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Title: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Maria_Romanov_fan on December 12, 2004, 08:11:26 PM
In your own opinion, who is the most beautiful out of OTMA. I've heard alot of different things about the topic on different threads and I just wanted to know what everyone thought.   :)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on December 12, 2004, 08:17:15 PM
I think the prettest Grand Duchess is Elizabeth Feodorevna, " Grand Duchess Sergey".
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Maria_Romanov_fan on December 12, 2004, 08:24:23 PM
Oh yes she is pretty!  :) But what's your favorite of OTMA?
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on December 12, 2004, 08:25:59 PM
Thats a hard one, I think the prettest is Maria Nikolaievna.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 12, 2004, 10:12:37 PM
Am I the only one who thinks discussions like this are superficial and weightless?
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dashkova on December 12, 2004, 10:18:16 PM
No, and I don't think you're the only one by a long shot.  But it seems to be inevitable, as there have been several other threads that discuss this extremely *important* topic  ::)  It's too bad that those who wish to take it up *yet again* don't do a search for those threads first!

I know where this always leads, too..."Isn't Nicky cute?"

Oh well, it shouldn't be anything important, but some people just have this need to compare looks. To what end, I have *no* idea.

My only comment with regard to looks is that Olga, your photo is lovely.  :)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: JD on December 12, 2004, 10:50:23 PM
Now, this is extraordinarily ironic, on a couple levels.
http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=revolution;act ion=display;num=1102295071;start=0

Read through a few pages, and you'll see how it turned into a not dissimilar gushfest (starring who else but one of the above complainants), and that, when I had a problem with some things on that thread, was told in so many words to "p- off" by the other of the above users. So let's sit back and listen as we're told how that thread was a "parody" and that Dashkova is "trolling" (as she would and did have it when I took issue with a development in that thread) because she wants to "show us how annoying it is when we do it". Or something.  

Anyway, Maria. She seems to get ignored due to Olga (the oldest), Tatiana (the most exotic), and Anastasia (obvious).  Which is a shame.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 12, 2004, 10:56:12 PM
Spasiba, Dashkulya!  ;D :-*

JD, let's not get into a discussion about the threads over in the Russian Revolution section. Yes, it did start as a parody, but we were discussing the intellectual pursuits of various lefties aswell.

Back to topic.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: JD on December 12, 2004, 10:57:47 PM
I'm not talking about the threads in the RR section. I'm talking about yours and Dash's hypocritical behavior in THIS thread.

So back to topic, indeed.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: JD on December 12, 2004, 10:59:06 PM
And, btw, I don't buy the parody argument as the thread starter was later BANNED for referring to one of the women pictured with some very strong and, some would say, demeaning sexual terminology.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Lanie on December 12, 2004, 11:32:41 PM
I agree such discussions are superficial.  Who cares?  And I'm sure there are other threads on this "ever so important issue".   ::)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dashkova on December 12, 2004, 11:36:43 PM
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Spasiba, Dashkulya!  ;D :-*



Dobre dehn, Olga, or I should say, dobre ootrah to you, da?

Yes, it is too bad someone saw fit to start yet another of these threads on "who's the cutest", but then again, it certainly gave us an inspiration on the Revolution threads, didn't it?  In our case, it led to more intellectual discussions about our fave historical figures.

I kind of *doubt* that will happen in this thread, but we'll have to wait and see!
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dashkova on December 12, 2004, 11:37:35 PM
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I agree such discussions are superficial.  Who cares?  And I'm sure there are other threads on this "ever so important issue".   ::)


Hi Lanie. Yes, there's at least a couple others.  They all kind of say the same thing, though...like, word for word  :-/  It's a little disturbing...lol.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 13, 2004, 12:00:31 AM
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Dobre dehn, Olga, or I should say, dobre ootrah to you, da?


Dobri den'.  :)

Dobri vyecher to you?
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dashkova on December 13, 2004, 12:17:06 AM
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Dobri den'.  :)

Dobri vyecher to you?


Da :)  But past my bedtime...last horrid week of an agonizing semester...

Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: JD on December 13, 2004, 12:42:42 AM
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Dobre dehn, Olga, or I should say, dobre ootrah to you, da?

Yes, it is too bad someone saw fit to start yet another of these threads on "who's the cutest", but then again, it certainly gave us an inspiration on the Revolution threads, didn't it?  In our case, it led to more intellectual discussions about our fave historical figures.

I kind of *doubt* that will happen in this thread, but we'll have to wait and see!


Except that as soon as anyone starts going against the choir, you want them silenced.  I don't call that "intellectual".   That thread, except for the areas in which I tried to honestly debate you about certain issues, was a gushfest - the fact that occasionally one of you would use more or bigger words doesn't negate that fact.  And I again have to question what you're doing here if you have such problems with the "mixing" between these "factions" as you suggested when I dared to contradict the consensus of the RR thread.  Your "this is a Russian History board" excuse could work there, but it won't here.

Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dashkova on December 13, 2004, 06:37:53 AM
Olga i Lanie, schto ti dymaesh?
The GD's were all the prettiest, in their own ways, don't you think?  It's rather like comparing apples and oranges.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 13, 2004, 06:47:44 AM
Da, Dashkulya, ya soglashayus'. Oni byli vsye ochen' krasiviye.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Louise on December 13, 2004, 07:25:34 AM
Maria and Maria, this topic has been discussed in previous posts. If you use the search button you can find the discussion. You can also privately mail each other PM to talk about how pretty the GD were. There are also topics on how they dressed, their hair color etc. Hope that helps you both out.

Olga and Dashkova, if you take the time and check the personal information of both of these young ladies you will see that they are just that; young girls, and are very new to the board. Try a bit of understanding and patience with them instead of snippy comments. At least these two kids are showing an interest in history and learning

Louise
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 13, 2004, 07:31:18 AM
I'm a young girl too!  :)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dashkova on December 13, 2004, 07:50:45 AM
The prettiest aspect of the GD's was their wit, humor, and depth of character.  Do other posters in this thread see those qualities shine through, even in photos?
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 13, 2004, 07:54:13 AM
Definitely.  :)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: rskkiya on December 13, 2004, 08:13:48 AM
   I am not going to make any serious remarks about who was the most atrractive one (insert icon of face wincing here!)  I have to agree that this topic seems to have been beaten to death in other threads - but thats just me!
  Nevertheless, I will say that I have been told Maria N. looked the most Russian (had a "Russian Beauty") - whatever that means- but as this topic is not my cup of assam I will toddle off now!

JD -- if you don't agree with my dear friends Olya and Dashkova, simply say "I disagree" and thats all that you need to do...OK? 8)

dasvidanya
rskkiya
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 13, 2004, 08:20:34 AM
Spasiba, rskkiya.  ;)

JD, if you have a beef with Dashkova or I, please continue it through private messages. That's all I have to say.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Michelle on December 13, 2004, 10:54:18 AM
Olga Olga Olga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Gorgeous Gorgeous Gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o  She's my favorite as far as the looks go, but I do also really love Tatiana's and Maria's beauty as well.

You know, that IS a very good question--why are Dashkova and Co. on THIS particular thread, like they accused many who went over on THEIR threads of doing for no reason.  I think I can smell some trouble brewing......... :P :P :P  Lanie's right--who cares?  It's a trivial little topic, however most enjoyable.  It's not important, so guys, stop having such hissy fits.  Calm down and drink some nice warm milk, or else pop in some prescription Prozac or Ritalin. ;)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dashkova on December 13, 2004, 11:57:40 AM
I think that in keeping with the focus on the GD's character, it is sometimes interesting to contemplate the beauty that had no chance to develop, the beauty as they moved into the full bloom of womanhood,
... the sensual beauty of a lover,
....that of a new mother,
....the beauty that would have come out of surviving their ordeal,
...the poignant beauty of those who have loved and lost,
....the beauty that they would have retained, expressed in other ways, as they grew older, wiser, and hopefully well-loved.
These are just some of the varieties of true beauty, and the ones that count.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: grandduchess_sofia on December 13, 2004, 12:20:47 PM
Poor little nastya no-one ever thinks of her when discussing there beauty however, it isn't really one the most important characteristics. Although it is kind off proven that people do judge people on their looks first.

sopski
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dashkova on December 13, 2004, 12:42:02 PM
I quite agree, I think everyone does that first, but when it comes to the GD's, their story is so well-known, their photos so familiar, even to children these days (and then as well, since they were something of the "superstar" nature, in early 20th century terms), it can only be hoped that the majority have moved past that, since other things about these lovely young ladies are FAR more interesting than how they *looked* at any given point.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Elisabeth on December 13, 2004, 12:47:38 PM
Picking up on something Sofia mentioned... Has anyone here read the anthropologist Nancy Etcoff's book, "Survival of the Prettiest: The Science of Beauty" (Anchor, 2000)? It demonstrates that our idea of what constitutes "beauty" is biologically predetermined. For example,  symmetrical, neotenic features (neotenic = childlike; e.g. big eyes, small nose) are universally  prized, especially in women. By that standard, Maria Nikolaevna was without question the most beautiful of the grand duchesses. If you look at pictures of her when her head was shaved, after having measles, you can see that she had the most regular, symmetrical features of all the grand duchesses. As a result, she looks every bit as pretty bald as she does with hair.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dashkova on December 13, 2004, 12:55:00 PM
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Picking up on something Sofia mentioned... Has anyone here read the anthropologist Nancy Etcoff's book, "Survival of the Prettiest: The Science of Beauty" (Anchor, 2000)? It demonstrates that our idea of what constitutes "beauty" is biologically predetermined. For example,  symmetrical, neotenic features (neotenic = childlike; e.g. big eyes, small nose) are universally  prized, especially in women. By that standard, Maria Nikolaevna was without question the most beautiful of the grand duchesses. If you look at pictures of her when her head was shaved, after having measles, you can see that she had the most regular, symmetrical features of all the grand duchesses. As a result, she looks every bit as pretty bald as she does with hair.


Oh yes, I've heard of this study (though still have my doubts about anthropology as a science)! Fascinating stuff.  As the natural possesser of both those qualities (along with symetric features), I guess I qualify!!  ;D

But truly, I think *most* people do, if that theory is true, it is more likely that anthropologically/historically speaking, the women with those qualities were more likely to be valued and desirable for breeding purposes...and those of us living today are the results! (Well, for the most part...and of course nowadays those who don't naturally have some of those features can *buy* them and then reap the benefits should they chose!)
Thanks for bringing this up, it is fascinating food for thought.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Elisabeth on December 13, 2004, 01:00:56 PM
Actually, Dashkova, this is Etcoff's main point, that our notion of beauty is based on principles of fecundity and fertility, especially our notions of feminine beauty. For example, women with a certain hip to waist ratio are considered more desirable than others. Of course I, too, have my doubts whether anthropology is really "scientific" or not. (I think, perhaps, too often not!) However, in terms of studying other cultures, and finding these universal "standards" of symmetry, - this is very interesting and perfectly plausible information.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dashkova on December 13, 2004, 01:06:56 PM
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Actually, Dashkova, this is Etcoff's main point, that our notion of beauty is based on principles of fecundity and fertility, especially our notions of feminine beauty. For example, women with a certain hip to waist ratio are considered more desirable than others. Of course I, too, have my doubts whether anthropology is really "scientific" or not. (I think, perhaps, too often not!) However, in terms of studying other cultures, and finding these universal "standards" of symmetry, - this is very interesting and perfectly plausible information.


Well, yes of course, actually, I knew about the hip/waist ratio thing, (a bummer for us narrow-hipped sorts, I suppose, and definitely why I remembered that part of the study) but the notions of beauty, as you stated previousy are *also* related to facial symmetry as well.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Elisabeth on December 13, 2004, 01:12:53 PM
I meant facial symmetry to begin with, so I'm being unnecessarily confusing, I suppose. But I find the most convincing parts of Etcoff's study to be related to neotenic and symmetrical facial features as a universally recognized standard of beauty. It makes evolutionary sense, in terms of our need as a species to protect the youngest and most vulnerable members of our tribe.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: JD on December 13, 2004, 02:10:00 PM
Olga, I don't delude myself into thinking that you or she would actually reply, so I have to resort to publically chiding you when you exhibit such deeply hypocritical behavior as this.  However, since you've both turned to constructive criticism instead of insults and eye-rolling, I no longer have any problem.  
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dashkova on December 13, 2004, 02:12:47 PM
Thanks so much to those who have joined the thread and made this more of a discussion of substance instead of the   ::)shallow "tee hee...who's the prettiest one of all" approach!
Depth of character and the scientific infinitely more appropriate!
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: rskkiya on December 13, 2004, 06:34:51 PM
Hello!
I popped in to this topic and to my joy found an insiteful discussion on the psychological/sociological notion of beauty... Wonderful stuff!

rskkiya

Michelle, we know that you prefer Olga N. --  but were your comments about "Ritalin" really neccessary? Please reconsider the inplications of this statement!
   I hope that this was just a "typing error!"

Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dashkova on December 13, 2004, 06:49:23 PM
That would be nice Rskkiya dearest, but what works best is ignore, ignore,ignore.  
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: rskkiya on December 13, 2004, 06:52:27 PM
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Olga, I don't delude myself into thinking that you or she would actually reply, so I have to resort to publically chiding you when you exhibit such deeply hypocritical behavior as this.  However, since you've both turned to constructive criticism instead of insults and eye-rolling, I no longer have any problem.  


 JD-- I don't think that Olga is here right now, the topic was not of too much interest to her - as you may have guessed...  :-X
Perhaps you ought to PM all your public comments to her directly? OK?

rsk

Hello Dashkova!
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Merrique on December 13, 2004, 06:58:05 PM
I think everyone can plainly see that all four of the Grand Duchesses were beautiful in their own way,just like we all are.But I must say I like they way this thread is heading,focusing more on their inner beauty,and like Dashkova said,their wit, humor, and depth of character.Those things appeal to me more as a topic of discussion rather than what they looked like and who was the prettiest.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: rskkiya on December 13, 2004, 07:10:51 PM
Merrique...
Well said!  Dazzling Insite! 8)
  Could we ever know what their personal suffering and their love for each other might have created in the manner of spiritual or psychic beauty -- remember-- that I am no fan of NAOTMAA-- yet even I would have to consider their inner beauty along this topic!

rskkiya
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: JD on December 13, 2004, 08:34:08 PM
Rskkya, Olga directed a comment to me in this thread, and it seemed natural to write back in the same forum.  I've offered to take this private before and was rejected, but I can assure you that if you or anyone else would send me a PM, you would get reply.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 14, 2004, 02:35:42 AM
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{Michelle -- Perhaps you ought to reconsider this last post ... (quoted above) as it suggests a certain hyperbolic immaturity which I am certain you do not mean to suggest... Accusations of someone needing Ritalin--that seems a bit uncalled for!


I agree. Michelle, I find your comments about people needing to take Prozac or Ritalin tasteless, offensive and rude. As someone who takes prescription antidepressants, I think that you do not fully understand what is involved with the taking of such medications. Please alter your post.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Forum Admin on December 14, 2004, 09:47:54 AM
"public" chiding or berating or belittling of an individual is not "on topic" posting. Good Lord, we can't even have a discussion of which is "the prettiest GD" without public battle of egos.

Why can't some people simply be adult enough to "rise above" and ignore?
Im getting fed up with all of the "usual suspects"...and you all know who you are. Get my drift?
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: JD on December 14, 2004, 10:39:12 AM
You're right of course, but occasionally people need to be called on things, publicly or not...as I'm sure you know.  ;)

I think a productive discussion sprung up from Dashkova's and Olga's presence after they ceased the name-calling so hopefully that's a lesson learned for the future.  As for the unhappy sideshow, that has quite clearly petered out...for now.  ;)

I'll do my best to ignore Dashkova when she's in her more testy moods, but in this instance I thought it best to let everyone else know that "I'm taking her seriously so they don't have to".  As it turned out, it probably wasn't necessary, so I've learned my lesson as well.  I'll just sit back and watch next time.

:)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 14, 2004, 10:43:42 AM
JD, you're the one who is continuing this. Please desist.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: JD on December 14, 2004, 10:44:34 AM
 ???
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: otmafan on December 14, 2004, 10:50:54 AM
I think that Marie was the prettiest of the sisters, yet they were all very beautiful. Marie had beautiful eyes, and I like her personality.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dashkova on December 14, 2004, 11:00:40 AM
Ok, so you think she was the "prettiest",  ::) but thankfully displayed deeper thought by finishing up with a mention of liking her personality.

Why not be more specific?  Or was that comment just a sort of disclaimer.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: otmafan on December 14, 2004, 11:05:34 AM
No, its not a disclaimer. Of all I have read I think that Marie was definitely the prettiest not only in looks but in personality as well. She was so nice to her sisters. She knew all of the officers and their families. She showed a personal interest in her father's subjects that showed she was very compassionate and loving.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: JD on December 14, 2004, 11:07:10 AM
She was also the prettiest, as proven by science.  ;) No need to be ashamed.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dashkova on December 14, 2004, 11:09:08 AM
Yes, Maria seemed to have been the most sensitive (of her own feelings and those of all others, no matter what rank) of the sisters, and the kindest -- both traits of true beauty, as opposed to the shallow kind.

As a person with a strong interest and background in art history, I certainly am captivated by the power of images, including those of beauty.  But it is what those images represent that matters, and is what is ultimately beautiful, or otherwise.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Janet_W. on December 14, 2004, 12:09:51 PM
"Pretty," to quote the old truism, is in the eye of the beholder, and can be accomplished by youth, luck, and cosmetics.

As has been pointed out in several previous and eloquent posts, to cultivate a beauty of the soul is by far the greater accomplishment.

And BTW, I find it interesting that people can become so unattractive arguing over who is "pretty."

Hmm!   :o  ;)


Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Janet_W. on December 14, 2004, 02:06:06 PM
rskkyia, thank you for asking, but it's a general comment . . . and not just for this particular thread, but for quite a few others as well!  :o

If I wanted to single out anyone, I'd send a private message. That was the way I operated when I was a teacher . . . general rules were laid down to everyone, but whenever possible I spoke quietly and one-to-one with individuals. I'm not a big believer in group shamings--I witnessed too many teachers using and abusing that tactic.

Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: rskkiya on December 14, 2004, 03:00:49 PM
Dashkova
I have reposted my comment --I have also PMed you about it ...not important at all darling...

How is hell week? ;D
I assure you it's no easier from the other side of the podium! :D
rskkiya
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on December 14, 2004, 03:25:06 PM
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Da, Dashkulya, ya soglashayus'. Oni byli vsye ochen' krasiviye.


What spelling is this, is it Russian?

It a pity I only know how to speak and write in english.

I wish I can learn to speak and write in Russian :)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: rskkiya on December 14, 2004, 04:31:26 PM
MP  :)
It's russian - but as some folks don't have cyrrilic fonts it's been adapted into the roman {latin} alphabet...

*Olga loves to make these off-hand comments, thus she causes us all to wish to be better speakers of that lovely language!*

rskkiya  ;D
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 14, 2004, 05:15:10 PM
"Da, Dashkulya, ya soglashayus'. Oni byli vsye ochen' krasiviye."

"Yes, Dashkulya, I agree. They were all very beautiful".
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 14, 2004, 07:32:01 PM
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*Olga loves to make these off-hand comments, thus she causes us all to wish to be better speakers of that lovely language!*


Da, Rskkiya, eto pravda. Izuchaitye russki yazyk!
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Michelle on December 14, 2004, 08:38:31 PM
Just for the record, Olga, I also take antidepressants ever since my long bout with anorexia nervosa, so yes, I most certainly DO know the implications of taking that sort of medication.  

But anyhow, I'd LOVE to hear more of this scientific beauty discussion!  It's absolutely fascinating!!!! :D So we know that Maria had the neo-whatever look which is the scientifically most beautiful, but what is Olga's, Tatiana's and Anastasia's look?  Do they have a cool scientific name for their looks too?  I also have to kind of agree with Janet W.--beauty definitely IS in the eye of the beholder.  Considering I prefer Olga's more classical china doll face and slim figure to Maria's looks (however she of course was also a very beautiful girl--they ALL were), I am going against the "scientific" expected preference.  Perhaps Olga was "scientifically" the second prettiest since she looked the most like Maria.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 14, 2004, 08:50:11 PM
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Just for the record, Olga, I also take antidepressants ever since my long bout with anorexia nervosa, so yes, I most certainly DO know the implications of taking that sort of medication.


Then if you do take them, you should the implcations of such medications, and that they are NOT something to be joked about.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 14, 2004, 08:53:01 PM
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Da, Rskkiya, eto pravda. Izuchaitye russki yazyk!


Yes, Rskkiya, this is true. Learn the Russian language!   ;D
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 14, 2004, 08:56:16 PM
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Then if you do take them, you should the implcations of such medications, and that they are NOT something to be joked about.


Olga, to be fair, I don't think Michelle meant to make fun, she probably just said it without thinking about the implications... that's the impression I got anyway. Give her a break.   :)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 14, 2004, 08:56:37 PM
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Yes, Rskkiya, this is true. Learn the Russian language!   ;D


Spasiba, Lena! Vy takaya umna!
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 14, 2004, 08:58:26 PM
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Spasiba, Lena! Vy takaya umna!
It seems that I have become your official interpretor  ;)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 14, 2004, 09:03:17 PM
Da, dlya lyudei, kotoriye nyeh znayut, chtoby govorit' po-russki!

Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 14, 2004, 09:08:48 PM
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Da, dlya lyudei, kotoriye nyeh znayut, chtoby govorit' po-russki!

Yes, for the people who don't know how to speak Russian!
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Michelle on December 14, 2004, 09:09:32 PM
Thank you, Helen. :)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: rskkiya on December 14, 2004, 09:10:14 PM
Helen thanks for the update... my own understanding of Russian is so minimal that unless darling Olga is very parient I cannot keep up with her ...
Shto, shto, preshtije... Ya plocka gavradyu parysskii! Ya Nepanimayu!

{what... what,  forgive me...I don't speak very much russian! I don't understand!}

Olya I promise to practice! ;)

  Regarding the science of beauty and the symetry issue [a face with very balanced features] --  in the extream such appearances can look rather disturbing (a computer generated "mock up" of a perfectly balanced face once struck me as fearful!) Nevertheless I don't think that anyone here is suggesting that the other daughters were not attractive ...Maybe thats not really the point --  I thought that we were moving onto a new theory, one if of "psychic" emotional or inner beauty.

rskkiya
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Michelle on December 14, 2004, 09:12:45 PM
But I'd still like to know what the scientific names and backgrounds I guess you could say of the other GD's looks were.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: rskkiya on December 14, 2004, 09:15:01 PM

Michelle
I sent you a PM message about Tatianna, did you get it?

rskkiya
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Lanie on December 14, 2004, 09:15:17 PM
Here's an interesting link I found regarding the stereotypes of 'beauty'.

http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/index.htm
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 14, 2004, 09:23:28 PM
I once saw a documentary about how humans perceive beauty - I think it was on the Discovery channel or TLC, and they also talked about facial feature symmetry and how small babies found that attractive. They said that small babies tended to stare more at faces that everyone else considered attractive... Which means, they theorized, that this is something innate and not acquired.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: rskkiya on December 14, 2004, 09:28:22 PM
Ohhh Dear...
Could this have anything to do with the need to choose good reproductive partners?

rskkiya
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 14, 2004, 09:41:52 PM
That first face on the page Lanie posted - I think it's rather plain and dull.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 14, 2004, 09:47:10 PM
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Ohhh Dear...
Could this have anything to do with the need to choose good reproductive partners?

rskkiya
Yes,  I think this is what they were getting at  ;)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 14, 2004, 09:51:36 PM
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That first face on the page Lanie posted - I think it's rather plain and dull.


I was just looking at that website too. I thought that face you are talking about just looked like an average, run of the mill face, the kind that you see very often everywhere. I wonder why it was judged to be the most attractive  ???
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: rskkiya on December 14, 2004, 09:52:03 PM
Olya
Good point ...Although many people might agree that "having an intact nose" causes one to be more attractive than "not having a nose"...Some of this may be somewhat more subjective
To those good souls discussing the theories behind the science of beauty please do chime in with insites!

Example-- I prefere men with beards. My spouse has a beard --however noone in my family has ever had a beard and I don't remember anyone from my past with a beard... Did I have some subconcious desire for a bearded man/was it novelty or was it a more biological hormonal drive?

rskkiya
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 14, 2004, 09:58:17 PM
Hey, I didn't say I agreed with these theories, I just recounted what they said on the show!  :D
To be honest I don't really believe these theories, because I know that everyone perceives things in different ways. On the website that Lanie posted, the faces that everyone picked as most attractive don't even exist in real life, they were all computer generated! It's a very interesting website actually.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: rskkiya on December 14, 2004, 10:01:50 PM
Helen A
So sorry! I didn't mean to pin you to a corner like that...These posts are comming thick and fast and I am not a very clever typist...ACCKK!

rskkiya
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: JD on December 14, 2004, 10:04:44 PM
I find that face very attractive, as well as the male one...Are you sure it's not the butch cut that's not doing it for you?  :P
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 14, 2004, 10:05:51 PM
It's ok, Rskkiya.

Another example from that website was when they showed the female and male attractive faces and unattractive faces. Their example of the male unattractive face - I didn't think it was unattractive at all, so I am not even sure how they figured that...
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: JD on December 14, 2004, 10:07:47 PM
Yeah neither of them were terribly unattractive, especially the male on, which if anything was kind of good looking? I'll leave that decision to the females here. ;)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 14, 2004, 10:09:26 PM
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I find that face very attractive, as well as the male one...Are you sure it's not the butch cut that's not doing it for you?  :P


It is not unattractive, but not so amazingly attractive either. The male face that was judged most attractive looks more attractive than the female one, the latter just looks more average to me than the male (but I am not trying to say that it's ugly).
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 14, 2004, 10:12:36 PM
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Yeah neither of them were terribly unattractive, especially the male on, which if anything was kind of good looking? I'll leave that decision to the females here. ;)


Well, I would say that the female "unattractive" face was kind of unattractive, but the male "unattractive" face was still attractive.

But we are really digressing from the topic now!  ;D
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: JD on December 14, 2004, 10:13:14 PM
I agree that the female face isn't "stunning", but then, I doubt very many are without makeup or "attractive" hairstyles.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: JD on December 14, 2004, 10:14:15 PM
Well there's only so much one can say about the main topic...This would've been best as a poll really.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: rskkiya on December 14, 2004, 10:14:40 PM
Hello
Well this site is very interesting-- but the only point that I have noticed after about three seconds of detailed examination  ;)(LOL) is that all of the "attractive" faces seem to be oval in shape

(Olya! they all look like you! :-* :-*)

rskkiya

Michelle... what did you think?
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 14, 2004, 10:16:24 PM
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Well there's only so much one can say about the main topic...This would've been best as a poll really.


I guess you're right.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 14, 2004, 11:05:22 PM
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(Olya! they all look like you! :-* :-*)


They do?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/Praskoviya/w57-64_kl.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/Praskoviya/olgaforums56.jpg)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 14, 2004, 11:13:09 PM
I thought most of the faces on that site were plain, neither attractive nor unattractive.

Some I consider VERY attractive....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/Kollontai.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/ar2_1.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Revolution/1897Portrait17.jpg)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 14, 2004, 11:14:53 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Tori%20Amos/supermodel.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Tori%20Amos/ToriAmos.jpg)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 14, 2004, 11:25:01 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Bling%20bling/Windsors/princessmarina.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/humour/scott.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Praskovia/Tori%20Amos/t-book.jpg)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: JD on December 15, 2004, 12:19:12 AM
Please tell me that last guy isn't the bit actor who played, among other tiny roles, one of the hotel snob-villains in Home Alone 2.

Who is the actor in the middle of the last post?
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on December 15, 2004, 12:45:34 AM
Michael Palin (top) and Tim Curry.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 15, 2004, 06:57:41 AM
Who's the lady with a tiara?
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 15, 2004, 07:00:26 AM
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Please tell me that last guy isn't the bit actor who played, among other tiny roles, one of the hotel snob-villains in Home Alone 2.

 
 He is most famous for his role as "Dr Frank-n-Furter" in The Rocky Horror Picture Show   ;)
(http://img156.exs.cx/img156/5809/frankenfurter5wj.png)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: jackie3 on December 15, 2004, 07:42:06 AM
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That first face on the page Lanie posted - I think it's rather plain and dull.



Actually the first face is not that of a real person but a composite of a "beautiful" face made from faces in the Miss Germany beauty pageant - http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/missgermany/missgermany.htm. I remember reading about the scientific beauty thing in regards to Marilyn Monroe - that taken seperately her features weren't that special but put together she had just the right feature to face proportions to make her aesthetically pleasing to a majority of people who looked at her.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: rskkiya on December 15, 2004, 08:18:42 AM
Jackie3  Great point!
   Ironically, today poor Marilyn would be considered too fat to be attractive...HAHA! Tell that to her male fans in the fifties and I'm certain they would disagree!

  Perhaps we may want to consider the fact that, although they all seem to have photographed well, what did these poor girls look like in person.
 I am still more interested in the notion that there is an inner beauty which transends outer appearances...

rskkiya
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: JD on December 15, 2004, 08:23:05 AM
Well I'd hope so, but you'd be lying to yourself if you said outer beauty didn't mean anything...right?
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Michelle on December 15, 2004, 08:28:20 AM
I have to agree with most everyone here that the faces on that website weren't all that special.  I especially didn't even find the male "attractive" face to be attractive.  He kind of just reminded me of an Al-Quada terrorist. :-/  So perhaps their study wasn't as true as they made it appear to be.  Since I think all of OTMA were MUCH prettier than any of those "attractive" faces on that website, I prefer their looks more.  I think they were much more naturally beautiful.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Helen_Azar on December 15, 2004, 08:29:58 AM
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On the website that Lanie posted, the faces that everyone picked as most attractive don't even exist in real life, they were all computer generated! It's a very interesting website actually.


Yes, that's what I mentioned earlier too, about the faces that were judged most attractive all being computer generated and not belonging to real people. That's because there is no such thing as a perfectly symmetrical face.
And yes, I agree that how people perceive someone's attractiveness subcosciously comes from a quality other than appearance alone and can't be conveyed through a photo.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Abby on December 15, 2004, 09:08:25 AM
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 I am still more interested in the notion that there is an inner beauty which transends outer appearances...

rskkiya



I think that definitley one's personality, and all the thoughts and actions which make up one's demeanor can negativley or positivley impact the way their beauty is seen to another. While many people are physically attractive, if they come off as crass and unfriendly and egotistical, that makes them seem a bit less attractive in my eyes, as apposed to someone who has less of a physical advantage but a warm personality and a witty sense of humor. Intellegence is also quite appealing ;)

But as JD said, you can't say outer beauty doesn't count for anything, because it is what first attracts others and gets our attention...but there has to be inner beauty that reveals itself as you get to know someone for you to be attracted to that person entirely. I think Maria Nicholaevna had the most physical beauty because her features are what society finds the most alluring-- the large eyes, full lips small nose and chin, oval face. It is what appeals to me but not for everyone. Many find Tatiana to be the most beautiful, with her almond shaped eyes and slightly more slender face. Or Olga, who had a "china doll" face and photogenic qualities.

I guess this proves again that beauty is in the eye of the beholder -- but you've got nothing if not the personality to go with the looks! And I think that is what makes the Grand Duchesses so attractive, as a whole, to us: that they were sensitive, generous and loving as well as beautiful.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Sunny on December 15, 2004, 09:18:00 AM
Abby, what a great post........."And I think that is what makes the Grand Duchesses so attractive, as a whole, to us: that they were sensitive, generous and loving as well as beautiful."...I couldn't agree more.

Sunny
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Val289 on December 15, 2004, 10:38:55 AM
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I think that definitley one's personality, and all the thoughts and actions which make up one's demeanor can negativley or positivley impact the way their beauty is seen to another. While many people are physically attractive, if they come off as crass and unfriendly and egotistical, that makes them seem a bit less attractive in my eyes, as apposed to someone who has less of a physical advantage but a warm personality and a witty sense of humor. Intellegence is also quite appealing ;)

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Abby - great insight!  I've always thought along these lines.  I think you've hit the nail on the head when you say: " I think that is what makes the Grand Duchesses so attractive, as a whole, to us: that they were sensitive, generous and loving as well as beautiful."...  The Grand Duchesses certainly seemed to be beautiful on the inside, and that (to me) it what makes them beautiful on the outside.

Olga - in many pictures comes across as being a sensitive, poetic soul.  Her classic features make her beautiful physically, but I think her inner beauty can really shine though.

Tatiana - You can really get a sense of her inner beauty in photographs too, and to me, her leadership skills are sometimes so evident in the way she carries herself.

Maria - If you look into her eyes, you can just see the depth of kindness she must have had, a lot like what people say about Nicholas' eyes.

Anastasia - Boy, can you ever tell she was the mischevious one !  She just has that sparkle to her eyes, you can tell she really enjoyed life, and loved to laugh.

Well, just my two cents anyway :)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Michelle on December 15, 2004, 10:55:13 AM
Abby and Val, I couldn't agree with you more!  Aside from Olga's physical beauty, I'm also attracted to her passionate and sensitive soul.  I'm very attracted to sensitive individuals (although they have to get my attention with their physical appearance first).
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Abby on December 15, 2004, 12:09:39 PM
I agree, Michelle. Sunny, Val and Michelle thanks for your compliments; I only regret that we could not have known the Grand Duchesses and judge for ourselves!
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Val289 on December 15, 2004, 12:21:19 PM
You're certainly welcome Abby!  It would have been very interesting (and probably entertaining!) to have had to chance to meet and converse with the Grand Duchesses......
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dasha on December 15, 2004, 04:42:28 PM
Great insights, Abby, Val, and Michelle.  Inner beauty counts so much more then outer, because looks fade and one's personality stays.  If the girls had a chance to live full lives, God only knows what they would have achieved.  They had so much to give, and it is a shame to say the least that the world never got a chance to know them.    

Dasha
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Yoyo on December 18, 2004, 03:13:28 PM
=Is the question shallow? Yes. But do we need to be so darn serious all the time? I was getting a manicure and pedicure yesterday, and suddenly this profound thought of extreme historical importance came through my head: what kind of beauty regime did the GD's have? I was going to post it on this forum, but don't worry, I won't because now I'm afraid I'll get pounded for being too shallow.
8)
Yoyo
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dashkova on December 18, 2004, 03:28:57 PM
Ummm, didn't you just do that?  Post the question, that is?   I, for one, think it's an interesting question to bring up and not really related to the "who's the cutest" fascination.

My understanding is that most ladies of the era did not commonly wear cosmetics, or at least, did not want it *known*.  I have also read where Max Factor made the GD's up for some of their portraits.  
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Elisabeth on December 18, 2004, 03:46:44 PM
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Yes, that's what I mentioned earlier too, about the faces that were judged most attractive all being computer generated and not belonging to real people. That's because there is no such thing as a perfectly symmetrical face.
And yes, I agree that how people perceive someone's attractiveness subcosciously comes from a quality other than appearance alone and can't be conveyed through a photo.


It's been demonstrated that the measurements of Greco-Roman statuary of the idealized "human" face (belonging to gods, goddesses, mythic heroes) are actually impossible to achieve in real life. These particular symmetries do not exist in the real world.

But if we were all neo-Platonists we would be saying that we are but shadows of an ideal supernal beauty existing beyond the mere human.

I don't think a discussion of beauty  need be superficial at all, since it has been a subject of debate for philosophers and artists throughout recorded history.  But Dashkova, I'm so very intrigued by the Max Factor question! Did the grand duchesses really have help from cosmetics?!
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Dashkova on December 18, 2004, 03:56:43 PM
I probably shouldn't even have posted that, because I really don't remember where I read it and having just put the last exhausting finishing touches on a crazy semester, I can't be bothered to try and locate it.

My own personal guess, based on a comparison of the GD's candid shots versus portraits, I would say they most certainly did benefit from some sort of cosmetics, not just photographic retouching.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Martyn on December 19, 2004, 04:44:19 AM
Cosmetics were certainly not new at the turn of the twentieth century and as someone very correctly said, discreet cosmetics were definitely part of royal and aristocratic ladies' lives.
There is a wonderful tale in Jehanne Wake's bio of Pcss Louise that describes Q.Victoria's irritation at a new aldy -in-waiting who appeared at court overly made up.  Ohter roylal ladies who were known to use make-up were Alix Pcss of Wales and the Empress Eugenie.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Czarevna Colleen on January 02, 2005, 08:30:10 PM
I think OTMA all had different qualities that made each of them unique and beautiful in their own way.  It's my way of saying they were all beautiful, but in different ways.  Not only in their facial and physical features, but in their personalities, their natures and their intelligence.  They were all lovely girls.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on February 12, 2005, 04:39:35 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks discussions like this are superficial and weightless?


Well Olga, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on February 13, 2005, 12:39:56 AM
Well Annie, if you thought that, then you would not have felt the need to pass judgement on my comments.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Michelle on February 17, 2005, 08:36:27 PM
Darth Olga, I don't see where Annie passed judgement on your comments. :-/
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga on February 18, 2005, 02:10:02 AM
She could have just read my comments and let them pass. It goes for you aswell.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Michelle on February 18, 2005, 07:48:59 AM
Don't be so touchy.  People can question others' comments.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: GD Alexandra on April 08, 2005, 07:48:24 PM
 ;) returning to the original topic.  By looking at all those OTMA pictures, it's so difficult to me to tell who's the prettiest. They were all beautifull. First place to all four (in early century beauty contest)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on April 09, 2005, 04:38:45 PM
I think Olga is the prettiest, followed by Tatiana, then Maria, and then Anastasia. OTM were very beautiful, but not really Anastasia. I'm not saying that she was ugly, but she didn't really compare to her sisters in looks.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: zoya_konstantinovna on May 29, 2005, 10:53:14 PM
i think maria and anastasia were hbu?

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Post by: Victoria_Romanov on May 29, 2005, 10:56:54 PM
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i think maria and anastasia were hbu?


I agree but I would add Olga in there as well also there Irina  :D
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Lanie on May 29, 2005, 11:40:55 PM
There are many threads discussing this.  For future reference look through everything before posting something new.  It's very annoying to a lot of us people.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: nerdycool on May 30, 2005, 01:49:49 AM
Oh boy...
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Victoria_Romanov on May 30, 2005, 01:55:46 AM
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Oh boy...


Whats wrong?  ???
Or did you not know who to chose?
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: nerdycool on May 30, 2005, 02:28:11 AM
No, that's not the problem at all. It's just that not but a week ago, a thread started with pretty much the same title over on the "Olga" thread, and some members (myself included) stated that the subject is overdone, is annoying, and is superficial. Not to be harsh or anything, but the search option is a great feature, yet it is so under-used! Even if one were to go back to the early pages of posts, they'd find numerous posts just like this one. Really, one is all we need. It's perfectly OK to add onto a thread if it is more than a week since the last post.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Victoria_Romanov on May 30, 2005, 03:10:05 AM
Oh I get it now thanks for explainig it to me  :D
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: lostfan on May 30, 2005, 07:13:13 PM
Well since the thread title is "Most Beautiful of the Romanovs" I think Irina Alexandrovna, Xenia's daughter, was quite a beauty.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: RealAnastasia on May 30, 2005, 07:36:38 PM
Olga Nicolaievna is the more beatiful, and very close to her was her sister GD Maria. Ella was very beatiful too.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Laura Mabee on May 30, 2005, 08:28:55 PM
I don't think beauty is a debatable subject, as beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  :)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Holly on May 30, 2005, 08:31:42 PM
I know all of you are going to question me on this on but I have always thought that Anastasia was the prettiest. Followed by Maria, Olga and Tatiana.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Michelle on May 30, 2005, 08:37:28 PM
How come you think so , Holly?  Just curious.  And btw, everyone already knows that I think Olga Nikolaevna was the most beautiful of the Romanovs.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Holly on May 30, 2005, 08:47:21 PM
I can't really explain why I think she is the most beautiful.  I think she has the best eyes out of all her sisters and the combination of all her facial features make her pretty. I honestly don't know why, but I do. Something about her makes her prettier than the rest of her sisters, but I don't know what it is.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Michelle on May 30, 2005, 08:48:53 PM
I know what you mean, Holly.  Sometimes I just can't explain why I think things either. ;)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Holly on May 30, 2005, 08:50:34 PM
 ;D I think I popped a membrane while I wrote that. ???
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: RealAnastasia on May 30, 2005, 09:18:14 PM
Well...I never thought that Anastasia was the more beatiful Romanov, but certainly she was beatiful INSIDE...And that's important too.  ;)

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Holly on May 30, 2005, 09:20:35 PM
Yes, that's true.  :D
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on May 30, 2005, 09:33:54 PM
I'm only gunna say this once, because it always just OTMA.

Aleksey Nikolayevich (BOY)

And

Yelisaveta Fyodorevna (GIRL)


I'm trying to spell their names in Russian style a bit. Well NOT in Russian for fact, but I hope you get the picture. ;)

Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: zoya_konstantinovna on May 30, 2005, 10:06:47 PM
well i feel kinda dumb bringin up this thread again cuz i was new and i had no clu wat to say lol but wats on the inside is DEFINATELY more important :)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Lanie on May 30, 2005, 10:24:58 PM
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I'm only gunna say this once, because it always just OTMA.

Aleksey Nikolayevich (BOY)

And

Yelisaveta Fyodorevna (GIRL)


I'm trying to spell their names in Russian style a bit. Well NOT in Russian for fact, but I hope you get the picture. ;)



Mandie--literally from Russian it's Feodorovna. ;)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Robert_Hall on May 30, 2005, 10:35:37 PM
Are there not already ENOUGH of these "most beautiful" threads ?
Have you nothing more interesting to  find out about the family ?
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Lanie on May 30, 2005, 10:58:42 PM
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Are there not already ENOUGH of these "most beautiful" threads ?
Have you nothing more interesting to  find out about the family ?


Alas, it doesn't seem that way, does it?  :-/
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Laura Mabee on May 31, 2005, 10:17:23 AM
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Are there not already ENOUGH of these "most beautiful" threads ?
Have you nothing more interesting to  find out about the family ?

Here Here! Let us Raise a Cup to Robert
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: RealAnastasia on May 31, 2005, 07:08:51 PM
Perhaps you are right in this, my freinds, but zoya_Konstantinovna is a newbie and she deserves a more cozy "welcome" than this one! I received one similar when I started the thread about Olga bieng more beatiful than Maria or somethime like this, and I didn't like it a BIT.  >:( Perhaps this is rude, but I felt that way. When a person is not interested in a thread, he/she doesn't participe in it and that's all. Being harsh with people is a bad thing, and much more to said to another that he/she is a stupid to post such messages.  >:( Since the Romanovs were (not  all of them, of coures) beatiful people, it's well that we discuss their beauty. Beauty is a part of life, beauty inside and outside. And I'm not ashamed to speak about Olga, Maria or Alexei beauty.

  We must think too, that when we are a newbie (like me some days ago) we wants to start a thread, and the most common about them is "Romanov's beauty". I get started with a thread about Olga's beauty, but after it, I started others much more serious (I hope so!  ;D). Don't said harsh things to people to make them run away!

 I don't know which Romanov is more beatiful , but I know that some people here is very ugly INSIDE. be nice with others. We are here to be so.

  RealAnastasia. :)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on May 31, 2005, 07:12:30 PM
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well i feel kinda dumb bringin up this thread again cuz i was new and i had no clu wat to say lol but wats on the inside is DEFINATELY more important :)


I do feel dump answering the question. ha. :P ;D
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on May 31, 2005, 07:13:32 PM
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Mandie--literally from Russian it's Feodorovna. ;)



AH NUTS! :P close though :P ;)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Robert_Hall on May 31, 2005, 08:10:53 PM
A simple browse through the " Welcome New Users " would  recommend a "SEARCH" of topics before posting. Thus eliminating duplicate threads.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: RussiaSunbeam1918 on May 31, 2005, 09:19:19 PM
Well, they were all beautiful inside (some more than others just like any family, but they were all beautiful inside.) I think Xenia and Alexei (in a handsome way) were quite good looking.....

I know there have been times when I repeated a post. It's not fun, so i'd reccomend search.  :-[ ;)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: zoya_konstantinovna on May 31, 2005, 09:25:55 PM
im sorry:(
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Tsarevna_Olga on June 01, 2005, 07:53:34 AM
I think Olga And MAria!But also Alexandra when she was young!
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: shadowfox4089 on June 02, 2005, 01:10:01 PM
how come no one has mentioned alexei he was beautiful too!
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Fawzia on June 02, 2005, 01:20:27 PM
Alexei really was, I think he would have turned into a very handsome man had the circumstances been different.  
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: zoya_konstantinovna on June 02, 2005, 06:31:04 PM
unfortunate as it is i guess we'll never know:(
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: russianlover76 on August 30, 2005, 07:47:04 PM
The grandduchess olga is the most prettiest of all her sister.Let her rest in peace :)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Margarita Markovna on August 30, 2005, 08:08:25 PM
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I think OTMA all had different qualities that made each of them unique and beautiful in their own way.  It's my way of saying they were all beautiful, but in different ways.  Not only in their facial and physical features, but in their personalities, their natures and their intelligence.  They were all lovely girls.



You have put it excellently.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Anastasia15 on August 31, 2005, 10:00:07 AM
No I think Anastasia was the prettiest,actually they were all pretty but I think Anastasia was the prettiest but Olga didn´t look so bad either.

Sorry, I´m from Germany, so I don´t know if I did any mistakes, if I did I apologize.

Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Laura Mabee on September 01, 2005, 09:19:59 PM
Not this again....  ::)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Georgiy on September 01, 2005, 09:39:20 PM
ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH!
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: RealAnastasia on September 01, 2005, 09:52:49 PM
Olga was the more beatiful of them, and then it's hard to me to pick between Tatiana and Maria. I'm however sure, that Anastasia was the ugliest of them four. She was beatiful INSIDE but her sisters are more pretty than her...I mean physically. Nevertheless, all us have our own ideas about this matter.  ;D

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on September 01, 2005, 10:04:27 PM
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I'm however sure, that Anastasia was the ugliest of them four.

RealAnastasia.



Ugly is a harsh word for "those" ( I ) to look like that Grand Duchess.  :-/

She wasen't ugly, she was just less pretty then her sisters. Plus it doesn't matter, sadly to say " THERE DIED!"
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Laura Mabee on September 02, 2005, 12:04:33 AM
Can we not lock this? Haven't we had enough of this discussion??
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Holly on September 02, 2005, 08:54:51 AM
AFHFADHADFHDBFGEAQGRYUIT!!!!
I am so sick of these pointless threads! They were all four very beautiful young women, inside and and out. They all had a different kind of beautiful and no one will have the same opinions. If you want to talk about these tiresome and trivial things then hit the little search button at the top of the page and search for the other  hundreds of the same topics! Why do I have to see new one every three months?!?
Holly
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Teddy on September 02, 2005, 10:11:30 AM
Is it really important to know who the prettiest GD was?

Sorry but some people in this world only look at how beautiful someone is at the outside..

What really matters is the inside.

Sorry but this thread is so.... :-X
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Harumi on September 02, 2005, 12:01:35 PM
I do not wish to get into a fight with anyone but may I suggest that those who find this tread annoying and/or pointless just ignore it, instead of posting nasty comments.

Maria, you who started this tread, I will say that beauty implies not only physical appearance but also charisma, personality, values and intelligence (both emotional and intellectual).

On that basis, I would say Tatiana was the most beautiful. In addition of her fine features and natural dignity, she was incredibly selfless, dedicated and generous. A beautiful soul.

But on the overall, Nicolas and Alix were blessed with four gracious daughters, all in their own way. So the choice is a hard one to make.  ;)
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Linnea on September 02, 2005, 02:20:13 PM
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Is it really important to know who the prettiest GD was?

Sorry but some people in this world only look at how beautiful someone is at the outside..

What really matters is the inside.

Sorry but this thread is so.... :-X


You are right, but if someone thinks this interesting/important, just let them discuss. Each to his own! Something I think is interesting to talk about, some might think boring/stupid etc  ;).
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Teddy on September 02, 2005, 03:12:41 PM
Thats not the point. There are too many of this kind of threads...

Its not that other may not discuss this, but almost 40% of the threads are so....

And many of them are double..
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Holly on September 02, 2005, 08:12:13 PM
Thank you Teddy!
I am in not against people stating there opinions. Why would I be on a forum if I was? It's not the fact that the thread is completely pointless and trivial, it's the fact that every three months there is the EXACT SAME THREAD POSTED AGAIN! And when they do, this is what happens! Once you are here for a while you will understand...
 All I'm asking is that new people actually read the rules BEFORE posting and try out the little search button at the top of the page BEFORE starting a new topic. This seems to happen with new people all the time and it gets frustrating.
                                                 Holly
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: lovy on December 21, 2005, 04:59:36 PM
i think olga is definitely the prettiest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go olga! ur gorgeous!

by da way, has anyone seen olga as a baby? she's so cute!
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Joy0318 on December 23, 2005, 06:57:11 PM
I think they were all  four lovely girls but if I have to make a choice here I'd have to go with Olga. I've always thought she was a cute little girl buut as she got older she was a beauty.

Title: The Prettiest?
Post by: FairyCutie86 on September 19, 2007, 06:43:09 PM
A lot of books make a big deal out of Olga and especially Tatiana being the most pretty or beautiful.  Personally, I always found Maria to be the prettiest for some reason.  Don't get me wrong, all the other girls are just as beautiful, but no one says anything about poor Maria.  What do you all think?
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: rosieposie on September 20, 2007, 07:46:39 AM
Honey, I know your a newbie.  This topic is very old.   Each member have their own thoughts on each sister's phsyical beauty.  They were ALL beautiful.

That is why no-one is replying to your thread. 

I don't know why so many keep going on about who was the prettiest in physical as well as mental.   

It just goes on and on and on.  I wish it would rest. I am sure most of the older members would agree.
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on September 20, 2007, 10:00:46 PM
I always find it annoying when books give an opinion over which girl was prettier. Especially when the book includes pictures, and you can just look and decide for yourself.
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: granduchess_leah on September 21, 2007, 04:29:21 PM
i agree no one is pretty or beautuiful we all are
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Joyann1 on September 22, 2007, 02:19:21 PM
yes your right

moest of the time when you start a tread like this not much people reply because they think its such a taboe question
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Holly on September 23, 2007, 02:41:48 PM
Why don't you all give the girl a break. If you don't like it, don't post here and it won't be here for long.
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Joyann1 on September 23, 2007, 03:56:07 PM
i dont say anything negative

the most people when they are new on the forum ask this question its a complete normal question
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Laura_ on September 23, 2007, 03:59:17 PM
Maria is my favourite too  ;)
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: RealAnastasia on September 24, 2007, 12:41:16 AM
I think we have no excuse to be rude to newbies just to ask as so normal question in the case of OTMA..all of them were beauties in their own. But debating which of them is the best one , is an innocent play. Of course, there will not be a definitive answer, and the asking is only an excuse to debate the sisters and their physical beauty. Anything wrong to have an opinion over this issue. Of course, political correctenss could thing that merely opining that "X" is prettiest than "Y" could be an offense to "Y". Nowadays, in the name of freedom, we cannot be free of having a personal opinion. No; all people is equal, for political correctness. You can't say that Maria is more beatiful than her sisters. You mut say that all of them were pretty and that all woman are pretty... ::)

As for the authors...the serious ones never stated any opinions about the girls beauty. They only quoted ancient sources of people who knews them and just have their personal judgements about it.(Gilliard, Buxhoevenden, Kobylisnky, Vyrubova, etc, etc)

And now this is my own answer:

-Maria was the prettiest in physical features. She was lovely, healthy. A woman in the real sense of the word.

-Tatiana was not the prettiest but was the  more stylish and interesting of them. She was exotic and sophisticated. An eastern godess. But I find her cold.

-Olga was the dreamer. The  intellectual one. Lovely. Pretty. Almost as pretty as her sister Maria. She could be a mix between Tatiana and Maria regarding physical beauty. For me, she was THE BEAUTY, but we must add reasons who are not physical for it. Beauty is not only related to physic traits.

-Anastasia was the tomboy. Pretty, of course...But with the pretty qualities that could have Julie Andrews, Jean Simmons or Audrey Hepburn. The tomboyish beauty who could turn a man crazy, something ore than a classical beauty.

They were beatiful all four....No doubt. But there were four different kind of beaties.

Vanesa.
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: rosieposie on September 25, 2007, 12:25:39 AM
Well said Vanessa.
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Olishka~ Pincess on October 01, 2007, 06:21:18 PM
The girl is an newbie anyone who is new here is more than welcome to start a thread. I totally agree RealAnastasia, it not nice to be rude like that. It may hurt their feelings. In my opnion I thought all the girls look pretty in their own way.  But, it very nice to have a introduction for the newbie. Realy it should be said like this, more nicer:

Hello, thank you for expressing you opinion on what you said about which grand duchesses is the prettiest. But there has been many threads started on this subject. Please have time to search and read further in the previous threads that have been started in the Having fun section and the OTMA discussion threads. It may be best to reply somewhere in the old threads that have been started earlier. I hope you find them. Good Luck! Have a wonderful time on this forum.


Valeria.
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Annie on October 03, 2007, 11:17:37 PM
Most new people don't know about the old threads. A nice way to show them is to post a link to the old threads and say, here, you might like to see these threads! :) Sometimes people really appreciate it. I hope fairycutie will continue to join us here and have fun on the forums!
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: dmitri on October 03, 2007, 11:40:25 PM
Yes a genuine welcome to all newbies. It's wonderful to have people interested. As for the prettiest, I think they were all attractive. I have always liked Maria. I can see why her first cousin Earl Mountbatten of Burma had thoughts of wanting to marry her. Perhaps it was her gentle nature and beautiful warm and loving eyes. It would have been nice to think that not all of the girls were carriers of the blood disease like their Mother and maternal grandmother, Alice. What joy great-grandmother Queen Victoria would have received in knowing these great-granddaughters. 
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Olishka~ Pincess on October 04, 2007, 05:00:08 AM
Yes Annie that also works posting a link to the old thread. Great opinion you have Dmitri, although I liked Olga mostly, becuase of her poems and letters are great and I like her personality.. But, I still like all of them.
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: anna11 on October 06, 2007, 07:05:06 AM
Aren't Tatiana and Maria usually considered the beauties, wheras Olga and Anastasia's looks are 'modest?' That's what i've read *shrug*

I think that Maria and Olga were the most beautiful. Maria did go through a little 'awkward' stage around 1914, but when she starts putting her hair up, she looks absolutly stunning. By today's standards, Olga was the prettiest child, but apparently at ten she was 'plain,' Again, when she started putting her hair up she looks stunning. Same with Anastasia.

Of course it's entirly subjective, and it matter at all really. They were all very beautiful young women, not only because of their looks.

Sorry about my awful spelling.
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: stacey on November 01, 2007, 02:42:52 AM
Yes, I think they were all lovely, just in somewhat different ways, as RealAnastasia said so eloquently. And beauty is a very subjective thing too!

To me, Tatiana has the most classic beauty, plus being very stylish and chic.

Olga to me is not quite the beauty that Tatiana was--still I have to admit that I sometimes have trouble telling them apart in photos! Olga was still a very lovely girl.

Marie was beautiful too, but in a different way entirely (IMHO) than her older sisters. She looked more "Russian" with a broader face and cheekbones, but yes, she was stunning.

Anastasia to me is the least beautiful of the girls, but then again she died so young--she may well have blossomed into a stunning beauty herself if only she had lived a bit longer.  :(  I agree that she is much more a tomboyish type. Still she had a charming face and beautiful eyes and hair, I would say she was more "cute" or "pixie-like" than a classic beauty--but she was very pretty anyway!

And I must admit that as much as I admire all the girls, I think I would have liked Anastasia the most---I love her sense of humor, her charm, her mischievous personality. To me, personality and charm trump mere "looks" any day of the week!!!
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Grand Duchess Natasha on November 18, 2007, 09:39:04 PM
Personally, I believe Maria to be the prettiest overall. She just strikes me as so incredibly beautiful with those huge gorgeous eyes and her chubby but lovely face and shape.

I think all the Grand Duchesses were very lovely in their own ways.

I guess I would almost go as far as to say where Tatiana is the most classically beautiful...Maria had a more modern beauty to her.

GDN
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Ally Kumari on November 19, 2007, 01:17:56 AM
Modern?

Oh no.

I´m Slavonian and so I can tell you that Maria represents the untimed dream about Slavonic beauty.
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: charley on November 19, 2007, 03:45:22 PM
Yes, I have to agree. There is definitely something different about Maria's look. It is in her eyes. I was just looking through many pictures of her and was quite interested to note that in so many pictures, she is looking away from the camera. Some look as if she is daydreaming and others like she was distracted by something.

I think it is wonderful for new people to come to this website and be so excited about the family. Why not just erase the old post and let new people start the threads that interest them. New people may equal new ideas or new ways of looking at things or maybe actual new information. I never get tired of rehashing stories or info about the family. If anyone is tired of talking about the family and have become bored with them.....................................................leave!
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Laura_ on November 19, 2007, 04:01:39 PM

I think it is wonderful for new people to come to this website and be so excited about the family. Why not just erase the old post and let new people start the threads that interest them. New people may equal new ideas or new ways of looking at things or maybe actual new information. I never get tired of rehashing stories or info about the family. If anyone is tired of talking about the family and have become bored with them.....................................................leave!


well stated charley! :-)
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Ally Kumari on November 19, 2007, 04:05:26 PM
OK!

So I can finally say it:

Her Imperial Highness Grand Duchess Maria Nikolaevna Romanova is the most beautiful girl I´ve ever seen in my life.

...


 :)
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Holly on November 19, 2007, 04:20:49 PM
Well obviously it's good that people get interested in the Romanovs but we're not going to just erase everything so you can talk about it again. If there's already a thread on something why can't you just post on that one? There's no sense in losing things just so new people can start it again and again and again... You actually lose information that way. It's not 'rehashing' it's just clogging up the forum with the same stuff. There isn't even any information you can get from this subject. They were each pretty. How would you feel if your sisters died and afterwords people were debating about which was the prettiest? It's a petty question and there's nothing to get from it. Believe me, you would get tired of it too if you'd been here as long as some of us have. It makes absolutely no sense for someone posting here to be bored talking about them because obviously, if they're here, they're not. And I'm pretty sure you're not going to make anyone leave. ;)
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Grand Duchess Natasha on November 19, 2007, 08:19:52 PM
I just think Maria has what I consider to be a more modern view of pretty. Big beautiful eyes, full lips, a fuller figure....modern looking wheras like Tatiana look classically beautiful with her selnder frame and thin, delcicate facial features.

I can't speak for all, that is simply my opinion. I would love to look like Maria....she was incredibly beautiful.

GDN
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: granduchess_leah on November 20, 2007, 11:06:03 AM
i don't think none them were pretty i think they all were i mean being beautiful its just about looks its about personalty as well
and all of the girls had beautiful personalities.. 
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: charley on November 22, 2007, 09:44:04 PM
Sometimes it is hard to go to a very old post and strike up a dialogue or ask a question after so many years. I was just refering to getting rid of some of the post that became ugly and maybe some of the newbies would handle it differently. From what I understand, some people have been kicked off this site for their behavior. That's all.  :)
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on November 24, 2007, 12:03:17 AM
We should look at it from new comers' point of view. They come here, possibly knowing nothing about the Romanovs, and wish to learn. There are so many threads that they can't possibly go through each one and see what was discussed. They decide to post something, and they have 10 people jumping down their throats because it's been discussed. There is so much intelligence on these boards that they probably feel intimidated. I know I joined a Jack the Ripper forum once, and I was too afraid to post anything! If you asked something already discussed, it was like the people would have skinned you alive if you were actually there in front of them!
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Holly on November 24, 2007, 10:20:30 AM
Well, if they would at least bother to use the search bar sometimes there wouldn't be all these needless threads. I know it works because I use it all the time. If a person wants to learn so badly then the best thing one can do is read. It's not that big of a deal.
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Joyann1 on November 24, 2007, 12:41:30 PM
Yeah they can search but the new members dont know that we all go crazy on them about someyhing thats already disqust.
and well if something is already disqust on another topic why cant we talk about it again? thats much more fun for the new members + maby others learn new things.
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: NAOTMAA Fan on November 24, 2007, 06:27:00 PM
Just my two cents here, was it not that when we all joined that the emails sent to us advise us read the beginners thread; and there it states that we should make sure that the questions we ask haven't been asked before? I remember watching some tutorial on it that stressed not creating threads for previously answered ideas.

Also, in terms of the thread, I think they're all ravishing in different aspects and I certainly enjoy drawing them. No preference  :D
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: charley on December 12, 2007, 05:58:01 PM
I always attempt the search engine before bringing up a topic. It does not always work, so if I do a search and nothing comes up on the search engine, then I ask my question. Usually someone who may have better luck with the search engine can redirect the post or the FA will move the whole thread to the old one, which is all very helpful.
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Holly on December 12, 2007, 07:09:57 PM
While having people find stuff for you is convenient for you, it's a lot of trouble and it's highly annoying for those who have to do it everytime someone can't take the time to have a good look. That's obviously why people get highly annoyed at people who make the same threads over and over; because others have to deal with it.
The search feature actually does work extremely well. You only have to choose the words carefully and you can try more than a few times until you find something. If it always works for me it should work for you as well. There's no luck with the search feature. You either do it right and find what you're looking for or you do it wrong and find nothing. It's not too hard.
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: ~Aura Angel~ on December 14, 2007, 02:11:21 PM
Do u think I look like Maria? cus most people say I look like her, but I think I look more like Olga . . *shrug*

(http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh261/hillaryisoliver/?action-view&current=Picture001.jpg)
Title: Re: The Prettiest?
Post by: Holly on December 15, 2007, 10:19:52 AM
Um, did you post in the wrong thread..?
Title: Family Beauties
Post by: Puck on September 03, 2008, 10:27:12 AM
Who were the stunners in the Romanov family and their kin?  Obviously Grand Duchess Elizabeth, Princess Natalia Paley, Princess Irina Alexandrovna and Princess Zenaida Yousoupov.  Who else might be in this category?  Photos would be helpful of course.
Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: ashanti01 on September 03, 2008, 11:47:26 AM
Well it really depends on the era or time frame.

During the reign of Nicholas I, you had his daughters, Grand Duchess Alexandra Nikolaevna and Olga, Queen of Württemberg then their was his daughter in law Grand Duchess Alexandra Iosifovna.

During the reign of Alexander II, there was Grand Duchess Olga, wife of Grand Duke Michael Nikolaevich. Grand Duchess Maria Feodorovna, wife of Alexander III, then we have Grand Duchess Elizabeth wife of Grand Duke Serge. Grand Duchess Maria, wife of Grand Duke Vladimir however in her youth was a handsome woman, however I don't believe she was ever considered a beauty. Not positive.

During the reign of Alexander III, there was Grand Duchess Anastasia, daughter of Grand Duke Michael and Grand Duchess Xenia.

During the last reign of Nicholas II, there would be a few more beauties. Grand Duchess Tatiana Nikolaevna was considered the most beautiful of the tsar's daughters, although I always thought Grand Duchess Maria was prettier, Princess Irina really did fit the standards of beauty for her time, Natalia Brassova, Countess Brasova wife of Grand Duke Michael was considered very lovely by many.

Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: Michael HR on September 03, 2008, 01:11:22 PM
Grand Duchess Tatiana Nikolaevna for me, such a stunner and quite unlike the others. 
Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: Lalee on September 04, 2008, 05:05:59 AM
Ella was definitely very beautiful, and the most in my opinion. Her sister Alix was considered very beautiful too, but I think it was the expression she gave to others (that being haughty, proud and unsmiling) which made her seem not as beautiful as the others. By all accounts I've read, Tatiana Nikolaevna was considered the prettiest of Nicholas's daughters, obviously having taken after her mother, aunt, and her other Romanov ancestors who were also said to have been very beautiful.
Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 04, 2008, 06:40:26 AM
Do not forget Maria Fyodorovna. She was a beauty, and absolutely charming one.

From OTMA I have already said somewhere that it would be Maria and Tatiana, though Olga had also her appeal.
Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: Michael HR on September 04, 2008, 08:07:56 AM
The more I hear of Ella the more I like her. That lady had guts and sense along with good looks.
Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 04, 2008, 11:49:50 AM
I have always prefered Ella to Alix... The real beauty comes through the women´s eyes, and Ella had truly wonderful soul.
Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: Proud_Olga on September 04, 2008, 02:41:38 PM
Do not forget Maria Fyodorovna. She was a beauty, and absolutely charming one.

Do you talk about Alexander III's wife ? I"m not sure with the spelling. Is it not Feodorovna ? I suppose we can use the two spellings

But if it is her, it is absolutely true. Amazing how much Maria Nikolaievna looked like her, later. We can think  they were the same person when you look at pictures of the two.
Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 05, 2008, 01:41:14 AM
Yes, that´s her. I have seen both spellings and chose the one that is easier for me since in my language it would be Fjodorovna.

I agree that Maria took after her, but in colouring she took after Alexander III. so I don´t think you could mistook those two :)
Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: Michael HR on September 05, 2008, 05:32:17 AM
I know many people have said that the Empress was beautiful but I have never seen it. Perhaps in real  life but her photos do not do her any justice. All the daughters were stunners in different ways and that does come across in photos very well.

Some of the male members were handsome I suppose. Shouldn't be me that asks but who do you think were the handsome male members of the family?   
Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 05, 2008, 05:36:01 AM
Definitely Nicolas II.. Exatly the type of man (physicaly) I would fall for. And I have to say that young Alexander III. certainly had his appeal.
Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: Lalee on September 06, 2008, 03:40:47 AM


Some of the male members were handsome I suppose. Shouldn't be me that asks but who do you think were the handsome male members of the family?   

I haven't read much about handsome men in the Romanov family but definitely Nicholas II.
Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: Grand_Duchess_Aminta on September 06, 2008, 07:08:09 AM
Nikolai II was defenately very handsome.  If you look at his pictures you can see in his face that he was very intelligent and as much as I have seen the original films about the tsar, there is something about his attitude what was very majestic but very simple in a good way.

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g14/PhantomAngel_photos/untitledff.jpg)
Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: Mari on September 07, 2008, 01:15:28 AM
Princess Zenaida Yousoupov most beautiful although GD Elizabeth is sure close

Grand Duke Alexander Mikailovich (in 1903 plate) although there are a couple of others

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=11114.0 see 1903 plates



Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: gem_10 on September 07, 2008, 03:07:34 AM
Ella was definitely a ravishing beauty. Alix is also beautiful during her youth but lost her beauty as she gets older. Maria Nikolaievna was, in my opinion, the prettiest of Nicholas II's daughters. She had beautiful eyes and features.
Tsar Alexander I's wife, the Empress Elizabeth Alexeievna, was considered by many contemporaries as a very beautiful, charming and gentle woman.
The daughters of Nicholas I, Olga Nikolaievna and Alexandra Nikolaievna, were also very lovely women.
Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: Lalee on September 07, 2008, 04:16:29 AM
Ella was definitely a ravishing beauty. Alix is also beautiful during her youth but lost her beauty as she gets older.

I've always found Ella to be the most beautiful.

Alix was very beautiful like her sister but it was misfortune that caused her to age much quicker. She aged especially when Alexei had his terrible attacks of haemophilia.

Nicholas's daughters, Olga and Tatiana, were both equally the prettiest, in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Olga Bernice on June 04, 2011, 12:46:33 PM
In my personal opinion, the prettiest of OTMA was GD Maria. She was quite beautiful.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Ekaterina-Nikolaevna on June 05, 2011, 12:27:32 PM
In my opinion, all of OTMA are beautiful. Maria was a traditional Russian beauty and Tatiana was exotic. But Olga and Anastasia were just as stunning, with their father's features. Each of them, especially in the 1913 and 1914 photographs, are photogenic and gorgeous.
Alexei is my personal favourite boy. He was so good-looking, particularly during his brief teenagehood. Just imagine if he had grown up!
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on June 05, 2011, 02:43:31 PM
The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful?? umm..

The prettiest Grand Duchess out of the Tsar's Daughters:

Maria Nikolaievna - thought she was just lovely and her personalty was too.

 Her sisters Tatiana, Olga and Anastasia Nikolaievna are very pretty too but to me

Tatiana  is not the beauty of the family... yes, she pretty, dark, nice thin figure and had delicate features but i always find her appearance when i look at her photos thoughout her life - haughty and cold which is unattractive to me.

Olga is fair as Tatiana was dark, i thought she was the cutest baby with that big head of heir's as a infant and small child. In her early teens, quite plain but grown up to be a female version of her handsome father. 

Anastasia, my favorite, and i think think she was a plump pretty copy of her mother as a teen however her shortness made her look boyish.

the handsomest?  that's a hard one,
i think all the Mikhailovichi brothers (Nikolai, Mikhail, Georgi, Alexander, Sergei, and Alexei) were handsome devils in their teens.

 Nikolai II and his brother Mikhail  were very handsome too.

If Alexei Nikolayevich lived to be an adult, i think he would have been the the handsomest man of the 20th century, since he was such a good looking little boy then a handsome preteen boy to the end of his short life.

 and I think Prince Vladimir Paley was very handsome, possibly second place of my favorite handsome Romanov Males.  Like Alexei Nikolaieyevich, he too was murdered fairly young.


I can't think for Cuteness....possibly at that time, the little Princess Kyra Kyrillovna was a cutie, such chubby cheeks. I found her sister Maria to be a cute but plain version of their death half sister Princess Elisabeth of Hesse, whom was such a beautiful child.

the most beautiful i found to be Grand Duchess Elizabeth Fyodorevna, even I'm a bit puzzled by her treatment of her niece Maria Pavlovna, i found her absolute gorgeous thoughout her life. Not by her beauty but the way she was.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Archduchess Zelia on October 19, 2011, 06:18:54 PM
It's hard because IMO they were all very beautiful. I love everything about Olga's face, she just looked so wise and I don't know, I have a really hard time explaining it, I just think she was really pretty. Tatiana had that elegance, when I think of the word 'royalty' her face comes to my mind, and then I have a thing for her hair. Maria was a true beauty, she was one of those people who just never have any bad days. Anastasia was really charming and I don't get people who says she was plain, because IMO she was far from plain, she was beautiful and I think it would have been exciting to see the "grown-up" Anastasia.

I've always had a thing Michael Alexandrovich, Nicholas' brother, he was really good looking and so was Nicholas. And then I think Alexei would've turned into a real heart breaker (:
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on October 21, 2011, 12:09:17 PM
Interesting question...

About the most beautiful Romanov women  I think that they were:

GD Maria Nikolaevna (but I also think that OTA were of the prettiest princesses of their time), Empress Marie Feodorovna (when young), GD Ella (I second Ally at thinking that she was beautiful inside and outside), Irina Alexandrovna, I also agree with gem_10 about the beauty of Empress Elizaveta Alexeevna and the three daughters of Nicholas I.

About the handsomest Romanov men:

I think that Nicholas II looked well at young, Alexei was also handsome (is a great pity that he died so young  :'( ) and I second Mandie at thinking that Vladimir Paley was handsome too.
Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: rachel5a on January 03, 2012, 10:57:43 AM
I know many people have said that the Empress was beautiful but I have never seen it. Perhaps in real  life but her photos do not do her any justice. All the daughters were stunners in different ways and that does come across in photos very well.

i think the same about GD Ella
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: edubs31 on January 25, 2012, 11:14:20 PM
I sort of agree with the sentiment that Maria sort of gets lost in the shuffle, sadly. Possibly middle child syndrome. She's darling cute much like Anastasia but possesses more natural beauty. I think we can all mostly agree on the fact that all four daughters were absolutely beautiful both inside and out and yet they all had their own unique set of personality traits to go along with distinct physical features. Judging their looks alone I'm going to categorize them in three life stages (should have been many more of course).

Cutest Baby/Toddler
1) Anastasia
2) Maria
3) Olga
4) Tatiana

Prettiest Girl
1) Olga
2) Anastasia
3) Maria
4) Tatiana

Most beautiful young lady
1) Tatiana
2) Olga
3) Maria
4) Anastasia

Anna was a doll baby and cute as a button as a little girl. She was also a pretty young lady, who sadly we didn't see develop into adulthood, but just not as attractive as her sisters...beautiful just the same though. Olga was a real stunner as a girl and a beautiful young woman. Tatiana's more exotic look doesn't translate quite as well for me in her youth, albeit certainly cute, but as an adult she was a divine beauty! Maria on the other hand has a more conventional and timeless pretty girl next door appeal. I also think she was the "physically/developmentally" consistent of the sisters. Alas I hate to choose between and adore them all, but for the sake of making lists...
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: perdita on July 11, 2012, 04:15:25 PM
The "most beautiful" were the usual suspects.

Male--

Grand Duke Dimitri
Tsarvich Alexis
Vladimir Paley
Prince Felix Yussupov

Many Romanov men were very handsome in their youths but became excessively fat, thin, or dissipated when adults.

Victorians aged badly.

Grand Dukes Serge & Paul had unique personalities, were elegant, and when not too emaciated had supurb physiques when wearing Russian costumes.

Women--

Singular in allure and beauty were:

Grand Duchess Elizabeth
Irina Yussupov
Princess Olga of Yuguslova
Marina, Duchess of Kent
Natalie Paley
Princess Alice of Greece
Princess Cecilia of Hesse
Grand Duchess Tatiana

Magnetic.

The women in the Rumanian royal family were lovely when children.

Still, beauty and glamour can't best the mystique of the iconic OTMA. As historians point out it's virtually impossible to find a photograpgh of the four grand duchess' that is not uniquely charming. A feat when considering that OTMA's formal photographs make evident that their best features are their extraordinary eyes, translucence, and the details of their paper doll attire which is obliterated in the vast majority of their HAZZY candids. In informal shots the daughters of the Tsar wing it by the force of their distinctly expressive personalities and enchanting countenances. i.e., Innocence and charm without guile personified. Unfortunately, the gauze factor of most of OTMA's candid photos is a minus.

Qualifier. Anastasia is deficit the gracefulness that came naturally to her sisters. The youngest grand duchess has very fine eyes and regular features but she occasionally carried herself awkwardly and when posing for informal photographs squints, squirms, and grimaces more than was warrented. Arguably, afflicted with bird-in-a-cage syndrome.

Arturo Beeche's book "Dear Ellen" was entertaining (more photo albums PLEASE)--but he was blindsided when he lauded Queen Alexandra's "legendary beauty" but dissed; "Many considered Elizabeth Fedeorvna Europe's most beautiful princess. Of course our conception of beauty has changed MUCH since then." Granted, everyone takes an occasional bad photograph, but as depicted in clear formal shots the Grand Duchess Serge's features are singularly exquisite. A work of art--absolutely unique. By contrast, Queen Alexandra's looks are merely above average in beauty. The same is true of the Empress of Austria, although the later chose her clothing well and wore them magnificiently as did the Grand Duchess Elizabeth and Alexandra losifovna, the mother of Queen Olga of Greece.

Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: perdita on July 11, 2012, 05:17:07 PM
The more I hear of Ella the more I like her. That lady had guts and sense along with good looks.

Physical courage the very beautiful Ella did have.

There are some however who wish that the Grand Duchess Sergei had demonstrated less pride & more guts throughout her marriage (for both their sakes) and greater timidity when snubbing initially Marie & Dimitri and condoning the lynching of Rasputin.

Few are perfect in a complicated private & public world. Ella had many characteristics that were admirable--some less so. For all the Empress' well documented warts & blindsided obstinancy she was arguably more straight forward & fair minded. Certianly, Alexandra was consistently principled in a Christian sense and was a sincerely honest, "open", and loving wife, mother, & friend. Her husband, children, and intimates attest to that.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Stardust on July 11, 2012, 05:58:04 PM
The "most beautiful" were the usual suspects.

Male--
 ;)
Grand Duke Dimitri
Tsarvich Alexis
Vladimir Paley
Prince Felix Yussupov



You couldn't have put that better!  ;)






Title: Re: Family Beauties
Post by: perdita on July 11, 2012, 11:19:35 PM
The more I hear of Ella the more I like her. That lady had guts and sense along with good looks.

Physical courage the very beautiful Ella did have.

The Grand Duchess Elizabeth also showed remarkable heroism in the aftermath of her husband's assassination and during the Russian revolution, her internment, & execution.

Nicholas 11 had unusually luminous eyes--almost mystical. The Empress Alexandra's eyes were luxurient and their expression infinitely sad.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: violiningirl on June 30, 2013, 10:47:12 PM
Don't get me wrong, I mean all of them were beautiful and are now resting with the angels. But, I have to say my favorite is Maria, because I'm a lot like her in more ways than one!
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: AngelAnastasia on May 14, 2014, 12:54:44 AM
Maria, conventionally, is the prettiest of OTMA, but in some pictures there's something about Anastasia that just makes her a striking, unique beauty, IMO. I think she was generally prettier than Olga and, on some occasions, prettier than Tatiana.
This picture of her next to Olga best conveys it:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/68919024@N07/14179415181/

Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: AngelAnastasia on May 15, 2014, 08:50:52 PM
Also, I think Xenia was pretty, and Minnie was beautiful.
I think Nicholas II was the most handsome of the Romanov men until age and stress took their toll on his appearance in the last 5-10 years of his life.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: edubs31 on May 15, 2014, 09:09:22 PM
Also, I think Xenia was pretty, and Minnie was beautiful.
I think Nicholas II was the most handsome of the Romanov men until age and stress took their toll on his appearance in the last 5-10 years of his life.

I feel like Nicholas aged somewhat predictably. He was after all 50-years old at the time of his death and didn't have the luxuries (cosmetics, health routine, Hair Club for Men) men of his age have in this day and age...particularly during the last sixteen-months of his life.

Alexandra on the other hand aged considerably over the last 10-15 years of her life. Her chronic health issues and the emotional wear & tear of Alexei's illness along with other internal & external struggles were a major reason for this. I think she looks like a pleasant looking woman in her late-50s or 60s in some of those 1916-18 period photos (when in reality she was only in her mid-40s). This a far cry from the beautiful younger women of her twenties to (roughly) mid-30s we see in numerous pictures.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: AngelAnastasia on May 15, 2014, 10:41:29 PM
I remember reading in Nicholas and Alexandra that people described him as looking sallow with innumerable wrinkles in 1917, shortly before his abdication, caused by stress.
And I feel so sorry for Alexandra. How terrible it must be to live with that kind of guilt.
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Lochlanach on March 08, 2016, 11:55:20 AM
Prettiest ?  Maria  . Not many women , or males for that matter , can still manage to look amazing with a shaved head !!
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: Kalafrana on May 12, 2016, 10:32:56 AM
To my eyes, the last adult generation of Romanov men are better looking than their fathers, since they have short hair and moustaches, or tidy beards, rather than voluminous side whiskers.

My choice for the best-looking would be Mikhail Alexandrovich, before he lost his hair, followed by Andrei Vladimirovich (ditto). Nikolai Nikolaievich was also very good looking, and Alexander III was a fine figure of a man before he lost his hair (yet again!) and put on a lot of weight.

Ann
Title: Re: The Prettiest/Handsomest/Cutest/Most Beautiful
Post by: TimM on February 07, 2019, 12:16:58 AM
Sometimes it's hard to pick just one.