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Title: OTMA quotes
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on December 28, 2009, 01:14:02 PM
Does anyone know of some good quotes by OTMA that they really said?
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: Holly on December 28, 2009, 05:36:22 PM
Some from 1917-1918.

Olga:
I'm writing to you on the huge table int he big hall. My brother's toy soldiers are all over the table. A little way off Papa and the four children are drinking coffee, but mama is not up yet. The sun is shining onto the paper between my right arm.

Give my love to all who remember me.

You hear of so much terrible suffering, terror even, but through it all I firmly believe that God will help somehow.

Darling, you must know how dreadful it all is.

Tatiana:
The weather was divine all day, bright sun, which makes my mood immediately better, so don't think that it is always bad. Not at all. As you know, we don't get dejected easily!

It is hard that we cannot see each other, but God will surely help us, and we will meet again in better times.

The truth? So hurt and sad what they are all doing to our native land, but there is one hope, that God will not leave and He will teach these madmen.

There are many sadnesses in these days.

I wish I could see the ocean, even with one eye.

Maria:
Time flies by with a horrible quickness. Soon it will be a year since we saw our friends. Well, it's nothing. God will grant us all to meet again.

Pretty often, when all four of us get together in a proper mood we sing various nice songs. This always ends up with us loudly imitating zurna sounds. Some of us knock against the door or against any other thing that catches our eye in order to produce more noise... and we create a hubbub that can be heard almost all over the house.

Anastasia:
I've not yet turned into an elephant, though I might yet very soon.

Just now, I am sitting and writing by the window. It's already 7:45, but still light out. The Church bells are ringing, reminding us of the cathedral at Tsarskoe.

Dear ones, in our thoughts we are with you all the time. It is terribly sad and empty; I really don't know what possesses me.

We swung on the swing; boy, did I laugh when I fell off so splendidly! Yes, quite! I told the sisters so many times last night that they are sick of hearing about it, but I could tell it again and again, although there is no one left to tell.

Strangely enough, I tanned more deeply than anyone else, a regular Arab woman!? But these days I am boring and not pretty.

You know, I want to see you so much it's sad. I go for walks and then I’m back. It's boring whether you go out or not. I swung. The sun came out, but it's cold and my hand can barely write.

Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on December 28, 2009, 05:50:54 PM
Thank you!!! are all of them from c. 1917 at Tobolsk? and are they from letters to friends & relatives?

by the way Holly, I love your Anastasia site! it was the first one i found after i read the last grand duchess, which got me into OTMA. I love the music and i listen to it when i write stories...it's so pretty! it suits otma completly...
 :)
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: Holly on December 28, 2009, 05:52:53 PM
Yep, all from Tobolsk and to friends/relatives!

Thank you so much!! I also got into them from that book. :)
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on December 28, 2009, 06:00:30 PM
That is cool! it seems like lots of people have. it was odd, i thoguht i wouldn't like it for some reason, because i had started Victoria a few days earlier, and it didn't make sense, and so i was reluctant to read it, but once i started it, i couldn't put it down! i also didn't want it to end. now i know half of it by heart.  :)
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: Holly on December 28, 2009, 07:08:08 PM
That was kind of the same for me, too. I started reading it but I didn't really have any interest in it. I sort of felt like I'd heard it before somehow but once things started getting interesting in the book I was flipping pages so fast, sometimes skipping boring parts and when it ended I was like, "What?!" I wanted to know what happened to them. When I read the epilogue I was speechless. I wrote "remember Anastasia" on the inside cover of the book right after I found out they killed them all. After that I read the book cover to cover. That was like 8 years ago now!
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on December 28, 2009, 08:18:00 PM
Very interesting. i think i read the book in one day. i had seen one of the 1913 naotmaa poses very small in some book, and i thoguht "those girls are so beautiful, i'd like to learn more about them," and totally forgot. then i read a reference to the 'missing princess' in a novel, and was intruiged and forgot. then when i read the royal diary...well, i'm sure you know what happened then. :)

do you know if the quote on the bottom of moonlight-tsarina's posts is really by Olga? it is attributed to her, but i read somewhere else that someone else said that.
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: Holly on December 28, 2009, 08:31:48 PM
Must've been fate! I don't think I'd ever heard anything about them before that book. I remember seeing the animated Anastasia in the theater and I really loved it but I was too young to wonder if it was real and look it up or anything.

The quote in Moonlight_Tsarina's post was a quote from a letter by Olga. She's telling a friend something Nicholas told her to pass on. The quote is, "Father asks us to remember that the evil which is now in the world will become yet more powerful, and that it is not evil which conquers evil, but only love..."
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: GombeGal on December 28, 2009, 11:15:25 PM
Thanks for posting this question!  I love reading quotes from the children... their words are so poignant and wise.  
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on December 29, 2009, 10:24:26 AM
Ahh. Thanks!
what does Anastasia mean when she says "i've not yet turned into an elephant, though i might soon" ? is it just her shivbzik-ness joking around? or a code of sorts? i doubt the latter, though. maybe she means she is getting stout.  :)
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: Holly on December 29, 2009, 10:36:52 AM
Yes, she was talking about her sudden weight gain. She goes on to say, "...maybe it's from all too little movement, though I don't know."
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on December 29, 2009, 10:40:05 AM
How funny. She had such a sense of humor! 
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: Olga Maria on December 30, 2009, 12:30:45 AM
Some from 1917-1918.

Olga:
I'm writing to you on the huge table int he big hall. My brother's toy soldiers are all over the table. A little way off Papa and the four children are drinking coffee, but mama is not up yet. The sun is shining onto the paper between my right arm.



You hear of so much terrible suffering, terror even, but through it all I firmly believe that God will help somehow.



Holly, may you give the letters from which these quotes are? I haven't read these yet. Thank you very much in advance.
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: abbigail on December 30, 2009, 08:24:11 AM
Anastasia in a letter to a friend during the journey to Siberia:
"Once in the evening I was looking out, we stopped near a little house...A little boy came to my window and asked 'Uncle, please give me, if you have got, a newspaper?' I said 'I am not an uncle, but an aunty and have no newspaper.' At first I could not understand why he did call me 'Uncle' but then I remembered that my hair is cut and I an the soldiers laughed very much."

I thought this was funny...the original letter was in English with some spelling issues.
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: Holly on December 30, 2009, 11:26:41 AM
Anastasia in a letter to a friend during the journey to Siberia:
"Once in the evening I was looking out, we stopped near a little house...A little boy came to my window and asked 'Uncle, please give me, if you have got, a newspaper?' I said 'I am not an uncle, but an aunty and have no newspaper.' At first I could not understand why he did call me 'Uncle' but then I remembered that my hair is cut and I an the soldiers laughed very much."

I thought this was funny...the original letter was in English with some spelling issues.

It's not for certain that this is actually a letter. If I remember correctly, it was part of one of her school notebooks but is mistakenly taken as a real letter.

Here are the letters from Olga for you, Shandroise,

Olga Nikolaevna to to Margarita Khitrovo
26 December 1917
 
Hello Ritka my dear!
I got your letter of the 7th yesterday evening, and I thank you greatly for it. Of course I already wrote to you on Sunday, but I don't know if you will get it or not. Well, already it is the holidays. We have a Christmas Tree in the corner of the hall which gives off a wonderful smell, but not like the ones at Tsarskoe. It is a special type of tree and is called a 'balsamic fir tree'. It smells strongly of oranges and mandarins and there is always resin flowing down its trunk. We don't have any decorations   just 'silver rain' and wax candles   of course these are Church candles as we don't have any other. After dinner on Christmas Eve we distributed presents, for the most part our embroideries. Dividing them up and working out who will get what reminded us completely of the charitable markets in Yalta. You remember how much preparation went on always? 
The Vigil service was at 10 in the evening and the Christmas tree was lit. It was beautiful and nice. The choir was big and sang well, but like at a concert, and this I do not like. Ritka, you know, we haven't had a line from Lili, and pretty much nothing since August which is strange enough, we know only through your letters. She was in Odessa. Really, could she have forgotten about us?!
I'm writing to you on the huge table in the big hall. My brother's toy soldiers are all over the table. A little way off Papa and the four children are drinking coffee, but mama is not up yet. The sun is shining onto the paper between my right arm. We finally had some snow and it added to our snow mountain. I wrote a small letter to Chern. and got a reply the next day. Please thank him and pass on our big regards to him. Katia writes, so does T. Sonya. Bibi has been silent three months and Olya Kolzakova longer. Iza has arrived but they have not released her from the house. We have only seen her from the window.  Well, I'll finish here. I wish you much happiness for next year and kiss you strongly, Ritka mine. All send their regards. Mama kisses you. God be with you.

Your Olga.

Olga Nikolaevna to Rita Khritovo
Tobolsk, 3/16 February

My darling, have you received my letter from the 21st? For some reason, I want to write to you another. We heard about you from Lyubusa's mother's letter. Do you like her? We are all well and healthy. The weather is sunny and frosty. In the evening there are many stars. We walk as usual, go riding done the hill and frolic very much in the snow. It's generally all the same. I've heard nothing from Katya for a long time. So much is written in the papers about the misery that I worry there is no peace. This evening there will be vespers. Pankratov is not with us much, for the time being only the regiment, and it's unknown how long this will continue.
We are all busy learning various comedies: English and French. Has N.N. returned? How come up to now you've not seen [each other?]? And is little Chern[ychev?]. here? Give him my warmest regards if you see him. I wrote on the holiday. Three packages from Zinochki [nickname for Zinaide] so far have not arrived. I'm afraid that they've disappeared a 1 i s dukhami i t.g. received. Shura Pet[rovna?] write not long ago. Kolya has left the regiment and has gone somewhere. She and her children survive by sewing boots. Boris wrote. They are living as before in their Lazaret, and meet every day. They seem very happy. Golyb' [nickname for Golub’ev] and his wife are in Petrograd. Babochkin’s sister saw her. Al. Vlad. often writes from Vladivostock. She had an operation, and now is healthy. Bogdoanov wrote Yevgeni Sergeivich from Moscow, from the lazaret, that they are starving terribly. You hear of so much terrible suffering, terror even, but through it all I firmly believe that God will help somehow. Now there is full demobilization, and departures from that also. It is a shame, old t.k. habits. Who is Sozik? Do you know anything new about Baron or any other? I am sorry for my bad hand[writing] and paper, it is so appetizingly to write, especially to you. Give our regards to your hosts/landlords. I kiss you tenderly, my dear. God bless you. My family [lit: my nearest] send greetings to you and all, Nikolai Dmitrivich, and others who remember me.

Olga.
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: blessOTMA on December 31, 2009, 04:18:21 PM
terrific thread!
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on January 01, 2010, 11:16:37 AM
terrific thread!

Thank you!  :) I never thought one of my threads would be this... sucessful, shall I say?

I know I was the one who orginally asked for quotes, but here is a very funny one from Olga's 1913 diary:
...After 4 pm we sat in the big room with Mama and Grigory Yefimovitch. All of us sat around him together with Mama and Papa. It was very nice. We were wearing red blouses. When we entered it was dark and he thought that we were wearing white. When the light was turned on, he was very suprised to see us dressed differently. He said "the Lord let me see you in white when you entered because your souls are so light."...
 
Happy  New  Year !
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: blessOTMA on January 01, 2010, 02:21:06 PM
He was crafty! lol! How about that entry in Olga's 1913 diary where Grigory Yefimovitch says to Olga she could be a Czarina like in the old days? And it was  said in front of Alexi and Alexandra too ! Anyone else saying that would find themselves on a train to Siberia! lol!
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on January 01, 2010, 03:19:10 PM
I don't recall that part. Then again, I'm only halfway through it, so maybe I haven't reached it.
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: blessOTMA on January 01, 2010, 04:07:17 PM
I don't recall that part. Then again, I'm only halfway through it, so maybe I haven't reached it.
It was when they were all having tea...I'll see if I can find it . If you are half way , it should be fairly soon.
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: Olga Maria on January 02, 2010, 04:17:11 AM

Here are the letters from Olga for you, Shandroise,

Olga Nikolaevna to to Margarita Khitrovo
26 December 1917
 
Hello Ritka my dear!
I got your letter of the 7th yesterday evening, and I thank you greatly for it. Of course I already wrote to you on Sunday, but I don't know if you will get it or not. Well, already it is the holidays. We have a Christmas Tree in the corner of the hall which gives off a wonderful smell, but not like the ones at Tsarskoe. It is a special type of tree and is called a 'balsamic fir tree'. It smells strongly of oranges and mandarins and there is always resin flowing down its trunk. We don't have any decorations   just 'silver rain' and wax candles   of course these are Church candles as we don't have any other. After dinner on Christmas Eve we distributed presents, for the most part our embroideries. Dividing them up and working out who will get what reminded us completely of the charitable markets in Yalta. You remember how much preparation went on always? 
The Vigil service was at 10 in the evening and the Christmas tree was lit. It was beautiful and nice. The choir was big and sang well, but like at a concert, and this I do not like. Ritka, you know, we haven't had a line from Lili, and pretty much nothing since August which is strange enough, we know only through your letters. She was in Odessa. Really, could she have forgotten about us?!
I'm writing to you on the huge table in the big hall. My brother's toy soldiers are all over the table. A little way off Papa and the four children are drinking coffee, but mama is not up yet. The sun is shining onto the paper between my right arm. We finally had some snow and it added to our snow mountain. I wrote a small letter to Chern. and got a reply the next day. Please thank him and pass on our big regards to him. Katia writes, so does T. Sonya. Bibi has been silent three months and Olya Kolzakova longer. Iza has arrived but they have not released her from the house. We have only seen her from the window.  Well, I'll finish here. I wish you much happiness for next year and kiss you strongly, Ritka mine. All send their regards. Mama kisses you. God be with you.

Your Olga.

Olga Nikolaevna to Rita Khritovo
Tobolsk, 3/16 February

My darling, have you received my letter from the 21st? For some reason, I want to write to you another. We heard about you from Lyubusa's mother's letter. Do you like her? We are all well and healthy. The weather is sunny and frosty. In the evening there are many stars. We walk as usual, go riding done the hill and frolic very much in the snow. It's generally all the same. I've heard nothing from Katya for a long time. So much is written in the papers about the misery that I worry there is no peace. This evening there will be vespers. Pankratov is not with us much, for the time being only the regiment, and it's unknown how long this will continue.
We are all busy learning various comedies: English and French. Has N.N. returned? How come up to now you've not seen [each other?]? And is little Chern[ychev?]. here? Give him my warmest regards if you see him. I wrote on the holiday. Three packages from Zinochki [nickname for Zinaide] so far have not arrived. I'm afraid that they've disappeared a 1 i s dukhami i t.g. received. Shura Pet[rovna?] write not long ago. Kolya has left the regiment and has gone somewhere. She and her children survive by sewing boots. Boris wrote. They are living as before in their Lazaret, and meet every day. They seem very happy. Golyb' [nickname for Golub’ev] and his wife are in Petrograd. Babochkin’s sister saw her. Al. Vlad. often writes from Vladivostock. She had an operation, and now is healthy. Bogdoanov wrote Yevgeni Sergeivich from Moscow, from the lazaret, that they are starving terribly. You hear of so much terrible suffering, terror even, but through it all I firmly believe that God will help somehow. Now there is full demobilization, and departures from that also. It is a shame, old t.k. habits. Who is Sozik? Do you know anything new about Baron or any other? I am sorry for my bad hand[writing] and paper, it is so appetizingly to write, especially to you. Give our regards to your hosts/landlords. I kiss you tenderly, my dear. God bless you. My family [lit: my nearest] send greetings to you and all, Nikolai Dmitrivich, and others who remember me.

Olga.

Very many thanks to you, Holly! ♥
A Very Happy and Blessed New Year to all in the forum!


Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: blessOTMA on January 02, 2010, 12:22:46 PM
It's so moving how being remembered or not is a constant in thier letters during this time and how touchingly grateful they are when
someone does remember them. Well they are remembered. Oh yes, that much is certain.
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: blessOTMA on January 02, 2010, 09:59:19 PM
looking for the date in Olga Nikolaevna's 1913 diary where Rasputin tells her she could rule like Czarina like in the old days...
I'm still looking , but I ran into something fun. They are sailing on the Kama River on May 18th....
and Olgs says ....In Mama's cabin we were learning how to curty. It was very funny"  I bet it was! lol!

Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: blessOTMA on January 04, 2010, 04:19:23 PM
Found the quote

It's Feb 15th 1913 . A cold day, everyone in the family is at afternoon tea. there is a guest however, Rasputin,
who she calls Grigory Yefimovich.

Olga writes
....Everyone was sitting together with Grigory Yefimovich. Papa was there also of course. He ( by which I believe she means, Rasputin) kept patting Alexis on the head and said I could rule like tsarinas did in the past. Dined with Papa and Mama"....

pretty  remarkable!
Title: Re: OTMA quotes
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on January 06, 2010, 02:43:52 PM
Hmmm.