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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna => Topic started by: amartin71718 on July 02, 2010, 04:41:46 PM

Title: Ella Quotes
Post by: amartin71718 on July 02, 2010, 04:41:46 PM
I'm looking for any interesting quotes said by Ella. You can post either single quotes or exchanges between her and another person. They can be funny, serious, weird, whatever works. Thanks!
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 04, 2010, 03:31:28 PM
"She drove me away like a dog ! Poor Nicky ! Poor Russia !" Ella said that after her last meeting with her sister Alicky, Tsarina of Russia. They never met again.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Olga Maria on July 09, 2010, 12:04:32 AM
"You don't know that by killing him you were killing me".
Ella said to Kalyayev (murderer of Sergei) when she visited him in prison.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 09, 2010, 10:25:45 AM
That is intertesting I never heard that quote before. I thought the conversation between them was quite private.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: AnastasiaNikolaevna on July 27, 2010, 09:09:27 AM
"She drove me away like a dog ! Poor Nicky ! Poor Russia !" Ella said that after her last meeting with her sister Alicky, Tsarina of Russia. They never met again.

Sorry, I'm so new to the AP! What did Ella say that made Alexandra angry?
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 27, 2010, 11:45:02 AM
Opening her eyes to Rasputin.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: AnastasiaNikolaevna on July 27, 2010, 12:37:55 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 27, 2010, 12:52:16 PM
Welcome. Ella & Rasputin were enemies, she think of him as the devil.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: AnastasiaNikolaevna on July 27, 2010, 01:07:41 PM
Ahhh, ok. I don't know much at all about Ella, more just Alix, but I knew they were very good friends up until Ella said that. Do you know what her exact quote, or something like it, was when she confronted Alix? Thanks!
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 27, 2010, 08:01:28 PM
The conversation was not known in its entirety. When Ella brought up the subject of Rasputin, she hit a brick wall. Ella said saidly "It might be better had I not come." Alicky said icily "Yes". She called for a motor to send Ella back. They never saw each other again.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: AnastasiaNikolaevna on July 28, 2010, 07:25:49 AM
Ahh, ok. It's such a shame---Ella and Alix were best friends!
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 28, 2010, 07:54:29 AM
They remained sisters, but badly strained in relations. Alicky was a mother trying to save her son, she felt Ella did not understood her. VMH understood Alicky's anguish while Ella (who was childless) did not.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Olga Maria on July 30, 2010, 12:33:36 AM
"You don't know that by killing him you were killing me".
Ella said to Kalyayev (murderer of Sergei) when she visited him in prison.
That is intertesting I never heard that quote before. I thought the conversation between them was quite private.
I thought that quote came from a book… Give me time to look for the website where I found it.

They remained sisters, but badly strained in relations. Alicky was a mother trying to save her son, she felt Ella did not understood her. VMH understood Alicky's anguish while Ella (who was childless) did not.

I wonder if Ella knew that Rasputin was the “only one” who could cure Alexei (or the one whose prayers for Alexei could be heard by God). If she did know, maybe, she would have not asked Alix to let go of Rasputin.

Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 30, 2010, 01:15:02 AM
To Ella, Rasputin was pure evil. She once complained she cannot pray for some reason, and somebody saw Rasputin slip into the church. Ella only began to feel peace again once he left. It would seem that even his presence was disruptive to Ella.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Belochka on July 30, 2010, 01:22:41 AM
... She once complained she cannot pray for some reason, and somebody saw Rasputin slip into the church. Ella only began to feel peace again once he left. It would seem that even his presence was disruptive to Ella.

Can you please provide the precise source for this information?

Thanks
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 30, 2010, 08:46:31 AM
This quote is actually taken from another thread in this forum. I think the source was either Marie Paulovna the younger or Zinaida Yussopv. I will try to look it up again. I think it is quite fantastic. Like another of Rasputin jumping up and down on a photo of Ella calling it "Lisabeth ! She is my enemy !" I read this from other books.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Belochka on July 31, 2010, 01:38:41 AM
To Ella, Rasputin was pure evil. She once complained she cannot pray for some reason, and somebody saw Rasputin slip into the church. Ella only began to feel peace again once he left. It would seem that even his presence was disruptive to Ella.

This quote is actually taken from another thread in this forum. I think the source was either Marie Paulovna the younger or Zinaida Yussopv. I will try to look it up again. I think it is quite fantastic. Like another of Rasputin jumping up and down on a photo of Ella calling it "Lisabeth ! She is my enemy !" I read this from other books.

These quotes are certainly "fantastic" in every sense of the word!

Of course they are just foolish tales. The real pity is that someone reading them in a book, might even believe them to be true!
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 01, 2010, 10:23:15 PM
I am not so sure about discounting the evil about Rasputin. She and him were really enemies.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on November 04, 2010, 04:18:37 AM

"Here at Ilinskoe we go for long walks - lately one lasted for about two hours. We walked in the woods and together with Fräulein Schneider I got completely lost. In order to find the others who were about to drive back home we ran so fast that we managed to pass a walk of 3/4 hours in thirty minutes!. As a result I looked wonderfully red and my feet are encrusted with blisters. But all in all it was very nice and at the tea table I ate and drunk twice as much as usually - and they said I looked healthy and burnt by the sun"
1885
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Ella von Hessen on November 04, 2010, 10:00:47 AM
«Ныне трудно найти правду на Земле,
затопляемой все сильнее греховными волнами;
чтобы не разочароваться в жизни, надо правду
искать на Небе, куда она ушла от нас.»
________________________________________________
"Now the truth is hard to find on Earth,
engulfed by stronger waves of sinfulness;
not to be disappointed in life we have the truth
seek in heaven, where she passed away. "
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Svetabel on November 12, 2010, 11:55:32 PM
"I have a nature of a dog - when I suffer, I hide  myself". (From a letter to Princess Yusupova, 1909 year)
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 15, 2010, 12:24:51 PM
Really...when she was driven after a bad interview with Alicky, she met up with the cousins and cried "She drove me away like a dog".
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Svetabel on November 16, 2010, 12:10:45 AM
Really...when she was driven after a bad interview with Alicky, she met up with the cousins and cried "She drove me away like a dog".

My quote doesn't have anything similar with that conversation of two sisters.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 16, 2010, 08:58:56 AM
Ella said she had the nature of a dog, why did she minded being driven away like a dog ? Just a pun on words used. She most certainly did not hide after that hurtful audience but report to her relatives for sympathy.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on November 26, 2010, 01:45:24 PM
"Ich grüße Dich und ich lese jetzt von Rüben. Es giebt weiße und rothe Rüben. Rüben sind anders wie Rosen, Rosen kann man nicht essen. Baroness Grancy hat Zahnschmerzen."
1870
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Olga Maria on November 26, 2010, 11:49:23 PM
Thank you soo much to all of you who posted quotes of our dear Ella!
Thomas, may you please translate the quote above? Thank you very much in advance!
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on December 13, 2010, 12:14:58 PM
I transalated it on Google Transalator, and what I got was very strange!
"I greet you and I read now from beets. There are white and red beets. Beets are different as roses, roses can not eat. Grancy Baroness has a toothache." 
Who is Grancy Baroness?
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on December 13, 2010, 04:10:49 PM
The correct translation is:
"I greet you and I'm now reading about beets. There are white and red beets. Beets are different than roses, roses one cannot eat. Baroness Grancy has a toothache."  

She was obviously reading about agriculture and the distinction between white and red beets made her think of roses.
Baroness Grancy must have been a Hessian courtier related to Baron August von Senarclens de Grancy, the lover of her great grandmother Grand Duchess Wilhelmine.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: MademoiselleAndrea on December 13, 2010, 04:21:35 PM
I see. Makes sense now.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 13, 2010, 04:43:58 PM
Interesting how she whent from plants to people so quickly. She must have an active mind.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Svetabel on December 14, 2010, 01:28:30 AM
Interesting how she whent from plants to people so quickly. She must have an active mind.

That's a letter of a child. Nothing special for a such age, children write what they think and see just at the moment.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Naslednik Norvezhskiy on December 14, 2010, 01:52:47 AM
That's a letter of a child. Nothing special for a such age, children write what they think and see just at the moment.

Yes, very true. Anybody who has marked or just read some school children's essays knows these abrupt leaps of thought very well. And they don't even write "And by the way....". That's why they must be taught "text binding" or whatever it is called in English.

BTW (oh, I'm sooo grown-up) one can interpret this nonsensical little message in a rather tragic way considering her future: She was pretty like the roses, married a handsome prince and embarked upon a rosy imperial existence, but the thin, fragile roses of romance won't feed your (spiritual) hunger..... Heavy, dirty, grim beets, that's what's (spiritual) nourishment.

Now who is going to adopt this as their I♥EllaVonHessen4Ever signature line: Es giebt weiße und rothe Rüben. Rüben sind anders wie Rosen, Rosen kann man nicht essen. ? -:)
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on December 14, 2010, 03:56:06 AM
Having read all the letters she wrote to her father I must say that she was neither very eloquent nor a grammar buff...
Her elder sister writes far (!) more interestingly - and with correct orthography
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 14, 2010, 04:39:37 PM
Of course VMH was a great chatter-box and sometime even her husband had trouble shutting her up...Ella was more spiritual and later became more religious.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on December 15, 2010, 03:07:43 AM
But this has nothing to do with your style o writing.
Those letters contain everything but spiritual matters :)
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 15, 2010, 12:59:25 PM
You mean VMH right ? She was very grounded in common sense and had a wicked sense of humour.
Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Olga Maria on December 16, 2010, 09:27:39 PM
From a letter to an old friend (>>Found it here (http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/GDElisabeth.html):

I have been reading the Bible a good deal lately, and if we believe in the sublime sacrifice of God the Father in sending His Son to die and rise again for us, we shall feel the Holy Spirit lighting our way, and our joy will become eternal, even if our poor human hearts and earthly minds pass through moments which seem terrible.

Title: Re: Ella Quotes
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 17, 2010, 04:58:58 PM
What an inspirational quoate !  ;)