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Re: Tatiana and Vladimir Kiknadze
« Reply #60 on: May 24, 2010, 12:13:12 AM »
I just can't stop :)Unlikely, but doesn't this man talking with Olga look like Kiknadze?
Antonina ....looking at that photo again...perhaps the man Olga is speaking with is not Vladimir Kiknadze...but the man behind her
in the darker robe  than the others looks like him to me....a  Vladimir Kiknadze not feeling too well perhaps.
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Re: Tatiana and Vladimir Kiknadze
« Reply #61 on: May 24, 2010, 02:54:17 AM »
blessOTMA, well, for me he doesn't. This man behind has a thicker moustache than Kiknadze. And the man talking with Olga has I thought the same proportions of the face with Volodia's and the same hairstyle. Anyway, right you are, we can't  have a 100%  guarantee, it's just a mere guesswork :)
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Re: Tatiana and Vladimir Kiknadze
« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2010, 07:47:44 AM »
blessOTMA, well, for me he doesn't. This man behind has a thicker moustache than Kiknadze. And the man talking with Olga has I thought the same proportions of the face with Volodia's and the same hairstyle. Anyway, right you are, we can't  have a 100%  guarantee, it's just a mere guesswork :)
When I enlarged the photo to get a better look, The man in the darker robe didn't  look like Kiknadze's usual lively self to me ...but perhaps an unwell  Kiknadze, with a puffy face.  Moustaches can change size, particularly when one is not feeling well ;). But as you say, who knows? But thanks to you I  see this is Olga! For a long time, I thought it was Tatiana! lol! So thank you!

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Re: Tatiana and Vladimir Kiknadze
« Reply #63 on: May 24, 2010, 08:08:02 AM »
Moustaches grow, and need trimming from time to time. My ex-husband rarely bothered trimming his but got it done especially for the wedding. It made him look quite different!

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Re: Tatiana and Vladimir Kiknadze
« Reply #64 on: May 25, 2010, 02:12:45 AM »
:))) Of course moustache isn't the only difference. But maybe  you are right.
Oh... I'm sorry blessOTMA, it wasn't me who helped you. I also was doubting a lot until find this picture somewhere on the forum signed as 'Olga with wounded' - so you must thank somebody else :)
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Re: Tatiana and Vladimir Kiknadze
« Reply #65 on: May 13, 2011, 02:05:20 PM »
Hi all,

I am terribly confused on who is who in this subject. I tried to find some more info on a "Vladimir Kinkadze" and found this forum page and first I see is that the name I have seems to be spelled wrong...

I got the name from the December 2009 Christie's London auction of photoalbums and portraits containing images of Vladimir. http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?from=searchresults&intObjectID=5274766&sid=5c0e275f-383a-46cc-a68b-dfb2f1aa3097 Click to enlarge.

Please can anyone tell me if the guy on the pix with GD Tatiana is Vladimir K. and if he is not, who is he?

Thanks!


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Re: Tatiana and Vladimir Kiknadze
« Reply #66 on: May 13, 2011, 03:02:24 PM »
Hi all,
I am terribly confused on who is who in this subject. I tried to find some more info on a "Vladimir Kinkadze" and found this forum page and first I see is that the name I have seems to be spelled wrong...

This is just a misspell, do not take it seriously. I don't think that there could have been another one Vladimir Kiknadze in Russian Army (with the name of Kinkadze) from the same regiment, same rank, from the same lazaret, close to Tatiana, etc...;).

Please can anyone tell me if the guy on the pix with GD Tatiana is Vladimir K. and if he is not, who is he?

Thanks!

Only God can give a fully guarantee, but...judging by the dark Georgian appearance, military rank, presence of Tsarskoe Selo lazaret, Kiknadze's regiment's uniform, plenty of photos withTatiana, 99% that this is Vladimir Ivanovich Kiknadze.

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Re: Tatiana and Vladimir Kiknadze
« Reply #67 on: May 13, 2011, 03:15:29 PM »
Thank you Nicolá De Valerón!

So Christie's is right about the man but slightly wrong about the name.

Now can you please explain why you think the man you encircled in your post #34 is the same VK? To me he looks totally different, more "blond blue eye type". One cannot change that much, can it?


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Re: Tatiana and Vladimir Kiknadze
« Reply #68 on: May 13, 2011, 03:45:36 PM »

Now can you please explain why you think the man you encircled in your post #34 is the same VK? To me he looks totally different, more "blond blue eye type". One cannot change that much, can it?


The man in post 34 is not a Kiknadze. I've already refuted this version on "Rare pictures IX" thread (post 325) and apologized for this mistake. The only photo we have is that one from Christie's.
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Re: Tatiana and Vladimir Kiknadze
« Reply #69 on: April 24, 2012, 09:12:26 AM »
Thanks to blessOTMA we get this photo:


If I'm not mistaking, here we can see both of the "little couples" from Chebotariova's diary:
Olga Nikolaevna and Dmitriy Shakh-Bagov (a gloomy  fellow between GD's)
Tatiana Nikolaevna and (??) Vladimir Kiknadze (rightmost below).
Does he look like himself?
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Re: Tatiana and Vladimir Kiknadze
« Reply #70 on: April 25, 2012, 04:13:31 AM »
All this time I thought this was Vladimir Kiknadze
 
Now after carefully reading Nicola's lastest  posts here, I see he's not (or have I misunderstood again?)
I certainly agree this man with TN ,,,,,,  
could be the same one sitting on the floor here
   

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Re: Tatiana and Vladimir Kiknadze
« Reply #71 on: May 02, 2013, 11:44:46 AM »
Another photo from Kiknadze's album in a good size
http://www.kp.ru/photo/48186/861378/
I'm sure it is him who sits on a chair. Maybe the uniform experts will correct me. Really handsome)
And I can say the guy in bed is Olga's Mitia.
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Re: Tatiana and Vladimir Kiknadze
« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2013, 01:47:53 AM »
Another one, ladies and gentelmen!
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Re: Tatiana and Vladimir Kiknadze
« Reply #73 on: May 16, 2013, 10:24:48 PM »
I saw this one in a tiny form from a Auction House sale... Wow! wonderful to see it so well!Thank you!

I'm wondering if this was taken in the family's private rooms because they are sitting on a day bed that has Alix's name all over it ( slang meaning it looks like one of the  the battalion of daybeds that follow in her wake) Also I 'm wondering if he was given that wrist  watch by TN as both are displaying it  for the lens...He is  also wearing it in the photo of them  when he's in the cot in the hall.  TN pointly  displays a ring on her hand in the photo with Marie ( with hair up) and Nicholas on the balcony around this time.

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Re: Tatiana and Vladimir Kiknadze
« Reply #74 on: May 17, 2013, 03:11:07 PM »
Another one, ladies and gentelmen!

A wonderful , sweet photo, Antonina!  The two really seem a couple here, almost holding hands. That's very rare in photos of the Imperial daughters with their 'beaus' . There's no reading between the lines necessary in this one. And good for them! Tatiana really seems happy and proud.
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