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Re: Chronology of the Travels of Nicholas II as Tsar and Tsarevich
« Reply #90 on: September 13, 2013, 03:52:37 PM »
Also Nikolai Sablin in his "10 year on the imperial yacht Standart" mentions this visit.

A swedish article by an anarchist pamphlet press tells the story of the Wång attentate: June 26th the tsar and his entourage arrived in Stockholm and had dinner at the palace. It did not last long in the evening, the tsar retired early. Three high officials, major-general Beckman, captain Dahlgren and captain Hermelin decided to continue the evning in Grand Hotel (where Obama stayed last week) opposite the palace. Around midnight they left the hotel, Hermelin in one direction, Beckman and Dahlgren in the other, through the park Kungträdgården. As a polite gesture to the tsar, Beckman was dressed that evening in a russian admiral costume. We do not know why, but Hjalmar Wång was hiding and waiting in ths park.Probably he had realized it was not able for him to get close to the tsar and instead decided to save the world from a high russian officer, not knowing that this russian officer was a swedish major-general. Beckman and Dahlgren, both a little drunk, do not notice Wång. Then a shot and Beckman falls. A second shot misses Dahlgren and hits some K.P. Levander who happens to pass by. He is not hurt severely. The third shot Hjalmar Wång aims at himself. He is badly wounded and would die the next day.......   

I stand partially corrected.  Nicholas spent one day in Stockholm to visit the King of Sweden at the Palace. They were on the Standart returning from Finland.  They were there overnight from June 20-21 OS 1909 and then went to Peterhof June 22 OS.  Spiridovitch "Les Derneires Annees" Vol I pg 321.

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Re: Chronology of the Travels of Nicholas II as Tsar and Tsarevich
« Reply #91 on: September 13, 2013, 03:59:26 PM »
23   March 1890             Mathilde's Kschessinska's graduation

17   July 1890                Krasnoe Selo

October 1890:               leaves Gatchina 23rd for tour of East etc
                                   Austria:  Vienna
                                   Trieste (rendezvous with George Alexandrovich; 
                                   departure for Greece)
                   

 7 November 1890         Italy - Trieste (departure for Greece)

November                     Greece: Olympia

                                    Athens - to pick up Prince George of Greece (departed,
                Nov. 7th)           

               Egypt:           Cairo
                                 
                                   Nile Cruise through Luxor, the Valley of the Kings, etc as
                                   Far as Aswan
                                                   
                                   Memphis
 
                                   Suez
                       
                                   Aden

                           
December 18::   India    Bombay  (now Mumbai)
                                   Elephanta (Hindu temples)
                                   Roaza (hunting), Dalautabad, Ellora (temples)
                                   Gujerat: Ahmedabad, Palanpur (Islamic culture)
                                   Rajputana: Jodhour, Ajmer, Jaipur, Alwar (temple and  fortresses of the Rajput warrior caste)
                                   Delhi


January 1891: India still:
                                   Punjab: Lahore, Amritsar, Mathura, Sikranda (Sikh temples and monuments and the remnants of Moghuls                                    including the Taj Mahal
                                   Gwalior
                                   Kanpur  (memorials to the 1857 mutiny)
                                   Benares  (holiest city)
                                   Calcutta (British capital)
                                   Bombay (to say goodbye to George, who was sick)
                                   Madras
                                   Trichinopoly (temples)
                                   Madura (before departing for Ceylon)

January 30th:                Tuticorin, India (for departure to Ceylon).
                         
                                   Sri Lanka (known as Ceylon) - Colombo - Kandy (Temple of the Tooth) - Nuwara Eliya (Queen's Cottage) - Urdogawatta                                               
                                   Singapore

                                   Indonesia (the Dutch East Indies):  Batavia (now known as Jakarta), Bogor (colonial hill station), Papandayan (volcano), Bandung (ancient capital)


March 1891:                 Siam  (now known as Thailand): Bangkok, Bang-pa-in (summer palace), Ayuthaya (ancient capital; there are loads of different ways to spell this and I am not yet sure which is correct now)

                                   Vietnam (French Indo China) - Saigon

                                    Hong Kong

                                   Japan - Tokyo, Nagasaki, Kyoto

29  April 1891               Japan - Otsu

31  May  1891              Vladivostok - to lay the corner stone of the Trans                 
                                   Siberian passenger station

4    August 1891           Krasnoe Selo to be reunited with his parents after the
                                   Saber incident                                       

10  March 1892            Ballet School Graduation

11 March 1892             first visit to MK's house nearby Krasnoe Selo

16 March 1892             St Petersburg

13 January 1893          Berlin for Margaret's wedding (to sound Alix out - he
                                  didn't get to talk to her)

13 March 1893            Crimea

20 June 1893              London, for George and Mary's wedding

10 August 1893           Denmark

2 April 1894                Coburg for Ducky and Ernst's wedding (and to pester
                                 Alix)

20 April 1894              Betrothal to Alix announced

03 June 1894              England

     July 1894              St Petersburg

14 November 1894     Marriage to Alexandra

15 November 1895     birth of Olga Nicholaevna

14 May 1986              Coronation - Moscow


1896 Aug.                  Austria/Hungary (Vienna)
         Sept.                Denmark (Copenhagen)
         Sept/Oct           Great Britain (Aberdeen, Balmoral)
         Oct.                 France (Paris, Versailles)
         Oct.                 Germany (Darmstadt)

1901 Sept. 18-21        France (Compiegne)
                                Denmark (Copenhagen)

1903                         Hesse - Darmstadt - (for the wedding of Alice of
                                Battenberg)

                                Austria - Vienna - Muerzsteg -

                                Germany - Wiesbaden - Skienewice (little Elizabeth of           
                                Hesse  Died)

1909   June               Sweden  (Stockholm). June 20-21
          July                Germany   (Kiel)
                                France     (Cherbourg)
                                England - Cowes Regatta
       
          Oct.                Italy (Racconigi)

1910 July                  England - Cowes Regatta


1910   Aug.               Germany (Friedberg, Darmstadt, Hamburg, Potsdam)

                                Latvia - (Riga)

1913 May                  Germany (Berlin)

1914   June               Romania (Constanza)

1915                         Baranovichi (Stavka)
                                  Sebastopol

                    In the end of December, Nicholas leaves to new city of Russian Headquarters near the Dnieper River bank - Mogilev, returns back to Tsarskoe Selo in the spring of 1916.

1916 16 Dec. Orsha. Breakfast with 3 Englishmen, Frenchmen and even 3 rumyi [?]  Aleksey played.

 17 Dec.        Always in the railroad car. Tea with staff, conference.

 18 Dec.        Report of Lukomskogo. Then to session with glavnokmand {?}

 19 Dec.        Always in railroad car with Aleksei and daughters, then they went home.  Protopopov at dinner.

 20 Dec.        Daytime with children. Trepova,
 
21 Dec.         ENTIRE family, photographs. Then BURIAL of Rasputin. [Grigoriya] Reports from Shakovskogo & Ignatiev.
 
 22 Dec.        Sandro. Patron Saint Day of Anastasia.  Mordvinov.  Protopopov,   Pokrovski.
 

23 Dec.        Voyeykov then the barge [? in December??]  Protopopov

24 Dec         With daughters to end of mass & vespers. Breakfast Sabin. V.  Kochubeya. Dinner with Anya & N. P. Zanimalsy
 
25 Dec.         Mass 2 hrs.  Regiments. 5pm Protopopov. Family of deceased Grigory [evening] in Ani. [?, but I assume AV cottage]

 26 Dec.       morning- Grigorovicha & Rittikha.  Railroad regiment sang chorus.  Jaunt with children and dinner with Mordvinov.
 
 27 Dec.        Reports Shuvayeva & Bulygina.


1916             Mogilev   (Stavka)
 
16 May 1916 Evpatoria (South Crimea)


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Re: Chronology of the Travels of Nicholas II as Tsar and Tsarevich
« Reply #92 on: September 13, 2013, 04:38:55 PM »
Do we know of any foreign countries that Nicholas had planned to visit but never had the chance to? Trips that either were cancelled for one reason or another or perhaps destinations he longed to see but was never able to fit it into his schedule?

As Наследник Норвежский (Heir to Norway) and всея северныя страны Повелитель (Master of all the Northern Regions, similar to Finland's proposed Pohjolan isäntä), one imagines he was curious to visit Norway and the North Cape (perhaps even ancient Norwegian Arctic dominions like Greenland and Spitsbergen, made famous by Nansen), but unlike many of his royal contemporaries, he never did.

BTW did he ever visit Velikaya knyaginya Maria Pavlovna's homeland Mecklenburg, arguably the Western European country which ressembled Russia the most in terms of politics, economy and reactionary backwardness, but still being more prosperous, advanced and modernized than Russia, was a kind of model of what Russia could aspire to be, as NII's ideal agrarian autocracy.

1909   June               Sweden  (Stockholm). June 20-21
          July                Germany   (Kiel)
                                France     (Cherbourg)
                                England - Cowes Regatta
One presumes the Герцог Шлезвиг-Голстинский (Gertsog Schlesvig-Golsteinskiy) cruised through his ancestral duchies on the recently-built Kaiser-Wilhelm (Kieler) Canal on the trip from the Baltic to the North Sea?
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Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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Re: Chronology of the Travels of Nicholas II as Tsar and Tsarevich
« Reply #93 on: September 14, 2013, 03:25:25 AM »
Yes, you are right, Forum Admin. I missread Sablin. They stayed one night in Stockholm, aboard the Standart. He, however, mentioned that the next day they visited the King's palace Drottningholm, and only the next day left for Finland.

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Re: Chronology of the Travels of Nicholas II as Tsar and Tsarevich
« Reply #94 on: September 14, 2013, 09:02:44 AM »
Do we know of any foreign countries that Nicholas had planned to visit but never had the chance to? Trips that either were cancelled for one reason or another or perhaps destinations he longed to see but was never able to fit it into his schedule?

As Наследник Норвежский (Heir to Norway) and всея северныя страны Повелитель (Master of all the Northern Regions, similar to Finland's proposed Pohjolan isäntä), one imagines he was curious to visit Norway and the North Cape (perhaps even ancient Norwegian Arctic dominions like Greenland and Spitsbergen, made famous by Nansen), but unlike many of his royal contemporaries, he never did.

BTW did he ever visit Velikaya knyaginya Maria Pavlovna's homeland Mecklenburg, arguably the Western European country which ressembled Russia the most in terms of politics, economy and reactionary backwardness, but still being more prosperous, advanced and modernized than Russia, was a kind of model of what Russia could aspire to be, as NII's ideal agrarian autocracy.

1909   June               Sweden  (Stockholm). June 20-21
          July                Germany   (Kiel)
                                France     (Cherbourg)
                                England - Cowes Regatta
One presumes the Герцог Шлезвиг-Голстинский (Gertsog Schlesvig-Golsteinskiy) cruised through his ancestral duchies on the recently-built Kaiser-Wilhelm (Kieler) Canal on the trip from the Baltic to the North Sea?
Yes, they sailed through the Kiel Canal.

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« Reply #95 on: September 14, 2013, 01:49:55 PM »

1916 16 Dec. Orsha. Breakfast with 3 Englishmen, Frenchmen and even 3 rumyi 3 men from RUMANIA[?]  Aleksey played.

 17 Dec.        Always in the railroad car. Tea with staff, conference.

 18 Dec.        Report of Lukomskogo. Then to session with glavnokmand The commander in chief{?}

 19 Dec.        Always in railroad car with Aleksei and daughters, then they went home.  Protopopov at dinner.

 20 Dec.        Daytime with children. Trepova TREPOV
 
21 Dec.         ENTIRE family, photographsNO, NEAR THE BUILDING OF PHOTOGRAPHS . Then BURIAL of Rasputin. [Grigoriya] Reports from Shakovsky & Ignatiev.
 
 22 Dec.        Sandro. Patron Saint Day of Anastasia.  Mordvinov.  Protopopov,   Pokrovski.
 

23 Dec.        Voyeykov then the barge BARK, a man[? in December??]  Protopopov

24 Dec         With daughters to end of mass & vespers. Breakfast Sabin. V.  Kochubeya. Dinner with Anya & N. P. Zanimalsy
 
25 Dec.         Mass 2 hrs.  Regiments. 5pm Protopopov. Family of deceased Grigory [evening] in Ani. Of course AT ANIA'S[?, but I assume AV cottageYES]

 26 Dec.       morning- Grigorovich & Rittikh.  Railroad regiment sang chorus.  Jaunt with children and dinner with Mordvinov.
 
 


1916             Mogilev   (Stavka)
 
16 May 1916 Evpatoria (South Crimea)



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Re: Chronology of the Travels of Nicholas II as Tsar and Tsarevich
« Reply #96 on: July 03, 2014, 04:14:35 PM »
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« Reply #97 on: July 24, 2014, 04:46:46 PM »
I'll fill in what I have at hand.  Please cut and paste and add to it, so that the end result will be the completed chronology.   This list is only for while Emperor and only outside the Russian Empire.  If you want more detail let us know:

1896  Aug.   Austria/Hungary (Vienna)
         Sept.   Denmark (Copenhagen)
         Sept/Oct   Great Britain  (Aberdeen, Balmoral)
         Oct.     France  (Paris, Versailles)
         Oct.    Germany (Darmstadt)

1901  Sept.    France  (Compiegne)
                    Denmark (Copenhagen)

1909   July   Germany (Kiel)
                   France (Cherbourg)
                   England (Cowes)
          Sept.  Italy (Rome)

1910   Aug.    Germany (Friedburg, Darmstadt, Hamburg)

1913  May     Germany (Berlin)

1914   June    Bulgaria (Constanza)


Pardon  bringing up this old  post, but in trying to place Nicholas and family around the turn of the century recently, I found this. Is it possible Nicholas didn't travel outside of Russia, not even Germany or Denmark, for about eight years? This is odd. Any reason why?
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Re: Chronology of the Travels of Nicholas II as Tsar and Tsarevich
« Reply #98 on: July 24, 2014, 05:08:30 PM »
Pardon  bringing up this old  post, but in trying to place Nicholas and family around the turn of the century recently, I found this. Is it possible Nicholas didn't travel outside of Russia, not even Germany or Denmark, for about eight years? This is odd. Any reason why?

I might be wrong, but I'm guessing the Russo-Japanese War starting in 1904, and then the political situation in Russia between 1905-08 was so bad he couldn't go outside the country until tensions mellowed. He simply needed to be in Russia at all times.  

That's just my guess for those years but I don't really have any clue about the others, besides maybe the growing family between 1897-1900.
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« Reply #99 on: July 24, 2014, 05:17:47 PM »
Yes, Maria Sisi, I was thinking along those lines myself, but that leaves  three to four years unaccounted for, years which were fairly stable  both within Russia, and in likely countries to be visited. Also, though it was somewhat risky, Nicholas and his family traveled frequently within the Empire throughout those years.
In any case , that's a long time for him and Alexandra to be without contact with their German, English, and Danish relatives.(outside of Russia that is, where most of the family reunions were held. )
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Re: Chronology of the Travels of Nicholas II as Tsar and Tsarevich
« Reply #100 on: July 24, 2014, 06:11:26 PM »
1910   Aug.    Germany (Friedberg)

A serendipitous place for the Emperor of the North to stay - on a former Roman fortress close to the northernmost border (Limes) of the German Empire.
Do we know if they made an excursion to the Roman Limes, Germany's equivalent of Hadrian's Wall, in the Wetterau? It was just in the preceding years that the Roman Limes in the Taunus and Wetterau was being excavated, with the Kastell (castellum) Saalburg in Bad Homburg being reconstructed under the auspices of Emperor Wilhelm II from 1900 and onwards.

Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

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Re: Chronology of the Travels of Nicholas II as Tsar and Tsarevich
« Reply #101 on: July 26, 2014, 01:43:27 AM »
They visited Kastell Saalburg on 5/18 September 1910. [Source of information: Nicholas II's diary]
"The Correspondence of the Empress Alexandra of Russia with Ernst Ludwig and Eleonore, Grand Duke and Duchess of Hesse. 1878-1916"  -  http://www.bod.de/index.php?id=296&objk_
"Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig and Princess Alix of Hesse and by Rhine in Italy - 1893"

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Re: Chronology of the Travels of Nicholas II as Tsar and Tsarevich
« Reply #102 on: July 26, 2014, 03:35:54 AM »
They visited Kastell Saalburg on 5/18 September 1910. [Source of information: Nicholas II's diary]

Thanks, very interesting. Makes them appear like modern tourists who go there by busloads!
Берёзы севера мне милы,—
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Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

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Re: Chronology of the Travels of Nicholas II as Tsar and Tsarevich
« Reply #103 on: July 26, 2014, 10:03:28 AM »
Yes, Maria Sisi, I was thinking along those lines myself, but that leaves  three to four years unaccounted for, years which were fairly stable  both within Russia, and in likely countries to be visited. Also, though it was somewhat risky, Nicholas and his family traveled frequently within the Empire throughout those years.
In any case , that's a long time for him and Alexandra to be without contact with their German, English, and Danish relatives.(outside of Russia that is, where most of the family reunions were held. )

Why would you assume members of their family wouldn't go TO Russia to visit them?  Petersburg was much a cosmopolitan European capital as London, Berlin or Paris.  GD Ernst Ludwig spent a lot of time in those years visiting.  Look, Nicholas was not really prepared to rule and his father's death was sudden and unexpected.  He had a lot to do, to learn, and they were busy remodelling the AP and raising a new family.  I think it makes total sense for them to not travel for a couple of years and certainly the Russo-Japan war and first revolution would have put an end to most of their plans.

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« Reply #104 on: July 26, 2014, 11:59:21 AM »
Overall, there was more travel of the Romanov IF to their relatives outside Russia than the reverse, i.e., visits by the IF's European relatives TO them in Russia. This is a little counter-intuitive , since when the Romanovs traveled , it was with all seven of the family (or six prior to Alexei), and took a greater effort and larger entourage  and security than the visits, say,  of Grand Duke Ernest , or Victoria Melita,   or  Princess Irene , or the lesser Greek or  Danish princes or princesses for example.

Agreed, the Russo-Japanesse War and Revolution through 1906 would have curtailed IF European travel in those years.
Rodney G.