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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Greek Royal Family => Topic started by: LenelorMiksi on December 22, 2005, 02:42:09 PM

Title: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: LenelorMiksi on December 22, 2005, 02:42:09 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/LenelorMiksi/olgagreecegranddaughters.jpg

This photo shows 12 of the 14 granddaughters of Queen Olga!  The two missing are Marie Pavlovna and Princess Eugenie.
From left to right:
Princesses Sophie, Katherine, Cecilie, Marina, Theodora, Xenia Georgievna, Margarita, Elisabeth, Helen (with the crown), Nina Georgievna, Olga, and Irene.

Note how the sisters wear matching oufits if they are near the same age.  I got this somewhere on Birgette's site, but had to ID the ladies myself, and I'm pretty sure I've got them right.
Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: grandduchessella on December 28, 2005, 05:22:13 PM
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http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/LenelorMiksi/olgagreecegranddaughters.jpg

This photo shows 12 of the 14 granddaughters of Queen Olga!  The two missing are Marie Pavlovna and Princess Eugenie.
From left to right:
Princesses Sophie, Katherine, Cecilie, Marina, Theodora, Xenia Georgievna, Margarita, Elisabeth, Helen (with the crown), Nina Georgievna, Olga, and Irene.

Note how the sisters wear matching oufits if they are near the same age.  I got this somewhere on Birgette's site, but had to ID the ladies myself, and I'm pretty sure I've got them right.


Thanks for the IDs.  :)  I got the photo from a wedding issue from Marina's wedding but they didn't identify anyone!  :(

Here's the other one mentioned--of Olga with her granddaughters.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/balkans/grolgagd1w.jpg)

There was also one of her taken with her children around the same time. Was it an anniversary of some sort?

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/balkans/023-20051w.jpg)
Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on December 29, 2005, 04:35:25 PM
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http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/LenelorMiksi/olgagreecegranddaughters.jpg

This photo shows 12 of the 14 granddaughters of Queen Olga!  The two missing are Marie Pavlovna and Princess Eugenie.
From left to right:
Princesses Sophie, Katherine, Cecilie, Marina, Theodora, Xenia Georgievna, Margarita, Elisabeth, Helen, Nina Georgievna, Olga, and Irene.



Lovely picture indeed, but left to right is:Sophia, Catherine, Cecilia, Marina, Margarita, Xenia,
Theodora, Olga, Helen, Nina, Elisabeth and Irene.

But why is Maria and Eugenia are missing?

Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 29, 2005, 05:58:06 PM
Yes why ?  ???
Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: LenelorMiksi on December 30, 2005, 12:31:09 AM
I think both were in France when this picture was taken.
Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: LenelorMiksi on December 30, 2005, 12:46:09 PM
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Lovely picture indeed, but left to right is:Sophia, Catherine, Cecilia, Marina, Margarita, Xenia,
Theodora, Olga, Helen, Nina, Elisabeth and Irene.

But why is Maria and Eugenia are missing?



Thanks for the corrections!  I'm forever getting Margarita and Dolla mixed up in photos, but I think Dolla had a thinner nose.  I know Maria lived in France during the 1920s, and didn't have much money so that could be why she is missing.  Eugenie, I believe, also lived in France at that time, but I don't know why she didn't go to this family get-together.
Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: KarlandZita on January 13, 2008, 12:26:24 PM
I wanted to dedicate this thread to all the granddaughters of Queen Olga of Greece, from the Royal families of Greece or Russia.

I invite members of this forum to participate by posting pictures of these Princesses renowned for both their beauty, their charm, their elegance and nobility of great heart.

Thank you in advance.


Here is precisely the Queen Olga in 1921 surrounded by all her greeck and russian granddaughters :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Greeck%20royalty/olgaandprincesses-1.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Greeck%20royalty/olgaandgranddaughters-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: grandduchessella on January 17, 2008, 05:50:12 PM
Since the topic is Olga's granddaughters (and the present Queen of Spain would be great-granddaughter, Olga--Constantine--Paul--Sophie), I would presume the request was about Prince Philip's sister Sophie. If so, there's a thread on her with some photos.

Some threads to check for photos of the various granddaughters:



Princess Eugenie of Greece
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php/topic,1792.0.html

Princess Elizabeth of Greece (Toerring-Jettenbach)
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php/topic,4927.0.html



Queen Helen
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php/topic,1787.0.html

Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: royaltybuff on January 18, 2008, 07:10:28 PM
Does anyone know what kind of relationship, if any, Queen Olga had with her oldest granddaughter, Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna the Younger? I know that after Olga's daughter, Grand Duchess Alexandra, died and Grand Duke Paul remarried morganically, Maria and her brother Grand Duke Dmitri were raised by their uncle, Grand Duke Serge and his wife, Grand Duchess Elizabeth. Did Maria have much access to her Greek relatives. I know she was in Hesse-Darmstadt for the wedding of Prince Andrew to Princess Alice of Battenburg in 1903.
According to Maria, after Serge was assasinated, Elizabeth married her off to Prince Wilhelm of Sweden. What did Olga think of Maria's marriage?
Also, how did Maria feel about her mother's remains being moved from Russia to Greece?
Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: Svetabel on January 19, 2008, 04:44:55 AM
Does anyone know what kind of relationship, if any, Queen Olga had with her oldest granddaughter, Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna the Younger? I know that after Olga's daughter, Grand Duchess Alexandra, died and Grand Duke Paul remarried morganically, Maria and her brother Grand Duke Dmitri were raised by their uncle, Grand Duke Serge and his wife, Grand Duchess Elizabeth. Did Maria have much access to her Greek relatives. I know she was in Hesse-Darmstadt for the wedding of Prince Andrew to Princess Alice of Battenburg in 1903.
According to Maria, after Serge was assasinated, Elizabeth married her off to Prince Wilhelm of Sweden. What did Olga think of Maria's marriage?
Also, how did Maria feel about her mother's remains being moved from Russia to Greece?

Maria's Greek relatives were surprised and  irritated by her early marriage, seemed her Grandfather King Georg I was very upset. Queen Olga in her turn was a very sweet Grandmother and too kind a person to squall about the whole deal, so they were just upset that Maria married in an early age and without consulting with them on the subject.
Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: Prince_Christopher on January 21, 2008, 06:16:34 PM
Does anyone know what kind of relationship, if any, Queen Olga had with her oldest granddaughter, Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna the Younger? I know that after Olga's daughter, Grand Duchess Alexandra, died and Grand Duke Paul remarried morganically, Maria and her brother Grand Duke Dmitri were raised by their uncle, Grand Duke Serge and his wife, Grand Duchess Elizabeth. Did Maria have much access to her Greek relatives. I know she was in Hesse-Darmstadt for the wedding of Prince Andrew to Princess Alice of Battenburg in 1903.
According to Maria, after Serge was assasinated, Elizabeth married her off to Prince Wilhelm of Sweden. What did Olga think of Maria's marriage?
Also, how did Maria feel about her mother's remains being moved from Russia to Greece?

I don't think Maria Pavlovna had a very close relationship with her Greek relatives and I've often wondered why that is.  She talks little about them in her autobiographies although I believe she did interact with Olga and her great-grandmother somewhat in Russia.

Marie spent so much of her life sort of wandering, "lost", or detached from her family members.  The Greek RF was so different than the Russian one, and I think Marie would have found a strong sense of family, acceptance, and love among them had she chose to identify with them.

However, the many exiles of the Greek RF may have made this somewhat difficult....
Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: royaltybuff on January 21, 2008, 06:50:41 PM
I don't think Maria Pavlovna had a very close relationship with her Greek relatives and I've often wondered why that is.  She talks little about them in her autobiographies although I believe she did interact with Olga and her great-grandmother somewhat in Russia.

Marie spent so much of her life sort of wandering, "lost", or detached from her family members.  The Greek RF was so different than the Russian one, and I think Marie would have found a strong sense of family, acceptance, and love among them had she chose to identify with them.

However, the many exiles of the Greek RF may have made this somewhat difficult....
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Yes. Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna seemed to have such a sad life. She seemed emotionally detached from everyone - a prime example is her relationship (or lack of) with her son Prince Lennart of Sweden. It's no wonder. She grew up without her natural parents, was married off young and into a foreign country, and then the Russian Revolution resulted in the deaths of many other relatives or their exile.
did seem to have a strong bond with younger brother, Grand Duke Dmitri. Her uncle, Grand Duke Serge, seemed affectionate with the two - but again she lost him, too. it is very sad to not see in her a real connection with family and a wandering lifestyle. But I guess normal to one is abnormal to another.
Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: KarlandZita on February 02, 2008, 08:43:33 AM
The same twelve Princesses posing by rank in size :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Greeck%20royalty/twelve.jpg)
Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: grandduchessella on July 19, 2008, 11:52:27 AM
Elizabeth
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/greece/Untitled-2woolly.jpg)

Olga
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/greece/Untitled-1olga.jpg)

Irene

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/greece/Untitled-1irenegreece.jpg)
Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: KarlandZita on July 20, 2008, 09:10:22 AM
Elizabeth
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/greece/Untitled-2woolly.jpg)

Olga
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/greece/Untitled-1olga.jpg)

Irene

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/greece/Untitled-1irenegreece.jpg)

Very interesting photos of Elizabeth and olga of Greece ! It seems they come from old newspapers, is not it ?

But, on the last pic, what irene is it ?
Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: KarlandZita on October 26, 2008, 09:26:26 AM
From left to right, Princess Elisabeth of Greece with her cousins Princesses Helen and Irene of Greece :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Greeck%20royalty/elisaelenairina.jpg)
Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 26, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
It seems that Wooley (Elizabeth) was quite close to Helen and Irene, since I saw another set of photos of them with dog on the steps of some estate. I also know Helen was close to Wooley's sister Olga (of Yugoslavia). It seems that these Greek Princesses had a close knit network with each other...
Title: Re: Granddaughters of Queen Olga, their relationship and group-photos
Post by: KarlandZita on November 30, 2008, 08:46:16 AM
Greeck Royal cousins together : Princesses Helen, Irene, Margarita and Theodora of Greece :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Greeck%20royalty/grmanien.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Greeck%20royalty/romaniaandgreece.jpg)

The others are Princes Michel and Philippos, King Geoges II and Prince Paul of Greece.