The Alexander Palace Time Machine Discussion Forum
 
 User Info & Key Stats   
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
November 23, 2014, 01:24:13 AM
462540 Posts in 8996 Topics by 14527 Members
Latest Member: Ekaterina2012
News: We think Pallasart is the best web design company in Austin and for good reason - they make this forum possible! Looking for a website? Call them at 512 469-7454.
+  The Alexander Palace Time Machine Discussion Forum
|-+  Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty
| |-+  Tatiana Nicholaievna (Moderators: Sarushka, BobAtchison, Forum Admin)
| | |-+  The Faberge Ortinos
  0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 3 Go Down Print
Author
Topic: The Faberge Ortinos  (Read 8440 times)
« on: December 01, 2006, 08:16:49 PM »
tatianolishka_ Offline
Boyar
**
What is history but a fable agreed upon? Posts: 131

View Profile

Apparently, Tatiana owned several little rock crystal bulldogs made by Faberge. Were these actually based on Ortino, or just because she liked the breed? Since she received Ortino in 1914 during her nursing years, was it even possible to get them to Tatiana?

Any information or pictures is greatly appreciated.
Logged
Reply #1
« on: December 02, 2006, 09:17:05 AM »
grandduchess_42 Offline
Velikye Knyaz
****
. Emiliya Brianaiovna . Ella of Hesse . Posts: 3498

View Profile WWW

that would be so sweet!
she would have jumped for joy!

sadly i havn't hear of faberge ortinos!
eggs yes... but dogs?

i've only heard of one!
and its this one!

Logged

So keep me awake for every moment
Give us more time to be this way
We can't stay like this forever
But I can have you next to me today
. Josh Groban .
Reply #2
« on: December 02, 2006, 02:15:42 PM »
clockworkgirl21 Offline
Velikye Knyaz
****
Posts: 2629

View Profile

Was that little figure actually supposed to be Ortino? I always thought it was just a bulldog that Tatiana kept because it looked like him.
Logged

Reply #3
« on: December 02, 2006, 03:03:46 PM »
tatianolishka_ Offline
Boyar
**
What is history but a fable agreed upon? Posts: 131

View Profile

On the Alexander Palace Ortino Bio, it says this:

Quote
Tatiana had a collection of Ortinos carved in semi-precious stones just like this one made of rock crystal set with blue sapphires and a gold collar. She kept them in her bedroom and now they have been dispersed around the world, including one in the Cleveland Museum.

That's all I could find about the Ortinos.
Logged
Reply #4
« on: December 02, 2006, 03:12:54 PM »
grandduchess_42 Offline
Velikye Knyaz
****
. Emiliya Brianaiovna . Ella of Hesse . Posts: 3498

View Profile WWW

On the Alexander Palace Ortino Bio, it says this:

Quote
Tatiana had a collection of Ortinos carved in semi-precious stones just like this one made of rock crystal set with blue sapphires and a gold collar. She kept them in her bedroom and now they have been dispersed around the world, including one in the Cleveland Museum.

That's all I could find about the Ortinos.

well if you look at the picture
that one does have a gold collar and a blue saphire diamond in the center
but thats the only one i could find

maybe there are more!
Logged

So keep me awake for every moment
Give us more time to be this way
We can't stay like this forever
But I can have you next to me today
. Josh Groban .
Reply #5
« on: December 02, 2006, 03:32:29 PM »
tatianolishka_ Offline
Boyar
**
What is history but a fable agreed upon? Posts: 131

View Profile

Well, if the author is right, then there must be some left, but perhaps they are sitting in someone's attic? Who knows; perhaps ten years from now some guy's going to go up and clean his attic and find a small little rock-crystal figurine and go "Wow, where did THAT come from?" and we can only hope he does some research.

Perhaps someone can tell us more about these cute little dogs?
Logged
Reply #6
« on: December 02, 2006, 03:47:36 PM »
grandduchess_42 Offline
Velikye Knyaz
****
. Emiliya Brianaiovna . Ella of Hesse . Posts: 3498

View Profile WWW

hehehe
i don't think they'd be in somebodies attic!
but who knows!

here is a great site i found on them!
Logged

So keep me awake for every moment
Give us more time to be this way
We can't stay like this forever
But I can have you next to me today
. Josh Groban .
Reply #7
« on: December 02, 2006, 05:00:17 PM »
Sarushka Offline
Moderator
Velikye Knyaz
*****
May I interest you in a grain of salt? Posts: 6438

View Profile WWW

I always thought it was just a bulldog that Tatiana kept because it looked like him.
Yes, thats true as far as I know. I recall reading somewhere on the forum that Tatiana had a collection of French bulldog figurines (some of them Faberge), but I don't believe they were modeled specifically on Ortino himself.
Logged

THE LOST CROWN: A Novel of Romanov Russia -- now in paperback!
"A dramatic, powerful narrative and a masterful grasp of life in this vanished world." ~Greg King
Reply #8
« on: December 02, 2006, 05:13:20 PM »
grandduchess_42 Offline
Velikye Knyaz
****
. Emiliya Brianaiovna . Ella of Hesse . Posts: 3498

View Profile WWW

who gave them to her?
Logged

So keep me awake for every moment
Give us more time to be this way
We can't stay like this forever
But I can have you next to me today
. Josh Groban .
Reply #9
« on: December 03, 2006, 11:19:18 AM »
mitia Offline
Newbie
*
I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 85

View Profile

It is indeed difficult to know FOR SURE if the little figurine shown on the photo posted on this thread was modelled from Ortino. One should have to get access to the Faberge archives to be sure. However, I have always heard that this particular figurine of a french bulldog which is displayed at Cleveland museum of arts, was one of the 2 " surviving figurines " of Ortino ( or of a french bulldog ) that Tatiana had in her little collection. The other surviving figurine is in the Kremlin museum of Moscow. The other figurines from Tatiana 's collection are said to have been dispersed after the Revolution.

This type of Faberge dogs and animals figurines are usually VERY small ( about 10 cms ), there are many of them displayed at Buckingham Palace in the Queen's Collections, including a very well known ( and ugly !!! ) french bulldog modelled from life at Sandringham in the very late 1890s. This frenchie dog belonged to King Edward VII who had several french bulldogs including the famous Peter.

I VERY MUCH doubt that one may find a Faberge figurine in an attic ! I rather believe that the other Tatiana / Ortino figurines which are said to have desapeared after the 1917 Revolution, may be in private collections and that their owners prefer to keep silent about these little treasures.
Logged
Reply #10
« on: December 04, 2006, 05:50:22 PM »
grandduchess_42 Offline
Velikye Knyaz
****
. Emiliya Brianaiovna . Ella of Hesse . Posts: 3498

View Profile WWW

thank you for that information mitia!

i wish we could see them!
or how many did she have?

there are probably very different looking
Logged

So keep me awake for every moment
Give us more time to be this way
We can't stay like this forever
But I can have you next to me today
. Josh Groban .
Reply #11
« on: December 04, 2006, 08:02:12 PM »
GD_Sasha Offline
Newbie
*
"Ain't that you with the Moslems?" -M.I.A. Posts: 64

View Profile WWW

Here's another website-lists that the little statue we so often see is indeed supposed to be Ortino. Sadly, as I scanned through the page they did not mention much on the little Faberge Ortinos. (sadly, it was all I could find!)
Logged

Reply #12
« on: December 05, 2006, 04:38:54 PM »
grandduchess_42 Offline
Velikye Knyaz
****
. Emiliya Brianaiovna . Ella of Hesse . Posts: 3498

View Profile WWW

GD_S
thats an amazing site!

thank you for that!
so anna V gave her the dog?
Logged

So keep me awake for every moment
Give us more time to be this way
We can't stay like this forever
But I can have you next to me today
. Josh Groban .
Reply #13
« on: December 05, 2006, 07:06:48 PM »
tatianolishka_ Offline
Boyar
**
What is history but a fable agreed upon? Posts: 131

View Profile

Thanks a lot Sasha!

No, Emily. It was Dimitri Malama who gave it to her; Anna V. just carried him to her.  Smiley

So the two supposed surviving Faberge dogs are in the Cleveland Museam and the Kremlin. I wonder why there are none in the Hermitage? Or if there are, I am really confused. If there are only two, how can one just magically appear out of nowhere? Or am I making some literary mistake?

Mitia, I was only kidding. I, too, highly doubt they would be in someones attic.  Smiley
« Last Edit: December 05, 2006, 07:17:26 PM by tatianolishka_1 » Logged
Reply #14
« on: December 05, 2006, 07:13:36 PM »
grandduchess_42 Offline
Velikye Knyaz
****
. Emiliya Brianaiovna . Ella of Hesse . Posts: 3498

View Profile WWW

oh... was she called anya for short?

and there is one in the hermitage
the one i psoted is there
Logged

So keep me awake for every moment
Give us more time to be this way
We can't stay like this forever
But I can have you next to me today
. Josh Groban .
Pages: [1] 2 3 Go Up Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS! Website by Pallasart - Austin Web Design