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Re: Help with Photo IDs and/or captions
« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2013, 11:56:57 PM »
In all your  photos is Elisabeth of Hesse.

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Re: Help with Photo IDs and/or captions
« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2013, 07:30:49 AM »
I disagree....the child is Grand Duchess Tatiana. If you look at the entire album, it is Tatiana

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Re: Help with Photo IDs and/or captions
« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2013, 07:35:03 AM »
After looking at the rest of the album, I'm leaning towards Tatiana. There are several photos of Olga and this little girl with Nicholas and Alix, but I didn't see Ernie or Ducky appear in any of them.
In my opinion she's Tatiana.
The images come from here: http://www.statearchive.ru/437?page=2

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Re: Help with Photo IDs and/or captions
« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2013, 08:25:44 AM »
I think that it's Elizabeth of Hesse as well. She's been photographed in similar outfits and the hair and face shape seem to resemble her more than Olga or Tatiana. Plus, the captions on the photos themselves in the archive say Elizabeth.
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Re: Help with Photo IDs and/or captions
« Reply #49 on: May 10, 2013, 11:51:53 AM »
Definitely Elizabeth of Hesse...

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Re: Help with Photo IDs and/or captions
« Reply #50 on: May 10, 2013, 11:53:13 AM »
I'd say this is Tatiana Nicolaevna
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Re: Help with Photo IDs and/or captions
« Reply #51 on: May 10, 2013, 03:06:46 PM »
As the girl's outfit is similar to that of Olga in other pictures on http://www.statearchive.ru/437?page=1 and http://www.statearchive.ru/437?page=2, she most likely was not Elisabeth.

Also, the pictures  are said to be from 1899-1900, which is a further indication that she was not Elisabeth. When did Ernst Ludwig and his daughter join Nicholas and Alexandra on the Standart in 1899-1900?  I quickly checked  Nicholas' diaries for those years and did not find any references to any such trip in those years.
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"The Correspondence of the Empress Alexandra of Russia with Ernst Ludwig and Eleonore, Grand Duke and Duchess of Hesse. 1878-1916"  -  http://www.bod.de/index.php?id=296&objk_
"Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig and Princess Alix of Hesse and by Rhine in Italy - 1893"

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Re: Help with Photo IDs and/or captions
« Reply #52 on: May 10, 2013, 09:34:15 PM »
I think I opened a can of worms...
I'm working my way thru the album and the actual Ella appears on page five http://www.statearchive.ru/437?page=5 looking more Olga's size and bigger (by that I mean older) than the little girl in question.

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Re: Help with Photo IDs and/or captions
« Reply #53 on: May 11, 2013, 01:01:27 AM »
There are so many mislabelled persons and places... they even wrote "house in Baden" were it it Wolfsgarten...
Most interesting to learn that Alexandra had her own copy of the famous "Darmstadt Madonna" by Holbein...
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Re: Help with Photo IDs and/or captions
« Reply #54 on: May 11, 2013, 02:17:56 AM »
Yes, she got a copy during her stay in Hesse in 1896 as a belated wedding present. It was painted by a Fräulein Schäfer.
"The Correspondence of the Empress Alexandra of Russia with Ernst Ludwig and Eleonore, Grand Duke and Duchess of Hesse. 1878-1916"  -  http://www.bod.de/index.php?id=296&objk_
"Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig and Princess Alix of Hesse and by Rhine in Italy - 1893"

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Re: Help with Photo IDs and/or captions
« Reply #55 on: May 12, 2013, 12:08:11 PM »
The Holbain Madonna has been sold.

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Re: Help with Photo IDs and/or captions
« Reply #56 on: May 13, 2013, 08:11:23 AM »
Thank you Helen and Thomas. I was also looking at the hair length of both Elizabeth and Tatiana. There is a picture of Elizabeth riding a donkey and her hair was thick and long.