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Re: Houses of Hesse - branches and titles
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2005, 09:29:10 AM »
Don Hesse married FLORIA Faber-Castell in 2003.  The European Royal History Journal had full coverage of this wedding since we sent a reporter and a photogrepher to cover the wedding for us.

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Re: Houses of Hesse - branches and titles
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2005, 05:56:00 PM »
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Yes, Moritz is the Landgrave.  His father, Philipp. was married to Pss Mafalda of Savoy.
You will find a lot about the family in my book, Queen Victoria's Descendants.  The family business which includes Schloss Kronberg (an exclusive hotel) is now in the hands of the eldest son, Donatus, who is married to Countess Flora of Faber-Castell.  Moritz is in his late 70s and divorced from Pss Tatiana zu Sayn-Wittengenstein who is the sister of Richard who is married to benedikte of denmark.



Isn't it Floria?

I've provided a link to my Web Site below, which has another link to "The Faber-Castell Story".

 http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/Hesse_Cassel_Royal_Family.htm#45.45312

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Re: Houses of Hesse - branches and titles
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2005, 06:08:48 PM »
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Don Hesse married FLORIA Faber-Castell in 2003.  The European Royal History Journal had full coverage of this wedding since we sent a reporter and a photogrepher to cover the wedding for us.

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Arturo,

Does Don Hesse have a sister named Mafalda(?spelling) who was profiled in the September 2003 Vanity Fair Young & Royal Issue.  

If I am not mistaken or mixing up my Royals, I believe I read she has several chikdren and several ex-husbands.

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Re: Houses of Hesse - branches and titles
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2005, 09:16:08 PM »
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Arturo,

Does Don Hesse have a sister named Mafalda(?spelling) who was profiled in the September 2003 Vanity Fair Young & Royal Issue.  

If I am not mistaken or mixing up my Royals, I believe I read she has several chikdren and several ex-husbands.

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Donatus (whose wife is Floria - typed too fast) has two sisters, Mafalda, and Elena.  Mafalda's first husband turned out to be gay, the second marriage did not last - and now she is married to Count Ferdinando Brachetti
Peretti.  Tatler did a nice profile on Mafalda a year or so ago as well (pictures taken by her younger brother.)  She has two daughters by her second husband and two sons by Ferdinando.   A rather nice and elegant woman.  Just a few weeks ago I got a nice Christmas card from her - with photos of the four kids all riding dolphins.
I had the pleasure of staying at Kronberg as Moritz's guest - and had a tour of the private rooms and got to wander around the place.

DOnatus and Floria's marriage was a real delight, and I was thrilled when Prince Moritz sent me an announcement before it was made public.
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Re: Houses of Hesse - branches and titles
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2005, 06:07:10 AM »
Thanks Marlene, Arturo and TampaBay for the info. So, effectively the only Hessian descendants (from the family of the Grand Duke Louis and Alice of Great Britain) are the Mountbattens?

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Re: Houses of Hesse - branches and titles
« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2005, 09:00:57 AM »
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Thanks Marlene, Arturo and TampaBay for the info. So, effectively the only Hessian descendants (from the family of the Grand Duke Louis and Alice of Great Britain) are the Mountbattens?



Yes, the male line for the Hesse and By Rhine family is extinct, except for the morganatic branch, ie the Milford Haven line.

In 1960, Ludwig adopted Moritz as his heir for inheritance purposes.
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« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2005, 09:22:16 AM »
Thank you for clarifying that Marlene. I´m looking forward to reading your book sometime soon!

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Re: Houses of Hesse - branches and titles
« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2005, 11:07:43 AM »
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Donatus (whose wife is Floria - typed too fast) has two sisters, Mafalda, and Elena.  Mafalda's first husband turned out to be gay, the second marriage did not last - and now she is married to Count Ferdinando Brachetti
Peretti.  Tatler did a nice profile on Mafalda a year or so ago as well (pictures taken by her younger brother.)  She has two daughters by her second husband and two sons by Ferdinando.   A rather nice and elegant woman.


Mafalda is a beautiful woman indeed.  I took nice photos of her at the wedding of her cousin the Prince of Venice in Rome in September 2003.

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Re: Houses of Hesse - branches and titles
« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2005, 11:10:53 AM »
Where does the current head of the house of Hesse reside?  Are any of the ancestral Hessian homes still in his possession?

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« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2005, 11:17:43 AM »
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Where does the current head of the house of Hesse reside?  Are any of the ancestral Hessian homes still in his possession?



They own a palace in Fulda, as well as Kronberg (now a hotel), but there is a smaller house on the estate, and they also own Wolfsgarten.
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Re: Houses of Hesse - branches and titles
« Reply #40 on: March 17, 2005, 01:28:54 PM »
Schloß Panker is their main residence.

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Re: Houses of Hesse - branches and titles
« Reply #41 on: March 17, 2005, 06:42:38 PM »
Is that royal German house even called the House of Hesse anymore? I thought it was destroyed in 1918 and was never restored?  ???
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Re: Houses of Hesse - branches and titles
« Reply #42 on: March 17, 2005, 09:31:06 PM »
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They own a palace in Fulda, as well as Kronberg (now a hotel), but there is a smaller house on the estate, and they also own Wolfsgarten.



Where is Wolfsgarten in relation to Darmsdat?

Is Wolfsgarten a palace, hunting lodge, forrest cottage or as we say in the USA beach/party shack?

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Is Elena married?  If so who did she marry?

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Re: Houses of Hesse - branches and titles
« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2005, 03:27:29 PM »
My name is Gary Hart. I live in Cape Town, South Africa.

Our earliest known forefather was a Stephen Hart who married the widow, Johanna Magdalena Brown (Born Barchfeld) on the 31st of January 1848, at St Paul's Church in Rondebosch, Cape Town.

She was the daughter of a Philip Andreas Barchfeld who married a Johanna Petronella Anhauser in 1795 in the Cape Colony.

Philip Andreas Barchfeld who was a soldier working for the Dutch East India Company at the time, was given permission in 1800 to remain in the Cape Colony. In the same year Johan Philip Anhauser also got permission to remain in the Cape Colony. Their obvious ties to the Military drawing their two families together earlier in the 1795 marriage.

The only other reference I can find to Barchfelds in the South African archives is that of a Jacob Barchfeld arriving in 1747 from Hesse Kassel, Duitsland.

No connection it seems exists between Philip Andreas Barchfeld and Jacob Barchfeld that I have found so far.
Jacob it seems was one generation ahead of Phillip.

My interest in Genealogy brought me to this forum.  
Our family was always under the impression we were English with a surname like Hart, but with my Great Great Grandmother being a Barchfeld, my Great Grandmother being a Kramer and my mother being a Haupt, it seems we are more German than English.

The Spelling of Barchfeld in South Africa.
Up until 1795, The Cape Colony was under the control of the VOC (Dutch East India Company). In 1795 the British took control of the Colony. Later in 1803, the British gave the Colony back to the Dutch. But in 1806 the British reoccupied the Colony and kept control up until 1910, when South Africa became a Union. Later in 1961, South Africa became the Republic of South Africa.
The problem here is the Barchfeld name, with obvious German/Prussian Origins, were working for the Dutch up until 1795. The Philip Andreas Barchfeld in question was given permission to remain in the Colony in 1800, while under English Rule. But at this stage, the clerks were still mostly Dutch it seems.
In 1795 the name is given as Barchfeld.
At 1800, the name is given as Bargveld or even Bergveld. Towards 1820 and later the name is given as Barchfield. By this stage the British having full control of the Cape Colony.
South Africa's rich and diverse history bearing influence on to the spelling of the name.
A published book, by Hesse, gives the name as Barchfeld.
One wonders what was the original spelling of the name, "Barchfeld".

A online listing for Barchfeld under the heading, "Names of German Immigrants 1652-1806"
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/7589/Names/PersonaliaA-F.html

ANHÄUSER / ANHUYSER, Johann Philipp, Kreuznach, 1775 (See also Cape Directory 1800, by Eric Rosenthal at The South African Library, says he came from Keurpalts)
BARCHFELD / BERGFELD, Jacob, Hessen-Kassel, 1747
BARCHFELD, Philipp Andreas, Kassel, 1795

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