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lieutenant Rodionov
« on: June 03, 2006, 03:48:55 PM »
I am looking for more information about the Standart's lieutenant Rodionov, who was so close with the family and official cavaler of Tatiana Nikolaevna at officials dinners in the Crimea and at board of the Standart. Where and when was he born? Which carrier did he make? Did he stay faithfull to the family after the revolution? Where and when did he die?

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Re: lieutenant Rodionov
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2008, 05:59:41 PM »
I'm afraid I'm a little bit late to answer ) ; besides, at the moment I can't recall much of the scarce information I have about lieutenant Rodionov. Yet, I do know that he was one of five legitimate children of Nikolay Matveevich Rodionov, a short-term governor of Chernigov in abt. 1905. In spite of their Cossack background, three of his four sons graduated from the Sea Corps. Nikolay Nikolayevich had a kind of romance with T.N., and she presented him with a dog called "Ochen'" ("Very much"); and it was only by her father's decision not to spoil the young man's career that Rodionov was not transfered from the guard. According to comments to the Empress's letters, she mentioned that he was in Crimea after the revolution.
Later, he emigrated to Constantinople, and died 09/24/1962 in Paris.
Some distant relatives of Rodionov live in the U.S., yet I have no contacts with them.

The data from "Martifrolog Russkoy Voenno-Morskoy Emigratsii" (M.-Feodosia, 2001, p. 117) are as follows:
Rodionov Nikolaj Nikolaevich, kap. 2 r., MK (1905), 24.09.1962, Parizh, poh. na kl. SZhdB, 1962, n.99, s. 57.

Some other time I may try to check out his nephew's memoirs, and see, who of the Rodionov's brothers had children, or probably some other information.
On my part, I'd greatly appreciate any information that you may have on the subject.
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Re: lieutenant Rodionov
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 03:22:07 PM »
"Luche pozno, chem nikogda"!! Many thanks, T. P. Felis, for these wonderful informations about Rodionov, his destinity and relationship with Tatiana Nikolaevna. I never heard the story of the dog "Ochen", it is rather beautiful.
For other people, translation of the data: Rodionov, Nikolay Nikolaevitch, captan of 2d rang, See Corps 1905, dead the 24 sept 1962 in Paris, buried in Sainte-Genevieve-des-Bois in 1962 (and the place of the grave).
From witch book come your information? Did Rodionov ever maried?

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Re: lieutenant Rodionov
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2008, 03:43:26 PM »
From the russian internet:
"Высочайшим приказом по Морскому ведомству № 594 от 21 февраля 1905 года из Морского корпуса вышел во флот и был произведён по экзамену в мичманы 118 человек. " (By imperial order n 594 of the 21 of feb. 1905 came out from the See Corps to the Flot and after exam was made mitchman 118 people).
The number 65 is the gardemarine Rodionov Nikolay Nikolaevitch.

He was born in 1886. After the Revolution, he stayed faithful to the Imperial family and came to defend the Alexander Palace. His name appears in the diary of AF for 1917 at the date of the 1st of Marth (so at the beginning of the Revolution he came to Her Majesty).

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Re: lieutenant Rodionov
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2008, 10:15:30 PM »
Just out curiosity, what sparked your curiosity in N.N. Rodionov Matushka?

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Re: lieutenant Rodionov
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2008, 03:52:45 AM »
I have once  read that Rodionov was in love with Tatiana..

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Re: lieutenant Rodionov
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2008, 03:53:23 PM »
Rodionov, I asked about Nikolai Nikoalevitch only because he was a friend of the imperial family, appears in a lot of photographs. I just wanted to know more about him, his background, carrier and how did he deal with the revolution. It is interesting to replace people in their context, to have a more exact idea of them. I am also interested in the kind of relationship such friends of the last tsar and his family had with them, the degre of familiarity and distance, the kind of conversations and activities, the sincerity of the feelings (Sabline's story give us a lot to think about). Spiridovitch wrote about Rodionov, about the parties at bord of the Standart, Rodionov appears as the official cavaler of Tatiana Nikolaevna at such parties.
Are you a relative? Have you something interesting to share, perhaps photographs or letters? That would be priceless!
A well-known picture:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/tom_romanov/TN1913.jpg
There are also plenty of picture in the Standart, at the tennis court...
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Re: lieutenant Rodionov
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2008, 09:27:22 AM »
Matushka Thank you so much for making a topic... So he was inlove with Tatiana.... Interesting story... Does she got affairs to him?I mean does she liked him?

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Re: lieutenant Rodionov
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2009, 01:21:40 PM »
From a letter by Alexandra to Anna Vyrubova, quoted in Fall of the Romanovs:

9/22 January 1918
"I am afraid that you hare having horrible days -- the rumors also reach us about the officers' murder in Sev.[astopol]. I'm afraid for N.N. [Rodionov] -- he's there with his brother."
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Re: lieutenant Rodionov
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2009, 04:20:29 PM »
Is that mean he died there? Or..................
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2009, 05:55:44 PM »
No -- matushka posted earlier on this thread that Rodionov died on 24 September 1962 in Paris -- but in 1918 Alexandra had heard only rumors about violence in the Crimea and was anxious for news of him.
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Re: lieutenant Rodionov
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2009, 01:54:56 AM »
I see .... haha my mother was born 2 years later....
And so one last thing which i didn't understood.... How he died?
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2009, 09:07:39 AM »
We don't know. Though if you presume he was a bit older than Tatiana, he must have been around 80 years old when he died. Once you've hit that age range, cause of death can become rather incidental... ;)
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2009, 09:31:22 AM »
Yes it's always been interesting how the duchesses had affairs with little bit older men...
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2009, 10:00:19 AM »
I'd be cautious about calling these relationships "affairs." That has a sexual connotation which IMO doesn't fit in this more Platonic situation.
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