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Sergei Eisenstein's Genius - Films by Eisenstein
« on: September 02, 2004, 04:44:52 AM »
Have u seen some of Sergei Eisenstein Film??
just like Battleship Potemkin, (about 1905 revolution )
First I watched was Iwan Terible- amazing & strange but i ve never seen the rest....

http://www.carleton.edu/curricular/MEDA/classes/media110/Severson/video.htm

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Re: Sergei Eisenstein's Genius - Films by Eisenstein
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2004, 10:53:03 PM »
Very few of Sergey Eisenstein's works appealed to me. However I did enjoy Ivan the Terrible the most. It may be of some interest to highlight that Part II of this film was banned by Stalin, because it contained political elements which showed not just a power struggle, but the Tsar's use of secret police. Ivan's own means of terror as depicted in this work very much resembled Stalin. This second part was never completed, nor was it shown to the Soviet audience until a few years after Stalin died. Stalin refused to give permission for Part III to be made.

One fascinating detail about this unique movie is that Eisenstein was provided with experimental color film from Germany, which he incorporated towards the end of the movie, which featured scenes of a banquet. The final scenes revert to B/W.

Another production - Alexander Nevsky is said to be made as an expression of Soviet propaganda, which carried a message direct to Hitler in 1939, highlighting the hazards of invading Soviet territory. The use of a frozen landscape in the battle scenes are direct inferences to the dangers the enemy (Teutonic knights in this case) faced when attacking their enemy. Prokofiev's musical score is quite haunting.

IMHO The Battleship Potemkin is pure revolutionary propaganda. This movie portrayed too many historic inaccuracies such as the famous massacre scene over the Odessa steps. Lenin endorsed this movie in 1925, which was made to commemorate the 20th Anniversary of the Potemkin Uprising. It provided visual 'proof' of how the enlisted sailors were justified in murdering the Tsarist Officer Command, on the pretext of the inadequacy of their rations which is depicted by the crawling maggot scene.

Eisenstein may have been considered as an innovative genius filmaker, however it was his use of this medium as a sponsored communistic propaganda tool which is the core to all his productions.
 

 


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Re: Sergei Eisenstein's Genius - Films by Eisenstein
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2004, 06:42:37 AM »
i used to enjoy eisenstein's films but i suppose it would be like leni reifenstahl's movies:  technically amazing but the use they were put to made them absolutely abhorrent.
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Re: Sergei Eisenstein's Genius - Films by Eisenstein
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2004, 09:10:52 AM »
Hey,

Last night I went with friends to watch a screening of Battleship Potemkin in Trafalgar Square, with a brand new score writen by the Pet Shop Boys for free.

It was absolutly fantastic!!, I think they should re release it with the new music, it really brings it all alive and is very emotional.  I am so glad that I went to see it, and I bet the few hundred or so, well it was packed, were too.

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Re: Sergei Eisenstein's Genius - Films by Eisenstein
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2004, 09:57:26 AM »
Re Propaganda at the Movies...


    Well to me (a very pink person ;)) Eisenstein was a genius pure and simple! While I could agree that there are certain similarities to Leni Reifenstal's work these are limited and too often overstated.
    To critique Eisenstein as political is to miss out on his technique and images which are as potent today as ever. DW Griffith's notorious  "Birth of a Nation" is far more political and a much poorer work. Yet at the time it was recognized as a brilliant film even by those who despised it's racism. Few today would be so charitable.
   Nevertheless I think that Eisenstein has stood the test of time. I wish he were alive today -- then films would still be powerful- not simply a chain of noisy explosions and computer generated effects!

thanks for letting me rant.
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Re: Sergei Eisenstein's Genius - Films by Eisenstein
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2005, 05:13:53 PM »
You can see montage of Eisenstein's "October" here:

http://www.tcf.ua.edu/Classes/Jbutler/T112/EditingIllustrations06.htm

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Re: Sergei Eisenstein's Genius - Films by Eisenstein
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2005, 10:58:32 AM »
I just saw this movie and I have some questions:
-is it the real Lenin in the film? The actor looks alike him very much(instead of Trotsky or even Kerenski)
-is there some archive footages (when there is a lot of people)?
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Re: Sergei Eisenstein's Genius - Films by Eisenstein
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2006, 06:08:28 PM »
Has anyone seen these DVDs. (3 part series)  and if so could you tell me if they are worth getting.  I have always been interested in Ivan the Terrible and have heard that these are available with English subtitles.  Anyone have any opinions good or bad?   Thanks.
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Re: Sergei Eisenstein's Genius - Films by Eisenstein
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2006, 03:27:47 AM »
Dear Joy

I can recommend the 2 DVD set version of Ivan The Terrible.

The film has been cleaned & repaired & is in much better condition than a version of the same film I copied from a television broadcast on to VHS Video years ago.

You will be pleased with them I am sure.

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Re: Sergei Eisenstein's Genius - Films by Eisenstein
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2006, 07:20:49 AM »
Thanks so much for the info, Beatrice. :)

Another item to add to my Amazon shopping cart.
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Re: Sergei Eisenstein's Genius - Films by Eisenstein
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2006, 09:40:52 AM »
I've heard about these films and wanted to get them as well. I too, will check it out and order from Amazon.com when I have a chance.

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Re: Sergei Eisenstein's Genius - Films by Eisenstein
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2007, 09:04:27 AM »
The restored version of Eisenstein's classic "Battleship Potemkin" is to be shown on Turner Classic Movies Channel at 12 am on Oct 21 per their schedule (which is actually the 22nd). Check your local listing to verify the time in your area. It is the version of the film that will be released on the two set DVD later this year.

http://www.tcm.com/thismonth/article.jsp?cid=180855&mainArticleId=180852








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Re: Sergei Eisenstein's Genius - Films by Eisenstein
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2007, 01:49:54 PM »


  Thanks for the heads up, R.  I've seen it on video and trust the restored version is better quality. I'll refrain from any comments until it's aired other than to say it's worth seeing , if only for its historical interest.
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