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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig (Ernie), Grand Duchess Eleanor (Onor) & family
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2004, 01:40:41 PM »
relating Queen Ena and the jewels ive just read in a new book on this subect that the spanish queens favourite stones in spite of their low value were the aquamarines(im not sure i wrote it correctly) and this because she saw Alexandra wearing these stones when a child and was very impressed(Ena had a portrait of the Tsarina hung in her study) . I read as well that grand duchess Ella sent her as wedding present a big saphire in 1906.

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig (Ernie), Grand Duchess Eleanor (Onor) & family
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2004, 12:10:38 AM »
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relating Queen Ena and the jewels ive just read in a new book on this subect that the spanish queens favourite stones in spite of their low value were the aquamarines(im not sure i wrote it correctly) and this because she saw Alexandra wearing these stones when a child and was very impressed(Ena had a portrait of the Tsarina hung in her study) . I read as well that grand duchess Ella sent her as wedding present a big saphire in 1906.


Can I ask where you read this? It touches on 3 of my favorite topics--royal jewels, Queen Ena and Ella! Many thanks.
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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig (Ernie), Grand Duchess Eleanor (Onor) & family
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2004, 08:38:02 AM »
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To Penny!!

I was wondering in your new book about dear Ernie,
are you planning to include any of the Grand Duke's poems? There are some splendid extracts in the Knodt book. But in case you are interested, there is a copy for sale of his book "Rosenhoehe" at this address: -
Erasmushaus - Haus der Buecher, Baeumleingasse 18, Basel, Switzerland. CH-4001. Its rather expensive if i remember, but i suppose because it is so rare. Good luck with your book!! I can't wait to see it, im very very interested in the Hessians, so am terribly looking forward to it!

Best wishes,
Elisa :)


For Christmas, a friend gave me one of a limited and numbered editions of Ernie's poems, published in 1917 to mark, presumably, his 25th anniversary as Grand Duke.  I understand that there are more, as well as his plays and songs-but we'll definitely be using all the material we can find.

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig (Ernie), Grand Duchess Eleanor (Onor) & family
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2004, 07:29:24 AM »
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In the back of the book on Ernie, there is information about a book on Onor called "Grossherzogin Eleonore, eine Denkschrift uber ihr soziales Werk". It appears to have some kind of contribution from M. Ewald, but i don't know if it was written by her...

Elisa :)


Maria von Ewald was the editor of "Grossherzogin Eleonore und Ihr Werk", published in Darmstadt in 1938. I don't yet know what element of personal reminiscence if any might be included

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig (Ernie), Grand Duchess Eleanor (Onor) & family
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2004, 08:45:32 PM »
Looking at that family tree always reminds me of the tragic Kennedys. So many deaths in such tragic circumstances. Ernie's son, pregnant wife, grandsons and widow all died in a plane crash on their way to the other son's wedding. The surviving son and his fiancee married quietly after that and adopted little Princess Johanna, the only survivor of his brother's family. Then little Johanna died a year or so later of illness and they weren't able to have children of their own. What a terribly sad, tragic family history.

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Im glad that Onor and Ernie(great names for a couple)had a  good,friendly,  happy relationship.I think that they would have been truly nice people to have called friends.

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I read that the Grand Duke stayed in England in 1910 - it might have been in occasion of his uncle's funeral, but of course I could be wrong.


He did attend his uncle's funeral, marching in the 9th row alongside Prince Henry of Prussia and the GD of Mecklenberg-Strelitz. If I still had access to the Times archive, I could check the Court Circulars.  >:(  Luckily, I'd saved the programs/articles dealing with Edward VII.
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There is a painting of GD Ernst c1907 by Franz von Stuck in the Schlossmuseum (on the left clique on geschichte):

http://www.schlossmuseum-darmstadt.de/start.htm

Joanna


This is the photo used on the dust jacket from the bio of the GD by Manfred Knodt as well.
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 That is such a tragic story, I always wondered what happened :(

There are some excellent pictures of Ernie in Greg's book about Alexandra. Would it be okay if I scanned them and posted them? Someone said pictures can't be posted here? But that has changed, hasn't it, since there are pics here now?? ???

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Right, Louise, I didn't think of that. I was thinking of the British connection. Cecile was Alexandra's great neice, her mother was Alice, daughter of Alexandra's oldest sister Victoria, of course granddaughter of Queen Victoria. Also, Cecile was Prince Phillip's big sister.

That picture is so sad, knowing what happened. It's good to see them though.
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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig (Ernie), Grand Duchess Eleanor (Onor) & family
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2004, 07:32:03 PM »
 :-*I read the bio of Ernie on the Time Machine and enjoyed it very much and was wondering when the
pictures of Ernies grave was going to be available or if I happened to miss them.

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig (Ernie), Grand Duchess Eleanor (Onor) & family
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2004, 10:19:03 AM »
I have been searching through the threads but haven't come across this question, so here goes.....are there any pictures of Ernie and Onor's wedding?  I have seen several of Ernie and Ducky.  Also, in one of the initial responses in this thread it says that this board is not equipped for pictures...is this still the case?  Thanks in advance!

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig (Ernie), Grand Duchess Eleanor (Onor) & family
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2004, 12:37:48 PM »
Eleonor of Solms:

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig (Ernie), Grand Duchess Eleanor (Onor) & family
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2004, 09:20:07 PM »
Who is the relative of the Hesse Kassel family that inherited the Hesse Darmstadt homes, art, treasures, etc.? Was it Prince Ranier, nephew of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh.

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig (Ernie), Grand Duchess Eleanor (Onor) & family
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2004, 10:04:13 PM »
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Who is the relative of the Hesse Kassel family that inherited the Hesse Darmstadt homes, art, treasures, etc.? Was it Prince Ranier, nephew of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh.


Isn't Prince Moritz the one who was 'adopted' by Ludwig & Margaret to become the head of the Hesse family? I would think that he would have gotten at least the bulk of what there was--separate from personal bequests and what may have been left to the state or country for historical purposes. And, as shown in another discussion re: Ella's aquamarine tiara, some items had been given to other Hessian relatives over the years.
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