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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Maria Nicholaievna => Topic started by: Sarushka on April 11, 2009, 01:29:13 PM
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New thread for photos of Maria...
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Wonderful idea
Sharing this sweety
Not rare just to start the thread
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/th_MariaandAnastasia002-1.png) (http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/MariaandAnastasia002-1.png)
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(http://thumb4.webshots.net/t/62/662/8/37/42/2467837420102268464jMOzIl_th.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2467837420102268464jMOzIl)
Maria in 1910
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Ah, that's a good one.
Fully agree....And there is one more from that day of them i will post sooner as i find it...but in bad quality :(
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Like these? I really like the photos from this day.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/Deck%20Photoshoots/th_OTMAAnaStandartu.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/Deck%20Photoshoots/?action=view¤t=OTMAAnaStandartu.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/Deck%20Photoshoots/th_100239364RL544859918.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/Deck%20Photoshoots/?action=view¤t=100239364RL544859918.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/Deck%20Photoshoots/th_maria640.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/Deck%20Photoshoots/?action=view¤t=maria640.jpg)
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One more from that day
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/th_Daughter45e.jpg) (http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/Daughter45e.jpg)
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Can somebody tell me who's the woman between Olga and Tatiana on the last photo Elly posted? I can't really tell, although she does seem very familiar to me...
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looks like Olga Alexandrovna(Nicholas' sister) to me.
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That's what I though as well. Comparing to this photo, it does look like Olga A. ->
(http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc331/Tina_1812/Romanovs/th_zzzz.jpg) (http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc331/Tina_1812/Romanovs/zzzz.jpg)
Edit: One more photo from the same day:
(http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc331/Tina_1812/Romanovs/th_OTMAsbabikouMari.jpg) (http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc331/Tina_1812/Romanovs/OTMAsbabikouMari.jpg)
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It really looks like Olga Alexandrovna.
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Yes, it's Olga Alexandrovna.
I believe these photos were taken aboard the Polar Star during a visit from King Edward VII and Queen Alexandra in 1908. Here's Maria with Toria:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Standart/th_mntoria1908.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Standart/?action=view¤t=mntoria1908.jpg)
(There are a couple photos of the king and queen with the IF in Prince Michael's book.)
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I believe these photos were taken aboard the Polar Star during a visit from King Edward VII and Queen Alexandra in 1908. Here's Maria with Toria:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Standart/th_mntoria1908.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Standart/?action=view¤t=mntoria1908.jpg)
I always thought this was on the Standart. But thanks for the picture - I had it smaller and in very bad quality.
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I always thought this was on the Standart. But thanks for the picture - I had it smaller and in very bad quality.
I honestly don't recognize the difference between the ships myself, but one of the photos in this series was labeled as "Polar Star" by Lanie, so I'm assuming the rest are as well. ;-)
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I always thought this was on the Standart. But thanks for the picture - I had it smaller and in very bad quality.
I honestly don't recognize the difference between the ships myself, but one of the photos in this series was labeled as "Polar Star" by Lanie, so I'm assuming the rest are as well. ;-)
Well, thanks for telling me. : )
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I think that one is with the same dresses but don't know is it that day
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/th_98-35.jpg) (http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/98-35.jpg)
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Polar Star -- Polarnaya Zvezda:
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Pisma%20i%20umetnost/th_PolyarnayaZvezda1888-1970.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Pisma%20i%20umetnost/?action=view¤t=PolyarnayaZvezda1888-1970.jpg)
Yacht Standart, Sebastopole, 1909:
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Pisma%20i%20umetnost/th_06007003.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Pisma%20i%20umetnost/?action=view¤t=06007003.jpg)
There are some differences. Look here (http://keu-ocr.narod.ru/Imp_yaht/).
Also, IMO, this is same day:
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Nikolaj%20II/th_e00584f78f9176bea8d207a728453fc8_im.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Nikolaj%20II/?action=view¤t=e00584f78f9176bea8d207a728453fc8_im.jpg)
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I think that one is with the same dresses but don't know is it that day
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/th_98-35.jpg) (http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/98-35.jpg)
I think it is one of Standart cabin of Nicholas II, not sure. ca. 1909. Nice photo!
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I was looking at pictures from that day- there are a few of the girls on deck. But it looks like there's a long ribbon on the front of their dresses that I can't see in the photos posted earlier. So I'm not sure if that's a picture from the same day or not.
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And to me Grand Duchess Anastasia and Maria looks older on the pic of them in the cabin.
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I've found out it's not same day...not same year at all.... this year or two taken later...just similiar dresses
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Are those two different?
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/th_334rf-2.jpg) (http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/334rf-2.jpg) (http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/th_agframe5.jpg) (http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/agframe5.jpg)
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I think they're the same -- the one in the frame has been straightened.
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Thank you Sarushka
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WOW! The pictures on the first thread! I've never really seen those before. They are really beautiful photos.
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Oh forgot to post that one:
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/th_PolarStar1908.jpg) (http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/PolarStar1908.jpg)
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Little Maria with two elder sisters, parents and other relatives, cca. 1901
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Family%20life/th_sdgwegw.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Family%20life/sdgwegw.jpg)
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Maria and her siblings (clearest version I´ve seen yet)
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/royalty/th_sfd.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/royalty/sfd.jpg)
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That one was taken in 1915. Thank you for that clearer version. Can be found in Alexandra's album. There is similar version of that one.
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Ah, yes! Thank you, Ally. It's much clearer and I think larger than what I previously had.
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Polar Star -- Polarnaya Zvezda:
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Pisma%20i%20umetnost/th_PolyarnayaZvezda1888-1970.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Pisma%20i%20umetnost/?action=view¤t=PolyarnayaZvezda1888-1970.jpg)
My apologies, thanks to Douglas who corrected me. It is 'Standart' Yacht too.
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Maria and her siblings
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/royalty/B862P6.jpg)
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Imperial family at Romania
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/marked/00164791.jpg)
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Fullest version I´ve seen
Maria 1914
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/marked/00907268.jpg)
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Thanks for these new ones, Ally!
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Really nice photos :-)
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Are those two different?
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/th_334rf-2.jpg) (http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/334rf-2.jpg) (http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/th_agframe5.jpg) (http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/agframe5.jpg)
isn't this Anastasia??
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No it's Maria
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No it's Maria
Definitely.
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Imperial family at Romania
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/marked/00164791.jpg)
A bigger one (a scan definitely) from the Rare Pics' thread 1. The problem is that Alexandra's face is swallowed up.
(http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/2673/romania1914.th.jpg) (http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=romania1914.jpg)
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Same session
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/th_95553.jpg) (http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/95553.jpg)
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Thank you very much for all the photos, they’re very interesting and of very good quality.
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(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6278/mariaanastasie.th.jpg) (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/mariaanastasie.jpg/)
White Flower Day...
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What does White Flower Day mean??
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Because of its climate, Yalta had many tuberculosis sanitoriums. On White Flower Day, the empress held a charity bazaar and the children collected donations on behalf of the ill. There are photos of the imperial family on White Flower Day in 1912 and 1914.
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And also, they gave 'Beli Tsvetok' (White Flower) to peasants. I often can't make difference between 1912 and 1914 photos. How about OTMAA video, around studs at Livadia. Was it shoot in 1912, or in 1914?
Thanks for detailed explanation, Sarushka. And I have heard for 1915 Beli tsvetok ceremony too.
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Most of the photos are from the first White Flower Festival. But you can tell the difference by Tatiana's hair, or their dresses:
In 1912 the girls' dresses all had had dark bows at the neck, and dark sashes:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Crimea/th_whiteflowerday1912_2.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Crimea/?action=view¤t=whiteflowerday1912_2.jpg)
Their underside of their hats also had a dark band along the outer edge of the brim, which framed their hair.
In 1914 their dresses had a V-neck, and only the Big Pair had the dark sashes:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Crimea/th_Livadia1914b.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Crimea/?action=view¤t=Livadia1914b.jpg)
The video footage of the children parading their flowers around the courtyard at Livadia was shot in 1912.
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Was Flower day in Spring?Because here is in Spring....
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Sarushka: Thank you very much for the information, and of course for the photos that
you posted, I've never heard of that day never before.
When is it celebrated? Is still celebrated?
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Well here in Bulgaria we celebrate it in April... but here is kind of different now... The people which wear names on flowers like my mother Kamelia they celebrate also and each year in the orphanage "Queen Ioanna" there are clothes and toys for the children like every Christmas and so on Flower day
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Sarushka: Thank you very much for the information, and of course for the photos that
you posted, I've never heard of that day never before.
When is it celebrated? Is still celebrated?
It was celebrated at Yalta, South Crimea, at Livadia Palace, during springs of 1912 and 1914, when IF visited Crimea. Is it still celebrated? I can't tell for sure, but I came across something like that, IMHO, it is more like one remembrance to tradition, like 'Charitable action' see:
http://news.allcrimea.net/photo/1210851991/?photo=1210852071
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Thanks for the information, is really nice to learn more about customs of other places!!
Irina: Your mom has a very beautiful name!! ;-)
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Thank you, Nena. It's interesting to see people contemporary with us celebrating in the Livadia courtyard.
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I'm not sure if this is the right thread to put this, but I can't find a painting thread..but here's a picture I found of Maria, painted in 1905 by Konstantin Egorovich Makovsky that might interest people here.
(http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/28241/2710282220102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2710282220102753164xaHCdj)
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What lovely painting, she looks really pretty with her doll!!
Thank you very much for posting it!!
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I didn't know that Maria had this color of hair, I knew that her hair was dark blond, but
perhaps it became darker when Maria became older... What do you think?
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I wonder if that's the sitting where her sister Olga told the painter exactly what she thought of him which made Margaretta Eager laugh?
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Maria's hair was probably only dark blond as a baby, and as she got older, it became darker, like you said. So I don't find that painting to be very realistic. :P
Romanov History Buff - I'm pretty sure it's not from the session that Ms. Eagar wrote about because she left in 1904, and the painting is supposed to be painted in 1905.
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Or perhaps is just a little bit idealised, many paintings of the past were idealised.
And perhaps this is not the exception
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If you take a look at nmaria´s pics from 1906 photoshoot, her hair seem almost blonde, so she may have been "lighter" back then.
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I wonder if that's the sitting where her sister Olga told the painter exactly what she thought of him which made Margaretta Eager laugh?
I think that was in 1899...
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If you take a look at nmaria´s pics from 1906 photoshoot, her hair seem almost blonde, so she may have been "lighter" back then.
And I forgot that also a pair of photos of baby Maria. she looks perhaps as blonde as in that painting
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Also lighting and angle can make a difference. From some angles my son's hair looks dark, but in the light it is a very light blonde.
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I'm not sure if this is the right thread to put this, but I can't find a painting thread..but here's a picture I found of Maria, painted in 1905 by Konstantin Egorovich Makovsky that might interest people here.
(http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/28241/2710282220102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2710282220102753164xaHCdj)
I was lurking on this thread few weeks ago, and then last week I went to St. Petersburg and visited the Winter Palace/Hermitage. Imagine my surprise at seeing this painting hanging on the wall! Without these posts, I wouldn't have even known it was her, so thanks so much for sharing, it made it all the more meaningful to see it in real life!
I plan to go back next week, so I'll try to take a photo of it! It's currently residing in the room next to the Library in the Winter Palace section of the Hermitage. It's sadly unmarked, so even more kudos to you for giving it a name and an artist! :)
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Maria with parents and sisters
(http://nd03.blog.cz/785/724/cdd0bc5745_55769894_o2.jpg)
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1902. "Российский Императорский Дом", альбом. 79 стр. (PDF). 2,1 Мб.
1902. "The Russian Imperial House", an album. 79 p. (PDF). 2,1 Mb.
http://pushkin.allfreehost.ru/index.php?option=com_booklibrary&task=view&id=1996&catid=106&Itemid=54
(http://i003.radikal.ru/0912/26/d652aafd498bt.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/i003.radikal.ru/0912/26/d652aafd498b.jpg.html) (http://s61.radikal.ru/i171/0912/65/ffa25f607f68t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s61.radikal.ru/i171/0912/65/ffa25f607f68.jpg.html)
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Maria looks lovely as a baby, but her clothes are a little bit exaggerated
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These were pretty common at the time, and even middle-class babies were dressed this way. If you read some good magazine from the time, you'll see many pics of babies wearing this kind of clothes.
RealAnastasia.
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Yes, I've seen a pair of them, but in boys it is even worse because they look like girls in the
majority of the times :-S
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(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/th_Picture1.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/Picture1.jpg)
In the Standart, 1914
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Thank you for that photo, I have always assumed about the place. And this one is much more clearer and fuller.
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From Hessisches Staatarchiv Darmstadt
Maria visiting Germany
(http://nd02.blog.cz/254/337/2d47d12e18_53869081_u.jpg)
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Holly what "two" last picture do me the one from today and the other from October 29th, 2009?
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Holly what "two" last picture do me the one from today and the other from October 29th, 2009?
Yes, the one from today and from October 29th -- the last ones she's posted here.
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I love the last two pictures you've posted, Ally.
Maria looks so much like Anastasia in the last one.
I agree with you, I thought that she was Anastasia when I saw it at first time!!!! When was this
pretty photo taken?
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I would say 1910, in Germany.
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(http://media.photobucket.com/image/maria+nikolaevna/MBG_39/mashka.jpg?o=10)
Poor Maria!
(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2009/158/2/6/Maria_Romanov_by_long_live_the_stupid.png)
This one looks like the photographer got her by surprise :D
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Actually I´m pretty convinced she posed for the picture willingly. There are more pics from the same day.
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Yes, she posed. She looks so cute in the ones from that day. I wonder if Anastasia was the photographer, she wasn't in the one of NOTM together on the settee.
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I know, she always looks so happy and surprised. I think the photographer was probably Anastasia.
Come to think of it, I'm not aware of very many photos taken by Alexei, or Maria (or and of his sisters, really). Does anybody know of one?
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Well, it's hard to tell who the photographer is for sure. Sometimes you can see the shadow of the photographer and guess who it is by who isn't in the picture but you can't be 100% certain. Each of the children had their own albums though. In some books it will say what pictures come from what album and who took them. One book that has a lot of pictures from Maria's album is Royal Russia.
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I know, she always looks so happy and surprised. I think the photographer was probably Anastasia.
Come to think of it, I'm not aware of very many photos taken by Alexei, or Maria (or and of his sisters, really). Does anybody know of one?
Actually, considering Maria is the least one photographed of the sisters, and because of some statements I think it´s fair to say that from OTMAA she was actually the one who took most of the pictures. I even read she was very interested in developing the pictures while in captivity. The three most active photographers in the family were Nicholas, Maria and Anastasia.
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Sorry, typo...I meant that I don't know of many photos taken by Alexei OF Maria...or of anyone else, really.
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Dont know that is this pic here or not, because lot of pictures were deleted:S
This is one of my facorites too ^^ The silly girls are playing ^^
http://media.photobucket.com/image/anastasia%20and%20maria/Bathorycat13333/rc22mt5.jpg?o=41
Does anyoe know when this picture made?
http://media.photobucket.com/image/anastasia%20and%20maria/linsay_18/Romanov/3_2.jpg?o=57
Think once I read that they have to shaved their hair cause of cooties(?) or something ill?
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The first one was coloured by Isabel I think.
The second one was taken in the spring 1917. Their heads were shaved off because their hair had been falling out due to some medicines they used when having measels.
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Oh thank you darling..I dont know that this is cause of the medicines:S
But this pictues was scary:S
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I lost the modify button:S Kyaaa:S
So here is a picture about OTMA in wimsuits...they all looks so cute ^^ Lil babyfat Maria and Anastasia:D
http://media.photobucket.com/image/anastasia%20and%20maria/OTMAAfan91/OTMA/18_2.jpg?o=185
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Imperial family at Romania
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/marked/00164791.jpg
A bigger one (a scan definitely) from the Rare Pics' thread 1. The problem is that Alexandra's face is swallowed up.
(http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/2673/romania1914.th.jpg) (http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=romania1914.jpg)
It isnt the same picture. Look at Mircea`s face
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I thought they are quite same...
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Doh, yes you re right., i confused it with another from the same sitting. Sorry! me bad!
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(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/4385417701_ae56ff1ec9_o.jpg)
Postcard of Maria in court dress.
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Sorry I don't understand Russian... what mean the first and second words that are on the postcard?
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Her Imperial Highness Grand Duchess
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My faves:
Maria and Tatiana:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/MariaTatianakittens.jpg/597px-MariaTatianakittens.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Mariaabout1910.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/GrandDuchessMarie1915.jpg)
(http://www.freewebs.com/tatianaromanova/BeautyTM4.jpg)
(http://www.freewebs.com/tatianaromanova/BeautyX27.jpg)
There, that was quite a few, although I have loads more favourites!
Emily x
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Imperial Presentation Egg, circa 1915. Porcelain cobalt blue egg is decorated with gilded cipher of Grand Duchess Maria Nikolaevna (1899-1918), the third daughter of Nicholas II. Height 2 1/2 in. (6,2 cm). Original ribbon. This type is missing from "Russian Imperial Porcelain Easter Eggs" by Tamara Kudriavtseva and Harold A. Whitbeck.
(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/th_MNegg2.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/MNegg2.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/th_MNegg1.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/MNegg1.jpg)
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Did only Maria "get" an egg? Whats about the other GD's and the Tsarevich...does anybody know?
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Did only Maria "get" an egg? Whats about the other GD's and the Tsarevich...does anybody know?
I'm certain OTMA and the empress all had presentation eggs made with their cyphers to give away. I would imagine the Tsarevich and the emperor had similar eggs as well, but I don't know that for a fact.
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Re Posts 125 and 127: I have seen several REPUTEDLY authentic eggs of the Emperor Nicholas II for sale, as well as one of the Heir. Needless to say, they were rather plain, bearing the crowned gold cyphers of these individuals, sometimes in cursive, but also in block letters. Obviously expensive. At the other end of the spectrum, I own modern full-sized porcelain REPRODUCTIONS of such eggs of the Empresses Alexandra F. and Marie F., as well as one of the Heir (perhaps also one of the Emperor Nicholas II, but I haven't looked recently). The quality ranges from very good to horrible, referencing the monograms (especially in the depiction of the Imperial Crown over the cypher). Still, they "fill a space." AP
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sorry about the quality
(http://i47.tinypic.com/287eo91.jpg)
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Oh KATENKA! Thank you! Wonderful find again!
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its rare? i had no idea, since i have the iomage of the well known picture of this same session.
Here another, i hope it isnt repeated. Baby Maria with Tatiana and Olga
(http://i47.tinypic.com/akwsv7.jpg)
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Katenka WONDERFUL RARE pictures!!! Thank you very much for posting them!! =)
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Yes, the Maria 1906 is rare, I´ve not seen this pose ever before. The second pic I´ve seen as an illustration. Is this an actual photo? Seems touched up... but beautiful anyway!
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looks like a picture, a retouched one tho.
I dont know how i got so many pictures of OTMAA lately and i dont even like them! but i love to share them with all of you!
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Happy to share!! However GD Ally informs me the photos are from the year 1911, not 1910
Sorry for the mistake! I really should have asked Ally frist! lol! Thanks Ally!
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bless OTMA one question =) How did you make the 1911 formal's faces bigger? I want to know it because I want to make a draw of the photograph of Maria from 1907 on the Polar Star, but to do it I need I really big size of her face =) thanks in advance
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bless OTMA one question =) How did you make the 1911 formal's faces bigger? I want to know it because I want to make a draw of the photograph of Maria from 1907 on the Polar Star, but to do it I need I really big size of her face =) thanks in advance
otmaprivatealbums I have a postcard of the picture and enlarged it with a scanner. The postcard was printed without the dots usually used with printed material...so I could make the card bigger without having the usual dots get bigger too. Hope that helps.
Basically the answer is : scanner
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It seems you have moved the pictures so it isn't able to be viewed.
Good Lord!! Here they are again. (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/OTMA%201911%20%20formal/th_Marie1.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/OTMA%201911%20%20formal/?action=view¤t=Marie1.jpg)(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/OTMA%201911%20%20formal/th_Marie-b.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/OTMA%201911%20%20formal/?action=view¤t=Marie-b.jpg)
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Maria
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/363/mariavevozevez1.jpg)
OTMA
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/403/86224400.jpg)
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Pretty photos cebi26, in the one of all OTMA... where are they?
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Can it be Finland?
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Maria and other people i cant identify
(http://i39.tinypic.com/1y0hs2.jpg)
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I don´t know the lady, but the girls are Tatiana and Olga.
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My favourite...this is the cutest one but gif..or video not pic ^^
http://iworshippatkaleta.deviantart.com/art/Little-Maria-on-Home-Video-157147664
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oh my lord, I so adore that little giggle and shoulder shrug when her hand is kissed. Utterly adorable .Thanks for posting!
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Wonderful...I can imagine how weird it must be for a little girl to be kissed on the hand by a stranger/older man :)
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Speaking of videos of Marie, if you watch closely about halfway through, Marie leans over to Tatiana and they exchange bouquets of flowers! I wonder why!
http://www.frozentears.org/Sasha/Real/Getty9.9.mov
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Good question; I'd never noticed that before. Perhaps their names were written on the bouquets and Maria was handed the one that had Tatiana's name on it?
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I thought maybe that too. But then I'm not sure how someone could mistake Maria for Tatiana! Especially since they were all in a line by age-order.
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Perhaps they were playing some kind of game?
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they could have been given the wrong ones and changed them?...are they different types of bouquets? I can't see the film. The big pair and little pair had to match! lol!
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they could have been given the wrong ones and changed them?...are they different types of bouquets? I can't see the film. The big pair and little pair had to match! lol!
I think you are right blessOTMA, indeed it could be a match thing, here is the link for the videos http://www.frozentears.org/Pages/Home.html and the video is the one in the bottom on the page if you want to check it out :)
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Thank you for the link! From what I can see, in moments, Maria notices her bouquet , has, we can guess ,Tatiana's name on it, because Maria immediately is amused and then speaks to her sister about it. Tatiana looks slightly annoyed and they exchange. It also seems to me it was a real jumble when they were given their bouquets and this could have cause the confusion , Maria's amusement and Tatiana's ( the governess) minor annoyance. Tatiana liked it when things went as they should, but the little pair found humor in any slip up ;-)
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...oh and I just noticed Anastasia checked the label on the bottom of her bouquet when she heard Marie speak to Tatiana.
But that was that...so it was hers. Thanks again for the link!
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Sorry I didn't realise my link doesn't work??
And I'm not sure that's what Anastasia's doing at all...I think she's looking down because she is afraid she's going to trip over the ribbons! ;-) Or perhaps it's both, I don't know. That clip is so interesting xD There's quite a lot going on and everytime you watch you notice something new. : D
But I think you are right about the names, they must have them on the ribbons...if you watch the men as they approach, one makes for Tatiana but realises someone has already given her flowers, so he then goes to Marie.
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Maybe it's the camera angle but to me it looks like Olga is trying to stay behind her Mother as the clip progresses.
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I checked it out! IT WAS a COOL experience !!
I agree with blessOTMA on reply #168 !!
There's one video of Alexei with Joy that when he looks at Joy, Joy moves his tail, hehe.
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There's one video of Alexei with Joy that when he looks at Joy, Joy moves his tail, hehe.
Forgive the offtopic-ness, but would you be so kind as to direct me to somewhere I could find this video?
Thank you!
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Okay, Tatianolishka!!!
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkMCBIVF5vA
Edit: Forgive the offtopic-ness too, FA!
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I really wanted to watch that (I found ait a long time ago and couldn't find it again) but it didn't work! :(
Maria in the Crimea
http://s985.photobucket.com/albums/ae339/ashka_2010/?action=view¤t=marianikolaevnacrimea1914-1.jpg
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Oh, here's another video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sILx94wT_zQ
I think that it starts at 0:41 hehe
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baby Marie...how cute is that? Not rare, but big.
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/art%20and%20romanovs/Marie/th_babymarie.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/art%20and%20romanovs/Marie/?action=view¤t=babymarie.jpg)
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They look like dolls xD
But are prettier and cuter than dolls ;-)
I wonder if Margaret Eagar had some more photos taken of them on that day.
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Here you can see that she was quite blonde as a baby...nice pic, thank you!
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(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/art%20and%20romanovs/Marie/th_babymarie.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/art%20and%20romanovs/Marie/?action=view¤t=babymarie.jpg)
And she had a gap even between her baby teeth :D ...funny, that it appeared again in the later teeth
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Sorry for the bad quality http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l220/Mashka99/pg11.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l220/Mashka99/2d47d12e18_53869081_u.jpg
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The first one was originally posted by Katenka into rare pictures, and I believe also into this one. The second one is from Hessisschess Staatarchiv Darmstadt and itshows the Grand Duchess visiting Germany in 1910.
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I love this picture (L-R: Alexei, Anastasia and Maria)! It gives me inspiration and a feeling of happiness! When was it taken?
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/angelicmaria/AA/MariesAlexejemaAnastzipihe.jpg)
Emily x
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1907 is my best guess.
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Baby Maria in Alexandra's arms (1899):
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/1899_M.jpg
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Cutie Maria
http://img504.imageshack.us/i/m4dv5.jpg/
Maria on the far right
http://theromanovfamilysite.webs.com/Family%20in%20snow%20at%20woods.jpg
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This cannot be new, or even rare, but it was to me and might be to others . I was startled recently when looking at this famous photo of Anastasia fooling around in The Family Album book. I suddenly saw what must be Marie asleep in her camp bed behind Anastasia. Pretty remarkable too see such an intimate and new to one's self view suddenly come into focus. Marie is so beautiful too of course. Looks like milk, small dishes and a spoon on her bed side table.(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/art%20and%20romanovs/impteeth.jpg)(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/art%20and%20romanovs/behindImp.jpg)
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Wow BlessOTMA! I've seen that photo hundreds of times before and have never noticed it! I wonder what Anastasia is clutching in her hand? Lol, your discovery makes one want to go back through all of my photos of the IF and see if I can spot any random members hidden in the background! Haha, it is the fourth picture I have of Maria asleep! I only have one of OTA though, and none of Alexei.
Emily x
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Wow BlessOTMA! I've seen that photo hundreds of times before and have never noticed it!
I believe because its usually cropped out! I wonder what Anastasia is clutching in her hand?
you mean the flowers? Lol, your discovery makes one want to go back through all of my photos of the IF and see if I can spot any random members hidden in the background! Haha, it is the fourth picture I have of Maria asleep! I only have one of OTA though, and none of Alexei.
Emily x
I have seen one of Alexei as a small child asleep in a chair on the Standart . So let me guess the four Marie asleep photos. This one, the hay stack, on Tatiana's hip and Olga's lap...there also the one at a hay stack with her father. Because Marie is asleep in the back ground, we can guess Anastasia got one of the maids or such to take the photo and that she's in her night gown herself, not a blouse. She's up against one of the screens they used to make separate spaces within the room.
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Wow BlessOTMA! I've seen that photo hundreds of times before and have never noticed it!
I believe because its usually cropped out!
I've never seen a cropped version -- but I still felt the same way the first time someone pointed Maria out. Anastasia's pose is so striking, you just never notice the background at all. Maria's been hiding in plain sight all along.
Because Marie is asleep in the back ground, we can guess Anastasia got one of the maids or such to take the photo and that she's in her night gown herself, not a blouse.
No, it's a blouse and dark skirt. She wears it in some of the lazaret-visiting photos.
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I've never seen a cropped version -- but I still felt the same way the first time someone pointed Maria out. Anastasia's pose is so striking, you just never notice the background at all. Maria's been hiding in plain sight all along.
When Marie finally swims into one's view, it's a shock! .... and that she's in her night gown herself, not a blouse. No, it's a blouse and dark skirt. She wears it in some of the lazaret-visiting photos.
Interesting. The cuff on A's blouse reminds me of the cuff on Marie's nightgown. But that ruffly cuff and collar seems to have been the fashion for both night and day wear.
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I can't tell if Maria is asleep or not there. Also, it looks like she might be covered with a blanket.
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Wow BlessOTMA! I've seen that photo hundreds of times before and have never noticed it!
I believe because its usually cropped out! I wonder what Anastasia is clutching in her hand?
you mean the flowers? Lol, your discovery makes one want to go back through all of my photos of the IF and see if I can spot any random members hidden in the background! Haha, it is the fourth picture I have of Maria asleep! I only have one of OTA though, and none of Alexei.
Emily x
I have seen one of Alexei as a small child asleep in a chair on the Standart . So let me guess the four Marie asleep photos. This one, the hay stack, on Tatiana's hip and Olga's lap...there also the one at a hay stack with her father. Because Marie is asleep in the back ground, we can guess Anastasia got one of the maids or such to take the photo and that she's in her night gown herself, not a blouse. She's up against one of the screens they used to make separate spaces within the room.
Yup, you've guessed them, so long as the one on the haystack has the rest of OTMA on it then you're right. Do you have the two other pictures that you've specified BlessOTMA? Lol, I wonder if Maria ever knew that she was in that photograph, but I agree that Anastasia steals the show!
Emily x
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I'm assuming this is one of them, though I don't know if a fuller version exists.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/During%20the%20War/th_scan004300.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/During%20the%20War/?action=view¤t=scan004300.jpg)
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it does
(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9985/2e4jfavqh1.jpg)
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Is there one of the big pair laying behind Alexandra?
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Wait, hang on! I just realised 'the one on Olga's lap' that I'm thinking of, is probably not the one that you are. Mine:
(http://livadia.org/mashka/images/om1910_1.jpg)
Emily x
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Indeed that's not it...I'll scan the Tatiana hip one today . Here's the on Olga's lap one I was thinking of...a great photo, imo.
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/art%20and%20romanovs/AOM.jpg)
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(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Standart/th_tatmarsleeping.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Standart/?action=view¤t=tatmarsleeping.jpg)
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Maria did a lot of sleeping, didn't she? I wonder who went round randomly photographing her when she was asleep? the man next to Maria is usually cropped out on the version of 'on Tatiana's hip' that I have:
(http://www.freewebs.com/tatianaromanova/BeautyTM4.jpg)
Emily x
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the man next to Maria is usually cropped out on the version of 'on Tatiana's hip'
He's Count Alexander Grabbe.
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of course super well known , but of good quality .
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/art%20and%20romanovs/Marie/mariecard.jpg)
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here a bit bigger and clearer
http://i45.tinypic.com/ixwcww.jpg
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Is this Maria doing the tree planting here?
(http://inlinethumb08.webshots.com/45831/2831546770102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2831546770102753164ORABEm)
thanks..
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Looks like Olga to me :-/
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Yes, it´s Olga. Her sisters stand behind her. Here is a close-up
http://nd01.jxs.cz/172/375/efc2127fa3_43354316_o2.jpg
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Cool photo and close-up!
Olga is with one pair of gloves on her hand! Like the other sister behind her! Maybe Nastya!
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Cool photo and close-up!Olga is with one pair of gloves on her hand! Like the other sister behind her! Maybe Nastya!
Olga planting (as cute as can be I might add,) Marie behind her and Nastya is next to Marie, looking down. Also the Tsar is behind the large gentlman in white cap and coat ...imo . Thanks for the close up!
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Simply a cropped and enlargerd image from one of the 1913 formals...but still nice
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/art%20and%20romanovs/Marie/mariegroup.jpg)
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(http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/7159/yoyo.png)
AOTMA !! And a man on the right xD
Maria is the nearest, so I posted it here! Look at her shoes! So cute xD
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AOTMA !! And a man on the right xD
Maria is the nearest, so I posted it here! Look at her shoes! So cute xD
The man on the right is Sablin. :)
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anyone have this bigger? TIA.
http://img61.imageshack.us/i/maa9gw.png/
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You can find the absolute full-sized one on Beinecke.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Water/Beaches/th_1001650.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Water/Beaches/?action=view¤t=1001650.jpg)
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Close-up of Maria in 1906:
http://img237.imageshack.us/i/maria1906.jpg/
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MAria, with Siblings and papa
(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/4967/063df717b9ce5xl.jpg) (http://img812.imageshack.us/i/063df717b9ce5xl.jpg/)
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Thank you! That looks like a 1912 ceremony to remember Borodino
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I thought so, but most likely it does not come from Borodino celebrations in August of 1912. According to the caption below, that one was taken during the tercentenary ceremonies on the trip to Kostroma/Yaroslavl in May of 1913. OTMA wore white hats with some white flowers during the Borodino ceremonies, and Aleksei wore his uniform:
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Ceremonije/th_porodica_borodino_augusst_1912.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Ceremonije/?action=view¤t=porodica_borodino_augusst_1912.jpg)
Though, I am agreed too. The photo rather seemed to me that it must have been taken in 1912.
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Thank you nena! ...I was wondering because in the photo the heir is being carried...and that usually means the 1913 ceremonies ...thank you again for the clarification :)
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Postcard of Maria in 1904:
(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5876/1904mashka.jpg) (http://img841.imageshack.us/i/1904mashka.jpg/)
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(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/4967/063df717b9ce5xl.jpg) (http://img812.imageshack.us/i/063df717b9ce5xl.jpg/)
This picture was taken in Rostov the 22 may 1913. They are hearing the bells. There were in Rostov special bells, they are hearing and someone is presenting to the Tsar the programm of this special concert.
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(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/th_1913bells.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/1913bells.jpg)
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(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/babymn.jpg)
baby Maria
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Ashanti thank you very very much!! =)
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My goodness! Where did you find it?
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Baby Maria
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6137/garf59.jpg)
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Howdy guys! Sorry I hasn't been on here for AGES, long story - I'll tell it another time! Has anyone got a picture that I found in a book called Great Mysteries of the 20th Century? It has the whole of NAOTMAA, and some others, and it is captioned as being taken in Sweden in 1909? I am guessing the others are Swedish relatives.
Yours BACK IN THE GAME!!!!!
Emily x
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Olgasha, are you sure this is Maria? It doesn't look like her to me... :-\
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GDV, it is Maria, the photo was taken between 1899-1900, Olga and Tatiana have their own portraits there in the same room, it's got to be Maria... just look at those eyes!
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..., it's got to be Maria... just look at those eyes!
lol! True!! ...plus the widow's peak !
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Has anyone got a picture that I found in a book called Great Mysteries of the 20th Century? It has the whole of NAOTMAA, and some others, and it is captioned as being taken in Sweden in 1909? I am guessing the others are Swedish relatives.
I'm guessing it's this one, but I only have half of it:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Abroad/th_familysweden1909.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Abroad/?action=view¤t=familysweden1909.jpg)
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Here's more of it, as well as one that's slightly different but of rotten quality.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/With%20Family/th_swedish.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/With%20Family/?action=view¤t=swedish.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/With%20Family/th_Bild38.gif) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/With%20Family/?action=view¤t=Bild38.gif)
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(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_lkjuy67890987.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=lkjuy67890987.jpg)
In this picture we can see Maria standing behind her family, next to the imperial train. This photo represent the arrival of Emperor Nicholas II and his family on the platform of the station at General Headquarters Mogilev May, 1916.
From Faberge, well known photo of Maria:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_2-Faberge-Guilloche-Enamel-.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=2-Faberge-Guilloche-Enamel-.jpg)
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The book I scanned this from say it's 1915. An officer is saying something to Nicholas..I love Marie's expression...
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/th_1915.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/1915.jpg)
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Much more probably Crimea May 1916, isn'it? There are other pictures of those days.
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Most likely...the book also said it was on the Stardart...which didn't seem right either. If it's 1916 it's amazing how younger Alexi looks when he puts back on a sailor suit rather than the army one he was mostly wearing at this time. Perhaps because his army uniform was modeled after the adult one
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Very nice! Which book does it come from?
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That one was indeed taken during the IF's visit to the South Crimea in May of 1916, exact place might be Sebastopol as well -- there is series of the photos, IF visited cruiser -- and I've got the full version. Right now I have no access to the photos, but hopefully I would be maybe able to post soon.
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That pic made me believe that the heir didn't exclusively wear the army uniform and that he wore a sailor suit during the war years. The pic is from ROMANOVS: LOVE POWER AND TRAGEDY.
:)
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Page 275 to be exact.
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That one was indeed taken during the IF's visit to the South Crimea in May of 1916, exact place might be Sebastopol as well -- there is series of the photos, IF visited cruiser --
Exactly nena, the book is The Romanos, Love, Power and Tradgy on page 275 . The caption says it was on the Standart, but it's far too big a ship to be that.
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/th_full1916.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/full1916.jpg)
As matushka mentioned there are photos of this time. I think this maybe one .
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/th_1916a.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/1916a.jpg)
Glad you liked it Sarushka
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That pic made me believe that the heir didn't exclusively wear the army uniform and that he wore a sailor suit during the war years.
Interesting. I wonder if Aleksei wore a sailor suit during the war years when he was *not* in the presence of sailors?
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It was the 12 May 1916. Other pictures:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/?action=view¤t=05Sebastopolfamillebateau.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/?action=view¤t=05Sebastopolfamillemarins.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/?action=view¤t=maiCrimeeSebastopol.jpg
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marvelous photos matushka and new to me. It's also interesting to note that for a brief time, Marie wore the same out fits as the Big Pair .
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Exactly nena, the book is The Romanos, Love, Power and Tradgy on page 275 . The caption says it was on the Standart, but it's far too big a ship to be that.
blessOTMA - you are right. It's not Shtandart. The photo is taken in Crimea in 1916 during WWI where Emperor visits one of the battle ships (Cruiser). I can see Duke and 1st rank Captain, Vladimir Trubetskoy (man with beard). That's why this is one of the 3rd Battalion of the Black Sea mine division ships.
That pic made me believe that the heir didn't exclusively wear the army uniform and that he wore a sailor suit during the war years.
Interesting. I wonder if Aleksei wore a sailor suit during the war years when he was *not* in the presence of sailors?
Sarah, it's very easy.
By the military and Court's etiquette Emperor and all his "svita" (or simply Court) should have been wear uniforms of the military units, which they visit. It was a good manners. Of course if it's a ceremonial meeting - ceremonial uniform. During WWI all the rules were simplified. But anyway, if Emperor's visit Stavka - he wear common military uniform (both soldier's and Officer's battledress), if different Navy units - common Navy uniform (different Black, White, summertypes), etc... All these things equally goes to Alexei.
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blessOTMA - you are right. It's not Shtandart. The photo is taken in Crimea in 1916 during WWI where Emperor visits one of the battle ships (Cruiser). I can see Duke and 1st rank Captain, Vladimir Trubetskoy (man with beard). That's why this is one of the 3rd Battalion of the Black Sea mine division ships.
Nicola; thank you for this very precise information. Sorry, could you specify which man on which picture is V. Trubetskoy?
According to the Tsar's diary the family visited 2 ships the 12th May: the "Empress Catherine the Great" and "Empress Marie". Next day, Nicolas visited 25 other ships, part only with Alexis, part with all the children! Next day, 14 of May, the entire family attented liturgy aboard the "Empress Mary". Perhaps the 2 big groups have been taken this day on this ship?
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Nicola; thank you for this very precise information. Sorry, could you specify which man on which picture is V. Trubetskoy?
According to the Tsar's diary the family visited 2 ships the 12th May: the "Empress Catherine the Great" and "Empress Marie". Next day, Nicolas visited 25 other ships, part only with Alexis, part with all the children! Next day, 14 of May, the entire family attented liturgy aboard the "Empress Mary". Perhaps the 2 big groups have been taken this day on this ship?
Matushka,
I've just noticed, that we can see 1st Rank Captain Duke Vladimir Trubetskoy (1868, Yalta - 1931, Paris) on several photos here;). Btw, you are right, it's more likely battleship "Empress Maria", at least on the photo you posted, because at that time (~1915-1916) Trubetskoy commanded this ship.
(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/6695/51192365.jpg) (http://img203.imageshack.us/i/51192365.jpg/)
(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/7587/38569327.jpg) (http://img594.imageshack.us/i/38569327.jpg/)
Here is a photo of this famous Naval Officer in better quality (taken in 1913).
(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/130/40699383.jpg) (http://img571.imageshack.us/i/40699383.jpg/)
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That pic made me believe that the heir didn't exclusively wear the army uniform and that he wore a sailor suit during the war years.
Interesting. I wonder if Aleksei wore a sailor suit during the war years when he was *not* in the presence of sailors?
Absolutely - remember the one photo of him with his sisters (OTMAA) from AF's album taken in 1916 in Tsarskoe/ or in Lazaret. (during the war).
It was the 12 May 1916. Other pictures:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/?action=view¤t=05Sebastopolfamillebateau.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/?action=view¤t=05Sebastopolfamillemarins.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/?action=view¤t=maiCrimeeSebastopol.jpg
Thank you Matushka, I meant exactly these ones.
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Baby Maria (sorry about how blurry is the image)
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6981/60233807.jpg) (http://img213.imageshack.us/i/60233807.jpg/)
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Are you sure? I think it's baby Anastasia.
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I think it's baby Anastasia too. I'm almost sure the photograph is the same, or at least, from the same session of this one: Anastasia in Alix's arms 1901:
(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8214/61901a3c.jpg) (http://img219.imageshack.us/i/61901a3c.jpg/)
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I thinks it’s Anastasia as well, imo the baby in the picture that Katenka posted is somehow similar to this picture of Anastasia as baby:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Anastasia/th_natsyababy.png) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Anastasia/?action=view¤t=natsyababy.png)
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Sorry, yes its her! i always confuse the younger sisters!
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There are known, but I was able to scan them larger
Marie on the Standart...Tatiana's profile is visible near in the foreground next to the woman with her back to the camera...also in the picture is the officer often mistaken for Dr. Botkin
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/th_TMs.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/TMs.jpg)
Lavardia....we can just see Anastasia standing next to Olga, (with ON's amazing full smile)
Marie, with a lovely smile herself. TN is giggling into her handkerchief and then there is Alexis and Alix
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/th_AOMTAAlavardia.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/AOMTAAlavardia.jpg)
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There are known, but I was able to scan them larger
BlessOTMA, thank you very much for all the wondeful scans you have posted here and in other OTMAA's thread! =)
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Wow, Annie. How did you even notice Tatiana's profile in that photo on the Standart?
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You are all most welcome. Like most Romanov enthusiasts, I love the photos and sharing them!...and I thank you all for your posted photos too!
Wow, Annie. How did you even notice Tatiana's profile in that photo on the Standart?
EmmyLee I think it comes from painting the family using photos. I'm use to visually scouring every inch....also making photos bigger helps of course. I'm just sorry I can't figure out who is the with her back turned. !lol!
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Maria and Anastasia:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_mashkanatsya.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=mashkanatsya.jpg)
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Smiling Maria in 1912. From rgakfd.ru =)
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9639/37470647.jpg) (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/37470647.jpg/)
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gorgeous...I wonder if the boy is one of Marie's Hesse cousins. That lady in the wheel chair...I have seen her before, being pushed by one of the girls around Lavardia's courtyard...I believe by one of the big pair. Nice! Thank you
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Could the woman be Sonia Orbeliani?
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Do you mean this picture Annie?:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Olga/th_lividia-olga_sonia.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Olga/?action=view¤t=lividia-olga_sonia.jpg)
It’s Sonia Orbeliani being pushed by Olga at Lividia, she was Alix friend. It could be her in that picture that larri posted, btw thanks larri for this picture it’s new to me. And the boy in the picture is definitely one of the Hessian boys.
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According to what the archives say, they appear Grand Duchess Maria Nikolaevna, Grand Duchess Eleonore of Hessen-Darmstdat (wife of Ernst) and a son of Ernst (I'm sure is Ludwig, the youngest).
The picture was taken in April (during Ernst and his family's visit to Crimea, in April-May), on the terrace of the Livadia Palace.
You're welcome everyone! =)
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Do you mean this picture Annie?:
Yes! Thank you! It’s Sonia Orbeliani being pushed by Olga at Lividia, she was Alix friend. It could be her in that picture that larri posted,
it would have to be btw thanks larri for this picture it’s new to me. And the boy in the picture is definitely one of the Hessian boys.
I thought so but his hair seems dark....however being in shadow can do that . Thank You both for photos and the information !
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Maria with Anastasia, Tatiana and Nicky:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th___natsya___mashka_nicky_tanya.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=__natsya___mashka_nicky_tanya.jpg)
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left to right : T, M, N, A ...imo...nice quality!
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I think it's Anastasia at the far left, but who knows...
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left to right : T, M, N, A ...imo...nice quality!
Correction:
Left to right: A,M, N, T
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left to right : T, M, N, A ...imo...nice quality!
Correction:Left to right: A,M, N, T
Let us agree to... disagree :)
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i say
From left to right:
Anastasia, Olga, Nicholas, Maria.
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100% from the left Anastasia, Maria, Nicholas, Tatiana.
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I’m still insisting; from left to right: A, M, N, T
The girl on the far left is no doubt Anastasia, She has Anastasia’s nose and expressions.(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/anastasia_croped2.jpg) (http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/anastasia_croped.jpg)
The girl on the right is definitely Tatiana to me (http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/tatiana_cropped.jpg)
What can create a confusion here is whether the second girl on the left is Maria or Olga. We know Out of OTMA, Olga and Maria were the sisters who resembled each other the most, but I’m pretty sure it’s Maria here (http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/maria_croped.jpg).
Btw I saw many times the girl on the far left being labeled as Olga, which for me it look nothing like Olga, imo Olga doesn’t appear in this photo.
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How confusing! at first glance i was sure it was Anastasia- Olga-Nicholas- Maria, but with the above post i changed my mind. Excellent. VOF!
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I still say from left to right: T, M, N A,....
The girl on the far left has TN 's nose and expression when her face is crunched up, like it is here to face the wind on the water ... that totally changes it . But also her nose does not have AN's point...while the face on the far right does have AN nose's point . I see a big difference between the face of the girl on the far left and the photo of AN you posted . The noses are totally different and those are TN's eyebrows.
I think the girl on the far right has AN's face and expression...
We agree on Marie and the Tsar :) Luckily he has a beard! lol!
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Annie dear, I’m very sorry if I disagree with you. Tatiana is the one on the right because she alone among the sisters, IMO, is the one who has a profile that resembles their mother’s closely.
This is one of the pictures where the resemblance between Anastasia and Tatiana is very obvious.
The quality of the picture contributed to our confusion here. Had it been clearer, it would be easier to tell who is who in the picture.
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I’m still insisting; from left to right: A, M, N, T
The girl on the far left is no doubt Anastasia, She has Anastasia’s nose and expressions.(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/anastasia_croped2.jpg) (http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/anastasia_croped.jpg)
The girl on the right is definitely Tatiana to me (http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/tatiana_cropped.jpg)
What can create a confusion here is whether the second girl on the left is Maria or Olga. We know Out of OTMA, Olga and Maria were the sisters who resembled each other the most, but I’m pretty sure it’s Maria here (http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/maria_croped.jpg).
Btw I saw many times the girl on the far left being labeled as Olga, which for me it look nothing like Olga, imo Olga doesn’t appear in this photo.
I definitively agree with you. i've always, as you, had troubles sometimes to recognize Olga and Maria... growing up they are more and more similar to each other, but ghere, I agree with you...
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At least we agree about something Annie :D I wish the picture was in better quality maybe then you will see my point view. You should also take what Grand Princess Shandroise said about TN is the one who has a profile that resembles Alix closely.
And Sunny you’re right it is hard to tell sometimes which is Olga and which is Maria. Here is a picture that can create confusion between the two.
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/th_92cfc18bafac.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/?action=view¤t=92cfc18bafac.jpg)
As you can see what is writing below it says the one standing next to Nicky is Olga and the one on the right side is Maria. No matter where I see this picture, they always label the girl next to Nicky as Olga, imo it’s Maria and the one on the right next to Tatiana is Olga. I know many here will disagree with me, but I’m pretty sure about it. Here I try to crop it (sorry the quality isn’t great to see my point of view): Maria is the one next to Nicky (http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/mariacroped.png) and it’s Olga on the right side next to Tatiana (http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/olgacropped.jpg)
I have the same picture in somehow different quality but the two girls on the right are cut it out from it, imo it’s clear the girl next to Nicholas is Maria:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/th_river1916.png) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/?action=view¤t=river1916.png)
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This debate comes up at least once a year. ; )
IMO: AMNT
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Smiling Maria with Nicky, Alix, Olga in 1912:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_nii_alix_olga_maria_1912.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=nii_alix_olga_maria_1912.jpg)
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This debate comes up at least once a year. ; )
IMO: AMNT
It is AMNT.
I thought people only debated on Tatiana looking like Olga here? Anastasia and Maria are quite obvious..
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IMO family left to right : A M N T O
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Annie dear, I’m very sorry if I disagree with you.
No problem GP Shandroise :) ...This is one of the pictures where the resemblance between Anastasia and Tatiana is very obvious.
Agree! (http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/anastasia_croped2.jpg) (http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/anastasia_croped.jpg)
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/TNandAN.jpg)
The quality of the picture contributed to our confusion here. Had it been clearer, it would be easier to tell who is who in the picture.
That would be lovely of course :)
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Whether the girl on the far left is Anastasia or Tatiana, I have problem with determining the exact time the photo was taken. I see, they were wearing the winter coats, so whether it was summer at Stavka, but the day was cold, or it was taken during the spring/autumn of 1916, when IF visited Nicholas. Or could it be perhaps sometime in late 1915, before Nicholas' departing to the front-line (on the north from Latvia, up to the Danube River on the south) ? I doubt. What does Mr. Grabbe say in his book on that photo?
Well, I also think that the girl on the left is Anastasia, and I must admit how alike the sisters were.
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Haven't they never visited Nicholas in Mogilev in another season...? Maybe i'm wrong (not maybe: certainly :D) but i remember there were more than one visit...
IF visited Nicholas at General-Headquarters in late August of 1915, at Baranovichi, afterwards Nicholas went visiting the Russian front-line. From May of the following 1916, when Alexei recovered from nose-bleeding, the Empress and the Grand-Duchesses made several visits during the spring, summer and autumn (remember the October 4th, when the IF without the Empress was filmed). Also, they had the tendency to spend the winter at Alexander Palace at Tsarskoe Selo. That is why I don't know when the photo was taken. I think it can be seen in Nicholas' 1915 diary, if the GD's made trips to Stavka in late 1915. (In winter season) . I think that the photo was taken in 1916, only the day was more windy, so they wore winter-coats. I still don't know is there any label on that photo in any book.
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I also think the picture was taken in 1916.
There are many pictures of IF visiting the hospital, that why I’m not sure if this has being posted yet (sorry if it is), Maria with her mother and sisters during a hospital visit 1915
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/hospital1915.jpg)
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I think that the photo was taken in 1916, only the day was more windy, so they wore winter-coats. I still don't know is there any label on that photo in any book.
Nena, the picture matches well with the annotation of Nicolas II in his diary for friday 7th October 1916: "Аликс приехала к завтраку и отправилась с нами вверх по Днепру. Вода очень поднялась" (could you translate it please?). Or the day before: "В 2 1/2 отправился с детьми к арх [иерейскому] лесу, прошли через него, переправились через Днепр и погуляли."
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Thank you matushka, endlessly, for the diary extract and for taking your time -- I begin being more and more convinced that the photo was taken sometime in the autumn of 1916 (simply their winter-clothes reflect the cold climate in the background). Here is the rough translation : ''Alix came to the breakfast and then she went with us to the Dnieper, which is 'risen' (River's level was higher than usual).'' (I would say, to the River's coast Alix went with Nicholas and the rest.). '' At 2.30 p.m. I went to the forest (?) across the Dnieper and we walked. '' . So there is possibility that the photo was taken at this mentioned date.
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Would Alix and The Big Pair be in uniform if they were visiting a hospital besides their own? Quite possibly if this was at Catherine Palace...or the "big hospital" . The marble columns seem to suggest it . Of course fellow whose head is highest in the photo voyageroffreedom posted is Marie's Nicholas Demenkov,( as in calling herself " Mrs Demenkov" ) in this photo his is the third face on the right and is in profile. My photo file says 1915...but I defer to those who know more about it.
....(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/th_1915-1.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/1915-1.jpg)
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Of course fellow whose head is highest in the photo voyageroffreedom posted is Marie's Nicholas Demenkov,( as in calling herself " Mrs Demenkov" ) in this photo his is the third face on the right and is in profile. My photo file says 1915...but I defer to those who know more about it.
....(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/th_1915-1.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/1915-1.jpg)
BlessOTMA, thanks for posting it in better quality.
Btw, I've just noticed that Mr Nicholay Demenkov gaze on this picture is directed exactly on Maria's shining face;). Maybe it's just a coincidence.
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Which one is Demenkov, exactly? And is Dmitri Chack-Baghov (sp?) nearby too?
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Demenkov is the face between the two big moustaches on the right side;)
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Still rather confused! :-[ There are so many moustaches! ::)
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Which one is Demenkov, exactly? And is Dmitri Chack-Baghov (sp?) nearby too?
Here is Demenkov from the picture I have posted (http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/nicdim2.jpg) and here is Demenkov from the picture that Blessotma have posted (http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/nicdim.jpg)
I don’t think Dmitri Chack-Baghov is in the picture, I have a picture of him with Olga and Tatiana and other officers (http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/c7b1473ee795.jpg) here a close up of him (http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/dimitri-cb.jpg)
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More photos of Dmitri Shakh-Bagov ..." the golden one"
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6953/shah2h.jpg) (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/shah2h.jpg/) (http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/shah2h.jpg/1/w650.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img41/shah2h.jpg/1/)
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1761/shah1.jpg) (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/shah1.jpg/)
These photos were kindly supplied by forum member Nicolá De Valerón and first posted on Olga's crushes thread
here is another of Demenkov greeting the girls during a hospital visit. Ally figured out Marie was being hidden by the large older man!
One can just see her hat ...(and what fashionable hats! ) I think in Demenkov, Maria finally met someone she couldn't lift off the ground! lol! Somewhere in my files is a close up of Demenkov...I'll post it when I run across it . Really none of these show him to full advantage imo
(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2086/dem2.jpg) (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/dem2.jpg/) (http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/dem2.jpg/1/w700.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img691/dem2.jpg/1/)
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Ooh, I absolutely love their hats!
I knew you would! lol!
Perhaps I'll post it on my fashion site! Excellent example of WWI mode! :D
I think you should . I think it's would be amazing to many OTM wore hats that would be fashionable for a good many years after their passing. One is use to thinking of them in the big brimmed hats. Here's the close up of Nicholas Demenkov . He is the one behind Tatiana without a beard. This is voyageroffreedom's photo..but it's the one I was looking for. It was offered on eBay earlier this year. Thanks VOF!
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/th_1916ta.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Tatiana/?action=view¤t=1916ta.jpg)
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Perhaps I'll do a series of "Fashionable OTMA hats" posts on the blog! Along with those and the strange close-fitting white ones that have the feathers sticking straight up at front, I can already think of several more; this one for example: http://www.livadia.org/mashka/images/mashka1915_4.jpg Do you know of any more? Ah! These:
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2277/aotma1913.th.jpg) (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/aotma1913.jpg/)
Where are they at, anyways? That big metal thing...very odd. Looks like an oil drill place! ??? Year, anyone? I have it labeled as 1913, but I know that must be wrong. I'm thinking more 1915...
Anyways, we'd better stay on topic! Post anoter Maria photo! :D
P.S. great clear hospital photo, blessOTMA!
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I've always assumed they're on board ship, but I don't know for certain.
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Grand Duchess Andrea you can find the picture that you have posted in reply # 260 in Beinecke Albums unmarked and better quality http://brbl-images.library.yale.edu/ROMANOVIMG/size4/D0117/1000430.jpg.
I think I have the picture of Maria that you have posted in the same reply in a better size, I will post it here once I upload it in my photobucket account.
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More photos of Dmitri Shakh-Bagov ..." the golden one"
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6953/shah2h.jpg) (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/shah2h.jpg/) (http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/shah2h.jpg/1/w650.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img41/shah2h.jpg/1/)
Sorry, I am not sure this man is Shakh-Bagov, he doesn't look like the thin young shy man of the other pictures Nicola and Antonina posted. Or am I mistaken?
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Here it is bigger, for better result right click on the picture then choose open in new window
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/Maria_-_hat_-_1914-5.jpg)
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I've always assumed they're on board ship, but I don't know for certain.
Looks like a ship indeed, here's (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/05sebastopolfamillemari.jpg/) another picture from that day.
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But matushka you have a good point and I must say the difference in the hair lines between the two photos makes me wonder .
(The gentleman sitting down in uniform parts his hair more in the middle. People do not change that too much ) ..also I wish to say Nicola pointed out that this photo is reversed because the decoration is on the wrong side of his tunic....Russian medals were worn on the left side...this is a great way to check if photos are correct
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Perhaps I'll do a series of "Fashionable OTMA hats" posts on the blog! Along with those and the strange close-fitting white ones that have the feathers sticking straight up at front, I can already think of several more; this one for example: http://www.livadia.org/mashka/images/mashka1915_4.jpg Do you know of any more? Ah! These:
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2277/aotma1913.th.jpg) (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/aotma1913.jpg/)
Where are they at, anyways? That big metal thing...very odd. Looks like an oil drill place! ??? Year, anyone? I have it labeled as 1913, but I know that must be wrong. I'm thinking more 1915...
Anyways, we'd better stay on topic! Post anoter Maria photo! :D
P.S. great clear hospital photo, blessOTMA!
It was taken on one of their trips to the South Crimea/Sevastopol, in 1915 or 1916, I am nit certain, Nicholas visited in in both 1915 and 1916. I assume it is cruiser 'Empress Marie', which Alexei once hit. But certainly it was taken on the ship, during one of the war-visits to the Crimea.
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Which Alexei once hit? Huh? He bumped himself on it, you mean, or did he actually hit it with something?
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I think they're referring to the story of Aleksey ordering the ship to fire on his grandma's yacht because it was far away and could have been a war ship.
But I thought that story was just a myth.
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Father and daughter share a smoke!
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_MNNAshareasmoke.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/MNNAshareasmoke.jpg)
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Thanks Annie this is the biggest size for the whole picture I’ve seen, here a close up for it:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_mashka_nicky_smoking.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=mashka_nicky_smoking.jpg)
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Thanks Annie this is the biggest size for the whole picture I’ve seen, here a close up for it:
Nice...I sometimes think Nicholas didn't like photo of him to be taken at the moment of inhaling ...they are so rare and he looks a bit annoyed here! lol! It's interesting that Marie is holding her cigarette with her left hand....she was right handed, but she also drew her art work with her left hand .
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Does someone know when was the photo taken? I've labelled it as 1917, but it looks more like 1916 to me.
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I agree with 1916...if this photo taken in such mild weather in 1917, it would have to be taken in captivity... Diffidently it's from a visit to HQ in 1916. imo. There's a group from that time and even another of Nicholas and Marie in a boat
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bOTMA's right -- that photo is from Count Grabbe's book. None of the photos in the count's personal collection are from captivity.
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Thank you Sarushka , it is from the Count Grabbe book...here I was wracking my brain about the year when I could have just looked at the book ! Here's another from the book...but what is interesting is in the book and on the cover this photo is used, but it's printed " flipped". I only know that because Nicola pointed out Russian medals are worn on the left side...and in the photo as printed, they are on the right. Here is the photo" flipped" back and correct . Mogilev 1916
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_mogilev1916.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/mogilev1916.jpg)
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Thanks BlessOTMA, Count Grabbe took the pic with an "apparatus" he's holding in his hand. In modern times, the timer of your camera. :)
I think the Grand Duchess Olga came back from a walk because she's not wearing her sweater and the little pair were wearing theirs.
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Condecontessa ,I guess it had a wire to connect it with the camera, and he pressed this apparatus" to release the shutter. That's an interesting point about Olga. She maybe sitting on her coat too. In the book the caption speaks about Olga, saying she seemed depressed here. She does seem mentally elsewhere as everyone else looks into the camera...but when the photo is printed correctly, and not "flipped" , Olga at least looks like herself! However I have to say none of the girls look cheery here. Marie is doing her brave smile.
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However I have to say none of the girls look cheery here. Marie is doing her brave smile.
It could also be her sun-in-the-eyes smile...
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Same day as the previous two pictures in reply # 260, and reply #267?
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/withnickyonaboat.jpg)
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I think it is taken in the same day, there are few other pics taken at that day if i remember correctly.
The little pair:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_scan01.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=scan01.jpg)
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(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/mercy.jpg)
It's interesting to group photos by the small pair's out fits...for while they were at the hospital often, how often was a professional photographer there to snap their picture? ... as seen in the mirror behind Marie ( probably more than I imagine! lol! ) and such photos could be from the same day.
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Weird, I’ve never notice that man in the mirror before!
Here is the full picture:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_hospital.png) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=hospital.png)
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It's interesting to see them looking at him and via the mirror, he looking at them!...I wonder if he was a court photographer and could be identified? It would be interesting if some of the same patients appeared in each photo containing the Little Pair that you recently posted.Thanks for this full photo. =) At this time, between their public lives and their private photo taking , the Romanovs were likely the most photographed people on earth!
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He almost doesn't look like a photographer though... he's wearing similar robes to the other patients. Of course, if he was another patient, I don't know why they wouldn't have put him in the picture as well...
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Yes, he is wearing a robe like the patients, so I highly doubt he is a photographer. Unless, of course, Imperial Photographers wore robes in 1915! :D But really, I think that he probably just got in there by accident.
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I love Maria's smile here:
(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6734/11907otmaacatherinepala.jpg) (http://img141.imageshack.us/i/11907otmaacatherinepala.jpg/)
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Oh, me too! She is so cute! How old would she have been there? Eight?
This one is simply lovely:
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7460/plantingtreesedited1.jpg) Cropped from the Imperial Family planting trees around 1911. The only decent part of an otherwise very blurred photograph!
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per request: Marie close up 1911
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_MN11.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/MN11.jpg)
Also a later photo of the Tsar, Tatiana, the Empress , Alexis and Maria next to the Imperial train
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_ntaam.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/ntaam.jpg)
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I've never seen the last picture so big before, thank you Annie.
Same day as reply # 132:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/n9876543456.jpg)
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You are welcome. I was pleasantly surprised how well it turned out. With printed photos, one never knows. Here is a moment after your photo ( I'm guessing) . In your photo, Olga seems to be yelling about something. In this one, her great uncle has turned to speak to her and is rewarded with one of her sweet smiles. A pictorial illustration of those words that describe Olga to be hot tempered, but easily placated =)
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/th_otmaandgreatuncle.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/otmaandgreatuncle.jpg)
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Wow -- thanks, Annie!! It's been ages since I've come across a new photograph around here!
It almost looks as if the man is touching Tatiana's face by the way it's composed.
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It was a postcard on eBay! One just never knows
This one would work in the photos of Romanovs in photos of Romanovs thread as the 1913 family portrait is above Marie's head
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_littlepair.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/littlepair.jpg)
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For the first time I see a big scan for the last picture, thank you Annie.
A better quality for the picture in reply #285
[img]http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/n975457.jpg[/img
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The link i posted isn't working so here it is (save it and will be in nice size)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/n975457.jpg)
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Thanks! I finally rememberd who the gentlman is. It's Nicky's uncle, Grand Duke Vladimir Alexandrovich.
I can't tell if Alexis is in awe of his great uncle or his yelling sister! lol!
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_olgayelling.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/olgayelling.jpg)
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Time for a nice, big, Marie photo =)
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_sailormarie.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/sailormarie.jpg)
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A cropping from a formal picture:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_mariaformal.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=mariaformal.jpg)
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With Anastasia:
(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OAAAAJYtl_-Y2tfVAN2FG1r1EuXAL-jWYDpCy1U_BFJhxRsG5mk6NmPDp7CG-vTrxkjPSsEWkgA-jj4hMglhY8sPZrAAm1T1UAx_7bWOrBoIdOZPVbtvesVVAZnp.jpg)
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Cropped of Maria from 1904:
(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/6460/1904maria.jpg) (http://img844.imageshack.us/i/1904maria.jpg/)
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What is Anastasia holding in that picture? It looks like a flute or something, lol.
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What is Anastasia holding in that picture? It looks like a flute or something, lol.
I've always assumed it was a recorder.
It's from the Yale Beinecke albums.
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I've never seen the one in which Maria is along with Anastasia. Totally new for me!
RealAnastasia.
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What is Anastasia holding in that picture? It looks like a flute or something, lol.
I've always assumed it was a recorder.
It's from the Yale Beinecke albums.
I don't know. I don't think it looks like a recorder in the other picture taken either just before or after that photo. It looks flat and too wide to be a recorder. Almost like a ruler or who knows, maybe a closed fan?
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/Deck%20Photoshoots/th_1001082.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Standart/Deck%20Photoshoots/?action=view¤t=1001082.jpg)
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A cropping from a formal picture:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_0000987567.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=0000987567.jpg)
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I don't know. I don't think it looks like a recorder in the other picture taken either just before or after that photo. It looks flat and too wide to be a recorder. Almost like a ruler or who knows, maybe a closed fan?
It doesn't even look like the same object in the other picture. It looks one color, and flat, as you said. In the first picture she's holding it as if it were some kind of a recorder and you can see the stripes/grooves. Very strange. Perhaps will never figure it out!
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(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAMOE_GhnZnCUoLy4d5xsekXFRrDjwai074LwhSpZMhGgkIi9cPUMweJk_6pDnjBUgdHqeUNtvONMlQCYLFBhWJMAm1T1UGtQqt5e0c7rzaX6O1EmJLZ371BM.jpg)
(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OQAAAN-zRq-4gfNhJMfFZ1SqQmr17eCYD8k0VS6uIA3o4unoWNrrmuMdgequ9G7Jzj3AqEYVnA2H1V_s2yegVjYZrLAAm1T1UFCxlN8Fy48oCEjMsVhcqwxEDiyy.jpg)
(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAKFEMo_9zPzSNHIgjsty_bBKXUd6C0wSXcmIagVENXLs4PBjlCepZI8IiYVBagMv-PiIU8nOP1rdg0g-BiH7ylYAm1T1UIuPGUnAI5Wj0zSk2h0Xv6WLctjA.jpg)
With her hessian cousin:
(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OQAAAIzrwDYjOv0fEmPo3otCDXOcI3lkYaAwwSVXJp7SGpqeWh7gLyabLtezu0UEVlPp8OREw0SW-mmwXbsoZz1cDL8Am1T1UIYdUcaIiditt8GBxF23Ovz0QNAS.jpg)
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(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Zoomed%20Crops/th_moclose.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Zoomed%20Crops/?action=view¤t=moclose.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Zoomed%20Crops/th_mhamclose.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Zoomed%20Crops/?action=view¤t=mhamclose.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Zoomed%20Crops/th_agirlsclose.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Zoomed%20Crops/?action=view¤t=agirlsclose.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Zoomed%20Crops/th_mariaclose13.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Zoomed%20Crops/?action=view¤t=mariaclose13.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Zoomed%20Crops/th_maclose.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Zoomed%20Crops/?action=view¤t=maclose.jpg)
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As I've seen previously, when zoomed and cropped, some pics seems to be different from the original one we all knew! These last ones of Maria confirms the idea that she really was a beatiful girl.
RealAnastasia.
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Some close ups for Maria:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/vof11.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/vof866.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/vof13.jpg)
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(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_AFlittlepair.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/AFlittlepair.jpg)(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_AFMarie.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/AFMarie.jpg)
Alix with the Little Pair....new to me, it maybe to others
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They seems very similar to ones I've already seen at Beinecke's, but I'm sure the ones you've posted are different. They are new for me. Thanks for posting them!
RealAnastasia.
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The pictures come from Beinecke Albums here are the links:
http://brbl-images.library.yale.edu/ROMANOVIMG/size4/D0071/1001048.jpg
http://brbl-images.library.yale.edu/ROMANOVIMG/size4/D0071/1001049.jpg
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I believe taken at Ropsha.
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Some close ups:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/vof22.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_vof23.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=vof23.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_vof24.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=vof24.jpg)
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(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAACWvqbgtYs-KarWYNOrv9VfJuSd0i8z1LtCO1v6cZ7nTZVQ7hZjOM7Xc1b-0VjLxQ0peDbmXpF-mezZ_sPasP9oAm1T1UEBs5ynhej0RDlsdGZS6D1vtj6kt.jpg)
(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAADnfsOmwptK7cLttWWfghlT5U8HobLNqDlzd8jF3S-reXyBRcp8SFMdo54YGmHmKTvIzM-l6GBlke4ieLTNpNlYAm1T1UHAmKrGDje6LkNBU3yEoWoG7KO6L.jpg)
(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAPGFvUZDTcl7yMi8MM6cMs9v_l1pvxeVIFei9cekDE_ZtHC9npDMtnPXe3C7XiLGVlgl6HHcabkCyoX7j5GILZEAm1T1UPbY8YkG3HB-IFYzgXJYsXWyNqgV.jpg)
The quality in this one is really bad, but here it goes anyway! :)
(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OQAAABO0OmYDY9VRKj-Rs0qo4LKORIh_yY9gixryOr2jzwJ6nlfg5EDHSFhyw1Nk3oSifUGCrfsejZt9OUh19YiFVm8Am1T1UA8DsufBrqz4-FlB52yPQ7OAEmLa.jpg)
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Some close ups:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/00054007.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/m9876t.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/m000840020.jpg)
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Alix with AOM . I believe the white lines on the girls tunics are to pocketwatchs
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_AOMgap.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/AOMgap.jpg)
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Annie thank you so much, the last picture is new for me.
Some close ups:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/m98ytr.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/m9876trg.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/00124007.jpg)
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Alix with AOM . I believe the white lines on the girls tunics are to pocketwatchs
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_AOMgap.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/AOMgap.jpg)
BlessOTMA the picture is new for me, thank you very much for posting it! I suppose it's a scan from Sablin's book =) Do you know when was it taken?
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Alix with AOM . I believe the white lines on the girls tunics are to pocketwatchs
I'd say they were to whistles. The line is called a lanyard (sp?) and was a standard part of sailor suit design, along (unless I've completely misremembered) with the whistle on the end - these aren't Russian suits, which have no tie, but look rather as if bought off the shelf in a kid's shop! Only Alexei later wore genuine miniature Russian suits.
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Some close ups:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/m9876trg.jpg)
I believe that this is Olga not Maria
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I believe that this is Olga not Maria
I agree, at least I think so! O and M both look so similar, and the photo is so fuzzy... :-\
I love her dresses in the last two close-ups! ;D
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BlessOTMA the picture is new for me, thank you very much for posting it! I suppose it's a scan from Sablin's book =)
Yes. One can almost see the Russian print from the other side of the page! The paper is thin and the photos grainy...it's amazing I'm able to get them as nice as they are! lol! Janet , I believe you are right...it would make sense they had whistles... Do you know when was it taken?
The book says 1906. I should have posted that. Thanks for asking . Indeed Martin 22, I could have posted this photo in Olga's or Anastasia's photo thread...( I believe the Imp's front teeth are missing!) ...but Marie has the driftwood and so got the photo! I also believe that close up is Olga. I have seen a nicer copy, plus her hair....Marie's would not be pulled back so at that time . imo
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I believe the Imp's front teeth are missing!
I think you are right! Darling!
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8315/1907flathat.png) (http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/1451/1904cute.png) (sorry for the small size of the second one!)
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More close-ups: :)
(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAABGn3bTJsUDYSOjaFGosjDcVzyi8qJgYYdEtJir3Z43jNq76VOEXbDXzC3kpgytoqjIohcIdcXpoN9bK1nR05GwAm1T1UE-cBmIygjxrk7-7NIb3KckJaQkp.jpg)
(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAEREA8ZfJVPTuxChEetpLKJkLrTRiNoB8bb3DXoCEo9zM3onHMFlSxM5NQ6znExBpKzkGlRNmzxSMYHk5yXwrzkAm1T1UBRBD0zMnhQd1LjauZBEhEVDtk48.jpg)
(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAP4GWOMOkpYoWKagMGtx2bCRPyDhgfW_FeIROnDL4d-AVW01Yxm6Y_zDIn6EhYW9xpzsBahMDMMXNrx-qpiuQckAm1T1UPwI-oGI4p3FWsy_AvCntGYei1o_.jpg)
(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAPLP5SYgwYQrcHAypR50umIuNLnHM6xrUVrlPI1bsJcrrJF75oLUeaKiOvvR8TLYvPpc2nWHy8H3bR-HwesOqfEAm1T1UGdFwUvmEQ5Nai19c2X6lA7DOz95.jpg)
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That profile one is particularly striking...Lovely...What's it cropped from?
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That profile one is particularly striking...Lovely...What's it cropped from?
If you mean the 2nd one, that is from a photo of Marie and Olga where Olga is coming aboard the Standart... her hair up and fuzzy! looks like the humidity got to it that day . It might be fun to guess from which photos the crops are coming from lol! Most I know , some I don't !
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I apologize for my mistake in reply #317, I sometimes I find it hard to tell Olga and Maria apart. Here is the full picture: http://brbl-images.library.yale.edu/ROMANOVIMG/size4/D0163/1002170.jpg
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(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAP4GWOMOkpYoWKagMGtx2bCRPyDhgfW_FeIROnDL4d-AVW01Yxm6Y_zDIn6EhYW9xpzsBahMDMMXNrx-qpiuQckAm1T1UPwI-oGI4p3FWsy_AvCntGYei1o_.jpg)
She looks so beautiful here. Do you've got the full pic?
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Here is the full picture:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/ris12.jpg)
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Some close ups (Thank you Annie for posting the original picture for the first crop):
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/littlepair-m.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/m7665.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/m9874.jpg)
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Photograph of Baby Maria. Probably it is posted, but I have never seen it in so clear. (It's one of my favourite photos of Maria) =)
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/6313/1899marie.jpg) (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/1899marie.jpg/)
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More cropped ones...What do you think about these?
(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6941/mariatobolsk.jpg)
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7795/tatianaandmaria.jpg)
(In the last one, Maria is with Tatiana)
RealAnastasia.
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(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/th_mariewoods.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/mariewoods.jpg)
love the one with TN and the cossacks =)...the other one right after she was so ill, I always found scary. I think somehow the sun light bleached out part of her neck and ears or something .
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Thanks for posting this cropping, BlessOtma...Maria's face has an unique expression there. Every time I would see this photo in its complete version, I noticed that Maria had a face as if she was bored. Now, that the photo is fouced on her and zoomed, it rather looks as if she was more sleepy than bored.
RealAnastasia.
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Close ups:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/1001055m.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/00234009m.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/vof12.jpg)
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Thanks for posting this cropping, BlessOtma...Maria's face has an unique expression there. Every time I would see this photo in its complete version, I noticed that Maria had a face as if she was bored. Now, that the photo is focused on her and zoomed, it rather looks as if she was more sleepy than bored.RealAnastasia.
she sort of looks unhappy too . As if she was about to pout
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Yes, BlessOtma...It's true! Hahaha..
As for the first photo posted by Voyageroffreedom, Maria looks VERY similar to OLga when she was the same age!
RealAnastasia.
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Maria at Livadia:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/livadia.jpg)
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Beautiful and new to me!! Thank you. Looks like Anastasia , Olga, officers, Maria, Alix , Trina and countess H .
We get an unusual view of the back of what seems to be lace outer garments they wore while there . The hem of their actual dresses goes longer than these garments . Looking at AN and ON, the top is a type of tunic. These can be seen clearly in the famous close up photo of Maria and Olga taken around this time . Very pretty...and reminds me of how they dressed when younger....silk pastel under dresses covered with a dress of lace
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Olga, Tatiana and Maria in 1901. I love Maria's huffy face in this photograph. I feel like pinching her chubby cheek =)
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9831/1901levitsky.jpg) (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/1901levitsky.jpg/)
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Oh I love that picture! I'd never seen that variation, they all look utterly darling and beautiful...It's so sweet how Olga put her arm sort of protectivley around her little sister in that shoot. Where did you find it?
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Oh I love that picture! I'd never seen that variation, they all look utterly darling and beautiful...It's so sweet how Olga put her arm sort of protectivley around her little sister in that shoot. Where did you find it?
I found it here http://www.bloomsburyauctions.com/ (http://www.bloomsburyauctions.com/)
Here is another photo from the same website. I know the photo is well-known, but I have never seen it so big and clear. Imperial Family in 1899:
(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/7755/11899augustotm5.jpg) (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/11899augustotm5.jpg/)
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Alexandra and Maria from RomanovRussia:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_alixmaria.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=alixmaria.jpg)
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This is for larri*-otmaprivatealbums: :)
(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/4581/1901.png)
And this one is absolutley darling:
(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1544/1905j.jpg)
Six-year-old Maria's saucers really are sweet here!
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A close up, click to enlarge:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_mc87tg.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=mc87tg.jpg)
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Earlier in this thread, I said I believed those in the boat are from left to right TN MN NA and AN....I was able to scan it larger and it's plain
I was wrong. It's AN, MN ,NA, and TN...the kicker, besides now it's obvious, is the earring being worn by the GD on the right.Case closed! lol!
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/th_boat.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/boat.jpg)
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Maria with Tatiana and Alexandra:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_mariatatianaalexandra.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=mariatatianaalexandra.jpg)
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(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_mariatatianaalexandra.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=mariatatianaalexandra.jpg)(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_ntaam.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/ntaam.jpg)
love that, it's new to me, thanks This might be the same day. At some point I want to paint a picture of AF and Maria going down the line of soldiers during the Feb revolution...it's these photos I'll be using as reference...the painting is there with in them
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Best of luck with the painting :) It might be the same day as you said, the photo I posted was taken in May 1916; I just noticed Nicholas is in the picture as well.
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Yes he and Alix are speaking as if they are unaware of the camera...I say this because Alix is twisting her fingers a bit. (and how often have I seen her daughters to that! ) If she was more aware of the camera , she might be more formally composed... there's another photo from this day of AF with the girls and she's speaking with peasant women. She looks quite relaxed
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Easily could be the same trip. Always liked this one. Looks like smokes in Marie's pocket
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/th_may1916.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/may1916.jpg)(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/th_MN1916.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/MN1916.jpg)
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With that scarf around her neck she looks a bit like Queen Luise of Prussia who was always wearing some kind of hat.
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Always liked this one. Looks like smokes in Marie's pocket
Where?
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Always liked this one. Looks like smokes in Marie's pocket
Where?
In the cropping of the last photo that Blessotma posted, it looks like there is something in Maria’ pocket, it could be smokes.
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/MN1916.jpg)
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Thanks VOF, you saved me the time! Exactly. The other's sweater pockets are quite flat. This looks more bulky than a handkerchief would be It could be anything of course . I also noticed Marie has earrings on here like the big pair...unusual...plus AN has her wristwatch on. It's interesting how often that watch shows up in later years.
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Thanks -- I couldn't even find her pocket!
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(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/Romanov_Albums/Maria%20Nicholaievna/th_mariazoom.jpg) (http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/Romanov_Albums/Maria%20Nicholaievna/?action=view¤t=mariazoom.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/Romanov_Albums/Maria%20Nicholaievna/th_IMG_2665.jpg) (http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/Romanov_Albums/Maria%20Nicholaievna/?action=view¤t=IMG_2665.jpg)
(Hahahaha)
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Maria:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_Maria4.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=Maria4.jpg)
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Not new but better size:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_470983407_o.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=470983407_o.jpg)
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Same picture as above yet this is in a better quality:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_pic-001.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=pic-001.jpg)
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(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/th_Marie1916.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/Marie1916.jpg)
1916
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Maria:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/th_formal-maria.jpg) (http://s1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/v0yager/Maria/?action=view¤t=formal-maria.jpg)
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Not new but better quality:
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/th_0293_4_lg.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/?action=view¤t=0293_4_lg.jpg)
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(http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7dqfdm1XF1qcfftgo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1308423056&Signature=wTb2iY%2FfKiGBbT266pfyOGbKvn8%3D)
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Prince Nicholas of Greece's book Nicholas and Alexandra, it states that it was taken at Krasnoe Selo. But now, I think it was taken at Peterhof. Just can't tell where at Peterhof. I don't think it's the Lower Palace. I'm saying this because there is a pic taken the same time from the Yeltsin website.
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Marie and Imp visiting wounded on Easter morning ( see the eggs) ...found by Voyage of Freedom =)
It's in that rare, 1928 book about their nursing days ...however it's the size that makes this extra special
http://i033.radikal.ru/1107/50/3a6e40f7c327.png
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Gosh!!! My pc can't open it!
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Gosh!!! My pc can't open it!
I just checked it again and mine does =/?
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Gosh!!! My pc can't open it!
I think it's because the photo is big, mine has been a bit slow. But great quality, thank you BlessOTMA.
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Yes, that must be it. It's a massive file.
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It was a problem of my pc. Now i'm on my mom's and it works - slowly but works, so it's my pc... it's a wreckage!
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It's a wonderful pic, I have never seen it before...with this pic one can Maria imagine as a loving and caring mother looking down on her sleeping child...
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Indeed she is Madonna like there. I frankly think Marie was saint like, the female principle in human form..... as well as a merry girl who liked to look for her favortie officers....it seems one can be both.... Jokingly the Tsar would wonder if Marie was a wholly human child. But I wonder too . She had something very powerful and extra, that I know. I feel it when I paint her. One of Maria's biggest problems in life was, where to put all the love she had to give. She filled every available space with it.
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Very beautifully said Annie... VERY beautifully said! Maria no doubt had enough love to make the whole world an ocean of it and the world more or less took that for granted especially in the end when her life was taken unnecessarily!
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Thank you Indeed, when Marie was little she wrote to Alix that no one loved her...Alix said but of course you are loved!....but I feel what Marie meant was no one loved her as she loved others. Not yet realizing her unusal gifts in this area, it may have felt to her that there was lack of love. But I believe Maria had to learn not to squeeze Alexei too hard and that not everyone had her amazing capacity to love, the latter being the harder lesson. In Tobolsk Maria would watch from the window and formed " friendships" with people she saw on the street ... people going about their daily lives, and who never knew they had a good friend in the Governor's house .
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Indeed she is Madonna like there. I frankly think Marie was saint like, the female principle in human form..... as well as a merry girl who liked to look for her favortie officers....it seems one can be both.... Jokingly the Tsar would wonder if Marie was a wholly human child. But I wonder too . She had something very powerful and extra, that I know. I feel it when I paint her. One of Maria's biggest problems in life was, where to put all the love she had to give. She filled every available space with it.
Thank you Indeed, when Marie was little she wrote to Alix that no one loved her...Alix said but of course you are loved!....but I feel what Marie meant was no one loved her as she loved others. Not yet realizing her unusal gifts in this area, it may have felt to her that there was lack of love. But I believe Maria had to learn not to squeeze Alexei too hard and that not everyone had her amazing capacity to love, the latter being the harder lesson. In Tobolsk Maria would watch from the window and formed " friendships" with people she saw on the street ... people going about their daily lives, and who never knew they had a good friend in the Governor's house .
blessOTMA, I've been trying for about eight years to express what you've said here so perfectly! It's really a remarkable thing that such a minor historical figure can eliciit such a powerful response from people ,almost a century later, seeing her childhood or teenage photos or reading a few anecdotes . And yet it's true. She did indeed have an enormous capacity to love., and it was noted early in her lifetime. And could be seen in that last photo.
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blessOTMA, I've been trying for about eight years to express what you've said here so perfectly! It's really a remarkable thing that such a minor historical figure can elicit such a powerful response from people ,almost a century later,....
Maria was a simple girl and yet so much more.... something very powerful. I'm very aware of it when I paint her...I sometimes have to advert my gaze . But let us believe the evidence of our hearts. Something remarkable and special was here for a short time almost a century ago, and I say it's true of all the children....just that Marie is the most obvious....because her simplicity allowed more to shine though imo.
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It would be hard to imagine that Maria's soft yet shy smile wouldn't make anyone happy to see her! Her beautiful smile and her sweetness should have "pardoned" her as well as her siblings!n How can one not see her smile and see her for the sweetheart and gentle soul that she was? And Annie i don't think anyone could avert their gaze as much as they tried to! :)
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.... And Annie i don't think anyone could avert their gaze as much as they tried to!
lol! Indeed she was all you say, amazingly sweet.....But she was powerful too and after awhile and with the great concentration that art calls for , at times her blue laser gaze can get pretty overwhelming...at least that's been my experience =)
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/KR%20funeral%20painting/Marie2-1.jpg)
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http://romanovs.tumblr.com/post/1213968917 (http://romanovs.tumblr.com/post/1213968917) (direct link to a fantastica blog!)
I LOVE Maria's expression here: everyone - expecially OT - is looking at her and she seems frightened! Like she is thinking: "Oh, gosh, EHY are you all looking at ME?" :D
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Oh, ok! Hope i understood.
The site is "The love that ended an empire", url http://romanovs.tumblr.com (http://romanovs.tumblr.com). The photos are from this site, not from me.
My pc with a stong antivirus (my husband is a pc expert, he does all these things for me) says it's completely safe. It's a tumblr blog, and it gave me no problems. Hope thi will help you ^^
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Sorry if its repeated but i had to post because its lovely
Close up of Maria ´s face
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lop45xTERO1qzjmo0o1_500.jpg)
Credits to the one who did this!!!
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Maria and Anastasia look like they're trying not to laugh:
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Large%20Groups/th_me002.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Large%20Groups/?action=view¤t=me002.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Large%20Groups/th_zoomwartime.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/NAOTMAA/Large%20Groups/?action=view¤t=zoomwartime.jpg)
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So finally I know where that photo I always thought was from Tobolsk, for some reason, came from! It's the one where someone whited out the soldiers etc. um...here it is:
(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6181/naotmaa1916.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/naotmaa1916.jpg/)
I guess I did at one point figure out that it wasn't from Tobolsk, because it's named "naotmaa 1916".
Great picture, it's a little different from the above one. the Little Pair's expressions are cute! It's like they're sharing some sisterly secret joke, or perhaps laughing at a funny-looking person!
(http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/5982/maria1913wsoldiersedite.jpg)
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According to the 'Camera and the Tsar', the group photo was taken on May 16th 1916, when the Tsarina opened new Hospital/Lazaret named after her. I am not sure was it taken in Evpatoria or Sebastopol?
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(http://img247.imagevenue.com/loc70/th_046116598_IMG1_122_70lo.jpg) (http://img247.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=046116598_IMG1_122_70lo.jpg)
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Love that one, figes74, thanks . I believe it was taken at Peterhof. I have wondered if that was a letter in her hand
Here is Marie in 1916 next to the Imperial train.
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Botkin/th_Marie1916.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Botkin/Marie1916.jpg)
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I believe it was taken at Peterhof.
Yes, most likely. In 1915.
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I had never seen this one of the uniform session.
I found it on this forum: http://www.rusempire.ru/forum/index.php (http://www.rusempire.ru/forum/index.php)
And this is the link. I found it amazing!
http://www.rusempire.ru/forum/ipb.html?act=attach&type=post&id=3113 (http://www.rusempire.ru/forum/ipb.html?act=attach&type=post&id=3113)
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I had never seen this one of the uniform session.
I found it on this forum: http://www.rusempire.ru/forum/index.php (http://www.rusempire.ru/forum/index.php)
And this is the link. I found it amazing!
http://www.rusempire.ru/forum/ipb.html?act=attach&type=post&id=3113 (http://www.rusempire.ru/forum/ipb.html?act=attach&type=post&id=3113)
I have seen that before, but never in such good quality! Thanks Sunny!
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Your welcome Gd Izabelle ^^
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i love all Marias Pics!! so beautifull in every picture! :) :) :)
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(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7198/6894472049_3b9ee3ced7_b.jpg)
Postcard of Maria in uniform. It's fuller than the well-known version, so I thought I'd share in spite of the poor quality.
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If it was in a better quality it would be really great!
Thanks for the finding, Dru!!
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Dru ! New to me , thank you!
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(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/th_TAM1914.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/TAM1914.jpg)
Lavardia, 1914
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(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/th_TAM1914.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/TAM1914.jpg)
Lavardia, 1914
I have a few photos of this session but i missed it *.*
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Dru, that postcard is lovely! And new to me...thank you for posting.
BlessOTMA, Not seen that pic. Thanks for posting!
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my pleasure =)
Just a close up of a well known photo of the stunning Maria Nicholaievna
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/th_Marie2.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/Marie2.jpg)
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(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/6010664773_f413868a21_o.jpg)
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GDI) What year are we thinking with this photo, or did it say somewhere? I'm guessing 1912-ish?
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It's from the 1910 session.
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(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/th_marie10.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/marie10.jpg)(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/th_marie1910.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/marie1910.jpg)
I recently ran into on the web a new to me pose from that series. The well known pose is first and then
the one that was new to me....taken a moment before or after the other.Her head has moved...
Lovely...the older Marie peeks though
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So very lovely! Where do you find all these Gems? Thanks for posting! :)
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It's from the 1910 session.
lol, thanks! I'm apparently awful at identifying Maria's look, and maybe because she had the most consistent look through her life of the four girls...in my opinion at least. Seems I'm always a couple of years in the wrong direction (older or younger) with my Maria guesses...
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So very lovely! Where do you find all these Gems?
Mostly Russian blogs about the family =) Sometimes there's something unusal among the known photos.
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Baby Maria, Olga and Alix:
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/upload.jpg)
http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/upload.jpg
I think that it is new, Alix's face is different, but I may be wrong.
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(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7105/7046192987_eb60eca7ff_b.jpg)
I had posted this picture awhile ago, and we lamented its poor quality, but I recently found a much better version! 8)
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Wow Dru! Wonderful finding!
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I saw this, but not this marvelous size and clarity ! Thank you Dru!
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Any late photo of Marie is especially prized as it seems she did alot of photo taking at that time and not as much posing! Here she is in a new to me photo wearing the hat with the two dark flowers. She's visiting with a wounded solder who sadly has lost a foot...but who seems to be forgetting that while in her presence. She had that effect. I know it's Marie ( though her resemblance to Olga here is marked ) because she's more substantial than Olga , but also because of her biceps ( upper arms) Marie had real muscles there that made her " as strong as any man " Sorry the quality is not the best.
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_articlephoto.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/articlephoto.jpg)(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_closeupMN.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/closeupMN.jpg)(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/th_mariehat.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Somewhere/mariehat.jpg)
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This photo is really new to me... how could you find that? Thanks*_*
I'd have said she was Olga but then realize she is too "heavy" to be Olga, LOL
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This photo is really new to me... how could you find that?
from a friend =) Thanks*_* I'd have said she was Olga but then realize she is too "heavy" to be Olga, LOL
Yes I used a nice word for it ...Marie was more " substantial" than Olga. But you know, it was all muscle! lol! I love seeing such photos because they confirm and yet expand our sense of them visually. I feel even the known photos shift a bit when I see a new one and that's exciting
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BlessOTMA that is new for me thank you very much for posting it! A question: do you know when was the picture taken? =)
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You are welcome larri....I would say 1915 or 16. Can someone read the caption? Thanks in advance
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IMO, the translation would be 'HIH GD Maria Nikolaevna is pleased to talk with a a wounded soldier, Tsarskoe Selo'. How would you translate 'izvolit' (deigned, pleased), or simply 'She is talking with a wounded soldier'. Yes, it must have been taken during the war, in 1915/6. Thanks a lot, BlessOTMA!
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A close-up from Maria
(http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/QQAAAL6N_EG4TSviVRH2jlCw82v3W-bOiZAbRTLCN3pRz3XR4i9lsILQ_m3ABRC_AaOxf-49TWHNxPaME7KBpe6ytk7ZkM7fF8CPxIzXqnabBzm9AJtU9VBf8-PuD8ibSY58ZoMSEXbyBZyvqA.jpg)
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I love that photo. Maria looks sweet in it!
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That's from the photo of Marie ,Olga and Anastasia taken from AF's bakcony...nice! thank you
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What year was that photo taken?
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тяв-тяв!
Too cute Sara!
I absolutely must have this one in a larger size so I may repost in the having fun section (muhahahahahaha)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/nq5l6x.jpg)
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тяв-тяв!
Too cute Sara!
I absolutely must have this one in a larger size so I may repost in the having fun section (muhahahahahaha)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/nq5l6x.jpg)
it is part of a photo with her, Nicholas, and Tatiana? (i can't remember well) having a trip outdoor on a crimean mountain in 1912, if i can remember well.
I can't wait to see the fun caption!
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тяв-тяв!
Too cute Sara!
I absolutely must have this one in a larger size so I may repost in the having fun section (muhahahahahaha)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/nq5l6x.jpg)
Oh I would love to see the bigger version too! Can already think of a caption for it! Thanks for posting!
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I have this one in large :
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg47/natsafan/th_NTMwalking.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/albums/gg47/natsafan/?action=view¤t=NTMwalking.jpg)
I hope it's big enough for you :)
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тяв-тяв,
Perfect! Thank you!
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Excellent! Thanks a bunch!
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You're welcome :)
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A clear version of a well-known picture of Maria:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img337/4691/ebcuccezfw.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/337/ebcuccezfw.jpg/)
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They were all so beautiful.... Olga and Tatiana had a very regal kind of beauty and Anastasia was endearing with her less perfect looks, and Maria´s beauty was very earthy, very simple and honest. Looking into her face one thinks not of grand halls and gilded candleholders, one thinks about a river running throu meadows and wind singing in the trees.
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They were all so beautiful.... Olga and Tatiana had a very regal kind of beauty and Anastasia was endearing with her less perfect looks, and Maria´s beauty was very earthy, very simple and honest. Looking into her face one thinks not of grand halls and gilded candleholders, one thinks about a river running throu meadows and wind singing in the trees.
Nice Ally. Well put and I can't say I disagree!
By modern standards Marie has the classic girl next door look to me. Beautiful but in an unassuming way. Tatiana and Olga are more regal looking. Perfect blend of looks and personalities between the four of them...
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What a beautiful, clearer version of that photo! Thank you for posting.
Maria, in my opinion, is the of the most beautiful of the four girls, just in my own opinion. Tatiana had a very regal type of beauty and unique looks. Olga was beautiful too. Anastasia, well, I agree with Ally on that one!
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What a beautiful, clearer version of that photo! Thank you for posting.
Maria, in my opinion, is the of the most beautiful of the four girls, just in my own opinion. Tatiana had a very regal type of beauty and unique looks. Olga was beautiful too. Anastasia, well, I agree with Ally on that one!
We'll never know how the fully developed Anastasia would have looked but I think she was developing into a bit of a stunner right at the point that her life was snatched away from her. Her sisters were already timeless beauties and I think the Imp was carving out her own niche, sadly never fully realized.
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Sara Araújo, I don't know how I missed your post with that photo of Marie until now...completely breathtaking...really I sometimes think Nichols wasn't joking when he said he worried if she was a human child...
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What a beautiful, clearer version of that photo! Thank you for posting.
Maria, in my opinion, is the of the most beautiful of the four girls, just in my own opinion. Tatiana had a very regal type of beauty and unique looks. Olga was beautiful too. Anastasia, well, I agree with Ally on that one!
We'll never know how the fully developed Anastasia would have looked but I think she was developing into a bit of a stunner right at the point that her life was snatched away from her. Her sisters were already timeless beauties and I think the Imp was carving out her own niche, sadly never fully realized.
Agree with this completely...I think Anastasia would have had a more modern, unique beauty about her when she was older and it is so tragic that we will never know.
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Wasn't it said that Anastasia, if she grew up, would have because a great beauty?
Anyone got any new Maria photos to post?
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Oh I love that picture! I'd never seen that variation, they all look utterly darling and beautiful...It's so sweet how Olga put her arm sort of protectivley around her little sister in that shoot. Where did you find it?
I found it here http://www.bloomsburyauctions.com/ (http://www.bloomsburyauctions.com/)
Here is another photo from the same website. I know the photo is well-known, but I have never seen it so big and clear. Imperial Family in 1899:
(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/7755/11899augustotm5.jpg) (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/11899augustotm5.jpg/)
does anyone have the other pictures of this series? and what book is it from, just curious. thank you
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Terrific clarity! Thanks!
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Wasn't it said that Anastasia, if she grew up, would have because a great beauty?
Anyone got any new Maria photos to post?
I believe it was, one of Alix's ladies who quoted that, but I can't quite remember who. I think Anastasia would have had a more...striking beauty to her sister's classic looks.
Does anyone have a full for this?
(http://media-cache-ec2.pinterest.com/upload/102527328987295325_mgoooRrw_b.jpg)
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Here you go:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8046/8106679720_2f89e5a143_b.jpg)
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Wasn't it said that Anastasia, if she grew up, would have because a great beauty?
"Perhaps Anastasia Nicolaevna would have grown up the prettiest of the sisters."
~Isa Buxhoeveden, The Life and Tragedy of Alexandra Feodorovna
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imo, Anastasia Nicolaevna had an unexpected stateliness about her by 1917 ...that impressed me in her 1917 tree stump photo. She matured during the war amazingly.
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/th_AN1917.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/AN1917.jpg)
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imo, Anastasia Nicolaevna had an unexpected stateliness about her by 1917 ...that impressed me in her 1917 tree stump photo. She matured during the war amazingly.
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/th_AN1917.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/AN1917.jpg)
I agree, and I also think it would have been rather difficult to tell what she may have looked like once she completely stopped developing. I don't believe we saw much of anything from her past the age of 17 in that last month of her life. She still may have had a little ways to go before settling into the physical features that would have defined her 20s and beyond.
I've mentioned before that Anastasia had a lot of physical phases. Much more than her sisters who had more of a predictable trajectory from their pre-adolescent youth onward. Sometimes I look at a photo of her as a 15 or 16 year old and it's hard to believe it's the same person in the next picture I see of her as a 6-8 year old. Just makes her that much more unique and interested to me :-)
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For some reason I can see that photo as a painting...
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For some reason I can see that photo as a painting...
Might I direct you to the following then...
http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/APpostImpfull.jpg
And back to Maria now. I feel bad that we are letting her younger sister take over her thread here :-/
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For some reason I can see that photo as a painting...
Might I direct you to the following then...
http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/APpostImpfull.jpg
lol thanks for that. But indeed one can see she inherited Alix's grace there...which the Big Pair got in full measure
And back to Maria now. I feel bad that we are letting her younger sister take over her thread here :-/
You gotta watch Shvybzik every minute , she can do that lol
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/OTMA%201911%20%20formal/th_Marie-b.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/OTMA%201911%20%20formal/Marie-b.jpg)
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Not sure if this one seen much, but Maria and Olga dressed up upon balcony. I guessing Alix did this, but am not entirely sure. (Year please if anyone has knowledge?)
http://tsarevnaofrussia.tumblr.com/image/36496597583 (http://tsarevnaofrussia.tumblr.com/image/36496597583)
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It should be 1908, IMO.
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1907-1909 I am guessing? It's a very nice photo!
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I posted that on AP last year. I believe 1907 is a good guess. =)
It surfaced because the photo came up for auction in Russia.
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Maria dressed for a play, I also do not have much knowledge of the year, but I think this came from a certain documentary, resulting from the quality. (2nd picture, after Tatiana)
http://tsarevnaofrussia.tumblr.com/post/37101808137#notes (http://tsarevnaofrussia.tumblr.com/post/37101808137#notes) I don't think I have ever seen this one before until now!
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Maria dressed for a play, I also do not have much knowledge of the year, but I think this came from a certain documentary, resulting from the quality. (2nd picture, after Tatiana)
http://tsarevnaofrussia.tumblr.com/post/37101808137#notes (http://tsarevnaofrussia.tumblr.com/post/37101808137#notes) I don't think I have ever seen this one before until now!
It's a screenshot from a VHS documentary called Nikolai i Aleksandra.
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Maria dressed for a play, I also do not have much knowledge of the year, but I think this came from a certain documentary, resulting from the quality. (2nd picture, after Tatiana)
http://tsarevnaofrussia.tumblr.com/post/37101808137#notes (http://tsarevnaofrussia.tumblr.com/post/37101808137#notes) I don't think I have ever seen this one before until now!
I've seen those ones, but to me, those are rare an I like them! Anyone got an idea of the year these were taken? 1913-ish is my guess...
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Maria dressed for a play, I also do not have much knowledge of the year, but I think this came from a certain documentary, resulting from the quality. (2nd picture, after Tatiana)
http://tsarevnaofrussia.tumblr.com/post/37101808137#notes (http://tsarevnaofrussia.tumblr.com/post/37101808137#notes) I don't think I have ever seen this one before until now!
I've seen those ones, but to me, those are rare an I like them! Anyone got an idea of the year these were taken? 1913-ish is my guess...
Tatiana's photograph from the same time shows her hair down and it seems to be quite long, so I don't think that would be the correct year, as she had her head shaved in early 1913.
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Completely forgot that she shaved her head in 1913! Thanks for the reminder, Holly. So Possibly 1912 or so?
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More
http://lacedheartt.tumblr.com/image/37350751019 (http://lacedheartt.tumblr.com/image/37350751019)
In a flower field
http://tatiananikolaevnaromanova.tumblr.com/image/37441378181/ (http://tatiananikolaevnaromanova.tumblr.com/image/37441378181/)
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I've always wondered what she is doing in that 2nd photo you posted! Anyone know?
And I love the one of her picking flowers...
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I've always wondered what she is doing in that 2nd photo you posted! Anyone know?
Maybe breaking the ice? you know, how they did that with the soldiers during the war? not sure if it was during captivity that March at Tsarskoe Selo or an earlier time, but I think that's what the photo is from.
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I've always wondered what she is doing in that 2nd photo you posted! Anyone know?
Maybe breaking the ice? you know, how they did that with the soldiers during the war? not sure if it was during captivity that March at Tsarskoe Selo or an earlier time, but I think that's what the photo is from.
Possibly, yes. That would mkae sense, with her using the sticks in the photo. Yes, I think the photo is from around 1914.
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Oh my goodness, that photo of Maria and Olga on the balcony is beautiful!
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I've always wondered what she is doing in that 2nd photo you posted! Anyone know?
Maybe breaking the ice? you know, how they did that with the soldiers during the war? not sure if it was during captivity that March at Tsarskoe Selo or an earlier time, but I think that's what the photo is from.
Possibly, yes. That would mkae sense, with her using the sticks in the photo. Yes, I think the photo is from around 1914.
That's quite possibly what she was out there doing (maybe wartime, but really it doesn't look like a captivity image).In any case, in this photo she's on and steering herself on a litttle ice floe, which is like Maria might do, but which could also lead easily enough to an icy dunking. Not that Masha would fear that.
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I've always wondered what she is doing in that 2nd photo you posted! Anyone know?
Maybe breaking the ice? you know, how they did that with the soldiers during the war? not sure if it was during captivity that March at Tsarskoe Selo or an earlier time, but I think that's what the photo is from.
Possibly, yes. That would mkae sense, with her using the sticks in the photo. Yes, I think the photo is from around 1914.
That's quite possibly what she was out there doing (maybe wartime, but really it doesn't look like a captivity image).In any case, in this photo she's on and steering herself on a litttle ice floe, which is like Maria might do, but which could also lead easily enough to an icy dunking. Not that Masha would fear that.
lol, certainly! But I'm surprised she was allowed to do this. I'd like to think no authority figures were present telling her (or asking her politely) to push her way towards shore and get the heck off that thing! Otherwise what were they thinking? Ice cracks all of the time, especially if it's warm enough to where there is liquid water surrounding her little floe.
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http://bulletproofjewels.tumblr.com/image/37881986659 (http://bulletproofjewels.tumblr.com/image/37881986659)
On horseback in 1908
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Completely forgot that she shaved her head in 1913! Thanks for the reminder, Holly. So Possibly 1912 or so?
To me, it was taken rather in 1914, if not later, like Maria breaking ice as well. (In 1914).
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Completely forgot that she shaved her head in 1913! Thanks for the reminder, Holly. So Possibly 1912 or so?
To me, it was taken rather in 1914, if not later, like Maria breaking ice as well. (In 1914).
Ah ok! Thanks!
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This web page contains wonderful colored photographs of the imperial family, here you can find colored photographs of Maria:
http://otma.blog.cz/1006/kolorovane-fotografie-velkoknezny-marie (http://otma.blog.cz/1006/kolorovane-fotografie-velkoknezny-marie)
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Maria and Anastasia play. 1912.
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x118/stj_album/0_DmitFe/OTMA/Screenshot_4_zps385b8f74.jpg)
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(http://www.rusempire.ru/forum/ipb.html?act=attach&type=post&id=5226)
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u586/MashkasSaucers/Nicholas%20II/Maria%20Nikolaevna/OlgaMaria_zpsee86bce2.png)
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u586/MashkasSaucers/Nicholas%20II/Maria%20Nikolaevna/MariaandAnastasia_zps9912bfa4.png)
Anyone seen these?
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xwhiterussia, no I don't believe I have, and thank you for posting! That sure is our sweet Marie :-)
Olga from St. P (with the Irina from St. P pic), well known photo of the Little Pair from Spala...but the camera effect makes for an interesting shot. Anastasia looks like a ghost!
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Seen them all, apart from the last one! Thank you, It's a nice one. :)
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edubs31, Sorry, I saw this photo only yesterday.
They are acting at the moment "Le Bourgeois gentilhomme" it seems ))
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I was going to ask what was super imposed on to Imp...looks like a double exposure. I have seen other copies of this and it turns out Anastasia 's custom had stripes...they usually get beached out . That's a onderful photo of Marie and one can see how complicated those blouses were!
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Or maybe Gilliard simply lied to us all of these years and the girls are really performing Tchaikovsky's "Swan Lake". What we are really seeing here then is Marie the sorcerer turning "Odette" (played by Anastasia) from a princess into a swan. We are seeing the morphing process from Imp to bird in front of our very eyes!
It's Anastasia folks, so anything is possible :-)
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That's been photoshopped. Or maybe part of a photo on the reverse of the page is showing through. Either way, here's a clean version:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Little%20Pair/th_17399461_zps65a61d18.jpeg) (http://s7.beta.photobucket.com/user/sarahelizabethii/media/Romanov/Little%20Pair/17399461_zps65a61d18.jpeg.html)
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(http://www.rusempire.ru/forum/ipb.html?act=attach&type=post&id=5226)
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u586/MashkasSaucers/Nicholas%20II/Maria%20Nikolaevna/OlgaMaria_zpsee86bce2.png)
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u586/MashkasSaucers/Nicholas%20II/Maria%20Nikolaevna/MariaandAnastasia_zps9912bfa4.png)
Anyone seen these?
In the bottom one, which I hadn't seen before,the officer on the left and woman on the right suggest Germany. Who might they be in any case?
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Love the top one. Looks like a ship - Mogilev, maybe, in 1916?
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Nope. It is rather 1914, on the Standart.
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Since I do not want to spam this thread every time with pictures, I created an album for Maria:
http://imgur.com/a/FOiec#0 (http://imgur.com/a/FOiec#0)
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Since I do not want to spam this thread every time with pictures, I created an album for Maria:
http://imgur.com/a/FOiec#0 (http://imgur.com/a/FOiec#0)
Whoa! Most of the pictures, while not of the greatest quality, are none the less new to me...am I the only one here?
Thanks so much for posting these Neeosine. Oh and by the way, I don't think it's humanly possible to spam us with too much Marie :-) But I really appreciate you creating this album!
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I love the one of her on stilts. She's got her hair up, so I thought it might be at Mogilev 1916. Can anyone confirm?
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Thank´s a lot for the link !
LadyH.
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I love the one of her on stilts. She's got her hair up, so I thought it might be at Mogilev 1916. Can anyone confirm?
Finland 1913 according to Count Grabbe, but he's not always 100% accurate.
I think it's more likely 1914. For some reason Maria was allowed to put her hair up during the Standart cruise that summer. We've never been able to figure out why.
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You are welcome LadyHetzer and edubs31, it may be updated more in the future. （＾ω＾）
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I, too, love the picture of Maria on stilts. Thank you, Neeosine, for posting this wonderful album.
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It was hard to refuse Marie. lol But I think they would be allowed to try on something
like that a bit early during a vacation...but would not be allowed it on the job until 16 ...just imo
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(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7411/8941732221_674f9d90ca_o.jpg)
Not new, but larger and clearer than I've ever seen it before. Download for full size.
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Stunning. Could she be wearing one of four pink & white court dresses on display at the AP?
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I think she is, Sanochka! It is a beautiful photo.
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She is. Thank you for the beautiful photo quality, Sanochka!
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Sorry if it was posted before, I have not seen it
(http://samoderzhavnaya.ru/media/photo/misc/normal/romanovy_livadia_palace_3.jpg)
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I have not seen it either. Thank you for sharing! :)
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Neat photo and thanks for posting Ally.
Possible that Tatiana is the one snapping the photo here? If so I love how she captures Marie talking to what appears to be an officer (surprise surprise!), and it looks like we see Anastasia and Olga from behind and off to the left. Is that the Empress seated in a chair over to the right...a woman leaning down to speak with her?
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Neat photo and thanks for posting Ally.
Possible that Tatiana is the one snapping the photo here? If so I love how she captures Marie talking to what appears to be an officer (surprise surprise!), and it looks like we see Anastasia and Olga from behind and off to the left. Is that the Empress seated in a chair over to the right...a woman leaning down to speak with her?
It looks like the Empress.
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Brand new to me too! It does look like the Empress.
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Amazing Ally, thank you. I have seen one from moments before, but not this one. Great!
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I seem to remember someone saying there aren't any known photos of Maria's regiment uniform besides the photos of her wearing it, is this a new one someone scanned?
http://24.media.tumblr.com/56234eab5359e9384096f4277ba5a922/tumblr_mo89y0iXSZ1qbioujo2_250.jpg
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Nice!..but it's so perfect I wonder if it's a photo shop creation...it seems to be floating with no real shadow.
However even so it gives a good idea how the uniform would look
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I seem to remember someone saying there aren't any known photos of Maria's regiment uniform besides the photos of her wearing it, is this a new one someone scanned?
http://24.media.tumblr.com/56234eab5359e9384096f4277ba5a922/tumblr_mo89y0iXSZ1qbioujo2_250.jpg
It could be the real thing -- I've got a different photo of the jacket.
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I seem to remember someone saying there aren't any known photos of Maria's regiment uniform besides the photos of her wearing it, is this a new one someone scanned?
http://24.media.tumblr.com/56234eab5359e9384096f4277ba5a922/tumblr_mo89y0iXSZ1qbioujo2_250.jpg
Thanks! This is not something scanned.... I think it's a photograph directly taken from where it had been displayed and just uploaded in a small size.
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(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3778/11112223625_f8103b068f_o.jpg)
Maria.
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WOW never saw that beyond her head and shoulders...spectacular, thank you! Is a dark cloak covering her right arm and side?
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Correction! That photo is new to me. I looked at the head and shoulder photo of Marie in uniform I have seen before and this is different . Thank you again!
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I read this was in 1915. Is it true?
I never would have guessed. Her face still looks so young.
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I've heard 1915 for this photo too...
Such a clear photo, so much detail, thanks once again!
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I read this was in 1915. Is it true?
I never would have guessed. Her face still looks so young.
When I first saved a copy of Maria's uniform photo years ago, the file was labelled 1913 and it seemed plausible to me. To me her face looks rounder and younger than in wartime photos. Is there a letter or diary entry perhaps that would confirm the 1915 date?
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Sorry if it was posted before, I have not seen it
(http://samoderzhavnaya.ru/media/photo/misc/normal/romanovy_livadia_palace_3.jpg)
Do you know where this photo was taken?
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At Livadia.
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Photo of Olga A., Alexei and Maria posted by TatianaZ on the rare photo thread some time ago
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg47/natsafan/For%20the%20AP%20forum/th_a9a9f1de1390_zps93ae4179.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/natsafan/media/For%20the%20AP%20forum/a9a9f1de1390_zps93ae4179.jpg.html)
Maria looks really nice in this photo :)
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She looked a lot like her father.
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тяв-тяв!
Beautiful profile
(http://i62.tinypic.com/11kfo81.jpg)
http://oi62.tinypic.com/11kfo81.jpg
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(http://i60.tinypic.com/25zqazc.jpg)(http://i62.tinypic.com/2hz1ehf.jpg)
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Thank you for posting the color photo of Maria's Dragoon costume. This is the first time I'm seeing it.
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It could be because of the lighting on the photo, but I always thought the uniform was green - yet this looks more of blue?
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The skirt is blue and the tunic is green:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Art%20and%20Letters/th_MNuniformplate.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/sarahelizabethii/media/Romanov/Art%20and%20Letters/MNuniformplate.jpg.html)
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Thank you Sarushka . The black and white photo shows there were different colors and what is remarkable is how differently colors react to light and film even within black and white and relatively low light
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Best quality I´ve seen!
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/0d9e2785094061083ff0491075e7e5da/tumblr_n2oumh9L151t24xovo1_1280.jpg)
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Best quality I´ve seen!
You have hit the mother load...that site has big files :) ( I mean the one indicated the upper right hand corner. )
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This one was just posted on Facebook by "Romanov Russia Today"
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Romanov-Russia-Today/540410679314852
Olga and Maria with little Alexei
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/10007447_712365575452694_249126257_n.jpg)
I suppose it is a "behind the scenes" of the 1906 formal shoot. (Am I seeing right and they put a bow in his hair?)
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Whoah. It is marvellous.
I suppose it is a "behind the scenes" of the 1906 formal shoot. (Am I seeing right and they put a bow in his hair?)
I agree with both.
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I suppose it is a "behind the scenes" of the 1906 formal shoot. (Am I seeing right and they put a bow in his hair?)
Those do look like the 1906 dresses. Olga's own bow is also more visible here than in the formal photos
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With Tatiana and ?
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/b91d57d78735cce4fccb5a678f3023d2/tumblr_n3gevkeVnZ1shke1io1_1280.jpg)
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Maria having her hair up :) - OTMAA with Nicholas and Michael
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/1678d984d1cf3326c7de469eb0c4d9a8/tumblr_n3gemtNxyZ1shke1io1_1280.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/e44943c5e6d7b4fd48bec0c6001c629c/tumblr_n3gemtNxyZ1shke1io5_r1_1280.jpg)
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Those are lovely photos, and the first I've seen of Michael with all his brother's children. Could he be wearing the Cross of St. George he was given in 1915?
With Tatiana and ?
Identified as Sofia Tyutcheva on Romanov Russia Today.
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Shared on FB by Royal Russia Today
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/de1034fc8013c8e0da3d0e050d4e56b0/tumblr_n4dwracLBU1shke1io1_500.jpg)
This is definitely one of my most fav photos of the four sister now. They all looks so beautiful.
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Another one from the same source
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/ca973513dfde6acda48ef2c46af3f8d0/tumblr_n4dws07I4t1shke1io1_1280.jpg)
Does the man have a name?
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Lovely photos!
Is the first one from 1914? Tatiana's fringe doesn't quite look like her 1913 wig.
I don't recognise the man in the second. The girls might be wearing be wearing the same coats that Olga and Anastasia wore in Germany in 1910.
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Lovely photos!
Is the first one from 1914? Tatiana's fringe doesn't quite look like her 1913 wig.
I don't recognise the man in the second. The girls might be wearing be wearing the same coats that Olga and Anastasia wore in Germany in 1910.
Actually Karen, I'm going to place the first one at 1916. Reason being that it appears to be from the same photoshoot as those pictures of the GDs aboard the Standart (or was it another vessel?). They were posted a few months ago on here and they appear to be dressed in the same outfits. I'd say early 1916 if I had to wager a guess. Anastasia, in particular, looks a bit old here for the 13-ish year old in those classic 1914 formal photos.
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Lovely photos!
Is the first one from 1914? Tatiana's fringe doesn't quite look like her 1913 wig.
I don't recognise the man in the second. The girls might be wearing be wearing the same coats that Olga and Anastasia wore in Germany in 1910.
Actually Karen, I'm going to place the first one at 1916. Reason being that it appears to be from the same photoshoot as those pictures of the GDs aboard the Standart (or was it another vessel?). They were posted a few months ago on here and they appear to be dressed in the same outfits. I'd say early 1916 if I had to wager a guess. Anastasia, in particular, looks a bit old here for the 13-ish year old in those classic 1914 formal photos.
They seem to be wearing the same outfits in these, but I don't think they're from the same day--their blouses differ somewhat in the three photos. It's hard to tell though since they have their sweaters buttoned up in some and partially unbuttoned in others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Olgatatianamarie1914.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/1374873_588628854523734_1618542772_n.jpg
Edubs31, I don't think it's likely that they are from 1916--Marie's hair is down for one thing--she "came out" in 1915 so it would have been up by that point. I also think that Anastasia looks too young for it to be 1916. 1914 seems more appropriate to me.
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I also think it's more likely to be 1914.
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Fair enough. I was basing it off of what I thought I remember those similar pictures having been dated as 1916.
Good point about Marie's hair being down. Anastasia does look a little older than 13 here, but I guess the evidence suggests otherwise.
Anyway, fantastic and lovely photo of the four of them...thanks for posting!
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Diffidently 1914 imo ...they were dressed that way while on Standart ..yet here they are on a roof top it seems
so Spring of 1914?
That photo is unreal!! Thanks for posting it
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Good point about Marie's hair being down.
Plus the Imp is shorter than she was in 1916...imo
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Diffidently 1914 imo ...they were dressed that way while on Standart ..yet here they are on a roof top it seems
so Spring of 1914?
That photo is unreal!! Thanks for posting it
It can't be spring, since the war started in July /early August.(OT are wearing nurse uniforms)
It could be late summer or even fall of 1914. Also, Maria started wearing her hair down in first half of 1914. There is photo of Tsar and Heir taken at the AP balcony from AF 's album labeled as 1915, and it is very similar to those two with GD Michael. But I' d also say 1914.
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Olga, Tatiana and Maria with uncle Ernie
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/ce9bee22d7dc7b8016e0dc393ba974ff/tumblr_n4jdspyAJn1rqdmblo1_500.jpg)
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Another wonderful photo! At first I wished it was larger so I could see Maria's expression better, then I noticed how casually she is standing.
Does anyone know where new rare photos like this come from? I presume they're from Russian archives, but I started wondering if there are Russian forums or blogs where there might be more information about the sources. Are they scanned by historians or can ordinary people interested in the Romanovs get access to their albums?
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To judge by the ages of those involved, this must have been taken fairly shortly before the outbreak of war.
Does anyone know when Ernst and the family last met? Presumably he and Nicholas met at Victoria Louise's wedding, but Nicholas went there by himself.
Ann
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I really wonder where people find these too! This one just popped up on my tumblr timeline without any source given
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/cca251c745f6528c2217d2e04ab61391/tumblr_n4jm60W6L41roxmkio1_500.jpg)
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Diffidently 1914 imo ...they were dressed that way while on Standart ..yet here they are on a roof top it seems
so Spring of 1914?
That photo is unreal!! Thanks for posting it
It can't be spring, since the war started in July /early August.(OT are wearing nurse uniforms)
It could be late summer or even fall of 1914. Also, Maria started wearing her hair down in first half of 1914. There is photo of Tsar and Heir taken at the AP balcony from AF 's album labeled as 1915, and it is very similar to those two with GD Michael. But I' d also say 1914.
This photo was posted in the Tatiana thread:
https://31.media.tumblr.com/289635a57b73fcecadaf705638ed6014/tumblr_n4g9jrkVjE1shke1io2_1280.jpg
I also found this one online:
http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb12sr8B3p1rc6qlgo1_500.jpg
It seems that they are wearing the same outfits as the ones posted above. Based on the length of Tatiana's hair in these, we can definitely say that it's 1914.
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I really wonder where people find these too! This one just popped up on my tumblr timeline without any source given
It's a closeup from a bigger photo. I think that's Ernst in the background, the photo could be from his 1912 visit (there's other photos of him and Nicholas on the tennis court).
I looked at my half-forgotten Russian-language history bookmarks (I've been slowly going through a couple of photo archives and ignoring the rest) and found a site that has these new photos and more, including good-quality versions of some of my all-time favourites. I can't believe it! I'll probably be posting quite a lot of stuff here and on Tumblr in the next days, but now I'm busy clicking and saving.
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The full photo:
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/2e7364c42667021d51b7c8017b95e546/tumblr_n4kpkwVpuf1tw2zo1o1_1280.jpg)
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I looked at my half-forgotten Russian-language history bookmarks (I've been slowly going through a couple of photo archives and ignoring the rest) and found a site that has these new photos and more, including good-quality versions of some of my all-time favourites. I can't believe it! I'll probably be posting quite a lot of stuff here and on Tumblr in the next days, but now I'm busy clicking and saving.
Do you think you could share the link please? :-)
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Do you think you could share the link please? :-)
It's this (http://vk.com/the_house_of_romanov) community on the VK social network.
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The full photo:
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/2e7364c42667021d51b7c8017b95e546/tumblr_n4kpkwVpuf1tw2zo1o1_1280.jpg)
This is a sweet and cool photo; everybody relaxed and Anastasia and Marie enjoying the attention in their unique ways.
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Do we know who the gentleman sitting down behind the ladder is?
Ann
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Do we know who the gentleman sitting down behind the ladder is?
I think it's Sablin, he's with them in another tennis court photo where Maria and Anastasia look like they're dressed the same way as here.
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I also think that Sablin could be there. And... GD Dmitri Pavlovich?
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Sigh... why is it always Maria´s picture that are unclear, smudged, damaged or missing?
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/25925452c04cd4635b1b5625378cf37f/tumblr_n53xr4Y7G31rh07xwo4_1280.png)
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Despite there's too much light, the photo is stunning. How beautiful Maria looks !
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Despite there's too much light, the photo is stunning. How beautiful Maria looks !
I agree. Maybe it's only fitting that Marie should be the unfortunate recipient of a lot of those tarnished and blemished photos...because there is simply no tarnishing and blemishing of her!
Thanks for posting these Ally!
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This is like seeing another photo from the 1914 formals. Often when I see a photo of Marie, like Nicholas, I wonder was she wholly human?
Stunning
Sigh... why is it always Maria´s picture that are unclear, smudged, damaged or missing?
Really, I was thrilled there even WAS one of this new group because as you say, they are often missing
Thank you again!!
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Maria, Olga and Anastasia with NIcholas and their cousin George
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/46cdfc4d4b61a95c8c31c9cca3bbd24f/tumblr_n5595u3x021rh07xwo3_1280.png)
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I wonder when this was taken. George was a full Lieutenant, so no earlier than 1913. His ship, HMS New Zealand was one of a battlecruiser squadron which visited Russia in July 1914, so it may have been taken then, which would fit with his being in uniform.
Ann
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I wonder when this was taken. George was a full Lieutenant, so no earlier than 1913. His ship, HMS New Zealand was one of a battlecruiser squadron which visited Russia in July 1914, so it may have been taken then, which would fit with his being in uniform.
Ann
That makes sense. The New Zealand wasn't even launched until shortly before the war, yes? Marie's hair is up, which she was allowed to do as a 15-year old unconventionally. The Imp doesn't look older than 13, maybe 14 tops, but certainly no younger than 12 here. 1914 or '15 I'd have to wager.
Cute photo by the way! Nice little space they picked out in that small clearing in front of the tree and water.
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Not 1915, as George did not go anywhere near Russia after the war began.
Ann
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Not 1915, as George did not go anywhere near Russia after the war began.
Ann
Had to be July, 1914 then. Chilling, in a way, whenever I see photos like this. Happy family members on the verge of being consumed by a war that many would not survive. The end of sort of innocence (blissful ignorance?) I guess you could say.
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Perhaps taken the same day as the better known photo of George, Olga and Marie...where Olga is sitting
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Sigh... why is it always Maria´s picture that are unclear, smudged, damaged or missing?
Because she's the middle child...lol, just kidding
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We might note that George Battenberg also died prematurely, if less dramatically - from bone cancer, aged 46.
Ann
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Maria, Olga and Anastasia with NIcholas and their cousin George
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/46cdfc4d4b61a95c8c31c9cca3bbd24f/tumblr_n5595u3x021rh07xwo3_1280.png)
Look at the dresses Maria and Anastasia are wearing. How often have we seen them clad in these? They must have been favorites.
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It seems to me Olga is wearing the same dress. Tatiana also had one. I would love to see a picture of them all in those dresses...
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It seems to me Olga is wearing the same dress. Tatiana also had one. I would love to see a picture of them all in those dresses...
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Ceremonies/th_1july1914.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/sarahelizabethii/media/Romanov/Ceremonies/1july1914.jpg.html)
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We might note that George Battenberg also died prematurely, if less dramatically - from bone cancer, aged 46.
Ann
Indeed and I remember his mother said that was the worse thing that happened to her...considering all the sad things that happened, that's quite a statement...but one a mother would make
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Maria, Olga and Anastasia with NIcholas and their cousin George
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/46cdfc4d4b61a95c8c31c9cca3bbd24f/tumblr_n5595u3x021rh07xwo3_1280.png)
Look at the dresses Maria and Anastasia are wearing. How often have we seen them clad in these? They must have been favorites.
Look at the background, too. Isn't there a series of photos taken of Nicholas and Alexei taken to the right, with Alexei posing on the old cannon in some, and in the crotch of the spreading tree in others?
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Yep, that's Peterhof. Quite a few photos were taken at that tree and by that cannon.
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Marie and Anastasia's dresses in these have something of a kimono look, a fashion and cultural trend of oriental style, especially Japanese, popular in that era in many parts of the world, especially France. But aparently inRussian high society as well, inspite of the not-so-distant war between the two countries.
It look s great on both , maybe more so on Marie, but with a feminizing effect on Anastasia too,as young as she was.
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This one is not new but in better quality than I´ve seen it
(http://cs614931.vk.me/v614931516/e849/5WOI3R4Ek-A.jpg)
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Same for this one
(http://cs614931.vk.me/v614931516/e840/mRJaLZBPf-Y.jpg)
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Super quality!!! Thank you!
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(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/tumblr_n140v2xIUh1rlb5pyo1_500_zpsac4da6ca.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/tumblr_n140v2xIUh1rlb5pyo1_500_zpsac4da6ca.jpg.html)
When and where was this one taken? It is labeled as '1917' but I need your thoughts.
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I think it is thé Alexander palace 1917. First because we have other pictures with prince Dolgorouki ans this Gard, I Will post one alter on. Second because of the Tsar'decorations. He wore only bis St George's cross, without anything else. As for Maria she is very thin here. As she was after her illness. What do you think about this?
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Here you have a picture with the same mens, without Maria. I do not know who is this little gard. Do you?
<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/clairecher/media/TsarskoeNADolgorukygardespelles.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/TsarskoeNADolgorukygardespelles.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo TsarskoeNADolgorukygardespelles.jpg"/></a>
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Good eye, Matushka, well done! So it is AP in 1917.
I do not know who is this little gard. Do you?
I don't know either.
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I think it is thé Alexander palace 1917. First because we have other pictures with prince Dolgorouki ans this Gard, I Will post one alter on. Second because of the Tsar'decorations. He wore only bis St George's cross, without anything else. As for Maria she is very thin here. As she was after her illness. What do you think about this?
But where at the AP? It's not Alexandra's balcony- the floor doesn't match and the windows are too high. Here's a photo for comparison.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Places/Inside%20Their%20Domain/Alexandras%20Balcony/th_1001376.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/visga/media/Places/Inside%20Their%20Domain/Alexandras%20Balcony/1001376.jpg.html)
Could it be the terrace off of the Semi-Circular Hall?
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My guess would also be that they're on the terrace outside the Semi-Circular Hall between two windows. The wall doesn't look straight.
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How beautiful!
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/b5a9986eaf40169ba21aaac63f92c64e/tumblr_n82xydnhCk1roxmkio1_1280.jpg)
Found here: http://tragicrussianbeauty.tumblr.com/
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Lovely! That might be the first proper profile of Maria with her hair up, in most photos she's facing the camera or wears a hat.
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Beautiful photo. It's one of the few where I can really see some of Alexandra's features in her.
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Try as I might, I do not see Alix in Maria at all. In all her children her features mixed with others but still managed to "come victorious" somehow, but Maria, in my view, had nothing from her mother´s side at all. It was all Romanovs and Danish branch of the broad family in her face and body structure.
The more pictures of teenage and 1916-1918 Maria photos emerge, the more I see how distinct she was from her sisters (even Olga, though there was some resemblance there) and I hope some colour pictures will be found, because one can just sense how her natural colouring must have added to her loveliness (and her sisters too, naturally).
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Where has this picture been all my (Romanov-viewing) life?
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Marie slays me every time . Stunning !! Thank you! She wore her hair up on the yacht while on vacation " well before being 16 and doing so on the job in St. P . I do see Alix in Marie...not as much as the others , (Perhaps it's because Marie always smiled lol ) but their mother can be seen on them all imo. I would also say Alix father was a big man too, so the size is coming from both sides of the family. Marie also looked a good deal like Alexi imo They smiled and looked merry the same way . Indeed, Mountbatten said their coloring added to their beauty and we know that was said of their Aunt Ella as well
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Tumblr has quickly become my favorite place for new Romanov photos.
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Tumblr has quickly become my favorite place for new Romanov photos.
You should check out some of the Romanov groups on vk.com :)
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Tumblr has quickly become my favorite place for new Romanov photos.
You should check out some of the Romanov groups on vk.com :)
Agreedx200 -- All the photos on Tumblr have come from VK.com
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It's amazing the amount of new photos you can find on the net these days! You think you've seen them all and then a whole bunch suddenly appears.
Seeing all these new images on the net makes me upset that all the books use the same ones over and over when with a little extra research you can find a lot of new stuff. And now with digital taking over physical books its a real shame that many of these photos will never see a hand held page.
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It has less to do with research and pretty much everything to do with expense. It costs a fortune to research, and pay for permission to publish, the untapped material in archives within Russia. People really have little idea if they are not out there trying for themselves. I am sure any author on this forum will pretty much echo what I have written.
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It has less to do with research and pretty much everything to do with expense. It costs a fortune to research, and pay for permission to publish, the untapped material in archives within Russia. People really have little idea if they are not out there trying for themselves. I am sure any author on this forum will pretty much echo what I have written.
Absolutely true. Even photos within the USA aren't cheap — it's not uncommon to pay $100 or more for permission to print a single photo in a book. (Just because a photo is out of copyright doesn't mean anybody can print or post it online. Only those who own an original print may do as they please with it.) I can only imagine what GARF charges non-Russians for permissions on previously unpublished images.
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Try as I might, I do not see Alix in Maria at all.
I agree - usually I don't see any resemblance to Alix in Maria - but there is something about the squint of Maria's eyes in the picture above that resembles a picture I've seen of a mature (maybe about 35-40 yr. old) Alix, I think one taken on the Standart, where their profiles are very similar. By that age Alix's face was more fleshy.
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The children's eyebrows had that same up ward motion as Alix . It's in their facial expressions that one sees their mother The photo of Marie ,AN Alexi , Tatiana and the Tsar in a train yard from 1914 shows the children a" what's next? why me? " Alix expression lol
LORD photos in books! Everything about it is hard It's often hard to even track down a photo's owner in the first place in order to get the rights besides paying etc. Thank goodness for Yale or books wouldn't even have those . Also thank goodness for the Internet!
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(http://38.media.tumblr.com/cf7f6f4fc89ecec8c0863143700a6e7e/tumblr_n5tc98kDt11rh07xwo1_1280.png)
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I am amazed by how the stones on the beach are so clearly visible. It was taken at Crimea during their visit to Livadia, certainly.
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(https://31.media.tumblr.com/6e250ab92e190b25856a25fd39496eef/tumblr_n9mi79PW8X1skwqjto3_1280.png)
August 2, 1914. The Imperial Family comes out from the Winter Palace on the waterfront in the direction of the yacht “Standart”, after reading the manifesto.
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Wow! What a stunning photo, showing all the tension, drama , and emotion of that historic occasion. Dear Marie seems worried or tense, though perhaps only by the press of the crowd.
Now that's a rare photo :)
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(https://40.media.tumblr.com/ccf8ac5d413d248ff51834c0755debd6/tumblr_n7qagvnyX61toyq87o1_500.jpg)
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Nicholas with all the children
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/736d143831553d29ea4585f06214c49c/tumblr_na0d8bHdoz1r71ilwo1_1280.jpg)
Source: http://tzar.ru/shows/away/nII
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Thanks Ally for posting this:). What a beautiful photo! One of my favorite of the IF.
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That one is pretty awesome! Tnx, Ally! Hmm, was it taken in 1912 or in 1911?
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I would say 1910. I think the children are dressed for the famous photoshoot.
(http://imageproxy.jxs.cz/~nd01/jxs/cz~/279/530/c2887fecd5_44821548_u.jpg)
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I don't think they are dressed for the famous photoshoot--in the new photo, the necklines of OTMA's dresses are much higher. I'm pretty sure, anyway :-\
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You are right! I did not notice the necklines. However I would still say it is the same day... (?) The shoes Olga and Tatiana wear are the same, plus all the girls have hair styled... perhaps it was not the same photoshoot....
after a while and another thought: It may be 1911. The hair of the girls look extremely similar to their 1911 shoot in formal wear with kokoshniki....
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1910 is also good thought. 1911 also would be an optimal answer. ;-)
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(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d0/97/70/d09770dc61cc1bf806e786860d73cc00.jpg)
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This photo is just too beautiful. All the girls look so pretty.
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/572c768dbb4940e6a9bf8258e706df38/tumblr_nbq267bpsO1tc6ouio1_1280.jpg)
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(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d0/97/70/d09770dc61cc1bf806e786860d73cc00.jpg)
historyofromanovs
Sweet, Maria, or , one might say"sweet Maria" :) Any idea of the date of this ?
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Any idea of the date of this ?
Autumn of 1916.
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This photo is just too beautiful. All the girls look so pretty.
One of my favourite new rares. I just wish there were more photos available from the days when Alexandra and the girls visited hospitals more formally like this and not as part of their everyday work. Usually there's the carefully posed group photo and nothing else.
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(http://33.media.tumblr.com/3625e47840a6f056fc445e33a5c3dc5c/tumblr_ncs1liWkur1tgm7h7o2_500.png)
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Any idea who the other two people are?
Ann
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Could the woman be Olga Byutsova, lady-in-waiting to the empress?
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Could the woman be Olga Byutsova, lady-in-waiting to the empress?
Yes, it is.
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(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5599/15458042650_21770e5fa1_o.jpg)
Well-known photo of Maria, but in excellent size and quality--from vk.com/naaotma. Download for full size.
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This photo is just too beautiful. All the girls look so pretty.
One of my favourite new rares. I just wish there were more photos available from the days when Alexandra and the girls visited hospitals more formally like this and not as part of their everyday work. Usually there's the carefully posed group photo and nothing else.
Yes, during their war-time nursing years the Romanov women rarely appeared at their hospitals out of nursing uniform. On one occasion they did, (relatively late in the war,I think) prior to going to some nearby religious ceremony when they were well dressed in civilian clothes. Those seeing them noted how rare their being dresssed that way in the hospital was. And though my memory is vague,I think the reaction was positive. Perhaps because sister nurses ,hospital staff, and soldier patients would have rarely, if ever,seen them in person in their 'Imperial 'mode?
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Maria with siblings, cousins and aunt
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/9a5f01300563c57cff04192c53a337c2/tumblr_ne9jkx73od1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
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Maria in a carriage wiht her mother and French president, 1914
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/65a20a95ed7cc264db2f81e2a03f9bb6/tumblr_nfu106soqe1tg9fk5o1_1280.jpg)
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Wow great find Ally! I'm guessing this is Poincare's visit right around the outbreak of the First World War. Always find images from around this time haunting. You look at the faces of the subjects, especially beautiful innocent Maria, and realized they have no idea of the tidal wave of horror that's about to wash over them.
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Great find! Thanks for sharing. I thought I had seen many photos of the IF, but I guess not.... :)
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I have been collecting the Romanov images since past eight years, and I still get surprised! I am also selfish enough to wish we keep discovering more and more!
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That one is great photo, Ally!
Count Voeikov's memories, 'With the Tsar and Without him (http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/books.html?sku=92)' clearly describes that event. The official visit occurred in early July of 1914.
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Maria and Anna Vyrubova on the Polar Star
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Maria_Nikolaevna_of_Russia_with_Anna_Vyrubova_aboard_the_Polar_Star.jpg/607px-Maria_Nikolaevna_of_Russia_with_Anna_Vyrubova_aboard_the_Polar_Star.jpg)
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OTMA
(https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/l/t1.0-9/10445914_834702959885621_8781543021047855132_n.jpg?oh=9c7eaea992dd0fe7be6577cdff912248&oe=5533C34B)
Shared by Romanov Russia Today FB page. I hope we get to see a better quality of this beautiful photo some day!
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It looks like it's from a book, so that gives me hope someone could end up scanning a bigger version. The girls seem to be wearing the same outfits as in the lovely 1914 photos from Livadia.
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Maria smiling
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/749/095/159ca4338f_99971245_o2.jpg)
Source: https://fotki.yandex.ru/users/eavm/album/452599
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In the hospital
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/055/854/d1665497e0_99971910_o2.jpg)
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/391/241/0712de342a_99971913_o2.jpg)
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/538/362/674d4a5235_99971919_o2.jpg)
Source https://fotki.yandex.ru/users/eavm/albums/
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(http://nd06.jxs.cz/809/766/245a22169e_99972123_o2.jpg)
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/831/116/4f0cb19f88_99972128_o2.jpg)
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/177/573/3d8ab2ae1b_99972131_o2.jpg)
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/551/277/2236204777_99972133_o2.jpg)
Source https://fotki.yandex.ru/users/eavm/albums/
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Fantastic Ally! Thanks so much for posting these. What a great collection!
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http://nd06.jxs.cz/809/766/245a22169e_99972123_o2.jpg
Maria looks like Olga to me!
Thanks very much and a looot for sharing those Ally! How I wish there's a way we can see all those photos in super big size~ However, these versions are better than not seeing them ^^
Her front teeth gap makes her look cuter!
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Indeed :) Found another "better than usual" picture - Maria and Olga in 1906 (they even have the 1906 photoshoot dresses on)
(http://nik191-1.ucoz.ru/nikolay2/foto3.jpg)
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http://nd06.jxs.cz/809/766/245a22169e_99972123_o2.jpg
Maria looks like Olga to me!
Her front teeth gap makes her look cuter!
I had the exact same reaction to Marie's little tooth gap, GD Shandroise. She made even her apparent slight flaws adorable!
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Try as I might, I do not see Alix in Maria at all. In all her children her features mixed with others but still managed to "come victorious" somehow, but Maria, in my view, had nothing from her mother´s side at all. It was all Romanovs and Danish branch of the broad family in her face and body structure.
Indeed, I always think she resembles Dagmar.
This photo is just too beautiful. All the girls look so pretty.
http://38.media.tumblr.com/572c768dbb4940e6a9bf8258e706df38/tumblr_nbq267bpsO1tc6ouio1_1280.jpg
It is always in the photos from war times that I notice just how beautiful Anastasia was starting to become and how grown up Maria was!
https://40.media.tumblr.com/ccf8ac5d413d248ff51834c0755debd6/tumblr_n7qagvnyX61toyq87o1_500.jpg
The gap.. :) That's it, I need to start getting back into updating my Romanov collection.
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So happy to see you over here Kassy!
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Maria and Anastasia with the wounded soldiers
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/e802e31079fc27ea0978221d464244f0/tumblr_nhst8o2fEU1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/b0e5ecf76b0271551d7829a95d106f31/tumblr_nhst8o2fEU1rh07xwo2_1280.jpg)
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Maria with Tatiana, Maria Pavlovna (the younger) and Dmitri Pavlovich
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/07deefc91fac861a5b8d225edd23e024/tumblr_n5qaodzrWm1rh07xwo1_500.jpg)
imperial-Russia.tumblr
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Two Maria's for the price of one.
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(https://38.media.tumblr.com/3381386ccae18cf99ea319447891d829/tumblr_nhzc3fIAzn1s3epeuo9_1280.jpg)
Source: http://mashable.com/2015/01/10/romanov-family-photos/
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(https://38.media.tumblr.com/dafe7753f695797efd46ce6aba6d7d67/tumblr_nhzc3fIAzn1s3epeuo4_1280.jpg)
Same source as above
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The best size and quelity of this well known photo I have seen!
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/dca36124264ac5e69726c6ab53496be6/tumblr_nijz1dKwpY1rlm2lro1_1280.jpg)
Source: http://antique-royals.tumblr.com/post/108779530903/otmaa
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(http://40.media.tumblr.com/cd8f4a8a2d00159806e469e69be10fe2/tumblr_nj5v1vUnpW1s8tajho1_1280.jpg)
Again shared by Ilya Grigoryev!
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Lovely photos all of them.
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What a wonderful photo of the three girls, Ally. Thank you for posting!
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From Royal Collection Trust
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/f7abe83903e7410bd73c7a4111460214/tumblr_njf52qYBwW1rh07xwo2_540.jpg)
Full image
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/117da4949d08266d49c6762f1d994e86/tumblr_njf52qYBwW1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
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Apologies if this has been discussed. All my life I've seen this photo labeled as Maria and Anastasia, but no matter how hard I look I can't see Maria in the top girl's face. Helen Azar's latest book has it labeled as Olga and Anastasia. This seems more likely. Thoughts?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/MariaAnastasiafaces.jpg/220px-MariaAnastasiafaces.jpg)
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I would say it's Maria. Here's another photo that seems to be taken in the same day. Hope it helps.
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1916gretta_zpsc700a8ea.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/1916gretta_zpsc700a8ea.jpg.html) (http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1916mauve_zps4a02ebcc.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/1916mauve_zps4a02ebcc.jpg.html)
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Yeah, I'd say it's Maria. The forehead is not big enough to be Olga's, IMO.
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While sometimes Maria and Olga can be mistaken for one another, I have never doubted this was Maria.
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Me neither (I see you've changed your sig pic, Ally).
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Me neither (I see you've changed your sig pic, Ally).
I have, but not for long. Not too happy with it, so I´m already looking for some other picture. Probably with Tatiana Konstantinovna again.
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Maria and Anastasia
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/203/498/d8614c728a_100331515_o2.jpg)
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A great new one to me. And despite its being the standard capsule characterization of them, I see Anastasia as being direct and maybe thinking " okay, here I am, go ahead and take my picture", while Maria seems happy and naturally welcoming and open.
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A great new one to me. And despite its being the standard capsule characterization of them, I see Anastasia as being direct and maybe thinking " okay, here I am, go ahead and take my picture", while Maria seems happy and naturally welcoming and open.
Indeed. And what a beautiful photo...thanks so much for posting these Ally!
My only small regret with this one is the clarity; two fair skinned children in white outfits posing in front of what appears to be a bright sky.
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Well known photo but in unusually good size and quality
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/980/105/e1d0978cb5_100343851_o2.jpg)
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How lovely she looks...I love their clothes generally, but the number of frills on that dress is a bit overwhelming.
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Better version of a well-known one
(http://cs625827.vk.me/v625827027/28401/y3D9SdAqZL8.jpg)
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1908
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/6140d94a673d181a6d4e106a31eac41f/tumblr_njyw60gw9w1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
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Better version of a well-known one
To me, this photo was a nice surprise because it's so familiar and has been around for such a long time that I didn't expect a higher quality version to show up. Now I can see things like the detail on Maria's shirt, which was missing from the low quality versions.
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Oh gosh I LOVE LOVE LOVE this photo!
On the Standart, 1912
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/acedef0510a87f45a4821c9f3695b2bb/tumblr_nkjo8uvdwq1s8tajho1_1280.jpg)
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 261 л. 13 об. фото 176
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LOVE IT!!!!
O: Sleeping...
T: omg that silly hair!
M: That gap! Always purty
A: Such a nice photo of the camera-imp!!!
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OH MY! What a beautiful photo! Thank you so much, Ally!
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There have been a lot of great rares in the past month but wow, this one is just stunning. Such wonderful smiles!
I wonder what the occasion was since Olga also has a solo photograph holding the flowers. I've never seen the little pair wear those dresses before.
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It is a gorgeous picture. There's so much natural expression in the girls' faces, especially in Maria's and Anastasia's. My mouth opened in delight the moment I laid eyes on it. Thank you for posting!
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Agree with everything that's been said above. Marie, in particular, has that adorable gap toothed smile and looks extra charming with her hair a tad messy. And this is without a doubt one of the prettiest pictures of Anastasia I've ever seen!
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Maria and Alexei, Tsarskoe SElo 1917
(http://cs621319.vk.me/v621319027/155ba/ZfvXsIcLUK4.jpg)
ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 25 об. фото 443
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Now it is great. Due to two reasons- it is rare to see both Maria and Alexei together. Another thing, it was taken in 1917. Is M standing on the ladder? Thank you Ally and Ilya.
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It really is rare! 1917, Maria outdoors without a hat, Alexei starting to look like a teen more than a child. It's a shame the details aren't clearer, maybe there was too much light when the photo was taken.
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I think Maria has her stilts with her, but is not standing on them. Instead, Alexei is kneeling.
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I think Alexei is standing in the water at the end of the plank you can see in these two pictures, Maria on her stilts behind him.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Water/th_RA8-Vk2K.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/visga/media/Water/RA8-Vk2K.jpg.html) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Water/th_ajoy.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/visga/media/Water/ajoy.jpg.html)
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You are right!!! Now I can see it!
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Maria, Tsarskoe Selo, 1913
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/46914981d34944824139ebcd9dfc25ca/tumblr_nl7ahhn5k81upjnawo1_1280.jpg)
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 261 л. 25 фото 365
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Lovely photo! It's the same funny looking boat that Tatiana was in ; D
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Standart, 1910
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/f88ab470fe13f1a634c19556ccd1e78f/tumblr_nlctb5gfw01upjnawo1_1280.jpg)
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 260 л. 3 фото 31
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There have been a lot of great rares in the past month but wow, this one is just stunning. Such wonderful smiles!
I wonder what the occasion was since Olga also has a solo photograph holding the flowers. I've never seen the little pair wear those dresses before.
It might be the 11 July 1912, for Olga's namesday. St Olga has his feast the 11 of July.
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I like the one of her in the boat.
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Me as well!
Here goes one in better quality than usual
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/037ffecd36a23bf1fdb53ef87024f0a6/tumblr_nlf2qs7dQ31upjnawo1_1280.jpg)
ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 16 фото 254
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That one is wonderful! I'd only seen very low quality versions, so this is the first time I was able to make out the expression on Tatiana's face.
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All of them lying on the hay like that. Cute.
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Is Anastasia taking a drag from a cigarette or just holding her hand up to her face for whatever reason?
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That one is wonderful! I'd only seen very low quality versions, so this is the first time I was able to make out the expression on Tatiana's face.
What would you say that expression is? It looks to me like she's squinting a bit from sun in her eyes.
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That one is wonderful! I'd only seen very low quality versions, so this is the first time I was able to make out the expression on Tatiana's face.
What would you say that expression is? It looks to me like she's squinting a bit from sun in her eyes.
Yes, the other girls are resting but it's like Tatiana might have opened her eyes and then turned away from the sun when the photo was taken.
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Oh gosh I LOVE LOVE LOVE this photo!
On the Standart, 1912
http://41.media.tumblr.com/acedef0510a87f45a4821c9f3695b2bb/tumblr_nkjo8uvdwq1s8tajho1_1280.jpg
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 261 л. 13 об. фото 176
Oh my gosh! This is my new favorite OTMA photo, bar none! There even seems to be a hint of a smile behind Tatiana's straight face and Maria and Anastasia couldn't possibly look lovelier. So thankful to that wonderful person who is making it possible for us to access so many new photos. I truly regret slacking off on my photo cataloging now! I have so much to catch up on!
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Царское Село, 1917 год
ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 25 об. фото 448
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4004/98255750.e/0_14de55_bc10955c_orig)
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Almost nothing pleases me more than photos from 1917-1918!
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Днепр, 1916 год
ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 12 фото 179
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/26/98255750.e/0_14e21b_dd0fb27e_orig)
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Almost nothing pleases me more than photos from 1917-1918!
I concur ! ...unless it's 1916-18
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Me as well!
Here goes one in better quality than usual
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/037ffecd36a23bf1fdb53ef87024f0a6/tumblr_nlf2qs7dQ31upjnawo1_1280.jpg)
ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 16 фото 254
Not only better quality, but of the more unusual photo taken at that time. The one seen for years, TN is lying down too
LOVE Marie in the boat and the look she flashes ...one gets a sense of her.. power..what else would you call it?
We are in a Romanov photo golden age :)
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Not only better quality, but of the more unusual photo taken at that time. The one seen for years, TN is lying down too
LOVE Marie in the boat and the look she flashes ...one gets a sense of her.. power..what else would you call it?
We are in a Romanov photo golden age :)
Marie's power is her cuteness anywhere and whatever expression she has on her face - be it cheerful or sour, one would like to pinch her cheeks because of her cuteness : D
And yes, I agree with you in that Romanov photo golden age... all thanks to the generous hearted people like Ilya (who heartily shares the scans straight from GARF, huwahh) and Ally (who tirelessly shares her finds from various websites), and everyone of those I forgot to mention, you know who you are. Love you all from APTM forum family <3
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“Каменоломня 1911″ Финские шхеры
ГА РФ, ф. 651 оп. 1 д. 260 л. 12 фото 186
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5602/98255750.e/0_14fa8e_566e45e3_orig)
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Ah, Maria out in nature. Typically adorable.
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Царское Село, 1915 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 71 фото 1055
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3106/98255750.10/0_15315a_49f405b5_orig)
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Царское Село, 1915 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 70 об. фото 1050
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9796/98255750.11/0_153519_6466639_orig)
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Seeing photos of Maria with her hair up makes me so happy!
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“9 июня - 12 июля 1913 г. Рейд “Штандарт”
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 31 об. фото 439
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5313/98255750.11/0_153a87_590cd115_orig)
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I cannot help but to feel that pictures of Maria are quite rare. I mean - sure, there are hundreds of them - but when compared to the number of photos taken of her siblings, you get a huge difference. And so seeing a new picture of "my girl" as I dare to call her sometimes when I have a fangirl moment, is a treasure. Thank you Ilya!
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Ally, i think, not only Maria photos are rare, but Anastasia too.
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Special for Ally))
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 70 об. фото 1047
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 58 об. фото 852
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/15493/98255750.11/0_153b89_27cc4ed2_orig) (http://s017.radikal.ru/i427/1505/cb/dcb0eddc7ed6.jpg)
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THANK YOU so much!!
Yep, Anastasia also has less pictures than Olga, Tatiana or Alexei! But still, my picture folder for Maria is by far the smallest. The two girls were responsible for the greatest ammount of photos taken, so it makes sense.
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Мария Николаевна в Петергофе, 1915 год (?)
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 58 об. фото 852
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3301/98255750.11/0_153d1f_3c7b3a3e_orig)
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Yep, Anastasia also has less pictures than Olga, Tatiana or Alexei! But still, my picture folder for Maria is by far the smallest. The two girls were responsible for the greatest ammount of photos taken, so it makes sense.
For me too the Maria photo folder is the smallest of OTMAA. That makes it extra special to see such beautiful rares!
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:)
(http://s018.radikal.ru/i512/1505/52/9ea68a184381.jpg)
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Great photo.A nice candid shot, showing something of a new look: biting her lip and with the thick, uncombed ,long hair.Displaying the natural beauty of which her contemporaries wrote.
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Moreover, some of Maria's solo photos and photos where she is in have "light exposures", scratches, etc. which appear exactly where she is/near her! It ruins the view of her very, very,very beautiful face! I am Maria's fan girl, too, so I ha~te that! (T_T)
P.S. Sorry for my grammar. I can't say what I mean in a clearer way :S
I am so unlucky right now. I can't see all new photos yet because I'm only having internet at phone where I can't load photos :' ((
Still, thank you very much Ilya!!
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Mashenka and her sisters in 1900 - this is an alternative version to a famous picture. Previously I have only seen it in very bad quality
(https://d9y2r2msyxru0.cloudfront.net/sites/royalcollection.org.uk/files/collection-online/8/f/522951-1425663815.jpg)
Courtesy of Royal Collection Trust
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Oh this is perfect <3
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Yeah this absolutely is one of the most adorable photos of them.
A little off topic here, but with regards to the subject of photograph quality. Was there really no significant advances made in home photography technology between the latter-19th and early 20th centuries? It just strikes me how a black & white photo from the 1940s could ever be poorer quality than ones taken in the 1880s. A much smaller gap but still significant can be seen on this very thread. We have pictures with breathtaking quality from 1900 (see above) and ones of very poor quality from 1916/17. I realize some of these were taken by professional photographers, but wouldn't the imperial family have had the best equipment available at their disposal as well?
It would be as if Polaroid snapshots from the 90s came out better than ones taken on your IPhone 6.
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Talking of better quality photos here is another one from Royal Collection - a well known one, but again, best quality I´ve seen
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/a855b2df75d5218b87bb616a64ff897a/tumblr_no5d3yWrYh1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
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Кронштадт (?), 1914 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 59 фото 861
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9742/98255750.11/0_1549fe_fcc3f05a_orig)
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I see a lot of Aleksey there!
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Крыму, 1914 год.
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 45 об. фото 659
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5507/98255750.12/0_155501_8ff88dd1_orig)
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I see a lot of Aleksey there!
Wow, no kidding. I was thinking the EXACT same thing! The resemblance is striking. And not just because her hair is tucked up into that hat and she's featuring a slightly Tomboyish look.
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Yes, the cast of feature is the same as Alexei.
Ann
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Ливадия, 1914 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 53 фото 775
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4914/98255750.12/0_155751_10fe0995_orig)
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Царское Село, 1915 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 70 об. фото 1045
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3001/98255750.12/0_1559c8_8bf3205e_orig)
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I was at first taken aback by this photo. You really see the filling out of her face here.
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She looks good and healthy to me in this photo.
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As regards photo quality, it is all due to lighting and other factors, all of which were worked out and done manually in those days. Much of this is just done automatically by cameras now.
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Крым, 1913 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 39 фото 553
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/55/98255750.12/0_15638d_74d6efa5_orig)
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I see a lot of Aleksey there!
Wow, no kidding. I was thinking the EXACT same thing! The resemblance is striking. And not just because her hair is tucked up into that hat and she's featuring a slightly Tomboyish look.
They look very much alike imo particularly when they smile
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Both Maria and Alexei inherited some of their looks from Alexander III. Alexei also had some of the Hessian feature too, while Masha had almost nothing from her mother.
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Masha was all Minnie, in my humble opinion.
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Masha was all Minnie, in my humble opinion.
I just find it remarkable that among all the people who have written about the family none has pointed it out. At most they say she inherited her grandfather´s strength.
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Masha was all Minnie, in my humble opinion.
I just find it remarkable that among all the people who have written about the family none has pointed it out. At most they say she inherited her grandfather´s strength.
Was Maria considered physically strong? I've heard people say she was built like a female AIII but still feminine looking. I definitely think Maria got her main facial features from her Danish grandmother. You can definitely see the similarity between Maria and a young Minnie.
I think Maria inherited the best combination of features from the Russians and Danes unlike say her Aunt Olga who seem to inherit her fathers built but none of her mother's femininity.
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Maria was a strong girl for sure. She could lifet all of her siblings, and I recall reading she could even lift a grown man! When Alexei was ill, she would be the one to carry him often.
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Крым, 1913 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 39 фото 553
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/55/98255750.12/0_15638d_74d6efa5_orig)
I just saw this photo for the first time. Without a doubt this is the most gorgeous picture I've seen posted of Maria. She's stunning here.
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I too found this particular shot of her pretty remarkable. A bit more slender looking face here than I'm accustomed to seeing. Very modelesque. Now if only we can find it in better quality some day.
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Мария Николаевна в Царском Селе, 1915 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 67 об. фото 999
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3809/98255750.52/0_15949d_d386ce13_orig)
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...and yet again I am stunned. Thank you Ilya!
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I too found this particular shot of her pretty remarkable. A bit more slender looking face here than I'm accustomed to seeing. Very modelesque. Now if only we can find it in better quality some day.
Absolutely agree! It's a lovely photo
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Мария Николаевна в Крыму, 1913 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 39 фото 551
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/15481/98255750.5e/0_15fad4_2dc210a1_orig)
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Any indication of who the three officers are?
Ann
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i dont know
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Could they be from the regiment of which Maria was Colonel-in-Chief?
Ann
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Мария Николаевна на Штандарте, июнь-июль 1913 года
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 31 об. фото 442
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4008/98255750.5f/0_160ab7_2fb160a7_orig)
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Is that me or anyone can see Emperor AIII in the picture?
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I wouldn't have thought so at first, but now that you mention it, it could be. Power of suggestion or basic genetics?
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Every time I see a new picture of Maria I recall a small book from 1917 that I have, which lists all people of importance during the time of Russian revolution. OTMA are metioned as well. Maria´s entry is terribly brief, but quite curious considering the "academic" tone of the book. It says "Maria Nicholaievna: third daughter of the ex-Tsar. She is undoubtedly the most beautiful of his daughters."
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Interesting that a book in 1917 would call Maria the most beautiful. And while all the girls had a certain beauty to them I agree.
I know the opinions of beauty change with every generation and for the most part people of today's generation do seem to call Maria the most beautiful of the sisters but I thought back then Tatiana was considered the beauty.
I don't remember who it was that said it but I remember reading a quote from a really close friend of the family (I'm sure it was one of Alexandra's friends) who said that Maria was very pretty but some of her features where not considered ideal, such as her lips which were considered too thick. They always single out Tatiana with the most praise even though all the girls are praised in their own way.
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It was Anna Vyrubova who noted that Maria had thick lips that "detracted from her beauty". The courtiers did usually take Tatiana for the most beautiful back at hte time, but Maria had many admireres as well, particularly later during captivity.
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Maria looking very beautiful and natural closeup
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/e15/11311892_979790298711995_824450800_n.jpg)
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Aww out of all the sisters Maria's hair always looks so soft and glossy - really healthy, it never looks frizzy or dry! Unbelievable. Credits to her hairdressers and genes
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Aww out of all the sisters Maria's hair always looks so soft and glossy - really healthy, it never looks frizzy or dry! Unbelievable. Credits to her hairdressers and genes
Its a big contrast in comparison to Anastasia's hair which frankly when messy looked kind of dirty and unclean. With a change of less fancy clothes she could pass off as homeless. Maria's hair on the other hand looks soft and silky even when messy. Even if she were dressed in rags she would still look every bit a royal as the pictures from their imprisonment show.
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Aww, I can well imagine Anastasia not liking her hair being done and having to sit still for it to be completed. Though it did look much more managed when she got a little older and her hair was up. Yet I think I'll always prefer the au-naturel impish look on her, but that's just me being stubborn and sentimental. Perhaps the other girls got their hair more from their mother? she was said to have 'unruly' hair. (I know that feeling haha). Did the girls trim their hair or just let it grow? If it's the latter it's remarkable any looked as good as they did. I wonder if Maria plaited her hair, put it in 'rags', or if it was just naturally wavy. My hair is naturally wavy AND unruly, perhaps I need to try out Maria's routine haha. Whilst we're on the strange subject of hair, Nicholas seemed to have silky hair too but then that's a hard one to tell from the male styling products of the time. Dowager Empress Marie seemed to have very tamed hair though, though again, with all the irons and styling preferred in her generation it is difficult to tell.
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Мария Николаевна в Стрельне, 1912 (?) год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 18 об. фото 259
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9820/98255750.7c/0_164f09_2f4afbc5_orig)
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Ah! My Dragoon Maria! She looked so fine in that uniform, so regal. It is my life-long regreat that there (probably) are no pictures of Maria in adult version of a court dress (like the Olga and Tatiana wore in 1914), because she would have looked incredible in it.
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Ally, the author of that 1917 book you have is very truthful in describing Maria : ) I also am thinking the author said that because of Maria's Russian beauty. Tho' Olga to me also looks just as Russian, people then would be in consensus in saying she is the only Russian beauty among the sisters so for them she's the most beautiful. Thanks for posting that, too! It's awesome to know another person complimenting her at such awful times.
Thebelgianhare, good observation! I just noticed that after reading your post. It's also interesting to find out about their hair regimen (especially the shampoo,lol) They did have their hair done, too, so maybe that did something to make her hair look greater. But on bad hair days, yay, what's her secret? As you said, perhaps it's in her genes. I agree with what you said on Anastasia's hair (preferring the impish look) and the reason why her hair looked almost always unkempt in ordinary days. It suits her personality and adds to her comedienne side ;)
Maria Sisi, hahaha! I cannot say more! You excellently worded that!
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I feel like Anastasia always got some unfair treatment when it came to her appearance. It's fine to talk about that on a message board, but it even makes it into biographical books! Which is unprofessional, if you ask me. One book (can't remember the title) even said something like, "Anastasia promised to be a beauty as a child, but that promise was never to be realized." What the heck? That's just unnecessary.
I think Anastasia often comes off as looking unkempt because you're looking at her beside her sisters. Yes, I admit OTM were prettier than Anastasia. But that's never made Anastasia look unattractive to me, just plainer. And I also admit that I'm more willing to bat for Anastasia here because I can identify a bit. My hair looks unbrushed and not taken care of no matter what I do to it. I go out into the wind, and it looks like I've been lost in the woods for a week. I think it might have been the same story with A.
Anyway, I have to point out the one photo we have of Anastasia with her hair up before she was shaved. In my opinion, she looked just as lovely as Maria and Tatiana there. I wish we had more of her hair up.
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I understood that to mean that because of her untimely death Anastasia would never have the opportunity grow into the beauty she was promising to be. I don't see anything unfair about that statement.
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Well, the passage went on to describe Anastasia as "dumpy" and said her hair lay flat on her forehead. That doesn't sound promising. Also, Anastasia was 17 when she died, already a woman physically.
Maybe that isn't what the author meant, but that's how I took it with his unflattering description of her.
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Clockwork I'm with you 100%
I feel like Anastasia always got some unfair treatment when it came to her appearance. It's fine to talk about that on a message board, but it even makes it into biographical books! Which is unprofessional, if you ask me. One book (can't remember the title) even said something like, "Anastasia promised to be a beauty as a child, but that promise was never to be realized." What the heck? That's just unnecessary.
Offensive and unnecessary indeed. Do you think that maybe these occasionally disparaging comments about her looks are made by those who didn't like her personality? Obviously a lot has been said about her ill behavior (at least as a younger girl). So maybe this is as an author's way of saying, "You suck and you're ugly too".
I think Anastasia often comes off as looking unkempt because you're looking at her beside her sisters. Yes, I admit OTM were prettier than Anastasia. But that's never made Anastasia look unattractive to me, just plainer. And I also admit that I'm more willing to bat for Anastasia here because I can identify a bit. My hair looks unbrushed and not taken care of no matter what I do to it. I go out into the wind, and it looks like I've been lost in the woods for a week. I think it might have been the same story with A.
Right. And I also agree that her occasionally unkempt look added to her charm. People always talk about what they enjoy about OTMA is that they seemed so common and ordinary once you removed the regal veil. But then criticize Anastasia for looking too ordinary? I too get tired of her being treated as the Ringo in the group by certain folks.
Anyway, I have to point out the one photo we have of Anastasia with her hair up before she was shaved. In my opinion, she looked just as lovely as Maria and Tatiana there. I wish we had more of her hair up.
Nice thought. What is so enjoyable about photos of OTMA is they each have a distinct look, and I feel their personalities really come through in their poses and facial expressions.
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I don't normally comment on people's looks (in either direction), and I'm no fan of Anastasia (I would lose patience with her very rapidly).
That said, she was only 5ft 2 tall (not going to grow any more), and distinctly chubby in the Tobolsk period.
There does seem to be a sense among some posters that no girl or woman can be anything but beautiful. Would anyone be complaining if someone remarked of a photograph, 'Mikhail was definitely losing his hair by then,' or 'Alexander III was putting on weight'?
Ann
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I don't normally comment on people's looks (in either direction), and I'm no fan of Anastasia (I would lose patience with her very rapidly).
That said, she was only 5ft 2 tall (not going to grow any more), and distinctly chubby in the Tobolsk period.
There does seem to be a sense among some posters that no girl or woman can be anything but beautiful. Would anyone be complaining if someone remarked of a photograph, 'Mikhail was definitely losing his hair by then,' or 'Alexander III was putting on weight'?
Ann
Agreed. And this is exacerbated in the context of OTMA who are often portrayed as these perfect innocent princesses (of course we know better). Princesses can't be unattractive or overweight of course. It just doesn't fit with the narrative (rolling eyes).
Keeping on the topic for a moment, and I apologize for steering us away from Maria, but Anastasia's apparent weight game in capitivity. Does anyone else mention this other than Alexandra and a retainer or two? Seems odd that their young male captors, many of whom became rather smitten with OTMA, wouldn't have referred to the youngest one as "chubby" or having "unfortunately" put on some weight during her time in captivity. Certainly we don't have much in the way of photos to prove this (acknowledging of course their dresses and heavy clothing of the period make it harder to tell). But even some semi-close ups like that fabulous photo of AN in white sitting on the stump in Tobolsk. I certainly can't tell that she's put any extra weight on.
Back to your comment Ann. While I certainly agree with you and our obvious gender bias, in the case of Alexander III I don't think too many folks would bother to comment on any decline in his physical features. When you start off as not being considered attractive generally you don't get criticized as much for being less attractive. Michael is another story.
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Good point about Alexander III never being considered handsome!
As to Anastasia at Tobolsk, I'm thinking of the tale of her appearing in some amateur dramatics with her fat bottom on display in her father's long underwear. I'll have a look in FOTR to see where it originates, and whether the original actually mentions Anastasia being chubby.
Ann
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I think its their tragic fate that makes people sensitive about commenting on their looks. They have to be beautiful because it makes their story even more tragic and it would be cruel to say that they were not so attractive looking after the way they suffered.
And after all nobody seems to have trouble being honest and judging the looks of Olga Alexandrovna or Archduchesses Gisela/Valerie and the Wales girls but they lived long lives so its okay to be more honest opinion wise about them.
The one thing I will say though about double standards is that when it comes to the girls/women its always, "yeah their not so attractive, almost masculine looking, but....." then say something more positive about them. You will hardly never get a "but....." when talking about the men.
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So someone who meets a tragic and untimely end has to be beautiful.
This rather suggests that if anyone who meets a tragic and untimely end happens to be a bit plain, then their death doesn't matter as much.
Maybe that sounds cynical, but I must declare an interest here - my mother used to tell me my face would never be my fortune!
But speaking for myself, I find someone like Olga Alexandrovna inherently more interesting and more appealing as a person because of her character, which had nothing to do with her looks (pleasant but unremarkable). I am rather put off Ella precisely because of all the gushing about her looks.
It does seem to me that Americans (not sure whether you are one, however) are more concerned about looks than the British. i am reminded of a tale told by a correspondent who was giving some technical advice on heraldry to an american lady who was writing a novel set in 16th century Scotland. Hearing about her plans to have the hero and heroine fall in love, he said, slightly tongue in cheek, 'Don't make her too beautiful,' meaning, make her pleasant-looking, but not a raving beauty. The writer declared that she could not possibly make her ugly, so made her beautiful, but deaf.
Ann
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Yes I am an American (although not much of a looker myself!) but I do agree with you in my own personal opinion from what I have seen that Americans care more about looks and activeness then the British or Europeans in general. I do hate to be judgmental but I do think overall Americans are more shallow when it comes to such things.
I'm personally not saying they have to be beautiful (because I don't) but I feel like that's what some people subconsciously think. To them it adds to their story. Their activeness is a big reason why people still talk about them nearly a hundred years later. If OTMAA looked like one of the Hapsburgs I doubt they would inspire the same passion. The response would be of great sadness and horror over what happened but not on the same level. It's incredibly shallow but looks do matter for many.
It's like children who get kidnapped. The little girl who everybody thinks is cute versus a little girl who isn't perceived as cute. Who will get more press attention? Of course the girl who is perceived to be cuter. The cuter child is more likely to capture the attention of people and their death or finding will get a bigger reaction. Of course that's not right and both children should get equal attention but that's how people act even if they don't mean to.
I'm probably not explaining myself well but I guess I'm thinking of it through an American media lens which is basically attractive people get more attention.
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It's like children who get kidnapped. The little girl who everybody thinks is cute versus a little girl who isn't perceived as cute. Who will get more press attention? Of course the girl who is perceived to be cuter. The cuter child is more likely to capture the attention of people and their death or finding will get a bigger reaction. Of course that's not right and both children should get equal attention but that's how people act even if they don't mean to.
There's a term for it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome)
Note it has a lot to do with social class. As humans we are Darwinistically programmed to think attractive looks = attractive person (for us to mate with). If members of the upper classes look good, it's a kind of biological legitimisation in our eyes: Of course they must be upper class, because they are so good / attractive / popular. This is especially poignant in the US, where class divides which deep down only are about capital, capital, capital are expressed in terms of race, access to health care and obesity, perhaps especially for women, whose looks are a physical capital they can capitalize on (from prostitution, stripping, modelling etc. to marrying up).
An obese black woman with bad teeth is extremely unlikely to be upper class in the US. (In some parts of Africa her obesity and sugar-rotted teeth might on the other hand distinguish her as upper class.) Karl Marx would have said that Americans see her and fool themselves into believing that the class warfare doesn't exist and that instead there is a beauty war and race war going on. (With cultural activists fighting pointless battles for alternative beauty standards etc.) What happens if a person deemed "not attractive" by society's standard is upper class? People brand the person "evil" etc. just to mask the unpleasant fact that the class system is "evil" and unfair, i.e. about as unfair as the distribution in looks. So looks become a metaphore for the taboo class system, but only the easily duped think they are one and the same.
Europeans are less concerned with looks and less angsty about class systems because we have more historical experience with a rather abritrary and unfair class system and because class actually matters less in Europe today than in the US, because of social democratic welfare states (even though they are declining). Rich and poor look more similar in Europe, yet this is changing fast as we speak, because of neo-conservative dismantling of the welfare states and the emergence of a new, imported, racially differentiated underclass.
Good point about Alexander III never being considered handsome!
What??? Perhaps never a "pretty boy" like NII, but damn he was über-hot handsome as a youth and quite attractive as a grown man. With his piercing look fixed on me I'd willingly prostrate myself for the Tsar-Batyuskha to be horse-whipped for my unashamed expounding of Marxist theory! (As you can see Freud is also a favourite of mine!)
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This thread has taken some very interesting turns, so where to begin?
Except for her very earliest years, it's hard to say Anastasia was very attractive physically by most objective standards, but then, standards of beauty are hardly objective to begin with. And yet looks are constantly changing and her last few known photos suggest she was growing more attractive in face. Several of her guards/ captors commented in this vein, one, (Peter Ermakov? Yurovsky? someone else?) finding her the most attractive. Though I don't recall pretty or beautiful being the term .And Bolshevik standards of female beauty were known to be influenced by class , as they found the vain , snobbish, pampered princess type (the 'haughty" Tatiana image?) unappealing as compared to the plucky, earthy, vital , prole girl. Though no prole, Anastasia more closely fits that part
I find Preved's link to "Missing white woman syndrome" and its examples fascinating. It identifies a very real phenomenon, which, though striking, may not be all that unusual on closer analysis. Does it not fit OTMA perfectly? Missing(exiled, then slaughtered),upper to middle class (and then some!, though no longer), young, white , and female, and pretty).The quadrifecta? All the requisite elements are there for the maximum press coverage and popular interest. Maddie McCann to the nth power.
And yet missing white woman syndrome , more broadly understood, incorporates some of the Western, (Caucasian?) world's most basic memes.If missing may include vulnerability, being in distress,or even harmed or killed, then the human sympathy is perhaps natural, even instinctual, and possibly evolutionarily beneficial.
In the Western world, where Caucasians are still dominant, and have set the social, poitical and cultural standards for virtually forever, being white is going to be a prime attractant.
Even more so, is being young. There's a reason young people's lives, in general, and especially, in a crisis, are given priority. Most of their life is ahead of them. An old person, however much he or she may have contributed to the world or however loved, will not be contributing long, or at all,if sufficiently aged. In short, young trumps old.
Similarly, females are valued and protected in almost all societies, because they produce life. Males don't have babies. Western cultural and social norms confirm this in every way,every day. Think of it in that norm of life threatening situations, "women and children first" , into the lifeboats, out of the fire, away from the threat. Female trumps male. It's biologically a good strategy (though there are some ethical and /or altruism questions.
I go in this direction because we've been touching on the whole OTMA fascination phenomenon. And this of course does indeed include the phenomenon of the universal high valuation of beauty, especially female beauty implicating health, vitality, and good reproductive prospects.
Is this "fair"? Who can say? Life is notoriously unfair. It was unfair to OTMA(A) in their early end. I've certainly pondered the OTMA adoration enough. I think it's pretty basic . There's much more to it, of course, but it works, has worked ,for me, as a not atypical white male.
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All very interesting.
I have to confess to having braced myself for a hostile response to my comments (particularly from the Americans!)
Yes, part of the reason for Madeleine McCann having been so much in the news is that she was a pretty little thing whom her parents portrayed as the most remarkable child since the Nativity. I agree entirely that those who die young are invariably remarkable in some way - none of them can possibly be ordinary, so every policeman killed on duty was a future Chief Constable.
But I suppose there is a certain poignancy about the photograph of Keith Bennett, one of the victims of Ian Brady and Myra Hindley, which appears in the newspapers every few months, a rather ordinary-looking boy in National Health glasses.
As to Alexander III, to my eye he had rather heavy features, as seen before he grew his beard, but in his late 30s, before he put on weight, he was a fine figure of a man.
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Touchy subject here but I'll attempt to weigh in - then brace for impact :-)
I think there are at least two prevailing notions when it comes to attractiveness, particularly regarding females. Both are inconsiderate, but one is a bit deeper and psychological in nature. The obvious is exactly what we are discussing. Pretty people tend to be more revered for no other reason than they are pretty. Unattractive women, by and large, find it much harder to rise to the top in most common professions.
The second part relates to this. I think many people see others - especially those of the opposite sex - as more personally attractive if they are also good looking. In the business world for example woman who are successful yet unattractive are assumed by many men to be aggressive, pushy, overly sensitive and often unlikeable. How else could they have managed to keep up with the boys? Unattractive and/or heavyset women I believe have a tendency to overcompensate in other areas because they lack physical appeal. In some instances this means a greater work ethic than their peers and a greater dedication to schooling and education...A sense of "if I can't be as good looking as the rest of them I better be smarter". At other times women who can't win over on looks alone are louder and more boisterous. The noisy-funny-fat women is certainly a stereotype, but not exactly a false one...at least not in my personal experience.
In addition to being more sexually desirable to straight men, attractive women are perceived to be more confident and more easy going. They are also assumed to be more likable in many cases. Of course there is always the pretty & popular "mean girl" lurking somewhere, but that's more a school age phenomenon as less common in adulthood. Pretty girls are assumed to be less angry, feisty and jaded because they've probably grown up being more popular and having advantages over their less attractive peers while also having a generally easier time of things. They simply didn't have to work as hard to get into people's good graces. Of course attractive women - and women in general - also struggle to find acceptance for different reasons, such as...If you're a pretty female you're probably dumb. If you're a pretty female you've had things handed to you. If you're a pretty female you were hired and/or managed to climb corporate ladder only because of your looks.
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So someone who meets a tragic and untimely end has to be beautiful.
This rather suggests that if anyone who meets a tragic and untimely end happens to be a bit plain, then their death doesn't matter as much.
It's overindulgence to be certain. One obvious advantage OTMA has is by dying so young their youth and beauty gets frozen in time. We never had the opportunity to see their physical decline which comes with living to a normal life expectancy. I always think of Irina. A stunner in her youth, born the same year as Olga and physically resembling Tatiana. Yet I always thought those same rather unique physical features that made her so stunning as a girl and young lady perhaps also hastened her physical decline. Not only do I find her a physically unattractive older woman, but she aged poorly. By the time she was 40 she looked like she was pushing 60...Similar things have been said about Alexandra.
But speaking for myself, I find someone like Olga Alexandrovna inherently more interesting and more appealing as a person because of her character, which had nothing to do with her looks (pleasant but unremarkable).
Agreed. I honestly think it's easier in some ways to admire Olga A simply because she wasn't terribly attractive. You're forced to concentrate more on her personality and accomplishments.
Yes I am an American (although not much of a looker myself!) but I do agree with you in my own personal opinion from what I have seen that Americans care more about looks and activeness then the British or Europeans in general. I do hate to be judgmental but I do think overall Americans are more shallow when it comes to such things.
Probably so. I feel like American culture historically has pushed the sexually boundaries more than most of the European countries you refer to. Whether it's the attitude of the media, Hollywood movies, Playboy pinup girls, or Sports Illustrated Swim Suit Issue models, America has a long standing fixation with sexiness and physical attractiveness...as the saying goes, "sex sells".
There's a term for it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome
I think one person and case that pretty well captures what we're talking about is the Natalie Halloway disappearance and presumed kidnapping and murder by Joran van der Sloot. That this became an intentional sensation had less to do with the mystery and facts of the case and more to do with Halloway being a beautiful young blonde.
If members of the upper classes look good, it's a kind of biological legitimisation in our eyes: Of course they must be upper class, because they are so good / attractive / popular. This is especially poignant in the US, where class divides which deep down only are about capital, capital, capital are expressed in terms of race, access to health care and obesity, perhaps especially for women, whose looks are a physical capital they can capitalize on (from prostitution, stripping, modelling etc. to marrying up).
Quite true. If a physically unattractive man has a lot of money chances are he'll marry and procreate with a "trophy wife". This means his children will likely be better looking than he. Then when his children, blessed with a healthy inheritance, do the same they're likely to have even more attractive children, and so on. Wealthy people tend to be better looking not only because they can afford personal trainers, the best cosmetics, and the sharpest looking outfits, but because of simple genetics. So, as you were saying, a beautiful looking person is generally also perceived to come from money and have a higher social standing.
An obese black woman with bad teeth is extremely unlikely to be upper class in the US.
Though funny how one particular woman fitting this general description is also one of the wealthiest and most beloved in the country :-)
What??? Perhaps never a "pretty boy" like NII, but damn he was über-hot handsome as a youth and quite attractive as a grown man. With his piercing look fixed on me I'd willingly prostrate myself for the Tsar-Batyuskha to be horse-whipped for my unashamed expounding of Marxist theory! (As you can see Freud is also a favourite of mine!)
Well that was unpleasant to read...
Similarly, females are valued and protected in almost all societies, because they produce life. Males don't have babies. Western cultural and social norms confirm this in every way,every day. Think of it in that norm of life threatening situations, "women and children first" , into the lifeboats, out of the fire, away from the threat. Female trumps male. It's biologically a good strategy (though there are some ethical and /or altruism questions.
Agreed Rodney, and I find that most men are happy to oblige. Youth, beauty and femininity are all powerful stimulants. I've thought countless times about a "what if" scenario involving either my saving of OTMA (and the other seven too of course) on that evening of 7/16/18, or simply trading places with them. Far less have I given serious thought to something far more common...laying down my life for my brothers on the battlefield were I to have joined or been conscripted into the military. Just an emotional pull towards the former.
Is this "fair"? Who can say? Life is notoriously unfair. It was unfair to OTMA(A) in their early end. I've certainly pondered the OTMA adoration enough. I think it's pretty basic . There's much more to it, of course, but it works, has worked ,for me, as a not atypical white male.
My thoughts (err, feelings) precisely!
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Hello Erik
I'm not arguing with any of that.
Is it something about uniforms or early death that makes all those WW1 casualties look rather handsome in their photographs?
Ann
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Hello Erik
I'm not arguing with any of that.
Is it something about uniforms or early death that makes all those WW1 casualties look rather handsome in their photographs?
Ann
Good question, Ann.I don't think it's the early deaths, since we're not seeing corpses necessarily. The uniform somehow enhances appearance ,I'd say. But underlying it. all, is that these were largely young men in the prime of life, and naturally tried for the best look, at least in posed formal photos.
My 25 year old maternal grandfather was a U.S. officer in 1917. He was a dead ringer for Ernest Hemingway, about the same age ,and also in the European war, though not in uniform. I think that look was rather fashionable among young men of that generation.
Further to my earlier post, I trust readers will be aware of the oftcited studies showing taller men have higher incomes than their shorter contemporaries, starting with first hire, and continuing throughout their lives.
A natural bias? Height indicating some advantage? strength? intelligence? competence? That's hard to justify other than taller men somehow inspiring confidence in those around them?
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Agree that it is in part the enhancing effects of uniform, and trying to look good for posed photographs, but there is also the poignancy.
I have photo of my father's much older half-brother, who died of TB at 26, as a training ship boy aged 16. I would not call him handsome, but he was a pleasant-looking lad with the family turn of feature, and a grin on his face, looking out from one of those sepia pictures with a painted backdrop. Knowing what happened to him, and that he was what used to be called a promising young man - he was the top boy of his year in the training ship, and had just got his Merchant Navy Master's ticket and just got engaged when he got TB....
Also there is something about moustaches, which were very much in fashion in 1914-18, that enhances a man's face. My paternal grandfather, both in uniform and as a civilian in jacket and tie, looks rather distinguished.
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The great appeal of OTMA lies in their physical attractiveness. They were, arguably, the most visually appealing bunch of royal/imperial siblings of their time. Even my initial interest in Russian history was sparkled by Maria´s photo and its haunting atmosphere. The "beautiful" and "sweet" image of OTMA is further enhanced because unlike with many other royals we have literally thousands of their informal pictures, making them "relatable" (although that is relative considering their status). Sadly too many "fans" never move on from mere adoration of the beautiful girls because they were pretty and nice, and tumblr is witness to this.
As for Anastasia, she was VERY pretty even by today´s standards, her only misfortune being that her three sisters were simply viewed as much more pretty than her. Had she be born in another family, she would probably be the greatest beauty.
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I know we have gone very far off topic, but I just have to say that I have always felt sorry for Anastasia. I have one thinner, prettier sister, and I can't imagine having three of them. The poor girl had to know she was generally regarded as the least physically attractive one in the family, and it must have been hard for her. She may have been an "imp," but she still had feelings--after all, who wants to be described as "dumpy?"
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Мария Николаевна во время посещения Федоровского городка в Царском Селе, 1915 год
ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 20 фото 355
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/16155/98255750.88/0_167bdf_ee13f3f7_orig)
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If members of the upper classes look good, it's a kind of biological legitimisation in our eyes: Of course they must be upper class, because they are so good / attractive / popular. This is especially poignant in the US, where class divides which deep down only are about capital, capital, capital are expressed in terms of race, access to health care and obesity, perhaps especially for women, whose looks are a physical capital they can capitalize on (from prostitution, stripping, modelling etc. to marrying up).
Quite true. If a physically unattractive man has a lot of money chances are he'll marry and procreate with a "trophy wife". This means his children will likely be better looking than he. Then when his children, blessed with a healthy inheritance, do the same they're likely to have even more attractive children, and so on. Wealthy people tend to be better looking not only because they can afford personal trainers, the best cosmetics, and the sharpest looking outfits, but because of simple genetics. So, as you were saying, a beautiful looking person is generally also perceived to come from money and have a higher social standing.
This might be how it works today, but I suspect it's a rather recent phenomena. In the past many men got rich(er) by marrying heiresses, who certainly weren't always good-looking.
Don't biologists say attraction deep down is about pheromones, i.e. smell? Humans can sniff out which members of the opposite sex their genes will click best with, producing offspring with the best immune system. (Thus opposites may attract.) Then think of all the upper-class offspring that has been produced not based on mutual attraction, but because of political or economic alliances, dowries, inheritances, Ebenbürtigkeit / endogamy or other social norms! Literal misfits.
Today I suppose it's not so much the upper classes actually looking so much better, but the underclass in capitalist societies often looking disgusting, because they live on cheap food that is not really nutritious, like all kinds of refined starch, palm oil and corn syrup based products. Combined with lack of vitamines and sunlight this gives them bad skin and a swollen look. The lower parts of the underclass add hereditary traits of facial and bodily asymetry to this through substance abuse, the effects of which (also that occuring before conception) may be inherited by their offspring.
In the past the underclasses often looked worn, faded and jaded, i.e. too old for their age, but because they were lean instead of swollen they looked handsome in a striking way (like the fashion models of today), not like the greasy-grey, spotty, dough-faced underclass in deprived areas today.
An obese black woman with bad teeth is extremely unlikely to be upper class in the US.
Though funny how one particular woman fitting this general description is also one of the wealthiest and most beloved in the country :-)
Who are you thinking of? Oprah Winfrey?
In addition to being more sexually desirable to straight men, attractive women are perceived to be more confident and more easy going. They are also assumed to be more likable in many cases. Of course there is always the pretty & popular "mean girl" lurking somewhere, but that's more a school age phenomenon as less common in adulthood. Pretty girls are assumed to be less angry, feisty and jaded because they've probably grown up being more popular and having advantages over their less attractive peers while also having a generally easier time of things. They simply didn't have to work as hard to get into people's good graces. Of course attractive women - and women in general - also struggle to find acceptance for different reasons, such as...If you're a pretty female you're probably dumb. If you're a pretty female you've had things handed to you. If you're a pretty female you were hired and/or managed to climb corporate ladder only because of your looks.
So, attractive women who have been hit on all the time from puberty are not jaded? No chance that has made them either megalomanics, man despisers or bedhopping libertines, depending on whether they welcomed (and acted on) the attention or not?
And what happens when such a woman is past childbearing age, menopause destroys her looks and no new man is sexually interested in her anymore? Has she developed enough personality to deal with that?
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I don't want to steer is too far off course. Not only is this Maria thread it's a Maria photos thread. So this will be my last comment on the topic...
Preved I agree with pretty much everything you said in your first three paragraphs...
Who are you thinking of? Oprah Winfrey?
Yes indeed! Obviously the exception not the rule but still. For such a supposedly racist, sexist, image conscious culture as America is often perceived our most admired woman is, arguably, a heavy-set black woman. The President is African-American, the current leader in national polling for the GOP nomination is black, and the leader on the Democratic side is a woman.
So, attractive women who have been hit on all the time from puberty are not jaded? No chance that has made them either megalomanics, man despisers or bedhopping libertines, depending on whether they welcomed (and acted on) the attention or not?
Of course it does. But if you line up 100 "attractive" women next to 100 of their unattractive peers I can almost guarantee you that you'll find a lower rates of self-esteem, higher-rates of depression, less popularity (at least when they were younger), lower income levels, etc., coming from the latter.
And what happens when such a woman is past childbearing age, menopause destroys her looks and no new man is sexually interested in her anymore? Has she developed enough personality to deal with that?
Probably not. Falling from a higher elevation will of course make the impact feel harder. But if she played her hand right she should at least be in a good condition financially, unlike her heavier-set less attractive peers. Marrying when you're young and hot to Mr. Money Bags means a lot of alimony dough when you're older...if he decides ditch you and mess around with the cocktail waitress half his age...you get me?
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I don't want to steer is too far off course. Not only is this Maria thread it's a Maria photos thread. So this will be my last comment on the topic...
Perhaps the moderators should move these posts to a separate thread about looks the relation between looks, class and psychology.
Who are you thinking of? Oprah Winfrey?
Yes indeed! Obviously the exception not the rule but still. For such a supposedly racist, sexist, image conscious culture as America is often perceived our most admired woman is, arguably, a heavy-set black woman. The President is African-American, the current leader in national polling for the GOP nomination is black, and the leader on the Democratic side is a woman.
That's great.
Too bad the country is going down the drain when these people finally get the power? E.g. Lenin succeeding NII?
So, attractive women who have been hit on all the time from puberty are not jaded? No chance that has made them either megalomanics, man despisers or bedhopping libertines, depending on whether they welcomed (and acted on) the attention or not?
Of course it does. But if you line up 100 "attractive" women next to 100 of their unattractive peers I can almost guarantee you that you'll find a lower rates of self-esteem, higher-rates of depression, less popularity (at least when they were younger), lower income levels, etc., coming from the latter.
I think that's very interesting, not at least with regard to OTMA. Maria and Tatiana are perhaps typical attractive women who men would like as mothers of their children: Maria always good-natured and cheerful, Tatiana stoïcal and a rock in the tempest. But I'm sure many boys would have liked the more obnoxious, yet fun Anastasia as their girlfriend and I, as a bisexual, feel a romantic longing for the depressed Olga. Oh, if I only could have heard her thoughts, introduced her to literature that would have widened her outlook, especially my dear Edith Södergran. I would have loved to sit at Olga's and Edith's feet and hear these two wise young women discuss poetry and methaphorical images from the Finnish coast.
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There is an OTMA for everyone, no doubt! Perhaps why the fascination and affection continues to live on nearly a century after their deaths.
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Мария Николаевна в Царском Селе, 1915 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 72 фото 1070
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/15514/98255750.88/0_168699_9fac198c_orig)
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Мария Николаевна в Стрельне, 1912 год (?)
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 18 фото 252
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5113/98255750.89/0_1695af_f9b44c6d_orig)
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A much better version of this elusive and beautiful formal portrait of Maria and Anastatia
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/19b91ed100c4d917753043bdb565ed61/tumblr_nyjgc8VaMS1rlm2lro1_1280.jpg)
Courtesy of http://antique-royals.tumblr.com/
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Wow! Thanks for posting Ally. This is a stunner indeed!
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It's wonderful to finally see that very familiar photo in such good quality!
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Ally, what a beautiful photo! So lovely to see the higher quality version! Thanks for sharing.
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Мария Николаевна
Фото из книги Н. Розановой "Царственные Страстотерпцы"
(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/15553/98255750.92/0_16c935_36c0da9c_orig)
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Ally, the author of that 1917 book you have is very truthful in describing Maria : ) I also am thinking the author said that because of Maria's Russian beauty. Tho' Olga to me also looks just as Russian, people then would be in consensus in saying she is the only Russian beauty among the sisters so for them she's the most beautiful. Thanks for posting that, too! It's awesome to know another person complimenting her at such awful times.
Imagine that you are born in Russia and consider yourself a proud patriotic Russian and you grow up surrounded by like-minded people. They also put you on a pedastal and have likely never studied your family tree carefully . Your mother is German and your father almost completely German too. Yet as you grow up, your fellow Russians comment on your classic Russian looks , Slavic features , etc . Decades after your death many people, including respected historians , still point out your splendid Russian appearance.
Just 1 of your 256 great x6 grandparents was Russian. It is there in black and white on your family tree. Your Russian ancestry was in fact very tenuous and was likely undetectable in your DNA . Your perceived Danish and English blood wasn't a reality either because , like yourself , your recent ancestors were born in countries (England and Denmark) to parents of German ancestry. So you have to ask yourself - why did everyone say I looked Russian , and why do people still say it now , even though I was more German than many actual Germans ?
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Good point!
Interestingly, George V, who was even less English than Nicholas II was Russian, was a quintessential Englishman in character.
There was a newspaper report over here yesterday of a girl being removed from white foster parents because she is 1.5% Choctaw Indian. By my reckoning, that means one of her 128 five-greats grandparents was a Choctaw Indian. I can't help wondering how anyone knows this - despite being interested in genealogy, I would be hard-put to name more than two of my five-greats grandparents!
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Good point!
Interestingly, George V, who was even less English than Nicholas II was Russian, was a quintessential Englishman in character.
There was a newspaper report over here yesterday of a girl being removed from white foster parents because she is 1.5% Choctaw Indian. By my reckoning, that means one of her 128 five-greats grandparents was a Choctaw Indian. I can't help wondering how anyone knows this - despite being interested in genealogy, I would be hard-put to name more than two of my five-greats grandparents!
Ann
The main point is - many OTMA fans simply assume they were far more Russian than they actually were ( the reality is 0.4% ) .They were German .
Looks are subjective for sure. But people often see what they want , or expect , to see. If they examine OTMA for long enough they will begin to see 'Russian features' etc , because they are looking for them, and are making wrong assumptions about their heritage . Authors have done so for decades , and still continue even now (Helen Rappaport for instance) . If all you have is a hammer , everything looks like a nail.
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Imagine that you are born in Russia and consider yourself a proud patriotic Russian and you grow up surrounded by like-minded people. They also put you on a pedastal and have likely never studied your family tree carefully . Your mother is German and your father almost completely German too. Yet as you grow up, your fellow Russians comment on your classic Russian looks , Slavic features , etc . Decades after your death many people, including respected historians , still point out your splendid Russian appearance.
Just 1 of your 256 great x6 grandparents was Russian. It is there in black and white on your family tree. Your Russian ancestry was in fact very tenuous and was likely undetectable in your DNA . Your perceived Danish and English blood wasn't a reality either because , like yourself , your recent ancestors were born in countries (England and Denmark) to parents of German ancestry. So you have to ask yourself - why did everyone say I looked Russian , and why do people still say it now , even though I was more German than many actual Germans ?
Of course "Russian" and "German" as racial concepts are very fluid: Most Russians with origins in European Russia are the result of a mix of a small group of Slavic-speaking settlers intermarrying with the original Finno-Ugric inhabitants. Belarussians, Ukrainians and Poles are more more purely Slavic, if you define "Slavic" as descendants of the people who spoke Proto-Slavic.
Germany can be divided into three main racial areas:
- Northwestern Germany - purely Germanic (but of course an enormous number of people in the Ruhr area have Polish immigrant ancestors)
- South and southwestern Germany - originally Celtic
- Eastern Germany - east of the Elbe-Saale line. This was originally home of many of the Germanic tribes that emigrated westwards during the Great Migrations (Goths, Vandals etc.) and the allegedly empty area was settled by Slavic tribes moving in from the east. Most of the place names in this area are of Slavic origin (typically ending in -ow or -in). The area was conquered, christianized and settled by West German and Dutch / Flemish settlers in the Middle Ages, who intermarried with the increasingly Germanized Slavic inhabitants.
Most of the noble and later royal families of Germany, even in East Germany, had their origin in West Germany (e.g. the Hohenzollerns, probably also the Wettins and the Ascanians), few of them were native to East Germany (e.g. the Mecklenburgs). Interestingly this division of Germany in three parts corresponds well with the current religious division of Germany: Northwest: Protestant majority; south and southwest: Catholic majority; East: atheistic majority.
Racial makeup in Germany today has been further complicated after WW2 by 12 million refugees from the lost eastern territories settling all over the country and intermarrying with the "natives", many of these refugees Germanicized Slavs if you go a few generations back.
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Some features are simply considered "Slavic" (or in this case Russia), and a face of a person can have those features even if theis ancestors were from other countries. Didn´t somebody say about Alexander III something along the lines "Did the Tsars marry German princesses for so long only to produce something so Russian looking?" Maria resembled her grandfather, who by many accounts "looked" Russian. That is all. She is called "Russian beauty" because she had features that are considered Russian.
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Some features are simply considered "Slavic" (or in this case Russia), and a face of a person can have those features even if theis ancestors were from other countries. Didn´t somebody say about Alexander III something along the lines "Did the Tsars marry German princesses for so long only to produce something so Russian looking?" Maria resembled her grandfather, who by many accounts "looked" Russian. That is all. She is called "Russian beauty" because she had features that are considered Russian.
Keisari Aleksanteri III could just as well be said to look very Finnish, i.e. Moomin-like. (The Moomins being a loving caricature of Finnish physiognomies.) Which of course proves the Finno-Ugric substrate in what it means to look "typically Russian". Another AIII-lookalike is Finnish actor Ville Haapasalo, who has starred in many Russian movies. Maria does also have something of the broad-snouted Moomin look.
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Imagine that you are born in Russia and consider yourself a proud patriotic Russian and you grow up surrounded by like-minded people. They also put you on a pedastal and have likely never studied your family tree carefully . Your mother is German and your father almost completely German too. Yet as you grow up, your fellow Russians comment on your classic Russian looks , Slavic features , etc . Decades after your death many people, including respected historians , still point out your splendid Russian appearance.
Just 1 of your 256 great x6 grandparents was Russian. It is there in black and white on your family tree. Your Russian ancestry was in fact very tenuous and was likely undetectable in your DNA . Your perceived Danish and English blood wasn't a reality either because , like yourself , your recent ancestors were born in countries (England and Denmark) to parents of German ancestry. So you have to ask yourself - why did everyone say I looked Russian , and why do people still say it now , even though I was more German than many actual Germans ?
Of course "Russian" and "German" as racial concepts are very fluid: Most Russians with origins in European Russia are the result of a mix of a small group of Slavic-speaking settlers intermarrying with the original Finno-Ugric inhabitants. Belarussians, Ukrainians and Poles are more more purely Slavic, if you define "Slavic" as descendants of the people who spoke Proto-Slavic.
Germany can be divided into three main racial areas:
- Northwestern Germany - purely Germanic (but of course an enormous number of people in the Ruhr area have Polish immigrant ancestors)
- South and southwestern Germany - originally Celtic
- Eastern Germany - east of the Elbe-Saale line. This was originally home of many of the Germanic tribes that emigrated westwards during the Great Migrations (Goths, Vandals etc.) and the allegedly empty area was settled by Slavic tribes moving in from the east. Most of the place names in this area are of Slavic origin (typically ending in -ow or -in). The area was conquered, christianized and settled by West German and Dutch / Flemish settlers in the Middle Ages, who intermarried with the increasingly Germanized Slavic inhabitants.
Most of the noble and later royal families of Germany, even in East Germany, had their origin in West Germany (e.g. the Hohenzollerns, probably also the Wettins and the Ascanians), few of them were native to East Germany (e.g. the Mecklenburgs). Interestingly this division of Germany in three parts corresponds well with the current religious division of Germany: Northwest: Protestant majority; south and southwest: Catholic majority; East: atheistic majority.
Racial makeup in Germany today has been further complicated after WW2 by 12 million refugees from the lost eastern territories settling all over the country and intermarrying with the "natives", many of these refugees Germanicized Slavs if you go a few generations back.
I more or less agree with you ; my specific point regards the strangely persistent Slavicisation, or Russification, of OTMA's appearance based on wrong assumptions about their ancestry. To me , OTMA look far removed from such categorizations . Which is to be expected , considering their family tree and the nature of genetic inheritance - there's nothing controversial about such a statement . But as I previously said , looks are subjective , and people see what they want to see .
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Some features are simply considered "Slavic" (or in this case Russia), and a face of a person can have those features even if theis ancestors were from other countries. Didn´t somebody say about Alexander III something along the lines "Did the Tsars marry German princesses for so long only to produce something so Russian looking?" Maria resembled her grandfather, who by many accounts "looked" Russian. That is all. She is called "Russian beauty" because she had features that are considered Russian.
I don't really place much faith in the impartiality of such accounts calling Maria a Russian beauty or that Alexander looked Russian . Put me in Russian uniform or make me Tsar and I guarantee people will say I ' look Russian ' ! I can see and compare with my own eyes. With all respect to those accounts , I can't think of anyone less 'Russian looking' than Maria. We are clearly seeing different things.
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A typical feature in us "Arctic Asians" (Scandinavians, Russians, Finno-Ugrics etc.) are high or prominent cheekbones.
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Interestingly, when I visited St Petersburg a few years ago, the streets were full of people with my kind of looks.
Ann
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This needs to back to the original thread (poor Maria !) , or else a new thread should be started on the subject .
My point is very simple ..OTMA are frequently cited by some contemporaries , historians , commentators and forum members as having 'Russian looks', or 'exotic looks' or 'classic Slavic features' .Yet no one ever describes them as having specifically 'German looks' or 'classic Germanic features' , even though OTMA were demonstrably German ! Or are their masses of German ancestors just not as important, as they were not called Romanov ? I fear therein lies the truth .
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Lovely pictures of Maria!
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At Livadia - Maria looking actually bashful at receiving those flowers!
(https://pp.vk.me/c631924/v631924079/2fb84/ADDvEcXWkLg.jpg)
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Fantastic photo! Any ID on the officer?
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Is Nicholas there?
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Is Nicholas there?
Yes, the man in the shadows on the far left.
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Didn´ t really know where to post this one as it is a whole family, but in the en it goes into my favourite GRand Duchess´s thread
(http://67.media.tumblr.com/60a8ec4066b8c3ddf24809a9107591dc/tumblr_o8elx057b81ud8ly8o1_1280.jpg)
I stumbled upon it here http://anastasiaarchives.tumblr.com/
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What a charming photo!
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Bad quality hammock photos
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1913-14%20hammock_zpsoxfzotbt.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/1913-14%20hammock_zpsoxfzotbt.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1913-14%20hammock2_zpshzlbtxwl.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/joibkb/media/1913-14%20hammock2_zpshzlbtxwl.jpg.html)
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She doesn't look very happy. Has someone surprised her, or is the hammock too slack to be comfortable?
Ann
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That's a lovely photo!
How old were they in that picture? They look pretty small!
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Do you mean the photo on board the Standard? It was taken in approx. 1905 so Olga was almost 10, Tatiana was 8, Maria 6, Anastasia 4 and Alexei was cca 1 year old. (It also depends in which month the photo was taken).
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Thank you!
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Peterhof (https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/61266/98255750.178/0_18b981_2c4bc891_orig)
Snow (https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/174352/98255750.185/0_18d19e_8b811b13_orig)
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(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/f9/4e/c9/f94ec9725ad66e468ae73918b808129e.jpg)
I have no idea what they are doing, what that pole is for, how Maria hasn't learned how to fly yet laying on that swing(?) but one thing is for sure; the Imp has been defeated by the Amicable Angel. Anastasia has perished, crushed by her older sister Maria.
OTMA meant Olga, Tatiana, Maria and Alexei all along! I have cracked the Romanov case! Historians gather forth! :D
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(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/f9/4e/c9/f94ec9725ad66e468ae73918b808129e.jpg)
I have no idea what they are doing, what that pole is for, how Maria hasn't learned how to fly yet laying on that swing(?) but one thing is for sure; the Imp has been defeated by the Amicable Angel. Anastasia has perished, crushed by her older sister Maria.
OTMA meant Olga, Tatiana, Maria and Alexei all along! I have cracked the Romanov case! Historians gather forth! :D
Haha, that's great GDSophie! Thanks for the cute anecdote :-)
And it turns out this particular photo is new to me...so thanks for that as well.
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I suppose the photo was taken on the same day as this famous one?
(http://nd01.jxs.cz/165/538/72b83387cf_40085201_o2.jpg)
The pole has actually ropes and "snares" attached to it and the point to slip into the snare and then run as quickly as possible - until you were lifted off the ground like on a carrousel. There are actually quite a few pictures of the Romanovs having fun like this.
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The pole has actually ropes and "snares" attached to it and the point to slip into the snare and then run as quickly as possible - until you were lifted off the ground like on a carrousel. There are actually quite a few pictures of the Romanovs having fun like this.
There was a pole like this in my local park where I grew up and it was very popular. It had rings at head or shoulder height (instead of snares) so you and your friends grasped the rings then ran in a circle until your feet were off the ground and you swung out and round the pole as if you were flying. Great fun!
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Courtesy of GARF
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/d2a0f7755367281c99d67833e01ddec8/tumblr_oo7g5b98bx1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
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One more
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/b071a241179e0f7dd30a0006bc6510b9/tumblr_oo7g1dvsXm1rh07xwo1_540.jpg)
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Wow Ally...fantastic! You're spoiling us here.
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Maria and Olga Alexandrovna
(https://pp.userapi.com/c836622/v836622079/3b441/t89smGIXU5E.jpg)
(https://pp.userapi.com/c836622/v836622079/3b46a/DNTFiY_8gjY.jpg)
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(https://68.media.tumblr.com/edb6f9c0ef865f6d575efd5471daac4a/tumblr_oocyi3uvZ31u07ttdo4_540.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/fa3d049d875c806295bd9b961040f3f6/tumblr_oocyi3uvZ31u07ttdo2_540.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/d81149a0a1ada5a7265faaad10decc30/tumblr_oocyi3uvZ31u07ttdo3_540.jpg)
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(https://68.media.tumblr.com/1572764c07095682c7e2296c575c00fe/tumblr_oocxwvcFoG1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
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Amazing photos! Maria must have been stunned to have her photos taken while painting and posed once she realised what was happening (I believe we all do this when someone takes our photo unexpectedly?), and I believe she's blushing as she shows her painting of the flowers in front of her. We hardly see photos of the Romanovs taken straight after one another, so this is most pleasing!
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Wow! The old photo of her painting is so familiar that it feels great to see new ones that were taken on the same occasion.
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(http://68.media.tumblr.com/afdf2fba4eef50034a7c570275fd64fc/tumblr_ooenf1Jbby1skf7s3o1_1280.jpg)
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/7c54986cecd126115ec705d3159b2830/tumblr_ooenkxWk2T1skf7s3o1_1280.jpg)
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(http://68.media.tumblr.com/d23d3b798ea14eb29b4aa302c8ccfbf1/tumblr_ooekl6bNyo1skf7s3o1_1280.jpg)
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Who is the young man standing with Maria on the beach, anyone know?
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A sailor from the Standart. This was taken in Finland.
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This is SUCH an utterly beautiful image! SO of course the watermark runs right across her face. :-(
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/5293d1ebb50c6be75e1359c80ae65efe/tumblr_op1cz6iaqf1upjnawo2_1280.jpg)
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Really beautiful photo of Maria! Shame about the pesky watermark. Thanks for posting Ally.
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These new photos of Maria and Tatiana are just stunning.
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I made some sort of noise when I saw it; I had seen Tatiana's about but I never thought about Olga, Maria and Anastasia having those kind of pictures taken, pity the watermark goes over her face, which they could have moved it just a little to the side. I just need to see O and A's now.
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Baby Masha
(https://pp.userapi.com/c638426/v638426105/3184c/Db3X4TUu-D0.jpg)
(https://pp.userapi.com/c638426/v638426105/31856/PSA0bqMSDVk.jpg)
Source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/99377981@N03/
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This is SUCH an utterly beautiful image! SO of course the watermark runs right across her face. https://68.media.tumblr.com/5293d1ebb50c6be75e1359c80ae65efe/tumblr_op1cz6iaqf1upjnawo2_1280.jpg
Where did you get this photo from exactly?
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Looks like it came from the Russian state archives site. This is from there too:
http://statearchive.ru/assets/galleries/851/1146.jpg
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The watermark on the photo is clear that it came from GARF, the National Archives of the Russian Federation.
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Maria with a little girl
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/d095a09bea50150f7522e3fa7183036e/tumblr_ot4z3ctTpE1wqen5jo1_1280.jpg)
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And little Masha herself
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/613458b09f77196a98d17a66ac143eaf/tumblr_otufxhaNwL1thq9wmo2_500.jpg)
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And little Masha herself
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/613458b09f77196a98d17a66ac143eaf/tumblr_otufxhaNwL1thq9wmo2_500.jpg)
Oh my this is rare. Now I am wondering if both photos were taken in Alexandra's dressing room in the Alexander Palace and that is the door to her bath.
Joanna
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And little Masha herself
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/613458b09f77196a98d17a66ac143eaf/tumblr_otufxhaNwL1thq9wmo2_500.jpg)
Oh my this is rare. Now I am wondering if both photos were taken in Alexandra's dressing room in the Alexander Palace and that is the door to her bath.
Joanna
In another thread, similar questions were raised about this photo:
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1908%20TMA%20og%20Rasputin_zpsrbkqqnyv.jpg)
They appear to have been taken in the same room. I believe that there was some discussion as to whether it was taken at Peterhof (the Lower Dacha I assume if that's true).
I don't think it's Alix's dressing room at the AP--the layout and decor are different. Also, I know that the imperial family were rather lax with Rasputin, but I can't imagine him being allowed in the Empress's dressing room. It just seems so inappropriate!
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That other photo must have been on Photobucket...
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(https://68.media.tumblr.com/623191d1270636cb5b7d8d6c0b84c0c8/tumblr_otudxfktIb1thq9wmo3_500.jpg)
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She looks very blond here. Mind you, the picture is in black and white.
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Well hair darkens over time, mine was originally blonde at her age then turned a dark brown which it has stayed. Also I assume it's very sunny considering how much light is shown in the picture.
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Maria was born a blond baby.
Here she is as a toddler with Olga
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/a9d12b5c35a85ec9970185ec39112062/tumblr_osn85kY0xL1wqen5jo2_250.jpg)
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Now I can not decide whether I prefer the toddler or adult photos of OTMA. I mean, I find any unseen photo rare, but I can not decide which are more rare -those taken while they were so young or the ones taken during the captivity...? :) Anyone's opnion?
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(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/08/e0/c6/08e0c60763d52466492fbd61ea008d3e.jpg)
A picture of Maria smoking. So I've seen pictures with Olga and Anastasia smoking, you're next Tatiana if you ever did.
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Wow, but is that really a cigarette? It was taken in late spring of 1914 in Finland.
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Nena, my thoughts exactly. It looks like a cigarette at first glance, seemingly dangling from her lips like some street thug, but on closer examination I see it stops just short of her lower lip. It could very well a defect in the photograph.
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Hmm people have said it is a cigarette but now that you mention it, it does look like just a line in the picture. Amusing that it looks like it's hanging from her lips, I think that's why people mistook it for a cigarette.
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Masha with her Papa and elder sisters
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/cf34fe274e9014331b2704d6abacae0f/tumblr_ouugj0cuBc1t5k7qjo1_500.jpg)
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(https://68.media.tumblr.com/2d6f9dba9660ff30d66a171ed1fb8a60/tumblr_ovkeq6gm4f1u07ttdo7_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/28875fec9f127a9ce62cc5d8c2d1a129/tumblr_ovkeq6gm4f1u07ttdo1_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/c410ac8800a5d1bf88299815d0a6d19c/tumblr_ovkeq6gm4f1u07ttdo4_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/525a7605f223f23212ceff78e9504d5d/tumblr_ovkeq6gm4f1u07ttdo6_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/9589463806a5f33bb56bb30bfafd26cc/tumblr_ovkeq6gm4f1u07ttdo5_1280.jpg)
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Shared by Ilya Grigoriev, courtesy of GARF, found on tumblr blog ohsoromanov
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/c498a69b4b37f9eb2acd7930d2858824/tumblr_owe5sc4bKc1r71ilwo1_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/7fc9be71a3fa23d5588d2770fb5bcfd6/tumblr_owe5sc4bKc1r71ilwo2_r1_1280.jpg)
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(https://scontent-frx5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/21765160_10214552711275225_653448045362407611_n.jpg?oh=f72a4e2e1603f4daf7f72318967abe25&oe=5A41999B)
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Whata lovely photo! Any idea how old Maria was in the photo?
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My best guess is 1902-1903, so she would be between three and four.
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1906
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/5ffc7aea4f7cf96ae76274897ffe5b1b/tumblr_ox1yk8JJYB1rh07xwo4_400.jpg)(https://78.media.tumblr.com/40257a5cba8f895224c70658be2ed45d/tumblr_ox1yk8JJYB1rh07xwo1_400.jpg)
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/285a5655e3dcbef9a967f05cc2178544/tumblr_ox1yk8JJYB1rh07xwo8_400.jpg)(https://78.media.tumblr.com/0e9711f94dfba9162b515478a7d1b42e/tumblr_ox1yk8JJYB1rh07xwo7_400.jpg)
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/895b7ac88d0ebaca18222a3c4b9dd1a5/tumblr_ox1yk8JJYB1rh07xwo2_400.jpg)(https://78.media.tumblr.com/9f4ea890ae632d93fc36b72fe4e434c4/tumblr_ox1yk8JJYB1rh07xwo3_400.jpg)
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/4d7c8ff9834f92482f586ed9d8e0a475/tumblr_ox1yk8JJYB1rh07xwo5_400.jpg)(https://78.media.tumblr.com/d150652861e0083b0f024620c2687a46/tumblr_ox1yk8JJYB1rh07xwo6_400.jpg)
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Olga, Tatiana and Maria with their Battenberg cousins in 1901
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/ae0ecf2419fafa5c303b44822106cff0/tumblr_ox21zpkbMu1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
Found on VK
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I'm assuming that the child on VMH's(?) knee is Lord Mountbatten and the boy in front is George. I'm assuming that the eldest girl is Louise Mountbatten, who was born in 1889 and so aged 12 in 1901 (she looks rather young to be Alice, who was 16 at this time).
Ann
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I'm assuming that the child on VMH's(?) knee is Lord Mountbatten and the boy in front is George. I'm assuming that the eldest girl is Louise Mountbatten, who was born in 1889 and so aged 12 in 1901 (she looks rather young to be Alice, who was 16 at this time).
Ann
The eldest girl, holding baby Louis, is Alice. The girl on the far left is Louise. George has his arm over little Maria.
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Those are amazing ones -I would never guess there were more photos taken and that they carefully selected which one are for public release. I also love those taken during taking the official photo-shoots.
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Maria doesn't seem particularly pleased with George's arm draped around her. Perhaps she was shifting position as the photo was taken?
Edit: On second thought, I think it's just the way she's sitting. Never mind.
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1906
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/5ffc7aea4f7cf96ae76274897ffe5b1b/tumblr_ox1yk8JJYB1rh07xwo4_400.jpg)(https://78.media.tumblr.com/40257a5cba8f895224c70658be2ed45d/tumblr_ox1yk8JJYB1rh07xwo1_400.jpg)
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/285a5655e3dcbef9a967f05cc2178544/tumblr_ox1yk8JJYB1rh07xwo8_400.jpg)(https://78.media.tumblr.com/0e9711f94dfba9162b515478a7d1b42e/tumblr_ox1yk8JJYB1rh07xwo7_400.jpg)
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/895b7ac88d0ebaca18222a3c4b9dd1a5/tumblr_ox1yk8JJYB1rh07xwo2_400.jpg)(https://78.media.tumblr.com/9f4ea890ae632d93fc36b72fe4e434c4/tumblr_ox1yk8JJYB1rh07xwo3_400.jpg)
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/4d7c8ff9834f92482f586ed9d8e0a475/tumblr_ox1yk8JJYB1rh07xwo5_400.jpg)(https://78.media.tumblr.com/d150652861e0083b0f024620c2687a46/tumblr_ox1yk8JJYB1rh07xwo6_400.jpg)
Hi Ally Kumari, would you mind sharing where these came from? GARF, perhaps?
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I found them on this website: https://les.media/articles/475099-avgusteyshie-docheri-ikh-imperatorskikh-velichestv
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(https://78.media.tumblr.com/35b7bb3799adff65db32043679e08086/tumblr_ox7fozuklO1wqen5jo1_540.jpg)
Baby Maria out for a ride and looking very happy about it.
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You can also see the date - 28th October 1906. (formal ones)
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Maria with her mother and sisters
(http://78.media.tumblr.com/15661cf5844947fe1d4f3eb3874286be/tumblr_ox6g2wGcEB1wqen5jo1_540.jpg)
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My first instinct upon seeing photos such as the one above is to immediately click "Like." If only there were such a button here.
Has there ever been a family, before or since, who could look as grand as this one?
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Maria, Olga and Tatiana
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/39caf932fda77adbd9e0a158f0c5eccc/tumblr_oyvdj7lMjv1qlpcnyo1_1280.jpg) (https://78.media.tumblr.com/98d10b5c26f238341f13f6f0d065c737/tumblr_oyvdj7lMjv1qlpcnyo2_1280.jpg)
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Shared by TatianaZ on Flickr
Maria in 1904
(https://pp.userapi.com/c841424/v841424672/79359/r-_wNkyJt4w.jpg)
(https://pp.userapi.com/c841424/v841424672/7934f/2aJ6MRrpBAs.jpg)
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And two years later
(https://pp.userapi.com/c840227/v840227528/8b424/-lWjbSN_DXY.jpg)
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So cute!
(https://pp.userapi.com/c847123/v847123967/1391/HvBscbldgsc.jpg)
Source https://vk.com/whitegrandduchess
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Shared on Flickr by TatianaZ
This has to be one of my favourite photos of Maria!
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/813/40066955875_a3101c27d9_b.jpg)
And a little cutie
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4781/39150926310_2b51202776_b.jpg)
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Maria, Anastasia with aunt Irene and her family
(https://pp.userapi.com/c846221/v846221054/7ce6/oirrsmNz_K0.jpg)
Source https://vk.com/whitegrandduchess
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Maria, Anastasia with aunt Irene and her family
(https://pp.userapi.com/c846221/v846221054/7ce6/oirrsmNz_K0.jpg)
Source https://vk.com/whitegrandduchess
I presume this was taken in 1903 or early 1904. I think the smaller boy is Prince Henry? If so, this may be one of the last photos of him taken, or at least the last one of him with relatives.
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Maria, Anastasia with aunt Irene and her family
(https://pp.userapi.com/c846221/v846221054/7ce6/oirrsmNz_K0.jpg)
Source https://vk.com/whitegrandduchess
I clicked on this site a few days ago and found a new addiction. It is an unbelievable trove of photos and videos I have never, ever seen before. It would be so easy to spend hours at this site. Thanks for posting, Ally!
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Yes thouse rare pictures are indeed a treasure. To bad that my Russian is not so good.
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I really hope they release this 1914 photo soon on GARF!! :o
(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p424/thesecondsister/7A1E8E23-D6F3-4457-BE3B-BDE55DBD0F7F_zpsjzk0z7pt.png)
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It is great one indeed!
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Yes! I hope the full gets released soon I’d love to color it
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Some newly discovered photos go on show at the Science Museum in London. The images were captured by Herbert Galloway Stuart, an English tutor to Grand Duchess Xenia's sons, between 1908 and 1916. They were unearthed by chance at the National Science and Media Museum in Bradford.
Here's the one that features only Maria and one of her cousins.
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/d911ffc32a6e5883a2cd5a33514762d8a1876a07/1116_996_4855_3260/master/4855.jpg?width=1010&quality=85&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=833cbcd8a9d688274c38c858be774565)
Maria, Anastasia, Alexei, one of their cousins, an unknown lady and an officer.
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/e88e6f4b8dbd05a063dbabd6fabb78b37f525541/1350_982_4657_3363/master/4657.jpg?width=1010&quality=85&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=6e403bdddaf44bb53597a7e30c5a0bfa)
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The first picture is particularly adorable.
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Another one from the same source
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/b53c8c10b45bd3ef4e6595719b80ab13/tumblr_pfq4onJ0Et1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
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Not from the newly found photos, but I haven't seen this photo before! I've seen Anastasia taking a picture in the mirror, but not both of the Little Pair!
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/91/be/6a/91be6a39cfca41a1284fad69656065b7.jpg)
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It was originally shared by Ilya Grigoriev here https://vk.com/lastromanovs .
And it was labeled as ГА РФ ф. 685 оп. 1 д. 189 л. 13 об. фото 253
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Same source as above
ГА РФ ф. 673 оп. 1 д. 231 л. 10 фото 192
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/4b9914cbcb0a167aae0a970374f2403f/tumblr_phbf8jvJnV1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
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More nice pictures.