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Re: Anna Leopoldovna, her son Ioann VI and other children
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2008, 08:13:07 AM »
Good day!
I search portraits of  Dss Elisabeth Katharina Christina of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, known as Anna Leopoldovna and her husband - Anton Ulrich, Duke of Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel.

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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2008, 08:59:17 AM »

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Re: Anna Leopoldovna, her son Ioann VI and other children
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2008, 05:04:34 AM »
So there is really no picture and no portraits of unhappy siblings - Ivan, Catherine, Elisabeth, Peter and Alexei?
Only of his father, Anton Ulrich of Brunswick?

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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2008, 07:47:34 AM »
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So there is really no picture and no portraits of unhappy siblings - Ivan, Catherine, Elisabeth, Peter and Alexei?

I can't imagine that anyone outside the immediate family would have wanted a record of how they looked - Elizabeth, Peter III, Catherine II and Alexander II all had really good reasons for letting them be forgotten and left unrecognised.  Under the circumstances, creating portraits would have looked dangerously like treason.

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Re: Anna Leopoldovna, her son Ioann VI and other children
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2008, 09:00:54 PM »
As I think I said in an earlier post, I did once see a copy of a painting in a book which showed the meeting between Ivan and Peter III.  I've tried to find out who the artist was but have never been able to do so.

But you're right, CountessKate, while they were alive it would have been very dangerous for anyone to express the desire to paint portraits of them.

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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2008, 03:40:31 AM »
Thahk you.

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Re: Anna Leopoldovna, her son Ioann VI and other children
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2010, 03:59:01 PM »
Ученые сообщают о находке останков императора Иоанна VI

Российские ученые объявили об обнаружении в Холмогорах останков императора Иоанна VI. «Вероятность того, что останки являются подлинными, эксперты оценивают как чрезвычайно высокую», – заявил руководитель поисковой группы Анатолий Каранин.
По его словам, останки были обнаружены в ходе поиска тайного захоронения генералиссимуса Антона Ульриха Брауншвейгского, похороненного в 1776 году в селе Холмогоры Архангельской области у церкви Успения Богородицы. Поиски проводились из-за возможной утраты останков в связи со сносом водонапорной башни, построенной на фундаменте разрушенной церкви.
Среди древних захоронений архангельские археологи обнаружили саркофаг с останками молодого человека, на левой лопатке которого отчетливо был виден шпажный прокол. Учитывая эти обстоятельства и архивные данные, ученые предположили, что обнаружено захоронение старшего сына генералиссимуса – Иоанна Антоновича (Иоанна VI), которого могли привезти в Холмогоры, где еще содержалась его семья. Последующая экспертиза доказала справедливость этой версии по 25 признакам.
Иоанн VI, император из династии Романовых, родился 23 августа 1740 года в Петербурге. После смерти императрицы Анны Иоанновны двухмесячный сын принцессы Анны Леопольдовны и принца Антона Ульриха Брауншвейгского, а также праправнук царя Алексея Михайловича, был провозглашен императором России Иоанном VI. Регентом при младенце-императоре был назначен Курляндский герцог Бирон.
Однако царствование Иоанна Антоновича было недолгим: через 404 дня дочь Петра I Елизавета Петровна совершила дворцовый переворот, и вся семья Иоанна VI была отправлена в ссылку, конечным пунктом которой стали Холмогоры. Малолетний Иоанн был навсегда разлучен с родителями.
Двенадцать лет он прожил в Холмогорах в одиночном заключении, а в начале 1756 года был вывезен в Шлиссельбург. Простые солдаты и офицеры, вынужденные стеречь свергнутого государя, относились к нему с состраданием и даже обучили его грамоте, вопреки запрету.
В возрасте 16 лет Иоанна Антоновича перевезли в одиночную камеру в Шлиссельбургской крепости из-за боязни его повторного возведения на престол. В 1764 году, уже при Екатерине II, поручик Василий Мирович предпринял попытку освобождения молодого человека, которая, однако, обернулась гибелью для Иоанна VI: он был заколот своими тюремщиками. После отпевания тело узника вывезли в неизвестном направлении.
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Re: Anna Leopoldovna, her son Ioann VI and other children
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2011, 04:59:36 AM »
Yes, the childrens' fate is particularly hard, especially as they seem to have been decent, kind and modest people, who might have been good rulers and governors. Although they were not provided with any tutors, they learnt to read and write by themselves. Their fate is tragic.

During her mother’s arrest, Ekaterina was knocked to the ground, leaving her deaf and with a stutter. Elizaveta, who most closely resembled their mother, fell from a stone staircase at the age of ten and often suffered from migraines, particularly during bad weather. A childhood injury left Peter hunch-backed and crooked on one side.

Prince Anton Ulrich petitioned Catherine the Great in May 1768, asking to be allowed to go abroad with his family. He did not receive any answer and died blind in 1774. The former regent’s husband was secretly buried in the courtyard. His grave is unknown.

In 1780, Catherine II allowed the rest of the family to go to Denmark to live with their aunt, Queen Juliane. They were provided with money and allowed to settle in the town of Horsens. The queen did not wish to see her Russian relatives, however, and they were mistreated by their Danish servants. Regretting ever having left Russia, they died in quick succession – Elizaveta in 1782, Alexei in 1787 and Peter in 1789. They were given a Russian Orthodox funeral in the local Lutheran chapel.

Ekaterina lived the longest. When Tsar Alexander I inherited the throne in 1801, she wrote to him, asking to be allowed to return to Russia and enter a convent. She received no reply and died in Denmark in 1807.
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Re: Anna Leopoldovna, her son Ioann VI and other children
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2011, 07:02:44 AM »
I found this article by Charlotte Jensen about them and Horsens as a place in Danish,so I will post  just google translate,so don't mind errors:


Commented excerpts of "The Russian princely courts in Horsens 1770 to 1807 and its members and the family's former life and captivity in Russia", compiled and edited by HE Friis. Copenhagen, Alfred Harvest and Søn 1895; supplemented with information from Otto Norn: Harsdorf and Palais in Horsens (annals published by Historical Society of Aarhus Diocese, 1938, p. 92-118) and from "Portraetmalerens Diary 1793-97" ( memoirs and letters VI, 1907) by Hans Hansen.

In my Mom, Gudrun Kaalund Nissen's genealogy stands, a sister to our great-great grandfather, Maren Kaalund, was maid of honor at the Russian court in Horsens. As the story of this court, its people and their fate is pretty inaccessible, I will try to retell it here.

From 1730 to 1740 ruled the Empress Anna Ivanova, daughter of Peter the Great's older daughter, over Russia. Since she had no heirs, she chose as her tronfoelgerske soesterdatter Anna Leopoldovna she did marry Prince Anton Ulrich of Brunswick, a brother of Juliane Marie, Frederik V's second queen. They were married 1739, and 1740 gave birth to their first son, Ivan, the next czar. Shortly after the dead Empress Anna, and Anna Leopoldovna was appointed regent to his son's behalf.

Already the following year took Peter the Great's younger daughter Elisabeth power through a palace revolution that deposed the little czar, and imprisoned him and his parents and their newborn daughter Katharina. They were sent into exile until a secret place in Latvia since the fortress Dunamunde at Riga, where her daughter Elisabeth was
born 9.1.1743. Finally moved the 1744 to an abandoned bishop residences in Cholmogory south of Archangelsk. Here were the small former czar separated from his parents and brothers and sisters whom he - even though they lived at opposite ends of the house - never saw more.

Bishopric was a two-storey building with 20 rooms, surrounded by walls and fencing. Inside the gate was built on a building boxes for a command of 36 soldiers and 4 officers. House and farm were divided into two completely separate departments. In all the years the family lived here, they came not outside this area, and they may not associate officer families. Teaching was not allowed, not even reading and writing, and no language. Their stay place was kept strictly secret, as Ivan course could claim the Russian throne, nor met with the staff leave the premises, even when their service ended.
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« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2011, 07:03:14 AM »
Prince Anton Ulrich and Anna Leopoldovna got here 2 sons, Peter 1745 and 1746 Alexei, but Anna died after the last birth, and Anton Ulrich sat alone with four small children.

The oldest, Catherine, was deaf from 8-years of age and stuttered, but she knew sign language and spent mundaflaesning. Elizabeth was fairly normal, although she, as 10-year had knocked her head badly, she led as a rule, the word for themselves and their collaterals. Peter had humpback and crooked legs, he was a timid nature, while Alexei was more sensible. The four siblings came along well with each other; summer feeding the geese and ducks and worked in the overgrown garden, where there were some birketraeer and a muddy pond, in winter they glided on the ice on the pond and drove otherwise the time with card games and solution in the Russian ecclesiastical books, the only permissible reading material. The princesses also made a deal. Someone must after all have taught them something, perhaps their father and the female servants.

1756 Ivan was transferred to a prison in Sclusselburg. His childhood was miserable, he stammered and made an impression of being an idiot. 1764 some officers tried to free him, but his guards had orders to kill him in such an experiment, and they did.

1762 dead Empress Elisabeth, but her predecessor Peter the 3.die relieved not trapped fate. He was overthrown that same year of Catherine the Great, who even after Ivan's death would not let Prince Anton Ulrich and his children leave their captivity. In 1774 the prince died, but until 1780 they managed to get the Empress Katharina's permission to release the four children. They chose as their new residence location Denmark, after Catharine had contacted Anton Ulrich's sister, Queen Dowager Juliane Marie, who suggested Horsens as a safe exile.

The four princes and princesses were now equipped with all kinds of garments and fur, a full tailoring at 57 man was created, and linens, soelvservice, china and linen purchased and received from the Russian court a apanage of 32000 rubles. People were still people fear that they would be exploited by intrigue mongers at court, so rather than take the short way to Denmark to St. Petersburg, they were secretly sailed north of Dvina to the White Sea with their serving staff, courtiers and priest. Here they came aboard the frigate "Polstjerne" which first July 1780 sailed north of Norway to Bergen, where they arrived the 10th September after a stormy and strenuous journey. They were handed over to the Danish authorities and sailed on 23 September to Denmark the warship "Mars" and it arrived Fladstrand (later Frederikshavn) 5 October.

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« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2011, 07:03:53 AM »
There were princes and princesses told that they were separated from their whole Russian team (except the priest and two singers), a decision was taken by the Dowager Queen Juliane Marie and not by the Empress Catherine. It came as a Hoerdt blow for the four collaterals, it was the people they had known for many years and who could speak Russian, their only language, also had two of the girls their halvsoestre, children of Anton Ulrich, born after his wife's death. The two halvsoestre was sent back to Cholmogory where they might be the rest of their lives, they get a lifelong pension.

Meanwhile, in Horsens bought two goerde with gardens on the church square, and the architect CF Harsdorf converted them into a long story mansion for the Russian court. There were two floors with over 50 vaorelser in the main building as well as in house domestik rooms, stables and outbuildings. North side turned towards the square, along the west side was the entrance to the building's only entrance, which were guarded by a porter, a schweitser and a guard of a corporal and 6 riders. Planlaesningen was special, Prince of the room was far away from the entrance, and access to the main staircase was besvaerliggjort by boarded up door in addition to.

Harsdorf also stood for furnishing and suggested including the purchase of a throne (for 4 people?), 4 and 8 herskabssenge best citizen beds besides domestiksenge, each for two people. From Frijsenborg got a pool and two hospitalized rosentraesspilleborde. Furniture, linens, silverware and paintings came by ship from the court's store in Copenhagen, while locally purchased utensils and fruit trees, shrubs and bulbs to the garden where there were two gazebos, one made by a Turkish tent, and a pergola of 24 subjects .; who was hired a knowledgeable garden lackey. The wagons were 3 coaches, a phaeton, a hunting trailer and a kabriolet, served 12 horses, and joined a team of local service staff of 30 people besides hofchef, hofmesterinde and maids, etc. A large supply of food and wine purchased and taken delivery contracts for firewood, fodder for
horses, etc. Even a Greek-orthodox chapel was room for Harsdorf had seen a Russian church in Rome and decorated it then, but when popen arrived, he was more than unhappy and demanded costly changes. Total cost the palace and its interior 60,000 Rdl. That the Danish government put out. It was suggested Empress Catherine an installment agreement, but she immediately paid the entire sum.

The Russian company spent three days in Aalborg to rest after the voyage and stayed in several places on the road to Jaipur, where they arrived on 13 October. The first time was not easy, every night barricaded the four collaterals their doors for fear of being assassinated, like their brother.

After they had been in Horsens in a month, came the Queen Dowager Juliane Maries son, Crown Prince Frederik of visits. It was not a fruitful meeting, the princesses were not healthy, and the princes closest afraid of their cousin. Yet it was the first relatives that had ever appeared, so they received him with kisses, tears and embraces. Hereditary Prince became aware of language difficulties, so there was employed a Russian-language expert master who would teach them German. The princesses were very laerevillige while the princes, especially Peter, did not care much about having to sit on skolebaenken. Better was that there were three horses from the royal stables. For winter use built builder Kruse a riding house, which was leased to the court. There was established a "Carousel with Tridser, Bridles and accessories" to the delight of princes. Mrs. Russia was brought a very beautiful sleigh equipment that was used extensively during the winter.

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« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2011, 07:04:28 AM »
Gradually fell quiet over the little court, who was hired a Russian-speaking maid for the deaf people Katharina and princesses ridden in the area, while the princes took part in the hunt at the manor countries. However, none of them had to move alone, visit someone in Horsens town or spend a night elsewhere than in the palace, but should be home before noon. 10; you were still worried about the political dangers of their stay in Denmark.

There were ample funds to red for their stay, but the four siblings had not had money to spend before, so they were administered by the Danish hofembedsmaend who sent a strict accounting of Copenhagen. Through these accounts we obtain considerable insight into daily life at the Russian court. Moreover, the officials visited weekly report to the queen in Copenhagen on the situation at court.

Although the Russian princes and princesses lived under much better conditions than the previous 40 years, so they felt strongly that they were in exile and very isolated, so strong that they sometimes expressed that harking back to their prison, which however, were in their home country Russia. But as they gradually learned to speak and write German fairly and could Feore a correspondence with their Aunt Juliane Marie and relatives in Germany, they began to fall in Horsens. Prince Peter had seen a monkey somewhere and wished himself such a one to its entertainment, with some difficulty, was acquired forward "with the corresponding chain, clothes, and Bur, and a small cannon to fire." It cost 10 dollars, but the audit chagrin took the skipper that brought it from Copenhagen, 5 dollars for transportation under the pretext that there had purchased baked goods to the monkey.

In the garden there was a deer and a black grouse and a hoensegaard. The painter Hans Hansen, Constantin Hansen's father, portrayed a part of court staff and other prominent horsensianere in 1794, says that one day he was surprised by Prince Peter in the palace cherry. Birthdays and holidays were celebrated with festivals and poetry; to Juliane Maries birthday embroidered princesses a sypose to the aunt with a sunflower blossom as a symbol of their freedom and sent a poem in German.

Princess Elizabeth was the one who led the floor for her siblings, she was more outgoing than the others, showing also the most intelligent, so it was a hard blow when she died already oktober 1782nd She was buried in Horsens convent church with much pomp and ceremony, the headmaster at Horsens latin school held a pompous speech, later printed, and there was written an elegy. In the early 18th century versions are a very romantic novel about the princess's life, but with little basis in reality.

Alexei was ill in the autumn of 1787 and got it fixed idea that he would not survive on 20 October, the day his sister died five years earlier. He died, however, was only on 22 October and was buried with the same ceremonial as the princess.

In 1788 got the small court visit of Crown Prince Frederik and Crown Prince Frederik in two days. It was very tiring for the lady when all conversation had to go through her. The banquet was the lady opposite the Princess's room, so Catherine could follow her foot movements. Lady writes: "Princess Catherine was wearing an exquisite toilette from Paris and accustomed themselves to this day the king later unchanging grace."

There was much demand for the female employees at the court, from maids to wash the girls looked bride gifts and equipment were gradually so great a major cost item in the budget that one year even had to borrow from the Danish Treasury.

1796 dead Dowager Queen Juliane Marie and Empress Catherine, and the responsibility of the court passed to Crown Prince Frederik, who announced that the support from Russia would also continue under the new regime. The next year was Prince Peter fell ill and died in January 1798th
   
So when the princess Catharine was alone, she consorted more with people in Horsens and surroundings, she could suffer from having guests and playing cards. Her final years marred by a laborious as pope, who in her name, wrote a letter to the Russian court, in which she complained that her Danish team deceived her and kept her in captivity who could recall the time in Cholmogory. The Russian POPs were mostly self-fingers in the princess's money bag. It came, however, until the day a couple of generations later.

It was supposed to Crown Prince Frederik was to inherit his Russian relatives, and as there was only one left, there was some money left on the annual accounts, as hereditary prince had repeatedly anticipated inheritance. He visited his cousin the last time 1803, and now dropped the conversation a lot easier, and understood both German princess and when some Danish, and there were now more skilled interpreters at court. After his death 1805 took his son Prince Christian, later Christian, 8, responsible for the court together with the right of inheritance, however, cut back by the fact that hereditary prince had contracted a debt to the Russian court on over 100,000 rdl

In April 1807 dead princess Katharina, missed by people in Horsens, against whom she had been very benevolent and generous. The Russian court in Horsens was settled, but it took a long time, partly because of the political situation, but also because the proceedings were very thorough. It was awarded generous pensions from Russia to current and former employees and their families, for example, had yet hofintendants v. Hauch grandchild support from Russia to their death at the end of the century.

The mansion in Horsens caused Prince Christian anguish, it was not to sell because of the bad times during the war; later, he needed it because his former wife, Princess Charlotte Frederica was in exile from 1810-29. It has since been demolished. Horsens has not quite forgotten the Russian court, who in 2006 wrote a new book: The food at banquet tables, chamber Borg and kitchen, food and eating at the Russian court in Horsens 1780-1807 by Bodil Moeller Knudsen.

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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2011, 07:17:45 AM »
Here are some even bigger links about them and with pictures and plans of their palace in Danish,so if anyone has time and wants to read using google translate or any other online translator,here it is:

http://www.horsensklostersogn.dk/historie/russ-hist.html

http://www.horsensklostersogn.dk/historie/russ-hist2.html

http://www.horsensklostersogn.dk/historie/russ-hist3.html

http://www.horsensklostersogn.dk/historie/russ-hist4.html

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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2011, 07:30:50 AM »
Again,translated from the article about the deafness of Princess Catharina:

"The deafness is something of a problem.

Well, it does not appear to be something very much problem, neither for Friis or Bruckner. But it's no wonder. They live both in a time when we had not seen the connection between deafness and language learning, as we have seen. But today we know that if it were, as Bruckner wrote somewhere that she was deaf from the age of nine month, she would have no language at all. It is therefore more natural that what she writes in the strange letter to Emperor Alexander is true, namely that she was deaf at eight years old.

But more: We know also that if she really was either completely deaf or hard of hearing so that she almost could not hear anything, so it would be impossible for her to learn any language. Mrs. Fabritius says that Princess Catharina was totally deaf, she spoke only Russian, because she had only had the opportunity to learn the Russian language in her captivity and that she interacted with "his" princess by standing in front of the princess and talk to her, the princess then repeated what you said to her, and only then could one be sure to have been correctly understood. (See letter!) With the knowledge we have today, we are forced to choose: Either Princess Catharina was not totally deaf, but has been able to hear the language's nuances clearly enough to imitate them with her voice so she could learn a new language, in this case German. Or else she has been totally deaf and could only learn to speak the languages ​​she already knew.

Apart from what is available, it can be difficult to determine for which of the two options you want to rely on. Contemporaries did not distinguish, and this is what is the difficulty. But given that the princess learned to play piano, a 15 small hand pieces that Mrs. Fabritius writes, we must now probably think that anything she may well have been able to hear. The same must be shown to conclude from the fact that her language teacher, secretary Kleen, read out to the princess or spoke with her two hours each morning, a record that lady, Miss Kaas, took over after the death of Kleene (Friis page 200).

And is it true that she also tried to learn to speak Danish, so it can probably be understood only if she could hear anything. But it is remarkable that none of the evidence available, says that they had to speak loudly to her. We would be natural if she was deaf. Likewise, it is a little odd that she, if deafness she suffers, not taking the trumpet to use as she was sent from Copenhagen. (Friis, page 130).

When it's pretty important to get cleared up, how much Princess Catharina could hear, it is because she has written a most mysterious letter to the Russian Emperor in 1803. This letter gave the end of the 1800s led to minor conflict between Russian and Danish scholars. The Russian priest Teofan, who arrived at court in 1802, seems to have been an important person in this letter. He handed it to the emperor when he went back to Russia. It was placed in a snuffbox, which the emperor received as a gift from the small Danish court, but it is uncertain whether it ever been read by the emperor. However, it was considered in the Russian archives sometime in the middle of the 1800s, and it was published in a Russian historical journal. From there, it was drawn by the Danish historical journal "Historical Archive", 1873, pages 521-529, and translated in its entirety. The publisher, CV Smith, believed that it set the Danish administration in a bad light, which certainly is not anything to say, the contents of the letter taken into account. But he was a year later refuted by FC Granzow. (Historical Archive, 1874, page 106-120). There was kept accurate accounting of every penny in a hofholdningen, he says, so it's been very difficult if not impossible, for any of hofpersonalet to acquire anything. Granzow draws even the letter's authenticity into doubt, at least he could wish to see the letter in kind to compare skrifttrækkene with letters found in the Danish archives containing princess Catherine font. And already Granzow mention the Russian priest Teofan or Feofan, as the real instigator of the strange letter.

The same Friis, and so far they can understand, he managed to get the German and Russian writers historian Bruckner to some extent to change position. In his book's first edition, he (p. 47) repeated the accusation that the Russian journal based on Catherine letter directing at the Danish hofbetjening. But later versions provide him with an epilogue that takes into account Granzows objections from an article in a Russian historical journal of a Mr. Grot. (Pages 133-137). Yet he goes no further than to say that the objections have emerged (on Princess Catherine satisfaction and hospitality and hilarity) easy to reconcile with the present letter.

It is now a claim, it is very hard to take seriously. On the contrary, Princess Catherine letter saying the opposite of what we otherwise know about conditions in Horsens. She calls straight Cholmogory a heaven and a hell Horsens. She claims that she cheated by the Danes, who surrounds her. She claims that they force her to write letters for a pension. She mentions that she wants to come back to Russia to end his days in a nunnery. One can see in the letter, which is "here", commented by me in accordance with what Friis write, so you can see how almost all points are in contrast to what might otherwise know about conditions at the court.

What is the problem, if the letter is genuine (which it probably is now) is how on earth this Russian priest Teofan, has managed Princess Catharina to write what she writes. One of the things that causes me to believe that it is probably true, the fact that it is written in a very clumsy Russian, something that also characterizes other letters from Princess Catharina, both in Russian and German. (See eg the letter to the lady Miss Sehestedt). And if it is true, then show the letter to the Russian minister has had a much greater power over the princess, than the Danes imagined. He has actually been able to get her to express himself, as she does with her own words, that is, he has been able to talk to her so strongly that she, at least for a time, was convinced that this was indeed himself, as he said.

This is probably again with the four siblings were raised in a completely different strong religious faith, than the Danes imagined, and therefore apparently retained this strong and fervent piety also in this country. They have therefore had a more close relationship with their pastors, than a 1,700-century Dane would have to his priest. And they have more readily relied upon a minister, than their Danish courtiers found advisable. At least when court vicar named Teofan.

Mention may also Friis reports (in passing) that Prince Alexei in autumn 1787 was the thought that he would not survive that day in October, at the Princess Elisabeth died. The idea occupied him more and more, and he recovered that reason not of his illness, although he did not die on 22 October, not 20, as he had predicted. Friis call it an obsession, and that's probably what today we would be inclined to call it. But the question is whether this idea is an expression of his deep piety, though this piety has a completely different look than we Danes are used to."