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Re: possible wives for Prince Georgy
« Reply #75 on: March 14, 2006, 04:28:29 PM »
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I prefer Altinaï as that royal house is heading in the direction of extinction.

If Maria is looking for a girl with money, however, and she doesn't mind her son marrying a German, then she could consider HSH Princess Elisabeth von Thurn und Taxis (b. 1982?). I mean her brother's a billionare, surely she'd bring a large dowry, that is if they still do that kind of thing.


HSH Princess Elisabeth Margarete Maria Anna Beatriz von Thurn und Taxis born at Regensburg, Germany on  24 March 1982 would be an excellent choice.

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Re: possible wives for Prince Georgy
« Reply #76 on: March 30, 2006, 05:30:28 AM »
I doubt this German princess would change her religion.  She is Roman Catholic and George must marry an Orthodox princess.

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« Reply #77 on: March 31, 2006, 09:06:54 AM »
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I doubt this German princess would change her religion.  She is Roman Catholic and George must marry an Orthodox princess.

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Especially as her mother is a devoted catholic and close to the Pope...
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« Reply #78 on: May 16, 2006, 07:16:41 PM »
And if he marries the daughter of a super super rich Russian oligarch ??

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« Reply #79 on: May 17, 2006, 03:24:59 PM »
Then the Imperial House will essentially be through. Because marriage to someone not of royal descent and not a member of a dynasty would be considered unequal.

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Re: possible wives for Prince Georgy
« Reply #80 on: August 19, 2006, 10:51:28 AM »
Perdon me for bringing this up, and believe me, it's not scandal-mongering, but has Georgy been linked with any female to date?  He's in his early twenties and surely must have formed some attachments.

There aren't a lot of "eligible" (meaning Orthodox, equal-house, child-bearing age) females about that have enough money to support Georgy in the style that his half-aunt's inheritance has accustomed him to having, and to which his mother's pretensions compel him.

To whom has he been linked?  The only photos I've seen him with women are the typical Euro-trash "all the fun people play together" where he's gyrating away with a cluster of sweaty men and scantily-clad women.  Hope he's not with either of those groups.  But I haven't seen much either way.

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« Reply #81 on: August 19, 2006, 12:22:46 PM »
Georgiy is still rather young and his selection of a marital partner is of more import than it is for the rest of us. It is my understanding that he is a healthy young man. His partner must have appropriate royal pedigree and be willing to marry him. I also think she needs to have considerable assets of money and property.

I wish him well, and agree with David a T& T princess would make an excellent choice.

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Re: possible wives for Prince Georgy
« Reply #82 on: June 20, 2009, 06:56:20 AM »
why not a femail direct decent from the house of rurik either from the house of obolensky like  xenia obolensky b 1985 or Pss Anna, *Moscow 11.7.1984
or  Pss Elisaveta, *Moscow 8.3.1986 from the house of trubetskoy both of these houses are decended from the house or rurik
the first rulling family from russia

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« Reply #83 on: June 20, 2009, 07:02:33 AM »
or even from the house of galitzine Pss Xenia, *Summit 23.5.1983
 Pss Tatiana, *Santa Clara 16.8.1984
Pss Alexandra, *San Jose 7.8.1986
 Pss Maria, *Luxembourg 11.5.1988
this is the list of decent for the house of galitzine from the frist prince of russia

Rurik, konung of Novgorod and Ladoga (862-879), +879 (for his identity see NOTE); m.Efanda/Sfandra/Ingrid of Norway, sister of Helgu/Oleg (+912), konung of Novgorod and Kiev; They had issue:
A1. Ingvar/Igor "the Old", konung of Novgorod and Kiev (912-945/6), *877, +killed nr Iskorosten 945/946; m.St.Helga/Olga of Pskov (*ca 903 +969), regent in Kiev (945-964)), she was baptised in Constantinople and received the name Elena
B1. Svyatoslav I, konung of Novgorod and Kiev (945/6-972), *ca 942, +killed by Pechenegs 972; 1m: Predslava (a Bohemian woman); 2m: Malusha (*ca 944 +1002), a household servant of his mother
C1. [1m.] Yaropolk I, Pr of Kiev (972-980), *961, +murdered in Kiev 980; m.NN, a Greek nun
D1. Svyatopolk I "the Accursed", Pr of Turov, Great Pr of Kiev (1015)+(1017-19), *980, +on the way to Poland, after the battle on Alta River 1019; m.ca 1013 N, dau.of Boleslav I of Poland
C2. [1m.] Oleg, Pr of Iskorosten (972-977), +k.a.977
C3. [2m.] Saint Vladimir I "Velikiy" "the Great", Pr of Novgorod (972-980), Great Pr of Kiev (980-1015), *ca 958, +Berestovo 15.7.1015; 1m: in Scandinavia btw 977-980 Olava (Eiriksdottir?) of Sweden; 2m: ca 977 (div 986, from 989 a nun) Rogneda/Ragnheid Ragnvaldsdottir of Norway (*ca 956 +1002 as a nun), dau.of Pr Rogvolod of Polotzk; 3m: Malfrida N (+1002) a Bohemian woman; 4m: Adela N, Bulgarian woman; 5m: Crimea 988 Anna Porphyrogeneta of Byzantium (*13.3.963, +1011); 6m: 1012 N (+1019), dau.of Duke Konrad I of Swabia by Rechlind of Germany
D1. [1m./4m.] Vysheslav, Pr of Novgorod (988-1010), +1010
D2. [2m.] Izyaslav, Pr of Polotzk (988-1001), *980/981, +1001; for his descendants see HERE
D3. [2m.] Vsevolod, Pr of Vladimir-Volynsk (988-995), +ca 995
D4. [2m.] Yaroslav I "Mudriy" "the Wise", Pr of Rostov (988-1010), Pr of Novgorod (1013-15), Great Pr of Kiev (1015-17)+(1019-54), *ca 986, +20.2.1054, bur St.Sophia Cathedral; 1m: Saint Anna (+1018, bur St.Sophia Cathedral); m.1019 Pss Ingigerd Olafsdottir of Sweden (+10.2.1050, bur St.Sophia Cathedral)
E1. [1m.] Iliya, Pr of Novgorod (1015-20), +1020
E2. [2m.] Vladimir II, Pr of Novgorod (1036-52), founder of St.Sophia Cathedral, Novgorod, *ca 1020, +4.10.1052, bur St.Sophia Cathedral, Novgorod; for his descendants see HERE
E3. [2m.] Izyaslav I, Pr of Turov, Pr of Novgorod (1052-54), Great Pr of Kiev (1054-68)+(1069-73)+(1077-78), *ca 1024, +k.a.Nezhatinaia Niva 3.10.1078, bur St.Sophia Cathedral, Kiev; m.1043 Gertrud of Poland (*ca 1020 +4.1.1107); for his descendants
Izyaslav, inherited Polotsk from his mother - Pr of Polotzk (988-1001), *ca 980, +1001; He had issue:
A1. Vseslav, Pr of Polotzk (1001-03), +1003
A2. Bryachislav, Pr of Polotzk (1003-44), Pr of Vitebsk (1021-44), *ca 997, +1044; m.N ("a witch")
B1. Vseslav "the Sorcerer", Pr of Polotsk (1044-69)+(1071-1101), Gr Pr of Kiev (IX.1068-IV.1069), *ca 1030, +14.4.1101, bur St.Sophia Cathedral, Polotsk
C1. Roman, Pr of Polotzk (1101-16), +1116
C2. Gleb, 1st Pr of Minsk (1101-19), Pr of Polotsk (1116-19), +in prison Kiev 1119; m.1090 Anastasia of Turov and Lutsk (*1074, +I.1158)
D1. Izyaslav, +1134
D2. Rostislav, Pr of Polotsk (1151-59), Pr of Minsk (1146-51)+(1159-1165); m.Sofia of Turov and Lutsk (*1111 +1158)
E1. Gleb, Pr of Drutsk (1151-58)
E2. Svyatoslav, +1196
F1. Rostislav, +1196
D3. Volodar, Pr of Minsk (1151-58)+(1165-67), Pr of Hrodno (1159-65); m.btw 1136-39 Richeza of Poland (+after 25.12.1155)
E1. Vladimir, Pr of Minsk, fl 1182
E2. Vasilko, Pr of Logoysk, fl 1196
E3. Sofia, *ca 1141, +5.5.1198, bur Roskilde; 1m: 1157 King Waldemar I of Denmark (*14.1.1131, +Vordingborg 12.5.1182); 2m: 1184 (div 1187) Ldgf Ludwig III of Thuringia (+16.10.1190)
D4. Vsevolod, Pr of Izyaslavl and Strejev, fl 1159
C3. Boris, Pr of Polotsk (1119-27), Pr of Drutsk (1101-19), +1127/28
D1. Rogvolod II, Pr of Polotsk (1144-51)+(1158-61), Pr of Drutsk (1140-46)+(1161-71), +nr Orsha 7.5.1171; m.1143/44 N of Kiev
E1. Vseslav, fl 1160
E2. Gleb, Pr of Drutsk (1146-51)+(1163-), +after 1180
F1. Boris, Pr of Drutsk, +1196
E3. Praxedis, +1243; m.Yaroslav Vladimirovich of Pskov (+1245)
D2. Bryachislav, Pr of Logoysk
D3. Zvenislava, took monastic vows as Eupraxia and went to Palestine in 1171
C4. Rogvolod, Pr of Polotsk (1127-28), +1128
Rostislav, ancestor of Dukes of Lithuania, fl 1129 (went to Constantinople); he had issue:
A1. David, Pr of Vilensk
B1. Vitenas Volk, fl 1270
C1. [parentage uncertain; he could be a distant relative of Mindaugas, as well as representative of a rival princely family] Traidenis (Troiden), Great Duke of Lithuania (1269-81/82), fl 1281
D1. Gaudimante (Gaudemunda), baptized as Sophie, +1288; m.1279 Boleslaw II, Pr of Plock and Masovia (+1302)
D2. [parentage uncertain; possibly Skalmantas or Skolmantas (not mentioned in any contemporary sources but established in genealogical tradition)] Butigeidis, Great Duke of Lithuania (1285(?)-ca 1291), +1290/92
D3. [parentage uncertain; possibly Skalmantas or Skolmantas (not mentioned in any contemporary sources but established in genealogical tradition)] Butvydas (Butivydas/Putavyras/Pukaveras), Great Duke of Lithuania (ca 1291-ca 1295), +ca 1295; m.NN
G?yminas, Great Duke of Lithuania (1316-41), *ca 1260, +k.a.1341 (one of the first victims of shooting gun in Europe!); 1m: Wida, dau.of Widmund N; 2m: Olga, dau.of Vsevolod of Smolensk (+1344); 3m: Jevna (+1344) dau.of Pr Ivan of Polotzk; He had issue:
A1. [1m.] Manvydas (Monvid), Pr of Kirnovo/Karachev and Slonim, +ca 1341
A2. [1m.] Narimantas, baptized Orthodox as Gleb in 1333, Pr of Pinsk and Mozyr, Pr of Ladoga and Korela, *ca 1277, +2.2.1348; m.Marija, dau.of Khan Tokhtai
B1. Alexander, Pr of Podolia, *1338, 냕efore 1386
C1. Patrikey Alexandrovich, Pr of Zwenihorod, +1383/87; m.Yelena N
D1. Pr Fyodor Patrikeievich, +1426
E1. Pr Vasily of Khovan; his issue are Princes Khovansky, for which see HERE
D2. Pr Yury Patrikeievich, boyar in Moscow; +after 1437/ca 1447; m.Anna of Moscow, dau.of Dmitriy I Donskoi of Moscow by Eudoxia of Suzdal
E1. Pr Vasily Patrikeyev, boyar, +1450; m.Maria N
F1. Pr Ivan "Bulgak", boyar 1475, +14.4.1498; m.Ksenia Ivanovna Vsevolzhskaya
G1. Pr Ivan Bulgakov "Moshok", *1466, +12.6.1495
G2. Pr Dmitry Bulgakov, +after 1514
G3. Pr Mikhail Bulgakov "Galitsa", boyar, +1554; his issue are Princes Galitsyn

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Re: possible wives for Prince Georgy
« Reply #84 on: July 16, 2009, 02:56:06 PM »
The "problem" with a Rurikid princess is that they are excluded from the Fundamental Law in effect in 1917.

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« Reply #85 on: August 06, 2009, 12:00:52 PM »
Talking of marriage,David's is already over again.It was within a month.
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« Reply #86 on: August 10, 2009, 11:00:04 PM »
Talking of marriage,David's is already over again.It was within a month.


who is David?

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« Reply #87 on: August 10, 2009, 11:41:23 PM »
Talking of marriage,David's is already over again.It was within a month.


who is David?

Prince David Bagration-Mukhrani and Princess Anna Bagration-Gruzinsky,they married a few months ago remember?
And he didn't look all too happy at the occasion,as several noticed then.Now it appears the marriage is over and done with,in fact it
was within two months.The family considers the affair a private one so no statements will be issued.


From wicked Wiki:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/David_and_Anna_Bagrationi.JPG
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Re: possible wives for Prince Georgy
« Reply #88 on: August 11, 2009, 04:25:20 AM »
They both look like they have swallowed a lemon!

RemeMber though, that this was during the time when the Georgians attacked South Ossetia, and the Russians moved in and kicked the stuffing out of them.
Perhaps it was a marriage of convenience, more for political resons than one of love and HOT PASSION?????
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