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Re: One thing i find odd part two.
« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2006, 01:24:02 PM »
Well, it seems a good deal of information here is getting sandwiched between personal sniping. I would make the request, as I have before on other threads, that posters should please address personal concerns with other posters to PM. There is no need to drag the rest of the board into it. If a poster feels on is rude, or mocking or overly-strict or any of the other adjectives tossed around on all sides, is it really necessary to air it out in the public forum? This is something that isn't the expression of free ideas or representative of the tone that Rob and Bob work very hard to maintain. It just creates an atmosphere where people are reluctant to post. Every day I notice the 'new users' that sign up and yet I see comparatively few of them post on any consistent basis--if at all. As a moderator, I want everyone to feel comfortable posting their opinions without fear of mockery or over-correction.

Now, off that soapbox, I would like to return to the earlier point about the telegram. As the FA pointed out, you can get responses from official agencies fairly easily. I sent a wedding invitation to both the President and the Pope as I had heard you'd get a response (if not an acceptance!) and I thought it would make a nice souvenir. I was sent official response from both and they went right into the wedding scrapbooks.

I really have to admire Tsarfan's dedication in calling Princess Anne's office!  :o I think that that is just great and supplied some real information for the discussion.
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Re: One thing i find odd part two.
« Reply #46 on: November 07, 2006, 01:32:20 PM »
You can have sources and footnotes galore, but that doesn't mean you're right because you can quote sources.  The sources have to right.

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Re: One thing i find odd part two.
« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2006, 01:56:14 PM »
Wow. I'm sending my 21st birthday invite to the Queen, then!

And good detective work, Tsarfan! I love the fact that you just rang up Princess Anne.  Even though you didn't speak to her personally, that's pretty impressive!

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Re: One thing i find odd part two.
« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2006, 02:33:52 PM »
Wow this sure got started and festered quickly! For a moment I didn't even notice it was part 2.

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Re: One thing i find odd part two.
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2006, 03:25:46 PM »
So Belocha, Are you a hemotologist? What are your medical credentials. Others may know this, but I do not.
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Re: One thing i find odd part two.
« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2006, 04:39:21 PM »
So Belocha, Are you a hemotologist? What are your medical credentials. Others may know this, but I do not.
Thank you,
Lexi

I will be more than happy to give you both my co-author's and my own quailifications. Margarita is a qualified medical scientist of twenty years standing holding a number of qualifications, which includes a university postgraduate medical science degree. She has worked in both diagnostic and research hematology/immunology laboratories in two major city hospitals. Her specialization is pathology, which was followed up with post graduate legal studies.

My own qualification are not limited to a Masters in Library Science, although this is correct. I also have a Masters degree in Biochemistry with over five years bench top research experience in biochemistry, molecular biology and molecular neurophysiology. In addition, I hold a post graduate certificate in Drug Discovery and Clinical Research. If you have any more questions, I will be very happy to answer them.

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Re: One thing i find odd part two.
« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2006, 04:43:17 PM »
The crack about Penny Wilson is uncalled for and unnecessary.
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Re: One thing i find odd part two.
« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2006, 05:14:25 PM »
The crack about Penny Wilson is uncalled for and unnecessary.

I agree.

Now hear this: posters have been warned and one thread locked down. The next person to personally attack another poster on this thread will face a 90 day suspension. I am sure that Bob and Rob will back me up on this.

There is no need to be nasty, sarcastic, mean or unpleasant to anyone on this board. I won't have it in the Survivors section. If anyone has said something they should not have, you need to apologize immediately by PM. Granduchessella has instructed you to keep your personal disagreements off this board, so we must back her up on this.

Now, back to posting.

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Re: One thing i find odd part two.
« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2006, 05:15:19 PM »
So Belocha, Are you a hemotologist? What are your medical credentials. Others may know this, but I do not.

Margarita is a qualified medical scientist of twenty years standing holding a number of qualifications, which includes a university postgraduate medical science degree. She has worked in both diagnostic and research hematology/immunology laboratories in two major city hospitals. Her specialization is pathology, which was followed up with post graduate legal studies.

My own qualification are not limited to a Masters in Library Science, although this is correct. I also have a Masters degree in Biochemistry with over five years bench top research experience in biochemistry, molecular biology and molecular neurophysiology. In addition, I hold a post graduate certificate in Drug Discovery and Clinical Research.


I notice that Mr. Kendrick has not yet answered the question he was asked earlier about his medical credentials.  Perhaps he will grace us with the answer on the Heino Tammet thread.

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Re: One thing i find odd part two.
« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2006, 06:14:58 PM »
You can have sources and footnotes galore, but that doesn't mean you're right because you can quote sources.  The sources have to right.

Exactly! This is why I have such a problem with people endlessly quoting from the same books all the time. Some posters incorrectly believe that if they can put a page number to something it's the 'truth' but this is not necessarily so! Many of those quotes were incorrect, speculation or lies, or were later proven wrong. Just because you can say 'on page 222 of Blah Book, Mrs. Gertrude said La la la" does not mean this is the truth. All it means is that someone allegedly said something. This may or may not be true, and even if they said it, they may well have been wrong. So saying you used 'sources' does not always mean you are right.

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Re: One thing i find odd part two.
« Reply #55 on: November 07, 2006, 08:17:53 PM »
So Belocha, Are you a hemotologist? What are your medical credentials. Others may know this, but I do not.
Thank you,
Lexi

I will be more than happy to give you both my co-author's and my own quailifications. Margarita is a qualified medical scientist of twenty years standing holding a number of qualifications, which includes a university postgraduate medical science degree. She has worked in both diagnostic and research hematology/immunology laboratories in two major city hospitals. Her specialization is pathology, which was followed up with post graduate legal studies.

My own qualification are not limited to a Masters in Library Science, although this is correct. I also have a Masters degree in Biochemistry with over five years bench top research experience in biochemistry, molecular biology and molecular neurophysiology. In addition, I hold a post graduate certificate in Drug Discovery and Clinical Research. If you have any more questions, I will be very happy to answer them.


Thank you Helen. I appreciate that.
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Re: One thing i find odd part two.
« Reply #56 on: November 07, 2006, 08:20:28 PM »
Btw, what was "the one thing I fund odd"? I don't even remember.  :)
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Re: One thing i find odd part two.
« Reply #57 on: November 08, 2006, 02:37:37 AM »
You can have sources and footnotes galore, but that doesn't mean you're right because you can quote sources.  The sources have to right.

Exactly! This is why I have such a problem with people endlessly quoting from the same books all the time. Some posters incorrectly believe that if they can put a page number to something it's the 'truth' but this is not necessarily so! Many of those quotes were incorrect, speculation or lies, or were later proven wrong. Just because you can say 'on page 222 of Blah Book, Mrs. Gertrude said La la la" does not mean this is the truth. All it means is that someone allegedly said something. This may or may not be true, and even if they said it, they may well have been wrong. So saying you used 'sources' does not always mean you are right.

Let me explain, again, why it's important to quote sources, even though it's a pain in the neck to go find the book or newspaper or whatever it is you are using as a source,  and present it to all of us.   With the source  such as Annie's example of  page 222  in the  "Blah book" which Annie tells us stated "Mrs. Gertrude said,  "La la la"  we can find it and read it for ourself.  I may see that indieed Mrs. Gertrude said, "La la la...." and that Mrs. Gertrude said in the rest of the sentence on page 223,  "... I was the daughter of my father's first wife.".     



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Re: One thing i find odd part two.
« Reply #58 on: November 08, 2006, 06:40:04 AM »
You're still assuming that just because Mrs. Gertrude said it on page 222 that it's a 'fact.' In all these he said she said things, it's possible Mrs. Gertrude lied, and it's also possible that her words were twisted or even fabricated by someone else along the line. On the other hand, DNA tests are not twisted (and no intestines get switched) so they hold much more weight than what Miss Woopee said about a pair of shoes. Then of course with shoes, it's even more subjective, and human error (in addition to possibe lying) comes into play. People may be unsure after so many years, or they may even be the wrong shoes and the originals long gone. So what it comes down to is all the little tidbits AA touters like to hold to as 'everything else I can't ignore' really don't mean anything compared to the DNA.
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Re: One thing i find odd part two.
« Reply #59 on: November 08, 2006, 09:46:37 AM »
Btw, what was "the one thing I fund odd"? I don't even remember.  :)

I've been saying that for awhile now! :D I suppose it's ALL odd! 8)