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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2006, 06:36:30 PM »
Several years ago I met in Spain Don Alvaro de Silva Mazarra de la Castaneda(Duque de Talavera de la Reina,Marquis de Zahara,Conde de Pio...he wrote those titles so maybe I have some problems with correct writting) who is a relative of Maria Luisa who married a Bavarian Prince!He told me that his relative was made Infanta of Spain in 1928(although I checked genealogy and saw that it was in 1927) and that Beatrice of Orleans was very furious because of the changing in order of precedence...At that time I wasn't very much interested in all this but in his home I took some pictures witch I will post!They show the wall of his home...

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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2006, 06:39:10 PM »
Here is a photo of one of the walls in his home where you can see the portrait of the Duke's father in the center and some small photos of Infanta Maria Luisa de Silva below...

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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2006, 06:40:48 PM »
Close up of the portrait in the center...

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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2006, 06:43:24 PM »
Close up of the photo of Maria Luisa de Silva,Duchessa de Talavera de la Reina..

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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2006, 06:44:53 PM »
And a close up of her watercolour portrait!

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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2006, 11:40:13 AM »
Here are Maria de las Mercedes and her stepmother, 2nd spouse of Infant Ferdinand




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I was hoping for a picture of an older Mercedes, may be at the time of her engagement/wedding.
But thanks any way.
It provided me the chance of first seeing how Duchess Maria Luisa looked like  :o

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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #40 on: October 15, 2006, 04:36:39 PM »
Ouuuups,sorry  :'( I didn't get the point!By the way,I am interested who she looked like too...

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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2006, 06:47:09 AM »
Maria Luisa de Silva was said to be not very attractive. She was born in 1870, which meant that she was 14 years older than her husband Ferdinand, but during all her life she lied saying that she was born in 1880. King Alfonso XIII made Maria Luisa an Infanta of Spain in 1927. It was the first time that a King of Spain made a non-royal person an infante or infanta. 
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2006, 11:10:06 AM »
A very long and interesting article about the Wittelsbach-Borbons marriages.

And I found Maria de las Mercedes there  :D

http://www.adghn.org/confe/2005/baviera.pdf

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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2006, 01:26:33 PM »
A very long and interesting article about the Wittelsbach-Borbons marriages.

And I found Maria de las Mercedes there  :D

http://www.adghn.org/confe/2005/baviera.pdf

Yes, that could be interesting if you are able to understand it.  ;)

José, could you tell me what the text on page 7 (Alfonso XIII and Wiltrud de Baviera) is about? Was Wiltrud a possible bride for Alfonso?

And could you tell me if the text says where in Munich I can find the building shown on p.21? Did Infanta Paz live there?
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #44 on: October 18, 2006, 03:32:35 PM »


Yes, that could be interesting if you are able to understand it.  ;)

José, could you tell me what the text on page 7 (Alfonso XIII and Wiltrud de Baviera) is about? Was Wiltrud a possible bride for Alfonso?

And could you tell me if the text says where in Munich I can find the building shown on p.21? Did Infanta Paz live there?
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My pleasure  ;)

As you probably know, there was a poll started by the Madrid newspaper ABC to find a bride for Alfonso among 8 princesses.

One of them was Wiltrud, but she “only” got 1488 votes   :-\.
Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg won by far with 18.427 votes followed by Patsy Connaught (13.719). Next came Viktoria Luisa de Prusia (12.901 votos); Luisa de Orleáns (10.675 votos); María Antonia de Mecklemburgo (7.040 votos); Beatriz de Sajonia-Coburgo (4.093 votos); y Olga de Cumberland (2.112votos).
Other possible candidates were Sophie of Saxony and Adss Maria-Gabriella of Habsburg.

The only Sophie of Saxony I could trace was Sophie of Saxe-Weimar (1888-1913) daughter of Pr. Wilhelm and Pss. Gerta von Isemburg-Budingen.
She never got married and committed suicide. Anybody knows why ?

Wiltrud eventually married Wilhelm, duke of Urach and was close to become a Queen as he was offered the throne of Lituania, with the enthusiastic support of the Kaiser.
He even changed his name to Mindovg/Mindaugas II.
In the end the affair did not come to any result.

Another possible candidate for Alfonso was Pss. Pilar of Bavaria, who fell madly in love with her cousin and never wanted any other man for marriage.

The building on page 21 is the “Pedagogium”, a school, founded by Pss.Paz to educate one poor boy (at least) from each province of Spain.
At a certain time , 38 students attended it.
The school opened in 1913 but was closed in 1918 when monarchy was abolished.
The text just says the school was built in the grounds of Nynphenburg.
Doesn’t say if it still exists.