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Re: Toerring-Jettenbach
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2006, 03:33:49 PM »
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Thank you.  I wasn't sure.  I did recall in Queen Mary's photo albums she was listed as Countess Toerring.


Your welcome. "Countess Toerring" was for short.
and I don't think Queen Mary whould put down - Countess Törring-Jettenbach all the time, .............her hand would hurt. ::) ;) (joking of course!)

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Re: Toerring-Jettenbach
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2006, 09:47:38 AM »
I hardly believe her descendants think the her marrying Count Carl Theodor Törring-Jettenbach was a "loss," really...

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Re: Toerring-Jettenbach
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2006, 07:13:19 AM »
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Well, the Toerring-Jettenbachs are very rich - and the title is a mediatized count - so not merely a count.


Hans Veit, the father of "Toto" meme said "No" when the Prince Regent of Bavaria wanted to make him a Prince (Fürst) on his marriage to Duchess Sophie in Bavaria...He must have had self-confidence!

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Re: Toerring-Jettenbach
« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2006, 07:15:13 AM »
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Well, the Toerring-Jettenbachs are very rich - and the title is a mediatized count - so not merely a count.

Is the family still wealthy?


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Re: Toerring-Jettenbach
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2006, 03:10:18 PM »


Elizabeth's daughter Helen. A beauty like her mother! :) Pity Woolly never lived long ehough to see her daughter get married.  :-[



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Re: Toerring-Jettenbach
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2006, 10:00:39 AM »
Princess Elisabeth in 1938 :

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Re: Toerring-Jettenbach
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2006, 09:47:30 PM »
I think she looks still good to me in that photo. Prince Paul said she looked like a wreck after the war. The quote was "It is so depressing to see a lovely creature grow old prematurely"( Paul Of Yugoslavia pg. 301). I guess that was why no picture had taken of her after the war.  :(

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Re: Toerring-Jettenbach
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2006, 10:00:49 AM »
Maybe because she had started to get cancer, and was very ill, to get photographs done. Poor Principessa de bella (I think in Italian "Princess of Beauty") Which I call her.

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« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2006, 10:17:16 AM »
Yes...Bella indeed ! She was the princess that got ignored (compared to Olga and Marina). I would love to find out more about her.  ;)

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Re: Toerring-Jettenbach
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2006, 05:08:16 PM »
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Does anyone know where Elisabeth (and her husband) are buried????

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The Törring-Jettenbach family has a burial site on the grounds of Schloß Winhöring.  Princess Elisabeth and Count Karl Theodor are buried there.  The last to be brought interred there was Archduke Ferdinand of Autria, husband of the former Countess Helen zu Törring-Jettenbach.

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A woman called Angelika Rank from Seefeld told me that the Count was buried in the cemetery of Dünzelbach, because he refused to be buried in the crypt of Oberalting near Seefeld just like his parents Hans Veit and Sophie. Do you know something about that?
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Re: Toerring-Jettenbach
« Reply #40 on: May 05, 2006, 11:34:15 AM »
I got quite a few of the images. The one of Helen is taken at her marriage breakfast wearing the tiara her mother inheited from her maother , Grand Duchess helen of Russia. The last one wcelebrates the marriage of prince Alexander (elest son of Princess Olga) to Princess Maria Pia of Savoy.  :)

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Re: Toerring-Jettenbach
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2006, 09:50:33 PM »
Princess Elisabeth died quite young, wonder if there are any photos and information about her furneral  ?

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Re: Toerring-Jettenbach
« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2006, 10:11:53 AM »
Any Infos or Pics of the Family?

Especially about Hans Veit ( 1862-1929 ), his wife Sophie in Bavaria ( 1875-1957 ) and their children.


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Re: Toerring-Jettenbach
« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2006, 10:33:10 AM »
Hans Veit married Sophie Adelheid Ludovica Maria Duchess in Bavaria on July 26th 1898. Sophie's aunt Elisabeth of Austria said: "If Sophie marrys a count, she doesn't have to be afraid of assassinations."

The couple had three children: Carl Theodor (Toto, 1900-1967), Antonia (1902-1988) and Hans Heribert (1903-1977).

I really like Antonia's names:
Marie José - Marie José of Braganza, Sophie's mother
Antonia
Franziska - Franziska, Hans Veit's mother (Franziska, her sister Irene and her brother David Paumgarten were friends of Empress Elisabeth when they were children.)
Elisabeth - Elisabeth, Sophie's sister
Gabrielle - Marie Gabrielle, Sophie's sister
Gisela - Gisela Gräfin Hohental und Bergen, Hans Veit's elder sister
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Re: Toerring-Jettenbach
« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2006, 10:59:22 AM »
As one can see, this picture was taken on the same sitting as the one MarieCharlotte posted last, but here one also sees Grandma Marie José.