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Re: King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson (Duke and Duchess of Windsor)
« Reply #330 on: December 16, 2006, 04:18:46 PM »
They were "highly placed" non-royals though -- Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon and Lady Alice Montagu-Douglas-Scott were not simply girls off the street.  They were "well bred" titled young British ladies.  Wallis was twice-divorced "with two husbands living" and was a rather brash American lady who either had no idea, or chose to ignore, protocols surrounding the royal family.

In the last photo Cunarder has posted, for the first time I can see a resemblance between the Duke and his father King George V -- something about the eyes.  :o 
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Re: King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson (Duke and Duchess of Windsor)
« Reply #331 on: December 16, 2006, 06:18:27 PM »
I don't think anyone questions the divorced part.

I've read that Marina refered to Alice & Elizabeth as those "common scot girls", so to some they were'nt that highly placed.
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Re: King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson (Duke and Duchess of Windsor)
« Reply #332 on: December 16, 2006, 07:04:45 PM »
Well, they probably were 'common' to someone whose mother was an Imperial Highness. They were still many steps up the ladder from Wallis though--the daughter of a Duke (Buccleuch) and an Earl (Strathmore).

Here's a photograph of the couple by the famed photographer Philippe Halsmann. He had a tradition of getting subjects to jump for him--they were later compiled into the Jump Book. Of all the men who jumped for Mr. Halsman, the Duke was the only male to remove his shoes.

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Re: King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson (Duke and Duchess of Windsor)
« Reply #333 on: December 16, 2006, 07:44:15 PM »
Here’s a link to the cover of Time in 1937 for

Wallis Warfield Simpson, Woman of the Year
http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19370104,00.html

and the link to the article.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,762329,00.html

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Re: King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson (Duke and Duchess of Windsor)
« Reply #334 on: December 17, 2006, 05:53:51 AM »
The Prime Minister provoked the entire crisis, which otherwise might never have arisen as a crisis, by making publicly in the House of Commons the first official statement that King Edward was actually resolved to marry Mrs. Simpson (TIME, Dec. 14). This fact had been ascertained as a "scoop" personally by William Randolph Hearst, but had it not been made official. Edward VIII might simply have done nothing until after he was crowned May 12, and then (Mrs. Simpson having meanwhile obtained her absolute divorce on April 27), His Majesty had only to marry her and she would have been Queen.

I think the highlighted quote above from 1937 Time Magazine Woman of the Year Story backs up the point I have made along; The D & D of Windsor were not that smart.

OR

Edward did not want to be KING.

I sticky by my hypothesis; The D & D of Windsor were not that smart.

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Re: King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson (Duke and Duchess of Windsor)
« Reply #335 on: December 17, 2006, 08:15:25 AM »
Well, even if Edward had waited till after his coronation, he would still have had to announce his intention to marry to his Cabinet, wouldn't he? And even if Wallis was divorced from Ernest Simpson by then it wouldn't have made much difference - it would still have provoked a constitutional crises. I certainly agree with you though, TB - they weren't smart at all.

And Grace, I see what you mean - I can see the resemblance too!  :o
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« Reply #336 on: December 17, 2006, 04:23:51 PM »
So who are the smart English Royals of the 20th Century?  My vote goes to King Edward VII and Queen Elizabeth II then King George V in that order.  Queen Victoria was barely into that century and I think too emotional to be smart.  But what do I know?  I live in the US.  Queen Elizabeth is the only British Monarch alive in my lifetime.

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Re: King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson (Duke and Duchess of Windsor)
« Reply #337 on: December 17, 2006, 04:28:04 PM »
Depends on your definition of smart - intelligent, or 'savvy'?
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Re: King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson (Duke and Duchess of Windsor)
« Reply #338 on: December 17, 2006, 05:49:28 PM »
Edward VII had more intelligence than he was ever given credit for during his life time.

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« Reply #339 on: December 17, 2006, 06:15:14 PM »
Maybe a combination of intelligence and savy both!

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Re: King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson (Duke and Duchess of Windsor)
« Reply #340 on: December 17, 2006, 06:15:45 PM »
Well, even if Edward had waited till after his coronation, he would still have had to announce his intention to marry to his Cabinet, wouldn't he? And even if Wallis was divorced from Ernest Simpson by then it wouldn't have made much difference - it would still have provoked a constitutional crises. I certainly agree with you though, TB - they weren't smart at all.

And Grace, I see what you mean - I can see the resemblance too!  :o

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Re: King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson (Duke and Duchess of Windsor)
« Reply #341 on: December 17, 2006, 06:25:13 PM »


Wallis visits David's grave at Frogmore in 1973, with Mountbatten and the Duke of Kent.

I thought there was only a mausoleum at Frogmore, but are there other burial plots like David's (and now Wallis') as well?

Does anyone have a photo of either or both inscriptions?   I would love to be able to see them.  Thanks.  :)

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Re: King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson (Duke and Duchess of Windsor)
« Reply #342 on: December 17, 2006, 07:29:55 PM »
Edward VII had more intelligence than he was ever given credit for during his life time.

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Perhaps there was a reason for that ? The man was a bimbo, Wallis had the only smarts in that family.
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Re: King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson (Duke and Duchess of Windsor)
« Reply #343 on: December 17, 2006, 07:44:41 PM »
Sir Robert, Lord Hall

I was refering to Edward VII husband of Queen Aleandra not Edward VIII Duke of Windsor husband of Wallis!

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Re: King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson (Duke and Duchess of Windsor)
« Reply #344 on: December 17, 2006, 07:59:04 PM »
Oh dearie me, I am so sorry. The topic of this thread led me astray into sloppy reading.
 Of course EVII was pretty sharp cookie, if a sodden philanderer of the highest degree.
Yet, my assessment of the Windsor pair remains, pond scum of the gene pool.
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