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Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2007, 09:39:01 AM »
I think this is the chinese room which is under recreation...

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Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2007, 12:13:30 PM »
Thanks for posting the beautiful picture Vassili, I'd never seen one of the Chinese Room before.

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Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2007, 12:16:41 PM »
Absolutely beautiful.  Look at the funiture especially the middle rounded cushioned sofa.  What era does that date from?

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Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2007, 09:32:08 AM »
Another image of the chinese room...


I'm delighted Arleen to give you the occasion to dicover this image,I found it by chance on the net...


Lori,as far as I'macquainetd in art,sofas were one of the most important thing in the interiors (there was a huge developpement of such thing at that time) during the 2d Empire in France which correspond grossly to the reign of Alexander II,to my point of the design is typical of eclectism(1860-1880).

If you are interested ,I could "prove my point" with some documents.
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Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2007, 11:54:23 AM »
I am interested.  We have homes here in New Orleans with antique French Furniture that includes sofas of this kind. The ones I have seen dated a little after 1880 but thereabouts.

Regardless, I love that period furniture and design.

Thanks!

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Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2007, 11:11:42 PM »
The fashion of sofia continued until 1914(in the movies of Visconti such as Death in Venice it is well pictured),the high point was however in the 1870-1880 years...

Look at the Napoleon III's appartement in the  Louvreshttp://www.galerie.roi-president.com/album-22-louvre+appartement+napoleon+iii+tuileries+meubles+et+objets+royaux.html

http://pros.orange.fr/nunes.antiquites/le_style_napoleon_iii.htm
http://freenet.buffalo.edu/bah/a/archsty/sec/index.html

I hope this would cast some light on this fashion,I have documents thta I could scan next week,tell me..
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Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2007, 09:23:06 AM »
Thanks for the links!

Yes, this period is evidenced well after the turn of the century.  The wealthy french planters that settled in plantations near New Orleans have pieces extremely similar to those.

Any other pictures you have would be wonderful.  I would love to see more!

Thanks again,

Lori


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Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2007, 12:46:57 PM »
Thank you for the interesting links Vassili.

Lori, you live in my favorite American city....New Orleans!  What wonderful homes there are there.

Arleen

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Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2007, 01:19:14 PM »
I think this is the chinese room which is under recreation

Really? I did  not know but I am so glad to hear it

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Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2007, 04:30:29 PM »
Thank you for the interesting links Vassili.

Lori, you live in my favorite American city....New Orleans!  What wonderful homes there are there.

Arleen
Yes, with much French influences in architecture as well as furniture and decor.  Especially during the Era Vassili mentioned! :)

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Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2007, 12:23:29 PM »
Gleb ,

I may mistaken for the recreation of the chinese room however it seems to me that this was said in a russian document (sent in the first page of the topic)...

I hope anyway that it is true...

Vassia

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Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2007, 12:38:11 PM »
I think the palace Chapel is in a final stage of restoration. Hopefully it will be opened next summer.

Venois.

Interesting thing about the Palace Chapel, which is directly beneath the domes, is that most of it survived intact. Even the floors are original (at least from the mid-19th century, prior to the first great fire)... For some reason the Germans did not burn that part down when retreating in 1945... According to one of the CP museum curators, they used to use the chapel as a garage...

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Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2007, 02:01:39 PM »
Yes they did use the church as a garage and, like the Agate Rooms which was used as the officers' mess, it survived largely unscathed - desecrated, but the architectural features are extant.   Standing in the choir, I think of Nicholas II who, instead of as is customary, being a parent, leaving the church during the sacrament of baptism, stood in the choir to witness his first born, Olga, being christened.

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Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2007, 12:00:17 AM »
Thank you, Helen, for this encouraging information.

Agate rooms are going through restoration process too. It is actually very sad that they have not been restored since the war, despite the authenticity of the interiors. They are in a dilapidating condition right now. Hopefully this will be alleviated soon.
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Re: Catherine Palace Restoration
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2007, 04:29:22 AM »
Sorry Valois - give me 'dilapidated' over 'restored' any day.   Just so long as the structure is sound, I would much prefer to see interiors worn, aged and in the case of the Agate Rooms with a very moderate degree of vandalism (e.g. the medallions stolen from the fireplaces), but with atmosphere remaining, than restored until not one single iota of authenticity remains.

Of the entire Tsarskoe Selo ensemble, the Agate Rooms and the Palace Church are the only areas where one can actually feel the history.   Visitors should know the rest is an exercise in craftsmanship and the remarkable drive of human beings to overcome adversity in the rebuilding post WWII and soviet vandalsim/neglect.   Not that there is anything wrong with this, and it is superb... but not to the detriment of history.

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