....."When Alexandra Feodorovna and her daughters went into exile in Siberia, they took their badges and stars with them. They were recovered in 1933."Interesting. I know a stash of Romanov jewels were discovered in Siberia in '33....AF had originally had them smuggled out and hidden in a convent while the family was in Tobolsk...it seems the jewels that could not be sewn into their clothes went into this stash.( such as tiaras ) Sending thier badges and stars into hiding must of been quite an awful moment for Alexandra and the girls....one of many
Referencing Replies #s 25 and 28: The "belt-like thing" (partially showing) is the sash, or "ribband" of a Grand Cross grade of an imperial order, being worn over the shoulder, and the badge or "jewel" of the order being worn at the gathered ends of the sash, on the opposite hip. IMO, it's undoubtedly the Grand Cross of the Order of Saint Catherine, which was bestowed at the christening of every Grand Duchess, or a Grand Duchess who married into the Imperial Family. According to Nick Nicholson in an article (on the history of this order) on the APTM site, "When Alexandra Feodorovna and her daughters went into exile in Siberia, they took their badges and stars with them. They were recovered in 1933." AP
Oh yes, and we cannot see the big star, because it was placed on the chest. "Thanks" to the qualified photographer, that he took this Tatiana's photo without such important thing like a big star;).
Strangest thing for me is, that she looks so different in every picture...sometimes a beauty, sometimes I find her not that pretty. But one surely had to see her in natural, see her moves, hear her voice and her expressions while talking...I think, thats what makes her the beauty for so many people.
Please be more patient. I think that the English language is not wox24's native language.
That can be found in Beinecke Abum 6; here. (http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/RMNV_SearchExec.asp)
That pic was taken in Finland, right?
Ah didn't think of that.
The complete picture of Tatiana:
(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/1908_forest.jpg)
Tatiana circa 1913:
(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/probablynottanya.jpg)
I'm terribly sorry for off-topic, but as otmaprivatealbums already posted two photos from the Presidential library, I have a question for all who are really know something in this case: how can I copy photos from that source? How you are commonly doing it? As I know you can use Silverlight only for watching and there is no option in this software to copy photos.
I'll be grateful for any answer.
I'm terribly sorry for off-topic, but as otmaprivatealbums already posted two photos from the Presidential library, I have a question for all who are really know something in this case: how can I copy photos from that source? How you are commonly doing it? As I know you can use Silverlight only for watching and there is no option in this software to copy photos.
I'll be grateful for any answer.
The only way I know is by making a screenshot (http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/general/ht/winscreenshot.htm). (Or the "Grab" utility on a Mac.) The bigger the screen, the bigger the captured photo will be.
I'm terribly sorry for off-topic, but as otmaprivatealbums already posted two photos from the Presidential library, I have a question for all who are really know something in this case: how can I copy photos from that source? How you are commonly doing it? As I know you can use Silverlight only for watching and there is no option in this software to copy photos.
I'll be grateful for any answer.
The only way I know is by making a screenshot (http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/general/ht/winscreenshot.htm). (Or the "Grab" utility on a Mac.) The bigger the screen, the bigger the captured photo will be.
otmaprivatealbums, beautiful photos!
I'm terribly sorry for off-topic, but as otmaprivatealbums already posted two photos from the Presidential library, I have a question for all who are really know something in this case: how can I copy photos from that source? How you are commonly doing it? As I know you can use Silverlight only for watching and there is no option in this software to copy photos.
I'll be grateful for any answer.
I know! :D Lol! It's funny how people have these face things they do.Her eye brows up in a questioning manner was something she did though out life, it's since the earliest photos.
Tatiana circa 1903:http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/otmaprivatealbums/circa1903_Tatiana.jpgI have always seen that drawing called " Olga" ...and when one looks at the forehead and hair( and ears) ...one can see why ;-)
She does look like Maria, I agree, and for a long time I was convinced it is Maria. But it would be illogical to have two sketches of Maria and none of Tatiana.Are these drawings still in Russia? If they were removed from their frames, who is who could very well be noted on the back of them.
blessOTMA - that is a cropped picture, here you can see full: http://nd01.jxs.cz/366/974/08c2e5281f_40004967_o2.jpgThank you Ally! I'm guessing Germany? Alexandra and Alexis look like they are about to race in their chairs! lol!
I'm pretty sure that's Maria in post 97.
She does look like Maria, I agree, and for a long time I was convinced it is Maria. But it would be illogical to have two sketches of Maria and none of Tatiana.
I think I've seen that bust, Condecontessa. It did resemble her and was interesting to see. Does anyone have a photo of the baby one?I have not seen those...the ones Alexandra had...just the modern ones!
I agree, blessOTMA...I always admired how fine and sensitive her eyebrows and whole face were. And I laughed at the "pleading" look of Olga's...you're rightWhen younger, Olga had a pleading look that went with her sweet smile...perhaps it appeared so because her eye brows had so much space to travel up in that amazing brow! lol!( and of course she had a furious look too! )
Then where are Tatiana and Anastasia???
Emily x
Nicholas with Olga and Tatiana - Finish skerries, 1913 :Wow, definitely new for me, too! Very many thanks to you, nena! It's also my first time to see them wearing that dress.
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/th_getImage.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/?action=view¤t=getImage.jpg)
you welcome ^.^:) Where on Earth did you find it???
you welcome ^.^:) Where on Earth did you find it???
Emily x
I already knows the pic. I think it was posted at "The Big Pair thread"...It's amazing. Why did Romanovs photograph themselves by the BACK? (there also is a pick of Alexei's head seen by the back)I belive you mean this one:
RealAnastasia.
I already knows the pic. I think it was posted at "The Big Pair thread"...It's amazing. Why did Romanovs photograph themselves by the BACK?
ups, sorry for the big size...Tatiana has such an erectness! Beautiful, like the daughter of a Tsar :)
Thanks for posting that, Tasia...I love that photo of OT. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/MariaTatianaOlga1916.jpgI have adored that one of the three girls for decades and will be painting it later this year. Can't wait to get at the watered silk stashes and the dresses !...marvelous lighting too
Tatiana in the back...she looks just stunning here.
Thanks for posting that, Tasia...I love that photo of OT. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/MariaTatianaOlga1916.jpg
Tatiana in the back...she looks just stunning here.
It's part of that fur thing that's around her neck. But for the life of me, I can't remember what it's called.
@blessOTMA:Tatiana looks great on this picture. :-) But what is this thing on her lap? Is this a dog or something?lol! Actually that's a good question. It's a fox! The fashion at that time was to keep the head on the fur piece and yes, stole is the term. So it's a white fox stole. There is a photo of Olga and Marie similarly dressed taken at the same time Quite stylish for the girls really
Am I the only one that thinks she looks in her late twenties? IMO, she had a rather grown-up face, like in the picture from 1906 with Olga holding Alexei and Maria and Tatiana holding hands, I think M and T's faces look a lot older than their bodies. I think it just makes them look more beautiful.
Emily x
Sarushka, what is the title of the documentary that the screenshot came from?
And also, I don't think the screenshot was taken in January 1911 because the Imperial Family surely was back to Tsarskoe Selo by then.
Maybe she was wearing a corset.
I believe it was Gibbes who wrote that you could hardly find anyone so thin as Tatiana. (I'll double check the quote in House of Special Purpose when I get a minute.)
Great photos!
A minitaure painting based on a photo
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Queens/tatiana.jpg)
Are the other minatures posted in this forum or did they not exist?
I sometimes think Tatiana looks so determined in her photos because one had to stay very still so the photo would not blur.
I sometimes think Tatiana looks so determined in her photos because one had to stay very still so the photo would not blur.
By the turn of the century, photo technology had improved enough that this was no longer the case. The informal photos taken by the IF are pretty much equivalent to our modern snapshots -- a click and the image was captured.
Is that a new photo? I can't tell.It’s not rare. It’s this photo:
Absolutely new for me, thanks so much! When was it taken?
Aww! :) SO cute! She has bangs there, h'm.
Larri, thanks for the photo.
Friendly five cents;). Man sitting with Tatiana is a famous Russian Naval officer, intelligent man with difficult destiny and friend to Kolchak, Rear Admiral (1917) Sergei Nicholaevich Timirev (1875-1932). He was a senior Standart officer before Sablin (from 1907 till 1910).
Btw, maybe you have this photo in a more higher resolution?
I tried to make it bigger bur unfortunately the quality is not the best =(
You're welcome=)
Thank you very much.
Btw, are you sure it was taken in 1908? Judging by the Timirev's epaulets (I can see two lines Captain level instead of one for lower officers), it must be taken not early than 1910. He was promoted to 2nd Rank Captain in April of 1910.
Ally, I entered on the website and it says it was taken between 1917 and 1918 in Tobolsk =)I was wondering about that....looks like the governors house
could you post link to that website?
Ally, I entered on the website and it says it was taken between 1917 and 1918 in Tobolsk =)I was wondering about that....looks like the governors house
I wonder if that pic was taken during the same time with Olga that is in the book End of the Romanovs?
Thank you Sarushka, I was looking for that one. Tatiana seems more mature in the one Katenka_Fyodorovna found ( thanks again!) Also what is interesting about the two Governor houses is while they can appear similar,( windows and rain pipes! ) the one at Mogilev is a "lighter" building for want of a better work. The governor's house at Tobolsk is more solid, almost like a fortress. The house at Mogilev seems more likely to have such a second story balcony. In Tobolsk the only balcony I have seen is the masonary one over the front door and not nearly as longI wonder if that pic was taken during the same time with Olga that is in the book End of the Romanovs?
Certainly similar, but not the same day:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/th_tatianaolgasummer1913.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Big%20Pair/?action=view¤t=tatianaolgasummer1913.jpg)
voyageroffreedom ! I have been looking for that one in my own files! Thank you!
nice VOF! Thank you! ....it looks like they are all wearing the same dress...just that the Little Pair's hems are shorter of courseThanks, it was actually taken on August 5th 1913, there is Olga's diary entry written on the same day -- the photographer was Karl Bulla.
Tatiana with her regiment and her father Aug 1913...after review and lunch ...and I just noticed she wearing her Order of St Catherine.
Of course this is known...I just scaned it big =)
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/th_aug1913TN.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20this%20and%20that/aug1913TN.jpg)
Where are you finding these great pictures?
The swimming one is Anastasia.
I think it's Mogliev. I saw it labeled as such somewhere. Pretty outfit she's wearing! :D
They look too young to be in Mogilev. And the houses behind them seems close to each other.
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/th_TNboat.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/Romanov%20postings/TNboat.jpg)
cute as can be TN...plus a bonus: seeing exactly how people got off and on the yacht
BlessOTMA I love Tatiana's face in this photo! Could you please tell me when it was taken? Thank you! =)Yes Tatiana face could squeeze itself into the very picture of glee. =) And its always adorable when she does . Sablin's book itself says " 1906-07 " in the caption ,
Sarushka, your identification of Sonia O off to the side in post 274's photo is spot on and why you deserve to be a mod for this board. Nice eyes!
The picture on the frame Nena is asking about must be the pic of Olga holding baby Tatiana and they are on a leather chair/couch. It's in the book camera and the tsars.
Looks like Sablin with Tatiana.I think same. It was taken at Livadia in spring of 1914. You can see the mountains behind, and is that the Black Sea seen behind?
I have seen all of them except the second one. Adorable, and I right? :) the man is Ernest of Hesse right?
I was thinking when I saw that birdcage, omg that is Tatiana size!! ;D their hair curled naturally, I believe it was Alix that said that when she described the girls hair in 1917.
I took a closer look at this framed photo of Tatiana and realized that it's different from this other one I'd had before:
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Tatiana/th_47-20-352_Star-Frame_600.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Tatiana/?action=view¤t=47-20-352_Star-Frame_600.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Tatiana/th_Tanaajejhulni.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/visga/Tatiana/?action=view¤t=Tanaajejhulni.jpg)
Two different photos from around the same time? (reminds me of Olga's 16th birthday, with the guys from her regiment.)
What a twist - it's interesting! But Olga and Tatiana were both rather 13 and more than a half year in July of 1909 and January of 1911. (both of them were given there regiment approx. 4 months before their 14th birthday). I'd say that 13 -13, 5 years were 'the lower limit'(leaning towards 14 yrs). for getting their regiments (OTM). Also, the difference between 1909/11/13/15 is 2 years, same as the sisters' ages differences, and all four got them when they were at last 13.
Despite what the Russian caption stating that Maria was Chief of the 9th Dragoons since 1911, my sources say she got this regiment for her 13th birthday, on June 14,1912. If right, she would have received a regiment at a younger age than any of her other sisters : Olga was named Chief of her 1st regiment, the 3rd Elizavetgradsky Hussars, for her 13th name day July 11, 1909 as was the case of Tatiana, named Chief of the 8th Voznesensky Lancers on January 12, 1911. Anastasia got her 148th Kaspiisky Infantry Regiment on December 25, 1915, 3 days after her 14th birthday and name day.
http://www.geneshapiro.com/201104ximg/148_2b1000asdf.jpg
Not rare, but good quality and a postcard(?). Can anyone translate?
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/th_tennis1914.jpg) (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy202/blessOTMA/AP%20Postings%202/tennis1914.jpg)
tennis group 1914
There is an almost unreal sense of content and normalcy here. How does anything bad happen to anyone in this picture?One never stops being stumped by that question....particularly for me when I view photos of ceremonies from the 1913 celebrations where tens of thousands are cheering or when the family is having fun together etc. It all beggars belief and yet it's true.
May I ask you, though: what does "тяв-тяв" mean?
Looked up Meow in Russian and got this result....Мяу-Мяу!
тяв!
I just found a huge version of this picture that is 3669 x 4866.
(http://i49.tinypic.com/wissur.jpg)
http://postimage.org/image/cs37igzl1/full/
I am not sure if it has been seen before, but I think this was at the Crimea in 1914: Anastasia, Olga, Nicholas, and Tatiana wait for Maria to fall off the chair and into the water.
(http://www.livadia.org/mashka/images/otma1914_1.jpg)
Haven't seen the last one, thank you! What does the sign say?
Haven't seen the last one, thank you! What does the sign say?
This sucker has tantalized me since edubs first asked and now I think I have the answer. With a little ingenuity and luck I've tracked it down to : "Dear Sasha's Cape". I still can't read the second word , but it's very likely 'dear'. I'm far less certain of its overal location, but there was a skating rink nearby. Think Tsarskoe Selo area. Hope no natural Russian speaker slaps me down on this.Haven't seen the last one, thank you! What does the sign say?
Yargh! You would ask! I'd seen that photo and sign before and wondered. The quality of the photo I'd seen prevented my reading it too well. I thought at first it identified the plant or bush they're standing near. I later saw the sign translated in one of the several Romanov photo albums or books and was pleased to find its meaning. Too bad I've forgotten and can't enlarge the photo enough to say now.
Still I think I know enough now to say it's " Cape of...... Sasha(Alexander)" I think it's some kind of locational sign, but that's not overly helpful I know. I'm sure you'll have ananswer fairly soon.
OMG Dru!!! Stunning!!Thank you!
http://the---governess.tumblr.com/image/42121730643 (http://the---governess.tumblr.com/image/42121730643)
Circa 1911. Can anyone tell which yacht it is?
Here is another one, same day. 1912
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/Standartbrodeesgroupe.jpg
There are much more on the Vyrubova's albums.
If the photos of Tatiana on replies 402 and 404 are from shortly after her 1913 post-typhoid head- shaving (as I think her and Nicholas' looks and positioning in 404 suggest ), then I'm thinking that having her hair cut very short would be a better description of what happened than a complete head shaving.
WOW.
Where was this taken? And where did you find it?
WOW.
Where was this taken? And where did you find it?
WOW.
Where was this taken? And where did you find it?
This photos were scanned by " one person " from albums that are in Moscow State archive.
There are many unknown albums in ihis archive , but they are not allowed to scan :(
It's seems that Tatiana has her hair freshly cut ans looks a bit sick. Perhaps some day at the end of march in Tsarskoe? Or this room does not match with any AP's rooms?
I believe it's Nicholas & Alexandra's bedroom in Livadia:Excellent catch...TN is sitting on the sofa arm and the photographer is sitting in the little char imo
....Olga is sitting on the sofa at the end of the beds.
I believe it's Nicholas & Alexandra's bedroom in Livadia:
Great photo! I say Olga.
It's strikingly similar to Olga's pose here:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/Abroad/th_romania2_zps31b4be54.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/sarahelizabethii/media/Romanov/Abroad/romania2_zps31b4be54.jpg.html)
and then photo of Olga holding Anna's niece
Which location though? Peterhof?
I saw those costume ones Tumblr last night! They're amazing.lol that's why I have" AP forum " on most of them People forget where they started from otherwise lol
I saw those costume ones Tumblr last night! They're amazing.lol that's why I have" AP forum " on most of them People forget where they started from otherwise lol
Wow! Have you got a fuller version please? I'd like to see the man near her as usual)))
Looks like there's full version (http://www.imagebam.com/image/53e7c5268302597) in Beinecke Album 3(p. 44).Is Anna Vyrubova on the photo as well? (I am trying to guess the year). She suffered terrible train accident in early 1915.
1914 imho.
Nice size. click on the photo for the full sizeNo, seriously, where and when this photo must have been taken? Should I guess at Livadia? Or at Finland in 1913/4?
http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/e/_/e_gerontidy/Tatiana-05.jpg
I do believe they sported those two color shoes to make their large feet look smaller lol
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5539/rpi4.jpg
Has anybody seen this? If yes, is there someone who has this in bigger size? Please post it, and thank you very much in advance!
I think this has been uploaded by TatianaZ in her albums but the internet here is unfriendly to radikal.ru website :'(
http://s017.radikal.ru/i438/1311/55/7920df504a0d.jpg
Quotehttp://s017.radikal.ru/i438/1311/55/7920df504a0d.jpg
Tatiana, do you have information on place and date of the last photo? Was it taken in 1912?
Looks like her wig, so I'm guessing it's 1913.I think you are right - thank you!
I have that marked as May of 1913.
She looks so regal. Olga was always the proper Grand Duchess in her formal photos, but Tatiana had such an air of elegance about her. It was almost otherwordly.
She had such great dedication to whatever task was at hand, it's awe inspiring ...no wonder she was nicknamed The Governess"...and look at her determination to knit at 2 or so! Amazing
Also - for the first time I can see her necklace well. Interesting piece!
Me either. Did it show up on Beinecke?
I can't tell for sure, but I think that Olga's cat's name is known.
There was a cat named Vaska, too. If memory serves, Vaska was Olga's cat.
I wonder if Tatiana had a cat?
And this one? Taken in the Crimea too?
Stunning!Totally agree with you. She's so beautiful here.
As for the first picture on this page, I would label it as Tatiana in the South, in 1916, during their official war trip.I agree, since the background seems to be somewhat like the port. Like the one at Sevastopole's, for example.
This one is new to me
http://www.vladmuseum.ru/upload/medialibrary/c1e/c1e5edad73e2a844e8f2bd850c111006.JPG
Now I *think* this is Tatiana holding Ortipo, but I could be wrong...
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/236/467/ed42417f47_99971948_o2.jpg)
Source https://fotki.yandex.ru/users/eavm/albums/
Olga and Tatiana with their grandmother
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/236/467/ed42417f47_99971948_o2.jpg)
while Tatiana was all like Alexandra
It was Olga who favored her father's family side, while Tatiana was all like Alexandra.
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/95f5fdc9146c98fb6e2dc040891c8209/tumblr_njiivkRbPT1s8tajho2_1280.jpg)
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Trying to, Tim! ;-)
With Alexei and Amama
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/490/286/aa70f3627a_100323904_o2.jpg)
The original caption on the RCT website was "Marie", but I disagree. One look in the face and I am 100% positive this is Tatiana. (furthermore RCT often gets the descriptions wrong - they even managed to identify Marie Fyodorovna and Queen Alexandra as Xenia and Victoria!). I don´t think she is too small either. First of all she is leaning back, second of all here is a comparisn photo from the same day:
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/534/840/c3559f01ba_100303357_o2.jpg)
Alexei and Tatiana have the same height difference in both pictures.
Trying to, Tim! ;-)
With Alexei and Amama
(http://nd06.jxs.cz/490/286/aa70f3627a_100323904_o2.jpg)
The grand duchess in this photo looks too small to be Tatiana--I'd say it's Marie.
But the girl too is bended in the first picture, not just Alexei.
Well, I´m afraid we will have to disagree on this one. The face is clearly Tatiana to me.
Another Anastasia.
All these people having the same names as OTMA. How did they ever keep track!?
Does anyone else think Tatiana looks a lot like her great-grandmother, Empress Maria Alexandrovna, in that last photo?
How beautiful! I love to see photos of Tatiana smiling like that!
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/99ae9619ba42d4de7d71d063ff64ed1e/tumblr_nl1j591uru1upjnawo2_1280.jpg)
Peterhof, 1912
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/df5467710e3df4d25feae0b92c849392/tumblr_nl7xvaZVxE1upjnawo1_1280.jpg)
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Well you certainly answered him in the most direct way. The Marilyn Montoe comparison, while I get it, isn't terribly fair in my opinion. I look at the faces of these girls and see a pair of incorruptible spirits. Of course they're beautiful. Right or wrong, sagas play out as such. But it's much more than that. Its haunting! These photos are the retrieved artifacts of a lost world. An existence so equally unique and bizarre. Amazing to think it could have a taken place within the last 35-40,000 days ago
The more photos I see of them, the more mundane they seem to me.
Peterhof, 1913
The more photos I see of them, the more mundane they seem to me.
The more photos I see of them, the more mundane they seem to me.
And the more mundane NAOTMAA seem to me, the more fascinating does Russia itself seem.
The more photos I see of them, the more mundane they seem to me.
And the more mundane NAOTMAA seem to me, the more fascinating does Russia itself seem.
I'm fairly certainly I'm going to regret asking you this...but how so?
The more photos I see of them, the more mundane they seem to me.
And the more mundane NAOTMAA seem to me, the more fascinating does Russia itself seem.
I'm fairly certainly I'm going to regret asking you this...but how so?
LOL, you know me now!
Maybe because all these endless pictures of each other make them appear self-centred, like modern selfie teens? It also underlines how they lived in a cocoon. And crossing breaking out of this shell, crossing this boundary seems so fascinating. My homeland Norway shares a border with Russia, but the country on the other side is as strange to me as Deep Russia must have been to NAOTMAA.
Has any child lived a more bizarre existence than the last Tsarevich of Russia?
I would say they were sheltered, but hardly "prisoners". At least after reading Helen Azar´s books, one can see the girls actually had plenty of contact with other people. In fact, I don´t think other Princesses of the time had much more interaction either. Had the war not happened, the girls would have made their social debuts, would have time for suitors, maybe even travelling.
Preved) I'm saying Alexei's existence was "Bizarre" not necessarily "Bad". Serial killers don't have the extreme elements in their life like Alexei had. On one hand a celebrated icon showered with adulation and affection. On the other the victim of often excruciating physical pain and last in a centuries old line of Russian royalty caught in the eye of a revolutionary storm. Serial killers, at best, grow up in anonymous middle class homes, and at worse in hellish conditions. They don't get bowed to by ministers and military leaders one moment, then find themselves laid up in bed suffering from some rare disease the next. When your inner circle includes such as extremes as distinguished heads of state and Grigory Rasputin...and the time line of your life includes such as extremes as being born a Prince in a palace to then dying a prisoner in a dirty basement, in less than fourteen years time, that's how you know you've lived one of the most uniquely peculiar existences in the history of the world.
Often, ironically, as having "megalomania", i.e. they think themselves vastly superior to others (yet feeling intolerably inferior) and thus with permission to harm people they don't like. I.e. conditions which would be very similar to Alexey's actual existence, minus the love that probably cured him of such ideas.
I realize I'm being pedantic, but I'd hesitate to say "cured," which implies that Aleksei had these inclinations.
Just as you say about Alexei not thinking there was much out of the ordinary about his own life however, so too does a madman often believe their actions and their lack of respect for human life to be perfectly normal.
Does ISIS consider their own actions absurd? Of course not. They consider the majority of the rest of the world wrong and necessary to purge.
Рейд “Штандарт”, 1910 год
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(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4412/98255750.e/0_149d95_ed87128d_orig)
Does anyone else think Tatiana looks a lot like her great-grandmother, Empress Maria Alexandrovna, in that last photo?
Does anyone else think Tatiana looks a lot like her great-grandmother, Empress Maria Alexandrovna, in that last photo?
Dru, I've thought that for years.. The eyes, the narrow face, and at times; the haunted look...it's obvious...but one must view pictures of the younger Maria Alexandrovna to see it clearly...btw Maria Alexandrovna was the ghost Olga saw as a small child . When her nanny, Margarette Eagar, said she did not see the figure , Olga said " well you must be very stupid because she was right there " lol Of course in 1903 the Little Pair saw a ghost doctor enter Little Ella's room too...and were terrified
Sooo much thanks for the showers of treasures to everyone of you who post new photos
And that's Voronov, isn't it?
And that's Voronov, isn't it?
Yes.
Царское Село, 1915 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 67 об. фото 997
Крым, Ореанда (?), 1914 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 46 об. фото 676
The description says Tsarskoe Selo but isn't this Peterhof or something? I've seen photos from a big sunny room in Peterhof with similar furniture.These two were taken in July of 1914 actually, as far as I remember. The one with G. Mountbatten too. But the others were most likely taken in 1915, the ones of OTM alone near the balcony.
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20troops_zpswgsc8t7r.jpg
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20otma_zpstwvisxgw.jpg
The description says Tsarskoe Selo but isn't this Peterhof or something? I've seen photos from a big sunny room in Peterhof with similar furniture.These two were taken in July of 1914 actually, as far as I remember. The one with G. Mountbatten too. But the others were most likely taken in 1915, the ones of OTM alone near the balcony.
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20troops_zpswgsc8t7r.jpg
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/joibkb/1915/1915%20otma_zpstwvisxgw.jpg
You know, it is famous '1914 or 1915 dilemma'. :-( I wish we could know the real answer. If it was 1915, O and T would likely be seen in their nurse uniforms but it is not always the pointer.
She in fact started to wear her hair up in 1914 for some reason before her 16th birthday, see:
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/th_91402790_OM1915_2_zps5hkmqqm0.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/91402790_OM1915_2_zps5hkmqqm0.jpg.html)(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/th_9af0b03db5f5t_zpsp0kprdt9.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/9af0b03db5f5t_zpsp0kprdt9.jpg.html)(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/th_b30ce9e91cd340426b2ee4c04e023544_zpszhnfncsx.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/nemanjapr/media/b30ce9e91cd340426b2ee4c04e023544_zpszhnfncsx.jpg.html)
So she started to put her hair up when the war started? Because there are a lot of photos of her with her hair down in 1914.Yes, during June she was wearing her hair down and then all of sudden, she started wearing it up.
In the 1914 formal photo shoot for example and when they went to Romania the same year.
But why are we talking about years? I was just doubting these new photos were taken at Tsarskoe Selo XDSince date is as important as place. :-) In come cases it can even be more significant. Yes, it is one more dilemma, called 'Tsarskoe or Peterhof'.
The description says Tsarskoe Selo but isn't this Peterhof or something? I've seen photos from a big sunny room in Peterhof with similar furniture.
I've always been under the impression that these photos were taken out on Alexandra's balcony.
Царское Село, 1915 годmost appealing.
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 67 об. фото 1002
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I think it's great. You just know one or more of the sisters was behind this. Getting the normally serious "Governess" to be the focus of such a silly photo, while reading no less, is quite an accomplishment! Playful and endearing.
Tatiana always seems so unearthly, elfine in all her photographs, no matter if they are from early 1900s or the war. Her sisters were all very much real-looking, but she looks strangely fairy-like all the time.
Tatiana always seems so unearthly, elfine in all her photographs, no matter if they are from early 1900s or the war. Her sisters were all very much real-looking, but she looks strangely fairy-like all the time.
Tatiana always seems so unearthly, elfine in all her photographs, no matter if they are from early 1900s or the war. Her sisters were all very much real-looking, but she looks strangely fairy-like all the time.
Truly and well said. Well done, Ally for your analysis. What would you tell about OMA's expressions and impressions in the photos, from your point of a view?
I'm guessing on the Standart.
Татьяна Николаевна на даче “Мечта”. Евпатория, 16 мая 1916 г.
ГА РФ, ф. 683 оп. 1 д. 125 л. 8 фото 109
http://geglov2.narod.ru/photo/?photo=4348
Так и не понял Могилев или Царское Село-?
I did not understand the grave or Tsarskoye Selo-?
That is an absolutely stunning photo! Thank you!
Татьяна Николаевна на Штандарте, 1913 год
ГА РФ, ф. 640 оп. 3 д. 25 л. 39 фото 550
Gorgeous, Dru! Thank you!Indeed. New to me and a fine pic of a youngish, curious Tatiana.
Baby Tatiana(https://68.media.tumblr.com/43b6554482403f81c90c587d04166950/tumblr_orlns9DClA1rh07xwo1_500.jpg)
Thanks to whoever crossed some of them out, but at least you can still see their faces.
Thanks to whoever crossed some of them out, but at least you can still see their faces.
I believe the one who did the crossing out was in charge of deciding which photos would be used for public images.
Never seen this one before.
She does look like Tatiana. And it's at a distance.