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Re: Was this room in the Alexander Palace?
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2007, 04:34:55 AM »
Это фото стоит в альбоме между такими, а они все из Царского Села:
It is a photo there are in an album between such, and all of them from Tsarskoe Selo:

Кухонный пруд
Kitchen pond
http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom-old-1-/5299.html

Кухонный пруд
Kitchen pond
http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom-old-1-/5302.html

Александровский дворец
Aleksandrovskiy a palace
http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom-old-1-/5308.html

Мост с драконами
The bridge with dragons
http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom-old-1-/5305.html
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Re: Was this room in the Alexander Palace?
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2007, 07:44:10 AM »
http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom-old-1-/5275.html

Окно какого зала дворца имело такую форму, как на заднем плане фото?
What window of a hall of a palace had such form, how on a background of a photo?

I believe it could be the AP, though I don't know exactly where, either. The window panes are 2x4, and the basement windows are also clearly visible behind Anya, O&A. Here are some more exterior photos for comparison of the proportions and positioning of the windows:




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Re: Was this room in the Alexander Palace?
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2007, 07:33:22 PM »
I'm confused where these pictures are at the Alexander Palace, Saruska?  The first one posted, I can't figure out even if that is the right side of the palace. 

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Re: Was this room in the Alexander Palace?
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2007, 10:35:51 PM »
I'm confused where these pictures are at the Alexander Palace, Saruska?  The first one posted, I can't figure out even if that is the right side of the palace. 

I've never been to the palace myself and all of these photos were culled from the AP threads, so here are my best guesses:

1. I *think* the first photo is the back of the left (Navy) wing -- the formal halls would be to the right, and the wing extending toward the left of the photo.

2. I believe the second photo is the inside/courtyard side of the Navy wing, or the outside of the IF's private wing. Both areas appear to have parking and electrical posts, but judging by the peeling paint in the photo I'd lean toward the Navy wing.

3. I'm not at all sure about the third photo, but if pressed I'd guess it was somewhere along the outside (non-courtyard) wall of the IF's private wing -- the condition of the paint looks to good to be anyplace else! Unfortunately I'm not familiar enough with the grounds to be able to place the little bit of fence that's visible in the foreground.

Here's a marked aerial photo to clarify my guesses:



You're correct that none of the contemporary photos I posted correspond to the location of the vintage picture Geglov posted of Anya, Olga & Tatiana. However, due to the symmetry of the palace and the similarities of the window proportions and positions, I think my photos prove that the building in the background of Geglov's photo must indeed be the AP.
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Re: Was this room in the Alexander Palace?
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2007, 12:58:26 AM »
1-я вид фасада выходящий на бывший садик Императора (Южный, ближе к Детскому пруду..
2-я вид фасада выходящего к Дворцовой улице.
3-я вид фасада выходящий на Детский пруд.

1-st kind of a facade leaving on was garden Emperor (Southern, is closer to the Children's pond).
2-nd kind of a facade leaving to Palace street.
3-rd kind of a facade leaving on the Children's pond.
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Re: Was this room in the Alexander Palace?
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2007, 11:56:25 AM »
http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom-old-1-/3537.html

Вполне возможно это окно библиотеки первого этажа.
This window of library of a ground floor is quite possible.
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Re: Was this room in the Alexander Palace?
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2007, 11:17:17 AM »
http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom-old-1-/6364.html

Скорее всего окно с парковой стороны, да и лестница там есть.
Most likely the window from the park party, and a ladder there is.
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Re: Was this room in the Alexander Palace?
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2008, 02:46:41 PM »


Окна внутренней стороны дворца.
Windows of the internal party of a palace.
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Re: Was this room in the Alexander Palace?
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2008, 11:12:15 AM »
http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom-2/2498.html

Кто-нибудь видел Алупкинский план дворца с Венецианским окном.
Somebody saw Alupkinskim the plan of a palace with the Venetian window.
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Re: Was this room in the Alexander Palace?
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2008, 08:35:05 PM »
Geglov,

Is there a venetian window in room 39 or 40 on right wing? It is part of series of photographs of AnnaV and GDs playing in the park area of childrens island.
Есть венецианское окно в комнате 39 или 40 на правом крыле? Это - часть ряда фотографий Аннав и ГДС, играющего в области парка острова чилдренс.
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Re: Was this room in the Alexander Palace?
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2008, 12:17:25 AM »
Да, только мне пока кажется что это левое крыло дворца (жилое).
Yes, only while the left side panel of a palace (inhabited) seems to me what is it.
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Re: Was this room in the Alexander Palace?
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2008, 06:26:13 AM »
ВЕНЕЦИАНСКОЕ ОКНО, двойное окно с колонкой посередине и двумя арочками наверху, объединенными одной общей аркой или треугольным фронтоном. Другое название - бифорий. В XV-XVI вв. такой тип оконного проема часто использовали в Италии, в архитектуре Венеции, отсюда название( словарь архитектурных терминов).

Следовательно, венецианское окно было в Полукруглом зале. Другие версии также принимаются к рассмотрению.

The VENETIAN WINDOW, double window with a column in the middle and to two арочками above, incorporated by one general arch or a triangular pediment. Other name - бифорий. In XV-XVI centuries such type of a window aperture often used in Italy, in architecture of Venice, from here the name (the dictionary of architectural terms).

Hence, the Venetian window was in the Semicircular hall.

Other versions also are accepted to consideration

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Re: Was this room in the Alexander Palace?
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2008, 03:05:06 PM »
http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom-old-1-/5275.html

Я думаю это оно,но оно явно не Полукруглом зале.
I think it it, but it is obvious not the Semicircular hall.
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Re: Was this room in the Alexander Palace?
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2008, 03:19:34 PM »
Once again closely having read through V.I.Yakovleva's 2 books about a palace at me only two variants:
1. A window in the Lilac boudoir of Empress (a window nearby Палисандровой a drawing room)
2. The color window a window was in the New cabinet of Emperor.
Debate should be continued.

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Re: Was this room in the Alexander Palace?
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2008, 02:43:39 PM »
http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom/6522.html
http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom-2/2632.html

С внутренней стороны, уже таких окон нет в 1930-40 годы.
From the inside, already such windows are not present per 1930-40.
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