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Title: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on October 17, 2007, 09:15:28 PM
Starting a new section as her original is almost 40 pages.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olishka~ Pincess on October 20, 2007, 08:30:29 AM
Does William dare dump Kate again?
by GEOFFREY LEVY and RICHARD KAY - More by this author »
 
Last updated at 00:55am on 20th October 2007
 
The great Kate romance is back on. But William's aides fear that if he doesn't see it through,he'll be accused of behaving just like his father...

Prince William bears all the hallmarks of a contented man. At 25, he clearly carries none of the emotional baggage that has dogged the life of his father, Prince Charles. From January, his military career will move on smoothly from the Army to the RAF, then the Royal Navy. Plus, of course, his romance with Kate Middleton is on again. The last bit is making those perennial worriers, the Royal Family's stiff-collared and often incompetent advisers, decidedly uneasy.

Despite the apparent rubber-stamping of Kate by the Prince of Wales, no one pretends to be absolutely sure in which direction this extraordinary relationship is ultimately heading.

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Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olishka~ Pincess on October 20, 2007, 08:43:05 AM
Article continued...
There is real apprehension that should William dump Kate for a second time, the second in line to the throne risks being ridiculed, or even actively disliked, by the public for toying with her emotions.

For a young prince who could hold the future of the monarchy in his hands, this is no small matter.

Nor would this risk be mitigated by the belief, widely held in royal circles, that the comely Kate threw caution to the wind and inveigled her way back into the Prince's emotions. She, they insist now, is making all the running.

Kate's friends view things rather differently.

They see a prince who was dreadfully missing the bright and personable young woman with whom he was virtually living after meeting her at St Andrews University nearly five years ago.

"The split was almost like a divorce, and just as painful, despite all the pretence of still going to parties and clubs," says one close figure.

"And I honestly think that, emotionally, it affected him more than her. She's stronger than he is." During the weeks of their estrangement earlier this year, Kate's post-split nightclub sorties, her overt self-confidence and the flash of a large expanse of fishnet stocking - somehow exposed to the paparazzi as she laughingly stepped into a car with friends - all certainly grabbed William's attention. Some of his friends saw his reaction to her behaviour during that period mirroring the way that his eyes "came out on stalks" the first time he saw her close up, as she sashayed down the catwalk in a diaphanous dress at a university charity fashion show.

One headline shrieked: "This Is What William Is Missing."

And clearly, despite bravado shows of masculine independence and the cry of "I'm free" as he jumped on a table at their favourite London nightclub Boujis (where else?), he was suddenly alone, surrounded by sycophants and missing her in his life and in his bed.

From there, it was one small and simple step for a future King to extend a princely courtesy to his ex-girlfriend by inviting her to join him and friends at the Wembley Stadium concert in memory of his mother; and, in turn, for her an equally simple courtesy to accept.

They may not have been side by side in the royal box at the concert, but that was it.

The split was healed.

Since August, they've been together again and getting closer all the time, as their two sets of parents look on.

No parental approval could surely be more pointed, nor more relaxed, than Charles and Camilla's invitation to William to take Kate for the weekend to Scotland to join them at Birkhall, the house on the Balmoral estate that Charles inherited from the Queen Mother.

And there, Kate was photographed being drawn even more deeply into the royal world of country pursuits by joining William stalking. As yet, there do not appear to have been any matching weekend invitations from Kate's parents for William to visit their pleasant detached house in the village of Bucklebury, in Berkshire, although he has seen them socially. During his time at Sandhurst, he regularly drove the 30 miles to have supper with them.

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The couple met at St Andrews University nearly five years ago

The couple, who run an internet business selling children's party goods (including toy princesses), took a disgraceful and totally undeserved battering from some of the classridden 'hooray Henrys' in William's circle last spring, but only after it emerged that Kate and William were no longer seeing each other.

Particularly offensive were the sneering taunts of "doors to manual" about Kate, in reference to her mother's former job as an air stewardess and her father once being a pilot.

It seems that these people, most of whom have thus far achieved little more in life than birth itself, didn't approve of the Middletons' middleclass genes and habits. Their juvenile braying certainly did the monarchy no favours.

Wisely, after what happened last time, the Middletons are proceeding with caution. Even they are unable to predict with any certainty what the future holds for their elder daughter and her royal lover. "They are pretending not to be involved with what is developing," says one of their neighbours. "They're letting nature take its course."

Few will have forgotten that, last December, William pointedly - or so it seemed - invited Kate's parents to his passing-out Sovereign's Parade at Sandhurst. The couple sat on either side of their daughter, alongside William's godfather, ex-King Constantine of Greece, and later chatted to the Queen. They looked for all the world like William's putative parents-in-law. The couple had clearly been quite deliberately drawn into this important moment in the development of the future monarch. The arrival of the invitation from William, more than anything, was a potent indication that their daughter one day could be Queen.

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olishka~ Pincess on October 20, 2007, 08:45:57 AM
William is known for his stubbornness, but he would never have dared invite them without the approval of the Queen, who would have understood its significance.

Indeed, she is very fond of Kate and comfortable with her unassuming manner, in much the way she enjoys being with Prince Edward's wife, Sophie, whose father worked for a tyre firm.

But in the wake of this highly significant family tableau at the Royal Military Academy, and just when it was assumed that 'Princess Kate' was a done deal, two things happened.

One was that Kate, inadvertently, may have over-played her hand.

So sure of William, she confided to friends of a possible imminent engagement announcement.

The other was that he suddenly got cold feet.
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One of William's friends explained: "Suddenly, the enormity of what he was drifting into hit him - and hit him hard. It sort of woke him up to what was happening, and seemed to send him off the rails a bit."

This was the period when William was seen out partying and enjoying himself without Kate, and he allowed himself to be photographed with other girls.

William also confided his uncertainty to the Queen and Prince Philip. He wasn't sure that he "loved Kate enough".

The word "enough assumes real significance here, because he didn't say that he did not love Kate.

It was the degree of love he queried - rather poignant, coming from the son of a man who astonished the world by choosing the very day of his own engagement to Diana Spencer to pose the philosophical query: "Whatever love means...?"

When Kate learned of his uncertainty, her inevitable next step was to demand from William some kind of assurance about the future.

He couldn't give it. So they split.

Seeing them together now - or watching them, as fellow diners did, at Locanda Ottoemezzo, a popular neighbourhood restaurant in a quiet Kensington street just the other night - all that turmoil and uncertainty seems to be unreal, and very far away.

So is this the real thing?

When William was not gently cradling her head in his hands, they were holding hands.

And this, remember, is a couple who have been sharing their lives for more than four years. Not a new love, then, but perhaps a love which, having been tested apart, has found a new intensity.

Is William certain now? It looks that way.

But he is 25 and he has said, more than once, that he does not intend to marry before he is 30.

Presumably the next step will be for the couple to want to set up home together.

Edward and Sophie lived together (under the Queen's roof at Buckingham Palace), but for a future King to do so would require rather more thought and sensitive planning.

And don't underestimate the unique ability of most cackhanded royal advisers to mishandle matters.

Despite all the portents, William is still young enough to be revisited by an attack of cold feet.

He may have his mother's looks and be a popular prince, but if another break-up occurred, millions of women would see it as a case of "like father, like son".

How ironic it would be if he ended up taking the same kind of flak that rained on Prince Charles over the way he treated Diana.

"Oh please, not that," murmurs one courtier.

"He must never be like his father."

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olishka~ Pincess on October 27, 2007, 05:58:55 PM
William tells Kate: You're my bride, but not till 2009
By KATIE NICHOLL - More by this author »
 
Last updated at 22:13pm on 27th October 2007
 
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When Kate Middleton stayed at Birkhall with the Prince of Wales earlier this month, it was clear that Prince William's on-off girlfriend had been welcomed back into the Royal fold.


Clearly comfortable in the presence of Prince Charles, Kate joined the family deerstalking and sources were quick to speculate that it would be only a matter of time before William popped the question.

But sources close to William, a second lieutenant in the Household Cavalry, say that although the couple are dating again, Kate will have to wait until at least July 2009 to be his bride.

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Back together: The couple plan to wed in 2009


William is very happy at the moment and everything is great with him and Kate, but he's aware that now their romance is back on track all the speculation about a Royal wedding will start up again," says a friend.

"He and Kate have had a lot of discussions about their future together.

"William has told Kate he is in no hurry to get engaged and that while he does want to get married, he doesn't want to marry just yet.

"If William has his way there probably won't be a wedding until July 2009 when he finishes all his military training commitments.

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Back in the royal fold: Kate and William often discuss the future

"As long as Wills behaves himself, Kate will be happy to wait.

She's young and in love, but also not in any hurry to get married."

According to friends, the 25-yearold - who plans to quit her job as a buyer at High Street chain Jigsaw - has made William her sole focus since getting her Prince back.

"Kate played a blinder during their separation, with William eating out of her hand at the end," said one friend.

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Kate has William eating out of her hand


"Now they are back together her world revolves around him."

I'm also told the couple won't be spending Christmas together at Sandringham.

"Kate will be with her family and William with his, but they will make time to be together," said a friend.

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Alixz on October 27, 2007, 11:40:47 PM
Uh, just for no reason.  Wills looks drunk in that picture.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olishka~ Pincess on October 28, 2007, 08:16:57 AM
You can defantly tell, he is drunk by that expression in his face. They came, from the night club.
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This is a photo of Kate and Will taken Yesterday.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Janet on October 29, 2007, 08:08:59 AM

This is a photo of Kate and Will taken Yesterday.

Yesterday???  The Daily Mail published this picture last April http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=448508&in_page_id=1770 and indicated that it was taken in March 2006.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olishka~ Pincess on October 29, 2007, 08:13:25 AM

This is a photo of Kate and Will taken Yesterday.

Yesterday???  The Daily Mail published this picture last April http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=448508&in_page_id=1770 and indicated that it was taken in March 2006.
Oh, thanks for letting me know. Mistake, taken long ago. There is not any new pictures of them. I was quite unsure about it.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olishka~ Pincess on November 09, 2007, 05:35:33 PM
Kate quits her fashion job as rumours grow of an engagement
By REBECCA ENGLISH - More by this author »
 
Last updated at 09:00am on 9th November 2007
 
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Exit: Kate 'wants time to herself'

Kate Middleton has left her job in the fashion industry amid speculation that a royal engagement is on the horizon.



Prince William's 25-year-old girlfriend quit as an accessories buyer for High Street store Jigsaw after less than a year, telling friends she wants "some time to herself".



The friends suggest she wishes to travel or pursue a career in photography. However, staff at the company's headquarters in Kew, South-West London, have been told her job is being kept open for her should she wish to return.




Her decision to walk out on the role specially created for her by Jigsaw's owners, John and Belle Robinson, has raised eyebrows among staff given that she was required to work only four days a week to accommodate her royal boyfriend's schedule.



Kate started the job - her first since graduating from St Andrews University in June 2005 - last November after pressure from William.


It is understood he feared she was beginning to look like a footballer's wives-style figure, who did nothing all day but shop.


A fellow staff member said: "Kate is a nice enough girl but she was never what you might call committed to the job.


"She never worked full-time and appeared to take an inordinate amount of time off to go jetting round the world with her boyfriend.


"It certainly rubbed a few people here up the wrong way. To be told she would be resting for a while 'looking at other things' didn't exactly come as a surprise. She has always been treated as a special case."



Kate, who studied history of art at St Andrews University, where she met the prince, told fellow workers she was leaving on Thursday.



Bosses laid on a finger buffet featuring smoked salmon and bruschetta in the canteen before she left at 4pm to drink with friends from her department in the nearby Kew Gardens Hotel.


The leaving party was fairly low key and Kate was given an envelope of Jigsaw vouchers as a farewell present. She had the day off as usual on Friday before flying out of the country for a holiday.



One workmate said Kate had spoken at length about her interest in photography, adding: "When she was asked what she was off to do she said she was a photographer and she may open a gallery."



Several other royal girlfriends have developed an interest in the art, including Prince Andrew's ex-wife, the Duchess of York, and former girlfriend Koo Stark. Kate is more interested in artistic and still-life pictures rather than traditional portrait-style photography, however.


It is believed she has been offered a job selling luxury yachts from an office next to Clarence House, Prince William's London base.


But whatever career path she plumps for, the move provides Kate with some "breathing space" until an engagement is announced.



Friends suggest that may well take place at the beginning of 2009, once William, also 25, has completed his period of military service next year.


Sources close to the prince have expressed their irritation, however, that Kate appears to be so obviously preparing herself to become a princess.




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Wedding bells: Speculation William and Kate will get engaged is still rife


One said: "She just seems to be killing time until William finally pops the question, which seems a little desperate in this day and age."



All in all, it appears things are looking up for the middle-class girl from Berkshire, who has had something of a rocky 12 months in the romance stakes.


Earlier this year, the couple's relationship lay in tatters after the second-in-line-to-the-throne got cold feet about their four-year romance.


But six weeks of watching his ex-girlfriend flaunt herself in a series of revealing outfits was enough to prompt a change of heart.


Last month, the couple allowed themselves to be photographed for the first time since their reunion on a night out at London nightclub Boujis.


Kate was also pictured with Prince Charles on the Royal estate at Balmoral before spending the day deer stalking with her boyfriend.

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: TampaBay on November 12, 2007, 10:50:35 AM
If the story about Kate quitting her job in order to spend more time with William is true, there now should be debate about Kate's ability to be Princess of Wales and Qeen Consort of England.

Again, If the story is true, Kate has done herself more harm than good IMHO!

Who is advising this young woman...Sarah York????

TampaBay
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 13, 2007, 02:08:16 AM
Kate is holding on to William no doubt about it...but the scary thing is...is William (just like his father was with Diana) going along with the flow..but at the bottom of him much less sure than Kate...she certainly is a very determined young lady....perhaps what he needs..the Windsors have had a great knack of finding strong wives...but in the meantime she wants to get a job..and not be so obvious..
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ChristineM on November 13, 2007, 04:51:09 AM
Ashdean - just how do you know all this?   If you are relying on the tabloid press, or your interpretation of the tabloid press, you'll eat all you see.

Give this girl a chance.   Even the royal family credit her with making William stick it out at university and gain a creditable degree (unlike the majority of his relatives).   However not the match of hers.   To have a first class honours degree indicates that she is more intelligent than approximately 95% of posters here.   What she chooses to do with it, is her business and her business alone.     

Already the vultures are hovering to attack any weakness.

Leave the girl alone.   William will be a lucky man of she does hang around.   She has loyalty, brains, beauty and appears to be charming.

tsaria

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 13, 2007, 09:27:01 AM
I did not say she wasn't charming..and I complimented her determination..but the facts are there..and the way she pushed herself forward during their break up spoke volumes AND she should get a job instead of hanging around....
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Arleen on November 13, 2007, 12:14:58 PM
Personally i think that Kate quit her job to further her photographic hobby and build it into a business and maybe open a gallery with it.

I have always liked Kate.

Arleen
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: emeraldeyes on May 29, 2008, 09:23:19 AM
Interesting if true...


http://www.hellomagazine.ca/royalty/2008/05/26/kate-catherine-name/ (http://www.hellomagazine.ca/royalty/2008/05/26/kate-catherine-name/)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: TampaBay on May 29, 2008, 09:45:32 AM
She will always be Kate to Royal Fans as Diana Spencer Windsor will always be Lady Di.

TampaBay
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: emeraldeyes on May 29, 2008, 09:54:09 AM
I have to second that one Tampa. 
If she really wanted to be known as Catherine, it should have been put out there long before this.  'Catherine' just takes up far too much headline space.

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: TampaBay on June 06, 2008, 08:21:37 AM

Does anyone really believe that QEII or her underlings or resident palace hacks actually told William to tell Kate "Go Get a Real Job!!!"  I find this far fetched because if Kate did go get a "real job" she would be accused of abusing and taking advantage of her Roayl connections.  As one of my Ally Pally BFF's discussed with me in a PM, the security would be a nightmare to provide.

TampaBay
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: TampaBay on June 06, 2008, 12:04:25 PM
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,23824201-5008620,00.html


Link to geat story regarding my earlier post on "The Kate Problem".

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Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on June 09, 2008, 02:03:39 PM
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At a charity boxing match, also attended by Harry & Chelsy.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on June 17, 2008, 02:33:11 PM
Kate a the Garter ceremony

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Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on June 17, 2008, 02:47:51 PM
At the Garter ceremony

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Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: TampaBay on June 17, 2008, 07:45:05 PM
Not Bad.  Not bad at all!

TampaBay
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on June 17, 2008, 08:09:04 PM
Yes, I quite like too!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: emeraldeyes on June 17, 2008, 09:12:31 PM
She is very thin isn't she?  (jealous sigh...)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Martyn on June 18, 2008, 03:59:26 AM
I think that she looks pretty good.

I'm not sure how well the hat and the hair co-exist, but she looks elegant but still youthful.  She has dressed well for this occasion, the demureness of the outfit working well with the hat, which is quirky and perfect for her age and looks, and she hasn't dressed in such a way as to upstage the event, which after all is William's big day......

I suspect that this bodes well for the future........
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: TampaBay on June 19, 2008, 02:30:57 PM
From the UK Telegraph:

LONDON: Prince William's girlfriend Kate Middleton has declined an offer from the British Queen to host a table for ten of his friends at Royal Ascot, a private hospitality tent, this week.

Middleton recently stood in for William at his cousin Peter Phillips's wedding because he was in South Africa.

But this time, the 26-year-old has turned down the invitation as she "doesn't want to be standing in for Prince William again and using her Royal status", British newspaper the 'Daily Mail' reported.

"Kate was all set to take the table after having been personally invited by the Queen. She then had second thoughts and politely declined the offer.

"Princes William and Harry were both invited to Ascot, but neither of them can go, and so Kate was invited to take William's table. But she said she doesn't want to be standing in for William again and using her so-called Royal status.

"She knows that if she goes in William's place as a guest of the Queen the engagement rumours will gather momentum and it's not what she or William want.

"Kate's also been advised to take a back seat publicity wise, so she'll only really step out in any sort of Royal capacity when she absolutely has to and when she's with William," a friend of the Middletons was quoted as saying.

The Queen has also invited her granddaughters, Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie, who will each host tables of ten next Friday.

"The Queen is very keen for the young Royals to get into racing as it is her favourite pastime and lots of her horses compete at Ascot. This year, Kate Middleton was also invited, but she has turned down the offer," a Royal aide was quoted as saying.


TampaBay
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on June 25, 2008, 04:36:29 AM
Not Bad.  Not bad at all!

TampaBay
She should look good..apart from being a wealthy mans daughter...she seems to have nothing to do but pamper herself for her Prince...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on June 25, 2008, 06:02:38 AM
Not Bad.  Not bad at all!

TampaBay
She should look good..apart from being a wealthy mans daughter...she seems to have nothing to do but pamper herself for her Prince...

There seems to be a lot of criticism about what Kate Middleton does and doesn't do.  How does anyone know?  She doesn't talk to the media! 
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on July 20, 2008, 01:53:56 PM
at Rose's wedding from GREMB

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Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on July 30, 2008, 05:45:50 PM
Kate was just named to Vanity Fair's Best Dressed 2008 list.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CharlotteSometimes on July 30, 2008, 07:00:39 PM
Kate was just named to Vanity Fair's Best Dressed 2008 list.

Well deserved, and not only does she dress well, she presents herself with decorum and dignity.  I really like the girl and hope that William eventually marries her.

 (However, I am much affronted that her boyfriend's cousin Beatrice was left off the Vanity Fair list--an oversight on their part, I'm sure!!! ::)       )
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on July 31, 2008, 08:33:03 AM
However, I am much affronted that her boyfriend's cousin Beatrice was left off the Vanity Fair list--an oversight on their part, I'm sure!!!

I take it that this is a jest?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CharlotteSometimes on July 31, 2008, 10:03:25 AM
However, I am much affronted that her boyfriend's cousin Beatrice was left off the Vanity Fair list--an oversight on their part, I'm sure!!!

I take it that this is a jest?

Yes, shame on me for being so catty, but the butterfly outfit was the last straw for me.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: TampaBay on August 03, 2008, 09:38:30 AM
What has Kate been doing lately?  Does she have a job?

All the US scandal rags are pointing to a wedding next year.  What are the UK tabloids reporting?

TampaBay
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Princess Ann Elizabeth on August 22, 2008, 02:14:06 PM
Speculation...

So, I've dusted off my crystal ball to peer into what is going on beyond the palace gates as it relates to HRH Prince William and Kate Middleton. Here's what I believe to be happening...

Prince William and Kate are engaged, but are keeping it secret...very similar to QEII and Prince Phillip.

The engagement will be officially announced shortly after the New Year and I wouldn't be surprised if the photo call takes place at Sandringham (far removed from London and the cray paparazzi). His parent's engagement was announced in February, so I believe he would want to choose a different time. My thoughts are January.

The wedding will take place close to or shortly after the Trooping of the Colour which is in June. Again, they will want a wedding month different from his parents. It's been mentioned of giving the subjects a summer holiday in conjunction with the wedding. It makes sense to do that earlier in the summer rather than later. I don't know why! It's just a gut feeling.

While Prince William is focusing on his duties, Kate has been working as well though not in the public eye. She is working with designers to create her wedding dress, working out guest lists with the palace, color schemes, etc.

Regardless of the courtiers who want another huge wedding, the wedding will be held at St. George's Chapel...no question. Thus, keeping it extremely more manageable and intimate than his parent's wedding, which is very important to Prince William. Besides, St. George's has no negative connotation for the Prince that I'm aware of.

Kate is also supervising their new accommodations in St. James' Palace (perhaps even York House) from decorating, color schemes linens, etc. I believe she is also working closely with an individual or group of inidividuals who are shopping for a country house for them. That is to say, if they are not going to occupy the estate in Harewood that HRH Prince Charles is building.

After the engagement announcement, they will move in together in St. James' Palace. This is kind of a stretch, but what better way to protect Kate from the paparazzi. To the relief of her neighbors, her current flat would not become the staging ground for the world's press.

Okay, everyone have at...do you think I'm on track, nutters?!?!

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on August 22, 2008, 02:54:22 PM
Interesting  - are these all your thoughts alone, or are any of them based on something solid you've read or heard?

The two things you wrote that I immediately disagreed with were the venue for a wedding, and the couple's possible future residences.

As the future king, William's wedding is a state occasion, not a private or intimate affair.  Thousands of guests - including representatives of the commonwealth and foreign countries - would have to be invited.  William may not even have much say in its preparations or details.  Not to mention, Britain has not had a huge grand royal wedding in London since the Yorks married, and I imagine the Queen - the courtiers, and maybe even the government, may believe such an event would be a welcome and much needed national celebration.  We are still 4 years away from the next big royal milestone - the Queen's Diamond Jubilee.

And - given the timing and age of the elder generation, I highly doubt William and his bride would be given a new country home - which would just add yet another residence to the royal portfolio that would have to be cared for and maintained.  Upon his father's succession, William becomes Duke of Cornwall and thus inherits Highgrove House - and possibly Birkhall too.  Perhaps in the meantime they might be lent Frogmore House when needed.  As far as a London residence, I suppose you are probably right - the Court doesn't seem to be planning to accomodate any further royals at Kensington, so that would leave St. James for the newly wed couple.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Princess Ann Elizabeth on August 22, 2008, 05:09:11 PM
Hi CHRISinUSA,

Those were just my thoughts: pure conjecture and speculation on my part. I have no facts other than what I've gleaned from a news story here and there  (I know, don't believe everything you read!).

I'm sure I'm incorrect on most if now all of the topics I mentioned above, but they've been occupying my thoughts and I thought I share them and perhaps start a discussion on them.

As far as their wedding being grander than I have anticipated, would the Palace go so far for the second in line to the throne? Perhaps you're right. I just thought it be a perfect excuse that the Prince would lobby for...so that they can keep their wedding on the smaller side. You do bring up an excellent point, one that I overlooked. It's a opportunity for the monarchy to show their stuff, and they do show it well!

This board is my place to go to be with my other monarchy loving cyber-friends. I sure hope my post isn't viewed as malicious or anything.

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Emperor of the Dominions on August 23, 2008, 12:34:55 PM
Most interesting!

R.I.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: joan_d on August 23, 2008, 12:40:51 PM
, Britain has not had a huge grand royal wedding in London since the Yorks married, and I imagine the Queen - the courtiers, and maybe even the government, may believe such an event would be a welcome and much needed national celebration. 


Chris, you are forgetting that the weddings of the PoW and Duke of York were absolute fiascos.   They were more than 20 years ago and things have changed incredibly since that time.

If the House of Windsor has learnt anything (and I very much doubt that it has) it is that the public does not have a taste for yet another expensive travesty of a marriage ceremony.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Taren on August 23, 2008, 02:01:34 PM
I'm a part of the public and I'd love for the wedding to be a huge one.

Millions watched his parents get married and some still remember when his grandparents were married. We've watched him grow up, through the sad times when his parents were divorced and then when his mother died. It would be nice for there to be a huge public event that was all about his happiness. Charles and Diana may not have gotten a happy ending together, but I'm willing to bet I'm not the only person who would like to see their children get theirs.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: TampaBay on August 23, 2008, 05:24:48 PM
Do you think Princess Anne will but a new outfit for Williams wedding?  LOL!  LOL!

TampaBay
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on August 27, 2008, 11:20:28 PM
Id like to see him marry by 35   and to Catherine  Westminster Abbey   London Home St James  and country home that Manor thatll be done by 2010
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Charity on August 28, 2008, 01:44:08 AM
Do you think Princess Anne will but a new outfit for Williams wedding?  LOL!  LOL!

TampaBay

Not a chance...!  The BIG question is which old outfit will be brought out of the closet for the occasion!  I do like Princess Anne, but it would be nice to see her in something new occasionally!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on August 28, 2008, 11:13:27 AM
, Britain has not had a huge grand royal wedding in London since the Yorks married, and I imagine the Queen - the courtiers, and maybe even the government, may believe such an event would be a welcome and much needed national celebration. 


Chris, you are forgetting that the weddings of the PoW and Duke of York were absolute fiascos.   They were more than 20 years ago and things have changed incredibly since that time.

If the House of Windsor has learnt anything (and I very much doubt that it has) it is that the public does not have a taste for yet another expensive travesty of a marriage ceremony.

Your position seems to be that because the last two big royal marriages ultimately failed, all future royal weddings should be smaller, more intimate occasions.  I disagree.

Part of the job of the British monarchy is to host grand public occasions, and frankly no one does it better.  Royal weddings have been a grand spectacle of celebration for a long time, captivating millions in Britain and abroad. 

If you hold one today, I guarantee that huge crowds will camp out in central London, the tea towels will sell, and international networks will be on hand for days on end, just like every one that came before. 

The fact that Charles & Diana, and Andrew and Sarah's marriages failed may actually increase people's desire to see another royal wedding that is followed by a happy marriage.  Call it a bit of a restoration of the fairy tale after a generation of absence.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on September 18, 2008, 01:36:50 PM
http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2008/09/kate-middleton.html
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on September 18, 2008, 05:03:04 PM
What has Kate been doing lately?  Does she have a job?

She apparently works for her parents' company.  There seems to be a lot of people not satisfied with this but I'm not sure why.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: crazy_wing on September 25, 2008, 02:24:47 PM
it seems that many ppl feel working for one's parents is hardly a real job as one can choose to leave or take holidays as one please.  certainly it doesn't help when every week you can see pictures of her partying.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: joan_d on September 25, 2008, 02:49:50 PM
She seems a bit of an air head.   There are so many things for a girl of her age to become involved with.   It seems she has set her sights on Wills and thats that.  History about to repeat itself?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on September 25, 2008, 04:28:40 PM
it seems that many ppl feel working for one's parents is hardly a real job as one can choose to leave or take holidays as one please.  certainly it doesn't help when every week you can see pictures of her partying.

So, everyone who works within a family business isn't doing a "real job", then?  As for taking leave or holidays when one pleases, many self-employed people can do just that - if it fits in with the business, why not?  Let's remember Diana only worked three mornings a week when she became engaged to Prince Charles.  I don't ever remember that attracting criticism. 

As for Kate Middleton partying - she's not a member of the royal family, so she's free to do as she pleases.  If you want to get stuck into partying, what about those increasingly unpopular York girls photographed in the tabloids night after night clubbing and partying, running up a huge tab at the bar and at the tax-payers expense with their round-the-clock security?  They're the ones who should be far more accountable for what they're doing before Kate Middleton!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: TampaBay on September 26, 2008, 07:14:54 AM
Grace,

I must agree with your thoughts on Kate.  There is no doubt in my mind that Kate and William are engaged.  The engagement just has not been announced to the public to date. 

If William and Kate were not engaged then I believe she would be working at a high profile job to build a career.  It seems to me that the only reason anyone would hire Kate at this time would be to have the future "Princess Willaim" on their payroll for PR purposes.  If I were Kate I would not want a job under this circumstance.  I never understood why she left Jigsaw as a job for a fashion house would allow her to use her talents, socialize with the correct people and leave her time to tend to William.

TampaBay
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: mcdnab on September 26, 2008, 07:33:47 AM
Her problem is that as the girlfriend of the second in line to the throne she attracts enormous press interest whatever she does.  If she doesn't work then she is criticised, if she does work then there is the risk of her being constantly doorstepped by the paps and the ever present risk of compromising herself (in the way that the Countess of Wessex did by carrying on her pr work after her marriage)....working for her parents company is the obvious answer to both those problems - it means she has employers who understand her personal circumstances, avoids people callling her a layabout and means she can earn an income of her own.   As to all this nonsense about partying - she's photographed when out because of who she is - but she's also a young woman in her twenties with plenty of friends who enjoys going out - in other words no different from hundreds of thousands of other young men and women who also probably go out and about every weekend whether to clubs, pubs, restaurants or parties!
Whether she and William marry or not is still very up in the air but she rarely puts a foot wrong and a lot of the unkind gossip that's appeared about her comes from some of the overprivileged, over indulged wealthy society friends that are aquainted with both William and Harry and either don't like her personally or don't like the idea of her.




Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: crazy_wing on September 26, 2008, 12:18:32 PM
it seems that many ppl feel working for one's parents is hardly a real job as one can choose to leave or take holidays as one please.  certainly it doesn't help when every week you can see pictures of her partying.

So, everyone who works within a family business isn't doing a "real job", then?  As for taking leave or holidays when one pleases, many self-employed people can do just that - if it fits in with the business, why not?  Let's remember Diana only worked three mornings a week when she became engaged to Prince Charles.  I don't ever remember that attracting criticism. 

As for Kate Middleton partying - she's not a member of the royal family, so she's free to do as she pleases.  If you want to get stuck into partying, what about those increasingly unpopular York girls photographed in the tabloids night after night clubbing and partying, running up a huge tab at the bar and at the tax-payers expense with their round-the-clock security?  They're the ones who should be far more accountable for what they're doing before Kate Middleton!

well since someone asked about the general opinion in the UK... i am just staying this is what i gathered here in London.

As to the York girls...  they are a waste.  Just earlier this week, I picked up a free newspaper and on the 2nd page, there is a picture of Beatrice starting school.  In the middle of the paper, there is another picture of her stumbling out of a club at some late hrs the night before her first day of school. 
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on October 09, 2008, 03:39:44 AM
Apparently official, as a Clarence House spokesman has confirmed.  I'm afraid I'm with some of the reader's comments here:  sounds like just an adventure for the princes under the guise of 'charity'.  Unfortunately, my disillusionment with the young royals continues unabated.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1073890/William-Harry-rev-Ewan-McGregor-style-charity-motorcycle-marathon-Africa.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1073890/William-Harry-rev-Ewan-McGregor-style-charity-motorcycle-marathon-Africa.html)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on October 09, 2008, 09:53:32 AM
Sigh, I'm with you as well Grace - at least a bit.

William and Harry want to participate in a charity bike ride in South Africa.  They have donated at least the minimum 1500 pounds to enter.  The whole event is expected to raise 300,000 pounds.  All admirable.  But - the British taxpayer has to pay tens of thousands of pounds in security for the princes to attend.   Hmmm... my first thought was - I'd tell W&H to pay for their own security as their "contribution" to the charitable event, or not participate at all. 

But then I thought - don't a pair of detectives ALREADY follow both William and Harry every day of their lives regardless of where they go?  Then surely no additional security costs are incurred by the trip (aside from travel expenses for the detectives of course), and the Mirror is merely sensationalizing this?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Martyn on October 10, 2008, 07:44:35 AM
Good point Chris.  And it is for charity.......

On the subject of any possible wedding, I am pretty sure that I am not alone in considering that a lavish spectacle would be out of tune with the current economic climate in which we face soaring costs and potential ruin for some families.  Plus, who would pay for it?

As for Anne, at least she has an excuse for trotting out one of her hideous 'FUGLY' eighties fashion crimes, seeing as we are all supposed to be tightening our belts.  Isn't frock swapping the new big thing?  Perhaps she could do some swaps with Shirley Bassey or Dame Edna Everage ( she couldn't look any worse......)??!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: TampaBay on October 10, 2008, 08:05:00 AM
The November  2008 USA Vanity Fair has an "article" on Kate Middleton.

There is no knew info in the article for anyone who blogs in Windsorland on the Ally Pally.

The pictures were interesting but nothing earth shattering.

TampaBay
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: TampaBay on October 10, 2008, 08:11:03 AM

On the subject of any possible wedding, I am pretty sure that I am not alone in considering that a lavish spectacle would be out of tune with the current economic climate in which we face soaring costs and potential ruin for some families.  Plus, who would pay for it?


If the Queen does not want to pay for the wedding, I am confident HELLO! magazine will be more than willing to pick up the tab!  ;) ;) ;)

TampaBay
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on January 09, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
Happy 27th Birthday, Miss Middleton. Let the renewed engagement rumors commence!  :) ;)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: TampaBay on January 15, 2009, 07:00:54 AM
Happy 27th Birthday, Miss Middleton. Let the renewed engagement rumors commence!  :) ;)

Any predictions as to when the engagement will be announced?

TampaBay
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: imperial angel on January 16, 2009, 12:46:00 AM
Well, Prince William will be 27 in June. Prince Charles back in the day was not allowed to wait past 30 to marry, as soon as he reached 30 he was supposed to be married. That was something that may have contributed to his marrying Diana- all the pressure to wed due to his age. But Prince William and Kate are the real thing, unlike Prince Charles and Diana's romance. I would be surprised if William waited to age 30 to marry. So that leaves three years.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: jehan on January 16, 2009, 12:51:26 PM
Well, Prince William will be 27 in June. Prince Charles back in the day was not allowed to wait past 30 to marry, as soon as he reached 30 he was supposed to be married.

Who made these supposed rules that Charles had to marry by 30?  There was and is no such rule.

In an interview when he was younger, Charles said that "around 30" was a good age to be married.  And there was growing amount of speculation in the press as he got older.  There  was probably  some pressure in the family for him to "settle down".  But there was no rule that he "Had to" any more than a couple of generations earlier with Edward Vlll.  Had he decided not to marry at all, he would still be heir to the throne.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: imperial angel on January 16, 2009, 04:09:49 PM
That's true. I believe especially in light of his parent's marriage and the disaster it was, there is less pressure on Prince William. I just think there was alot of pressure on Prince Charles at the time- more so because Diana was so suitable to be the wife of the heir to the throne, had he been dating nobody at the time, or someone who was less suitable than Diana, maybe there would have been less pressure. Prince William is far more free to marry who he wishes than Prince Charles was. I didn't mean not allowed in a absulute sense- I overstated things, I guess I meant there was a lot of pressure, and I put it too strongly- I never meant that there was a rule.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olga Maria on January 20, 2009, 09:36:34 AM
IMO,it has to be that way maybe because it will give William more time  to know more (though he knows a lot already about his GF) about Kate. Maybe Kate could not make an eligible queen to UK, right? (and that's very important, despite the fact that true love is another factor on having a great royal match)
Love knows how to wait...(don't rush Kate, please)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Selencia on January 26, 2009, 08:51:49 PM
Ooo a Kate thread! I'm new to this board so first let me say Hello. I like Kate well enough but I have a feeling she would be better off with someone else.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on January 28, 2009, 10:28:20 AM
Welcome, Selencia!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olga Maria on January 30, 2009, 06:28:57 PM
Ooo a Kate thread! I'm new to this board so first let me say Hello. I like Kate well enough but I have a feeling she would be better off with someone else.

Yappiee! Me, too!

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Selencia on February 03, 2009, 03:45:57 PM
Ooo a Kate thread! I'm new to this board so first let me say Hello. I like Kate well enough but I have a feeling she would be better off with someone else.

Yappiee! Me, too!



Are you just saying that because you want her boyfriend? ;)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Tina Laroche on February 03, 2009, 05:55:57 PM
Ooo a Kate thread! I'm new to this board so first let me say Hello. I like Kate well enough but I have a feeling she would be better off with someone else.

Yappiee! Me, too!



Are you just saying that because you want her boyfriend? ;)

It's possible. :) I would have said it because of that LOL. On the other hand, maybe not. :D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olga Maria on February 05, 2009, 03:35:38 AM

Are you just saying that because you want her boyfriend? ;)

Partly right, Selencia (",)
I just caught Kate being too over-demanding on Wills.  She had some luxuries because her bf is the Prince of Wales. (but sometimes, others willingly give her expensive gifts to impress the supposed future queen).
Is she undergoing "grooming" right now?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on February 24, 2009, 05:12:34 PM
There was a royal engagement announced today...in Sweden. Crown Princess Victoria and Daniel Westling have finally made it official and will be married in early summer 2010. I'm very happy for them, but, alas, I wish the announcement was for another couple we know.

2010 may shape up to be a very busy social season with the Swedish Royal Wedding (also their dynasty's 200th anniversary) and perhaps a British Royal Wedding?!?! Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olga Maria on February 26, 2009, 10:29:32 AM
Sigh, I'm with you as well Grace - at least a bit.

William and Harry want to participate in a charity bike ride in South Africa.  They have donated at least the minimum 1500 pounds to enter.  The whole event is expected to raise 300,000 pounds.  All admirable.  But - the British taxpayer has to pay tens of thousands of pounds in security for the princes to attend.   Hmmm... my first thought was - I'd tell W&H to pay for their own security as their "contribution" to the charitable event, or not participate at all. 

But then I thought - don't a pair of detectives ALREADY follow both William and Harry every day of their lives regardless of where they go?  Then surely no additional security costs are incurred by the trip (aside from travel expenses for the detectives of course), and the Mirror is merely sensationalizing this?


If they weren't just princes, they could freely attend this event.
They had the good goal for joining but we doubt about the security pay...That should've been for more needies huh.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: TampaBay on March 18, 2009, 09:13:13 AM
Any news of an engagement between Kate & William?

TampaBay
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on March 18, 2009, 02:55:46 PM
From my perspective, if it is going to happen 'imminently' as the French royal magazine has stated, it would have to wait for Prince Charles and Camilla to return from their South American tour, which is today or tomorrow. I say that because there is no way that courtiers would allow Prince William to upstage his father. If it's going to be announced, I'm thinking within the next week. Otherwise, the claim of an imminent engagement announcement was pure conjecture and completely made up.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olga Maria on March 21, 2009, 12:22:51 AM
... I wish it would be televised over my country. I'd wish to know how the ceremony would go.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on March 21, 2009, 09:14:08 AM
Ooo a Kate thread! I'm new to this board so first let me say Hello. I like Kate well enough but I have a feeling she would be better off with someone else.

And she will be,eventually,I'm sure.... ::)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: carl fraley on March 21, 2009, 11:10:31 PM
HRH Prince William is certainly his own man and IMO will not make the mistake his father did and not be pushed into anything, When he is ready He'll get married and I wish him the best of luck.  I hope he takes the Title of Duke of Cambridge until he become Prince of Wales.... I'm dying for the Revival of the Tital
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Ladyshiva on March 22, 2009, 07:50:12 PM
I agree. William has inherited alot of Diana's traits and he will do what he feels is best for him and not bow down to media pressure like his mother.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olga Maria on March 22, 2009, 09:35:59 PM
In an interview while he was in St.Andrews, he said that he hates losing control of his way of life. He doesn't want to be pushed by anyone (most likely the press) on to something he thinks is not right for him.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on March 24, 2009, 03:28:39 AM
I think William has inherited more than a few of his mother and fathers weaknesses....He disentangled himself once from the clinging Kate..it will not be as easy the second time!
"Waity Katie" plays a good game....indeed she is what the Royal family no doubt realise William needs..a very strong woman behind him..in the mould of his grandmother and the last 2 Queen Consorts...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olga Maria on March 24, 2009, 11:47:08 PM
Has she expressed views she want to be Queen someday?If not I'm a bit sure she's thinking something like it at the back of her mind;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on May 13, 2009, 12:35:42 PM
Prince William Visits 109-Year-Old
(May 12) - A 109-year-old woman who had complained about the birthday cards she had received from Buckingham Palace got a surprise visit from Prince William. The prince, who is second in line to the throne, visited Catherine Masters on Friday at her nursing home in Oxfordshire, England, and offered an apology on behalf of his grandmother.

Like all British centenarians, Masters received a royal birthday card from Queen Elizabeth II when she turned 100, 105 and every year thereafter. But for the last five years, Masters said, the Buckingham Palace card has featured the same photo of the queen in a yellow dress. She wrote to the palace to complain.

The prince promised his 83-year-old grandmother would be wearing a new outfit on the next card."I told him I would like the queen to have a new dress. I think either a blue or white one would be nice," Masters said.

William, who turns 27 in June, and Masters chatted over tea about the prince's great-grandmother, the late Queen Mother Elizabeth, and cooking. "He told me he liked making shepherd's pie and said he used a masher to mash the potatoes, but I told him he was doing it wrong -- he should use a fork to fluff the potatoes," said Masters.

The visit was arranged by a local member of Parliament, who knew that Masters had always wanted to meet a member of the royal family....Wendy Mead, a senior nurse manager, said Masters was bowled over when the prince arrived. "It was a total shock, and Catherine was speechless. Prince William came in and she asked if he was real. She squeezed his hand to check."

Masters has now been invited to a garden party with the queen at Buckingham Palace on July 7.
"She’s off to buy a new dress and hat," Wendy Mead said.

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Vecchiolarry on May 13, 2009, 01:57:33 PM
Hi,

What a marvellous story about a handsome young prince visiting an elderly lady and then inviting her to a garden party...
It's the stuff of fairy tales and helps to preserve and advance the mystic of the monarchy.

My advice to him would be to now visit a kindergarden and charm all the little girls and play swords or something with the boys;  and then he has a ready made support for his future monarchy...  They'll all be dazzled!!!

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on May 13, 2009, 11:08:53 PM
He is dazzling...isn't he!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olga Maria on May 14, 2009, 11:11:46 AM
wonderful story! thank you GDElla!
I'm always fascinated with his simplicity and looks...such a magnificent prince!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: joan_d on May 14, 2009, 11:50:53 AM
Funnily enough the mystery falters when you see pictures in the British tabloids of the princes rolling out of west end nightclubs in the early hours !!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on May 14, 2009, 12:10:38 PM
Prince William Visits 109-Year-Old
(May 12) - A 109-year-old woman who had complained about the birthday cards she had received from Buckingham Palace got a surprise visit from Prince William. The prince, who is second in line to the throne, visited Catherine Masters on Friday at her nursing home in Oxfordshire, England, and offered an apology on behalf of his grandmother.

Like all British centenarians, Masters received a royal birthday card from Queen Elizabeth II when she turned 100, 105 and every year thereafter. But for the last five years, Masters said, the Buckingham Palace card has featured the same photo of the queen in a yellow dress. She wrote to the palace to complain.

The prince promised his 83-year-old grandmother would be wearing a new outfit on the next card."I told him I would like the queen to have a new dress. I think either a blue or white one would be nice," Masters said.

William, who turns 27 in June, and Masters chatted over tea about the prince's great-grandmother, the late Queen Mother Elizabeth, and cooking. "He told me he liked making shepherd's pie and said he used a masher to mash the potatoes, but I told him he was doing it wrong -- he should use a fork to fluff the potatoes," said Masters.

The visit was arranged by a local member of Parliament, who knew that Masters had always wanted to meet a member of the royal family....Wendy Mead, a senior nurse manager, said Masters was bowled over when the prince arrived. "It was a total shock, and Catherine was speechless. Prince William came in and she asked if he was real. She squeezed his hand to check."

Masters has now been invited to a garden party with the queen at Buckingham Palace on July 7.
"She’s off to buy a new dress and hat," Wendy Mead said.



http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2009/05/time-for-a-different-birthday-photo.html

courtesy hja
 :D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Vecchiolarry on May 14, 2009, 09:44:10 PM
Hi,

Yes Joan_d, the sparkle does go to tarnish when the tabloids print their garbage;  but Wills & Harry should now know better as they are supposedly 'young adults'....

I class the "prince charming story" as William's official role;  and the "nightclubbings" as private and should be ignored.
We need more official stories;  and no private ones, as they're none of our business...

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: joan_d on May 15, 2009, 11:52:54 AM
Hi,

Yes Joan_d, the sparkle does go to tarnish when the tabloids print their garbage;  but Wills & Harry should now know better as they are supposedly 'young adults'....

I class the "prince charming story" as William's official role;  and the "nightclubbings" as private and should be ignored.
We need more official stories;  and no private ones, as they're none of our business...

Larry

Sorry I can't agree - with all their many privileges, comes responsibilities and they are now of an age where they should be setting an example.  I don't know where you hail from, but here in the UK we have a national problem with young people "binge" drinking.   Surely the Royal Family should not be leaving themselves open to the glare of the tabloids.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on May 15, 2009, 01:24:23 PM
You both bring up excellent points.

I have been reading over the last couple of years about the binge drinking issue. It's a problem here in the U.S. as well. I do not want to see pictures of the young royals (William, Harry, Beatrice and Eugenie) completely blitzed out of their minds leaving a club at 4 a.m. From my perspective, they are required to set a good example. Plain and simple. If they want to "go off", do it in privacy of their home or their friend's homes. But, if they are stupid enough to do it in a public place, the press has every right to take and publish those pictures. And, when that happens, I sure hope there are repercussions for their actions from their parents and/or the Firm. It's actually quite disturbing to see those photos of William and Harry completely wrecked and makes me deeply concerned about darker issues with alcohol that we don't know about. Hopefully, they are receiving the support they need if indeed there are problems. Thank goodness for their military training which forbids the mass consumption of alcohol.

Just my two cents.

Regards,

=RoyalWatcher=
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olga Maria on May 15, 2009, 07:45:24 PM
You've got a very good point there, RW!
If they don't want to complain about those pictures they had on such outings, they must not do it.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: joan_d on May 16, 2009, 11:24:15 AM
Yes I agree they are entitled to their private lives.  For anyone in the public eye it must be a nightmare with everybody owning a mobile phone, digital camera etc not to mention the papparatzi !   However, if they will go to nightclubs in the middle of London and roll out in the early hours, they really cannot expect privacy on these occasions.

Am not impressed by either William or Harry but (as the mother of a 26 year old son myself) I know just what a terrible culture of cheap and freely available alcohol can do.   Here in the Uk (I don't know about the US where I thought the law was far more stringent), the Government just will not address what is an extremely serious issue.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: TampaBay on June 26, 2009, 12:43:20 PM
Any news of "THE" Engagement?

TampaBay
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on June 26, 2009, 01:13:23 PM
Only speculation, TampaBay. It may occur early next year, but who knows.

Do you have any other information to share?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olga Maria on June 27, 2009, 05:56:06 AM
I really expect it to happen this year!

Something about her last June 20:
It’s 2-1 odds at some British bookies this weekend, after reports that Kate Middleton has been formally invited to meet the Queen at Balmoral during the August Bank Holiday, that there will be an engagement announced this year. While Middleton has met the Queen previously, this will be the first time that she has been to the Scottish home of the Queen.

In the minds of many, it’s about damn time that something happened. Now that Crown Princess Victoria has finally gotten herself engaged, all eyes are on William in the hopes of another fairy tale wedding. However, unlike Princess Diana, Middleton has lived with the unending media attention and speculation for years now, so she has at least become somewhat accustomed to what her life would be like as a future British Queen.

Whatever the case may be, Wills will need to hurry along; he turns 27 tomorrow and he’s not getting any younger, as his balding head will attest. And if it’s not Kate that he marries, he’s got a long slog ahead of him to find someone else, if he does not want to put her in the same position that his mother was in. And besides, they do seem to care for each other quite a lot, if they’ve weathered all that’s been thrown at them thus far in their relationship.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on June 27, 2009, 11:06:48 AM
It would be very interesting if Prince William bucked the trend of getting engaged in late winter/early spring and a wedding in mid-summer with a surprise engagement late summer and a wedding in the fall. But, that is not likely at all. His wedding will be a BIG affair and I just don't see that happening this year. Too many obstacles in the way for that...the biggest one being the poor economy. I sure hope I'm wrong though! I, for one, totally love the idea of these two getting married. Kate is absolutely adorable and so well suited (as she has demonstrated so well of the last five years) for a future royal.

I know what I am about to say is a big stretch here, but here goes...Kate is reminding me more and more of Queen Mary all the time. Well, at least in the way in which she carries herself and her discretion. I see so many parallels between these woman. It's fascinating.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on June 30, 2009, 07:38:25 PM
Where did everyone go? It must be vacation season. No one has posted on the Windsor thread since my last post in this thread 3-days ago. That's remarkable.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on July 21, 2009, 12:21:08 PM
I Think he will be engaged by the end of 2011  to Kate   it will last  im sure
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: joan_d on July 21, 2009, 03:44:36 PM
I think there may be a re-think at the Palace given the breaking story of Kate's drug dealing,prostitute-using uncle.  Unfortunately I don't know how to linke to newspaper stories but it was in "News of the World" on Sunday.  The same reporter who did the "fake Sheik" story with Duchess of Wessex !
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on July 21, 2009, 04:05:56 PM
Has it been discovered she's been telling this uncle things she shouldn't or involved in his dirty doings in some way?  Otherwise, I can't see his appalling actions have anything to do with her.  How can she control what he does?  It's not her shame.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 21, 2009, 07:42:24 PM
I totally agree, Grace. He's just a wacky relative...I know I have them.

It's very upsetting how this information was obtained. Those "journalists" and the corporation that bought the rights to the information should be sued. I am utterly sick of this kind of intrusion being reported in the press. It's ugly and disgusting. Next topic...moving on now.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: joan_d on July 22, 2009, 06:40:02 AM
Grace - I don't have an opinion one way or the other, merely commenting on a "story" that has hit the papers this week.  It was a typical case of entrapment set up by Rupert Murdoch's "News of the World".   It has been done on numerous occasions before and the uncle was a fool for falling for it but apparently he did indiscreet comments about the Royal couple - I think that you have a drug pusher and prostitute-supplier in the family is a step too far for even the Royal family.

However, the whole shabby episode pales into insignifance compared with the way the "story" was obtained.   The Dirty Digger is one of the most incidious people on the planet.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olga Maria on July 25, 2009, 02:35:26 AM
Prince William Hikes for Charity
July 24th, 2009



 Prince William went hiking through England’s countryside Friday, in the name of charity.

Six teenagers from Centrepoint, an organization which helps homeless youths, and members of Mountain Rescue, a volunteer run charity, joined the future King in a trek up Helvellyn, a mountain in the Cumbria region of northeastern England.

Prince William did this to help the teens get a different view of life.

“A lot of these guys have never done anything like this so it is a real challenge for them and I have really enjoyed meeting them,” he said, according to the Daily Mail.

The location of the hike of kept secret until today. Therefore, other hikers who were not part of the group were surprised to see a Prince go by.

But according to Andy Simpson, the spokesman of Mountain Rescue, William stopped to chat with those hikers.

“It was nice to see him engaging with so many members of the public. They just happened to be out for a walk and it’s just made their day,” Simpson said.

Once reaching Helvellyn’s top, the Prince and his team raised a flag to mark three years until the start of the 2012 Summer Olympics, taking place in London.

Those who trekked with Prince William were a bit taken aback by how down-to-earth he is.

“I didn’t know he was coming until last night but he was a lot more down-to-earth than I expected, he was canny.” said Johnny Glendinning.

At the end, William praised the folks of Mountain Rescue.

“These men and women are unsung heroes. They are up and down these mountains rescuing people with broken legs every day.”
Afterward, the Prince went on a boat ride with the members of WellChild, a charity that looks after sick children.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on July 28, 2009, 04:48:43 AM
http://www.royalimages.nl/search.pp?page=1&ShowPicture=10440158&pos=13

http://www.royalimages.nl/search.pp?page=2&ShowPicture=10440173&pos=12

courtesy royalimages.

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on July 28, 2009, 10:59:06 AM
Thank you for the link to the photos, Lucien.

I do wish Prince William would choose a different hairstyle. The one I think would suit him with his thinning/flyaway hair is the same style his cousin Peter Phillips has chosen to wear. The short crop cut looks wonderful on him and I believe it would suit and flatter Prince William quite well. Losing one's hair at such a young age has got to be a bit difficult. Perhaps that's the reason he's reluctant to make short what is rapidly disappearing.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olga Maria on July 28, 2009, 11:40:02 PM
Or, what if Prince William change his hair color from blonde to dark brown? I can't imagine it, what do you all think? But, I hope he would avail himself hair implants someday...(which I think will cause much sound again)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on July 29, 2009, 05:48:14 AM
Or, what if Prince William change his hair color from blonde to dark brown? I can't imagine it, what do you all think? But, I hope he would avail himself hair implants someday...(which I think will cause much sound again)

Oh,pl-ea-se!What utter nonsense,child.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on September 23, 2009, 03:40:49 PM
I’m encouraged by Prince William’s remarks in this article. Good for him for approaching his role in “his” way and issuing a press release about it. It will be interesting to see if he is indeed able to do what he says.  
   
http://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUSTRE58M23G20090923

P.S. I am celebrating! This is my 100th post and I am no longer newbie. Hurah!!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on September 24, 2009, 04:30:10 AM
Dear William on granny:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2009/09/william-inspired-by-grandma-queen-elizabeth.html

courtesy hja
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 04, 2009, 02:31:24 PM
On the Prince's charities

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3kiiYUTEqU&feature=channel_page

 :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on December 17, 2009, 03:09:18 AM
Prince William visited the Centrepoint charity,yesterday:

http://www.royalimages.nl/search.pp?page=3&ShowPicture=11619865&pos=24

http://www.royalimages.nl/search.pp?page=4&ShowPicture=11619882&pos=27

http://www.royalimages.nl/search.pp?page=4&ShowPicture=11619867&pos=26

courtesy royalimages.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on December 17, 2009, 06:50:39 AM
Or, what if Prince William change his hair color from blonde to dark brown? I can't imagine it, what do you all think? But, I hope he would avail himself hair implants someday...(which I think will cause much sound again)

Oh,pl-ea-se!What utter nonsense,child.

I have to agree with Lucien.  His hair, or lack of it, has nothing to do with his abilities as a prince or an individual and isn't really any of our business, though I will say I think thinning hair looks best kept short - keeping it longer doesn't really hide much.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on December 17, 2009, 07:15:56 AM
'His hair, or lack of it, has nothing to do with his abilities as a prince or an individual and isn't really any of our business, though I will say I think thinning hair looks best kept short - keeping it longer doesn't really hide much.'

I agree, but what he really does need to do is give up wearing baseball caps. He looks totally moronic in them.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on December 17, 2009, 07:32:03 AM
But that's just your personal opinion.  He's certainly not the only one who wears baseball caps for casual wear.  If he's at the football or other such event, I can't see the problem with it.  He doesn't wear them when he's at a formal event. 
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on December 17, 2009, 07:50:39 AM
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'But that's just your personal opinion.  He's certainly not the only one who wears baseball caps for casual wear.  If he's at the football or other such event, I can't see the problem with it.  He doesn't wear them when he's at a formal event.'

Certainly it's my personal opinion. But he's always on show as a member of the royal family, whether it's an informal event or not. Given that he does look moronic in a baseball cap (they do nothing for anybody, in my view, and I will admit that one of my pet hates is people wearing them indoors), he'd be far better ditching them. For informal events I would suggest no hat at all, and, depending on the weather, a polo shirt, sweater or fleece, with a waterproof of some sort if necessary.

To be fair, he and Prince Harry were at a memorial event for British troops earlier this week and both looked very smart in suits.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on December 23, 2009, 04:44:04 AM
A 21st century version of the pauper Prince as William took up a challenge from his charity,Centrepoint and slept on the street in a sleepingbag:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2009/12/william-sleeping-rough-in-london.html

courtesy hja
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 12, 2010, 04:38:42 AM
Prince William visited Lincolnshire:

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/FTA365eq0lM/Prince+William+Visits+Lincolnshire/Qh0Un1KHzKo

 :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 12, 2010, 10:56:47 PM
January 17th Prince William will start his first official visit to New Zealand and Australia.

http://www.facebook.com/firstofficialvisit
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 15, 2010, 01:23:29 PM
Prince William completed helicopter course at RAF Shawbury

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8462144.stm

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on January 16, 2010, 10:40:26 AM
What an incredible milestone and achievement in this young man's life. It's has been and continues to be a pleasure watching him grow and mature into the fine young man that he is.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Victor on January 16, 2010, 04:32:17 PM
Prince William arrived here-Auckland,New Zealand ,about half an hour ago for a three day visit.He will represent the Queen opening the new Supreme Court in Wellington but generally the visit is low key.The Prince is sailing on the harbour this afternoon,lovely sunny weather today,and will attend a Hangi,sort of a Maori barbaque,at Government House where he will be staying the night.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 18, 2010, 08:12:34 AM
Prince William arrived here-Auckland,New Zealand ,about half an hour ago for a three day visit.He will represent the Queen opening the new Supreme Court in Wellington but generally the visit is low key.The Prince is sailing on the harbour this afternoon,lovely sunny weather today,and will attend a Hangi,sort of a Maori barbaque,at Government House where he will be staying the night.

William's Official visit to NZ:

http://www.royalimages.nl/search.pp?mailingid=17197&fluah=1

courtesy royalimages. :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 18, 2010, 12:50:02 PM
Prince William arrived here-Auckland,New Zealand ,about half an hour ago for a three day visit.He will represent the Queen opening the new Supreme Court in Wellington but generally the visit is low key.The Prince is sailing on the harbour this afternoon,lovely sunny weather today,and will attend a Hangi,sort of a Maori barbaque,at Government House where he will be staying the night.

William's Official visit to NZ:

http://www.royalimages.nl/search.pp?mailingid=17197&fluah=1

courtesy royalimages. :)


http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2010/01/prince-william-attracts-nz-crowd.html

courtesy hja
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Victor on January 19, 2010, 02:35:11 AM
More pictures and stories if you go to nzherald.co.nz  and tvnz.co.nz  The Princes has been popular and well recieved on his third visit to New Zealand.The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh have indicated they are unlikely to come here again-disappointing but understandable.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 19, 2010, 02:12:46 PM
Arrival in Australia:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2010/01/prince-william-starts-3day-visit-to-australia.html

courtesy hja :)

http://www.royalimages.nl/search.pp?mailingid=17229

courtesy royalimages.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 20, 2010, 12:51:38 PM
Prince William's next stop:Sydney.

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2010/01/william-ready-to-pack-up-move-to-sydney.html

courtesy hja  :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on January 21, 2010, 04:58:18 AM
Having not many positive thoughts about the young royals on this forum, I must say I have been deeply impressed with William during his tour of New Zealand and Australia.  He has matured so much since he delivered that rather hasty speech at the Diana Memorial Concert in 2007.  His public speeches are now clear and well delivered and he has handled the public and the press brilliantly - not too familiar yet not too distant either.  Today he toured areas in the state of Victoria, Australia which less than 12 months ago were ravaged by bushfires which claimed 173 lives, destroyed 2029 homes, many properties and innumerable farm animals and wildlife.  The residents, many of whom are still living in caravans or with friends or relatives after the disaster seemed delighted that William spent some time with them.  It has been a short but very successful visit.  I have not heard a word of criticism...from anyone.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on January 21, 2010, 05:33:42 AM
...well, until I read a headline from Britain's Daily Mail, whose writer, Amanda Platell, regarded William's behaviour as "too informal" during his tour.  Guess he can't please everyone.  Then again, the Mail  is not exactly renowned for its praise of the royal family...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 21, 2010, 05:35:16 AM
Having not many positive thoughts about the young royals on this forum, I must say I have been deeply impressed with William during his tour of New Zealand and Australia.  He has matured so much since he delivered that rather hasty speech at the Diana Memorial Concert in 2007.  His public speeches are now clear and well delivered and he has handled the public and the press brilliantly - not too familiar yet not too distant either.  Today he toured areas in the state of Victoria, Australia which less than 12 months ago were ravaged by bushfires which claimed 173 lives, destroyed 2029 homes, many properties and innumerable farm animals and wildlife.  The residents, many of whom are still living in caravans or with friends or relatives after the disaster seemed delighted that William spent some time with them.  It has been a short but very successful visit.  I have not heard a word of criticism...from anyone.

Hmm,the Mail hey?...seriously... ::)........

William really touched people,made an impression and a very favourable one at that.
The Mail must have been desperate looking for a fault....

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2010/01/prince-william-meets-wildfire-survivors.html

courtesy hja

http://www.royalimages.nl/search.pp?mailingid=17229

courtesy royalimages.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Ilias_of_John on January 21, 2010, 03:43:15 PM
I took the family to Goverment House yesterday to meet Prince William.
There was 2500 people there, outside, all hoping for a glimpse or even a handshake.
Well,     
all of my kids got a handshalke and a hello, and my wife even had a 1 minute conversation with him.
Just the "standard welcome to Melbourne and please come back for a longer stay, rather than just 16 hours."

I can tell you, he impressed all of us there, just by his open and happy nature,and the Australian media has gone gaga over this very bright and intelligent young man.
And to think, it was an unofficial visit!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on January 21, 2010, 08:44:43 PM
Many, many thanks for sharing your family's personal experience with all of us, Ilias_of_John. I am thrilled for all of you!!! I'm so happy to see Prince William out and about...he's a natural being with people that's for sure. I'm looking so forward to seeing him in this type of situation more and more.

I don't know about you all who post here on the forum, but this girl, who watched his parents get married live on television all those years ago, has been waiting for this type of Royal Tour for a very, very long time. Well done, Prince William, well done!

I know he's a bit shy about doing these types of events and a bit reluctant to start representing the HM, but WOW he is phenomenal at it...really and truly phenomenal ! ! ! All I can say is more, more more ! ! !
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 22, 2010, 03:22:59 PM
I took the family to Goverment House yesterday to meet Prince William.
There was 2500 people there, outside, all hoping for a glimpse or even a handshake.
Well,     
all of my kids got a handshalke and a hello, and my wife even had a 1 minute conversation with him.
Just the "standard welcome to Melbourne and please come back for a longer stay, rather than just 16 hours."

I can tell you, he impressed all of us there, just by his open and happy nature,and the Australian media has gone gaga over this very bright and intelligent young man.
And to think, it was an unofficial visit!

G'day mate: ;D

http://www.royalimages.nl/search.pp?mailingid=17299&flush=1

courtesy royalimages.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Ilias_of_John on January 23, 2010, 04:39:56 AM
 ;) ;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 25, 2010, 01:22:35 PM
;) ;D

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/photos/prince_william/index.html

courtesy hja
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Ilias_of_John on January 25, 2010, 05:54:32 PM
Ther is no doubt that he will one day make an excellent Prince of Wales and wonderful King of Australia............ and of 15 other realms!!!!!!!!


 :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on February 20, 2010, 09:36:46 AM
Prince William taking to the camera,fantastic job,look yourself:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2010/02/william-takes-the-camera-in-own-hands.html

courtesy hja :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: TampaBay on February 26, 2010, 07:56:00 AM
Any news on if and when Kate & William will marry?

We need a good Royal wedding.

TampaBay
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on April 06, 2010, 01:22:41 PM
So, I read today in the nationalpost.com that ... a high-placed source in royal circles said that two days in June have been mysteriously blocked out on the palace diaries — June 3 and 4, which happens to be mid-week. They suggest this is a likely date for the engagement announcement of Prince William and Kate Middleton. If so, a wedding itself would probably follow in the fall, like the wedding of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip.

I know, I know, before you all start throwing things at me, I just thought this is kind of interesting considering the general election is set for the beginning of May.

Could this be true...only time will tell. I'm sure you all can't tell I'm really anxious about this happening.  =  ) It would be brilliant for William and Kate to have their wedding in October/November, and we would get to see Kate's engagement ring...joy!

Generally, does anyone know what the weather is like in London in October?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Michael HR on April 06, 2010, 01:45:48 PM
London in October is grey and often wet, sadly.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on April 07, 2010, 06:45:02 AM
So, I read today in the nationalpost.com that ... a high-placed source in royal circles said that two days in June have been mysteriously blocked out on the palace diaries — June 3 and 4, which happens to be mid-week. They suggest this is a likely date for the engagement announcement of Prince William and Kate Middleton. If so, a wedding itself would probably follow in the fall, like the wedding of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip.

I know, I know, before you all start throwing things at me, I just thought this is kind of interesting considering the general election is set for the beginning of May.

Could this be true...only time will tell. I'm sure you all can't tell I'm really anxious about this happening.  =  ) It would be brilliant for William and Kate to have their wedding in October/November, and we would get to see Kate's engagement ring...joy!

Generally, does anyone know what the weather is like in London in October?
You could be right but I don't understand...if an announcement is to be made about their engagement on that date, why would two days need to be "blocked out" from the palace diaries?  I don't remember that happening on the day of Charles and Diana's engagement? 
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on April 07, 2010, 11:20:32 AM
My thoughts exactly, Grace. But, even the Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/7562314/Prince-William-and-Kate-Middleton-could-announce-engagement-in-June.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/7562314/Prince-William-and-Kate-Middleton-could-announce-engagement-in-June.html) has picked up on this and has posted the same info.

Another thought that I've had since I posted was that Prince William will still be heli training. So, he'd take a quick break from that, make the announcement and jet back to the training facility leaving Kate all by her lonesome. Hmmm, that just doesn't seem to make much sense unless Kate is allowed to move into Clarence House immediately so that she might be protected and shielded from the masses because it will be crazy...totally crazy when it happens.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Marlene on April 07, 2010, 02:32:11 PM
The story is utter nonsense.   No British engagement is going to be announced on the day the duke of Windsor got married.   Buckingham Palace is not going to announce an engagemenet 3 weeks before the Swedish royal wedding.

http://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blogspot.com/2010/04/breaking-news-palace-diaries-blocked.html
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Margot on April 07, 2010, 08:03:29 PM
As most of you probably already know I am not a great admirer of Miss Middleton!

The only real positive I see is that Prince William likes her! I guess on a personal level this is the most important factor. On a frivolous level I will concede that she always appears very well turned out and I grudgingly concede that she would make a wonderful clothes horse for the British Fashion industry to get into a frenzy about, should she become William's wife and future Queen.

But my main gripe with Miss Middleton is that she appears to have done absolutely nothing of any real merit in the seven years that she and William have been together! Has she gone and looked after children in an orphanage in the depths of India or taught English in a refugee camp or done anything worthy and proactive instead of working an a buyer for Jigsaw and being William's girlfriend?

I can think of plenty of young privileged woman of far more well-heeled backgrounds than Miss Middleton, who have actively used their positions in a meaningful way. Lady Edwina Grosvenor is a paragon example of just such a young woman, who worked in Nepal for the Esther Benjamin Trust and is involved in the Prison Service News (Magazine) Here is a perfect example of a young woman who actively seeks to improve the lot of others. Miss Middleton does not appear to have done anything remotely meritorious IMHO and I am bewildered that she seems to have simply sat back and continues to do so, no doubt waiting for her Prince to propose and then to become his wife and the mother of his children! It seems to me a rather telling and less than worthy lifestyle to have lead thus far for any twenty something young woman from a privileged background. Miss Middleton is IMHO almost as vacuous and 'waste of space' - ish as the likes of Ladies Victoria and Isabella Hervey and Peaches Geldof! I wish Miss Middleton would do something really meaningful and of use! If she is to become the wife of William it would be nice to think that Miss Middleton actually did some worthy and gritty things before she settles into life a a future Queen Consort rather than just be remembered for hard partying, working for a fashion house as a buyer and wearing lovely clothes! How mundane!

I appreciate that as the girlfriend of Prince William the media interest in Miss Middleton was for a time very intense until the Palace ordered the Papz to back off some years ago! Since then Miss Middleton does not appear to have taken advantage of this relative respect for her privacy as far as I can tell and continues to jog along being decorous when she could have being something really significant and meaningful, especially in light of her possible position in the future when such activities would be impossible due to her position and status! As far as I can tell Miss Middleton has not taken advantage of this opportunity and simply continues to jog along in her very comfortable zone!

I am aware that she was involved in some charitable causes which instigated some excitement last year but she has hardly done anything worthy IMHO! For this I find Miss Middleton impossible to admire and I think she has done nothing to make herself worthy of becoming a future Queen Consort.  

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on April 08, 2010, 11:09:52 AM
Kate Middleton is now apparently working in her parents' business - nothing very worthy there.

I haven't any particularly strong feelings about her, but really she doesn't seem to be doing much.

Going slightly off topic, I seem to remember that the Earl of Ulster (son of the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester) is married to a doctor. Does anyone know whether she is now practising?

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on April 08, 2010, 12:47:15 PM
Any news on if and when Kate & William will marry?

We need a good Royal wedding.

TampaBay

No news,just the usual "it can't be long now"  nonsense...How many engagement rings that girl already has I don't know,
but I hear there will be an exhibit of 'm at Windsor Castle this fall... ::) ;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: joan_d on April 08, 2010, 01:17:42 PM
Re the above posting my Margo, there was a recent article in the "Daily Mail" to the same effect.   Apparently Kate Middleton's nickname is now "Waity Katie" as she has been waiting around for Prince William for such a long time and not doing very much in the interim.  There was apparently an appearnace on her parents' website (they sell merchandise for children's parties !!) and is was swiftly removed within 20 minutes.

It really looks like we have another scrounger-in-waiting in the shape of Kate Middleton.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on April 08, 2010, 04:17:54 PM
How do any of you know how much work she does or doesn't do?  For all you know, she could be working 12 hour days.  Because she doesn't leave and return to her home at set hours every day doesn't mean she is idle.  William has to choose the right woman and a woman who has already established a high-flying career is not necessarily the right person for THIS very special job.  Leave them alone.

As for the Waity Katie nickname - that's been around for years.  Quite insulting in my opinion.  We don't know she's waiting for anything.  HE could be waiting for HER.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: joan_d on April 09, 2010, 12:27:15 PM
How do any of you know how much work she does or doesn't do?  For all you know, she could be working 12 hour days.  Because she doesn't leave and return to her home at set hours every day doesn't mean she is idle.  William has to choose the right woman and a woman who has already established a high-flying career is not necessarily the right person for THIS very special job.  Leave them alone.

As for the Waity Katie nickname - that's been around for years.  Quite insulting in my opinion.  We don't know she's waiting for anything.  HE could be waiting for HER.

Grace, I was merely quoting from a recent article in the "Daily Mail" - of course I have no personal knowledge ofwhat Ms Middleton does (or doesn't) do.   BUT..... papers such as the Mail do !!!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Margot on April 10, 2010, 10:17:08 AM
Ann, I do believe that Claire Ulster continues to practice. Apparently she used to work at St George's Hospital though I am not certain about that!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kimberly on April 15, 2010, 01:14:11 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1266189/Prince-William-posted-Anglesey.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1266189/Prince-William-posted-Anglesey.html)

Dear gawd.....Anglesey is the armpit of the world. Poor devil :-)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on April 15, 2010, 04:21:56 PM
At least it might silence some of the sceptics who claim he's not serious about his career.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on April 16, 2010, 03:45:34 AM
What is so dreadful about Anglesey? Rather remote, admittedly, but a pleasant agricultural area, and conveniently near to Snowdonia for outdoor buffs.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Martyn on May 04, 2010, 08:50:37 AM
How do any of you know how much work she does or doesn't do?  For all you know, she could be working 12 hour days.  Because she doesn't leave and return to her home at set hours every day doesn't mean she is idle.  William has to choose the right woman and a woman who has already established a high-flying career is not necessarily the right person for THIS very special job.  Leave them alone.

As for the Waity Katie nickname - that's been around for years.  Quite insulting in my opinion.  We don't know she's waiting for anything.  HE could be waiting for HER.

Well said Grace.

Kate is an easy target.  I personally can't see anything objectionable about her, and she is certainly a cut above other royal girlfriends I can think of..........

Besides, these days it seems like the job of consort is now open to anyone who has some staying power........
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on May 16, 2010, 04:03:34 AM
http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2010/05/william-rewards-fairness-and-respect.html

respect hja
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on June 04, 2010, 03:07:03 PM
Well, well, LetsTalkMore.co.uk isn't waiting for any palace announcement. I've never even heard of this site, but they are reporting that Prince William has proposed to Kate Middleton and that an official announcement is eminent. The site is also speculating that the wedding will take place next year.

I'm thinking that it's wishful thinking on LetsTalkMore.co.uk part. Pretty ballsy of them don't you think?!

http://www.letstalkmore.co.uk/royal-engagement-prince-william-pops-the-question-to-kate-middleton/7521031
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on June 05, 2010, 02:30:30 PM
Prince William visited the DMRC at Headley Court,Epsom:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2010/06/william-supporting-recovering-heroes.html

And HRH spoke to the England World Cup team:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2010/06/william-speaks-to-england-world-cup-team.html

courtesy hja
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on June 14, 2010, 02:29:48 AM
Prince William is in SA to comfort the team of british football diva's...especially Green... :o ;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lindelle on June 14, 2010, 06:21:11 AM
Well, well, LetsTalkMore.co.uk isn't waiting for any palace announcement. I've never even heard of this site, but they are reporting that Prince William has proposed to Kate Middleton and that an official announcement is eminent. The site is also speculating that the wedding will take place next year.

I'm thinking that it's wishful thinking on LetsTalkMore.co.uk part. Pretty ballsy of them don't you think?!

http://www.letstalkmore.co.uk/royal-engagement-prince-william-pops-the-question-to-kate-middleton/7521031


I heard the same on our local news just last night.
Maybe they got the report from LetsTalkMore.
It's a Current Affair program and lets face it, they'need stories, so they'll make anything up.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Carisbrooke on June 14, 2010, 07:14:15 AM
Prince William is in SA to comfort the team of british football diva's...especially Green... :o ;D
   The British football team ???
Don't know about diva's either, though you could mean prima donna's. Anyway it's not all over till the fat lady sings    :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Constantinople on June 14, 2010, 09:40:41 AM
Yes but drawing with the US is an omen of sorts.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Carisbrooke on June 15, 2010, 07:02:56 AM
  I just wish that fat lady had been our goalie last saturday.   :)              Yes I know, get back on thread.

WILLIAM & HARRY ON AFRICA TOUR       A short news clip, 1.35 mins

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10315566.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10315566.stm)

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lindelle on June 16, 2010, 01:22:19 AM
Who ya callin' fat?  ;)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on June 17, 2010, 01:03:08 AM
The Prince and the curse of any game in SA,...or should I say sepp Blatter country as that fascistoide dictator
of the FIFA controls all in SA...(Sepp Blatter,President of the FIFA,the Global Football Ass.)

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2010/06/even-prince-william-uses-the-vuvuzela.html

 ::) ;D

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2010/06/william-ready-for-role-as-goalkeeper.html

courtesy hja
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Constantinople on June 17, 2010, 05:04:53 AM
If there is one word I want to disappear from the world's vocabulary it is the word vuvenzela.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on June 17, 2010, 08:59:56 AM
If there is one word I want to disappear from the world's vocabulary it is the word vuvenzela.

And I´m sure the world agrees with that Constantinople.Bishop Tutu said last night that if one comes to SA one should enjoy all of SA.

He forgot to mention that that unspeakeble idiotic thing,the vuvuhola,was only introduced by a nutcase 10 years ago.it has ab-so-lu-te-ly
nothing to do with SA,they just love the noise...hmm... :-X
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lindelle on June 18, 2010, 12:09:49 AM
I'm completely over it.
In fact, I think it quite rude to play it when you have guests visiting and listening - via radio/tv.
Imagaine if you paid to watch the games and all you hear instead of the commentary is THAT!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on June 18, 2010, 01:00:30 PM
The Boys in Africa;

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/photos/prince_william/index.html

courtesy hja :D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Douglas on June 18, 2010, 07:14:04 PM
If there is one word I want to disappear from the world's vocabulary it is the word vuvenzela.

let's also get rid of 'irregardless'.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Constantinople on June 18, 2010, 09:45:13 PM
I loathe notwithstanding more
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: miki_nastya on June 21, 2010, 04:15:14 AM
  Today it's his birthday HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Olga Maria on June 21, 2010, 04:36:34 AM
A Very Happy 28th birthday to HRH William, Prince of Wales!
I wish him everything good in this Earth. God save the 2nd heir to the throne of UKGB and NI and its Commonwealth.

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Windsor on June 22, 2010, 11:38:05 AM
If the latest news is to be believed, now William and Kate are living together.  My how things have changed since the last generation of royals!  If he loves the woman enough to live with her I think he should marry her!  And yes, I do think that as a royal and presumed future head of the Church of England Wills should be held to a higher standard - comes with the territory along with all the perks.  And on that same note, I am a bit disappointed in the Queen for allowing the situation.  While it might be unpleasant, I think it is part of her "job."  Unless she is now just a figure head and no longer wields any power........Just one persons observations - let the criticisms begin ;-)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on June 22, 2010, 02:24:44 PM
Hello Windsor,

How timely is your post! The Daily Mail has a new article (as of last night) bringing up the same points as you have. You can access it here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1288518/The-way-Royals-treating-Kate-Middleton-pure-bad-manners.html.

Personally, I found the article refreshing. Finally, someone else out there who feels the same as I do and has the good sense of putting it to writing. Instead of the typical "Kate bashing/Middleton Family bashing" article, the criticism is being directed at the Royal Family.

I agree 100% about William shying away from his duties as I have said so on this board in the past. Hiding away in the armed services is just pathetic...really it is. Truth be told he's not a full time serving member of the armed forces. He breaks away for his royal engagements and steals away for long get-a-ways with his friends, his family or Kate's family. If I were in the Middleton family, I would have said enough is enough. Put up or shut up, William.

I understand if others here do not agree; however, these are MY opinions as harsh as they may seem.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Windsor on June 22, 2010, 03:51:37 PM
Thank you for the link, RoyalWatcher!  It, coupled with your comments, makes me realize I am not alone in my opinions.  Not to belabor the point, but Prince Williams is a grown man enjoying all the perks of the position but not living up to the obligations associated with it.  And once again, how disappointing that the senior royals, the Queen in particular, are allowing this behavior.  What a slap in the face to those who came before and lived up to their obligations - and the people's expectations!  I think his popularity will go the way of his hair line ;-) 
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Constantinople on June 22, 2010, 04:31:14 PM
Well his hairline seems to be moving up.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on June 22, 2010, 04:54:26 PM
How on earth does the Daily Mail know how the Windsors treat the Middletons?  I'm sure that as their daughter has been the girlfriend of William for years now, they would be aware of the protocols the family use.  How does it know the details of William and Kate’s relationship or whether they’re even ‘living together’ or not?  Talk about presumptuous!  I’d agree that if they are living together after all these years, they should marry but we can’t and don’t know the situation.  As I’ve said before, maybe SHE doesn’t really want to marry HIM with all the problems it will bring her.

The Daily Mail has been known for its subtle ‘royal bashing’ for years.  And this article is just the opinion of one of its writers.   
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lindelle on June 23, 2010, 03:01:42 AM
Daily Mail is looking for trouble.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on June 23, 2010, 08:20:31 AM
How on earth does the Daily Mail know how the Windsors treat the Middletons?  I'm sure that as their daughter has been the girlfriend of William for years now, they would be aware of the protocols the family use.  How does it know the details of William and Kate’s relationship or whether they’re even ‘living together’ or not?  Talk about presumptuous!  I’d agree that if they are living together after all these years, they should marry but we can’t and don’t know the situation.  As I’ve said before, maybe SHE doesn’t really want to marry HIM with all the problems it will bring her.

The Daily Mail has been known for its subtle ‘royal bashing’ for years.  And this article is just the opinion of one of its writers.   

I agree with you...the article is just muck raking but it has to be remembered.....Whatever Williams faults and he seems to want his cake and to eat it...Kate does not come out of things well either...why is she hanging around???  she is little better than a geisha...no career or proper job...no proper position... just hanging on...clinging like ivy!!..The only time she seemed  to get motivated was when William broke up with her...she soon put herself out and about and ensnared him back....WAS THAT A GOOD THING???...Time will yell!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Constantinople on June 23, 2010, 12:41:30 PM
Well mistresses are no stranger to royals so if you imagine Kate as the trainer that prepares Will for marriage then you can get a few of those noses back in joint.  Until he is married, it probably doesnt matter that much what sort of relationship they have.  My feeling is that when will gets closer to actually sitting on the throne, which probably wont be for at least 30 years, he might find a more appropriate match, then again, given the role models of Uncle Andrew, his father and Princess Margaret, perhaps that is too much to ask for.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on June 24, 2010, 03:20:13 AM
http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2010/06/prince-william-gets-fellowship.html

courtesy hja
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Constantinople on June 24, 2010, 05:04:31 AM
Does anyone know what Prince William's polo handicap is?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: heavensent on July 19, 2010, 11:02:21 AM
In all of the years watching Prince Charles  ..  I  cant remember him  once playing cricket
.... which is after all the national game of England

William the Cricketing Prince...  is about to change all that

go  here
http://celebheaven.freepowerboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=82&t=489&p=953#p953




.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Margot on July 19, 2010, 04:37:38 PM
Good to see! I too have trouble trying to remember ever seeing or hearing of the Prince of Wales being closely associated with or playing cricket! I know the Duke of Edinburgh is a keen fan of cricket and the Earl of Wessex too, so it is nice that at least William in the next generation appears to have an enthusiasm for the team sport which is my personal favourite!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on October 19, 2010, 10:20:50 AM
I searched the forum and found this topics

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=8109.0
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=8498.0
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=10413.0

They are big, so a new topic about William and maybe his future wife Kate.



There are rumours that their engagement will announced at Friday. Hope it´s true!
But in the last years there were so many rumours, maybe it´s just nonsense.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kimberly on October 20, 2010, 02:33:39 AM
There is this from the Daily Fail !
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1322042/Wedding-time-Kate-Middleton-grew-.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1322042/Wedding-time-Kate-Middleton-grew-.html)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on October 20, 2010, 04:06:02 AM
What a load of garbage.  How do any of them know what Kate does or doesn't do work-wise or how mature she is?  She's never even granted an interview yet!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 16, 2010, 12:39:41 AM
The Prince was in Afghanistan attending Remembrance Day ceremonies at Camp Bastion:


http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?page=2&ShowPicture=14252318&pos=13

Courtesy ANP
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 16, 2010, 05:46:36 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330151/Prince-William-Kate-Middleton-engaged-marry-2011.html


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11765422

The Clarence house announced the engagement of William and Kate!!
A photo session this afternoon!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Teddy on November 16, 2010, 06:22:54 AM
Must I buy again another tailcoat  ;)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 16, 2010, 06:33:10 AM
On several forums the happiness was quite .. lame.  ;D
Not everybody is lucky about that. But if he is lucky, than good for him!!

But her family, ha....
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 16, 2010, 06:44:03 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330151/Prince-William-Kate-Middleton-engaged-marry-2011.html


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11765422

The Clarence house announced the engagement of William and Kate!!
A photo session this afternoon!


http://princeofwales.gov.uk/

http://facebook.com/TheBritishMonarchy

Cheers William and Catherine!! :)

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 16, 2010, 06:46:53 AM
On several forums the happiness was quite .. lame.  ;D
Not everybody is lucky about that. But if he is lucky, than good for him!!

But her family, ha....

If he's,they!! are happy then that is all that counts....there have been that sort of wills and kate guerillas over the years
on boards and fora everywhere,sheer jealousy..... ::)...who cares..Finally!I'm delighted for both.Bless Them :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 16, 2010, 06:51:20 AM
I want to see photos now! I´m so excited!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 16, 2010, 07:02:17 AM
I want to see photos now! I´m so excited!

A short while there will be a press conference and photo shoot soon. :)

They engaged in Kenia during a private visit in october,how romantic.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 16, 2010, 07:03:10 AM
The Countess of Wessex was asked as first member of the family and she was very delighted.

(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8247/73123928.jpg)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 16, 2010, 07:04:01 AM
The Countess of Wessex was asked as first member of the family and she was very delighted.

(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8247/73123928.jpg)

Just watched it.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 16, 2010, 07:05:48 AM
http://atdhe.net/watch-bbc-news.php

For not only me and Lucien here :)
I thought I wouldn´t care, but no! I failed, ;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 16, 2010, 07:10:05 AM
http://atdhe.net/watch-bbc-news.php

For not only me and Lucien here :)

LOL!!We're going to pull something simular to Victoria and Daniels day next year Rani,we'' ll make this Forum rock again,
with all links and details possible.Can't wait! ;D..We had close to 35.000 visitors to V & D's thread last june,that was incredible

Oh,and sticky,can a fellow Mod please make this a sticky thing?Thanks! ;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 16, 2010, 07:14:51 AM
I look forward to this! That was really great with Vickan and Daniel.  ;)

Don´t forget Charlene and Albert!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 16, 2010, 07:45:35 AM
I look forward to this! That was really great with Vickan and Daniel.  ;)

Don´t forget Charlene and Albert!
Oh,but that's a tad different,a HSH can't match a future King of England,nunca...different breed too,
they're all yours in Monaco.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 16, 2010, 07:47:28 AM
Press conferenc at 16.45 GMT,documentary on BBC Two at 18.30 GMT
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 16, 2010, 07:49:57 AM
Quote
Oh,but that's a tad different,a HSH can't match a future King of England,nunca...different breed too,
they're all yours in Monaco.. Grin Grin Grin

You´re bad!

(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Rires/lol2.gif)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 16, 2010, 08:48:46 AM
Glad they finally did it. They will then ask for the baby...such is the press...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 16, 2010, 09:38:00 AM
Glad they finally did it. They will then ask for the baby...such is the press...

...Or the Boards and Fora for that matter...some see a bump already... ::).....
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 16, 2010, 09:57:47 AM
Oh get serious !  :D I don't think Miss Catherine will get a foot wrong here...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 16, 2010, 10:19:29 AM
Miss Catherine has played her cards very well till no...so there will be no baby till the time is right..
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on November 16, 2010, 10:19:36 AM
OH MY GOODNESS! It has finally happened. FINALLY ! ! !

Congratulations to them both….no one puts on a royal wedding better than the Brits! I am looking so forward to it.

I cannot wait to see what ring was selected. This is a happy day. = )
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 16, 2010, 10:36:12 AM
She got the engagement ring of her late MIL!
Hmm... Not a good idea IMO.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on November 16, 2010, 10:44:14 AM
Is that accurate Rani?  Where was that reported?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Emperor of the Dominions on November 16, 2010, 10:46:12 AM
Congratulations to the happy couple !

The predictions on this site were accurate and all of us here in the UK are delighted at such good news; when we need it most !

I'm surprised at the choice of using Diana's engagement ring and I hope they will have better luck than that of the original recipient. Let's hope also that she will be more protected from the press than William's mother!

R.I.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 16, 2010, 10:54:03 AM
Is that accurate Rani?  Where was that reported?

BBC reported that the Clarence house said it.
Many are suprised by that, because Harry got her ring after her death.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on November 16, 2010, 11:03:43 AM
I see you are right - BBC does report that Clarence House said William had given his fiance his late mother's ring.  I suppose it is good - the only true way to clean away bad associations is by creating new positive ones.  And besides - that ring is too fantastic to be wasted away in a jewelry vault!

I also seemed to recall reading / hearing that Harry had inherited the ring from Diana.  Perhaps that was just a rumor at the time.  Either way, I'm glad we'll see that ring on the hand of a future Princess of Wales and Queen, instead of going to Harry's future wife and being passed down to a new branch of the family.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 16, 2010, 11:04:40 AM
(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7944/16651867.jpg)


(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8158/unbenanntao.jpg)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 16, 2010, 11:06:34 AM
(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8255/gggdy.jpg)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 16, 2010, 11:15:12 AM
How sweet !  ;)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on November 16, 2010, 11:18:37 AM
Since it seems unlikely they will saddle poor Miss Kate with the title "HRH Princess William of Wales" after the marriage, I wonder what title William will be given?  Will it be Duke of Connaught, Clarence, Cambridge, or perhaps Sussex?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 16, 2010, 11:20:46 AM
Better pic
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/193834602.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1289928907&Signature=uWob8PC01INfoOPdaWG3TbXMXLA%3D)


I heard it´s Cambridge or Sussex.

Pics of the Kate parents

http://www.gettyimages.es/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=106106581&EditorialProduct=Royalty
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 16, 2010, 11:23:24 AM
(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0f7l5IQ4iA3Y2/610x.jpg)

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09U5eI50VL2Kh/610x.jpg)

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/01o1evO7dYe9E/x610.jpg)

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/098G1z8er98SE/x610.jpg)

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/01o1evO7dYe9E/x610.jpg)

(thanks to MichelleJ from RD)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 16, 2010, 11:38:38 AM
(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0207ftl15ogFY/x610.jpg)

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08vobiO2Ke3U7/x610.jpg)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Teddy on November 16, 2010, 12:29:35 PM
What I'm wondering about is: Who of the foreign Royal Houses will attend their wedding? Prince William attend none of the weddings, funerals of the last years. Always his father or one of his uncles/aunts were in attendence. In the last years I have always wondered why Prince William and Harry were not seen at any Royal event abroad! No public appearance for example at the wedding of Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden for example, while Prince William is also heir to a throne (after his father).
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 16, 2010, 12:41:25 PM
I would think all the CP couples and younger royals.


(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07Y22al6csfEK/x610.jpg)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 16, 2010, 12:47:14 PM
What I'm wondering about is: Who of the foreign Royal Houses will attend their wedding? Prince William attend none of the weddings, funerals of the last years. Always his father or one of his uncles/aunts were in attendence. In the last years I have always wondered why Prince William and Harry were not seen at any Royal event abroad! No public appearance for example at the wedding of Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden for example, while Prince William is also heir to a throne (after his father).

All Royal Houses,Reigning or not,will attend I'm sure.That Charles attended here there,but not in Sweden,is because he's a senior Royal and is a generation buddy to most,further,the Brits are a bit too over the top on their own "weight".William is different tho,but Granny decides who goes where and when in the wedding and funeral department.They will have to beat the Swedish event tho,which will be a challenge as it was of a un-static non-pompous event with extremely fantastic coverage as we all know,I wonder what's going to happen in the ins- and outs department,preparations have begun.But,whoever attends or not,I wish William and Catherine all the very best!!

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Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on November 16, 2010, 06:16:35 PM

Queen Kate..... sounds rather ordinary I guess. Hopefully they will give her a proper name when Queen Consort...

How strange it is to see all the former Royal Houses being so VERY bourgeoise nowadays.... Queen Kate......
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Robert_Hall on November 16, 2010, 07:07:00 PM
From what I have read so far, she prefers "Catherine".
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: kratos on November 16, 2010, 10:48:14 PM
The American media is going nuts over "The Future Queen Kate"
But will she really be made Queen/Princess of Wales? Or will she be, "Princess Catherine, Duchess-of-to-be-determined, in the same vein as Prince Phillip?


Does Queen Elizabeth determine the protocol, or is it a popularity contest, similar to Camilla's title of Duchess instead of Princess?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Mari on November 16, 2010, 11:43:35 PM
Congratulations to the happy Couple...as you know by now the engagement ring is the late Princess Diana's. Prince William said it was a way of keeping his Mother close as She could not be there! I thought it was extremely thoughtful and sweet of him to feel he needed to include his Mother in some way in his Wedding. As to the ring I hope their Marriage will be so happy it will change the image of the ring from one of a failed Marriage to one of a successful one... 
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 17, 2010, 12:56:52 AM

Queen Kate..... sounds rather ordinary I guess. Hopefully they will give her a proper name when Queen Consort...

How strange it is to see all the former Royal Houses being so VERY bourgeoise nowadays.... Queen Kate......

The Prince of Wales used her proper names in the announcement:Catherine Elisabeth,and she shall be known
under that name regardless what the vox populi calls her.

@ Kratos,She will be Princess William of Wales,HM decides if and which ducal title she gives William upon his
marriage,and as a courtesy she will also hold her husbands title.William is not the Heir but Heir Apparant.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 17, 2010, 05:52:54 AM

Queen Kate..... sounds rather ordinary I guess. Hopefully they will give her a proper name when Queen Consort...

How strange it is to see all the former Royal Houses being so VERY bourgeoise nowadays.... Queen Kate......
We have had in the very distant past several Queen Katherines/Catherines...the last being Charles II's long suffering wife.Henry VIII  had 3 ives by that name!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Constantinople on November 17, 2010, 09:00:01 AM
She will immediately (after the wedding) become Princess Katherine and eventually Queen Katherine.

One of her more telling quotes:
 "My friends used to tell me I was lucky to have Prince William but I tell them he is lucky to have me."  An amazing quote from the daughter of mail order entrepreneurs.  This should be an interesting marriage.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on November 17, 2010, 09:27:06 AM
She will never be Princess Catherine, no more than Diana was ever Princess Diana.

In Britain, the only people who are entitled to use their first name with the title of Princess are the daughters of a King or the daughters of the sons of a King.  Anne, Alexandria, Beatrice, and Eugenie are the only living women entitled to be Princess X.  All the others (Camilla, Sophie, Birgette of Glouchester, Katherine of Kent and Michael of Kent) are not Princesses, they hold their style by courtesy only due to their marriages.

As of this moment, upon marriage Miss Middleton will become only HRH Princess William of Wales (the royal equivalent of Mrs. William Wales), not Princess Catherine.  If William happens to have been given a dukedom on marriage, she would then be officially titled HRH Princess William of Wales, The Duchess of X. 
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Constantinople on November 17, 2010, 09:32:33 AM
You may be correct but she will be called Princess Catherine all the same. And she will be Queen Catherine just the same as Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth, the Queen mother were.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Robert_Hall on November 17, 2010, 12:13:25 PM
I agree with Chris, but, the media will turn her into "Princess Catherine" in any case. Just as they  did with Diana.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 17, 2010, 01:26:01 PM
I think the media will continue to call her "Kate" like they did with "Di" with Diana, unofficially of course. Also people will be looking at what gems the Queen will give her grandson's bride. I don't know what she gave the bride of her other grandson Peter Philips's wife though...Another thing is that William did not have the large allowance his father has, so "Kate" will not have as many gowns as her late mother-in-law.  :(
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: kratos on November 17, 2010, 01:40:41 PM
Thanks Lucien, and Constantinople, for clearing that up.


Eric - I'm sure she'll look fine in whatever she wears. She has good fashion sense. Notice how she wore a fairly simple dress in the engagement announcement? She was trying to flatter the engagement ring. :)
I wonder what tiara she'll wear for the wedding? She'd look beautiful in the lover's knot tiara, but somehow I can't see her wearing that one. It's just too tied to diana.

But all the others seem to heavy for her. She's tiny!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 17, 2010, 01:50:07 PM
I would prefer the Strathmore Rose Tiara

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Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 17, 2010, 01:51:30 PM
Yes. I don't think the lover's knot would have been a good good choice being too tied to Diana. However there is not much to choose from. Most of the light tiaras had been chosen. The Queen Mother's bandeau was passed to Princess Margaret and now graced the brow of Serena Linley, while the Princess Andrew's Greek meander tiara belongs to the Princess Royal. Another good choice is the diamond sunburst tiara the Queen wore for her own wedding to Philip Mountbatten. The dramatic piece would have been perfect with Catherine's long hair. However I think the Queen is very attached to that piece. All the others are too big and powerful for her...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 17, 2010, 01:55:15 PM
The Strathmore Rose Tiara is indeed a good choice. But did it belong to the Strathmore family rather than the late Queen Mum ? It would be like borrowing the Spencer Tiara for Kate ? Otherwise in terms of light weight, it would be perfect and not too overpowering like Camillla's Dunbar Tiara...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 17, 2010, 01:59:03 PM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40948000/jpg/_40948392_gallery_camilla.jpg)
(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2007/11/24/va1237279040548/Duchess-of-Cornwall-AP-5767352.jpg)
I find this tiaras terrible. Too big.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: kratos on November 17, 2010, 02:01:42 PM
Rani - it is beautiful. The perfect size for Kate!

Eric - whatever she wears on her wedding day, I'm sure it'll be perfect for her. I can see her in something with pearls, similar to the lover's knot.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: kratos on November 17, 2010, 02:04:09 PM
Rani - ick! Those look like the tiaras that little girls win in pageants. And the bottom one looks inspired by the grill of an 18-wheeler.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 17, 2010, 02:58:26 PM
Kratos...I absolutely agree with you on this ! She looked like a faded Miss World with the big tiara & big hair...Something light would be better for Kate.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 17, 2010, 02:59:50 PM
The Strathmore Rose Tiara is indeed a good choice. But did it belong to the Strathmore family rather than the late Queen Mum ? It would be like borrowing the Spencer Tiara for Kate ? Otherwise in terms of light weight, it would be perfect and not too overpowering like Camillla's Dunbar Tiara...
The Strathmore rose tiara gets its name because it was given to the late Queen Mother in 1923 by her father Lord Strathmore.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: kratos on November 17, 2010, 03:08:16 PM
ashdean - i wonder if kate's father could afford a simple tiara for his daughter's wedding? i know he has money.
edit: i just think kate needs something a bit more modern. she doesn't seem like the antique type.

eric - camilla is such a head scratcher. she dresses like an 80 year old woman headed to church on Easter, but she wears such big, flashy jewelry. i don't understand her at all.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 17, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
Yes. I don't think the lover's knot would have been a good good choice being too tied to Diana. However there is not much to choose from. Most of the light tiaras had been chosen. The Queen Mother's bandeau was passed to Princess Margaret and now graced the brow of Serena Linley, while the Princess Andrew's Greek meander tiara belongs to the Princess Royal. Another good choice is the diamond sunburst tiara the Queen wore for her own wedding to Philip Mountbatten. The dramatic piece would have been perfect with Catherine's long hair. However I think the Queen is very attached to that piece. All the others are too big and powerful for her...
The tiara the Queen wore on her wedding day and which originally was made for Queen Mary who passed it on to the late Queen Mother in the 1930s would be perfect....The Queen inherited from her mother in 2002 and has worn it once scince but of course prefers the much grander fringe tiara (as these tiaras are..not sunburst)  originally given to Queen Alexandra & which she has worn scince inheriting from her grandmother in 1953.
There is  a modest choice of simpler tiaras in the royal vault apart from a new creation from existing pieces...these include the Cartier scroll tiara originally bought by her husband circa 1935 for the future Queen Mother...the diamond tiara with central sapphire worn by Queen Mary and later Princess Margaret which the current Queen inherited from her mother (this tiara is wrongly often stated to have belonged to the Dowager Empress of Russia).
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 17, 2010, 03:20:10 PM


camilla is such a head scratcher. she dresses like an 80 year old woman headed to church on Easter, but she wears such big, flashy jewelry. i don't understand her at all.
Camilla wears what she has been given....obviously she cannot seem to carry the big diadems off with the same aplomb as the previous wearer the Queen Mother...but no doubt she knows that certain occasions demand important gems...and she no doubt also has to please her husband who likes her decked in his grandmothers gems....no doubt he looks forward to the day when she can wear the crown ruby parure hich his grandmother hung onto till her death.
Camillas own taste in gems for more modest  occasions seems rather charming especially her taste for pairs of brooches...pansies,toucans etc
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 17, 2010, 03:22:07 PM
(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6630/elizabethenphilip201147a.jpg)

(http://www.forum.princess-diana.com/userpix/85_Spencer_tiara_1.jpg) The Spencere Tiara? But they have to get the permission of Lord Spencer.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: kratos on November 17, 2010, 03:28:49 PM
I don't know about the spencer tiara. Isn't it still touring in the Diana exhibit, along with her dresses?

Oh, the Fringe tiara would be lovely on her, though
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 17, 2010, 03:35:08 PM
(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6630/elizabethenphilip201147a.jpg)

(http://www.forum.princess-diana.com/userpix/85_Spencer_tiara_1.jpg) The Spencere Tiara? But they have to get the permission of Lord Spencer.
I somehow dont think the Sencer tiara will be a option
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 17, 2010, 03:46:52 PM
Okay, read now that just Spencer women can wear it. Who were born or marry into the Spencer family.

Crescent Tiara


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Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 17, 2010, 04:40:26 PM
I agree that the Cartier scroll would fit a modern princess like Catherine perfectly. However it had not seen the light of day since the late Princess Margaret had worn it...The crescent tiara (which come from Mary of Cambridge, Duchess of Teck if I am not mistaken) would be lovely too. I think part of that tiara is detatchable. It can do double duty for Catherine.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on November 18, 2010, 02:20:41 AM

I think Queen Mary's loop tiara would suit her perfectly (if well draped) for its light design, as would Princess Andrew of Greece's "Greec key". Or perhaps she should just fix some of Queen Alexandra's diamond stars on her hair.

I would also like to see the Oriental circlet on her head - whether it is too large.

And as for Camilla's tastes: I think she dresses quite suiting and nice. You should look at the York Princesses and especially to the Countess of Wessex - those are really bourgeoise!

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 18, 2010, 03:13:28 AM
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Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Tsar on November 18, 2010, 06:18:01 AM
Many Congrats to His Royal Highness and Ms Middleton!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 18, 2010, 07:17:14 AM
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Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 18, 2010, 07:57:23 AM
http://www.zimbio.com/Kate+Middleton

(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4373/princewilliam278x400.jpg)

They were here already engaged, and all magazines wrote how pity this it that she went to so many weddings while she would never marry!
Liars :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on November 18, 2010, 08:21:21 AM
Not to continue down an off-topic topic, but I wouldn't be surprised if Camilla's choice of jewelry is due in great part to Charles' influence. 

But it is also probably due to practicality.  The Queen is a bit careful when loaning out her own regular pieces, and Camilla can't very well wear anything that Diana regularly wore.  That leaves with two collections to choose from:  either the dusty pieces that have been locked up in vaults for decades because the Queen herself doesn't seem to prefer them, or the pieces that the Queen Mother held during her lifetime.  And both collections seem to be comprised mostly of huge, ancient looking pieces.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 18, 2010, 10:08:18 AM
Good point Chris!

But they are still horrible :)


(http://search.tvnz.co.nz/photogallery/images/gallery/news/wed_camwd.jpg)

Hats looks on her really good!

(http://www.carnaval.com/cityguides/london/london/Camilla_parker.jpg)

Camilla was pretty.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 18, 2010, 10:14:56 AM
But back to Kate

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330700/Kate-Middleton-chosen-Westminster-Abbey-Royal-wedding-Prince-William.html
(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8876/ad528b61b8d3c5dcfullsiz.jpg)

Love this one. But it´s not conservative enough I guess.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 18, 2010, 10:25:09 AM
Thomas, The "Greek Key" or meander tiara now belonged to the Princess Royal who wore it a lot, so there is a no go. The loop tiara , which is the one the Queen like to wear a lot (used to belong to Miechen, Grand Duchess Marie Paulovna the elder, grandmother of Princess Marina, Duchess of Kent), so Kate would not get that either. She need one she could wear (like Diana got the lovers-knot tiara & emerald necklace before her marriage, but chose to wear her own family tiara instead). I think the Queen Mother Cartier scroll or Cambridge cresent are the best choices.  :)

As for the dress, the current fashion is the more slim dress (rather than the bell shaped one Diana wore) with a bussle and train. That would flatter her figure and long hair. She could look like a Norman or Saxon bride...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 18, 2010, 10:27:34 AM
I´m so old fashioned :(

 ;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 18, 2010, 10:33:03 AM
Well...we are all old fashioned to root for royalty !  ;)

I wonder if Kate would have her long hair up or let it drape on her shoulders.  :D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 18, 2010, 12:13:49 PM
I agree that the Cartier scroll would fit a modern princess like Catherine perfectly. However it had not seen the light of day since the late Princess Margaret had worn it...The crescent tiara (which come from Mary of Cambridge, Duchess of Teck if I am not mistaken) would be lovely too. I think part of that tiara is detatchable. It can do double duty for Catherine.
Princess Anne often wore the Cartier scroll tiara in her late teens/early twenties including for a state opening of parliment.... by then her aunt had given up wearing it.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Constantinople on November 18, 2010, 12:19:53 PM
The second tiara that Camilla is wearing looks like she wants to be Pope due the golden arch in the rear of the photo.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 18, 2010, 12:20:32 PM
But the Cartier scroll is not hers like the Greek Key or meander that was "given" to her right ? Not sure about that.  ???
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 18, 2010, 01:55:48 PM
But the Cartier scroll is not hers like the Greek Key or meander that was "given" to her right ? Not sure about that.  ???
The Cartier scroll is thought to have been just loaned to her as it was to Princess Margaret.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 18, 2010, 04:49:30 PM
Well...Then Catherine may have a chance to recieve that.It will suit her welll.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on November 18, 2010, 07:38:33 PM
Plus, as is always remarked, who knows what treasures lurk in the royal vaults ready to be brought back to light in original condition or reset in a more modern way?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Vecchiolarry on November 18, 2010, 10:27:37 PM
Hi,

My 2 cents:-

I think that The Queen should entitle William as Duke of Cambridge..
This would link him back to his ancestors The Duke of Cambridge, his 4 times great grandfather and his daughter Mary Adelaide of Cambridge from whom they're all descended....

Also, the tiara that The Queen wore on her wedding day would link Catherine to her, strickly in a 'jewelled' way..
And, the tiara is modest enough to be demure and grand enough (in a royal fringed way) to make a statement...

What do you think - - am I off base here or does it make sense???

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 19, 2010, 08:04:08 AM
Hi,

My 2 cents:-

I think that The Queen should entitle William as Duke of Cambridge..
This would link him back to his ancestors The Duke of Cambridge, his 4 times great grandfather and his daughter Mary Adelaide of Cambridge from whom they're all descended....

Also, the tiara that The Queen wore on her wedding day would link Catherine to her, strickly in a 'jewelled' way..
And, the tiara is modest enough to be demure and grand enough (in a royal fringed way) to make a statement...

What do you think - - am I off base here or does it make sense???

Larry

No,you're not off the mark,I'm with you.But,there's a lot of water in the Thames between now and then..
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 19, 2010, 11:25:03 AM
There is already speculation that William would be make Duke of Cambridge on his wedding day (like his Uncle Andrew was made Duke of York on his wedding day). So Catherine would walk into church as Miss Catherine Middlteton and walk out HRH Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge.

I like the fringe too, but so it seems the queen too. The fact she gave Diana the lovers-knot is thatshe hadn't been wearing that for ages. So prepare for old dusty tiaras like the Teck Crescent or Cartier Scholl to see the light again.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 19, 2010, 11:43:56 AM
There is already speculation that William would be make Duke of Cambridge on his wedding day (like his Uncle Andrew was made Duke of York on his wedding day). So Catherine would walk into church as Miss Catherine Middlteton and walk out HRH Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge.

I like the fringe too, but so it seems the queen too. The fact she gave Diana the lovers-knot is thatshe hadn't been wearing that for ages. So prepare for old dusty tiaras like the Teck Crescent or Cartier Scholl to see the light again.
The Queen did not have the fringe (she wore on her wedding day) to give to Diana.....it was the property of the Queen mother till  her death in 2002.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 19, 2010, 11:46:45 AM
Oh...I see the Queen had another fringe (from Queen Alexandra) and another from Queen Victoria (think called Hannoverian fringe). She could have lent her the Russian Alexandra fringe to Diana.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 19, 2010, 11:47:28 AM
Hi,

My 2 cents:

Also, the tiara that The Queen wore on her wedding day would link Catherine to her, strickly in a 'jewelled' way..
And, the tiara is modest enough to be demure and grand enough (in a royal fringed way) to make a statement...

What do you think - - am I off base here or does it make sense???

Larry
I agree too...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 19, 2010, 11:50:20 AM
Oh...I see the Queen had another fringe (from Queen Alexandra) and another from Queen Victoria (think called Hannoverian fringe). She could have lent her the Russian Alexandra fringe to Diana.
The Alexandra fringe (which is the grandest) seems to be reserved for Queens only.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 19, 2010, 11:57:09 AM
Yes. I think so even though it was given to a Princess of Wales instead of a Queen. Maybe there is a chance Catherine will get the Hannoverian fringe for her wedding. It would make her look more like a fairy queen than ever. In the tradition of Diana, The Queen might also give her some diamond necklace or gem brooches from Queen Mary's extensive trove of jewels.  ;)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on November 19, 2010, 03:43:55 PM
I believe that Catherine will be given the Lover's Knot tiara - for two reasons. 

First, she has already been given Diana's engagement ring (which seems to me far more personal and linked to the late princess than any tiara could be).  Said another way, if she can wear that ring, why not the tiara too?

And secondly, if the Lover's Knot didn't go to Catherine, who else is going to wear it?  It will never grace the head of the Duchess of Cornwall, even if/when she becomes Princess Consort.  It also is one of the "fine" pieces that aren't usually given to minor relatives, so it's not likely to be given to Beatrice or Eugenie.  So if it doesn't go to Kate - that means it would have to be locked up in a vault for the next 25 years until some future daughter of William / Kate's is old enough to wear it.  That's certainly not likely.

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on November 19, 2010, 03:44:49 PM
I forgot to add - I don't necessarily mean that Kate will wear that tiara to her wedding (although she might), just that she will probably be given it.....
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Vecchiolarry on November 19, 2010, 04:22:36 PM
Hi,

Thank you Lucien & Ashdean for your agreement of my 2 cents worth.

The Queen doesn't necessarily have to permanently give her wedding tiara to Catherine;  but just a 'lender' for the day!!
I think it looks nice with a veil and demurely spectacular or spectacularly demure (take your pick) for a future princess, duchess, queen!!!
Not that I am any expert on fashion or tiaras...

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: TampaBay on November 20, 2010, 07:16:13 AM
Plus, as is always remarked, who knows what treasures lurk in the royal vaults ready to be brought back to light in original condition or reset in a more modern way?

GD Ella,

Since the Queen seems to be forced to cleaned out the jewelry valut in preparation for this wedding, I see no reason why she cannot loan to me the sapphire tiara and matching parure to wear to this weeding!  LOL! LOL!

TampaBay
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: bonbon823 on November 20, 2010, 09:59:41 AM
I'm partial to emeralds...any tiaras with those??  lol
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 20, 2010, 07:08:40 PM
http://tudorswiki.sho.com/page/More+British+Royal+Tiaras

(http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/TcMPdpFrfYzeDvFhGGzGTA72951/GW241H128)

Queen Victoria's Emerald and Diamond Tiara, owned now by Earl and Countess of Harewood
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Patrick M on November 20, 2010, 08:14:56 PM
There are at least a dozen tiaras that are not frequently worn -- some have not been seen in decades. And if Alexandra's are intact, the number is even higher. I hope that she receives two -- the Strathmore for the wedding and the Lover's Knot for her first overseas tour. In a fantasy world, the Windsors could get their hands on Q Victoria's sapphire tiara that the Harewoods sold years ago. It would be perfect on Kate, given its size and her young age.  

I also wonder if we will see the spectacular sapphire brooch affixed to the pearl choker again -- or if that is now earmarked for Harry's wife. In my opinion, the engagement ring, the Lover's Knot and that pearl choker with sapphire are the three iconic pieces most associated with Diana, Princess of Wales. Surely William won't get all three ...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: bonbon823 on November 21, 2010, 12:57:13 AM
http://tudorswiki.sho.com/page/More+British+Royal+Tiaras

(http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/TcMPdpFrfYzeDvFhGGzGTA72951/GW241H128)

Queen Victoria's Emerald and Diamond Tiara, owned now by Earl and Countess of Harewood


Absolutely lovely!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Constantinople on November 21, 2010, 01:39:28 AM
Yes enough to make  you green with envy.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Stefan22 on November 21, 2010, 05:32:58 AM
There are at least a dozen tiaras that are not frequently worn -- some have not been seen in decades. And if Alexandra's are intact, the number is even higher. I hope that she receives two -- the Strathmore for the wedding and the Lover's Knot for her first overseas tour. In a fantasy world, the Windsors could get their hands on Q Victoria's sapphire tiara that the Harewoods sold years ago. It would be perfect on Kate, given its size and her young age.  

The harewood'sstillhave the sapphire tiara but have sold a lot of other tiaras inherited from Princess mary. Some time ago there was a pic of the Countess posted on the Royal Jewels MB where she wore the sapphire tiara in the same way around her hairdoo like Queen Victoriia.
As for tiaras there are also a number of tiaras from Queen mary who where not seen since 100 years like the surrey fringe tiara, the ladies of England tiara. but it could have been that they where brojken up to create new Jewels.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 21, 2010, 12:55:55 PM
http://tudorswiki.sho.com/page/More+British+Royal+Tiaras

(http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/TcMPdpFrfYzeDvFhGGzGTA72951/GW241H128)

Queen Victoria's Emerald and Diamond Tiara, owned now by Earl and Countess of Harewood
There has been much discussion about the current owners of this diadem ...and it is not thought to be (or have ever been) the Harewoods. I t is rumoured to be the Duke of Fife as there is a pic of his ex wife wearing the diadem (or a similar) at a state Opening of parliment many years ago.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 21, 2010, 12:59:29 PM
There are at least a dozen tiaras that are not frequently worn -- some have not been seen in decades. And if Alexandra's are intact, the number is even higher. I hope that she receives two -- the Strathmore for the wedding and the Lover's Knot for her first overseas tour. In a fantasy world, the Windsors could get their hands on Q Victoria's sapphire tiara that the Harewoods sold years ago. It would be perfect on Kate, given its size and her young age.  

The harewood'sstillhave the sapphire tiara but have sold a lot of other tiaras inherited from Princess mary. Some time ago there was a pic of the Countess posted on the Royal Jewels MB where she wore the sapphire tiara in the same way around her hairdoo like Queen Victoriia.
 
The Harewood family do still have the tiara and there was a photo of the current Countess.. Patricia... wearing it as you say on display in the main library when I was there this summer.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on November 21, 2010, 01:51:08 PM
http://tudorswiki.sho.com/page/More+British+Royal+Tiaras

(http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/TcMPdpFrfYzeDvFhGGzGTA72951/GW241H128)

Queen Victoria's Emerald and Diamond Tiara, owned now by Earl and Countess of Harewood
Wow, that is a beautiful tiara. Amazing... Love that page, so neat to see the real crown in color and also in b&w.
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Post by: Rani on November 21, 2010, 02:09:40 PM
This Tiara is indeed amazing!

The people from TRF photoshopped some tiaras on Kates head

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/f132/photoshopping-royal-tiaras-and-jewels-2-a-11966-38.html
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 22, 2010, 08:05:08 AM
I think the scroll tiara and the Georgian fringe (both used to belong to the Queen Mother) are the best choices. A diamond necklace from Queen Mary's collection plus some good brooches would be nice too since Catherine (unlike Diana) did not have much ancestral jewels.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: HerrKaiser on November 22, 2010, 05:11:09 PM
has there been any controversies about William using his Mother's engagement ring for his financee? If I was Kate, I'd find that awkward at best.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: kamlowsky on November 22, 2010, 06:17:19 PM
This is interesting:
The present whereabouts of the Queen Victoria Emerald and Diamond Tiara is not known, but it is believed that the celebrated tiara is now in the possession of one of the descendants of Queen Victoria. It appears that the "Queen Victoria's Emerald and Diamond Tiara" like the "Queen Victoria's Diamond and Sapphire Tiara" never entered the British Crown Jewels, and being Queen Victoria's personal property was bequeathed to one of her nine children or their descendants. The present owners of the "Queen Victoria's Diamond and Sapphire Tiara" are the Earl and Countess of Harewood. But, the present owners of the "Queen Victoria's Emerald and Diamond Tiara" are not known.
At the end of this article it is believed that the Emerald and Diamond Tiara has been dismantled.

http://www.internetstones.com/queen-victorias-emerald-and-diamond-tiara-designed-prince-albert.html (http://www.internetstones.com/queen-victorias-emerald-and-diamond-tiara-designed-prince-albert.html)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: bonbon823 on November 22, 2010, 09:08:44 PM
Oh!  How horrible to dismantle such a beautiful thing.  But, if you own it, you can do what you like....still sad.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Vecchiolarry on November 22, 2010, 09:53:02 PM
Hi,

I too think that Kate should have had her own engagement ring and not Diana's.  It seems too soon after her death (13 years) and is too much associated with her.  I can see it given to one of the future grandchildren, as that would be 20 to 25 years from now...
Diana complained about 3 being in her marriage;  and somehow I feel she's the third in this one with that ring.

Also, I hope Catherine doesn't wear any of Diana's jewels for at least a decade - in order to distance herself from Diana's wearing them...

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 23, 2010, 12:35:05 AM
Hi,

I too think that Kate should have had her own engagement ring and not Diana's.  It seems too soon after her death (13 years) and is too much associated with her.  I can see it given to one of the future grandchildren, as that would be 20 to 25 years from now...
Diana complained about 3 being in her marriage;  and somehow I feel she's the third in this one with that ring.

Also, I hope Catherine doesn't wear any of Diana's jewels for at least a decade - in order to distance herself from Diana's wearing them...

Larry

You really need that trip Larry....LOL!

13 years is long enough and that thing has to be worn,that's it.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Carisbrooke on November 23, 2010, 07:02:47 AM
The date is set for April 29th at Westminster Abbey. So the BBC website tells us. Can't seem to find the right link, it's not difficult to find.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Carisbrooke on November 23, 2010, 07:17:28 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11818049 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11818049)

Here it is.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 23, 2010, 07:23:38 AM
The date is set for April 29th at Westminster Abbey. So the BBC website tells us. Can't seem to find the right link, it's not difficult to find.

It is true nonetheless.. ;D

April 29th,St.Catherine's Day,a good omen... ;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 23, 2010, 07:49:13 AM
Glad a date was set. I think the ring is ok. Diana was a loving memory to William and people should respect that.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 23, 2010, 08:12:43 AM
The date is set for April 29th at Westminster Abbey. So the BBC website tells us. Can't seem to find the right link, it's not difficult to find.

It is true nonetheless.. ;D

April 29th,St.Catherine's Day,a good omen... ;D

http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: bonbon823 on November 23, 2010, 08:26:17 AM
I think it's quite appropriate that William would give his fiancee his mother's ring, appropriate and touching.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 23, 2010, 08:49:00 AM
Kate really was touched that William gave her his mother's ring. Princess Diana was such a force for good that Kate said it felt daunting following her even though she will be doing her own thing.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: carl fraley on November 23, 2010, 10:10:01 PM
people need to already just get over the Diana comparisons...  HRH Prince william giving Kate his mothers ring is not that uncommon a practise.  HRH Prince Phillip gave HM THe Queen a Ring made from his own mothers Tiara I believe, and it's common practice to re-use family heirlooms.  I would love to see the majority of Queen Mary's Gems come out of the Vault. :o
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: carl fraley on November 23, 2010, 10:19:01 PM
I sooo hope this is true... i'm dying for the resurection of the Cambridge title.  It has to have some reverence for HM the Queen (b/c of Hm Queen Mary)...


There is already speculation that William would be make Duke of Cambridge on his wedding day (like his Uncle Andrew was made Duke of York on his wedding day). So Catherine would walk into church as Miss Catherine Middlteton and walk out HRH Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge.

I like the fringe too, but so it seems the queen too. The fact she gave Diana the lovers-knot is thatshe hadn't been wearing that for ages. So prepare for old dusty tiaras like the Teck Crescent or Cartier Scholl to see the light again.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on November 23, 2010, 11:56:32 PM
Kate really was touched that William gave her his mother's ring.

Eric, I think William would have discussed the ring issue with Kate beforehand and not just decided to present her with his late mother's ring as a surprise.  I don't think any caring fiance would do that in the circumstances.  :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 24, 2010, 07:57:52 AM
I think waity Katie would have taken a elastic band as long as she got a ring on her finger...she has after all been waiting long enough!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 24, 2010, 09:12:12 AM
Waity Kaitie...(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Rires/lol1.gif)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 24, 2010, 09:13:40 AM
people need to already just get over the Diana comparisons...  HRH Prince william giving Kate his mothers ring is not that uncommon a practise.  HRH Prince Phillip gave HM THe Queen a Ring made from his own mothers Tiara I believe, and it's common practice to re-use family heirlooms.  I would love to see the majority of Queen Mary's Gems come out of the Vault. :o

I think most of the people realized that. But it´s the media who needs a seller, and makes this comparsions.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 24, 2010, 05:45:21 PM
Me too...Love to see more of Mary's gems comes out.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on November 24, 2010, 06:54:38 PM
I think waity Katie would have taken a elastic band as long as she got a ring on her finger...she has after all been waiting long enough!

Well, she's not Waity Katie now, is she?  Don't you like her, Ashdean?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 24, 2010, 07:05:18 PM
I think most of us is dying to meet the "real" Kate. She had eluded us for 8 years.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: carl fraley on November 24, 2010, 09:25:24 PM
I would also love to see HM Queen Alexandra's diamond Wedding Parue from HM King Edward make a reappeance.  I haven't seen it since her death.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 25, 2010, 09:45:01 AM
I would also love to see HM Queen Alexandra's diamond Wedding Parue from HM King Edward make a reappeance.  I haven't seen it since her death.

Oh dear,talking about aging...oh dear....You haven't seen it since her death....impressive.... ::) ;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 25, 2010, 10:31:46 AM
I would also love to see HM Queen Alexandra's diamond Wedding Parue from HM King Edward make a reappeance.  I haven't seen it since her death.

Oh dear,talking about aging...oh dear....You haven't seen it since her death....impressive.... ::) ;D
LOL cruel !!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 25, 2010, 10:36:56 AM
I think waity Katie would have taken a elastic band as long as she got a ring on her finger...she has after all been waiting long enough!

Well, she's not Waity Katie now, is she?  Don't you like her, Ashdean?
Not exactly her fan Grace....she may be the strong character he needs...but Im not really sold on anyone who has a college degree and yet wastes it hanging on for a man.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 25, 2010, 10:48:41 AM
I think waity Katie would have taken a elastic band as long as she got a ring on her finger...she has after all been waiting long enough!

Well, she's not Waity Katie now, is she?  Don't you like her, Ashdean?
Not exactly her fan Grace....she may be the strong character he needs...but Im not really sold on anyone who has a college degree and yet wastes it hanging on for a man.

I think we differ in the way we look at the matter,I never considered William a waste not worth hanging for,if it wasn't on a rope that is.......
The College degree is OK,at least she has grey cells to lay claim to too,for the benefit of the House of Windsor and the Realm. :D.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 25, 2010, 12:10:32 PM
I think waity Katie would have taken a elastic band as long as she got a ring on her finger...she has after all been waiting long enough!

Well, she's not Waity Katie now, is she?  Don't you like her, Ashdean?
Not exactly her fan Grace....she may be the strong character he needs...but Im not really sold on anyone who has a college degree and yet wastes it hanging on for a man.
I did not call William a waste!..I said she had taken a degree and then wasted it fot 4..5 yyears hanging on for a Prince....she seems only to have got galvanised into action  once in all that time...when William dumped her...she soon got her act together then!

I think we differ in the way we look at the matter,I never considered William a waste not worth hanging for,if it wasn't on a rope that is.......
The College degree is OK,at least she has grey cells to lay claim to too,for the benefit of the House of Windsor and the Realm. :D.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: carl fraley on November 25, 2010, 10:55:52 PM
ok i guess i should rephrase that, i haven't seen any pictures, nor read anything where it has been used, worn, or passed on to any of her descendants.  That better?





I would also love to see HM Queen Alexandra's diamond Wedding Parue from HM King Edward make a reappeance.  I haven't seen it since her death.

Oh dear,talking about aging...oh dear....You haven't seen it since her death....impressive.... ::) ;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on November 26, 2010, 01:34:03 PM
I hope it´s not true that William wants Earl Spencer to speak on his wedding. I have the feeling it´s just Williams wedding and he forgets Catherine.
And everybody would say how cold she is, when she stops William with his "Remember Diana" show. It´s on the other side nice and shows how he loves his mother and he didn´t forget her.
But it´s weird.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 26, 2010, 02:27:41 PM
I hope it´s not true that William wants Earl Spencer to speak on his wedding. I have the feeling it´s just Williams wedding and he forgets Catherine.
And everybody would say how cold she is, when she stops William with his "Remember Diana" show. It´s on the other side nice and shows how he loves his mother and he didn´t forget her.
But it´s weird.
The hypocrite Lord Spencer is the very last person who should speak at the wedding....lets hope its all press scandal mongering!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eddie_uk on November 26, 2010, 02:42:00 PM
Agreed! I hope it's just a rumour. Awful man!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Constantinople on November 27, 2010, 04:14:34 AM
There was a nice hagiographic documentary on Cate last night on BBC.  It showed her good side but neglected the bad or even middle ground.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 27, 2010, 08:25:09 AM
Does Kate had a "bad" side already ?  :o
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Constantinople on November 27, 2010, 12:59:26 PM
Well when she says that I am not lucky to be marrying William , he is lucky to have me, and you come from a middle class background and you basically spent your life strategically placing yourself in proximity to him, then that sounds a bit delusional.  Most humans have good and bad sides and I am sure she is no different.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on November 27, 2010, 02:28:57 PM
Well when she says that I am not lucky to be marrying William , he is lucky to have me, and you come from a middle class background and you basically spent your life strategically placing yourself in proximity to him, then that sounds a bit delusional.  Most humans have good and bad sides and I am sure she is no different.
LOL Glad you have the measure of the young lady!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kimberly on November 27, 2010, 04:00:46 PM
Oh come on...don't you think her tongue is firmly in her cheek here?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Constantinople on November 27, 2010, 10:30:43 PM
Unfortunately, it was a statement made by her on BBC and she was serious.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on November 28, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Oh come on...don't you think her tongue is firmly in her cheek here?

Oh yes it was.I saw the interview.Those who look for more then there is,well,aren't well.


And in a reaction to a useless dumb discussion,Prince William has stated he wishes his father on the Throne before he does.
In a statement the portavoz also mentioned Prince William is aware of this "discussion".
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 28, 2010, 10:57:43 AM
Apart from the royal bit, Kate was right. He is lucky to have Kate who comes from a solid and united family (eg. normal). She looked very grounded and sure of herself and that is necessary if one is to survive the pitfalls of being royal. One needs to go back to Diana to see how "the men in dark suits" ran the show behind the scenes. Hopefully she could forge her own signiture in this "firm".
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Teddy on November 30, 2010, 05:05:29 AM
I sooo hope this is true... i'm dying for the resurection of the Cambridge title. 

If he doesn't get the title of Duke of Cambridge, I personally will accept this title :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 30, 2010, 09:35:59 AM
I know it is attractive isn't it...HRH Duke of Cambridge...even if he did not go to that school... ;D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: carl fraley on November 30, 2010, 04:45:50 PM
i simply like it's historical ties to HM QUeen Mary and the Guelph Dyansty. 
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on November 30, 2010, 10:54:50 PM
Perhaps Prince Edward set a new royal tradition by taking a lesser title of Earl and upon his father’s death he is hoping to be “upgraded” to the Duke of Edinburgh title.

Since Charles has so many subsidiary titles, perhaps William will be offered one of those before ascending to the Prince of Wales title and all that comes with it. Charles does have two earldoms that he could possibly bestow on William, such as:

Earl of Chester
Earl of Carrick

But, not knowing if these titles are bound to the Prince of Wales title perhaps these cannot be shared his sons, I just don’t know.

There is another part of me that is thinking that William may refuse any title, but that just doesn’t jive with what has happened in the past after royal princes get married. So, who knows!!!

I think it would be fun for him to get something new like the Duke of St. Andrews. It would be fitting, no?! According to my searching, that title does not exist. It would be a new creation.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Vecchiolarry on November 30, 2010, 11:33:47 PM
Hi,

I still think that William should be given his own dukedom - The Duke of Cambridge is my suggestion....

I don't think that he should be awarded one of Prince Charles' subsiduary titles, as William is an heir to the throne and shouldn't be an Earl only, but a Duke...
As a duke, he then could give any son of his an earldom, one of William's subsiduary titles.
I'm not sure if any children of William and Catherine are automatically princes & princesses, while The Queen is still sovereign.....
Am I correct in thinking that great grandchildren of the monarch are not titled prince and princess??

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Constantinople on December 01, 2010, 12:11:36 AM
Perhaps he should be foresighted and create the Duke of Ottawa or the Duke of Canberra.  This may just tip the balance in favour of the monarchists.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on December 01, 2010, 06:30:25 AM
Hi,

I still think that William should be given his own dukedom - The Duke of Cambridge is my suggestion....

I don't think that he should be awarded one of Prince Charles' subsiduary titles, as William is an heir to the throne and shouldn't be an Earl only, but a Duke...
As a duke, he then could give any son of his an earldom, one of William's subsiduary titles.
I'm not sure if any children of William and Catherine are automatically princes & princesses, while The Queen is still sovereign.....
Am I correct in thinking that great grandchildren of the monarch are not titled prince and princess??

Larry
You are right Larry but I am sure in due course during Kate's first  pregnancy a suitable decree will be issued just as her father did when the current Queen was pregnant with Charles.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on December 01, 2010, 07:06:16 AM
Under the 1917 Royal Warrant only Prince William's eldest son will be a Prince in the Queen's lifetime. However, once Charles becomes king, all his grandchildren will be princes/princesses (those born with lesser titles will take a step up, though this situation has never actually arisen yet).

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Vecchiolarry on December 01, 2010, 07:23:09 AM
Hi,

Thank you Ashdean and Ann for clearing up that title question for me....

Yes Constantinople, it would be a 'hoot' to have William as "the Duke of Ottawa", but unfortunately Canada does not allow titles here...
I'm not sure about Australia, but I doubt they have titles there also...  Bummer!!!

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on December 01, 2010, 08:25:57 AM
You're of course right about Canadian titles Larry, but in fact nothing could legally stop the Queen from creating William Duke of Ottawa - for three reasons. 

First, the Nickle Resolution (asking the Sovereign to not bestow honors on British subjects normally domiciled or resident in Canada) was in fact passed by the Canadian Commons, but was never even sent to the Senate nor to the King.  Therefore, while it established a policy precedent which has had a varying degree of enforcement, it is not law. 

Second, whether it was a precedent or a law, it can only apply to Canadian citizens.  While the Queen may be considered in some ways to be a citizen (as it were) in each of the realms where she is Sovereign, the rest of the Royal Family are not - any title William received would a  British peerage bestowed on a British subject.

And third, British peerages have in the past often been granted with a territorial designation outside the British Isles (such as Earl Mountbatten of Burma in 1947).  Granted, this is rare and I don't think it has been done since this example in 1947.

I don't disagree that creating William a Peer of a territory in Canada, Australia, etc. would cause a lot of controversy and therefore is not going to happen.  But again, legally it could.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Vecchiolarry on December 02, 2010, 06:11:35 PM
Hi Chris,

Thanks for the information on Canadian title(s)....  Intersting!!

Now, if The Queen did create William Duke of Ottawa, I could see W. & Catherine becoming Governor-General and First lady of Canada eventually.
That would give them "a job" to do and could be a "Monarch in Training course"....

Just thinking out loud!!!

Larry

P.S. - Years ago, there was a major campaign to have Prince Andrew as Governor-General here...  And before that, Many clamoured for The Queen Mother to fill that job too - in the 60's, I thnk!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on December 03, 2010, 03:25:47 AM
The Earl of Athlone was Governor-General of Canada during WW2 and did a great job. The Duke of Connaught was Governor-General in WW1 and was also very highly regarded. In the 1920s Prince Arthur of Connaught and the Earl of Athlone were successively Governor-General of South Africa - a distinctly ticklish job!

So plenty of precedents.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on December 03, 2010, 07:50:15 AM
It seems unlikely for a member of the British royal family be appointed Governor General again.  I know the idea is raised now and then, but there are just too many legal, diplomatic and precedent impediments.  At the moment, the Governor General is chosen by the Prime Minister (although there have been various calls over the years for the appointee to be chosen through other means).

Starting in 1867, all GGs were born outside Canada and were members of the Peerage. Requests for Canadian-born appointees began as early as 1919, when Canadian Prime Minister Robert Borden and South Africa Prime Minister Louis Botha decided that viceroys should be long-term residents of their respective dominions.  Even so, it was not until Vincent Massey's appointment in 1952 that the post was filled by a Canadian-born person.  This practice continued until 1999 when Elizabeth II appointed Hong Kong-born Adrienne Clarkson. 

A new approach started in 2010; PM Stephen Harper convened a special search group — the Governor General Consultation Committee.  Described as a tight circle of monarchists, the group was instructed to find a non-partisan candidate who would respect the monarchical aspects of the office.  Ultimately, this process chose David Lloyd Johnston, the new GG.

It has been reported that Sarah, Duchess of York once said that during her marriage, the idea was raised about the Duke being appointed GG of Canada.  But obviously, nothing came of it.  The press loves to speculate that William or Harry might be someday appointed GG of Canada, Australia, etc., but I think after a half a century of current practice, dispatching a British royal to the job would serve only as fuel for republican supporters and could ultimately damage the future of the Crown in these realms.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Vecchiolarry on December 03, 2010, 09:27:54 AM
Hi,

I agree that appointing William as Canada's Governor-General is a pipe dream at best.  I only raised it as a 'tongue in cheek' suggestion...
Cheeky, really!!
Although I wouldn't be averse to it.....

I'm quite happy Johnston was/is chosen now...

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on December 03, 2010, 10:41:55 AM
Personally I think it unfortunate that political / diplomatic / nationalist sentiments make it impossible for William to serve as viceroy of one of the realms. 

From a purely practical standpoint, it makes all the sense in the world.  The role is chiefly ceremonial and representative, although it does include certain constitutional powers and duties.  Since this is exactly the Queen's situation, I would think it would be a perfect training ground for a future monarch. 

That said, as an American I don't really have a right to an opinion on the matter.  I can completely understand if the people (and/or Governments) of Canada, Australia, etc. took the view "Um, the position of our de facto head of state should not be used as a training ground for anyone."
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 03, 2010, 11:51:38 AM
I think it is fortunate that Prince Andrew was not appointed Governor of Australia, can you think of Fergie as first lady ? I shudder at that thought.  :o

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Victor on December 04, 2010, 01:51:12 AM
I think it is fortunate that Prince Andrew was not appointed Governor of Australia, can you think of Fergie as first lady ? I shudder at that thought.  :o


There is no First Lady of Australia as there is in the US,if there was it would be the Queen.Each State of Australia has a Govenor.There is a Govenor General based in Canberra.The wives of these gentlemen generally do not have a promenant role.Of course Govenors and Govenors General may be women.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 04, 2010, 10:29:41 AM
The governer's wife would still automatically became the hignest ranking lady of the land.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Victor on December 04, 2010, 12:55:34 PM
I think it is fortunate that Prince Andrew was not appointed Governor of Australia, can you think of Fergie as first lady ? I shudder at that thought.  :o


There is no First Lady of Australia as there is in the US,if there was it would be the Queen.Each State of Australia has a Govenor.There is a Govenor General based in Canberra.The wives of these gentlemen generally do not have a promenant role.Of course Govenors and Govenors General may be women.
Also-for many years it has been concidered inappropriate for Govenors to be anything other than Australian born.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 04, 2010, 03:25:16 PM
I think that should be so. Also the royals today lack the decorum that the previous generation used to have. People like Princess Alexandra of Kent or Duchess of Gloucester who never put a foot wrong...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Constantinople on December 04, 2010, 10:59:15 PM
Their position is Governor General
As for the royals today, their combination of marrying commoners and public exposure has radically diluted their mystique.  At the end of the day you have to ask yourself if you want to support someone with middle class taste at the astronomical costs that royalty demands.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 05, 2010, 12:47:05 PM
I couldn't agree with you more. The commoner factor was an important factor (Fergie, Sophie Wessex & of course Camilla). Too much light and the magic disappears.  :(
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on December 05, 2010, 07:23:22 PM
I think that should be so. Also the royals today lack the decorum that the previous generation used to have. People like Princess Alexandra of Kent or Duchess of Gloucester who never put a foot wrong...

It's easy to be thought of as never putting a foot wrong when you have a low public profile like Alexandra (after her marriage anyway) and Birgitte and little interest in your life and work from the scandal press.  When you are high profile as Diana and Sarah were and as Kate now is becoming, you have the world's media watching your every move and just waiting to pounce if and when you make a mistake.  Quite a different matter in my opinion.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Robert_Hall on December 05, 2010, 09:08:07 PM
So true, Grace.  How many times have we been told NOT to compare the behavior of the older generations than  the new ones ?  Days of guarded protection from media are long over. Now, everyone, not just royals, are under a media microscope. Instant communication can blow the most trivial of incidents into a major faux pas.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on December 06, 2010, 03:24:31 AM
But let's be fair to Princess Alexandra and the Duchess of Gloucester. One reason they have a low public profile is that they never have put a foot wrong. Both do a steady schedule of royal duties, and if either messed up we'd soon hear about it.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Constantinople on December 06, 2010, 04:30:14 AM
Just curious but shouldn't that be one reason why they never put a foot wrong is that they have a low public profile?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 06, 2010, 09:20:21 AM
Well...Someone like Fergie would "often" put a foot wrong...even Princess Michael of Kent toned down and became very dignified. I think both Diana & Fergie courted publicity and thus their downfall, while Princess Alexandra (who had daughter problems remember ?) & Princess Royal were more identified with being hardworking and gain much more respect that way.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: carl fraley on December 06, 2010, 05:07:55 PM
Just curious but shouldn't that be one reason why they never put a foot wrong is that they have a low public profile?

HRH Princess Alexandra carries out a rather large calender of Duties unless i'm mistaken
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on December 07, 2010, 03:28:25 AM
'HRH Princess Alexandra carries out a rather large calender of Duties unless i'm mistaken'

She does, or at any rate she did - both she and the Duke of Kent (also very hard-working and never put a foot wrong) are in their seventies now.

I think we have a virtuous circle here. Because they have never put a foot wrong and are considered a bit dull (though Princess Alexandra was rather glamorous in her younger days) the media don't take mucyh interest in them and any minor hiccup is not plastered over the newspapers. The Duke of Gloucester was banned from driving a few years ago for speeding but that now seems to have been forgotten (maybe he's a bit of a wolf in sheep's clothing?).

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 07, 2010, 10:47:26 AM
Royalty needs glamour but not scandal, but it is a fine line to distinct between the two. Queen Alexandra, Princess Marina, Duchess of Kent had it in spades. I think William & Catherine should be alright.  ;)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on December 07, 2010, 05:50:15 PM
Just curious but shouldn't that be one reason why they never put a foot wrong is that they have a low public profile?

HRH Princess Alexandra carries out a rather large calender of Duties unless i'm mistaken


A large calendar of duties and a low public profile can often go hand in hand.  I think we all know that a great deal of work done by members of the royal family goes unnoticed because it isn't considered newsworthy by the media.   
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 08, 2010, 12:41:27 PM
Yes. The duties also included unglamourous bits too.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: carl fraley on December 09, 2010, 03:02:24 AM
i think you also should think about this from another perspective as well, Both TRH THe Duke of Kent, and Princess Alexandra were BOrn PRince/Princess of the Blood, and had HM Queen Mary around during their early formative years as well as their mother HRH Princess Marina, Duchess of Kent, and don't forget who their Maternal Grandmother was, HI & RH Grand Duchess Elena Vladimirovna of Russia.  There is a difference in my opinion of those born a princess vs. marrying into the "Firm".  now there  will always be an exception.

Princess Alice, Countess of Athlone ended her book to her Grandchildren (i'm going from memory b/c i'm at work) but she stated her self that "royalty is not the lot of the queen bee, that it has been and is an arduous profession not to be taken lightly.  Those that are born to it are trained from birth, that all events are planned months in advance and only death or major illness's can change them.  The ROyal Motto "Ich DIEN" is exactly that "I serve".  HM The Queen, HRH The Princess Alexandra, HRH The Duke of Kent, HRH THe Duke of Edinburgh, and the Duke of Gloucester  all should be commended for carrying out a full schedule that would even tire out most 30 year old's.

The Duchess of Gloucester and HM the Later Queen mother and HRH THe Duchess of Kent are fine example of women who married into the "Firm" and "measured" up to what might be considered of a member of the Family.








'HRH Princess Alexandra carries out a rather large calender of Duties unless i'm mistaken'

She does, or at any rate she did - both she and the Duke of Kent (also very hard-working and never put a foot wrong) are in their seventies now.

I think we have a virtuous circle here. Because they have never put a foot wrong and are considered a bit dull (though Princess Alexandra was rather glamorous in her younger days) the media don't take mucyh interest in them and any minor hiccup is not plastered over the newspapers. The Duke of Gloucester was banned from driving a few years ago for speeding but that now seems to have been forgotten (maybe he's a bit of a wolf in sheep's clothing?).

Ann





Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on December 09, 2010, 03:16:42 AM
Carlfraley

I agree. We should perhaps also remember that the Duchess of Gloucester didn't expect a major royal role when she married. she married a younger son who was peacefully practising as an architect. Then Prince William of Gloucester was killed only six weeks after the wedding and they had to take on a more prominent role. Though the Duke's father was an invalid by then, the Duchess had an excellent role model in Princess Alice Duchess of Gloucester, and no doubt learned a great deal from her.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 09, 2010, 04:31:33 PM
I think the Duchess of Gloucester learned the royal ropes from her mother-in-law Queen Mary and got help from the example of the Queen Mother. One also have to remember that the marriages of the Queen Mother & the Duchess of Kent were love matches. I am a bit worried what would happen when the palace dark suits got their finger on Kate. But Kate got the soilid backing of her family and have much confidence in herself than her late mother-in-law.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on December 09, 2010, 06:37:06 PM
Hate to sound pessimistic, but once she's married into the royal family, her own family won't have much influence on things at all, I shouldn't think.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: carl fraley on December 09, 2010, 11:04:15 PM
Hate to sound pessimistic, but once she's married into the royal family, her own family won't have much influence on things at all, I shouldn't think.

She also has total support from Her Beau, and IMO I think HRH Prince William will not allow the "Suits" or any repeats to happen.  But the Late Princess and Katherine are two different people who ARE AT two different times in their lives (emotionally and literally) and their spouses are Two totally different people.  I for one, think we should stop with the comparisons, and just wish two wonderful young people the best wishes!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 10, 2010, 01:46:37 PM
I don't know how much the suits would effect the lives of this couple. Fergie & Diana were both intimadated by these "suits" from the palace telling what they should do. I think Fergie would have sunk in obliviion long time ago had not Prince Andrew stood by her time & time again. Even Camilla was said to have been haressed by these suits and said to escape to her own house to take off the heat (clever move to keep her own house)...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 11, 2010, 08:14:47 PM
With happiness in my heart and a tear in my eye, the official portraits of HRH Prince William and his bride to be Catherine Middleton:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1337859/Prince-William-Kate-Middleton-wedding-The-touching-embrace-shows-love-William-Kate--refreshing-departure-Royal-protocol.html

God bless them both.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on December 13, 2010, 09:35:49 AM
I love the relaxed one--glad they released a more 'official' one--but the way he's embracing her in the more informal one is beautiful. Glad they will have both photos.

People (in the mag and online) has a vote for the tiara:

http://www.people.com/people/package/gallery/0,,20395222_20447706,00.html

They include the Duchess of Teck's tiara but did that go to Queen Mary? It's sticking in my mind as either Alice Athlone or the 2nd Duchess? Some are obvious 'what the hecks?' like Fergie's tiara--unless they mean purchasing a new one like Fergie--and Sophie Wessex's possibly modifiying old heirlooms.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on December 13, 2010, 10:39:37 AM
Aww, that's cute! I like how that site put other engagement photos of British royals, too.  :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 13, 2010, 04:51:03 PM
Very lovely both of them. Trust Mario Testno to make a statement.  ;)

I am still rooting for the Queen Mother Scroll tiara or the Teck Cresent. The others are too big.  :-\
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 13, 2010, 05:49:31 PM
Well, there seems to be an underlying theme with the choice of engagement ring and potential designer of the wedding dress so I'm betting that she will be wearing my favorite tiara of them all...the Lover's Knot.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 13, 2010, 06:44:04 PM
She would look nice in it but too close to home I think...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on December 13, 2010, 08:39:40 PM
Moreso than the engagement ring? I'm pulling for the Lover's Knot as well. I think it's the prettiest--personal opinion of course. (Actually, I'd love for her to somehow get her hands on the Fife Tiara.  LOL My favorite. Maybe William could buy it for her.  ;) )
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 14, 2010, 04:46:21 PM
The ring was given to William and her brother after Diana died. I don't think the Queen cherished more memories of Diana than necessary. After all it is up to the Queen to decide what jewels she give Catherine Middleton. I won't bet my money on that.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 14, 2010, 07:42:28 PM
With the way William is conducting his life, he is his own person. So much so that, in the recent past, he has made critical remarks that he refuses to be a ribbon cutter and perform mundane royal engagements like opening of a new wing of a factory or something or other. This must have hit home hard for family because that's what the majority of them do, but he let it rip.

I am feeling that this young man is being very loud and clear that he is going to make up for the treatment of his mother from inside the Firm. William's devotion to his mother is quite apparent especially recently, which has sort of taken me aback. If William wants Kate to wear a certain piece of jewelry, I'm sue she will. I just hope that Kate's okay with that, and he doesn't go overboard to the point of making his bride-to-be into a representation of his mother because that's what he is says he is fighting against.

I'm really liking this side of him actually. I'm sure his and Kate's choices are also impressing the heck out of the Spencer Clan especially Diana's sisters. The Earl, well, I'm not too sure about him. He still seems, well, all about himself these days.

Also, if the rumor is true about William refusing any title at marriage (which I always thought he might), but insisting on Kate being made a princess in her own right...now that would be fantastic. That too would line up with what I said earlier...William is going to make up for the treatment of his mother from inside the Firm. Her HRH title was stripped as a result of the divorce. He wants Kate to have what his mother didn't.

I could completely wrong here, but as an analyst, this is my conclusion to the information that has begun to come out since the engagement announcement.

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: carl fraley on December 14, 2010, 10:46:07 PM
The lovers knot Tiara was originally Queen Mary's , while it wouldbe nice to See it in Use again even if we have to wait until kate is POW or even Queen, it is well documented that there are Jewels A PLENTY in the Vault that haven't seen the light of day since HM QUeen Mary last Catalogued them before her death.  I would LOVe to see Queen Victoria's Sapphire Tiara perhaps Bought back in the Royal Collection.  That and I wish Queen Alexandra's Diamond (wedding ) parue would come out of Hiding



With the way William is conducting his life, he is his own person. So much so that, in the recent past, he has made critical remarks that he refuses to be a ribbon cutter and perform mundane royal engagements like opening of a new wing of a factory or something or other. This must have hit home hard for family because that's what the majority of them do, but he let it rip.

I am feeling that this young man is being very loud and clear that he is going to make up for the treatment of his mother from inside the Firm. William's devotion to his mother is quite apparent especially recently, which has sort of taken me aback. If William wants Kate to wear a certain piece of jewelry, I'm sue she will. I just hope that Kate's okay with that, and he doesn't go overboard to the point of making his bride-to-be into a representation of his mother because that's what he is says he is fighting against.

I'm really liking this side of him actually. I'm sure his and Kate's choices are also impressing the heck out of the Spencer Clan especially Diana's sisters. The Earl, well, I'm not too sure about him. He still seems, well, all about himself these days.





Also, if the rumor is true about William refusing any title at marriage (which I always thought he might), but insisting on Kate being made a princess in her own right...now that would be fantastic. That too would line up with what I said earlier...William is going to make up for the treatment of his mother from inside the Firm. Her HRH title was stripped as a result of the divorce. He wants Kate to have what his mother didn't.

I could completely wrong here, but as an analyst, this is my conclusion to the information that has begun to come out since the engagement announcement.


Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on December 15, 2010, 08:54:04 AM
The lovers knot Tiara was originally Queen Mary's , while it wouldbe nice to See it in Use again even if we have to wait until kate is POW or even Queen, it is well documented that there are Jewels A PLENTY in the Vault that haven't seen the light of day since HM QUeen Mary last Catalogued them before her death.  I would LOVe to see Queen Victoria's Sapphire Tiara perhaps Bought back in the Royal Collection.  That and I wish Queen Alexandra's Diamond (wedding ) parue would come out of Hiding



With the way William is conducting his life, he is his own person. So much so that, in the recent past, he has made critical remarks that he refuses to be a ribbon cutter and perform mundane royal engagements like opening of a new wing of a factory or something or other. This must have hit home hard for family because that's what the majority of them do, but he let it rip.

I am feeling that this young man is being very loud and clear that he is going to make up for the treatment of his mother from inside the Firm. William's devotion to his mother is quite apparent especially recently, which has sort of taken me aback. If William wants Kate to wear a certain piece of jewelry, I'm sue she will. I just hope that Kate's okay with that, and he doesn't go overboard to the point of making his bride-to-be into a representation of his mother because that's what he is says he is fighting against.

I'm really liking this side of him actually. I'm sure his and Kate's choices are also impressing the heck out of the Spencer Clan especially Diana's sisters. The Earl, well, I'm not too sure about him. He still seems, well, all about himself these days.





Also, if the rumor is true about William refusing any title at marriage (which I always thought he might), but insisting on Kate being made a princess in her own right...now that would be fantastic. That too would line up with what I said earlier...William is going to make up for the treatment of his mother from inside the Firm. Her HRH title was stripped as a result of the divorce. He wants Kate to have what his mother didn't.

I could completely wrong here, but as an analyst, this is my conclusion to the information that has begun to come out since the engagement announcement.



That would be wonderful. I hate we don't see some of those tiaras very often--like the sapphire one--because they passed out of the main branch of the family. There are some real gems (no pun intended) out there that would be nice to see back. Some of the modern ones (like Sarah's or Sophie's) are rather eh.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on December 15, 2010, 08:56:01 AM
The ring was given to William and her brother after Diana died. I don't think the Queen cherished more memories of Diana than necessary. After all it is up to the Queen to decide what jewels she give Catherine Middleton. I won't bet my money on that.

Yes, I know, but the statement was in regards to the association with Diana not what belonged to who. If the Queen doesn't 'cherish' memories of Diana why should she care if Kate has a tiara associated with her when Kate is already wearing her very famous engagement ring? On a side note, I think it was great of Harry to allow William to take the ring for Kate. He could've easily saved it for his own wife but wanted to give it to his 'sister' as he called her in a statement.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 15, 2010, 01:08:02 PM
I think Harry was being a good brother in this. They are closer than most siblings since they went through much togather...I would like to see Catherine have her own jewels (from the Queen) than Diana's old duds. The ring is quite enough.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on December 15, 2010, 02:33:15 PM
I think Harry was being a good brother in this. They are closer than most siblings since they went through much togather...I would like to see Catherine have her own jewels (from the Queen) than Diana's old duds. The ring is quite enough.
I agree.....some of the instore heirlooms...perhaps  remodeled...but mainly gems not associated with Diana...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on December 15, 2010, 02:54:40 PM
That's up to William to decide, isn't it?  There's a few of you here who would love to airbrush Diana out of everything but William, starting out by giving Kate his beloved mother's engagement ring, has already made it quite clear that's not going to happen...with her jewellery or anything else.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on December 15, 2010, 02:59:00 PM
That's up to William to decide, isn't it?  There's a few of you here who would love to airbrush Diana out of everything but William, starting out by giving Kate his beloved mother's engagement ring, has already made it quite clear that's not going to happen...with her jewellery or anything else.
Its up to them BOTH to decide....as for airbrushing Diana out...that will not happen but at the same time we do not need to have her rammed down our throats morning noon and night!!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 15, 2010, 03:04:23 PM
Not really. I loved Diana and wept at her furneral. There is no attempt to airbrush her out. Diana will be there in the diamond & sapphire engagement ring as William said she would be . But most do not want a complete repeat of Diana. There are quite a few traces here : Westminster Abbey instead of St Pauls, An April wedding instead of the July one. Since the Queen holds the key to the vault of the jewels, I think she will give Catherine a chance to establish her own identity. A tiara from the time of the Queen Mum as Duchess of York or another from Queen Mary as a young woman would suit Catherine more. If you see the current trend in tiaras for young royals, they tend to be small and managable.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 15, 2010, 03:11:13 PM

...On a side note, I think it was great of Harry to allow William to take the ring for Kate. He could've easily saved it for his own wife but wanted to give it to his 'sister' as he called her in a statement.

I know...so sweet...his 'sister.' Love these two young men, and I am all settled in to watch Kate blossom into the mega royal she will become. Fun times ahead for this royal watcher.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on December 16, 2010, 05:01:04 PM
Not really. I loved Diana and wept at her furneral. There is no attempt to airbrush her out. Diana will be there in the diamond & sapphire engagement ring as William said she would be . But most do not want a complete repeat of Diana. There are quite a few traces here : Westminster Abbey instead of St Pauls, An April wedding instead of the July one. Since the Queen holds the key to the vault of the jewels, I think she will give Catherine a chance to establish her own identity. A tiara from the time of the Queen Mum as Duchess of York or another from Queen Mary as a young woman would suit Catherine more. If you see the current trend in tiaras for young royals, they tend to be small and managable.

Like QV's sapphire & diamond one if they could only get it back!  :)  That would also compliment the engagement ring. Perhaps William will go the Prince Albert route and design some jewelry for his wife? I just hope any new jewelry (brand new or reset) ends up better than Sophie Wessex's wedding tiara.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Marc on December 17, 2010, 12:30:16 PM
It seems Prince Eduard von Anhalt was right when he said about the engagement earlier this summer:

http://www.britishroyals.info/?m=201008

Scroll down a bit and you will see!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 17, 2010, 04:54:25 PM
Yes. But Catherine will be the future queen while Sophie will only be a Duchess. Catherine will be given more important jewels.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: ashdean on December 18, 2010, 03:29:55 PM
Yes. But Catherine will be the future queen while Sophie will only be a Duchess. Catherine will be given more important jewels.
Actually Catherine will one day have the greater part of the immense royal collection for her personal use!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: heavensent on December 18, 2010, 03:53:26 PM
whos going to officiate at the ceremony ?

dont tell me its Archbish Bushy Brows  !!!!  oh no !!!

(http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/9922/archbishopofcanterburyd.jpg) (http://img814.imageshack.us/my.php?image=archbishopofcanterburyd.jpg)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on December 18, 2010, 05:25:51 PM
I have a lot more concern about the way this awful man represents the Church of England than I do about his eyebrows, but he will probably be expected to marry the couple or do they have some personal choice in the matter?  I'm sure someone will know of the protocols here because I certainly don't! 
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: heavensent on December 18, 2010, 05:59:31 PM
Lets get a campaign going to get  some scissors to those bushy brows
he cant appear to a world wide audience of  500 million looking like that !
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: heavensent on December 18, 2010, 06:08:04 PM
Got to say about Kate... she looks like an earth mother to me..
 (I can see 3 children in next to no time)
She also looks extremely healthy and ready for the challenge.

  They are the same age too, which must be an advantage, Diana and Charles were
 a generation apart.
   But got to admit, Diana restored a bit of height to the Royal lineage,
what is  William...  ?  6ft 3 "  ......... according to Google  
every inch the dashing Prince.
 At meetings and line ups, we ll be looking up at the Prince, which was nt
always the case with poor Charles.....5ft. 8"
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on December 19, 2010, 04:11:19 AM
I have a lot more concern about the way this awful man represents the Church of England than I do about his eyebrows, but he will probably be expected to marry the couple or do they have some personal choice in the matter?  I'm sure someone will know of the protocols here because I certainly don't!  

I think they do have a choice in the matter yes Grace,moreover as William is not an Heir getting married but a second in line.
He might opt for the chaplain of the RAF if he so wishes,instead of this creature of Canterbury who,apart from the eyebrow
bit,looks very very,well,not clean....I can almost smell him through my screen....

Meanwhile,William and Catherine attended the Christmas reception in
aid of the Teenager Cancer Trust:

http://members3.boardhost.com/Oranjes/msg/1292751608.html

Courtesy dear Marianne,GREMB. :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 19, 2010, 12:43:53 PM
I read in the papers about Whitaker talking about Kate being a "commoner" and the whole thing about class popped up again...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: carl fraley on December 20, 2010, 06:31:17 PM
keep in mind the "Royal Collection" and HM the Queens Personal Collection  are TWO Entirely differnent things as her Majesty Queen Elizabeth found out when King George Died and The Queen Mother didn't have that many jewles at her disposal and had to "Officially" return the Crown (Royal Collection) Jewels back to the Crown.  The Bulk of HM collection is Private and was passed to HM from Queen Mary, so HRH The Countess of Wessex may be just a Duchess in the Future, but and i highly doubt HM will break up what Queen Mary built up with such diligence , but remember it is entirely within her Majesty's personal disposition and descretion.  Queen Mary was Very Generous with her Daughter in laws, extremely so and HM may choose to do so with Kate.

Touching on something mentioned earlier also about HRH Prince William re-using his mothers ring, HM Queen Mary gave her entire Wedding Presents (Jewelry) to Hm The Queen as her own Wedding Gift, which she wore to her own wedding and it has been documented multiple times that she, HM still refers to that paticular Tiara as "Granny's Tiara".  IMO there is nothing wrong with Tradition








Yes. But Catherine will be the future queen while Sophie will only be a Duchess. Catherine will be given more important jewels.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on December 21, 2010, 02:21:38 AM
The Prince and his fiancée attended a charity:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2010/12/kate.html

courtesy hja
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 21, 2010, 08:13:04 AM
WE shall see what Catherine got from the Queen soon enough.  ;)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: heavensent on December 21, 2010, 11:01:01 AM
Those   two weeks of July.....  1st to 14th  are really the crown and apogee of the year
 I wish they would have chosen say  July 8th ....
But... its going to be  blustery April.... so be it.
 It heartbraking that Diana wont be there on the day... inside the Abbey to witness her sons
marriage,   she would have been so proud .
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 21, 2010, 11:12:27 AM
A new book on Kate & Wills just came out today in the US called "William & Kate" by Christopher Andersen. It states that after William is married to Kate (Catherine Middleton), she would abdicate the throne to Charles after her diamond jublilee. What nonsense ! First of all, Prince William would not have any royal duties nor Kate. He would be in Wales working as a accident pilot that help people to get to hospital. Kate would be living with him there and not in some palace...yet. They are hardly ready to take on being POW, if Prince Charles is going to be king. I think people have forgotton that the Queen took a vow to serve her country before her coronation. Even Charles said he did not want to crown since he will only get it when the Queen dies. A very bitter sweet kind of comment. It would not be the time or place for abdication when Australia (according to Wikileak cables) is thinking of having its own head of state after the Queen goes. Not to mention the government plan to ditch the image of the queen off the stamps of Britain.  :o
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on December 21, 2010, 12:10:58 PM
Eric

On this occasion I agree with all you say.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 21, 2010, 12:13:11 PM
Thanks Ann.  ;)

I am tired about this kind of speculation, it puts the RF into such unnecessary pressure. I guess people do not understand lifetime employment. :-)

Eric
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: carl fraley on December 21, 2010, 05:12:37 PM
I totally agree.  PUre RUBBISH. 

as HM the Queen Mother said when asked, "really, this isn't the Netherlands".  Imo HM meant what she said during her 21st bday speech

I declare before you all that my whole life whether it be long or short shall be devoted to your service and the service of our great imperial family to which we all belong.

anything else is pure RUBBISH.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on December 21, 2010, 09:43:04 PM
From ussatoday.com:

"Andersen, a longtime royals watcher who finished his book nearly two months before the engagement, reports that his unnamed palace sources say William's grandmother has agreed to at least consider stepping aside early (perhaps after her Diamond Jubilee in 2012) so that William's father, Prince Charles, could become king at a reasonably young age. Charles just turned 62; she turns 85 next year, and her mother lived to nearly 102. "They don't want Charles to succeed at age 77, which would be the oldest since William IV" in 1830, Andersen says. It would mean William's turn on the throne could come sooner and Middleton would become "the first true commoner queen, the first non-aristocrat, in 350 years," Andersen says. If it happens, it would be big news, especially for the British, long accustomed to believing the queen would never retire or abdicate before her death."

His interview with Matt Lauer (available online) seems to focus less on 'the Queen will abdicate' then what the ramifications of a very elderly Prince Charles inheriting the throne might be for the fate of the monarchy. I think the abdication angle is getting played up for sensationalism.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Vecchiolarry on December 21, 2010, 10:06:51 PM
Hi,

I can understand that The Queen may want to lessen her public duties and relegate Charles & Camilla to more duties after the Jubilee.
But, she would not abdicate or retire entirely.
Her ancestors decreased their public appearances but were quite cognizant until near the end.
Victoria
Edward VII & Alexandra
George V & Mary
George VI & Elizabeth
all were lucid until the end.....

Philip and Elizabeth are still quite viable people..

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on December 22, 2010, 02:30:07 AM
From ussatoday.com:

"Andersen, a longtime royals watcher who finished his book nearly two months before the engagement, reports that his unnamed palace sources say William's grandmother has agreed to at least consider stepping aside early (perhaps after her Diamond Jubilee in 2012) so that William's father, Prince Charles, could become king at a reasonably young age. Charles just turned 62; she turns 85 next year, and her mother lived to nearly 102. "They don't want Charles to succeed at age 77, which would be the oldest since William IV" in 1830, Andersen says. It would mean William's turn on the throne could come sooner and Middleton would become "the first true commoner queen, the first non-aristocrat, in 350 years," Andersen says. If it happens, it would be big news, especially for the British, long accustomed to believing the queen would never retire or abdicate before her death."

His interview with Matt Lauer (available online) seems to focus less on 'the Queen will abdicate' then what the ramifications of a very elderly Prince Charles inheriting the throne might be for the fate of the monarchy. I think the abdication angle is getting played up for sensationalism.

" Unnamed Palace sources"....I am sick of unnamed palace sources anywhere...Just trying to make a cheap fast buck over the back of the couple....

Anyway,anyone for the Royal Wedding China range=

http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/default.asp?action=article&ID=898


http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2010/12/william-wont-be-home-for-christmas.html

courtesy HJA
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 22, 2010, 11:09:45 AM
Andersen is not a seasoned Royal Watcher. His books lumps the Windsors with the Kennedys. They are very different between John Jr. & Prince William. I think the British Authors are more reliable. His reasoning that Kate's family is clean apart from the "cross-dressing brother" meant he is looking for dirt. I will not pay that kind of money for a book that that celibre.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on December 22, 2010, 08:57:38 PM
Surely coins produced by the Royal Mint to commemorate the forthcoming wedding would have to have royal approval?  I think this is awful, there's nothing more I can say about it!  Any other opinions?


http://www.royalmint.com/engagement/engagement_products.aspx?src=homeLg_Engagement (http://www.royalmint.com/engagement/engagement_products.aspx?src=homeLg_Engagement)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Emperor of the Dominions on December 22, 2010, 09:42:30 PM
Surely coins produced by the Royal Mint to commemorate the forthcoming wedding would have to have royal approval?  I think this is awful, there's nothing more I can say about it!  Any other opinions?


http://www.royalmint.com/engagement/engagement_products.aspx?src=homeLg_Engagement (http://www.royalmint.com/engagement/engagement_products.aspx?src=homeLg_Engagement)

Agreed, it's awful - almost cartoonish Surely they can do better.

R.I.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 23, 2010, 11:04:13 AM
In the Washington Post they called it "Butt-Head" (from the cartoon character "Beavers & Butt-Head") and "Janis Joplin".
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on December 23, 2010, 02:25:50 PM
The coin is atrocious and should be scrapped and a new one issued. Who'd they get to carve the design...a child. It's disrespectful in my opinion. I don't know who's on the coin because it certainly doesn't look like Prince William. As for the woman on the coin, who knows who she is. Awful.

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Robert_Hall on December 23, 2010, 03:10:21 PM
I agree that the coin is tacky. However, there will be far worse coming out soon enough. Plates, cups, tea towels, posters, etc.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on December 23, 2010, 08:22:05 PM
How true, Robert, although one would expect something better from the Royal Mint no less, don't you think?!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 23, 2010, 08:30:12 PM
  However, there will be far worse coming out soon enough. Plates, cups, tea towels, posters, etc.

Ahem!!

(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4299/katewilliam1780580c.jpg)

And it wont stop!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Robert_Hall on December 24, 2010, 10:37:00 AM
I now read that some  shops in China & Brazil are offering reproduction engagement rings, as cheap as  $3.00 US.
 On the other hand,  The Royal Collection is offering decent commemoratives at higher prices, if one is interested in this sort of thing.
 And Grace, the Royal Mint has been disappointing in their designs for some time. The upcoming Olympic coins are almost just as  bad.  Perhaps Royal Mail- or what is left of it- will come up with something better...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 24, 2010, 02:55:16 PM
I agree with you Robert. What ever happened to good taste ?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Adagietto on December 26, 2010, 06:21:32 AM
That ghastly coin just seems to be for little Alderney.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 26, 2010, 12:44:35 PM
I will not get it. They look ugly in it anyway.  >:(
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on December 26, 2010, 07:09:15 PM
That ghastly coin just seems to be for little Alderney.

I thought it was created by the Royal Mint?
Title: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on December 27, 2010, 12:26:47 AM
That ghastly coin just seems to be for little Alderney.

I thought it was created by the Royal Mint?

They are GDElla,and the people on it are as they are,no foolish idolising star glory other then reallty bites.
HM IS an aging Lady,And William and Catherine are OK,dispite all the Nay's here.

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=23-12-2010%20The

Courtesy PPE

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 27, 2010, 10:29:21 AM
It looked strange I must say...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Greenowl on December 27, 2010, 02:58:56 PM
Whatever about HM the Queen, I would not have recognised Prince William or Kate had I not known what the coin was intended to commemmorate. I think it looks most unrealistic (or else my eyes are becoming weak from age).

Cheers,
GREENOWL
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Adagietto on December 28, 2010, 05:07:12 PM
'William and Catherine are OK,dispite all the Nay's here.'

I agree with Greenowl, I find them unrecognizable; and I would regard the image as ugly whoever they were, the artist is simply not up to scratch. Hope they never sink to that level on coins for the UK itself.

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 29, 2010, 02:02:22 PM
I would say it was a disapointment.  :(
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: bonbon823 on December 30, 2010, 08:56:49 AM
Are they really going to stick with that coin??  It's so badly done in my opinion that I can't imagine why they would want to continue with it.  Surely it can be redone?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 30, 2010, 10:23:39 AM
Maybe the dominions (Canada or Australia) can do their own coin ?
Title: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 05, 2011, 09:49:36 AM
whos going to officiate at the ceremony ?

dont tell me its Archbish Bushy Brows  !!!!  oh no !!!

(http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/9922/archbishopofcanterburyd.jpg) (http://img814.imageshack.us/my.php?image=archbishopofcanterburyd.jpg)


Unfortunately,yes,it will be the Archbishop of Canterbury as was announced today.... ::)...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 05, 2011, 10:49:14 AM
He looked like someone from Hogwarts...

I read that they are going to have a private family dinner in Buck House rather than a court ball.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Robert_Hall on January 05, 2011, 11:30:22 AM
.   What is so wrong with him?  He is the senior cleric of the Anglican faith.  It is most appropriate that he presides.  Aesthetics are superfluous and meaningless. What shallow opinions.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on January 05, 2011, 02:24:40 PM
Many people feel he doesn't represent the doctrines of the faith appropriately for a man in his position with some of the quite outspoken comments he's made about subjects previous Archbishops have never touched on.  Some may feel this is good but others don't. 

As for his personal appearance, I don't think looks matter as such but I think grooming is important for someone representing the church in such a public role.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Robert_Hall on January 05, 2011, 07:22:11 PM
I understand what you say, Grace. He is rather liberal Although not religious I tend to agree with him. As for his grooming, well, when he puts on all his frill & finery, who will notice? All the attention with be on William & Kate anyway.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: chasmat on January 05, 2011, 10:03:49 PM
The ABC is presiding over the dissolution of the Anglican Communion. He is a divisive and ineffective leader unless the breakup of the Anglican Communion is his goal. In that case he's been very effective.
As far as the eyebrows go, it's comical. However Prince Phillip has the same problem, just curly.
Title: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 06, 2011, 01:06:20 AM
Many people feel he doesn't represent the doctrines of the faith appropriately for a man in his position with some of the quite outspoken comments he's made about subjects previous Archbishops have never touched on.  Some may feel this is good but others don't.  

As for his personal appearance, I don't think looks matter as such but I think grooming is important for someone representing the church in such a public role.

Exactly Grace,these are not the seventies where one did what one liked whenever they liked it in certain quarters,but representing something like the Church of England needs you take care,as all should btw,of your appearance.His stands on matters is a brush away from reality,ie,there won't be a Church of England left
if he goes on as he does uttering idle empty words out of touch with reality.I can hardly call that superficial,superfluous or anything along that line.It is serious enough,as most churches are empty these days and the Anglican congregation has come to a absolute minimum.And besides the job as guardian of the CoE,he looks like a creature from Hogwarth indeed,that will distract from the beautifull bride Catherine no doubt will be,so,I'd call for a public demand to send him off to the barber first......for starters....His wife can sent him off,and maybe make an appointment for herself as well while she's at it...She'll be there too ::)
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 06, 2011, 03:23:12 AM
Many people feel he doesn't represent the doctrines of the faith appropriately for a man in his position with some of the quite outspoken comments he's made about subjects previous Archbishops have never touched on.  Some may feel this is good but others don't.  

As for his personal appearance, I don't think looks matter as such but I think grooming is important for someone representing the church in such a public role.

Exactly Grace,these are not the seventies where one did what one liked whenever they liked it in certain quarters,but representing something like the Church of England needs you take care,as all should btw,of your appearance.His stands on matters is a brush away from reality,ie,there won't be a Church of England left
if he goes on as he does uttering idle empty words out of touch with reality.I can hardly call that superficial,superfluous or anything along that line.It is serious enough,as most churches are empty these days and the Anglican congregation has come to a absolute minimum.And besides the job as guardian of the CoE,he looks like a creature from Hogwarth indeed,that will distract from the beautifull bride Catherine no doubt will be,so,I'd call for a public demand to send him off to the barber first......for starters....His wife can sent him off,and maybe make an appointment for herself as well while she's at it...She'll be there too ::)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12120099

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 06, 2011, 08:40:38 AM
I totally agree with Grace. He does not represent many including me that is in the faith. Those who are not may not understand the dismay when he said something like Islamic laws should be real laws too...A dividing figure to say the least.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: violetta on January 06, 2011, 05:30:13 PM
I read an article on the engagement by a Polish reporter and producer. She has been living in the UK (London) for many years, she has been working for BBC for 17 years. This is a summary of her impresiions and opinions as she witnessed the whole situation after the announcement of the engagement.

1. The most exciting aspect of the forthcoming marriage is the bride. She has been fully accepted by the "Firm". She hasn`t made any major mistake, she is discreet and has impeccable manners. Her appearance is that of a real princess. The British monarchy changed its views on the principles and traditions of royal marriages. Failure of the arranged marriage between Diana and Charles contributed to  the change of the monarchy`s opinion.

2. The young people experienced ups and downs in their relationship. The decision to marry was sober-minded and well-considered so the Queen accepted and respected their decision.

3.Kate`s situation and her future position bring about certain worries. Does she realize what she is getting into? She sentences herself to isolation. Some people ask what made the young, well-educated and well-off woman to enter "one of the most dysfunctional families".


4. For centuries the British royal family mistreated their female members. MAny think how Kate will manage to cope with her public functions and her family role. Will she manage to make her dreams of happy family life come true? How will she cope with pressure and constant assessment made by the Firm? the first tension appeared when kate was to choose a designer for her wedding dress. The Royals objected to the choice of Kate`s favorite Brasilian designer fearing that the dress wil be too extravagant.   The Royal family insisted on the choice of a British designer.

5. Many people point out that Kate is entering the Royal family without any real life experience. She worked for a short time for a family company but she hardly had any time to define who she really is. She hasn`t had a possibility to understand herself.

6.British feminists are irritated,too. They think that in this way they show that marriage is the crowning achievement of every woman and the goal that every woman needs to attain.
 7. kate started therapy that will prepare her to live in the Royal family. They say, that William initiated this therapy trying to spare stresses and depression to  his future wife. He thinks that she should avoid the stresses that his mother had to face. Sophie, Countess of Wessex, decided to help Kate in the process of adjustment to life in the Royal family.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on January 07, 2011, 03:55:42 AM
I'm a bit disappointed that Kate Middleton will not be going to the Abbey by carriage. Wishing to avoid unnecessary expense is commendable but I really don't think it will make much difference to the overall cost.

The other interesting issue is who Prince William will choose for his two supporters. Charles, Andrew and Edward all used each other. George VI, the Duke of Gloucester and Duke of Kent each had three brothers to choose from. William, however, only has one brother. Presumably he will use Harry, but who will be his second supporter. Back in 1893 the future George V used his father and uncle, Alfred, Duke of Edinburgh. How about Charles and Harry?

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on January 07, 2011, 04:16:13 AM
I'm a bit disappointed that Kate Middleton will not be going to the Abbey by carriage. Wishing to avoid unnecessary expense is commendable but I really don't think it will make much difference to the overall cost.
Ann

I am too...really disappointed.  How often do we get to see the magic of a royal bride travelling to her wedding in a royal coach?  Car = BORING!  How can it really save that much money?
Title: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 07, 2011, 04:25:36 AM
I'm a bit disappointed that Kate Middleton will not be going to the Abbey by carriage. Wishing to avoid unnecessary expense is commendable but I really don't think it will make much difference to the overall cost.

The other interesting issue is who Prince William will choose for his two supporters. Charles, Andrew and Edward all used each other. George VI, the Duke of Gloucester and Duke of Kent each had three brothers to choose from. William, however, only has one brother. Presumably he will use Harry, but who will be his second supporter. Back in 1893 the future George V used his father and uncle, Alfred, Duke of Edinburgh. How about Charles and Harry?

Ann

Friends,friends do nicely as best man.They do not have to be Royal,next of kin or any of that.
A car is fine,it gets one from A to B perfectly,really girls,be glad there is to be a wedding and
really,they will go back to the Palace by carriage.A car is better protected too,and you won't get
to see the dress till she gets out of the car,keeps the surprise up.

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on January 07, 2011, 05:30:29 AM
I'm not bothered about the dress, quite frankly. I just like carriages.

And royalty don't have best men.

I hope the happy pair aren't going to do a Tony Blair and insist on relentless modernity.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 07, 2011, 12:39:57 PM
A car does robs it of a bit of history & magic (and tradition).  :(
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Taren on January 07, 2011, 09:32:57 PM
I believe that Kate is allergic to horses, which might help explain why she wouldn't necessarily want to be near them on her wedding day.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 08, 2011, 11:48:20 AM
BAD SIGN !!! The Queen adore horses and so is Charles & Camilla. There is going to be problems... :o
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: bonbon823 on January 09, 2011, 10:45:10 AM
I didn't know a person could be allergic to horses...is she allergic to other animals too, say, corgis??
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on January 09, 2011, 11:58:30 AM
I think people tend to be allergic to the animal's hair, not the animal.

Being unhappy around horses is not a good start to life with the royal family. Diana, notoriously, didn't like horses!

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Vecchiolarry on January 09, 2011, 12:52:35 PM
Hi,

My 2 cents from Macao, China (I'm on my cruise, folks!!):

A car is a very bad decision.  People expect the royals to go to and from their weddings in a coach.  At least Diana got it right with this decision!!

Allergic to horses and corgis - - oh boy is she in the wrong family.  And, what about country life?  She better get used to Balmoral and Sandringham or The Queen will have her nose out of joint!!

BTW, did Diana have pets - any dogs or cats around.
And, do Charles & Camilla have pets?
Just asking.....

Larry
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 09, 2011, 01:57:17 PM
I agree with Ann & Larry. Kate is going to get it !!! Diana had to ride with her mother-in-law in Sandringham even though she hated horses.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on January 09, 2011, 02:39:16 PM
I agree with Ann & Larry. Kate is going to get it !!! Diana had to ride with her mother-in-law in Sandringham even though she hated horses.

What is Kate going to get?  I think the ride Diana took with the Queen was arranged to try to quell her fear of horse-riding after an accident she had as a child but there didn't seem to be any problem afterwards that she didn't take to it and if there was it was within the family only.

I can't see any big deal about Kate riding or not these days, however, she will have to get used to being behind horses in a carriage.  How could allergy be the reason she's not travelling to her wedding ceremony in a closed carriage because it's said she and William will leave the cathedral afterwards in one that is not closed?
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 09, 2011, 03:30:57 PM
I'm a bit disappointed that Kate Middleton will not be going to the Abbey by carriage. Wishing to avoid unnecessary expense is commendable but I really don't think it will make much difference to the overall cost.
Ann

I am too...really disappointed.  How often do we get to see the magic of a royal bride travelling to her wedding in a royal coach?  Car = BORING!  How can it really save that much money?

No,a car is not boring,it is A OK Grace,anywhere so also in the UK.To be "so upset" about that as some pretend to be
instead of a carriage is way over the top,don't be silly,there willl be more left to guess until the exact sec she gets to
the Abbey to meet that bearded hogwarth lad.You have four more months to get used to the idea.Who spreads the
nonsense as if Catherine is so allergic to horses and how bad that is for the Monarchy???Get real people!!Yes,you too Eric...
No need for stirring up what's useless,no shreaking queens needed either who put oil on that non-fire.Get over it. Brits live
on an island and are therefore catched up later then we classy continentals.... ;D...and well what do ye know,all of a sudden the
entire former empire desides it's bad,no carriages,no fairytale this and that.A wedding on itself is a fairytale already,everything
else is just there to please us spoiled rotten royalwatchers with a strange but lovely hobby,as if we set the rules for a Monarchy
or anyone involved.

Nah,...come on....You'll see,it won't be halve as bad,I promiss.I never heard anything on the use of cars with Máxima,Mary,
Haakon,Victoria,they all had cars too and did we miss anything guys and galls??!And all went back to their Palaces by carriage
afterwards,just as is planned now...Nah...,see,it will be a perfect day,don't worry.
Btw,have a great time on your cruise Larry... ;D :-*,and take care of yourself in rainy Oz Grace,I worry more on that :-* :-*

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on January 10, 2011, 03:25:44 AM
'BTW, did Diana have pets - any dogs or cats around.
And, do Charles & Camilla have pets?
Just asking.....'

Diana made Charles get rid of his favourite labrador, Harvey, because she saw him as a rival (one reason I'm not keen on Diana!)

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on January 10, 2011, 02:49:23 PM
Prince Charles used to have a Jack Russell who has since past named Tigger (Tigga) and another named Pooh. I am not sure if Pooh is still with us. As for Camilla, she has three Jack Russell terriers, Tosca, Rosie and Freddie. Freddie is one of Tigga's pups.

I can't believe that Diana made Charles give away one of his pets. That's awful. I do remember reading an anecdote about Charles' beloved Tigga mentioned above and that someone in Diana's household or she herself, put the dog in an oven. I don't know if the oven was on or not, but hearing  that story was very disturbing to me.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on January 10, 2011, 04:02:25 PM

Diana made Charles get rid of his favourite labrador, Harvey, because she saw him as a rival (one reason I'm not keen on Diana!)

Ann


Ann, do you have your facts absolutely straight on this one?  Because it's just the sort of Diana story (and so is the "oven" one) that used to do the rounds years ago spread by the pro-Charles camp that turned out not to be correct (and yes, Diana spread some untrue tales herself).  I'm sure I've read something about Harvey and where he went in one of my books.  I'll try to look it up to see what it says and who said it.  
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on January 11, 2011, 03:35:28 AM
I read the story about Harvey in either The Times or The Daily Telegraph - it was being used as an example of how needy and psychologically mixed-up Diana was.

As to Pooh, she disappeared down a rabbit hole a few years ago and was never seen again (the episode was covered extensively in the newspapers and demonstrated how 'doggy' Charles is).

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 11, 2011, 09:47:11 AM
Lets go back to Kate & William. I think we are off topic here.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Martyn on January 13, 2011, 12:27:40 PM
I agree with Ann & Larry. Kate is going to get it !!! Diana had to ride with her mother-in-law in Sandringham even though she hated horses.

What is Kate going to get?  I think the ride Diana took with the Queen was arranged to try to quell her fear of horse-riding after an accident she had as a child but there didn't seem to be any problem afterwards that she didn't take to it and if there was it was within the family only.

I can't see any big deal about Kate riding or not these days, however, she will have to get used to being behind horses in a carriage.  How could allergy be the reason she's not travelling to her wedding ceremony in a closed carriage because it's said she and William will leave the cathedral afterwards in one that is not closed?

Grace is right.  Carriages are still a part of ceremonial life for the RF.  What would Royal Ascot be without the traditional cavalcade of open landaus (apart from cheaper of course!)?

Dispensing with a carriage ride on the wedding day is hardly going to save a huge amount of money, not will it really ruin the day itself.  It was rather wonderful to see Diana ride to the Abbey in the Glass coach and I don't that it ruined the mystery of what she was wearing......

And let's face it, the Windsors will have to put on some kind of show, otherwise they really are going to be seen as stingy by all the other Euro royals who are bound to attend and have plenty of recent royal weddings to compare it to!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 16, 2011, 01:30:50 PM
I still hope for the glass carriage for Kate. We need the mystery and the pomp and circumstance. It is the rare occations like these that people are proud of their country & Royal Family. Cutting cost on the show will only incurr criticism.  :(
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Tony de Gandarillas on January 16, 2011, 02:14:13 PM
What title for Kate?  Yahoo is reporting that she will be known as Duchess of Cambridge.  Is this common title for the grandson of the monarch- Duke of Cambridge?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 16, 2011, 05:22:55 PM
No...Common one is the Prince of Wales. That is taken by the heir to the throne. The second one is Duke of York (George V was Duke of York when his father was Prince of Wales), but that is taken too. The third is Duke of Clarence (not taken and the last one to have it was Prince Albert Victor "Eddy"). The Duke of Cambridge was last taken by one of George III's sons. The last Duke of Cambridge married a commoner and the Dukedom cannot continue.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Tony de Gandarillas on January 16, 2011, 05:39:12 PM
It was reported that the palace did not want to burden young Katherine with legacy of the title of Princess of Wales, which is indelibly linked to Diana, Princess of Wales.  Also, my understanding is that the Queen, being the font of honors, may request that the Dukedom of Cambridge be bestowed on her grandchild Prince William and his wife.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on January 17, 2011, 12:42:15 AM
I agree with Ann & Larry. Kate is going to get it !!! Diana had to ride with her mother-in-law in Sandringham even though she hated horses.

What is Kate going to get?  I think the ride Diana took with the Queen was arranged to try to quell her fear of horse-riding after an accident she had as a child but there didn't seem to be any problem afterwards that she didn't take to it and if there was it was within the family only.

I can't see any big deal about Kate riding or not these days, however, she will have to get used to being behind horses in a carriage.  How could allergy be the reason she's not travelling to her wedding ceremony in a closed carriage because it's said she and William will leave the cathedral afterwards in one that is not closed?

Grace is right.  Carriages are still a part of ceremonial life for the RF.  What would Royal Ascot be without the traditional cavalcade of open landaus (apart from cheaper of course!)?

Dispensing with a carriage ride on the wedding day is hardly going to save a huge amount of money, not will it really ruin the day itself.  It was rather wonderful to see Diana ride to the Abbey in the Glass coach and I don't that it ruined the mystery of what she was wearing......

And let's face it, the Windsors will have to put on some kind of show, otherwise they really are going to be seen as stingy by all the other Euro royals who are bound to attend and have plenty of recent royal weddings to compare it to!

I read they will use the car (Kate & her father) to head to the Church but Kate & William will use a carriage on the route back. Correct?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on January 17, 2011, 07:03:38 AM
It was reported that the palace did not want to burden young Katherine with legacy of the title of Princess of Wales, which is indelibly linked to Diana, Princess of Wales. 

How can she be Princess of Wales?  There is already a current holder of that title - Camilla - she just doesn't use it at this time, that's all.
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 17, 2011, 07:08:34 AM
I agree with Ann & Larry. Kate is going to get it !!! Diana had to ride with her mother-in-law in Sandringham even though she hated horses.

What is Kate going to get?  I think the ride Diana took with the Queen was arranged to try to quell her fear of horse-riding after an accident she had as a child but there didn't seem to be any problem afterwards that she didn't take to it and if there was it was within the family only.

I can't see any big deal about Kate riding or not these days, however, she will have to get used to being behind horses in a carriage.  How could allergy be the reason she's not travelling to her wedding ceremony in a closed carriage because it's said she and William will leave the cathedral afterwards in one that is not closed?

Grace is right.  Carriages are still a part of ceremonial life for the RF.  What would Royal Ascot be without the traditional cavalcade of open landaus (apart from cheaper of course!)?

Dispensing with a carriage ride on the wedding day is hardly going to save a huge amount of money, not will it really ruin the day itself.  It was rather wonderful to see Diana ride to the Abbey in the Glass coach and I don't that it ruined the mystery of what she was wearing......

And let's face it, the Windsors will have to put on some kind of show, otherwise they really are going to be seen as stingy by all the other Euro royals who are bound to attend and have plenty of recent royal weddings to compare it to!

I read they will use the car (Kate & her father) to head to the Church but Kate & William will use a carriage on the route back. Correct?

That is correct.They will use a coach on the way from the Abbey to Buckingham Palace. :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on January 17, 2011, 07:25:05 AM
It was reported that the palace did not want to burden young Katherine with legacy of the title of Princess of Wales, which is indelibly linked to Diana, Princess of Wales. 

How can she be Princess of Wales?  There is already a current holder of that title - Camilla - she just doesn't use it at this time, that's all.

Quite so.  It's so bizarre how often the media get it wrong.  There is obviously no chance of Katherine being Princess of Wales at the moment - not until Charles becomes King and the title falls vacant.  If King Charles then chooses to create his eldest son Prince of Wales, then and only then would Katherine become Princess of Wales.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 17, 2011, 06:36:43 PM
Exactly. She would be only Princess William of Wales or Duchess of Cambridge.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: mcdnab on January 19, 2011, 07:11:42 AM
On her marriage she becomes automatically Princess William of Wales and Royal Highness. It is usual in recent history for Prince's of The Blood with no other title to be granted a title to avoid the confusion over their wives styles. The Queen doesn't request a title to be granted she simply grants it.
One other option that few people have pointed out is that William could simply use a courtesy title (one of his father's lesser one's - for example Earl of Chester).
The Wales style issue is a silly one - we've had Princesses of Wales for centuries. Camilla is legally Princess of Wales but doesn't use it because of sensitivities over the late Diana which is understandable if rather daft. In due course i have no doubt Catherine will be Princess of Wales (on Charles accession to the throne). She certainly will become Duchess of Cornwall at the moment Charles becomes King (the title is automatic to the male heir to the throne whilst Wales has to be created).
One current problem is the lack of traditional royal titles - Victoria avoided the traditional ones for her children because of the associations with her own Hannoverian Uncles - but used traditional titles for her grandsons - Duke of Clarence for Prince Eddie (first used for the second son of Edward III and again for the eldest brother of Edward IV - fell out of useage and York became the preferred title for a second son) and Duke of York for the the future George V.
George V reverted to tradition - using York, Gloucester and Kent for his second, third and fourth surviving sons. The present Queen used tradition for her second son but respected the wishes of her youngest son with regard his wish to have his father's Dukedom which he can only have on the death of the Queen and Prince Philip (as a new creation).
The only really vacant ones are Clarence and Cambridge (Clarence has dodgy associations - the murder of George Duke of Clarence in the 1470s and the early death of Prince Eddie - Edward VII's eldest son) - Cambridge is a relatively recent royal dukedom (first used in the 17th century for sons of the Duke of York who was heir presumptive as the brother of Charles II)  but has strong associations for the Queen as Queen Mary's mother was the sister of the last Hannoverian Duke of Cambridge (who married in contravention of the Royal Marriages Act and couldn't pass the title to his descendants) - Queen Mary's brother Adolphus was created Marquess of Cambridge in 1917 when he relinquished his German styles the title is now extinct though.
Most of the traditional titles aren't extinct and not likely to be - Kent and Gloucester have plenty of heirs and spares, York won't fall vacant again until the death of Prince Andrew (his daughters can't inherit it). Of the titles used by the Hannoverians and for Queen Victoria's sons - Albany is suspended (but belongs to the descendants of the Duke of Saxe Cogurg Gotha), Cumberland is also suspended (would by rights belong to Prince Ernst of Hannover), Edinburgh is held by the Queen's husband, and Connaught is extinct but unlikely because it is an Irish province.

There is of course nothing to stop the Queen (and William) choosing any title though!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on January 19, 2011, 09:16:35 AM
What, you don't think she'd consider Duke of Windsor for William?  :) ;)

I favor Cambridge--it just seems right somehow. And the Cambridges brought a good deal of duty and responsibility to the throne whether as a Duke or a Marquess. And there is the connection with Queen Mary as well, tying the whole thing back to George III.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on January 19, 2011, 09:34:28 AM
To my mind the title Duke of Windsor is indelibly associated with the former Edward VIII, who remains a very touchy subject for the royal family even now.

That is one title the Queen is not going to choose for her grandson. Cambridge has the great advantage of being reasonably uncontroversial and with beneficial associations (Queen Mary and two of her brothers).

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: mcdnab on January 19, 2011, 11:00:41 AM

I agree Windsor is extremely unlikely -  has no tradition at all and unpleasent memories for the Queen in particular.
Personally if it wasn't the awkwardness of Catherine becoming Princess William i think William would have happily waited until his father's accession and with it his elevation to the Dukedom of Cornwall and probably fairly quickly his creation as Prince of Wales.
The public and press will almost certainlyrefer to her as Princess Catherine despite its innacuracy as they did with the late Diana the advantage of a title is that it tend to prevents it from happening as it did with the Duchess of York and has done with the Countess of Wessex.
 
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: bonbon823 on January 19, 2011, 01:32:54 PM
Although the Queen did love her Uncle David; do you think she'd want to honor him by bestowing the title on her grandson?  I suppose it would be too controversial...
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on January 19, 2011, 01:49:44 PM
I think it was made plain at the time Edward received the title Duke of Windsor that it was a one off title exclusively for him and would not be used again in the future for anybody.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 19, 2011, 03:28:50 PM
Well...It would be too far to say that when William becomes king, the Dukedom of Windsor is still a closed subject. Who knows ? Maybe one of his children will be the second Duke of Windsor. But I think Clarence & Cambridge is the closest ones for the Queen to give to William.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on January 19, 2011, 05:02:29 PM
To my mind the title Duke of Windsor is indelibly associated with the former Edward VIII, who remains a very touchy subject for the royal family even now.

That is one title the Queen is not going to choose for her grandson. Cambridge has the great advantage of being reasonably uncontroversial and with beneficial associations (Queen Mary and two of her brothers).

Ann

Although the Queen did love her Uncle David; do you think she'd want to honor him by bestowing the title on her grandson?  I suppose it would be too controversial...



It was a joke, you know. That's why the smiley and the wink. OF COURSE she wouldn't give him that title. I didn't think anyone would believe it was serious consideration.  :o
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 19, 2011, 11:17:20 PM
http://gpdhome.typepad.com/photos/prince_william/index.html

courtesy hja

Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on January 24, 2011, 09:24:38 AM
http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=23-01-2011%20London


courtesy PPE


Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Ilias_of_John on January 27, 2011, 12:15:07 AM
It was reported that the palace did not want to burden young Katherine with legacy of the title of Princess of Wales, which is indelibly linked to Diana, Princess of Wales.  Also, my understanding is that the Queen, being the font of honors, may request that the Dukedom of Cambridge be bestowed on her grandchild Prince William and his wife.

Firstly,
Her Majesty doesent need to request anything to anyone to bestow a title to anyone.
Secondly,
It is my understanding that Prince William will become Duke and hence his  bride will be known as HRH Princess Katherine, Duchess of ??????
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on January 27, 2011, 05:14:06 AM
Doesn't she have to be born a princess to ever attain the title "HRH Princess Katherine"?  Even as the Prince of Wales' wife, Diana was never "HRH Princess Diana" regardless of how often she was referred to as this.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on January 27, 2011, 06:00:35 AM
'Doesn't she have to be born a princess to ever attain the title "HRH Princess Katherine"?  Even as the Prince of Wales' wife, Diana was never "HRH Princess Diana" regardless of how often she was referred to as this.'

Yes, unless she is specifically created a Princess in her own right by the Queen. Recent example is HRH Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester, who was simply HRH the Duchess of Gloucester in her husband's lifetime, but was then created a princess.

William's wife will be either HRH Princess William, or HRH the Duchess of X.

I am fed up with 'Princess Diana'!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on January 27, 2011, 09:39:28 AM
I wonder, when Katherine becomes queen, will people nitpick about how it presumably is technically incorrect to refer to her as Queen Katherine instead of The Queen?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on January 27, 2011, 02:54:05 PM
Calling someone by their correct name and title does not necessarily mean nitpicking.  Isn't it just getting it right?  Do we have to be slack about absolutely everything these days?!!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on January 27, 2011, 03:46:34 PM
Yes, unless she is specifically created a Princess in her own right by the Queen. Recent example is HRH Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester, who was simply HRH the Duchess of Gloucester in her husband's lifetime, but was then created a princess.   William's wife will be either HRH Princess William, or HRH the Duchess of X. I am fed up with 'Princess Diana'! 

Kalafrana, I also share your (and others) irritation with people making repeated errors with regard to royal titles!  It is in that spirit that I must unfortunately also correct you on a technicality.

The late HRH Duchess of Gloucester was not created a princess after her husband's death.  That would have required Letters Patent from the Queen, which for whatever reason were never issued.  Instead, Alice was given special permission as a courtesy from her niece, The Queen, to use the title and style HRH Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester instead of HRH The Dowager Duchess of Gloucester.  She remained legally HRH The Princess William, Dowager Duchess of Gloucester, etc.  It was the same case as the Wessex' children, who remain legally Princes and Princesses with the style of HRH regardless of how they are styled in daily use.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on January 27, 2011, 03:56:53 PM
I just realized how often I've posted on this same topic of incorrect titles over the years.  It makes me wonder if perhaps the royals should simply give up trying to retain the "correct British forms" and move to the continental royal approach.  In Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, etc., they do not draw a title distinction between a monarch's son and the wife of a monarch's son - they are both Prince / Princess in their own right.  The media and public cannot seem to grasp the correct forms anymore - so maybe the time has come to change.

Reminds me of how the present Earl Spencer finally abandoned the traditional pronunciation of Althorp House and Estate, mostly because everyone pronounced it Al-thorpe instead of the original All-thrup.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on January 27, 2011, 04:58:04 PM
Calling someone by their correct name and title does not necessarily mean nitpicking.  Isn't it just getting it right?

I would argue that there are different levels of formality: When discussing her latest dress choice, it seems OK to me for the tabloids to refer to her as Princess Kate. While formal announcements should of course refer to HRH Princess William of Wales. The whole point of courtesy titles is twofold: To provide a more practical way to refer to or adress somebody and to give them more than what their technically entitled to. Hence we refer to Diana's nephew as Viscount Althorp instead of The Honourable Louis Frederick John Spencer.

Reminds me of how the present Earl Spencer finally abandoned the traditional pronunciation of Althorp House and Estate, mostly because everyone pronounced it Al-thorpe instead of the original All-thrup.
Altrup
Strange man who didn't change the spelling instead. There is a reason why York isn't spelled Eboracum, Eoforwic or Jórvík these days.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on January 28, 2011, 04:15:56 AM
'The late HRH Duchess of Gloucester was not created a princess after her husband's death.  That would have required Letters Patent from the Queen, which for whatever reason were never issued.  Instead, Alice was given special permission as a courtesy from her niece, The Queen, to use the title and style HRH Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester instead of HRH The Dowager Duchess of Gloucester.  She remained legally HRH The Princess William, Dowager Duchess of Gloucester, etc.'

Chris

Actually the late Duchess must have been HRH Princess Henry. Prince William of Gloucester was her elder son, who was killed in a flying accident in 1972.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on January 28, 2011, 08:41:02 AM
Oops, of course you are correct.  Henry, not William. 
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on January 28, 2011, 09:21:52 AM
Not to worry. Just nitpicking.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on January 28, 2011, 09:23:49 AM
Calling someone by their correct name and title does not necessarily mean nitpicking.  Isn't it just getting it right?

I would argue that there are different levels of formality: When discussing her latest dress choice, it seems OK to me for the tabloids to refer to her as Princess Kate. While formal announcements should of course refer to HRH Princess William of Wales. The whole point of courtesy titles is twofold: To provide a more practical way to refer to or adress somebody and to give them more than what their technically entitled to. Hence we refer to Diana's nephew as Viscount Althorp instead of The Honourable Louis Frederick John Spencer.

I see your point - although I adopt a different argument.  If there is going to be a protocol for titles and styles in place, it should be used in all cases.  If you are going to pick and choose from multiple forms depending on the situation, that waters down the original purpose and it becomes worthless in my opinion.

Which brings us back to the original purpose.  Back when Europe's powers were truly governed by royalty and aristocracy, it was essential to be able to clearly identify a person's rank and position in society (which was defined by their paternal bloodline and - for married women - also their husband's bloodline).  That spawned a complex system of titles, styles and forms of address which had to be strictly adhered to in matters of court functions, government, international relations, selection of spouses, society, etc.  It was even more complex because there may be different sets of rules in different countries.  

The differences between Imperial Highness, Royal Highness, Highness or Serene Highness told you who took precedence over whom.  The difference between The Princess Jane, Princess Jane, Princess William, or Jane Princess of X told you immediately if she was a monarch's daughter, monarch's granddaughter, the wife of a monarch's son or grandson, or a widow / ex-wife.  You didn't have to ask - the form told you everything you needed to know (assuming you were properly educated on the topic, which further created social hierarchy).

Today that whole premise doesn't exist anymore.  Fewer royal houses are in power, and they are much smaller.  Monarchs reign but do not rule, nobles do not govern by hereditary right, and royal marriages don't impact diplomatic relations.  There also aren't thousands of extended royal family members from 100+ monarchist countries constantly traveling around Europe who have to be officially received by the host government or courts, invited to the right functions, etc.  So the need for everyone to be able to immediately distinguish between a king's daughter, granddaughter, spouse, widow, etc. merely by hearing a title spoken or reading it on a piece of paper is far less important today.  And getting it wrong might still be frowned upon, but wouldn't potentially end someone's career or cause diplomatic rifts.  

So rather than trying to cling to a system that was put in place to meet the real needs of the 16th - 19th centuries, it probably makes sense to simplify it to match 21st century needs.  

Last point - your comment about the late Princess of Wales' nephew is a perfect example.  Following the rules, the honorific style "Honourable" is never spoken aloud.  It is always written on envelopes (where it is usually abbreviated to The Hon) and written formally elsewhere.  In speech, The Honourable John Smith is referred to simply as Mr John Smith, and The Honourable Viscount Althorp is referred to simply as Viscount Althorp.  

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on January 28, 2011, 12:34:31 PM
I have the feeling that, in the US at least, if William is made a Duke before/on the wedding day she will be referred to as "Kate, Duchess of ___________ ".
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on January 28, 2011, 12:46:15 PM
I have the feeling that, in the US at least, if William is made a Duke before/on the wedding day she will be referred to as "Kate, Duchess of ___________ ".

No doubt she will be "Duchess Kate" to those barbaric tabloids which still are stuck in the Middle Ages! :-)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Selencia on January 29, 2011, 02:40:22 AM
HaHa
Prince William Windsor The Duke of Windsor.
Now that's just cruel.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on January 29, 2011, 04:47:44 AM
Stupid, I would call it.  :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on January 29, 2011, 05:03:25 AM
It's funny how both princess and duchess are considered appropriate terms of endearment to a female (being) in English (although I do realize that "duchess" implies a very pampered female), whereas calling a male "my prince" and "my duke" is not exacty interchangeable! And the lower titles: "My marchioness, my countess, my baroness" - now that's outright kinky!

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: mcdnab on February 01, 2011, 05:01:33 AM
Actually it wouldn't be that incorrect lol - A Queen consort is usually just referred to as HM The Queen - in widowhood she is usually Queen (Forename) to distinguish her from the current Queen Consort or Regnant. So during the Queen Mother's widowhood the Household referred to her as Queen Elizabeth and the current monarch was correctly The Queen. However during the reign it is fairly common for the Queen's forename to be used in conversation or in print.


I wonder, when Katherine becomes queen, will people nitpick about how it presumably is technically incorrect to refer to her as Queen Katherine instead of The Queen?
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on February 06, 2011, 12:19:16 PM
The Couple will have Canadian stamps:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/02/william-and-kate-to-get-canadian-stamps.html

courtesy hja
Title: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on February 12, 2011, 08:52:10 AM
Really.. ::)..:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/02/british-scouts-help-william-find-kate.html

courtesy hja
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on February 12, 2011, 02:39:16 PM
Can't they find anything more worthwhile for the scouts to do than this rubbish?  Unbelievable!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Robert_Hall on February 12, 2011, 03:13:42 PM
looking at it from the otherside of the coin,  with all the missing persons, especially children,  the Scouts do  get involved these searches. Perhaps this session was to make the  "victims"  more realistic ? It is  fairly OTT, I agree, but hopefully for as good purpose.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on February 14, 2011, 07:13:03 AM
The British Monarchy Facebook page has released a list of the attendants for the April 29 wedding:

The Wedding of HRH Prince William of Wales and Catherine Middleton – Maid of Honour and Bridesmaids, Best Man and Page Boys
Miss Catherine Middleton has asked her sister, Miss Philippa Middleton, to be her Maid of Honour.
Prince William has asked his brother, Prince Harry, to be his Best Man. Prince William and Miss Middleton have chosen the following Bridesmaids and Page Boys:
The Lady Louise Windsor (Aged 7 – daughter of The Earl and Countess of Wessex)
The Hon. Margarita Armstrong-Jones (Aged 8 – daughter of Viscount and Viscountess Linley)
Miss Grace van Cutsem (Aged 3 – daughter of Mr and Mrs Hugh van Cutsem)
Miss Eliza Lopes (Aged 3 – daughter of Mr and Mrs Harry Lopes)
Master William (Billy) Lowther-Pinkerton (Aged 10 – son of Mr and Mrs Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton)
Master Tom Pettifer (Aged 8 – son of Mr and Mrs Charles Pettifer )
Miss Grace van Cutsem and Master Tom Pettifer are godchildren of Prince William.
Details about the Bridesmaids’ dresses and the Page Boys’ uniforms will be made available on the Wedding Day.
Title: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on February 14, 2011, 10:58:02 AM
http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/02/prince-harry-to-be-williams-best-man.html

courtesy hja :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on February 14, 2011, 11:08:43 AM
The British Monarchy Facebook page has released a list of the attendants for the April 29 wedding:

The Wedding of HRH Prince William of Wales and Catherine Middleton – Maid of Honour and Bridesmaids, Best Man and Page Boys
Miss Catherine Middleton has asked her sister, Miss Philippa Middleton, to be her Maid of Honour.
Prince William has asked his brother, Prince Harry, to be his Best Man. Prince William and Miss Middleton have chosen the following Bridesmaids and Page Boys:
The Lady Louise Windsor (Aged 7 – daughter of The Earl and Countess of Wessex)
The Hon. Margarita Armstrong-Jones (Aged 8 – daughter of Viscount and Viscountess Linley)
Miss Grace van Cutsem (Aged 3 – daughter of Mr and Mrs Hugh van Cutsem)
Miss Eliza Lopes (Aged 3 – daughter of Mr and Mrs Harry Lopes)
Master William (Billy) Lowther-Pinkerton (Aged 10 – son of Mr and Mrs Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton)
Master Tom Pettifer (Aged 8 – son of Mr and Mrs Charles Pettifer )
Miss Grace van Cutsem and Master Tom Pettifer are godchildren of Prince William.
Details about the Bridesmaids’ dresses and the Page Boys’ uniforms will be made available on the Wedding Day.

Mrs Charles Pettifer is the former Tiggy Legge-Bourke, nanny to William & Harry. Harry is godfather to her other son.

William (Billy) Lowther-Pinkerton is the son of the part-time Private Secretary to William & Harry.

Eliza Lopes is Camiilla's granddaughter.

Miss Grace van Cutsem is the great-great-granddaughter of  Waldorf Astor, 2nd Viscount Astor and Nancy Witcher Langhorne, the famous Nancy Astor.
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on February 17, 2011, 03:25:46 PM
New coins in a fountain:

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=16-02-2011%20A

Courtesy ppe
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on February 18, 2011, 11:14:21 AM
Thank you for the link, Lucien.

This coin is much better than the one issued by the Royal Mint; however, the likenesses are not quite right either. William's hairline is just wrong (he's not 20 years old any longer) and the woman next to him doesn't look very much like Kate at all. I know, I know...everyone's a critic.

I dub this the royal wedding coin fiasco!
Title: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on February 21, 2011, 11:54:51 PM
Thank you for the link, Lucien.

This coin is much better than the one issued by the Royal Mint; however, the likenesses are not quite right either. William's hairline is just wrong (he's not 20 years old any longer) and the woman next to him doesn't look very much like Kate at all. I know, I know...everyone's a critic.

I dub this the royal wedding coin fiasco!

These are just made for the fountain of "Three coins in a fountain",more tricky tacky "art" will fill up London's shops,and indeed all
of the UK and the Commonwealth......there even are rubbers,...yes,those,with William and Catherine on 'm..I mean really,how tacky
can it get and what rats pop out of the woodworks all over the island...

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Douglas on February 22, 2011, 02:14:44 PM
President and Mrs Obama not invited to royal wedding...

I'm not surprised by this.  They do not belong at this wedding. 
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Robert_Hall on February 22, 2011, 02:54:54 PM
Neither am I, Douglas, Especially as the Obamas will have a state visit so soon after the event. Perhaps the Sec. of State or just the ambassador will attend.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on February 22, 2011, 04:37:56 PM
It seems that the heads of state that are being invited (I think I read 40?) are Commonwealth countries or ones in the Gulf that have a relationship (or the British government wants to cement ties with) already. As Robert pointed out, the Obamas are paying a state visit anyway. One news article also said the British didn't want to deal with the headaches & cost of dealing with the US President. Nancy Reagan attended Charles & Diana's on her own, didn't she? Did anyone attend Andrew's or Anne's? (Edward's was pretty low-key.)

This same article stated that all of the jewels have been pulled out for Kate to peruse--including many that haven't seen the light of day in decades. Hope that's true.  :) They also speculated that even if William becomes Duke of Cambridge (and thus the tiara would be very appropriate) Kate probably won't wear the Cambridge Lover's Knot because of its Diana associations. Still, if Kate does become the Duchess of Cambridge, it would be lovely to see her in some Cambridge jewels--at least down the line.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Robert_Hall on February 22, 2011, 06:07:01 PM
I do not remember who represented the US at the  [first] Wales wedding,  But one of the first ladies was at the Diana funeral, as I recall.
 The Commonwealth states are perfectly understandable.  and any of the   Arab princes would, IMO, be those who are personal friends of the family  such as the Sultan of Brunei.  [I know, not an Arab, but still a Moslem and a  good friend of the Wales.
 BTW, I have been told, quite recently that the Duchess of York was "consulted" about attending,  as her daughters  are part of the wedding party, but it was mutual, she did not expect to go and had other plans anyway. I can see that- she did not wish to distract attention form the bridal couple. I hope the rest of the royal rabble behave with such dignity.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on February 22, 2011, 08:26:15 PM
Are Beatrice & Eugenie just guests? I hadn't seen them listed in the bridal party. It thought it was just Pippa as MOH and then all the little girls.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Patrick M on February 22, 2011, 08:38:44 PM
Nancy Reagan attended the first Wales wedding as the official representative of the United States. Hillary Clinton attended the funeral of Diana, Princess of Wales in a personal capacity. Neither the U.S., nor any other foreign government, had official representatives at the funeral because it was not a state event. Then First Lady, Clinton hosted the princess at a high-profile breakfast at the White House to raise awareness of breast cancer research during the last year of the princess' life.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Robert_Hall on February 22, 2011, 08:45:15 PM
Thank you, Patrick, for the clarification.
  As to the Yorks, to be honest, I do not know what role the princesses will play.  At first I thought they were to be bridesmaids,  but I cannot verify that at all.
 My pal  just told me Sarah was consulted and it was an amicable  arrangement that she not be there. NOT to distract attention from the bridal couple. Easy, when one looks at it. No noise, nastiness nor notoriety.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Douglas on February 22, 2011, 09:33:35 PM
Sarah's two daughters are 'guests' at the wedding.  Also, I would think they would be included in the official family photo portraits after the ceremony.

I believe that Nancy Reagan was personally acquainted with Prince Charles before his marriage to Diana, therefore it was most appropriate that she was invited.  Michelle Obama is not quite in that category.

By graciously opting out of this event it might be a step in rehabilitating Sarah's rather sullied image.  I know our dear Lucien will differ on this point [ you're always on my invitation list, Lucien....;-))]

I understand that the bride has declined the traditional use of horse drawn coaches for this day.  Therefore, I assume that limousines will transport the entourage.  Has anyone heard otherwise?

Robert, will you be on the parade route? I understand you're attending regio sine invitare.

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Robert_Hall on February 23, 2011, 10:22:29 AM
No, Douglas, I do not arrrive in London until 2 weeks after the wedding. I get to see the   Obama show instead.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: grandduchessella on February 23, 2011, 05:42:25 PM
I understand that the bride has declined the traditional use of horse drawn coaches for this day.  Therefore, I assume that limousines will transport the entourage.  Has anyone heard otherwise?

From what I've read, she'll drive by car (a luxurious one, I'm sure!) to the church and they will depart along the procession route by carriage.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Patrick M on February 23, 2011, 10:02:43 PM
Nancy Reagan had not met Prince Charles prior to the first Wales wedding and was not personally invited to attend. The US government was officially invited (invitation to White House via State Dept) -- and Nancy Reagan was chosen as its representative. My understanding is that the President and State Dept could just as legitimately asked Florence Jones from Topeka, Kansas to represent the nation (except there would have been a hopping mad Nancy Reagan to contend with ...).
In the case of William's wedding, the US government did not receive an official invitation, and the Obamas did not receive a personal invitation, so no Obamas and no official representative of the country will be in the Abbey. From what I understand, it's possible that the American ambassador in London or other U.S. diplomat has been invited, but this has not been made public, and regardless,. I believe he/she would be considered a personal invite and not an official representative of the country.   
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Douglas on February 24, 2011, 12:07:34 AM
This post is to correct a couple errors in post #513 above.

Mrs Reagan had indeed met Prince Charles before she attended his wedding in 1981. [ Ref:: http://www.reaganlibrary.com]

  Nancy Reagan met Prince Charles on March 17, 1974 when she and her husband, then Gov. of California, attended a party at the Walter and Mrs. Annenberg home "Sunnylands" in Rancho Mirage, California. The Prince gave a talk during the event. In fact it was also St. Patrick’s Day and some of the guests wore green.

Prince Charles and Princess Diana invited  president Ronald Reagan and his wife Nancy to their 1981 ceremony – though she came alone because the president was too ill to travel due to an assassination attempt on him earlier in his term as President.

For their 1981 wedding the  royal couple invited the President and Mrs Reagan in a personal and formal manner.   It would have been improper to have invited The White House and frankly rather insulting.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339315/President-Obama-snubbed-sources-reveal-invited-Prince-Williams-wedding.html#ixzz1EqtR748I
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Robert_Hall on February 24, 2011, 10:44:35 AM
Thanks, Douglas. I thought the Reagan/Wales connection went  back further than we might have presumed. The Prince of Wales, as I recall, was even a target of Nixon's [shudder] for a possible match with one of his daughters, around the time he developed his "Imperial Presidency".
 In the end, who really cares and what difference does any of it make? Car or carriage, hooey. Betty Crocker bridal cakes, blah.  If the bride's dress becomes off-the shelf at Kmart [or whatever], maybe a bit of a market ruffle.  But even then, it will just be a loss leader, would it not?
 I would rather be be with the Duchess of York, being a Euro-slob sipping Cosmos than  with the mob in  Westminster.
 BTW,according to the BBC,  EVERY ambassador has been invited, it is simply pro forma. Whether they  attend or not is up to them. And with the dramatic changes going on now, I imagine several will not, or no longer even be ambassadors.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on February 24, 2011, 08:10:54 PM
Oh my goodness!!! Did you all see the joint engagement that Prince William and soon to be Princess William attended today?!?! She was BRILLIANT! Bless her heart, she did a fantastic job. She is a natural just like her soon to be husband.

I'm not British (however, my English great-grandfather met (and eventually fell in love with) my English great-grandmother in Victoria station London), but this American girl is so proud of her. She is adorable!

Congratulations, Kate...your first Royal engagement and you did so well. = )

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on February 24, 2011, 08:16:27 PM
P.S. I loved her hair pulled back in a ponytail (super practical and a smart choice considering the weather conditions)...and her outfit....and watching her interact with those in attendance especially the little ones.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Patrick M on February 24, 2011, 09:03:23 PM
Douglas - I have a lot of respect for you but on this one I know what I am talking about. I only post twice a year, and only when I (think I) know my stuff. I would tell you my job title, and then you would believe me, but don't want to potentially get in any trouble. Suffice it to say that I work in protocol in Washington DC. I DID indeed make an error in my earlier post and did not know about the earlier meeting of Charles and the Reagans in California, but I did re-check my facts today. The invitation to Charles/Diana's wedding was an official govt invitation. It was not a personal invite to the Reagans and it did not go to the White House, although sometimes a copy is sent to the WH as a courtesy. Charles/Diana may have HOPED the Reagans would attend their wedding, and maybe were pleased when Nancy Regan was named the official representative, but that's all. For an official government invitation of this caliber (weddings and funerals that are matters of State), the sender doesn't get to pick the guest, regardless of whose name is on the envelope (typically the Secty of State or Chief of Protocol, actually). Deciding who attend is the job of the US State Department, in consultation with the President. 
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Douglas on February 25, 2011, 02:35:20 AM
Hi Patrick, you're going to have to come up with more convincing evidence about the royal invitation than you have so far.

Here is an invitation from Charles' 1981 wedding that's up for auction.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/Douglas606/weddinginvitation22.jpg)

  All of the royal wedding invitations I've seen have ER II stamped in gold at the top.  Below that are two lines where the actual name of the invited is hand written.  According to the Reagan Museum in Simi Valley, CA, the President and Mrs. Reagan were personally invited to the wedding by name.  

 The idea that the Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh would invite "The United States - State Department" or some other impersonal moniker, as you assert, seems rather unlikely and would be very insulting to the Reagans.  Weddings are very personal events.

Here is the fictional dialogue for the AP readers amusement, RR,  "Hey Nancy, the State Department  sent over this invitation.  Are you interested in going?"

Come on Patrick, let's be serious on this website.
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on February 25, 2011, 08:47:02 AM
Their first official engagement together,a natural:

http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?page=1&ShowPicture=14987586&pos=5

http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?page=1&ShowPicture=14988169&pos=4

http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?page=1&ShowPicture=14987343&pos=7

Courtesy Phil Noble. ;D

And more from yesterday:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/02/wales-cheers-wills-and-kate-.html

The Prince and his fiancee travelled to St.Andrews today:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/02/william-and-kate-return-to-st-andrews.html

courtesy hja
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eddie_uk on February 25, 2011, 10:45:57 AM
Hi Patrick, you're going to have to come up with more convincing evidence about the royal invitation than you have so far.


Well, I am still waiting on your convincing evidence that the Queen wears a wig!! We have been waiting a few years for that at least!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Douglas on February 25, 2011, 07:18:40 PM
Hi Patrick, you're going to have to come up with more convincing evidence about the royal invitation than you have so far.


Well, I am still waiting on your convincing evidence that the Queen wears a wig!! We have been waiting a few years for that at least!


I don't have too provide any evidence...it's all too obvious.  Besides that, in 1982 Michael Fagan stated that her dressing table displayed her wigs.  

Ref: TIME Jul 1982, "The hyperbolic British press went wild over the incident. The Sun, whose more than 4 million daily circulation is the largest in the country, is said to have paid Fagan's wife, Christine for the rights to her story and proceeded to tantalize readers with various comments: the Queen was wearing a shortie nightgown at the time; she had the figure of a 16-year-old; her wig, so Fagan  told Christine, was sitting in her room. Other papers made much of the fact that Elizabeth and Prince Philip obviously have separate bedrooms...."

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,922952-2,00.html#ixzz1F1ZIXxj1

 Helen Mirren as Queen Elizabeth in The Queen bought the QE II wig she wore at the same establishment that the Queen bought hers.  QE II wears a wig as a convenience for her public appearances and has for decades.  It's really nothing to be so worried and anxious about.  QE II is a wise and practical woman.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on February 25, 2011, 08:10:16 PM
Michael Fagan = a complete nutcase.  The Sun = a British tabloid known for its inventive stories.  Helen Mirren wearing a wig to play HM = quite understandable to get the right look, but none of this is "convincing evidence" as far as I can see...probably Eddie too...the Queen has a good head of hair, always has and it looks COMPLETELY NATURAL to me.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Patrick M on February 25, 2011, 08:54:55 PM
Douglas - This is my last response, because you are sort of nasty to me (which makes you look like a jerk and a bully). This is supposed to be fun and you're not nice, so I'm out. (Sweet Eddie, in contrast, is only nasty when someone has thrown the first stone). Anyhoo, I never asserted that the invitation said "State Dept", I said that it was not a personal invitation, it was a state invitation. It came to the US State Department. Your friends at the Reagan Museum can say whatever they want, but invitations and responses to state events follow diplomatic channels that have been worked out over centuries. Why would the US government have paid for the Steuben bowl the US gave the royal couple, if it was personal?!? The invitation was in all likelihood discussed by the Chief of Protocol at State with the President's Chief of Staff. They would then move to a discussion of the political and PR advantages and disadvantages to the President and/or First Lady in accepting the invite. If they decided not to, someone else would have represented them. A personal invite doesn't allow for: "I can't come but my cousin Millie will stand in for me." A state invitation does. I don't care if you believe me.


Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Douglas on February 25, 2011, 10:03:01 PM
The Steuben bowl that Mrs Reagan gave to the royal couple at their 1981 wedding was valued at $75,000.  The price was lowered by the seller and Mrs Reagan paid $8,000 for it from her personal funds.
Evidently she paid a bargain basement price for the bowl.  She is reported to have mentioned the valuable publicity the gift would give the maker [as she did with the gifts of her gowns].  Other reports say the bowl might actually have been worth over $200,000.  Who knows?

The US government does not pay for wedding gifts that the President or his wife might give to newlyweds.
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on February 25, 2011, 11:17:06 PM
Their first official engagement together,a natural:

http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?page=1&ShowPicture=14987586&pos=5

http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?page=1&ShowPicture=14988169&pos=4

http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?page=1&ShowPicture=14987343&pos=7

Courtesy Phil Noble. ;D

And more from yesterday:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/02/wales-cheers-wills-and-kate-.html

The Prince and his fiancee travelled to St.Andrews today:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/02/william-and-kate-return-to-st-andrews.html

courtesy hja

This is not about who wears a damn wig,no-one cares except rags and the brainless lot who reads them.
This is William and Catherines thread,and theirs only,mail or PM on wigs,no posts please,kiddo's... ::)

St.Andrews yesterday:

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=25-02-2011%20Papal

Courtesy PPE :)


Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Douglas on February 26, 2011, 01:08:21 AM
The name of the person invited is hand written  between the two lines of the invitation.  At the lower left is the RSVP.....required.

 Note that his grandmother is hosting the wedding rather than his father, the heir.    It might be all about what member of the RF is the least stained by scandal.  QE II seems to rule the roost at this event. When you look at this invitation and his father's in 1981,  note the similarities and differences.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/Douglas606/prince-william-and-kate-s-royal-wedding-invitation-revealed-olsen-twins-news-com-580x480.jpg)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Eddie_uk on February 26, 2011, 01:12:11 AM
Exactly Grace!!  :-* & you are completely right Lucien! My point being that it was a bit much of Douglas to request convincing evidence when he never provides it himself! ;)

Back to the wedding of the decade. Will Kate wear a wig do you think?

 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Douglas on February 26, 2011, 01:29:45 AM
The invitation was sent out to 1900 guests (the Obamas not among them), 600 of which will be invited to the Queen’s reception at Westminster Abbey following the ceremony and 300 of which will be invited to the dinner Prince Charles is hosting at Buckingham Palace later that evening.

The invitations are mailed in plain manila envelopes, without inner envelope. 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/Douglas606/invitation_jt_110220_xwide.jpg)

+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

The Royal wedding Plan is as Follows -

Miss Kate Middleton is going to travel to Westminster Abbey by car via the Mall, Horse Guards Parade, Whitehall and Parliament Square.

 The wedding ceremony will begin at 1100 BST,the Dean of Westminster is going to conduct the service, the Archbishop of Canterbury will marry William and Kate and after that the Bishop of London is going to give the address.

After the wedding ceremony is finished the  couple will travel in a carriage procession to Buckingham Palace along the same route from where Miss Kate Middleton traveled.

The Queen will host the Reception .The Royal couple are expected to make the traditional appearance on the Buckingham Palace balcony before heading inside for the reception.

In the Evening a special Dinner will be hosted by the Prince of Wales which will be followed by a dance party with close Freinds and family members.
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on February 27, 2011, 03:29:33 AM
The hullabaloo over the invites is way over the top.William is not an Heir,but an Heir Apparent,so it's all a tad
lower key then when an Heir gets wed.So no dishy Barack and Michelle.The Crowned Heads were invited,yes,
well,they're all family,over 40 of Europes Royals have been invited...Romania and Serbia already screamed that
from the top of their lungs over a month ago,a no no,but Margarita and Radu,and Alexander and his spouse will
show up,that's certain.

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/02/st-andrews-welcomes-william-and-kate.html

And on friday,Royal condolences for New Zealand:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/02/royal-condolences-for-new-zealand.html

courtesy hja

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on March 01, 2011, 02:19:50 PM
Kate and William will go on their first overseas visit together in June/July - to Canada, including Québec. Does Kate speak French? I seriously hope so, as she hasn't many other qualifications going for her.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on March 01, 2011, 02:35:17 PM
I heard she will learn it. But I heard, too the the BRF is´t really interested in other languages. :D
She has some skills in Italian AFAIK.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on March 01, 2011, 04:02:34 PM
But I heard, too the the BRF is´t really interested in other languages. :D
Yes, they have enough trouble speaking their own, e.g. George VI. (I know, a very low and mean shot, but I'm just angry with all those Oscars for such an uncontroversial, airbrushed, whitewashed and hagiographic version of history as "The King's Speech.")

Seriously, the Queen is fluent in French and she didn't even go to a regular school, much less a university!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on March 01, 2011, 09:14:48 PM
Kate and William will go on their first overseas visit together in June/July - to Canada, including Québec. Does Kate speak French? I seriously hope so, as she hasn't many other qualifications going for her.

Oh, for God's sake, give her a chance.  Education is not everything and that applies probably more so in the job she's taking on.  The last person I'd want to see in her position is some over-educated academic with minimal personality or ability to connect with people.  If she doesn't speak any French now, I'm sure she'll brush up enough to speak an acceptable amount in the few months she has before the visit.  I don't think William has any command of foreign languages either so he will probably do the same.   
Title: Official Wedding site:HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on March 02, 2011, 09:46:18 AM
The Official Wedding website is on as of today:

http://www.officialroyalwedding2011.org/

 :)

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on March 02, 2011, 11:42:17 AM
Oh, for God's sake, give her a chance.  Education is not everything and that applies probably more so in the job she's taking on.  The last person I'd want to see in her position is some over-educated academic with minimal personality or ability to connect with people.  If she doesn't speak any French now, I'm sure she'll brush up enough to speak an acceptable amount in the few months she has before the visit.  I don't think William has any command of foreign languages either so he will probably do the same.    

William is a helicopter pilot. Sure, it would be nice if he also had some foreign language skills, but he sure has earned himself some professional skills! If he wasn't a royal, he could work as a rescue pilot or a commercial helicopter pilot.

I am not unsympathetic to Kate, she is a kind of "poor rich girl" trapped between her own family's money and social climbing and her in-law's unique need for discretion. Somebody should have given her a kick behind and demand she fullfill her potential to be something more than a mere socialite.

Or perhaps she should be paraded around as a symbol of the "lost generation" of British youth who are unemployable because of their educational choices and the recession?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on March 03, 2011, 12:16:15 AM
The last person I'd want to see in her position is some over-educated academic with minimal personality or ability to connect with people.

Like Vicky, the Empress Friedrich? Yes, we know how that ended and so much the worse for the people who failed to appreciate her!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on March 03, 2011, 01:05:54 PM
I am not unsympathetic to Kate, she is a kind of "poor rich girl" trapped between her own family's money and social climbing and her in-law's unique need for discretion. Somebody should have given her a kick behind and demand she fullfill her potential to be something more than a mere socialite.  Or perhaps she should be paraded around as a symbol of the "lost generation" of British youth who are unemployable because of their educational choices and the recession?

I'm a bit confused as to what you expect of the dear girl?  Prior to meeting Prince William, Miss Catherine was a college student from a well-off family.  Except for William, she may have gone on to start a career, or perhaps married and raised a family, or perhaps simply led the life of a socialite enjoying her 20s and the freedom that being from a comfortable upbringing provides.  There's nothing wrong with any of those options...of course we'll never know what might have occurred.  She met the Prince in 2001 when she was just 19 years old - and being his girlfriend meant her decisions were not solely her own. 

So long as the relationship was proceeding forward, so long as there was the potential for an eventual marriage, she had to choose her path carefully. The palace, William's family, and the entire world would be watching for missteps, any sign that she wasn't suitable as a future princess or queen.  In those circumstances, why would anybody bother to start a career that might have to be abandon as soon as a ring was offered?  The best she could do is keep busy and stay out of trouble while she waited to see what would happen.  Going into her family's business for a bit seems to me the perfect option at the time.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on March 03, 2011, 03:05:43 PM
I'm a bit confused as to what you expect of the dear girl?
I think I expect some kind of magic. And in lieu of the magic of a princess from a far-away realm,  the poor working class Cinderella from the terraces or even council estate or at very least a born and bred aristocratic lady or the total surprise of your average middle-class Miss Jones from the semi-detached next door as a royal bride, upper middle class royal brides simply have an image problem, despite how much we love the Forsyte Saga. The case of the not exactly wildly popular Queen Sonja in Norway highlights the issue, even though how her husband had to fight her father-in-law to be allowed to marry her added some much needed romance to the match.

Perhaps some will find her parents' success enough of a fairytale, though. I would have liked to see some personality from Kate to make up for her boring background. 

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So long as the relationship was proceeding forward, so long as there was the potential for an eventual marriage, she had to choose her path carefully. The palace, William's family, and the entire world would be watching for missteps, any sign that she wasn't suitable as a future princess or queen.
I think there currently are more Britons resenting her for what she is than there would be Britons who would have resented her if she had shown a little more personality.
And the real powers that be probably don't care at all.

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In those circumstances, why would anybody bother to start a career that might have to be abandon as soon as a ring was offered?
For the same reason William has. Why, she could have joined him in the Forces! That would have been something!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Lucien on March 03, 2011, 10:03:38 PM
It must be the season again,remarkeble how the seasons seem to follow-up faster after a welcome breath of peace..
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on March 03, 2011, 11:04:39 PM
It must be the season again,remarkeble how the seasons seem to follow-up faster after a welcome breath of peace..


oops,I forgot,here it is:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_special/2011/02/bruidspersoneel-voor-kate-en-william.html

http://twitter.com/clarencehouse/

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/02/comic-book-tells-story-of-william-kate.html

courtesy hja
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on March 04, 2011, 04:09:25 PM
Oh no...another awful commemorative wedding coin. Really, they should just stop. It's pathetic.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/entertainment/post/2011/03/royal-mint-issues-new-commemorative-coin-for-william-kate/1
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on March 04, 2011, 04:26:58 PM
Hilarious!

I found this one

http://www.williamkate2011wedding.com/web_images/website_4_copy.jpg

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Douglas on March 04, 2011, 06:52:26 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/Douglas606/kate.jpg)

Does anyone know who these two California surf bunnies might be?  They're mysteriously appearing on a coin from the Royal Mint.  The 1960s girl looks like she needs some sleep and bouffant  boy is gasping for air.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on March 04, 2011, 07:41:20 PM
I just watched an interview with Natascha Kampusch (the kidnapped Austrian girl) on TV and that girl looks just like her!
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Douglas on March 04, 2011, 10:43:42 PM
I just watched an interview with Natascha Kampusch (the kidnapped Austrian girl) on TV and that girl looks just like her!


Thank you Fedor for clearing up this matter.  So it's Natascha.  Now we have to figure out who the guy is.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on March 05, 2011, 01:23:13 AM
we have to figure out who the guy is.

A young Boris Yeltsin!?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Tony de Gandarillas on March 05, 2011, 02:29:56 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/Royal_Diary_Blog/fake-invitations-royal-wedding-discovered/story?id=13037956

Story about fake royal wedding invitations.

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Douglas on March 05, 2011, 12:31:46 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/Royal_Diary_Blog/fake-invitations-royal-wedding-discovered/story?id=13037956
Story about fake royal wedding invitations.

Oh well, no surprise here. Why would anyone want one of the invitations at that price?

 Of course, at the wedding, all invitees are checked in at the entrance by security.  Each invitation is compared to an official list of names.  I suppose it could happen but it's doubtful that one would be able to crash the wedding.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on March 08, 2011, 09:11:03 PM
Prince William is to visit New Zealand and Australian recent disaster zones, arriving on Thursday March 17.  Nice gesture.  I would love the chance to see him whilst he's in Australia!    

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5giE19_nWgnzGU50I_VV37jfdvaqA?docId=CNG.0f22dda0f0c294a4d2cc6009ec5d466e.101 (http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5giE19_nWgnzGU50I_VV37jfdvaqA?docId=CNG.0f22dda0f0c294a4d2cc6009ec5d466e.101)
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on March 09, 2011, 10:00:02 AM
Prince William is to visit New Zealand and Australian recent disaster zones, arriving on Thursday March 17.  Nice gesture.  I would love the chance to see him whilst he's in Australia!    

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5giE19_nWgnzGU50I_VV37jfdvaqA?docId=CNG.0f22dda0f0c294a4d2cc6009ec5d466e.101 (http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5giE19_nWgnzGU50I_VV37jfdvaqA?docId=CNG.0f22dda0f0c294a4d2cc6009ec5d466e.101)

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/03/william-and-kate-going-down-under.html

courtesy hja
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on March 13, 2011, 07:41:41 AM
Does anyone understand why they invite Kates uncle Gary, who sells drugs and young girls?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: darius on March 13, 2011, 10:58:02 AM
Does anyone understand why they invite William´s uncle who sells....
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Rani on March 13, 2011, 11:07:08 AM
I just heard now that the secret service told that Andrew should not go to the wedding. Just rumours of course. But it would be better IMO.

_____

Guests who got an invite:

Norway: Harald and Sonja
Sweden: Victoria and Daniel
Denmark: Margrethe and Henrik
Greece: King and Cp
Romania: King and Cpss
Serbia: Cp




Elton John, the Beckhams
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on March 13, 2011, 04:54:19 PM
Advisors tell the royal family who SHOULD be invited to the wedding from the point of view of protocol etc. but I doubt they or anyone else have the right to tell them who NOT to invite.  Surely that would be up to the family, the Queen having the final say?  She's not really going to say her second son Prince Andrew, uncle to William, can't attend William's wedding because he is currently embroiled in controversy, is she?  It might be a different thing if he'd been found guilty of a criminal offence in a court of law.  The wedding is still a family event first and foremost.
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on March 14, 2011, 02:45:31 AM
Advisors tell the royal family who SHOULD be invited to the wedding from the point of view of protocol etc. but I doubt they or anyone else have the right to tell them who NOT to invite.  Surely that would be up to the family, the Queen having the final say?  She's not really going to say her second son Prince Andrew, uncle to William, can't attend William's wedding because he is currently embroiled in controversy, is she?  It might be a different thing if he'd been found guilty of a criminal offence in a court of law.  The wedding is still a family event first and foremost.

Ofcourse not Grace,you are right,no-one tells the Family whom NOT to invite.It is entirely
up to them and them alone.They didn't hetch from an egg and they know very well who is
welcome and who isn't.It is entirely up to them,all the rest is bruhaha over nothing.

Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on March 14, 2011, 10:06:12 PM
It will be the gathering of Heirs and Spares in the Abbey next month.

Victoria and Daniel of Sweden will attend.TM the King and Queen of Sweden will not,
due to HM 65th birthday celebrations the day after on the 30th.

The Prince of Orange and Princess Máxima will be in attendance as well in London.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: heavensent on March 16, 2011, 11:35:56 AM
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Prince William in Wax


(http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/670/princewilliamsieueuueue.jpg) (http://img847.imageshack.us/i/princewilliamsieueuueue.jpg/)
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on March 17, 2011, 12:12:29 AM
HRH is touring the disaster areas in New Zealand and Australia at present.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12768648

Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on March 17, 2011, 08:57:41 AM
So,the chinese try and make a buck on the wedding...except...they've put the wrong Prince on the mugs.. ::)
Would Harry mind...?... :D

http://www.guandongenterprisesltd.com

 ;D
Title: NZ & Oz:HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on March 17, 2011, 01:50:07 PM
HRH is touring the disaster areas in New Zealand and Australia at present.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12768648



http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?mailingid=22599&flush=1

courtesy ANP

Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on March 22, 2011, 12:34:28 AM
TIH Crown Prince Naruhito and Crown Princess Masako will not attend the wedding of William and Catherine on april 29th.
Due to the recent eartquake & tsunami & nuclair disaster leaving thousands of dead and even more thousands still missing,
they do not see it fit to go abroad and party but instead remain at home in solidarity with victims and all affected by this
massive disaster.

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/nieuwsberichten/2011/03/masako-and-naruhito-skip-wedding.html

courtesy hja
Title: HRH Prince William in Queensland
Post by: Lucien on March 22, 2011, 10:14:37 AM
http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/03/william-sees-flood-destruction-in-qland.html

courtesy hja

And more junk from the weddingfront......tacky as tacky comes....:

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=22-03-2011%20London

Courtesy PPE

Title: Carriages to be used at wedding:HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on March 22, 2011, 11:21:56 AM
More information on the carriages to be used on april 29th.

http://www.officialroyalwedding2011.org/blog/2011/March/22/The-Wedding-Carriages

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Robert_Hall on March 22, 2011, 02:01:07 PM
It has been my experience, and I have been through 3 royal weddings, is that the only people who buy this  crap are Japanese and American tourists. Used to be, one the interest waned, you could get the stuff from now-extinct Woolworth's at a fraction of the price.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: RoyalWatcher on March 22, 2011, 10:02:52 PM
I bet you are absolutely correct, Robert_Hall!

This American girl would love to get my hands on one of the items being offered through The Royal Collection web store, but the shipping charges are just criminal!
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on March 24, 2011, 12:52:55 PM
http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/03/cd.html

courtesy HJA ;D

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Robert_Hall on March 24, 2011, 02:05:35 PM
BTW, this  royal wedding stuff will end up on Ebay UK soon enough, if  one is willing to pay  the postage.
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on March 27, 2011, 08:41:57 AM

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/03/william-self-confident-as-marriage-looms.html

courtesy hja


Princess Máxima,while in NYC earlyer last week,was asked what tips she had for the future Princess Catherine;
' To remain close to herself always and she will be allright.It is the most fantastic job you can imagine."


Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on March 28, 2011, 12:19:43 PM
Beer anyone...???

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=27-03-2011%20Castle

courtesy ppe

Piece of cake?

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/03/for-william-kate-2-cakes-better-than-1-.html

courtesy hja


Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on March 31, 2011, 10:00:25 AM
New stamps of the couple on occasion of their wedding:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c648253ef0147e39088f1970b-pi

Courtesy hja :)
Title: HRH Prince William showing grandparents around
Post by: Lucien on April 04, 2011, 10:20:59 PM
HM and the Duke made a visit to RAF Valley,Anglesey and were shown around by their grandson William.

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/04/william-shows-his-grandparents-around.html

courtesy hja

Watch it Ma'am,you might take off...:

http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?page=2&ShowPicture=15287490&pos=15

Oh,and on the wedding.With the wedding fever rising,one London pub found the answer to that.
It has a poster on the window saying:" Keep calm,it's only a wedding"..... ;D

Just three more weeks,the lit will be off the kettle,and the roof of the house...

On a house,the first house Catherine lived in in London for 13 years,is on the market in may
for an estimate 460.000 Pound Sterling.Anyone interested in the old place of the future Queen? :D

 
Title: Wedding Schedule of HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on April 08, 2011, 09:42:34 AM
The Palace released the wedding schedule:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/04/palace-announces-wedding-schedule.html


The Church of England published a prayer especially for William and Catherine:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/04/say-a-prayer-for-wills-and-kate.html

courtesy HJA :)
Title: Wedding Schedule of HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on April 08, 2011, 10:32:05 PM
The Palace released the wedding schedule:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/04/palace-announces-wedding-schedule.html


The Church of England published a prayer especially for William and Catherine:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/04/say-a-prayer-for-wills-and-kate.html

courtesy HJA :)

Oh what a doll:

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=08-04-2011%20The

couresy PPE

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: capttrips on April 11, 2011, 12:51:05 PM
As an American, I am extremely confused by this wedding.

First, I thought Charles could not succeed without the Commonwealth of Nations unanimously altering the laws of succession?  Why is London so certain he will succeed?  Parliament's laws are not binding on the Commonwealth.

Second, I thought Kate Middelton was a commoner?  I thought the last time this happened, the King had to abdicate, for himself and his children, now and forever?

What gives?  No offense to the happy couple--may they have a long and happy marriage (but, by God William should never be King.)
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: darius on April 11, 2011, 02:28:17 PM
It really is not as complicated as it appears.

Charles will succeed his mother as King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.  Hi position as King in Canada, Australia and other "realms" will be automatic also.  His position as Head of the Commonwealth will have to be ratified by Commonwealth Heads of Government - it is not an automatic post linked to the Crown per se.

Kate Middleton is a commoner, in so much as she is not a relative or closely descended from a ruling house.  The Windsor House rules changed after WWI allowing members of the Royal Family to marry those not born to a Royal Family, including the sons of the sovereign who hitherto had contracted their (legal) marriages with daughters of ruling or princely houses.  Morganatic marriage didn´t really exist in Britain under Queen Victoria as it was so strongly enforced by her continental cousins.  Thus George V son´s married commoners, albeit from noble, landed families.  By law royal marriages must have the consent of Parliament to be valid and allow the royal to maintain their succession rights.

The abdication of Edward VIII came about because he was determined to marry a divorced American (divorce was then something which was a social no no) against the wishes of the British and Empire govenments - he therefore did not have government consent and could not remain King if he chose to marry.  So Edward VIII lost his throne, his succession rights and those of any future children.

William will therefore become King after the demise of his predecessor in the line of Succession (Queen Elizabeth II - Charles, Prince of Wales - Prince William of Wales) as he is due to contract a marriage approved of by The Queen and her Government.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: capttrips on April 11, 2011, 04:44:24 PM
Darius, you explain it very well, thank you.  But, I thought to alter the laws of sucession (the act of settlement of 1708?) the entire Commonwealth of Nations has to do so unanimously.  London's parliament altered these laws unilaterally in 1945 and again in the 1970s, and no other members of the Commonwealth of Nations have as of yet agreed?

Charles will be King of the United Kingdoms because Parliament passed laws binding on England, but, I am pretty darned certain if that happens, It will be the end of the Brittish Empire forever.

For Charles to become the King of Canada, Australlia, etc., It would take an act of their parliaments?  And, any one parliament can veto all the others, on this issue?  Arguably, the Laws of London, on this issue, are not Law?

Do I understand you correctly, Canada and Australlia as Dominions are still possessions of the UK and have absolutely no modicum of independence when it comes to non-local legislation?  Has anyone told them this?
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on April 12, 2011, 01:19:02 AM
Darius, you explain it very well, thank you.  But, I thought to alter the laws of sucession (the act of settlement of 1708?) the entire Commonwealth of Nations has to do so unanimously.  London's parliament altered these laws unilaterally in 1945 and again in the 1970s, and no other members of the Commonwealth of Nations have as of yet agreed?

Charles will be King of the United Kingdoms because Parliament passed laws binding on England, but, I am pretty darned certain if that happens, It will be the end of the Brittish Empire forever.

For Charles to become the King of Canada, Australlia, etc., It would take an act of their parliaments?  And, any one parliament can veto all the others, on this issue?  Arguably, the Laws of London, on this issue, are not Law?

Do I understand you correctly, Canada and Australlia as Dominions are still possessions of the UK and have absolutely no modicum of independence when it comes to non-local legislation?  Has anyone told them this?

Charles will be King because he's the Heir to the Throne,c´est ca,and no Commonwealth or any other body will ever change the rules that are
in place since over a thousand years,no body,and nobody.Canada and Oz and NZ are as independent as any other nation,except they
share the same Head of State,ie,Queen Elisabeth II,and in future,giving time to live,King Charles.If they opt otherwise then they should
say so,but for the time being they only rumble to try to get a vote from a certain sort of vox populi,but they fail,time and time again,to
get a majority.Canada a republic?How dull can it get in the America´s... ;D ;D.

Anyway,back to the couple,please try and keep this thread dedicated to Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton only.
For posts on other members or showing off how much,or little,one knows,please use the subsequent threads.Thank you. :D

Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton yesterday,I must say,I´m impressed by Miss Middleton,very much so indeed:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/04/william-and-kate-finish-their-tour.html

courtesy HJA :)

And,from Canada with love:

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=11-04-2011%20A

courtesy PPE

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on April 12, 2011, 03:47:05 AM
The Act of Settlement 1701 vests the royal succession in the Electress Sophia of Hanover and her non-Catholic descendants, provided they do not marry Catholics. Technically, only Catholics and persons married to Catholics are excluded from the succession, so a Buddhist could be in line to the throne, though he would have to be prepared to swear to uphold the Church of England at his coronation and there would obviously be problems in his being Supreme Governor of the Church of England! The only amendment to the 1701 Act was in 1936, to give effect to Edward VIII's abdication and to exclude him from the succession in the future, along with any children he might have.

Prince Charles is heir apparent under the terms of the Act of Settlement and will succeed automatically to the British throne and the thrones of Canada etc on the Queen's death, unless he makes a renunciation beforehand. Amending the Act of Settlement would need the approval of those Commonwealth countries.

Ann
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on April 13, 2011, 09:07:52 AM
The Palace released the wedding schedule:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/04/palace-announces-wedding-schedule.html


The Church of England published a prayer especially for William and Catherine:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/04/say-a-prayer-for-wills-and-kate.html

courtesy HJA :)

Oh what a doll:

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=08-04-2011%20The

couresy PPE


http://gpdhome.typepad.com/photos/prince_william/index.html

courtesy HJA :)

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: capttrips on April 13, 2011, 08:22:58 PM
Kalafrana, thank you for clarifying my erroneous understanding of how it all works.

Sorry for any consternation or offense my posts probably caused.

Congratulations to the betrothed and the People of England on this their happy day.  I really do wish them all the best.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: kamlowsky on April 13, 2011, 09:19:08 PM
Prince William and Kate are a lovely couple. She is very beautiful and will make an exquisite bride. I liked the silver coin in color. It is the nicest I've seen.

Thank you Lucien for keeping us up to date. Will the ceremony be seen internationally on television like Charles and Diana wedding was?
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on April 14, 2011, 03:59:24 AM
Prince William and Kate are a lovely couple. She is very beautiful and will make an exquisite bride. I liked the silver coin in color. It is the nicest I've seen.

Thank you Lucien for keeping us up to date. Will the ceremony be seen internationally on television like Charles and Diana wedding was?

Oh yes,sure,it will be broadcast everywhere in Europe and elsewhere,2 billion people will watch is the estimate.
To be compared with what Sweden pulled off last year,yes,alltho that was an exceptional fantastic,and the longest
ever broadcast as it wasn't until 01.00 AM here before it stopped.And Victoria and Daniels thread here on AP drew
several thousand and some forum members and lurkers alike in one single day.

If you might find difficulty to watch it all live in the US,then just tune in to the AP as several here will provide a continuous
report on links to follow directly through the BBC for example as well as a "barrage" of photo's and video's all day long,just
like we did with Victoria and Daniel last year.I get up when Catherine and the UK wakes up,as will Rani I'm sure...grin..and
then I start with what is really news or otherwise worthwhile for all of us here.So tune in here to make sure you don't miss
out on anything that day.

Sweden ofcourse was an Heir but this is about the 2nd in line to the Throne and therefore sits on a different level in protocol.
You will see Heirs and some Spares,40 all in all,but no Reigning Royals like Queen Margrethe or Queen Beatrix for example.
That is in line with the protocol for 2nd's...grin..

I don't know how broadcasts go in the US tho,PBS maybe?Otherwise you have these annoying commercial intervals
and you miss halve the ceremony,or watch it long after it all happened,pity too.Just pop in here,we will have it all!!
All you all out there have to do is to have boxes of Kleenex stand-by ;D

BTW,for the Mods.I would like to suggest to start a William and Catherine Wedding Thread and place it under "Sticky" as
that worked great last year too with Victoria and Daniels wedding,it's so much easyer to find for all who tune in here.
Thank you in advance!! ;) :)

Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on April 14, 2011, 11:29:33 AM
Kalafrana, thank you for clarifying my erroneous understanding of how it all works.  Sorry for any consternation or offense my posts probably caused. Congratulations to the betrothed and the People of England on this their happy day.  I really do wish them all the best.

Captrips - I'll send you a private message with some additional information that will hopefully help you understand how / why the succession in the commonwealth realms matches the British succession.  Hopefully that will help.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: carl fraley on April 16, 2011, 10:57:23 AM
William does not have to have the Consent of parliment to marry as i believe belgium does. The Royal Marriage only requires him to get his grandmothers permission.


It really is not as complicated as it appears.

Charles will succeed his mother as King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.  Hi position as King in Canada, Australia and other "realms" will be automatic also.  His position as Head of the Commonwealth will have to be ratified by Commonwealth Heads of Government - it is not an automatic post linked to the Crown per se.

Kate Middleton is a commoner, in so much as she is not a relative or closely descended from a ruling house.  The Windsor House rules changed after WWI allowing members of the Royal Family to marry those not born to a Royal Family, including the sons of the sovereign who hitherto had contracted their (legal) marriages with daughters of ruling or princely houses.  Morganatic marriage didn´t really exist in Britain under Queen Victoria as it was so strongly enforced by her continental cousins.  Thus George V son´s married commoners, albeit from noble, landed families.  By law royal marriages must have the consent of Parliament to be valid and allow the royal to maintain their succession rights.

The abdication of Edward VIII came about because he was determined to marry a divorced American (divorce was then something which was a social no no) against the wishes of the British and Empire govenments - he therefore did not have government consent and could not remain King if he chose to marry.  So Edward VIII lost his throne, his succession rights and those of any future children.

William will therefore become King after the demise of his predecessor in the line of Succession (Queen Elizabeth II - Charles, Prince of Wales - Prince William of Wales) as he is due to contract a marriage approved of by The Queen and her Government.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kimberly on April 16, 2011, 01:49:24 PM
Scroll down and watch the video :-)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1377166/T-Mobile-Royal-Wedding-advert-Prince-William-Kate-Middleton-dance-aisle.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1377166/T-Mobile-Royal-Wedding-advert-Prince-William-Kate-Middleton-dance-aisle.html)
Title: HRH Prince William and Miss Catherine Middleton
Post by: Lucien on April 18, 2011, 12:13:25 AM
Scroll down and watch the video :-)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1377166/T-Mobile-Royal-Wedding-advert-Prince-William-Kate-Middleton-dance-aisle.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1377166/T-Mobile-Royal-Wedding-advert-Prince-William-Kate-Middleton-dance-aisle.html)

Hilarious,some look so real you could easily mistake one for being the real ... ;D

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/04/see-the-royals-dance-and-swing-at-abbey.html

And finally,the gov is going to clean up some oldfashioned out of date stuff..:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/04/britain-changing-succession-law.html


Good!!

courtesy hja :D
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on April 18, 2011, 07:52:14 AM
As a monarchist, I'm a bit concerned if they truly intend to try and change the law of succession.  While I agree it's discriminatory to have preference for males, and to bar all Catholics (and persons who marry a Catholic), actually changing the law could mark the beginning of the end of the British realms - perhaps the entire monarchy.

All Commonwealth realms would have to approve this change.  That means the governments and parliaments in all realms (there are 16 of them, I believe?) are going to debate the issue for months and months - not to mention the debate being rehashed in the public and media in each country.  The republicans will have a field day with this - arguing how bizarre it is to debate whether or not to give equal succession to boys or girls when - in their minds - the entire idea of hereditary head of state is archaic.  I predict at least some of the realms (particularly Australia, and possibly Canada) will take the opportunity to vote to become republics rather than approve a succession change.  The number of realms will shrink - and God forbid the British nation actually decides to become a republic.   How weird would it be if Britain became  a republic, yet (for example) Belize remained a monarchy?  Would the Windsors have to relocate to a country where they actually reign?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Grace on April 18, 2011, 07:59:40 AM
Yeah, once they start meddling in something like this, it will be disastrous.  If it's not broken, it doesn't need fixing (in my opinion).  
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on April 18, 2011, 09:41:39 AM
Which is exactly why they haven't meddled in it to this point.  No British prime minister wants to be "the one" who started the ball rolling that ultimately ended the monarchy. 

In Britain at least, the Queen's Consent (different from Royal Assent) is required for a bill to be debated in Parliament that affects (directly or by implication) the prerogative, hereditary revenues, or the personal property or interests of the Crown.  Further, on rare occasions  (such as for the House of Lords Act 1999), the consent of the Prince of Wales, as Prince and Great Steward of Scotland, or as Duke of Cornwall, must also be obtained where a Bill affects his interests. This is known as Prince's Consent.

I would imagine therefore that both the Queen's Consent and the Prince's Consent would be necessary before Britain could debate the succession.  I wonder if both would give their consent, knowing the possible consequences?
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Douglas on April 18, 2011, 05:02:20 PM
The royals are a bargain for the UK.  They bring in many times more in tourist dollars than they cost the government.  The royals are what make England what it is.  Without the royals the tabloids would fold up like a wet sack of table scraps.
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: Kalafrana on April 19, 2011, 03:37:20 AM
Small point on the Royal Marriages Act. If the Sovereign does not consent to the marriage, then a person subject to the Act who is over 25 can wait one year and then seek consent from Parliament.

It's never happened. However, this did come into play when Princess Margaret wished to marry Peter Townsend (who was divorced). They did start the year's wait and Princess Margaret reached 25 in that period, but she then decided not to marry Peter Townsend because she would have had to renounce her royal status and place in the succession.

Ann
Title: Re: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Post by: CHRISinUSA on April 19, 2011, 12:04:27 PM
That was certainly the reason that was publicly stated.  Of course, renouncing her "royal status" would have also included loss of her Civil List income and other financial based perks afforded to those persons who hold royal status.