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Title: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on July 31, 2009, 12:51:30 AM
I have not yet seen any pictures where Alexandra is pregnant with one of her children. I know that the fashion in this time were enshrouding the body, but aren't there any fotos of her like of Natalia Brassova (wife of Grand Duke Mikhail)? Would be nice, if you could help me... :-)
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 31, 2009, 03:22:36 AM
In this one she was pregnant with Grand Duchess Maria.

(http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/45213/2216391080101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2216391080101857556UbeKcj)
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 03, 2009, 07:08:57 PM
Wow!!! New for me. I never thought that there were photos of Alexandra pregnant
Are there more??
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: nena on August 03, 2009, 07:49:35 PM
There is one of her too, pregnant with GD Maria, from Sokolov's book investigation.

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Zarobljenistvo/Sokolova%20reportaza/th_murder_imperial_family112-117.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Zarobljenistvo/Sokolova%20reportaza/?action=view&current=murder_imperial_family112-117.jpg)

They were in mourning dress in 1899, due to sudden death of GD Gregory Alexandrovich  at Abass - Tuman, Alix is wearing black. 
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Ally Kumari on August 04, 2009, 04:17:51 AM
Georgiy died after Maria was born, didn´t he?
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Tina Laroche on August 04, 2009, 05:49:15 AM
Georgiy died after Maria was born, didn´t he?

As far as I know - Marie was born in June, and he died in August...

Edit: I think someone (can't remember who it was right now) once said that the pic posted in reply #1 was taken on May 5th, 1899. *undecided*

Second edit: I'm not sure about the year of this one, but still:

(http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc331/Tina_1812/Romanovs/th_8c1b1b7a.jpg) (http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc331/Tina_1812/Romanovs/8c1b1b7a.jpg)
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 04, 2009, 06:39:41 PM
This photo about pregnant Alexandra is very interesting, well because there aren’t too much photos of her in that condition, how many months of pregnancy had she in that photo? Are there more about her other pregnancies of Olga, Tatiana, Anastasia and Alexei? Thank you for start that topic is very interesting.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: nena on August 04, 2009, 06:49:18 PM
Georgiy died after Maria was born, didn´t he?

Indeed. Anyway, she did wear black in 1899. My mistake, sorry to everybody. I have never seen any photo of her pregnancies with OTAA. Or at least, I can't recognize well.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Georgiy on August 04, 2009, 10:40:30 PM
There was a thread about this some time ago - maybe one of the Moderators can link this one to the original pregnancy photo thread.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 04, 2009, 11:04:26 PM
Yeah.I thought that too, but yerterday i looked for it using the search engine and i couldnt find it. Maybe it was merged with another one?
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 07, 2009, 01:08:26 PM
Thank you very much for the information :-) Is new for me, again, interesting topic
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on August 08, 2009, 02:37:46 AM
You are welcome, Your Imperial Highness Alzbeta  :D
Title: Re: Photos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Alixz on August 08, 2009, 10:47:28 AM
During "spring cleaning"  a lot of photos were merged into other threads.

At the time it seemed a wise thing to do.

The problem was that so many pictures were being duplicated in thread after thread but being called by another title.  Alix - pregnant or Alix smiling or Alix with Rasputin or Alix with ???

But the photos were all the same and took up too much space.

Take some time and look through the threads of photos and if you find any that can be identified, let me know and I will title them were they are.

Thanks,Alixz
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: CountessKate on August 12, 2009, 07:34:59 AM
Just very generally, in those days pregnancy was something to be hidden, not shown - it is surprising that there still exist any photos of Alexandra visibly pregnant.  Queen Victoria wouldn't have dreamt of going out in public at such a time - it is one of the major reasons why she became so dependent on Prince Albert who effectively took over the functions of sovereign due to her frequent pregnancies.  And the fashions of 1890-1904 were in fact not very condusive to hiding pregnancy, with their emphasis on tight waists - even tea gowns were gathered in the middle, and anyway you couldn't wear them except in the late afternoon.
Title: Re: Photos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Alixz on August 12, 2009, 08:12:55 AM
As soon as pregnancy began to "show" the woman "stopped going out" and if she did receive any visitors, she would cover her stomach with a blanket or afghan.

While I am not saying that I would go back to this type of behavior, I would like to see a little less stomach on the women in the mall.  It is almost a badge of honor to show your stomach these days and many women don't even buy maternity clothing.  They simply wear bigger shirts or the same size and let it all "hang out".

I am sorry but I think that is disgusting.  A little common sense and decency would go a long way.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Ally Kumari on August 12, 2009, 09:25:36 AM
It´s probably because modern trend dictates motherhood to be something special (not saying it isn´t in a way), rather than something completely natural....
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Alixz on August 12, 2009, 12:00:15 PM
You are so right!  Motherhood has become like having won a prize!

I am not saying that children aren't special, I am just saying that in our times, they are pushed into our faces at every turn.  They have their own food and stores and clothing, etc.  They are held up as a prince or princess instead of being "seen and not heard" as we were when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 15, 2009, 06:25:25 PM
There aren't too much photos or paintigs of royal ladies for the same reasons that you mentioned before.
Of cousre pregnancy isn't bad, is natural & good but the majority of women preferred to hide it
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on August 26, 2009, 07:17:32 PM
Quote
While I am not saying that I would go back to this type of behavior, I would like to see a little less stomach on the women in the mall.  It is almost a badge of honor to show your stomach these days and many women don't even buy maternity clothing.  They simply wear bigger shirts or the same size and let it all "hang out".

I am sorry but I think that is disgusting.  A little common sense and decency would go a long way.

I'd like to see a little less skin on people in general...


Anyway, I believe there is a portrait painted when Alix was pregnant with Olga. If I can find it, I'll post it.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: imperial angel on August 27, 2009, 04:36:02 PM
You are so right!  Motherhood has become like having won a prize!

I am not saying that children aren't special, I am just saying that in our times, they are pushed into our faces at every turn.  They have their own food and stores and clothing, etc.  They are held up as a prince or princess instead of being "seen and not heard" as we were when I was a kid.

You see this a lot with celebrities, it's a general trend, but celebrity culture defintely makes it even more prominent, or maybe celebrities just reflect the general trend. You have only read any celebrity magazine to see that motherhood is treated like having won a prize. Back in Alexandra's day, the pregnancies of royalty or prominent/ wealthy people were far less displayed, although of course there was often expectaction or hope for an heir involved in royal pregancies. Even in the early '80s when Diana was pregnant with Prince William the press was criticized for taking pictures of her pregnant in a bikini on vacation, when she had expected privacy. I think they used long range lenses so she didn't even know they were taking photos.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on August 27, 2009, 06:33:55 PM
I'd like to see a little less skin on people in general...


Anyway, I believe there is a portrait painted when Alix was pregnant with Olga. If I can find it, I'll post it.

would be interesting to see that painting :-)
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on August 28, 2009, 01:19:25 PM
I think it's a good thing the attitudes towards pregnancy has changed. The woman shouldn't be expected to stay in her house. And it should be a joyous time.

However, walking around with her belly hanging out is quite different.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Erika on August 31, 2009, 02:05:54 AM
Anyway, I believe there is a portrait painted when Alix was pregnant with Olga. If I can find it, I'll post it.

Is this the painting you are referring to?
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o304/Erika1989/ptalix4.jpg)
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Magdalena on September 03, 2009, 03:05:18 AM
oh, I love this portrait of Alix, she looks so pretty here!

And about the pregnancy photos... well, I think that's all we can do about it, as the XIX/XX century women were almost never going out or posing for pictures while being visibly pregnant... AND especially aristocrats...  I am surprised there are at least those few shots of Alix...
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on September 05, 2009, 09:16:19 AM
I do love this painting...and to know, that there is a cute little olga on it too...  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 07, 2009, 10:55:01 AM
What beautiful painting, Alexandra looks really beautiful on it. Thank you very much to share it here

Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Erika on September 07, 2009, 02:37:57 PM
What beautiful painting, Alexandra looks really beautiful on it. Thank you very much to share it here



You're welcome! :)
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 16, 2009, 08:13:17 PM
Aren't there more photos or paintings?
The topic is really interesting ;-)
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Ally Kumari on September 17, 2009, 02:21:54 AM
Another one from 1899

(http://nd02.blog.cz/254/443/22bf60c81e_53872372_o2.jpg)
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 18, 2009, 05:40:07 PM
This is lovely, I suppose that she is pregnant of Grand Duchess Maria ;-)
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Tina Laroche on September 18, 2009, 06:31:56 PM
Of course Alix was pregnant with Marie in 1899 - with who else, actually? ;-)
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 19, 2009, 08:18:32 PM
Of course Alix was pregnant with Marie in 1899 - with who else, actually? ;-)

Yes, you're all right. An obvious question hihihihihi ;-)
Are there photos af her last pregnancy?
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: nena on September 20, 2009, 12:00:49 PM
i haven't seen any. Only those at St. Sarov 'celebrations' in 1903, and after Alexei's birth, but in period Summer 1903 - Summer 1904, not any.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Kalafrana on September 24, 2009, 10:39:44 AM
Pregnancy was not talked about much until long after.

Just to take an example, an aunt told me that the first she knew of my father's advent in 1928 was being told one morning by her stepfather (my grandfather), 'You're not going to school today. Your mother's had a baby.'

My aunt was fourteen at the time.

My grandparents were born in 1878 and 1885, so not that much after Nicholas and Alexandra (in fact, my grandmother married her first husband in 1906), so attitudes will have been pretty similar.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Magdalena on October 15, 2009, 02:49:13 AM
hey, and what about the fake pregnancy in 1902? ( am I right? it was in 1902, yes? not 1903... O_o)

I've found some pics from 1902 and I think I can say that Alix looks pregnant on them...

http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af179/GuddiPL/1902_6.jpg
http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af179/GuddiPL/1902_13.jpg
http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af179/GuddiPL/1902_14.jpg

what do you think?
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Ally Kumari on October 15, 2009, 02:52:19 AM
I think the last two were taken in Moscow 1901, so she could be pragnant with Anastasia, but I´m not sure....
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 15, 2009, 09:17:18 AM
if they wasnt of the fake pregnancy...did she even had belly with it? 0_o
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Magdalena on October 15, 2009, 11:34:53 AM
yes, she had! In the letters of e.g. Xenia to Aprak, there's something that indeed, everybody though she was pregnant, even her, because she looked like a pregnant lady! weird... does anybody know what is the medical name of the 'thing' that happened to Alexandra at that time?
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on October 15, 2009, 12:34:03 PM
She looks pregnant in all her photos, I haven't seen them never.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: amartin71718 on October 15, 2009, 11:05:32 PM
yes, she had! In the letters of e.g. Xenia to Aprak, there's something that indeed, everybody though she was pregnant, even her, because she looked like a pregnant lady! weird... does anybody know what is the medical name of the 'thing' that happened to Alexandra at that time?
Miscarriage. They called a 'phantom pregnancy.'
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Anastasia Spalko on October 16, 2009, 02:13:26 AM
If you had asked me that question a few weeks ago, I would have known.  Shows how much info my mind can store, if you also take into account that I made such a big deal about Alix's  birthday and now I can't remember it.  I feel sorry for Alix.  It must have been tough, she gets four girls, a miscarriage, a phantom pregnancy, and an unhealthy boy, and all the people want is a healthy heir to the Russian throne.  I'm so glad I'm not a princess/grand duchess/other royalty or anything.   
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Magdalena on October 16, 2009, 05:01:23 AM
yes, she had! In the letters of e.g. Xenia to Aprak, there's something that indeed, everybody though she was pregnant, even her, because she looked like a pregnant lady! weird... does anybody know what is the medical name of the 'thing' that happened to Alexandra at that time?
Miscarriage. They called a 'phantom pregnancy.'

so it was indeed a pregnancy? or her body just 'felt' pregnant, but there was no baby inside?
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 16, 2009, 08:59:03 AM
how many moths of pregnancy did she had cause she looks like he had at least 4 or 5 months and belly cant be noticed until the fourth month (i know cause i ve been pregnant and my pregnacy was notorious when i had five months)

Can Alicky`s be just chubby because she couldnt lost the baby weight of her last pregnancy?
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on October 16, 2009, 12:10:51 PM
I didn't knew that she had a phantom pregnancy. Perhaps was just a little bit plump.
When did it happened?
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Magdalena on October 16, 2009, 02:32:20 PM
in 1902 - she was supposed to give birth in August, but she lost the baby(? - I am still not sure if it was a real miscarriage or something like that her body just felt pregnant, and there was no baby...) - and the thing is, that everybody, including Alix, thought that she really is pregnant, you know, Kaiserin Alzbeta Sissi , rounded belly etc.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 16, 2009, 02:53:50 PM
but if she had a miscarried of a four or five months stillborn, we would know about it..or not?
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: nena on October 16, 2009, 05:06:42 PM
There is quote from GD Xenia's letter about Alexandra's miscarriage in the fall of 1902, I think Erika posted it.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on October 17, 2009, 04:04:53 PM
Couldn't it be a psichological pregnancy? She had the duty to gave birth to the heir, perhaps
it was just in her mind?
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Anastasia Spalko on October 17, 2009, 06:19:57 PM
I cannot remember much, but I read it had something to do with anemia or something, and the claimed it was a miscarriage to spare some embarassment (I think).  I'm doind my best to remember what  I read.  I didn't really pay attention to that part, and I don't actually have the book.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: nena on October 17, 2009, 07:39:55 PM
Alexandra was pregnant ..but in fantasy. On August 30th 1902, Philip persuaded Tsarina that she was pregnant, by hypnosis method. Empress called, by middle of August, accoucheur Otto, who said that she is not pregnant. Also newspaper 'Vladin glasnik' wrote that she has given birth one ugly creature with horns, so they had to strangle it.

Several sequences from Radzinsky's Rasputin File.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Anastasia Spalko on October 17, 2009, 07:49:17 PM
I'm pretty sure it wasn't  ALL mental, but some of it was, and the other part was some sort of health problem.    And I did read again two seconds ago that it was thought to be caused by anemia. 
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Magdalena on October 18, 2009, 04:40:04 AM
I know wikipedia is not the right source, but read about the 'false pregnancy', especially the part about signs and symptoms - to me, exactly like Alexandra....
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Anastasia Spalko on October 18, 2009, 07:33:24 PM
 Does anyone care that I've found two pretty reliable sources that say the 1902 case was anemia?
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Magdalena on October 19, 2009, 03:14:13 AM
yes, we do care! and I also think that the 'false pregnancy' was caused by it!

BECAUSE of the anemia, her whole body felt like pregnant, that's all.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Tina Laroche on October 19, 2009, 08:08:59 AM
Does anyone care that I've found two pretty reliable sources that say the 1902 case was anemia?

Back up - which sources exactly? =/
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Anastasia Spalko on October 19, 2009, 07:42:18 PM
The first one was a book called "Alexandra: The Last Tsarina" by Carolly Erickson, and the second one was a website I found.  The website may not be reliable,  but the book is.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: amartin71718 on October 19, 2009, 08:00:56 PM
Actually, Carolly Erickson's books have a reputation for being rather unreliable, so I wouldn't trust what it says.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Magdalena on October 20, 2009, 02:33:40 AM
but hey, besides C. Erickson books, we have a reliable source - e.g. GD Xenia's letters...
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Ally Kumari on October 20, 2009, 03:22:02 AM
Talking about Alexandra´s pregnancies, how did they all went?

As far as I know the first pregnancy was without any problems, except fot late coming of a baby who was so big forceps had to be used.
During the second pregnancy Alexandra had big problems becuase of her sciatica, the labour was normal.
According to the various account the third pregnancy was the most difficult, Alix was very sick and couldn´t walk for weeks. S. Buxhoeveden mentiones "there was a great anxiety" during the childbirht and all very extremely relieved to be saved. Ericksson´s version says the doctors were almost ready to put Nicholasbefore choice of saving the mother or the child, however as has been stated before the author is not too reliable and could be exaggerating.
All accounts agree that fourth pregnancy with Anastasia was "easy", Alix had no heath problems and was very cheerful, the labour went smooth and quick. Same goes for the last pregnancy with Alexei.....
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Anastasia Spalko on October 21, 2009, 07:15:36 PM
Actually, Carolly Erickson's books have a reputation for being rather unreliable, so I wouldn't trust what it says.

Now someone tells me!  My favorite book has been wrecked for me.  At least I still have "Nicholas and Alexandra".  Man, I'm going to have to re-write half of my book.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Alyosha_Love on May 16, 2010, 04:17:27 PM
Though there seem to be only a handful of photos of Alexandra during her pregnancies, I was wondering if anyone could provide more information about what her clothing looked like. I know women at that time tended to try to hide pregnancy and that most clothes made were merely frocks/pinafores. However, Alexandra was an empress and, at least I would think, that since it would be impossible for her to not go out all of the time (there were obviously many occasions where she would have needed to be in public, pregnant or not) she would have to wear something during her outings and I simply can't imagine (especially from the two or three pictures posted here) that her clothes had absolutely no fashion-sense (even while pregnant).

The description of maternity clothes that I can find online for this time period is slim information at best and generally states that women just wore loose dresses that did not conform to their curves. So, does anyone know what tricks Alexandra used to "dress up" her wardrobe to befit that of an Empress when she was stuck needing a larger waist than normal?
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: bestfriendsgirl on February 16, 2011, 12:26:19 PM
In this one she was pregnant with Grand Duchess Maria.

(http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/45213/2216391080101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2216391080101857556UbeKcj)


Alix looks tired ... Nicky looks wary and concerned.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on February 16, 2011, 05:00:42 PM
Tatiana and Maria were the hardest pregnancies on Alexandra. She was sick the whole time for Tatiana, and had a difficult labor for Maria.

I don't know what Alix wore specifically, but here is a sketch of a maternity corset from 1908. She probably wore something similar.

(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5048/maternitycorset.th.jpg) (http://img253.imageshack.us/i/maternitycorset.jpg/)
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: historyfan on February 16, 2011, 09:37:01 PM
She had such large babies!  My own son was over ten pounds and I had to have a Caesarean.  It's a wonder she made it through her deliveries!
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: kamlowsky on February 16, 2011, 11:21:33 PM
This is regarding a so called false pregnancy mentioned in previous threads.

The cause of this is a Hydatidiform Mole:

Hydatidiform mole is a pregnancy/conceptus in which the placenta contains grapelike vesicles that are usually visible with the naked eye. The vesicles arise by distention of the chorionic villi by fluid. When inspected in the microscope, hyperplasia of the trophoblastic tissue is noted. If left untreated, a hydatidiform mole will almost always end as a spontaneous abortion

The uterus of the woman will enlarge to the physical looks of a 4 or 5 month pregnancy.

For the many references just google the name hydatidiform mole.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on February 17, 2011, 02:18:27 AM
That's very interesting! We can't prove it, but I'm sure it was possible.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Clemence on February 18, 2011, 11:17:55 AM
would it make any difference at all?
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on February 18, 2011, 11:47:30 AM
No, but that's what makes history fun. Guessing at the little stuff.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on February 18, 2011, 11:48:40 AM
Tatiana and Maria were the hardest pregnancies on Alexandra. She was sick the whole time for Tatiana, and had a difficult labor for Maria.

I don't know what Alix wore specifically, but here is a sketch of a maternity corset from 1908. She probably wore something similar.

Very interesting...Thank you very much Clock for those sketeches, I always wondered if women used corset while they were pregnant. Anyways that it looks different to a common corset it still looks uncomfortable to wear!!  :o I agree with you that Alexandra also used the same kind of underwear during her pregnancies.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: bestfriendsgirl on February 18, 2011, 02:06:42 PM
I know this has been mentioned upthread and elsewhere, but I've always thought Alix must have had gestational diabetes, due to the large size of OTMAA (been there and done that X2!) . She may have been borderline diabetic when not pregnant also - I wonder if that ever occurred to Botkin et. al.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Sarushka on February 18, 2011, 08:08:50 PM
I know this has been mentioned upthread and elsewhere, but I've always thought Alix must have had gestational diabetes, due to the large size of OTMAA (been there and done that X2!) . She may have been borderline diabetic when not pregnant also - I wonder if that ever occurred to Botkin et. al.

Infants with high birth weights are common to mothers who are carriers of hemophilia.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: bestfriendsgirl on February 18, 2011, 08:12:51 PM
Really? I did not know that! You learn something new every day ...  :)
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: historyfan on February 18, 2011, 08:39:39 PM
I know this has been mentioned upthread and elsewhere, but I've always thought Alix must have had gestational diabetes, due to the large size of OTMAA (been there and done that X2!) . She may have been borderline diabetic when not pregnant also - I wonder if that ever occurred to Botkin et. al.

Infants with high birth weights are common to mothers who are carriers of hemophilia.

How tragic that Alexandra and Nicholas did not know that.  : (
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: RealAnastasia on February 18, 2011, 10:05:03 PM
I know this has been mentioned upthread and elsewhere, but I've always thought Alix must have had gestational diabetes, due to the large size of OTMAA (been there and done that X2!) . She may have been borderline diabetic when not pregnant also - I wonder if that ever occurred to Botkin et. al.

And babies were bigger back then than now. My own mother had big babies. She was quite amazed when she knew her own grandchildren. She said they were as little as baby-mice! Some years ago, women were encouraged to eat a lot to deliver really big babies. I was almost as big as Olga when born, and my brother too!

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: bestfriendsgirl on February 18, 2011, 10:24:47 PM
Well, my boys were 8 lbs. 13 oz. and 8 lbs. 10 oz. respectively. I had gestational diabetes with #2 son and my labor was induced so he wouldn't get any larger. The hemophelia thing scares me, though, as I am adopted and know little of my medical history. But neither of my sons have hemophelia, nor do any of my four half-brothers ...
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Holly on March 20, 2011, 04:31:21 PM
Well, my boys were 8 lbs. 13 oz. and 8 lbs. 10 oz. respectively. I had gestational diabetes with #2 son and my labor was induced so he wouldn't get any larger. The hemophelia thing scares me, though, as I am adopted and know little of my medical history. But neither of my sons have hemophelia, nor do any of my four half-brothers ...

You shouldn't be scared about having hemophelia, it's extremely, extremely rare.
I was also 8 lbs. 13 oz. at birth and my mother had gestational diabetes and a blood disease in the family of hemophilia. Because of her blood disease she nearly bled to death during birth. My two siblings and I were all c-sections and delivered a week before due-date.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: moonlight_tsarina on May 05, 2011, 04:09:03 PM
Georgiy died after Maria was born, didn´t he?


(http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc331/Tina_1812/Romanovs/th_8c1b1b7a.jpg) (http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc331/Tina_1812/Romanovs/8c1b1b7a.jpg)

Wow....Alix looks so very beautiful there.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Jessika on June 20, 2011, 08:56:48 PM
Alexandra was pregnant ..but in fantasy. On August 30th 1902, Philip persuaded Tsarina that she was pregnant, by hypnosis method. Empress called, by middle of August, accoucheur Otto, who said that she is not pregnant. Also newspaper 'Vladin glasnik' wrote that she has given birth one ugly creature with horns, so they had to strangle it.

Several sequences from Radzinsky's Rasputin File.

"An ugly creature with horns

I know that back then most people would believe that..but isn't it a bit absurd??
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: RealAnastasia on June 20, 2011, 11:33:03 PM
With....HORNS????  :o

RealAnastasia
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: nena on June 21, 2011, 01:24:22 AM
Yes, exactly like that -- they compared it with the goat....I couldn't believe. But also I think that Mr. Radzinsky had reliable source, since he lived in Russia, and has very great touch with the Archives and material on regarding the Romanovs.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: Condecontessa on June 21, 2011, 06:14:19 PM
Even if the child looked like a goat, I think AF would have loved the child with all her heart and soul.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: RealAnastasia on June 21, 2011, 11:15:18 PM
Even if the child looked like a goat, I think AF would have loved the child with all her heart and soul.

No doubt! Alix and Nicholas were loving parents.

RealAnastasia.
Title: Re: Fotos of Alexandra's pregnancies?
Post by: bestfriendsgirl on July 21, 2011, 08:28:00 PM
Alexandra was pregnant ..but in fantasy. On August 30th 1902, Philip persuaded Tsarina that she was pregnant, by hypnosis method. Empress called, by middle of August, accoucheur Otto, who said that she is not pregnant. Also newspaper 'Vladin glasnik' wrote that she has given birth one ugly creature with horns, so they had to strangle it.

Several sequences from Radzinsky's Rasputin File.

"An ugly creature with horns

I know that back then most people would believe that..but isn't it a bit absurd??

I thought that was Rosemary in Rosemary's Baby ... one of the creepiest books I've ever read.