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Re: Tsaritsa Praskovia Fyodorovna Saltykova
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2007, 05:41:02 PM »
Praskovia-younger (1694-1731), married secretly in 1723 (after her mother's death) Ivan Dmitriev-Mamonov (1680-1730).


I am enjoying reading about all of this. I have a question, why was the marriage in secret?
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Well, Dmitriev-Mamonov was not considered an equal for Praskovia. After all she was a niece of the powerful Emperor Peter I and a possible spouse-to-be for a German Prince. Russian Tsarevnas did not marry officially common people those times.

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Re: Tsaritsa Praskovia Fyodorovna Saltykova
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2008, 04:23:52 PM »
I've read that Praskovia loved her eldest daughter Ekaterina to bits, but never liked her second daughter, Anna.  Apparently when Peter the Great decided that one of his nieces would be the first Romanov Princess to marry a non Russian (as the bride of the Duke of Courland) Ekaterina would have been the obvious choice as she was the eldest sister.  However Praskovia couldn't bear the thought of losing her beloved child and insisted that Anna marry the Duke instead.

I don't know anything about Praskovia's relationship with her youngest daughter.  She does seem to be a very shadowy figure, completely outshone by her two elder sisters.

Though I think that the widowed Anna was bored and restless in dreary Courland she was at the same time relieved to be away from her mother's constant nagging and troublemaking.

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Re: Tsaritsa Praskovia Fyodorovna Saltykova
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2008, 12:32:11 AM »
I've read that Praskovia loved her eldest daughter Ekaterina to bits, but never liked her second daughter, Anna.  Apparently when Peter the Great decided that one of his nieces would be the first Romanov Princess to marry a non Russian (as the bride of the Duke of Courland) Ekaterina would have been the obvious choice as she was the eldest sister.  However Praskovia couldn't bear the thought of losing her beloved child and insisted that Anna marry the Duke instead.


That's right. According to contemporaries,Ekaterina was a fave of her mother among the sisters.

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Re: Tsaritsa Praskovia Fyodorovna Saltykova
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2008, 03:24:41 AM »
Praskovia Fyodorovna



Ekaterina Ivanovna



Praskovia Ivanovna


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Re: Tsaritsa Praskovia Fyodorovna Saltykova
« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2008, 04:26:23 PM »
Great to see those images...it's very hard to find them...

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Re: Tsaritsa Praskovia Fyodorovna Saltykova
« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2009, 03:20:48 PM »

Tsar Ioann (Ivan)


His wife Praskovya Fyodorovna

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Re: Tsaritsa Praskovia Fyodorovna Saltykova
« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2009, 03:26:26 PM »


Ekaterina Ivanovna, daughter of tsar Ivan V.


Praskovya Ivanovna, another daughter of Ivan V.
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Re: Tsaritsa Praskovia Fyodorovna Saltykova
« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2009, 03:36:04 PM »


Empress Anna Ivanovna


Anna Leopoldovna


Anna Leopoldovna and her son Emperor Ivan VI.
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Re: Tsaritsa Praskovia Fyodorovna Saltykova
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2009, 07:43:40 AM »
Tsar Ivan Alexeyevich



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Ivan V's Offspring.
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2013, 12:39:31 AM »
I am trying to construct a Romanov Family tree from the first Romanov Tsar right through to todays generation listing as many descendants as possible. I am stuck with three of Ivan V's daughters and was hoping to get some help with the following:
#Tsarevna Maria Ivanovna: when was she born and when did she die? Did she get married and to whom? What was his name, when was he born and when did he die? Did they have any children?
#Tsarevna Feodosia Ivanovna: when was she born and when did she die? Did she get married and to whom? What was his name, when was he born and when did he die? Did they have any children?
#Tsarevna Praskovia Ivanovna: was born in 1694 and died in 1731. She was married to Ivan Dmitriev-Mamonov  who interestingly was of Rurikid descent. He was born in 1680 and died in 1730. Did they have any children?
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Re: Ivan V's Offspring.
« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2013, 07:30:35 AM »
I am trying to construct a Romanov Family tree from the first Romanov Tsar right through to todays generation listing as many descendants as possible. I am stuck with three of Ivan V's daughters and was hoping to get some help with the following:
#Tsarevna Maria Ivanovna: when was she born and when did she die?..............

The Russian Wikipedia has the answers: Википедия: Иван V: Семья
« Last Edit: October 21, 2013, 07:32:19 AM by Превед »
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Re: Tzar Ivan V and his family
« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2013, 05:30:46 PM »
Thankyou Превед. Its probably staring right at me, is there way to accuratly translate that page into English?
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Re: Tzar Ivan V and his family
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2013, 05:32:25 PM »
Thankyou Превед. Its probably staring right at me, is there way to accuratly translate that page into English?

Google Translate can translate both excepts and whole pages. (Just copy the url into Google Translate.)
« Last Edit: October 21, 2013, 05:37:07 PM by Превед »
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Re: Tzar Ivan V and his family
« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2013, 06:11:32 PM »
WOW, I really cant thank you enough, I had no idea. Cheers. My names Blake, if I can ever return the favour don't hesitate to ask.
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Re: Tzar Ivan V and his family
« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2013, 06:26:25 PM »
OK, ive read a few sources and have found conflicting results. Some sources say Tsarevna Praskovia Ivanovna had a son and others say she didn't. Anyone know the truth?
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