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Re: Crownprince Wilhelm & Crownprincess Cecilie, their family, Part I
« Reply #60 on: January 31, 2005, 09:20:13 AM »
After she and young Wilhelm divorced, did Cecilie ever have any romantic liasons? Her dedication to her duties and family may not have afforded much time for creating new personal relationships, but she was definitely a
"catch". During times of extreme stress and difficulties, I wonder if she found any support/relief in the company of a love interest?
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Re: Crownprince Wilhelm & Crownprincess Cecilie, their family, Part I
« Reply #61 on: February 01, 2005, 03:33:54 AM »
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After she and young Wilhelm divorced, did Cecilie ever have any romantic liasons? Her dedication to her duties and family may not have afforded much time for creating new personal relationships, but she was definitely a
"catch". During times of extreme stress and difficulties, I wonder if she found any support/relief in the company of a love interest?


They didn't divorce though they did live separately after the war but I think their relationship with each other was alright.  

I doubt Cecilie had any romantic liasons since she still had two infant daughters and a few teenage sons to bring up after the war.  

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Re: Crownprince Wilhelm & Crownprincess Cecilie, their family, Part I
« Reply #62 on: February 24, 2005, 08:43:10 PM »
There was a newspaper clip that read:

Crown Princess Cecilia, who since her marriage five years ago has become far and away the most popular member of the reigning house of Hohenzollern, and the recognized leader of fashion in Germany, for which I may say, parenthetically, she is particularly well qualified by her almost wholly Parisian education, is the active president of the Imperial German Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.

Apparently she was a crusader against vivisection.
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Re: Crownprince Wilhelm & Crownprincess Cecilie, their family, Part I
« Reply #63 on: February 26, 2005, 04:21:24 PM »
A lovely portrait in middle-age

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Re: Crownprince Wilhelm & Crownprincess Cecilie, their family, Part I
« Reply #64 on: February 26, 2005, 08:12:31 PM »
I think Kronprinzessin Cecilie remained popular throughout her life, even more so than her own son Louis Ferdinand who was very popular, and who could have, in my opinion, positioned himself as Germany's postwar leader had he been the head of the anti-Hitler movement.

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Re: Crownprince Wilhelm & Crownprincess Cecilie, their family, Part I
« Reply #65 on: February 28, 2005, 07:47:22 AM »
Does anyone have bigger portrait of Cecilie sitting in the chair wearing Meander Tiara?Very beautiful portrait!

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Re: Crownprince Wilhelm & Crownprincess Cecilie, their family, Part I
« Reply #66 on: March 02, 2005, 09:20:40 AM »
Wonderful photo of the great beauty Cecilie. Thanks so much GrandDuchess! I am thinking this must be circa 1925ish?

Was it customary for German royals to sign, in their own hand, their publicity photos? Or, is the handwritten 'Cecilie' the photographer?

Also, she (or whoever) wrote 'Kronprincessin' under her name. Was it usual to put their title in by hand? Seems a bit odd.

Thanks again! love the photos of Cecilie!
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Re: Crownprince Wilhelm & Crownprincess Cecilie, their family, Part I
« Reply #67 on: March 02, 2005, 09:29:27 AM »
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They didn't divorce though they did live separately after the war but I think their relationship with each other was alright."

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Re: Crownprince Wilhelm & Crownprincess Cecilie, their family, Part I
« Reply #68 on: March 02, 2005, 10:33:15 AM »
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Wonderful photo of the great beauty Cecilie. Thanks so much GrandDuchess! I am thinking this must be circa 1925ish?

Was it customary for German royals to sign, in their own hand, their publicity photos? Or, is the handwritten 'Cecilie' the photographer?

Also, she (or whoever) wrote 'Kronprincessin' under her name. Was it usual to put their title in by hand? Seems a bit odd.

Thanks again! love the photos of Cecilie!



It does read KRONPRINZESSIN...I just checked my copy of this very popular postcard.

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Re: Crownprince Wilhelm & Crownprincess Cecilie, their family, Part I
« Reply #69 on: March 02, 2005, 10:34:09 AM »
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Thank you all,Arturo,Ella and Alison,for your answers!
I agree Cecilie was a mix and more a Mecklenburg than Romanov. If Anastasia was a striking beauty,despite of her heavy eye-lids,Cecilie to my mind was a charming beauty,more soft and pleasant-looking than her mother.

Well, I'll try to compare Cecilie's features with her grandparents'  ;D - not a very serious pastime but so interesting sometimes!  ;)


My pleasure...I like to share my knowledge...not hog it!  ;D

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Re: Crownprince Wilhelm & Crownprincess Cecilie, their family, Part I
« Reply #70 on: March 02, 2005, 02:48:15 PM »
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Wonderful photo of the great beauty Cecilie. Thanks so much GrandDuchess! I am thinking this must be circa 1925ish?



You're very welcome HerrKaiser. I thought this one was particularly interesting as by this period she tends to be shown in more matronly, even frumpy on occasion, outfits. This was was very attractive I think--love the bared shoulders. Not bad for a mother of 6!
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Re: Crownprince Wilhelm & Crownprincess Cecilie, their family, Part I
« Reply #71 on: March 09, 2005, 01:02:38 PM »
This may be off track, but was looking in books and was struck by how much Cecilie and Grand Duchess Marie Pavlovna the Elder looked alike!

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Re: Crownprince Wilhelm & Crownprincess Cecilie, their family, Part I
« Reply #72 on: March 09, 2005, 01:18:39 PM »
You think so?  I see no resemblence between them...  :-[

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Re: Crownprince Wilhelm & Crownprincess Cecilie, their family, Part I
« Reply #73 on: March 09, 2005, 01:29:37 PM »
Just look at the noses, Marie was much bigger,but it is their.Cecilie even reminds me of Elena of Greece. They had perfect noses. No bumps or any of the long things.That were pasted off as beautiful.

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Re: Crownprince Wilhelm & Crownprincess Cecilie, their family, Part I
« Reply #74 on: March 09, 2005, 01:42:54 PM »
Maria pavlovna and Helen obviously I see the resemblence...but other than what you mention of Cecilie's I see none...neither of us is correct or incorrect...just an appreiation.

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