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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2008, 03:33:10 AM »


titled: Deux princesses de la famille d'Orléans

I got it from a French website, heres the link

I guess that they are( from  left to right) Amélie of Saxony Coburg Gotha(1848-1927) and her elder sister Clotilde(1846-1927, Clémentine d'ORLEANS's daughters.

Warning: there are some mistakes on this website

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2008, 05:33:59 PM »
thanks Remi.  :)

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2008, 04:03:42 PM »

I guess that they are( from  left to right) Amélie of Saxony Coburg Gotha(1848-1927) and her elder sister Clotilde(1846-1927, Clémentine d'ORLEANS's daughters.

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Amalie died in 1894.
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« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2008, 11:06:26 AM »
Thank you, Marie-Charlotte for correcting my mistake... I mixed Amalia and Clotilde.

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2008, 11:18:12 AM »

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« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2008, 04:43:32 PM »
I had another look at this picture and came to the conclusion that we don't see Amalie and Clotilde in this picture.

1.) The sisters resembled their mother Clémentine d'Orléans, who had very chiselled features (just think of her nose!!), a lot. But in this picture, I cannot see any resemblance to Clémentine.

2.) Clotilde was more than two years older than Amalie. So she had to be a bit taller than her younger sister. The girls on the pic almost have the same height.
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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2008, 08:54:17 PM »

In the site of the "Reunion des musees nationaux", it says about the first picture posted:

Fonds : Photographies
Titre : Les Princesses Hélène et Louise d'Angleterre en costume folkloriques
Description : Album de famille n° 18 : Hélène d'Angleterre (1846-1923) et Louise d'Angleterre (1848-1939), future duchesse d'Argyll
Auteur : Caldesi Leonida (19e siècle) photographe anglais
Crédit photographique : (C) RMN / René-Gabriel Ojéda
Période : 19e siècle
Date : 1859
Localisation : Chantilly, musée Condé

What do you think? Might they be Princess Helena and Princess Louise of England?

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« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2008, 02:51:47 AM »
What do you think? Might they be Princess Helena and Princess Louise of England?

Thanks, Veronica. I don't know much about English royalty, but I guess you are right. There are pictures of Amalie and Clotilde together with daughters of Queen Victoria (I didn't have their identity, but because of their birthdates, I've always thought of Alice, Helena or Louise) and I'm quite sure that the girls on the pic REMI posted, are NOT Amalie and Clotilde.
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« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2008, 06:42:39 AM »
Sorry, dear Marie-Charlotte, it is not me but Mandie, the Gothic Empress, who posted the pic for identification on november 28...

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2008, 11:32:17 AM »



i talked about this picture with my dear friend synnadene, but we couldn't identify the persons fore sure. our suggestion:

(left to right): philipp duke of württemberg, amalie princess of saxe-coburg, marie therese duchess of württemberg, archduchess clotilde and archduke joseph

what do you think?

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2008, 04:34:49 PM »



I think as both you,Marie Charlotte, and Synnadene do.The man on the left must be Philip von Würtemberg.Compare with the pic of Philipp herewith. They are the same even though the other looks like .....Rasputin with his long hair and his dense beard! The man on the right must be Archduke Joseph. I am more uncertain about the ladies....

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #41 on: December 12, 2008, 09:09:45 AM »
Yes...very nice looking. I reconized the Coburg Princesses at once Amalie & Clotilde.

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2008, 05:32:19 AM »



i talked about this picture with my dear friend synnadene, but we couldn't identify the persons fore sure. our suggestion:

(left to right): philipp duke of württemberg, amalie princess of saxe-coburg, marie therese duchess of württemberg, archduchess clotilde and archduke joseph





I agree with all sitters except "archduchess clotilde". IMO that's Archduchess Elisabeth, sister of Archduke Joseph.

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2008, 10:25:49 AM »
Which Archduchess Elisabeth ?

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2008, 11:57:44 AM »
Which Archduchess Elisabeth ?

Mother of Queen Maria Cristina of Spain.