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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Habsburgs => Topic started by: Rani on May 07, 2009, 12:31:34 PM

Title: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Rani on May 07, 2009, 12:31:34 PM
Koppay was a hungarian painter. He was great like Laszlo, Winterhalter and Stieler.

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/DonaIsabella/EleonoreFrstinvonBulgarien.jpg)

Eleonore of Bulgaria

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/DonaIsabella/ErzherzoginJosepha.jpg)

Maria Josepha

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/DonaIsabella/ErzherzoginMarieValerie.jpg)

Marie Valerie & Elisabeth

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/DonaIsabella/FrstinzuWindischgrtz.jpg)

Elisabeth Windischgrätz

Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Rani on May 07, 2009, 12:38:00 PM
Franz Joseph  Nathan Meyer Victor Rothschild

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/DonaIsabella/Koppay_Kaiser_FranzJoseph_Emperor_P.jpg) (http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/DonaIsabella/NathanMeyerVictorRothschild.jpg)

Lord Lionel Walter Rothschild

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/DonaIsabella/LordLionelWalterRothschild.jpg)



Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: MarieCharlotte on May 07, 2009, 03:09:00 PM
(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/DonaIsabella/EleonoreFrstinvonBulgarien.jpg)

Eleonore of Bulgaria

This is Marie Louise of Bourbon-Parma, a half-sister of Empress Zita
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on May 07, 2009, 06:57:58 PM
Interesting paintings. I'll ad these:

(http://www.askart.com/AskART/photos/VHC20080516_7018/533.jpg)
(http://images.artnet.com/WebServices/picture.aspx?date=20040629&catalog=18740&gallery=111532&lot=00114&filetype=2)
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on May 07, 2009, 07:05:05 PM

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/DonaIsabella/ErzherzoginMarieValerie.jpg)

Marie Valerie & Elisabeth


They're Marie Valerie and Ella
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Princess Susan on May 08, 2009, 02:20:48 AM
"Elisabeth" is all right, because Ella is only nickname of Elisabeth. All eldest granddaughters of Empress Sisi were named after her.
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Princess Susan on May 08, 2009, 02:24:05 AM
Lovely pics, by the way. ;) I have not known this painter, though I have known many of his paintings before.
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Marc on May 08, 2009, 06:22:40 AM
Interesting paintings. I'll ad these:

(http://www.askart.com/AskART/photos/VHC20080516_7018/533.jpg)
(http://images.artnet.com/WebServices/picture.aspx?date=20040629&catalog=18740&gallery=111532&lot=00114&filetype=2)


Who are the painted persons?The first one looks like Wilhelm II...
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on May 11, 2009, 06:40:02 PM
First of all, excuse me, I don`t know why I thought that you were talking about
Elisabeth Sissi, yes I was wrong.

About the pictures that I added before:

You're correct, he's the Kaiser Wilhelm.
The second is the archduchess Maria Inmakulata
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on May 11, 2009, 06:46:55 PM
In color...

(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/26/s_65e6050a73454aac955e37e17e203cde.jpg)

Detail

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Marie_Valerie.jpg)

Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Marc on May 12, 2009, 12:57:22 PM
First of all, excuse me, I don`t know why I thought that you were talking about
Elisabeth Sissi, yes I was wrong.

About the pictures that I added before:

You're correct, he's the Kaiser Wilhelm.
The second is the archduchess Maria Inmakulata

Thank you...I have never seen portrait of Maria Imaculata..very interesting post...
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: MarieCharlotte on May 13, 2009, 06:11:02 AM
Thank you...I have never seen portrait of Maria Imaculata..very interesting post...

I guess the little girl is Maria Immaculata, a daughter of Leopold Salvator ... there were a couple of archduchesses having that name.
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Marc on May 13, 2009, 04:47:28 PM
I think also,cause her name has k instead of c so she is listed as Immakulata as Sissi posted...
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on May 14, 2009, 06:42:26 PM
Two new:

I found it as Mrs. Marjorie Johnson
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_QSV8hW-NBww/SbGRD4c5L7I/AAAAAAAAA3E/Ojwv6p-dT7s/Mrs+Marjorie+Johnston_San+Francisco.JPG)

And this as Zarin Alexandrovna, but really I don't know, What do you think????

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_QSV8hW-NBww/SbGUC2ZSXvI/AAAAAAAAA4M/IDgcircFyk4/Zarin+Alexandrowna.JPG)
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Marc on May 15, 2009, 07:14:53 AM
Don't see the post ;-(
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on May 15, 2009, 07:39:32 PM
Mmm... I don't know what happened with that pictures, but don't worry, I
hope you can see them :-)

Zarin Alexandrovna

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_QSV8hW-NBww/SbGUC2ZSXvI/AAAAAAAAA4M/IDgcircFyk4/Zarin+Alexandrowna.JPG (http://lh3.ggpht.com/_QSV8hW-NBww/SbGUC2ZSXvI/AAAAAAAAA4M/IDgcircFyk4/Zarin+Alexandrowna.JPG)

Mrs. Marjorie Johnson

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_QSV8hW-NBww/SbGRD4c5L7I/AAAAAAAAA3E/Ojwv6p-dT7s/Mrs+Marjorie+Johnston_San+Francisco.JPG (http://lh6.ggpht.com/_QSV8hW-NBww/SbGRD4c5L7I/AAAAAAAAA3E/Ojwv6p-dT7s/Mrs+Marjorie+Johnston_San+Francisco.JPG)
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: MarieCharlotte on May 16, 2009, 03:36:33 AM
(http://images.artnet.com/WebServices/picture.aspx?date=20040629&catalog=18740&gallery=111532&lot=00114&filetype=2)

I found this picture of Archduchess Blanca and her eldest sons. In the back you can see Koppay's painting of Maria Immaculata. Maybe the one in the round frame is a work of Koppay, too?

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/mariasophia1841/blanca_soehne01.jpg)
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Marc on May 16, 2009, 06:54:12 AM
Mmm... I don't know what happened with that pictures, but don't worry, I
hope you can see them :-)

Zarin Alexandrovna

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_QSV8hW-NBww/SbGUC2ZSXvI/AAAAAAAAA4M/IDgcircFyk4/Zarin+Alexandrowna.JPG (http://lh3.ggpht.com/_QSV8hW-NBww/SbGUC2ZSXvI/AAAAAAAAA4M/IDgcircFyk4/Zarin+Alexandrowna.JPG)

Mrs. Marjorie Johnson

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_QSV8hW-NBww/SbGRD4c5L7I/AAAAAAAAA3E/Ojwv6p-dT7s/Mrs+Marjorie+Johnston_San+Francisco.JPG (http://lh6.ggpht.com/_QSV8hW-NBww/SbGRD4c5L7I/AAAAAAAAA3E/Ojwv6p-dT7s/Mrs+Marjorie+Johnston_San+Francisco.JPG)

Still not working ;-(
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on May 18, 2009, 06:08:11 PM
I found this picture of Archduchess Blanca and her eldest sons. In the back you can see Koppay's painting of Maria Immaculata. Maybe the one in the round frame is a work of Koppay, too?

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/mariasophia1841/blanca_soehne01.jpg)
[/quote]

Yes, it's the same painting!! I haven't seen the second one
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on June 01, 2009, 07:57:46 PM
One more (Marjorie Johnson)

http://images.google.com.mx/imgres?imgurl=http://lh6.ggpht.com/_QSV8hW-NBww/SbGRD4c5L7I/AAAAAAAAA3E/Ojwv6p-dT7s/Mrs%2BMarjorie%2BJohnston_San%2BFrancisco.JPG&imgrefurl=http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/uz9slQPjJJWj2C-zG-95zA&usg=__lmFVTlsIHTITNkIQC4oBREANAkc=&h=1536&w=924&sz=10&hl=es&start=45&um=1&tbnid=LAoS4ivbi9mf-M:&tbnh=150&tbnw=90&prev=/images%3Fq%3DJoszi%2BArpad%2BKoppay%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Des%26sa%3DN%26start%3D36%26um%3D1 (http://images.google.com.mx/imgres?imgurl=http://lh6.ggpht.com/_QSV8hW-NBww/SbGRD4c5L7I/AAAAAAAAA3E/Ojwv6p-dT7s/Mrs%2BMarjorie%2BJohnston_San%2BFrancisco.JPG&imgrefurl=http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/uz9slQPjJJWj2C-zG-95zA&usg=__lmFVTlsIHTITNkIQC4oBREANAkc=&h=1536&w=924&sz=10&hl=es&start=45&um=1&tbnid=LAoS4ivbi9mf-M:&tbnh=150&tbnw=90&prev=/images%3Fq%3DJoszi%2BArpad%2BKoppay%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Des%26sa%3DN%26start%3D36%26um%3D1)
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: beladona on December 08, 2009, 02:33:29 PM
Another portraits fromy Koppay:
beautiful Sophie Chotek

(http://www.btinternet.com/~J.Pasteur/Images/Sophie.jpg)


Count Albert Mensdorff-Pouilly-Dietrichstein

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_QSV8hW-NBww/SbGNjTzbTGI/AAAAAAAAA2M/bu4zLJOwJ7s/s512/Graf%20Mensdorff-Boully-Dietrichstein.JPG)
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on December 12, 2009, 04:27:25 PM
I haven't seen this portrait of Sophie Choteck before, she looks very well on it ;-)
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 29, 2010, 02:59:32 PM
Painted by Koppay in 1902, four years after the Empress' death
(http://s601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/SisiBlack.jpg)
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Svetabel on August 09, 2011, 04:37:32 AM
Archduchess Maria Theresia

(http://i54.tinypic.com/260bgy1.jpg)
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Zukunftsseele on August 15, 2011, 06:18:42 PM
Ludwig II

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/zukunftsseele/Ludwig_auf_dem_Totenbett_Koppay.jpg)

Emperor Karl of Austria

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/zukunftsseele/Koppay-Joseph-Arpad-A-Portrait-Of-Kaiser-Karl-Archduke-Of-Austria.jpg)

Archduchess Stephanie

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/zukunftsseele/archduchess_stephanie_apfxp.jpg)

Count and Countess Lonyay

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/zukunftsseele/fest031.jpg)  (http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/zukunftsseele/fest030.jpg)
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 15, 2011, 07:12:54 PM
Are you sure that s Karl? it doesnt look at all like him
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Zukunftsseele on August 16, 2011, 04:27:04 AM
All sources say it's Karl, no matter where you look for it.

I found another image that looks a bit similar where the boy is said to be a son of Leopold Salvator. Who could it be?
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/zukunftsseele/SohndesErzherzogsLeopoldSalvator.jpg)
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: dboro on August 10, 2012, 09:28:37 PM

Count and Countess Lonyay

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/zukunftsseele/fest031.jpg)  (http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/zukunftsseele/fest030.jpg)

Countess Lónyay means here Archduchess Stephanie...
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Marc on August 11, 2012, 02:41:06 AM

Countess Lónyay means here Archduchess Stephanie...

Yes,but probably at the time the portraits were painted they were Count and Countess Lónyay(later Prince and Princess) and she stopped being an Archduchess when she married the Count...
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: dboro on August 11, 2012, 09:16:59 AM
Another portrait of Empress Elisabeth by Koppay.

(http://www.bildarchivaustria.at/Bildarchiv//BA/858/B9305772T9305777.jpg)
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 14, 2012, 01:07:33 PM
What nice, I didn't know that this wonderful portrait was made by Arpad Koppay!! Here in color and bigger:
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Palace/BlackLady.jpg)
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: dboro on August 14, 2012, 03:48:49 PM
What nice, I didn't know that this wonderful portrait was made by Arpad Koppay!! Here in color and bigger:
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Palace/BlackLady.jpg (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Palace/BlackLady.jpg)

Sadly, the original painting's location is unknown, and the colour version is only a hand coloured photograph...
Lower right corner of it:

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/koppay.jpg)
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 18, 2012, 04:42:17 PM
Sadly, the original painting's location is unknown, and the colour version is only a hand coloured photograph...
Lower right corner of it:

Thank you for the close up with Koppay´s signature! I thought that it was the original verssion of the painting, is a great pity to know that it really isn't. I expect that it is simply lost and one day it can be found as many other portraits, in the worst of the cases it was destroyed by the wars and it would be a great lost!  :(
Title: Re: Joszi Arpad Koppay
Post by: Marc on November 30, 2012, 07:31:20 PM
Portrait of the woman with diadem:

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/koppay.jpg)

No year or identity so far :(