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Re: Duke Carl Theodor & Duchess Marie Jose (Infanta of Portugal) & family
« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2006, 05:44:39 AM »


Karl Theodor with family ( Ludoviika, daughter Sophie, d. Amélie, his second wife Marie José, son Ludvik, Gackel, Marie Gabriela, Elizabeth).

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Re: Duke Carl Theodor & Duchess Marie Jose (Infanta of Portugal) & family
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2006, 06:46:30 AM »

The author Jean Louis Schlim published in his new book about Crownprincess Antonia of Bavaria this photograph which was taken on Duchess Marie José's birthday. Schlim wrote family meeting at Schloss Tegernsee because of Duchess Marie José's 70th birthday on March 19th 1937 - of course, something's wrong here, because Marie José was born in 1857 which means that she was celebrating her 70th birthday in 1927. Or do you think it has already been her 80th birthday?

Anyway, I would really like to identify all the people on the picture. I put numbers on the pic, so it might be easier.

Thanks in advance.

01 ---
02 Maria Anna Grand Duchess of Luxemburg
03 Marie José Duchess in Bavaria
04 Antonia Crownprincess of Bavaria
05 Louise Princess of Bavaria
06 Margarethe Clémentine Fürstin von Thurn und Taxis
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08 Sophie Gräfin zu Toerring-Jettenbach
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12 Ludwig Wilhelm Duke in Bavaria (?)
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18 Rupprecht Crownprince of Bavaria
19 Albrecht Prince of Bavaria
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22 Albert Fürst von Thurn und Taxis
23 Otto von Habsburg (?)
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Re: Duke Carl Theodor & Duchess Marie Jose (Infanta of Portugal) & family
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2006, 01:15:20 PM »
Number 01 is Princess Elisabeth of Greece and Denmark, the wife of Marie José´s grandson Carl Theodor "Toto" zu Törring-Jettenbach.

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Re: Duke Carl Theodor & Duchess Marie Jose (Infanta of Portugal) & family
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2006, 01:38:37 PM »
Number 01 is Princess Elisabeth of Greece and Denmark, the wife of Marie José´s grandson Carl Theodor "Toto" zu Törring-Jettenbach.

Thanks. So I guess Toto must be on the pic, too.  ???
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Re: Duke Carl Theodor & Duchess Marie Jose (Infanta of Portugal) & family
« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2006, 02:55:24 PM »
Nr. 23 sieht aus wie Fürst Karl August von Thurn und Taxis mit Schnurbärtchen.

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« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2006, 05:50:25 AM »
The picture must have been taken in 1937 because
- in 1927 Elisabeth and Toto weren´t married so there would be no reason for her to be in this picture
- Antonia looks much older than she did in the 1920s

So it must have been Marie José´s 80th birthday which was celebrated.

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Re: Duke Carl Theodor & Duchess Marie Jose (Infanta of Portugal) & family
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2006, 12:01:25 PM »
Dear Marie-Charlotte

Can you please post the picture without the numbering ?
I had a smaller version, leaving out 7+22-23  :-\
Thanks in advance  :)
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Re: Duke Carl Theodor & Duchess Marie Jose (Infanta of Portugal) & family
« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2006, 03:28:14 PM »
Do you have a smaller version of this photograph or is your pic totally different from mine?
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Re: Duke Carl Theodor & Duchess Marie Jose (Infanta of Portugal) & family
« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2006, 01:43:04 PM »
It is a cut version of your photo.
Everybody in the same position, but 7,22 and 23 are out of the picture

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Re: Duke Carl Theodor & Duchess Marie Jose (Infanta of Portugal) & family
« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2007, 02:23:43 AM »
Seem to come out of a bigger photo ?  ???

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Re: Duke Carl Theodor & Duchess Marie Jose (Infanta of Portugal) & family
« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2007, 08:12:42 AM »
Seem to come out of a bigger photo ?  ???

Yes, it's a detail of a big family picture taken at Meran in about 1890. In the back you can see parts of Sophie Chotek and Archduchess Margarethe Sophie.
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Re: Duke Carl Theodor & Duchess Marie Jose (Infanta of Portugal) & family
« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2007, 08:54:56 PM »
Lovely photo...I wonder if it has been publishhed yet ?  ???

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« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2007, 02:58:34 AM »
Lovely photo...I wonder if it has been publishhed yet ?  ???

You can find it in Das Familienalbum von Kaiser Karl und Kaiserin Zita by Gabriele Praschl-Bichler. I'm quite surprised that you don't have that book, Eric.
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Re: Duke Carl Theodor & Duchess Marie Jose (Infanta of Portugal) & family
« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2007, 04:25:25 AM »
Yes...I have that book. Just haven't look at it recently la... :P