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Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2006, 07:56:44 AM »
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Another interesting fact, is that when she gave birth to Napoleon II the doctor siad that it was most likely to be the only child the couple would have, since the labor was difficult!!!
However she had three chldren form Neipperg!!!! :o

Albertine, Countess of Montenuovo (1817-1867, married Luigi, Count di Fontanellato) and Wilhelm Albrecht, Count of Montenuovo, later created Prince of Montenuovo (1819-1895, married Countess Juliana Batthyány von Némét-Ujvár). Marie-Louise and Neipperg also had a second daughter, Mathilde, Countess of Montenuovo, in 1822.

Albertine was born on May 1 1817
she married Luigi Count di Fontanellato in October 1833
they had 4 kids:

Albert born in 1834
Marie 1836
Stephan 1838
Luise ?

Whilhem born in 1819
he married Juliana Batthyány
and had three children:

Albertine  1854
Alfred 1854
Maria Sophia 1859



I have some more details:

Marie Louise's children by Adam Albrecht Neipperg:

1) Albertine Marie, Gräfin Montenuovo (Parma May 1st 1817 - Fontanellato near Parma December 26th 1867). She was buried in the church of San Giovanni Evangelista in Parma. Albertine married Ludwig (Luigi) Conte Sanvitale di Fontanellato (Parma November 7th 1799 - Parma January 3rd 1876) on October 26th 1833 - he was 34 and Albertine ony 16 years old! They had four children. The fourth child Luise died young, but I don't have other informations.

2) Wilhelm Albrecht, Graf von Montenuovo (Castle Sala grande near Parma August 8th 1821 - Wien / Oberdöbling April 6th 1895). He married Juliane Johanna Marie Gräfin von Batthýany (Vienna June 10th 1827 - Hietzing / Vienna November 19th 1871) on May 18th 1850 in Vienna. They had three children: Albertine (born June 30th 1853), Alfred Adam Wilhelm Johann Maria (born Sepetmber 16th 1854) and Maria Sophie (born September 10th 1869). The couple is buried in Deutsch-Boly in Hungary.

3) Mathilde, Gräfin von Montenuovo who was born in 1822 and died young. She is buried in the same church as her sister Albertine, San Giovanni Evangelista in Parma.

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Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2006, 08:13:15 AM »
marie Louise son was I believe the Chambellan of Court event, he would, revised the guest list in order to be sure that the guest would be pure aristocrats!!! Empress Sissi ued to dislike him, she used to say that he was probably so preocupied with "pure aristocratic blood" due to the fact that he was a born out of the wedlock!

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Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2006, 08:13:56 AM »
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Another interesting fact, is that when she gave birth to Napoleon II the doctor siad that it was most likely to be the only child the couple would have, since the labor was difficult!!!
However she had three chldren form Neipperg!!!! :o

Albertine, Countess of Montenuovo (1817-1867, married Luigi, Count di Fontanellato) and Wilhelm Albrecht, Count of Montenuovo, later created Prince of Montenuovo (1819-1895, married Countess Juliana Batthyány von Némét-Ujvár). Marie-Louise and Neipperg also had a second daughter, Mathilde, Countess of Montenuovo, in 1822.

Albertine was born on May 1 1817
she married Luigi Count di Fontanellato in October 1833
they had 4 kids:

Albert born in 1834
Marie 1836
Stephan 1838
Luise ?

Whilhem born in 1819
he married Juliana Batthyány
and had three children:

Albertine  1854
Alfred 1854
Maria Sophia 1859



I have some more details:

Marie Louise's children by Adam Albrecht Neipperg:

1) Albertine Marie, Gräfin Montenuovo (Parma May 1st 1817 - Fontanellato near Parma December 26th 1867). She was buried in the church of San Giovanni Evangelista in Parma. Albertine married Ludwig (Luigi) Conte Sanvitale di Fontanellato (Parma November 7th 1799 - Parma January 3rd 1876) on October 26th 1833 - he was 34 and Albertine ony 16 years old! They had four children. The fourth child Luise died young, but I don't have other informations.

2) Wilhelm Albrecht, Graf von Montenuovo (Castle Sala grande near Parma August 8th 1821 - Wien / Oberdöbling April 6th 1895). He married Juliane Johanna Marie Gräfin von Batthýany (Vienna June 10th 1827 - Hietzing / Vienna November 19th 1871) on May 18th 1850 in Vienna. They had three children: Albertine (born June 30th 1853), Alfred Adam Wilhelm Johann Maria (born Sepetmber 16th 1854) and Maria Sophie (born September 10th 1869). The couple is buried in Deutsch-Boly in Hungary.

3) Mathilde, Gräfin von Montenuovo who was born in 1822 and died young. She is buried in the same church as her sister Albertine, San Giovanni Evangelista in Parma.



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Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2006, 10:26:02 AM »
I found it interesting that Franz von Bayern descends from Marie Louise through his mother :)
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Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2007, 07:46:41 PM »
Let's strictly not judge the French empress Marie-Louise. Let's not reproach it with treachery Napoleon and dislike and indifference to their unique son. Let's recollect those times of its life. I think Marie-Louise had not the right to dispose of the private life. Absolutely other people solved her destiny. Let's think and there was a destiny of this Austrian princess if did not exist Napoleon. Perhaps, Narie-Louise after achievement of age of consent has married any European prince or the successor of any European throne. Perhaps, we shall never recollect it. And so in 1809 Marie-Louise has married for Napoleon at will of its father, wished to rescue the Austrian empire thus. When Napoleon has fallen in 1814, father Marie-Louise has counted itself free from any obligations to the French emperor and began to divide the inheritance which has remained after Napoleon together with winners of the French emperor. Certainly, it is a pity to me Napoleon II, but let's recollect, what was  destiny of Louis XVII. I think, him destiny is not less tragic destiny of the Eaglet.
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Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2007, 02:27:41 AM »
Another Napoleons gift to Marie Luise, beautiful "escritoire", made by goldsmith Martin-Guillaume Biennais, now in National Museum in Prague. See http://zpravy.idnes.cz/zajimavosti.asp?y=zajimavosti/kazeta.htm

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Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2007, 04:07:13 AM »
She was a very pretty Woman as was her Aunt Marie Antoinette! Imagine how hated as an Austrian poor Marie Antoinette was and now here is Marie Louise, an Austrian marrying the next occupant of the throne! I wonder if her Father gave her any advice as Marie Antoinette received advice from her Mother. 

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Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2007, 02:33:06 PM »
I think, she simply did what she had to do, marrying Napoleon, when her father wanted it, all because of political reasons, but then learned to love Napoleon. A pity that she later on went back to the fathers court (I mean after the fall of her husband) and never got any further interest in the fate of Napoleon, whereas Maria Walewka did indeed visit him on Elba...This lady was still so young and had such hard fate, did what her father said, but however...did not have to die like her distant aunt Maria Antonia. Had two more children by Neipperg etc. In comparison to some of her siblings, who had really a terrible Habsburg look (especially old emperor Ferdinand I) she was a beautiful woman, her daughter Albertine was so similar to her. I like most the Glauco Lombardi page, which shows wonderful pictures, even many made by Marie Louise. She much have been a very intelligent and talented woman. Her pictures are very nice and beautiful. Please have a look at that wonderful italian website!
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Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2008, 01:03:38 PM »
I would be interested to know where in Parma Empress Marie Louise married Count von Niepperg and Comte Bombelles. The Ducal Palace in Parma has confirmed that she died there, some books claim she died in Vienna. Was she born at Schonbrunn?

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Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2008, 03:04:49 PM »
Queen Hortense, (1783-1837) imagined  Marie Louise as a young lamb that was leaded to the altar and wrote: "She was me yet beloved and I waited for her as someone who maybe had to need me."

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Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2010, 01:50:46 PM »
Her wedding with Napoleon

With a formal dress

As a girl with her family

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Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2010, 01:59:19 PM »
Saying goodbye to her family

Her as an older lady

Her as the young Empress

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Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2010, 02:14:07 PM »
The Empress...


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Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2010, 07:50:02 AM »

I have some more details:

Marie Louise's children by Adam Albrecht Neipperg:

1) Albertine Marie, Gräfin Montenuovo (Parma May 1st 1817 - Fontanellato near Parma December 26th 1867). She was buried in the church of San Giovanni Evangelista in Parma. Albertine married Ludwig (Luigi) Conte Sanvitale di Fontanellato (Parma November 7th 1799 - Parma January 3rd 1876) on October 26th 1833 - he was 34 and Albertine ony 16 years old! They had four children. The fourth child Luise died young, but I don't have other informations.

Marie-Louise's daughter Albertine Marie did marry someone way older. Albertine Marie's father-in-law , Conte Stefano Sanvitale, served as grand chamberlain at Marie Louise's court in Parma and was also a courtier and a very good friend of Duke Ferdinand of Parma and his wife Archduchess Maria Amalia, and their son Louis, Marie Louise's relations. So there was very likely a strong and friendly connection hence, the marriage. Also, the Sanvitale family was one of the oldest and wealthier noble families in the area.  Both Luigi and his father Stefano were considered intelligent, well-traveled and generous/charitable men. Luigi served as the first mayor of Parma after the Italian unification.
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Re: L imperatrice Marie Louise
« Reply #44 on: July 18, 2010, 01:49:25 PM »
Posted in detail before, now the full verssion

With Napoleon