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Re: The Reuss family
« Reply #75 on: September 12, 2011, 07:22:24 AM »
Maybe they were just being serious. Marriage is suppose to be a serious business not a show for the cameras.

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Re: The Reuss family
« Reply #76 on: January 05, 2012, 09:17:03 PM »
Princess Ida Reuss,later Fürstin zu Stolberg-Rossla on the portrait behind:

http://www.kreis-anzeiger.de/fm/854/thumbnails/CON_10058997_5592_M.jpg.11242698.jpg
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Re: The Reuss family
« Reply #77 on: January 06, 2012, 02:17:59 PM »
The lady in the portrait was Ida ?

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« Reply #78 on: January 06, 2012, 06:47:53 PM »
Yes...

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« Reply #79 on: January 17, 2014, 09:05:45 AM »
Last night I saw an older (2008) episode of Antiques Roadshow UK, and there was a man on there who had a collection of memorabilia from Viktoria Margarete of Prussia.  His great-great aunt, I think, was her nanny.  There were some pictures and momentos, including a four-page handwritten inventory of Viktoria Margarete's jewelry.

I looked her up on Wikipedia and noticed she passed away at the young age of 33.  Does anyone know what happened?


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Re: The Reuss family
« Reply #80 on: January 17, 2014, 12:25:34 PM »

I looked her up on Wikipedia and noticed she passed away at the young age of 33.  Does anyone know what happened?



The only source on this I've ever found was a newspaper of 1923 year and there was a note she died after a fulminant decease.

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« Reply #81 on: January 17, 2014, 12:32:45 PM »
She was wed one week before Victoria Luise and EA were married. Kaiser Wilhelm gave her away in the ceremony, so WII had a busy week walking down the aisle with German princesses in May of 1913.
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Re: The Reuss family
« Reply #82 on: January 17, 2014, 04:58:58 PM »
Yes, I came across a wedding photo of hers years ago (before I knew much beyond QV's family) and it had been labelled Princess Margaret of Prussia and ID'd as the Kaiser's sister. Obviously, Margaret (Mossy) wed 20 years prior so I was like 'who is this?'. It was on a German website so they weren't too familiar with her either! I believe it was here on the Forum, where I posted the photo, that she was identified for me.
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« Reply #83 on: January 18, 2014, 07:51:44 AM »
Have I got it right that Viktoria Margarete was the daughter of Friedrich Leopold of Prussia and his wife (writer of anti-Wilhelm memoirs), and the Reuss she married was Heinrich XXXII? If I'm correct, her mother blamed the Kaiser for the marriage and had absolutely no time for Heinrich XXXII (even claiming that the XXXII made it difficult for the bride in signing the register!).

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« Reply #84 on: January 18, 2014, 08:17:17 AM »
Yes, that is she.

But her mother was Dona's sister.

The mother, Louise Sophie, was a fondness of WII and close to her sister. Were her unfavorable memoirs about WII more about his later life?
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Re: The Reuss family
« Reply #85 on: January 18, 2014, 08:45:42 AM »

The mother, Louise Sophie, was a fondness of WII and close to her sister. Were her unfavorable memoirs about WII more about his later life?

Her memoirs are just a song of hatred to Wilhelm II, I didn't see in her text any fondness of Kaiser and even his spouse, Louise Sophie's sister. She disliked her brother-in-law from the very beginning.

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« Reply #86 on: January 18, 2014, 09:17:20 AM »
Admittedly, there was quite a lot about Wilhelm that would be difficult to like (five minutes of his OTT bonhomie would  be quite enough for me), but apart from her husband and children she doesn't seem to have liked anybody much. She has a go at Viktoria Luise for no obvious reason (apart from her being Wilhelm's daughter), and at Eitel Friedrich and his wife for introducing Heinrich XXXII to her daughter. And so on. Quite a contrast to, say, Princess Marie Louise, who seems to have liked everybody she wrote about, and kept quiet about anybody that she didn't (she doesn't say much about her husband). Alice of Athlone is mildly caustic at times (she describes Boris Vladimirovich as 'very agreeable, but he drank too much'), but generally she writes of people in favourable terms.

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« Reply #87 on: February 17, 2015, 08:29:02 AM »
Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna the Elder's grandfather Prince Heinrich LXIII. Reuß zu Köstritz owned the Saxon estates of Klipphausen, Spreewiese / Leichnam / Lichań and Klix / Klukš, of which the last two villages both were Sorbian-speaking in the 19th century. His daughter Auguste, future Grand Duchess of Mecklenburg-Schwerin and mother of MP, was confirmated in Klix by the local pastor Karl Traugott Kanig (Korla Bohuwjer Konik), who was a Sorbian language activist. Her father, as patron of the parish, had nominated Kanig as local pastor instead of the congregation's own candidate, the deacon Andreas Seller, better known as the great Sorbian poet Handrij Zejler, who was a radical.

This according to Lebensbilder aus der Oberlausitz: 60 Biografien aus Bautzen, Bischofswerda und Umgebung by Frank and Uwe Fiedler. I suppose some or parts of the Sunday services (the sermon?) in Klix must have been in Sorbian, with the local clergy so active in Sorbian language activism. And of course the local princiary lord of the manor's family attended, including Auguste.

One can wonder how much Sorbian Grand Duchess Auguste had heard / knew and how much reminicences of her Slavic home she told her daughter, the future Russian grand duchess, during the 7 years of her daughter's life that she lived.
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Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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Re: The Reuss family
« Reply #88 on: February 17, 2015, 12:06:02 PM »
Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna the Elder's grandfather Prince Heinrich LXIII. Reuß zu Köstritz owned the Saxon estates of Klipphausen, Spreewiese / Leichnam / Lichań and Klix / Klukš, of which the last two villages both were Sorbian-speaking in the 19th century.

This lone Slavophone island in Germany was even more lonely and thus interesting before the world wars, because Slavic-speaking areas were further away than today, when you just have to drive 1 hour out of Berlin or Dresden to hear Polish or Czech. In those days, when, at least the western parts of both Pomerania, Neumark / Posen, Silesia and the Sudetenland were wholly Germanophone, Saxony and Brandenburg were not border regions like today, but the centre of (Greater) Germany. In those days the Sorbs represented one of the few opportunities for Germans in those areas to come into contact with Slavic speakers, in addition to Polish seasonal agricultural or immigrant industrial workers, e.g. Franciszka Szankowska.

It's fascinating to discover that the personal union between Saxony and Poland-Lithuania (wow, was that a triple personal union?) wasn't physically conterminous, because (Austrian, then Prussian, anyway German-speaking) Silesia lay between.
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Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)