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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #690 on: October 05, 2010, 10:14:24 AM »
Wow! Reminds me of a mini wax museum.
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« Reply #691 on: October 05, 2010, 10:35:06 AM »
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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #692 on: October 05, 2010, 06:00:14 PM »
I did some research and found out that Tsar Ivan VI of Russia lived to be 23 (Olga's age) and died on the 16 July. Also the the youngest son of Wilhelm II committed suicide almost exactly 11 years after the romanovs death 18 July 1929.

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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #693 on: October 09, 2010, 01:20:10 PM »
In the Lord of the Rings Pippin Took asked Gandalf if the Steward of Gondor was the king? Gandalf replied that in some countries the steward might eventually become king, but not in Gondor, even if 100 generations might pass. The line of kings in Gondor was immeasurably sacred.

Lol, I wonder if the arch-Catholic Tolkien had the arch-Protestant Dutch monarchy in mind: Guess what the Stewards of Gondor are called in the Dutch version? Stadhouders!

(Also very interesting that the German version goes all archaïc and calls them Truchsess. The term used in the French version, intendant, seems wrong to me: The point about the Stewardship was that it was hereditary, whereas intendant was one of the few titles that was not hereditary in ancien-régime France. Sénéchal would probably be more fitting.

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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #694 on: October 09, 2010, 02:00:05 PM »
I did some research and found out that Tsar Ivan VI of Russia lived to be 23 (Olga's age) and died on the 16 July. Also the the youngest son of Wilhelm II committed suicide almost exactly 11 years after the romanovs death 18 July 1929.

Olga was 22 when she died. Her birthday was in November, so some people get it mixed up. What I do is just pretend she was born in 1896 unless I want to know how old she was at Christmas.

That's a wierd conicidence, by the way! I should know this, but...when did Tsar Ivan VI of Russia live?
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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #696 on: October 10, 2010, 10:16:12 PM »
I did some research and found out that Tsar Ivan VI of Russia lived to be 23 (Olga's age) and died on the 16 July. Also the the youngest son of Wilhelm II committed suicide almost exactly 11 years after the romanovs death 18 July 1929.

Olga was 22 when she died. Her birthday was in November, so some people get it mixed up. What I do is just pretend she was born in 1896 unless I want to know how old she was at Christmas.

That's a wierd conicidence, by the way! I should know this, but...when did Tsar Ivan VI of Russia live?

He reigned from 28 October 1740 - 6 December 1741, and lived from 23 August 1740-16 July 1764

Thanks for pointing that out!! I had always thought that she lived to be 23.

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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #697 on: October 12, 2010, 06:48:43 PM »
I am shocked by the fact that no-one uses красный гриф(он), Krasniy Grif(on) or Red Griffin as their username, considering it is the main charge in the Romanov family arms!

BTW - OMG - do you know what the arms of Kashubia - home region of Franziska Schanzkowska, are? A griffin! Suremly that must hold enormous significance for her superstitious supporters... (BTW according to legend, the first Romanovs came from neighbouring Prussia, hence perhaps the typically Baltic-Pomeranian griffin in their arms.)
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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #698 on: October 12, 2010, 07:15:15 PM »
Re  Reply #699:  As we have discussed before, the subject of heraldry is rather "foreign" to most people. Examples:   A crest is often referred to as a "coat of arms."  Additionally, who would readily know location of the "dexter" side of a shield's depiction, or even care about such?  (As for "bicephalous eagle", as you know, there are many representations of such, other than the Russian Imperial State Arms.)   Regards,  AP.
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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #699 on: October 12, 2010, 07:28:08 PM »
Re  Reply #697:  I feel certain that many, many people mistakenly believe the Great Imperial Stete Arms to be the FAMILY "Romanov' 's arms.  Regards,  AP.

Indeed, and who can blame them. It wasn't untill the 1850s that Alexander II, just like any pretentious bourgeois gentilhomme, ordered his Master Herold to design the Romanov arms, which he duly did, based on a 17th century banner of the first Romanov Tsar's cousin Nikita Ivanovich Romanov!

But I also find it odd that the username Двуглавый орёл, Dvuglavniy orel, Bicephalous Eagle hasn't been used!

And why no Ледяная Коронa, Ledyanaya Korona, Ice Crown, which is the image the Great Imperial Crown always has evoked in a северянин, severyanin, Northerner like me.
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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #700 on: October 12, 2010, 07:51:51 PM »
Re Reply # 699:  As we have previously commented, the subject of heraldry is rather "foreign" to most people.  Examples:  Who can correctly locate the "dexter" side of a shield (follow closely by most peoples' reaction of "Who cares?") ?  Also how many times have we seen the "crest proper" referred to as a "coat of arms"?  As to the bicephalous eagle, I am most certain that you know (being the heraldry admirer that you are!) that it has been used in a large number of armorial depictions, in addition to Imperial (as well as modern, though THAT eagle is golden) Russia.
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« Reply #701 on: October 12, 2010, 07:59:58 PM »
Re Reply # 699:  As we have previously commented, the subject of heraldry is rather "foreign" to most people.
Indeed. I recently saw some Scandinavian heraldists bemoan how even the Royal Court of Sweden has no interest in heraldry, because they don't show the arms of the various members of the RF on their all-highest home page.

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Examples:  Who can correctly locate the "dexter" side of a shield (follow closely by most peoples' reaction of "Who cares?")?
Indeed. With that in mind I replied a little langued-gules-in-cheek in this point of mine in a thread about Romanov wedding rings.

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As to the bicephalous eagle, I am most certain that you know that it has been used in a large number of armorial depictions, in addition to Imperial (as well as modern!) Russia.
If it didn't stop the competing emperors, why should it stop us! :-)
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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #702 on: October 28, 2010, 04:59:45 PM »
A Tatiana Billion Dollar that I made. :)

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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #703 on: October 28, 2010, 11:15:33 PM »
You did a good job! Looks like legal tender to me! lol!

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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #704 on: October 28, 2010, 11:22:00 PM »
lol! Thanks BlessOTMA!!!