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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Balkan Royal Families => Topic started by: Carolath Habsburg on October 16, 2010, 12:55:19 PM

Title: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 16, 2010, 12:55:19 PM
I dont know the exactly date but surely she was in her first years of marriage with Ferdinand.

(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6492/mmmaarriee.jpg)

Here s another

(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8301/21345b.jpg) (http://img251.imageshack.us/i/21345b.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 18, 2010, 10:45:34 AM
and another one : )

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/654/0037zum.jpg) (http://img259.imageshack.us/i/0037zum.jpg/)

Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 18, 2010, 10:50:59 AM
That one is cute!! do you know the year those pictures were taken?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 18, 2010, 01:56:14 PM
Thanks Katenka!!
They were taken at Cotroceni Palace!! The year was 1893  : )
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Marc on October 24, 2010, 10:18:36 AM
Can anyone tell me who is the "Fräulein" Marie mentions in her biography who was living with them in Coburg and became very close to her mother?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 24, 2010, 12:24:22 PM
Do you mean her German governess ?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: historyfan on October 24, 2010, 08:41:16 PM
I've read about this, but don't have the book at hand, and so if anyone can fill in the missing details....

There was a certain man that Marie wrote about, who was an advisor to her mother along the lines of a Sir John Conroy to Queen Victoria's mother.  This man married the Fraulein, who was (I think) a governess to Marie and her siblings.  This couple treated the children wonderfully in front of her mother, horribly when they were out of her sight.  The man saved his "best" for Marie's brother Alfred (who would die in 1899 after a botched suicide attempt).

It was only after the children involved their father, that the pair of reprehensibles were ousted from the household (after a long, bitter fight with Marie Alexandrovna).
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Svetabel on October 24, 2010, 11:06:22 PM
Can anyone tell me who is the "Fräulein" Marie mentions in her biography who was living with them in Coburg and became very close to her mother?

"Fräulein" was Esperanza von Truchsess von Weltzhausen, from impoverished junker family of a Prussian origin. She became a governess in 1887, and in 1889 married Alfred-junior's tutor, Dr.Rolfs. In 1893 both Rolfs and Esperanza left the Coburg court thanks to efforts of Duke Alfred. Actually it was Rolfs who was dismissed, his wife just followed him.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Marc on October 25, 2010, 10:24:54 AM
Thank you for that...I started reading her memoirs and so far she mentions her only as "Fräulein"...at least that's how it's translated into my language!


She might have been a cousin of Bertha,Countess von Orttenburg,nee Truchsess von Wetzhausen,wife of morganatic scion of Ortenburg family that obtained the title of Count in 1830...
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 25, 2010, 11:08:38 AM
Why was Dr. Rolfs dismissed and where did he go afterwards with his wife ?  :o
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: historyfan on October 25, 2010, 09:39:15 PM
Can anyone tell me who is the "Fräulein" Marie mentions in her biography who was living with them in Coburg and became very close to her mother?

"Fräulein" was Esperanza von Truchsess von Weltzhausen, from impoverished junker family of a Prussian origin. She became a governess in 1887, and in 1889 married Alfred-junior's tutor, Dr.Rolfs. In 1893 both Rolfs and Esperanza left the Coburg court thanks to efforts of Duke Alfred. Actually it was Rolfs who was dismissed, his wife just followed him.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Svetabel on October 26, 2010, 12:33:14 AM
Why was Dr. Rolfs dismissed and where did he go afterwards with his wife ?  :o

Eric...sometimes you really astound me. Never read Queen Marie's memoirs or heard anything about Alfred-junior's suffering becouse of harsh Dr.Rolfs aka Dr. X in Marie's memoirs?

I don't know where Rolfs-Truchsess went after his dismissal but the reasons were quite clear - he did more bad than good in Alfred's education. Duchess Marie adored Rolfs' scholar ways, but others in the family hated him.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 26, 2010, 09:32:44 AM
Well Marie Coburg could be blind to those she trusted.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: miki_nastya on October 29, 2010, 07:36:08 AM
 Today 29 October is Missy's Birthday...happy birhday !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 29, 2010, 02:48:33 PM
Happy Birthday, Marie!!!

Here in England. 1925

(http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/2865/england1925.jpg) (http://img813.imageshack.us/i/england1925.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Princess Ileana on October 30, 2010, 10:05:42 AM
From Diana Mandache weblog....

http://royalromania.wordpress.com/ (http://royalromania.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: slavona on November 06, 2010, 02:45:18 PM
(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/ReginaMariainDelta.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 06, 2010, 03:18:55 PM
With Nando I think...
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: slavona on November 07, 2010, 05:22:24 AM
With Nando I think...
yes
(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/missyileana.jpg)
with Ileana or Mircea
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 07, 2010, 05:48:34 AM
That doesnt looks like Mircea. I think its Ileana

Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: THERRY on November 07, 2010, 09:19:14 AM
She is Ileana certainly
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: slavona on November 07, 2010, 10:57:28 AM
(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/1919-1.jpg)
1919 in Transilvania-I know i posted it but now it is bigger
(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/regina-maria-alaturi-de-raniti.jpg)
 in WW I
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: slavona on November 09, 2010, 07:34:55 AM
(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/ReginaMariasiinfirmierelevoluntare.jpg)

(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/ReginaMariaalaturidemilitariiraniti.jpg)

2 more with or as a nurse ( Red Cross ) WWI
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 09, 2010, 10:11:50 AM
I think the first one was taken years later than the one below. She looked much older in the photo.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: slavona on November 09, 2010, 12:17:07 PM
I think the first one was taken years later than the one below. She looked much older in the photo.
the first one is called " The Queen and the volunteer nurses " but not the year. It could be from a commemoration ,years later
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: slavona on November 11, 2010, 07:57:00 AM

(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/06-expozitii.jpg)

(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/2.jpg)

visiting the front in1919 with Ferdinand
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: slavona on November 11, 2010, 07:58:19 AM
(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/3.jpg)
 the hospital in Moldova in 1917
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: slavona on November 11, 2010, 07:59:52 AM
(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/1.jpg)
still 1919
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 12, 2010, 12:23:10 PM
Was her uniform her only form of clothing during the war ?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 12, 2010, 04:52:16 PM
Little Marie

(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/1315/granger0068648preview.jpg) (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/granger0068648preview.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: slavona on November 15, 2010, 09:16:42 AM
(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/Seattle_QueenMarieOfRomania_RooseveltHS1926.jpg)
    Seattle 1926

(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/Queen-Maries-arrival-to-Denver.jpg)
        arrival to Denver

(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/Queen-Marie-of-Rumania-visiting-Denver.jpg)
   visiting Denver 1926
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 15, 2010, 11:29:18 AM
I think it is enough photos to make a book on Missy's travels alone...
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 15, 2010, 01:14:52 PM
There is a very nice album about her travel to America (2009, Romanian language only) with many, many pics.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 15, 2010, 01:15:29 PM
Is it still in print ?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: slavona on November 27, 2010, 03:56:20 AM
(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/Queen-Marie-of-Rumania-in-car-with-son-in-Denver.jpg)
             Denver 1926

(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/Queen-Marie-of-Rumania-at-Union-Station-standing-in-car-with-her-is-L-Ward-Bannister.jpg)
   1926 with L Ward Bannister

(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/Queen-Marie-of-Rumania-at-the-Brown-Palace-Hotel.jpg)
        1926 at the Brown Palace Hotel
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: slavona on November 27, 2010, 04:06:12 AM
(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/Queen-Marie-of-Rumania-at-Denver-Union-Station.jpg)
 at Denver Union Station


(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/image1.jpg)
    maybe in USA
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on December 05, 2010, 04:00:13 AM
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7743/455w.png) (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/455w.png/)

a pretty miniature
from The Royal Collection!!
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 05, 2010, 12:40:52 PM
Was it done for Queen Victoria ?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on December 05, 2010, 12:48:01 PM
Another lovely one from the same source:
(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5502/hfdy.png) (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/hfdy.png/) 1881


Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 05, 2010, 03:38:31 PM
Maria and her beloved Grandson Peter


(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8940/00261731.jpg) (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/00261731.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: KarlandZita on December 09, 2010, 01:57:19 PM
Queen Marie in 1928 :

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/3857041928.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=3857041928.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 03, 2011, 05:56:14 PM
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3794/xdfuyr.jpg) (http://img18.imageshack.us/i/xdfuyr.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 08, 2011, 08:48:21 AM
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2271/fghe57.jpg) (http://img831.imageshack.us/i/fghe57.jpg/)
 
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 08, 2011, 11:16:57 AM
In Romania ?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: KarlandZita on January 14, 2011, 02:15:44 PM
Maria with Carol and Nicolas :

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/729352mariacarolnicolae.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=729352mariacarolnicolae.jpg)

Maria with Mignon and Elizaveta :

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/930185mariamignonelisa.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=930185mariamignonelisa.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: THERRY on January 14, 2011, 03:15:35 PM
Exceptional the first photo! Never before seen Maria alone with two sons  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: KarlandZita on January 15, 2011, 06:06:06 AM
Maria and Carol :

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/846516mariacarol.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=846516mariacarol.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 16, 2011, 09:09:04 AM
(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/582/granger0127107preview.jpg) (http://img841.imageshack.us/i/granger0127107preview.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 16, 2011, 12:22:21 PM
Nice photo. I wonder which palace is this ?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: KarlandZita on January 23, 2011, 11:04:12 AM
Maria and Ferdiannd at two various times :

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/585557mariaferdinand.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=585557mariaferdinand.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/182749mariasiferdinand.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=182749mariasiferdinand.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on February 01, 2011, 02:26:03 PM
with Mircea and Ileana <3 :X

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1700/42731456053ab2ef5d8b.jpg) (http://img841.imageshack.us/i/42731456053ab2ef5d8b.jpg/)

Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eutropius on February 09, 2011, 12:15:39 PM
An anecdote about Queen Marie from Daniel Clifton's book Lords, Ladies, and Gentlemen....  Queen Marie came to call on Princess Tatiana Konstantinovna Bagration-Mukhransky (KR's granddaughter) and her children in Belgrade.  Queen Marie was dressed in black mourning clothes.   Princess Tatiana's young daughter, Princess Natasha, hid and mistaking Queen Marie for the angel of death, "pointed to her mother and said, "Take her instead"" (Clifton 46-47) .
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on February 10, 2011, 11:25:38 PM
lol thats cute. i wonder if any photos where taken of the event of Princess Tatiana Bagration-Mukhransky and her children at the Romanian court.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Svetabel on March 16, 2011, 07:11:00 AM
Crownprincess Marie.

(http://i54.tinypic.com/14xdmok.jpg)

There was a photosession of her in this dress.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: slavona on March 18, 2011, 08:59:40 AM
(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/Goldendale_MaryhillMuseum_QueenMarie1926.jpg)
    USA

(http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b449/nastya3/1036-2.jpg)
  at Maryhill Museum
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: slavona on March 18, 2011, 11:48:15 AM
(http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z369/natalyromanov/2884834786_a43d5eb824_z.jpg)

(http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z369/natalyromanov/4273890764_bd8d7f4073.jpg)
       Alba Iulia 1922


(http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z369/natalyromanov/4430012266_9729ccab1d.jpg)
  a large family maybe 1924
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Svetabel on April 10, 2011, 03:32:10 AM


(http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z369/natalyromanov/4430012266_9729ccab1d.jpg)
  a large family maybe 1924

1922 year.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 10, 2011, 08:17:46 AM
That last one is from Mignon`s wedding, right?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Svetabel on April 10, 2011, 10:44:47 AM
That last one is from Mignon`s wedding, right?

Right.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on April 12, 2011, 08:10:19 AM
I have a question: where is the topic on the portraits of the Romanian Royals...I cannot find it. :-(
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 12, 2011, 08:27:56 AM
i searched for it and i didnt find it. Maybe it was merged?

young Marie

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7874/spdihfspodh.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/spdihfspodh.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Svetabel on April 12, 2011, 08:57:02 AM
I have a question: where is the topic on the portraits of the Romanian Royals...I cannot find it. :-(

The topic was splitted and every portrait was merged with the proper topics on various Romanian Roylas.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on April 15, 2011, 07:45:04 PM
Smiling Marie and Mihai

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9918/465311649o.jpg) (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/465311649o.jpg/)
 
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: THERRY on April 16, 2011, 04:11:51 PM
Marie was one of the few Royal smiling in the picture, beautiful
(http://i54.tinypic.com/fk1sg0.jpg)
This Photo is on EBay
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Douglas on April 17, 2011, 07:01:40 PM
Queen Marie was one of the most royal queens ever.  She was dripping with attitude.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Svetabel on April 26, 2011, 01:53:31 PM
Marie and Ferdinand at the time of their engagement with Marie's sisters - Alexandra and Beatrice

(http://www.picatom.com/1w/Untitled131-1-th.jpg) (http://www.picatom.com/1w/Untitled131-1.html)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: THERRY on April 27, 2011, 02:50:20 AM
I like these photographs informal and almost intimate. Thank you new for me
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Post by: KarlandZita on April 29, 2011, 05:13:19 PM
Queen Marie with her two daughters Elisabeth and Mignon, Hotel Ritz, 1919 :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/677770hotelritz1919.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=677770hotelritz1919.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: KarlandZita on April 30, 2011, 08:50:48 AM
Queen Marie and King Ferdinand, in Paris, 1925 :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/625160marieferdinandartsdecoratifds1925paris.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=625160marieferdinandartsdecoratifds1925paris.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on May 01, 2011, 04:14:22 AM
Smiling Queen Maria :-)

(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6277/maria0187.jpg) (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/maria0187.jpg/)

Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: THERRY on May 01, 2011, 05:05:57 AM
Very Very nice  :) :)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: voyageroffreedom on May 06, 2011, 01:56:12 PM
Queen Marie:
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/Queen%20Marie%20of%20Romania/th_QueenMarie1937.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/Queen%20Marie%20of%20Romania/?action=view&current=QueenMarie1937.jpg)
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/Queen%20Marie%20of%20Romania/th_queenmarie1928.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/Queen%20Marie%20of%20Romania/?action=view&current=queenmarie1928.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on May 22, 2011, 03:22:46 PM
Marie and baby Ileana

(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5637/asehsae.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/asehsae.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: voyageroffreedom on May 30, 2011, 07:20:27 AM
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n600/v0yag3r/Queen%20Marie%20of%20Romania/CU-ABS-996f.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on May 30, 2011, 08:20:52 AM
Does anyone has this one bigger? Thanks in advanced

Crowning,. 1922

(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/3850/kgrhqeokime3vnwshvbn2r3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/kgrhqeokime3vnwshvbn2r3.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: THERRY on June 09, 2011, 09:57:08 AM
It's a wonderful photo ! Here she was in USA 1926
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: KarlandZita on June 13, 2011, 06:57:38 AM
Queens Marie of Romania and Marie of Yugoslavia in Longchamps :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/419743marieroumaniemignonlongchamps.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=419743marieroumaniemignonlongchamps.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/710786tribunelongchamps.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=710786tribunelongchamps.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 14, 2011, 12:56:26 PM
Queen Marie had an interesting relationship with her daughters (especially with Elisabetta I guess), but Ileana was her favorite.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: miki_nastya on June 14, 2011, 03:31:35 PM
Quote
Queens Marie of Romania and Marie of Yugoslavia in Longchamps :
It looks more like Elisabeth  to me..
 
Quote
With Elizabeth 1925: and this one looks like Mignon
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Svetabel on June 15, 2011, 04:08:07 AM
Quote
Queens Marie of Romania and Marie of Yugoslavia in Longchamps :
It looks more like Elisabeth  to me..
 
Quote
With Elizabeth 1925: and this one looks like Mignon

Agree with you.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 15, 2011, 07:02:00 AM
I think both daughters went to France with their mother.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eurohistory on June 16, 2011, 10:36:36 AM
The picture comes from the collection of Grand Duchess Helen. IN 1925 Elisabeth Greece traveled to Romania with her father and Gottfried, Irma and Alexandra Hohenlohe-Langenburg. There were hopes that prince Nicholas of Romania and Elisabeth Greece would pair up.

and BY THE WAY...this is yet another of my images that you have stolen from Ebay.

Great handiwork!
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 16, 2011, 11:10:07 AM
Well...now you know he is the seller. :-)

Also it would be interesting to know know what Elisabeth or Nicholas thought of each other. It was another Greek Princess (Irene) that broke poor Nicholas's heart.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: grandduchessella on June 16, 2011, 01:11:38 PM
Art--the mods are on top of it as we speak and have been for a couple days. It's just a matter of figuring out what images were from that batch.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 16, 2011, 01:13:44 PM
I think only the two of Marie in France with her daughters.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eddie_uk on July 01, 2011, 01:02:05 PM
New to me!

1892

(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6730/imguaf.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/imguaf.jpg/)

Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: THERRY on July 02, 2011, 11:24:41 AM
And to me too. Tank You for the gift
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 02, 2011, 12:32:24 PM
I love you and your pics, Eddie *0*. Thanks!!
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eddie_uk on July 02, 2011, 12:49:21 PM
Your are welcome Therry & Carloath, thank you! It is a pleasure to share the pictures with people that will appreciate them as much as I do! I always think it's shame when these pictures don't get seen!

Maybe the picture is from Queen Marie's engagement? She certainly looks very pretty & the hair style suits her IMO!
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: THERRY on July 03, 2011, 08:36:25 AM
I think your photo is just before the engagement. This is a scan of the official photo of the engagement, perhaps in 1893.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/4gkt3d.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 04, 2011, 04:08:24 PM
You are right THERRY, That was the official engagement photo session used in most of the newspapers.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on August 01, 2011, 04:50:31 PM
(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/13/qm76.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/691/qm76.png/)The most beautiful Queen  ;D :)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 02, 2011, 07:46:58 AM
With her grandson peter of yugoslavia

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/2781/1fa0bb3ff7e677df6ef2ba1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/1fa0bb3ff7e677df6ef2ba1.jpg/)
 

What a sweet image!!
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 02, 2011, 02:59:10 PM
Yes. Missy loved her grandson and lent a hand from time to time to help him, without overstepping the mark with his mother Mignon.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on August 12, 2011, 06:19:49 PM
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2852/mariareginaromanilor.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/mariareginaromanilor.jpg/)

Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Svetabel on August 14, 2011, 05:47:08 AM
Crownprincess Marie and her husband Ferdinand at the Ball in the National Theater of Bucarest. 1912 year

http://tinypic.com/r/68u8m8/7 (http://tinypic.com/r/68u8m8/7)

courtesy of ANNO database
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 14, 2011, 11:39:51 AM
Queen Marie wore the diamond & pearl tiara that she lost in Russia.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on September 28, 2011, 08:28:32 AM
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4628/970a4a3fa79347cd45b7f42.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/970a4a3fa79347cd45b7f42.jpg/)

DEAREST MISSY

The letters of Marie Alexandrovna, Grand Duchess of Russia, Duchess of Edinburgh and of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, and of her daughter, Marie, Crown Princess of Romania. The Duchess of Edinburgh was a diligent and constant letter-writer. She was also outspoken, humorous and a keen observer. Her letters to her daughter Marie, the future Queen of Romania, have been transcribed and edited by the Romanian historian Diana Mandache. With 40 illustrations. Hardback.


The book is now listed at the Majesty Magazine Shop --> http://shop.majestymagazine.com/shop.php?cat_id=65  :)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 28, 2011, 09:17:26 AM
That would be next on my purchase list.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 02, 2011, 02:30:50 PM
I love the 1st one <3 ...
(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4210/61260290951650802233516.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/508/61260290951650802233516.jpg/) (http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7844/61580192346030169755670.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/266/61580192346030169755670.jpg/)





Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Elisabeth on October 02, 2011, 06:31:15 PM
Has anybody else here been to Marie of Romania's summer palace at Balchik, now in Bulgaria? I went there for the first time last year and it's enchanting. It's not really a palace but a large white stone villa surrounded by other, smaller villas, set in the midst of woods and gardens, overlooking the Black Sea. It's a funny -- interesting, I mean, quirky -- mixture of the royal bourgeois style of the early 20th century and the Bohemian. Cozy but quirky.

The town of Balchik itself is now a very popular place for wealthy Russians to buy property and settle, consequently it has acquired a distinctly Russian feel, which I think is only too appropriate, since Marie was after all the daughter of Grand Duchess Maria Alexandrovna of Russia.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 05, 2011, 07:18:38 AM
Love to see photos of that villa..
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: THERRY on October 05, 2011, 03:44:52 PM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6218/6213301771_09109e649a_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gabry10/6213301771/)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 07, 2011, 12:15:26 PM
Missy wearing her crown and diamond chain (with the huge sapphire). The diamond chain was later inherited by Queen Anne who wore it at her wedding to King Michael of Romania in Athens.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 07, 2011, 01:05:21 PM
(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7374/0091901300x225.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/651/0091901300x225.jpg/)

Ferdinand and Marie ( wearing a very pretty hat )  :-)
ca. 1900
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 07, 2011, 01:20:39 PM
Thanks for sharing. It was a very pretty hat.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 08, 2011, 09:10:51 AM
you're welcome! it comes from www.peles.ro , so all credit to them! :)

Queen Marie busts

(http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/525/mabust.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/mabust.png/)
 
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/483/rszbustulregineimaria.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/rszbustulregineimaria.jpg/)

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Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 08, 2011, 09:26:56 AM
Statue models by Ioan Mihele and Dumitru Paina -- Oradea, September, 2011//

(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3223/crisanastatuireginamari.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/crisanastatuireginamari.jpg/)

(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3223/crisanastatuireginamari.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/crisanastatuireginamari.jpg/)

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(http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/7075/maria75473.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/810/maria75473.png/)

Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 08, 2011, 09:38:01 AM
(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9500/647357.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/801/647357.png/)

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/1391/47655.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/47655.png/)

(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/1479/crisanastatuiereginamar.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/crisanastatuiereginamar.jpg/)

(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1479/crisanastatuiereginamar.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/412/crisanastatuiereginamar.jpg/)

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Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 08, 2011, 01:28:53 PM
Any small busts of Missy for sale ?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 09, 2011, 03:51:49 AM
Any small busts of Missy for sale ?

I've never seen any but it would be super nice to have one in the future...like the small busts of Kaiserin Elisabeth one can buy in Vienna...
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 09, 2011, 08:41:06 AM
Yes. I got a nice one of Sisi in Vienna. You can also find old busts of Queen Victoria or Queen Alexandra in the antigue shops in London. A Queen Marie bust would be a good addition to one's home...
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 23, 2011, 11:25:49 AM
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9485/maria0009.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/maria0009.jpg/)

Another pose from famous sitting :-)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 23, 2011, 02:43:48 PM
I could imagine here wearing it to a party.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: historyfan on October 23, 2011, 08:39:54 PM
That is one dramatic headpiece!

What is she holding? Was it a model of something (looks like a cathedral), or was it actually a box of some sort?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 23, 2011, 09:51:09 PM
I think it was a box looking like a church. Very Medieval in design.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on October 23, 2011, 10:41:07 PM
That is one dramatic headpiece!

What is she holding? Was it a model of something (looks like a cathedral), or was it actually a box of some sort?
 
       I have very, very little interest in this Queen, but I have always felt that she hoped that she had the flair to replicate "romanticized" accessories and stances/poses of the Mediaeval/Byzantine periods in costume, crowns, photographic sessions, etc.
      IMO, as to the box held, it could potentially represent a model (as shown in true Mediaeval/Byzantine art of the periods) of the financially-backed donation of an actual church from herself or the royal family.  Potentially it could also be a reliquary of some sort.  
      In humour (though no one has suggested such), surely she would not be so ostentatious as to display her own jewelry box !                                                                                                                                                                    Regards,  AP.  
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: CountessKate on October 24, 2011, 04:58:13 AM
She looks like a medieval donor or founder of a church or other religious institution - they were often shown with the image of their religious foundation in their hands.  In 'The Lost Royal Portraits of Gerace
and Cefalu Cathedrals' by Mark J Johnson (Dumbarton Oaks Papers, No. 53, 1999), he notes "From at least the sixth century on, the donor holding a model of his foundation is a common theme in the church art of both the East and the West."  The Great Soviet Encyclopedia states that "in medieval and Renaissance art and sometimes in the art of later periods, a representation of the builder of the church holding a model of the structure in his hands or of the patron who had ordered the painting, more rarely, sculpture or work of decorative applied art. The donor usually stands before Christ and the Virgin Mary or the saints."
Here is Pope Honorious :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Onorio_I_-_mosaico_Santa_Agnese_fuori_le_mura.jpg
And the Emperors Justinian and Constantine (Constantine with a model of Constantinople, Justinian with Hagia Sofia):
http://www.medievalwall.com/painting/byzantine-mosaics-hagia-sophia/
Sir Simon de Drayton:
http://www.englishhistoricchurches.co.uk/?p=792

Whether Marie had actually contributed to a religious foundation and was commemorating this, or was just dressing up in a historical costume, the imagery might have been particularly familiar through Russian icons etc. during her early years.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 25, 2011, 06:52:10 AM
And we have  absolutely no interest in your opinion whatsoever!  :)

      I have very, very little interest in this Queen, but I have always felt that she hoped that she had the flair to replicate "romanticized" accessories and stances/poses of the Mediaeval/Byzantine periods in costume, crowns, photographic sessions, etc.
      IMO, as to the box held, it could potentially represent a model (as shown in true Mediaeval/Byzantine art of the periods) of the financially-backed donation of an actual church from herself or the royal family.  Potentially it could also be a reliquary of some sort.  
      In humour (though no one has suggested such), surely she would not be so ostentatious as to display her own jewelry box !                                                                                                                                                                    Regards,  AP.  
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on October 25, 2011, 09:44:41 AM
And we have  absolutely no interest in your opinion whatsoever!  :)

      I have very, very little interest in this Queen, but I have always felt that she hoped that she had the flair to replicate "romanticized" accessories and stances/poses of the Mediaeval/Byzantine periods in costume, crowns, photographic sessions, etc.
      IMO, as to the box held, it could potentially represent a model (as shown in true Mediaeval/Byzantine art of the periods) of the financially-backed donation of an actual church from herself or the royal family.  Potentially it could also be a reliquary of some sort.  
      In humour (though no one has suggested such), surely she would not be so ostentatious as to display her own jewelry box !                                                                                                                                                                    Regards,  AP.  
Many thanks for exercising your individual right of comment!  I'm glad it caught your attention and added some color to your day! Apropos, your use of the regal "We" gave me MY laugh !              Regards,  AP.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 25, 2011, 10:04:41 AM
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3436/maria0001.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/maria0001.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 25, 2011, 10:46:16 AM
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9485/maria0009.jpg

Another pose from famous sitting :-)

And another one (sorry for the low quality of this pic)

(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/8053/reginamaria14.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/reginamaria14.jpg/)


I love this series of pictures, they are definitely among my favourites photos ever taken of Marie.

I read that they were taken in the early 1900s. Marie was a very flamboyant character, to Romanians, however, images like this had great symbolic importance. Each element in the picture has a purpose. The costume evokes Romania’s medieval past. The candelabra give a religious atmosphere, accentuated by the model churgh; in Orthodox  imagery the ancient rulers often held models of the churches they had founded, so in some of the  photographs from this series Marie is shown holding the Church. These photographs would have told ordinary Romanians that their future Queen was identifying herself with their past; She wanted to belong!

As Charlotte Zeepvat notes in one of her wonderful books, ''Flamboyant Marie may have been, but she knew how to use her dramatic flair to enhance her position.''   :)

Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 25, 2011, 02:08:12 PM
Yes. She once said "Let other coronations be modern, let mine be Medieval !"
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: historyfan on October 25, 2011, 08:55:28 PM
Thank you, Laura! That explains what she is holding in the other picture. While I don't love the photos themselves, now that I understand a bit more of the symbolism, I do enjoy that aspect. Fortunately for Marie, she lived in a country that appreciated "dramatic flair". Had she been Queen of a more staid country, it might've gone a bit differently for her.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: CountessKate on October 26, 2011, 03:22:10 AM
Yes, I somehow feel the striking poses and costumes would have gone down very, very badly had Marie married her cousin George and lived in Britain........
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 26, 2011, 01:32:03 PM
Well...Missy did have Queen Elisabeth as an example. Had she married Georgie, she might become a fashion plate like her mother-in-law Queen Alexandra.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 31, 2011, 01:44:24 PM
This photograph is in Charlotte Zeepvat's Queen Victoria's Family  ;) :)

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3637/ortfio.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/ortfio.jpg/)

And this one comes from Tom's Place  :) http://www.tkinter.smig.net/QueenMarie/Gallery/Marie56.htm

(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/5650/marie56.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/marie56.jpg/)


Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Robert_Hall on October 31, 2011, 03:40:10 PM
That was a DRAMA QUEEN  at her best !
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 31, 2011, 04:50:21 PM

That was a DRAMA QUEEN  at her best !


Could you please elaborate on your statement?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Robert_Hall on October 31, 2011, 06:20:25 PM
What is to elaborate ? She was a queen and that photograph was pure theatrical drama. Which, BTW, she was quite well known for.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Vecchiolarry on November 01, 2011, 05:39:52 PM
Hi,

Wow, she looks like something out of the 11th century, not the 19th or 20th!!!!!!!

One might think she was Anna of Kiev, wife of France's Henry I and mother of Philip I......

Larry
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Kalafrana on November 02, 2011, 06:38:33 AM
I agree with Robert. Marie definitely liked to be OTT!

Ann
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 02, 2011, 08:30:57 AM
Hi,

Wow, she looks like something out of the 11th century, not the 19th or 20th!!!!!!!

One might think she was Anna of Kiev, wife of France's Henry I and mother of Philip I......

Larry

I read  that after the end of The Great War, Queen Marie thought of herself as a new Empress Theodora of Byzantium!

http://womenshistory.about.com/od/medbyzantempress/a/theodora.htm

There could be no Coronation until 1922, but when it happened, Marie arranged the ceremony, designed the costumes and chose for herself a high crown similar to this.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 02, 2011, 08:46:25 AM
Yes that is what I quoted her in saying that she wanted a medieval coronation ceremony.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 02, 2011, 09:05:15 AM
indeed!


http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/8053/reginamaria14.jpg[/img]


I forgot to mention that one can find this photograph in Dr. Diana Mandache's stunning photo-book on QM -- Marie of Romania -Images of a Queen

I wonder if there will ever be another good album on Queen Marie...Prince Radu once mentioned on his blog that he was working on a new photo book on her...
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Vecchiolarry on November 02, 2011, 09:14:17 AM
Hi,

Yes Laura, I can see her as Theodora in those photos!!!

Larry
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Kalafrana on November 02, 2011, 09:22:54 AM
Theodora? Had she read Procopius?

Ann
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 02, 2011, 03:15:26 PM
Actually Winston's Churchill's mother Jennie once dressed as Theodora in fancy dress ball. Missy knew Lady Randolph Churchill well...
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Kalafrana on November 03, 2011, 04:25:05 AM
They were two of a kind!

Incidentally, for non-Byzantinists, Procopius wrote a 'Secret History' of the reign of Theodora's husband, Justinian, in which he relates in salacious detail Theodora's past career as a prostitute! Presumably what Marie was interested in was the episode when the Byzantine circus factions, usually at war with one another, united against Justinian. The Emperor was about to flee, but Theodora shamed him into staying with the words, 'The purple is a noble winding sheet.'

Ann
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 03, 2011, 05:47:27 AM
Yes. They were both beautiful and political and have lot of admirers.

Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Kalafrana on November 03, 2011, 06:34:12 AM
And somewhat questionable morals.

Ann
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 03, 2011, 08:36:29 AM

Actually Winston's Churchill's mother Jennie once dressed as Theodora in fancy dress ball. Missy knew Lady Randolph Churchill well...


Is it true that Winston Churchill was in love with Marie? : )  I read about it in a few books on her life.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 03, 2011, 05:01:57 PM
Yes. Missy knew that but I don't think she returned the love. They became friends instead.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 07, 2011, 05:11:50 AM
I believe I read  he was quoted saying he wanted to marry her!

BTW, The Dearest Missy  book is amazing, in my opinion. It provides such interesting insights! I’ve only reached page 55 but what a fascinating read it is! I absolutely adore it!  :)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: CountessKate on November 07, 2011, 10:16:27 AM
Quote
BTW, The Dearest Missy  book is amazing, in my opinion. It provides such interesting insights! I’ve only reached page 55 but what a fascinating read it is! I absolutely adore it!

I loved it!  In particular, it is great fun seeing people like Queen Victoria portrayed in quite a different manner from what you normally get in the various memoirs and letters - Queen Victoria is usually seen as interfering, tiresome, domineering, and a bore, and only occasionally generous or gracious.  Of course the less attractive portrait of Queen Victoria was quite as biased as the sweetness and light image, but it's fascinating to see how the independent-minded Grand Duchess Marie perceived her mother-in-law and how that view percolated down to her children.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 07, 2011, 11:01:30 AM
I enjoyed very much the description Marie Alexandrovna gives of the Grand Duchess Elizabeth ''Cousin Ella'', though her letters. Marie was definitely in awe of GD Ella's charm!
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 07, 2011, 02:18:27 PM
The book is an inside scoop on those who wanted to know the Hesse family and their relatives from another perspective. I cross reference to the Victoria/Vicky letters and also the newly published Alicky/Ernie letters from Darmstadt. The only one missing would be Ernie's letters to his other relatives as well as Ducky's to Missy.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: CountessKate on November 08, 2011, 03:29:05 AM
I do hope we get part 2 of the letters in the not too distant future.  And while I know indexing is a dying art, this one was pretty unspeakable for a reasonably serious historical work, so I hope wiser counsels prevail in vol 2 and horrors like indexing by family name ('Granny' etc.) is dropped, and some attention is paid to indexing people who appear many times but do not have a clear entry such as Miss Winter.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 08, 2011, 01:34:28 PM
Hopefully that would be improved.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 08, 2011, 03:17:38 PM
I agree and hopefully there will be a Romanian version of this book too!!
Mr. Valentin Mandache already did the English to Romanian translation of LATER CHAPTERS OF MY LIFE. The Lost Memoir of Queen Marie of Romania, another wonderful book edited by Dr. Diana Mandache.

However, DEAREST MISSY  is Dr. Diana Mandache's best book up to the present time as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 09, 2011, 08:56:49 PM
The information blew the competition away. The letters clearly indicated that Mignon was Zizi's child and not Nando's . A fact that was revealed to me when the letters were first read at RD Weekend by researcher John Wimbles. Now there is solid proof.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on November 09, 2011, 09:08:22 PM
Mignon's son Peter though looks much like Nando (mostly the ears) i really do believe Carol, Elisabeth, Mignon and Nicholas were Nando's. Ileana, I'm not so sure of since she is dark compare to her sisters and well Mircea is not Nando's.

Nando must have felt uneasy and distant towards Ileana and Mircea. Mignon was his favorite. i really do believe she was his.

Missy most have slept with both at the time. I also i dont blame Missy for having lovers since her husband treated her like a mistress then a wife.

the unknown child in 1898, was Zizi's child. Stillborn or not, no one knows what happened to that child. It would be forever remain a mystery.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Svetabel on November 10, 2011, 01:32:35 AM
Please, discuss Queen Marie's affairs and paternity of her children at the proper thread.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 10, 2011, 06:37:53 AM
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=2144.new#new

There s the discussion and a picture or Barbu and daughter which looks  A LOT like Ileana
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 10, 2011, 09:35:41 AM
Princess Margaret of Prussia and Crown Princess Marie of Romania -- Marie was visibly pregnant with Mignon.

(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/7444/138fq.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/138fq.jpg/)

From --> http://statearchive.ru/437?page=1
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 10, 2011, 11:04:51 AM
This is a great picture and should be use in a book on Missy. Maybe too expensive from the copyright holders ?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 10, 2011, 11:28:19 AM
(http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/8765/152oh.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/152oh.jpg/)

(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7645/153ka.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/153ka.jpg/)

Two more pics from the same source http://statearchive.ru/437?page=1

Although it was not the happiest period of her life, Marie looked very lovely & radiant in my opinion...well, all pregnant women look radiant in my view : )
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Post by: Keith on November 10, 2011, 03:52:30 PM
I'm guessing from the top picture - Marie,?,Victoria Melita,Margaret,Nicholas,?, and Ernie. Girls in front Elisabeth and one of the Grand Duchesses?

Does anyone know if this is right?   
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 10, 2011, 04:03:53 PM
I'm guessing from the top picture - Marie,?,Victoria Melita,Margaret,Nicholas,?, and Ernie. Girls in front Elisabeth and one of the Grand Duchesses?

Does anyone know if this is right?   

The other lady is Princess Viktoria of Prussia (Moretta)...and there is also Cyril Vladimirovich behind Nicholas II.
The little girls are Princess Elisabeth of Hesse and Grand Duchess Olga
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 11, 2011, 08:16:30 AM
Which archievs these photos belonged to ? Who holds the copyrights to them ?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 11, 2011, 08:20:39 AM
Which archievs these photos belonged to ? Who holds the copyrights to them ?

The Russian State Archives, I suppose!  :)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 11, 2011, 08:29:04 AM
Really ? I been on the website and it was not done in Russian unlike the other State Russian photo sites. I heard it belonged to a University collection instead.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: KarlandZita on November 14, 2011, 02:26:17 PM
Princess of Edimburg :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/436821crownprincessmarie.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=436821crownprincessmarie.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/934293princessmarieedimbourg.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=934293princessmarieedimbourg.jpg)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 14, 2011, 03:17:22 PM
Was the second photo her confirmation picture ?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 15, 2011, 04:03:17 AM
Crown Princess Marie dressed as a flower, Bucharest,  1895

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3449/maria1r.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/maria1r.png/)

From the famous session with her sister, Victoria Melita > (http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1824/3020z.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/3020z.jpg/)

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Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 15, 2011, 07:42:23 AM
Thanks ! Get to see the dress too. I wonder if one of Ducky exists too.
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Post by: Laura_ on November 15, 2011, 09:44:45 AM
Crown Princess Marie dressed as Princesse Lointaine, Bucharest, 1894

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3968/0037k.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/404/0037k.jpg/)

(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6954/marie45.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/256/marie45.png/)

(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/3196/rszmaria87.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/638/rszmaria87.jpg/)

(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5941/rszrszreginamaria12.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/80/rszrszreginamaria12.jpg/)




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Post by: Laura_ on November 15, 2011, 09:47:31 AM
with Victoria Melita

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2190/rszmissyducky.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/rszmissyducky.jpg/)

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Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 15, 2011, 12:37:12 PM
I think Duck is wearing her emerald wedding tiara with her floral headdress.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Svetabel on November 15, 2011, 12:49:13 PM
Crown Princess Marie dressed as a flower, Bucharest,  1895





I like very much that 'flower' session! Wonder how many photos were taken then...Thanks, Laura, for sharing!
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 16, 2011, 04:30:06 AM

I like very much that 'flower' session! Wonder how many photos were taken then...Thanks, Laura, for sharing!

It was my pleasure to share the pictures, and I'm glad you liked them, Svetabel! I've only seen these 2 so far, but I'm sure there are more of both Marie and Victoria Melita from that session.
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 16, 2011, 09:11:44 AM
They were both very attractive although Ducky looked sad in most of them.
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Post by: grandduchessella on November 16, 2011, 10:40:35 AM
Where on earth did you get that wonderful photo of Marie & Victoria Melita? I had seen most of the photos from that session of her alone but never even thought that someone else was part of it! Is it from a book or magazine? There seemed to be some writing showing through. If so, that's one to add!

A magazine (Munsey's?) once did an article using some from this sitting--I think it was Beautiful Women and Barbaric Jewels or something like that.
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Post by: Laura_ on November 16, 2011, 11:55:33 AM
Where on earth did you get that wonderful photo of Marie & Victoria Melita? I had seen most of the photos from that session of her alone but never even thought that someone else was part of it! Is it from a book or magazine? There seemed to be some writing showing through. If so, that's one to add!

A magazine (Munsey's?) once did an article using some from this sitting--I think it was Beautiful Women and Barbaric Jewels or something like that.

Grandduchessella, all the photos of Marie and of Victoria Melita from the ''Flowers'' and from the ''Princesse Lointaine'' sessions that I posted these days come from old magazines.

You can find the photo of Marie and Victoria Melita also in Diana Mandache's Dearest Missy book though. There is also another very similar photo of the two sisters from the '' Princesse Lointaine'' session in Marie of Romania - Images of a Queen, a photo album on Queen Marie also by Diana Mandache.

Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 16, 2011, 02:03:33 PM
The flower one of the head has been in postcards. The one with the dress (or full size) has not been seen since.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 16, 2011, 03:26:55 PM
The flower one of the head has been in postcards. The one with the dress (or full size) has not been seen since.

There should be more photos of the two of them from that 'Flowers' session at The National Archives of Romania or at the National Library of Romania.

There are at least 4-5 pics/each of all the others photo sessions of the 1890' Cotroceni fancy dress balls.

I hope we get to see more photos from that particular session. I love the black & white contrast of their gowns. I believe that contrast suited them perfectly. In every sense of the word.

BTW, ''the flowers'' I suppose were lilies ( ? the gowns look like representations of lilies, imo) ... Marie's favourites!  :)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 22, 2011, 03:27:37 PM
I don't know if Missy kept all her clothes. Quite a few of them were on display.
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Post by: Laura_ on November 23, 2011, 05:39:06 PM
(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5978/marieferd23.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/marieferd23.png/)

Another photo from the well known session with Ferdinand
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 23, 2011, 06:14:18 PM
typical shot of the time.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 24, 2011, 04:31:32 AM
typical shot of the time.

I agree, but I don't think it was posted before. My favourite photograph from that session is the one in which they look at one another.
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 24, 2011, 07:19:29 AM
Missy with sisters Victoria Melita and Alexandra

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2056/sfa03sfa022822617x.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/sfa03sfa022822617x.jpg/)

 

Funny that they re posing the same way in this early image of them..

(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7894/escanear0041.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/406/escanear0041.jpg/)
 

Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 24, 2011, 08:47:59 AM
what a wonderful image!! Thank you for sharing. Does it come from a book?
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 24, 2011, 10:56:12 AM
I dont know. A friend post it on Facebook. Im  gonna ask her ;-)

The second one is from Missy  photobook by Diana Mandache :)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 24, 2011, 12:39:18 PM
Thanks for posting. I know the second image can be found in the archives of Windsor and old ILNs.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 24, 2011, 01:06:22 PM
Looking at the two photos I realize the three sisters didn't change too much through the years, although they had to go through very bad times...A pity Baby Bee was not there, in both of the pictures.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: THERRY on November 28, 2011, 03:04:19 AM
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6043/6332190156_8722a2e7b9_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gabry10/6332190156/)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 28, 2011, 03:47:12 PM
Was this photo posted before ?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: grandduchessella on November 28, 2011, 04:13:01 PM
Considering Marie's thread is now on Part 3, I'm sure there aren't many that haven't been posted before. It's just a matter of how far back.  :)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 29, 2011, 12:22:15 PM
Yes. Especially some of photos of the old threads were taken off...
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 29, 2011, 05:02:32 PM

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6043/6332190156_8722a2e7b9_o.jpg


She sure did like to wear makeup, didn't she?  ;) :)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 30, 2011, 12:17:57 PM
Times have really changed. However Missy was not so painted like her cousin Charlotte of Meiningen or later her daughter Elisabetta.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 30, 2011, 04:46:16 PM
I was actually admiring her makeup, I don't think it was ''too much'' not at all. Marie took extra time to look good always, even in her later years of life. And with her great vitality, her beautiful face  always looked lovely and kept the same youthful appearance (except maybe for the 1937-1938 years), in spite of years crowded with strenuous activity.
I believe she had a beautiful skin, unlined, firm, fresh, with lovely natural color. (This is how I imagine she was from her photographs & paintings and from other person's and her own descriptions of herself). A skin which spoke for itself of the wise care Marie had always given it. She kept her skin creams for constant use on her dressing table and she was quoted saying it gave her daily greater satisfaction.
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 01, 2011, 01:32:29 PM
Yes. Although she did not tip off her beauty tips in her books. Her adored cousin/aunt Ella also mixed her own face cream, so it might be something they exchanged during their visits to England & Coburg. She did not look at all dolled up until her illness. Even in b/w photos you could see her use of lipstick and rouge.
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Post by: Laura_ on December 01, 2011, 01:55:25 PM
and also in videos that are available throughout the internet too...
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 02, 2011, 11:27:43 AM
Indeed. It showed that she was a heavy smoker too...
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on December 03, 2011, 07:23:54 AM
Indeed. It showed that she was a heavy smoker too...

I find it interesting that it didn't affect her external physical appearance though.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: KarlandZita on December 03, 2011, 07:37:20 AM
Queen Marie and Mme Millerand, during her state visit in Paris with King Ferdinand in 1924 :

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/690010voyageroumainaparis.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=690010voyageroumainaparis.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/376827mariemillerand.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=376827mariemillerand.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/724150mariemmemillerand.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=724150mariemmemillerand.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 05, 2011, 12:49:31 PM
Queen Marie as usual put the other lady in the shade.
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 22, 2011, 02:34:08 PM
Beautiful

(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5351/asephg.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/684/asephg.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 23, 2011, 09:58:56 AM
Is this taken in Romania or Russia ? It seemed like a wooden structure in the background.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 23, 2011, 11:00:24 AM
its the same place   of this image

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3231/2678370364_883a3caa27_o.jpg)

Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 23, 2011, 12:35:51 PM
Then it is definitely Romania. Although there are log strictures in Russia & Finland too.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on January 30, 2012, 04:12:46 PM
Crown Princess Marie - A photograph taken by her husband before the war

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1855/48598501.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/48598501.png/)


Queen Marie and King Ferdinand dressed in fur coats in Oriental tradition

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/999/45052458.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/45052458.png/)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 30, 2012, 06:07:19 PM
They look very primative in furs.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: CountessKate on January 31, 2012, 04:29:26 AM
I have to say, when hardly visible under a pile of furs, Ferdinand seemed to achieve a swagger which failed him in ordinary photos, while Marie actually looks rather stiff and conventionally posed - an unusual role reversal for the couple.
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 31, 2012, 12:36:34 PM
Overwhelmed by the furs no doubts. I think Missy prefer furs to be under her feet while flowing around in chiffon.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on February 09, 2012, 04:14:16 PM
(http://uploadimage.ro/images/55889925264602856572.jpg) (http://uploadimage.ro/)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 09, 2012, 04:22:16 PM
Wow ! That is quite an intimate photo of her reading in bed. Where does that come from ? I don't think you will find one of Queen Mary in that position... :o
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on February 09, 2012, 04:25:59 PM
There are  some very similar photos of Queen Elisabeth of Romania though  ;)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on February 09, 2012, 04:32:09 PM
(http://uploadimage.ro/images/92498906647471218013.jpg) (http://uploadimage.ro/)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 09, 2012, 04:39:37 PM
You mean "Aunty" ? Yes I could believe that. The second photo have a man and woman near Missy's bed. Was she sick or in hospital ? When was this taken...
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: THERRY on February 13, 2012, 03:26:19 AM
Thanks so much for these previously unseen photographs, although from time I followed the iconography of Maria I had never seen before.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 13, 2012, 02:44:28 PM
She was one of those who loved to be photographed. Keep em coming ... :-)
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Post by: KarlandZita on February 25, 2012, 08:08:33 AM
Queen Marie with her daughter Ileana in America :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/737153marieileanainamerika.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=737153marieileanainamerika.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on March 30, 2012, 05:13:47 PM
She was a very pretty girl. She attracted many beaus before and after her marriage...
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on April 05, 2012, 11:16:43 AM
Marie with Ileana

(http://uploadimage.ro/images/94762526423073057625.jpg) (http://uploadimage.ro/)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on May 25, 2012, 04:29:15 PM
(http://s18.postimage.org/4demivmgp/198123_203.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on May 26, 2012, 11:08:39 AM
She is wearing the pearls her inherited from her mother, the Dowager Duchess of Coburg. Instead of wearing them as a six strong coiled around her neck, she turned it into a one long satoir that was more fashionable in the 30's.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: miki_nastya on June 26, 2012, 04:29:28 PM
I just read that her only physical defect was that she had fat legs...by the way how tall was she?   
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on June 26, 2012, 11:23:31 PM
Both Elisabetta & Mignon appeared to have fat legs too...
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Post by: KarlandZita on July 06, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
Queen Marie with Princesses Irene and Helen of Greece :

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/703952queenirenhelen.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=703952queenirenhelen.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on July 06, 2012, 07:10:01 PM
Irene almost became her daughter-in-law too. Had she married Prince Nicolas of Romania.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: KarlandZita on July 15, 2012, 09:20:07 AM
Queen Marie with her children Mignon and Nicolas :

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/481983marienicolaemignon.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=481983marienicolaemignon.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: THERRY on July 18, 2012, 04:51:30 AM
My thoughts to Maria, an exceptional woman, in the day of her death
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2uij6s6.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: KarlandZita on July 21, 2012, 05:51:21 AM
Queen Marie visiting France with her two daughters Marie and Elizabeth at the Versailles Treaty of 1919 :

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/598686versailles.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=598686versailles.jpg)

The intervention of the Queen, she came to plead the cause of her country to Clemenceau, was decisive for the expansion of Romania
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on September 20, 2012, 03:13:42 PM
(http://s12.postimage.org/owqgr7y7h/missygeorge.png) (http://postimage.org/)


From the Royal Collection.. : P : D
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 20, 2012, 09:18:04 PM
Sad. They might be a real success love story.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Duchess Hydrangea on September 21, 2012, 09:28:17 AM
Crown Princess Marie - A photograph taken by her husband before the war

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1855/48598501.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/48598501.png/)

This picture is so amazing. How photogenic she was. Isn't that a century tree she's against? These plants, you wonder why they are't used my in symbolism with how strong they are.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 21, 2012, 09:48:17 AM
She was photographed in this gown before. She must have liked it.
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Post by: slavona on September 30, 2012, 08:52:50 AM
Out for a hike in 1898. Find on Pinterest
(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/1898.jpg)
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Post by: slavona on September 30, 2012, 08:55:32 AM
Strange and more like a greek even if she was very young
(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/123286108519894207_EGZ1soz9_c.jpg)

Again from Pinterest
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 30, 2012, 02:14:45 PM
Interesting that Missy likes to hike too. A hobby that she shared with her cousin Alice of Athlone. Queen Ena used to complain that Alice was like "a mountain goat" on the trails. Don't think Alice & Missy ever hiked together though. 
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Post by: slavona on October 06, 2012, 04:11:52 AM
Queen Marie’s Driving License to be auctioned

  A Romanian auction house was scheduling a sale of the driving licence of Queen Marie, issued in the period when she was still a Crown Princess of Romania. The document was issued by The Touring Club of Munich.The estimated price was € 2.000 – 4.000.Price realized          € 5000.

    (http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/carnet-conducere-regina-maria.jpg)

   From Diana Mandache's Weblog
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 06, 2012, 10:06:20 AM
When did she learn how to drive ? I know both Ducky & Sandra drove cars and very fond of the sport.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: grandduchessella on October 06, 2012, 11:21:32 AM
Missy was as well. I've seen several photos and mentions of her in auto magazines from the early driving era. It seems a lot of the young royals of that time were early devotees.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: historyfan on October 06, 2012, 07:27:36 PM
A driver's license photo with a tiara! I love it!
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Vecchiolarry on October 06, 2012, 08:44:48 PM
Hi,

Yes, a tiara!!!  Just call her "Queen of the Road"......

Good going , Marie!!

Larry
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Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on October 06, 2012, 08:58:58 PM
Queen Marie's driving license is a WIN!!! love it.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 06, 2012, 11:59:30 PM
I wondered if Queen Elizabeth II's driver's licence look like ? Indeed. I wonder if the remaining sister (Baby Bee) also drives...
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: slavona on October 08, 2012, 05:09:19 AM
Because there was a 140 objects on the auction  with the driving licence of Queen Marie, I have 2 short videos about
 
a gold bracelet,with sapphires and diamonds
http://s442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/?action=view&current=bratarasafirediamante.mp4 (http://s442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/?action=view&current=bratarasafirediamante.mp4)


a pair of gold buttons with King Michael Ciipher
http://s442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/?action=view&current=butonicifrulluimihai.mp4
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Post by: slavona on October 08, 2012, 05:52:41 AM
I have some clear pictures of that objects

(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/bratarasafirediamante_0003.jpg)


(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/butonicifrulluimihai_0002.jpg)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 08, 2012, 07:41:00 AM
Is the bracelet Missy's ?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: slavona on October 08, 2012, 08:29:28 AM
They say Romanian Royal House
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 09, 2012, 05:04:49 AM

Queen Marie in the gardens of the Cotroceni Palace in 1926:

(http://s12.postimage.org/83wwm1lal/214050_caiete156_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 09, 2012, 05:06:25 AM
(http://s8.postimage.org/cj2kbieo5/65e060e432a995bfab7cdf784596f9f6.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

(http://s9.postimage.org/f987lvo2n/0b095aab01e46a977876cf9767d928a2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 09, 2012, 10:21:11 AM
Lovely pictures of Missy. She looked like a silent film star.  :) Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 11, 2012, 05:04:41 AM
Larger versions of the gorgeous photos from the National Portrait Gallery:

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Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on October 11, 2012, 05:07:45 AM
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Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: historyfan on October 11, 2012, 08:45:19 AM
Those are absolutely gorgeous!
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Post by: THERRY on October 11, 2012, 10:50:33 AM
Many thanks Laura, these pictures are absolutely beautiful  ::)
You have made a great discovery  :-*
I adore Missy
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on October 11, 2012, 12:34:05 PM
Queen Marie was definitely a woman before her time. she would have the Late Diana - Princess of Wales, RIP, run for her tiara.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 12, 2012, 07:15:28 AM
Yes. But Missy was born royal but Diana wasn't. Just like the case that Marie Coburg could defy Queen Victoria's wishes (as in Missy's marriage) in being the only daughter of the Tsar of Russia. Her title of Imperial Highness trumps Royal Highness. 
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Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on October 12, 2012, 01:38:43 PM
Diana however did come from a noble family and was in that "High Social Class", not much different from a royal, both kind of the same in the eyes of an American girl - both rich and have titles. plus most nobles are descendants from Kings or Highland Lords.
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 12, 2012, 07:56:29 PM
There is a 'big" difference born royal than born titled. Missy's mother used her leverage (as daughter, sister & aunt of the Tsar) to help Missy in her troubles. Diana was left defenseless. That is why I always think Royals should marry Royals.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: historyfan on October 12, 2012, 09:27:35 PM
There is a 'big" difference born royal than born titled. Missy's mother used her leverage (as daughter, sister & aunt of the Tsar) to help Missy in her troubles. Diana was left defenseless. That is why I always think Royals should marry Royals.

Missy's mother wasn't always able to "pull rank". "Der Onkel" held sway over much of her life, and those of her children, particularly the eldest two. Marie should have been allowed to marry the future George V, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 13, 2012, 11:14:57 AM
Marie Coburg did pull rank when she ordered Missy to give birth in Coburg (the child was Mignon) after her daughter;'s scandal erupted. She told Onkel if Missy was not allowed to go, he will have to hear from both Queen Victoria & The Tsar of Russia. Karol I gave in to the combined threat. Yes. Missy should be allowed to marry Georgie. But history would then be very different.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Kalafrana on October 15, 2012, 02:40:12 AM
George V and Queen Mary had a happy marriage in their own particular fashion.

I have never liked Marie of Rumania - all those affairs and childrten of doubtful paternity.

Ann
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 15, 2012, 10:12:40 AM
As happy as arranged marriages go. All the children of King George V had issues. David was afraid of responsibilities, Bertie struggles with speech and had knock knees, Henry was a drunkard and George was depressive, an drug addict and bisexual. Actually not much better than Missy's bunch.

I think Missy & Georgie would have been happy if they got married. Georgie was "in love" with her unlike May being forced on to him.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Kalafrana on October 15, 2012, 11:25:06 AM
I was thinking more in terms of George V and Mary themselves rather than their children.

Ann
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 15, 2012, 11:39:29 AM
George did not love or desire May, but was almost forced upon him. They developed a relationship, but unlike someone like Missy, she always obeyed her husband unlike Missy or even Queen Alexandra. I think Missy can bring Georgie out and less into himself.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: CountessKate on October 15, 2012, 01:52:42 PM
George did not love or desire May, but was almost forced upon him. They developed a relationship, but unlike someone like Missy, she always obeyed her husband unlike Missy or even Queen Alexandra. I think Missy can bring Georgie out and less into himself.

I don't think there was any special reason for George to write to Mary during their engagement that "Thank God we both understand each other, & I think it really unnecessary for me to tell you how deep my love for you my darling is & I feel it growing stronger & stronger every time I see you; although I may appear shy & cold", and "It is just two months today that we were engaged, how quick the time goes, I loved you then very much, now I adore you, I feel so happy that I don't know how to thank you enough for having made me so" if he didn't genuinely feel happy in the relationship from the start, although of course it was an arranged match.  Both he and Mary were very shy with overt expressions of affection, but both were able to do so on paper, and Mary on their wedding day sent George a pencilled note to say "I love you with all my heart."  In that respect Marie's desire for more overt romantic expression does not appear to be a good fit with George compared to the genuine happiness he found with Mary.  His extreme conventionality seems more likely to have been shocked by Marie's flamboyance and rather than drawing him out it seems more likely that it would cause him great discomfort and annoyance, which he undoubtedly felt with his mother-in-law, Mary Adelaide who was a very larger-than-life individual.  Given that Mary sacrificed her comfort and interests to him, spending hours on shoots etc. when she would rather have been at home with a good book or inspecting some antiques, I think George was very fortunate in Mary and I don't think he would have got any of that support from Marie - as her letters to her mother show, hers was not a personality which would have put up with George's lack of charisma for very long.   
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Kalafrana on October 16, 2012, 04:01:33 AM
Countess Kate

I agree. George V and Queen Mary were a very good 'fit'. George and Marie were fine as pals, but they would soon have got impatient with one another had they got married. And then Marie would have been having affairs.

Ann
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: rachel5a on October 16, 2012, 12:52:05 PM
So who would be ideal for Marie?
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on October 16, 2012, 01:03:14 PM
Whats the point of these useless what ifs, and Eric as a historian and an author, why ask should questions? you know the answer.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 16, 2012, 09:15:43 PM
I think it is highly speculative that Missy would have affairs if she had married Georgie. Nando was a virtual stranger and never a good fit. I think May allowed George to be his more selfish self, while a more independent Missy would have forced him out of his comfort zone. One must remember that May always felt insignificant as a poor morganetic princess, and never able to fend for herself (even being bullied by the acid tongued and jealous sister-in-law,Victoria of Wales). Missy would have no problem asserting herself. Had she married George, the loss would only be to Romania.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: CountessKate on October 17, 2012, 02:46:52 AM
I think it is highly speculative that Missy would have affairs if she had married Georgie. Nando was a virtual stranger and never a good fit. I think May allowed George to be his more selfish self, while a more independent Missy would have forced him out of his comfort zone. One must remember that May always felt insignificant as a poor morganetic princess, and never able to fend for herself (even being bullied by the acid tongued and jealous sister-in-law,Victoria of Wales). Missy would have no problem asserting herself. Had she married George, the loss would only be to Romania.

The whole premise is speculative, not just whether Marie might have had affairs. But looking at actual facts, Marie really did have affairs, and not because Ferdinand was "a virtual stranger" (which he wasn't when she had the affairs) but because her marriage partner did not live up to her romantic aspirations.  Would George have been any different?  I hardly think there is a single biographer of George, even the most sycophantic, who would support the notion of him as a romantic ideal, for Marie or anyone else, and the likelihood is that Marie would have reacted exactly as she did in Romania, and found someone(s) else.  The evidence of George moving out of his comfort zone in relatively small ways (dealing with an intrusive and ebullient mother-in-law, having a son with a stammer) showed that he reacted rather badly to such a situation and it certainly didn't encourage him to be less selfish.  How he would have reacted to a flagrantly unfaithful spouse, very much outside his comfort zone, would not have boded well for any marriage he entered into.  Marie's marrying George and thus saving Mary from being bullied by her in-laws (which is severely overstating the case) or George himself, would not have been a matter of any gratitude from Mary, who was extremely thankful for being given the only career a princess could expect in those days, which was marriage.  For Mary, at least, Marie's marriage to George would have been a loss.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Kalafrana on October 17, 2012, 03:52:17 AM
Countess Kate

I agree. George was, ultimately, a decent plodder, and his marriage to Mary 'worked'.


Rachel

I don't think there was anybody who would have been ideal husband material for Marie, not among the 'available' princes of the day.

We have to remember when discussing marriage prospects for particular individuals that there were never many candidates at any one time, given the restrictions of religion and contemporary views on what were proper ages.


Everybody

I have made clear my dislike of Marie (I just cannot see beyond the affairs!), could people explain why they like her so much.

Ann
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: historyfan on October 17, 2012, 09:12:35 AM
I don't think I "like" Marie, per se. If I were a contemporary of hers, I probably would have seen her as "over the top" theatrical, dramatic, flamboyant, as some did. You've made good points about what a marriage to George V would probably have meant, and I concede that argument. : )  As a day-to-day person, I don't think she was all that likeable.

However...as a Queen, she knew just how to use what she had, and she was a quick study. In politics, at least, she stood behind Nando and bolstered him.

And, she did take beautiful photos. ; )
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on October 17, 2012, 12:40:05 PM

Kalafrana - I understand you completely when it comes to Marie. I too personally can't stand adultery or people whom sleep around besides that I like Marie - I don't adore her but I do find her very interesting person and royal. 
plus I try to be a good Christian - blame the sin not the sinner. If I too was force in a loveless marriage and considered a beauty possibly i too would have affairs. Ferdinand was no saint himself, he had mistresses and even treated Marie as a mistress not as his wife. But i too like him as he had the balls to suck it up and consider all Marie's children his (even though without a doubt the youngest baby Prince Mircea wasn't his but i do believe the other five was his). They did in some way had a happy yet rocky marriage and understood each other over time.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 17, 2012, 04:26:30 PM
I don't know why they think Missy was such a sinner. She was smart, beautiful and romantic. Missy had a liking for Georgie and would be delighted to be with her beloved Aunt Alix. One has to remember that Aunty Elisabeth (Queen of Romania) was one that inspired her to be interested in Romanian Folk culture and writing. Aunt Alix might led Missy to be more of a fashion plate than a writer. Married at 16/17, she was very malleable to her surroundings.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on October 17, 2012, 05:12:14 PM
Adultery is considered a sin. one of the 10 commandments. being smart and pretty isn't an excuse.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: grandduchessella on October 17, 2012, 05:39:57 PM
I definitely believe her personality would have developed much differently if she'd married George. Not only was he more conventional than even Nando (I don't think George would've had an affair regardless of how his marriage turned out) but the British Court was much more staid than that of Romania. Marie would have had much less opportunit to flourish. Some of her artistic tendencies may have flourished--Louise Argyll had an 'artsty' set and the Court surrounding Edward VII was more flashy than that of the George and Mary. Perhaps George would've pulled an unhappy Marie away from his father's cronies and the Marlborough House Set, perhaps the reverse would've been true. Mary certainly wasn't any more comfortable with that crowd than George was. Marie may have made a glittery, fashionable successor to Alexandra or she may  have had her natural ebullience stifled in her 17 years of marriage before she would've become Queen. It's just too hard to tell and too many variables. Either George or Marie may have fundamentally altered each other's personalities or their natural tendencies may have only entrenched in the face of the other. Her life would have had a more European bent, perhaps with vacations and state visits to France, Italy or Germany (though that didn't work well for Mary) rather than the more Slavic tone her life in Romania afforded her. She would've had much kinder, friendlier 'in-laws' (though Carol and Elizabeth were only de facto) in Edward and Alexandra who would've made her early years much easier when transitioning to her position as wife to the heir. Alexandra could be bossy and smothering, but I doubt she would've tried to big-foot her way into the nursery the way Elizabeth did. Edward also wasn't as dictatorial as Carol was and was certainly in no position to pass judgment on flighty, flirt behaviors.

Marie probably would've had a much happier time as Duchess of York/Princess of Wales than she did as Crown Princess but she wouldn't have had the opportunity to became a power player and real force as Queen of England as she did as Queen of Romania.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Kalafrana on October 18, 2012, 04:02:59 AM
I don't think being 'smart' (presumably you mean intelligent), beautiful and romantic excuses affairs, particularly when they produce offspring of dubious paternity which the husband is then obliged to treat as his own (poor Ferdinand!).

In any case, I'm not mad about Marie's looks. She was distinctly chinless (note that no photograph shows her in profile!).

As to whether a marriage to George would have worked, there are indeed too many variables to predict, but I fear it would have turned out rather like Charles and Diana. George was nearly 10 years older than Marie, and distinctly middle-aged in temperament, at a time when Marie was still a teenager. At that point in her life, a steady mature man might well have seemed an ideal marriage partner, but I think she would have got bored with George and then the affairs would have started.

Ann
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 18, 2012, 09:02:20 AM
Yes. But Charles was never "in love" with Diana, while George clearly desires Missy even though he had mistresses before.

I agree with Granduchessa. Missy would her more flamboyant personally would be attracted to the "Marlborough House Set". Both Missy & her Uncle Bertie enjoyed a bit of show and she might be guided by him into international politics. Her keen mind may turn to politics instead of having affairs. Most interestingly she would have enjoyed dressing up with her Aunt Alix and become her successor in the London Season. Yes, I agree George may have to change to accommodate his more active wife, which may not be a bad thing. Also with her big dowry, she might have selected a better place to live than Sandringham Cottage. Marie Coburg would have insisted an independent establishment for the couple, and being far richer than the poor Tecks, she could have pushed that forward. 
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Kalafrana on October 18, 2012, 09:23:48 AM
George clearly like Marie, when she was a teenager, but was he actually in love with her in the proper sense?

Charles seems to have been fond of Diana, to begin with at least, but that wasn't enough to sustain a marriage.

Ann
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 18, 2012, 09:30:20 AM
I think so. Missy has a way of attracting the attention of men and George was no exception. Even poor Nando who never fell out of love for her. In truth, Missy was a very fascinating woman even if you don't like her.

Not really...He was already in love with Camilla. Remember on his honeymoon he called her and said "Whatever happens I will always love you (Camilla) !"...
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: historyfan on October 18, 2012, 10:05:41 AM
As to whether a marriage to George would have worked, there are indeed too many variables to predict, but I fear it would have turned out rather like Charles and Diana. George was nearly 10 years older than Marie, and distinctly middle-aged in temperament, at a time when Marie was still a teenager. At that point in her life, a steady mature man might well have seemed an ideal marriage partner, but I think she would have got bored with George and then the affairs would have started.

Ann

Ferdinand was also significantly older, but of course that was hardly uncommon. I think you're right about Marie's temperament and character, and a marriage to George wouldn't have improved things in that way. There just wouldn't have been that element of "strangeness" and unfamiliarity, not to mention culture shock, at the beginning as there was for her time in Romania.

But Marie found her niche in Romania. Whether she had any business in Paris in 1919 or not is a matter of opinion, but the fact is, it helped the cause of Romania greatly, and she was loved for it.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Kalafrana on October 18, 2012, 10:08:10 AM
'Not really...He was already in love with Camilla.'

I said that Charles was fond of Diana, not that he was in love with her. By that I'm saying that he had affection for her.

Ann
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 18, 2012, 11:52:48 AM
There is a difference. George was in love with her. He knows the difference since he had a mistress in his sailor days. He really wants Missy not "fond of " her. There is a BIG difference that I need to point out.

As for Missy, she always loved England (much to the frustration of her mother Marie Coburg). She once just bent down to the grass while visiting her Aunt Alix and she asked"You loved it ?" and Missy replied yes it hurts so much because she loved it so.  Missy always considered Britain home just like Sophie of Greece and Ena of Spain.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Kalafrana on October 19, 2012, 09:57:06 AM
'There is a difference. George was in love with her. He knows the difference since he had a mistress in his sailor days. He really wants Missy not "fond of " her. There is a BIG difference that I need to point out.'

But Marie was no more than 16 then (she was 17 and 4 months when she married Ferdinand). Would George's love have lasted once she was adult and increasingly arty and flamboyant, and he was more and more set in his ways?

I don't know, and we cannot assume it would have worked.

And, of course, both of them married different people. George had a happy marriage to Queen Mary. Marie married Ferdnand, and while they reached an accommodation, it can hardly be called a success.

Ann

Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 19, 2012, 10:18:27 AM
I would not call the marriage between Mary & George happy. Queen Mary was always in awe of her husband and her son Edward VIII (Duke of Windsor) wrote that when she was with him she was a different person (stiff & edgy). Mary had bend herself according to George's wishes. That is a good arrangement and George was appreciative of her efforts and felt affection for her. But was that love ? I still believe that had Missy married George, he would have been a more engaging king. He would never dare to take Missy for granted the way he did with May. I think the team of Uncle Bertie & Missy would have been an awesome double act as they were both cut from the same cloth.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: historyfan on October 19, 2012, 06:04:15 PM
No one, royal  or not, knows a marriage better than the two people in it. Including their own children.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 20, 2012, 10:30:48 AM
Yes. But one could see the signs. If George had really loved May, he wouldn't have gang up with his "beloved" sister "Toria" and made their trip to Italy hell for his sensitive wife. Toria, the sharp tongued spinster was jealous of May and constantly make comments on her sister-in-law. King George did not mind that one bit.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: SweetAngels on October 29, 2012, 01:00:18 PM
Happy blessful 137th birthday to Queen Marie of Romania, may she rest in peace and happiness in heaven!
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on October 29, 2012, 01:43:20 PM
Happy Birthday Missy/Maddy...
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Laura_ on November 28, 2012, 10:00:18 AM
Here is the lovely Crown Princess Marie in two signed photographs:x


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Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on December 10, 2012, 03:20:55 PM
I have some books dealing with Rumania in WW I written by Glenn E Torrey that might be of interest to some of you:
The Rumanian Battlefront in WW I" a excellent account of Rumania in WW I. The maps could have been better. It has a number of photos including one of Queen Marie in 1918 reviewing the troops wearing a leopard skin cloak as in reply 202. In this same reply Ferdinand is wearing a racoon skin coat. I'll leave out how i know that.

The Revolutionary Russian army and Rumania 1917 is about how the Russian revolution effected Rumania in 1917 when the russian army falls apart.

Henri Mathias Berthlot Soldier of France Defender of Rumania this is a bio of the French general who commanded the french military mission in Rumania in WW I. he played a major role in traing and equiping the Rumanian army during this time. It has a photo unfourtunely a rear view of Queen Marie taken in France during the 1920s.

All three of these books do contain references ect of Queen Marie
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 10, 2012, 04:21:20 PM
Do you have the title of these 3 books ?
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Post by: grandduchessella on December 10, 2012, 05:37:03 PM
He listed the titles.
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 10, 2012, 08:37:37 PM
Not clear.
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Post by: grandduchessella on December 10, 2012, 11:18:34 PM
I don't see how not--he gave the titles and then described them.

"The Rumanian Battlefront in WW I"
"The Revolutionary Russian Army and Rumania 1917"
"Henri Mathias Berthlot: Soldier of France Defender of Rumania"

Some of the punctuation could've been cleared up, but the titles are clear. He also said they were all written by Glenn E Torrey.
Title: Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 11, 2012, 04:01:32 PM
Thanks for clearing it up. I will see if I can locate these books.

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Post by: slavona on December 12, 2012, 08:13:09 AM
Is this the photo with Queen Marie in leopard skin cloak ?

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from Laura, page 14
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Post by: slavona on December 12, 2012, 09:58:40 AM
(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/King-Ferdinand-and-Her-Majesty-Queen-Marie-visiting-the-front-on-29-august-1917-at-V-Ocnei.jpg)

1917-reviewing the troops
from http://art-historia.blogspot.ro/

From the book about Henri Mathias Berthlot, where is that photo of Queen Marie in France? Alsace, Paris, south of France? Thanks
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 15, 2012, 11:17:00 AM
Did not find the picture in the site.
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Post by: JamesAPrattIII on December 15, 2012, 06:34:43 PM
I should have done a better job with the punctuation. The photo of marie in the Leopard skin coat or cloak reviewing the troops in 1918 is different that the one printed on this site. the photo of Marie in the book on Berthlot was taken on a visit by her to france in the 1920s, possibly in Paris. Neither of these photos are on this site which is part of the reason why mentioned them.
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 15, 2012, 08:55:07 PM
Thanks. Which book was the leopard skin photo from ?
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Post by: slavona on December 16, 2012, 05:19:31 AM
For Eric
 Photo from 1917 is from site „ Only Romania”- Romanian Kingdom-King Ferdinand’s life in Romania . Sorry
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 16, 2012, 12:47:49 PM
Thanks ! Is there a link to the site ?
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Post by: slavona on December 17, 2012, 07:03:51 AM
www.only-romania.com
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 17, 2012, 06:48:42 PM
Thanks for the link. Appreciate it.
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Post by: slavona on December 20, 2012, 08:23:31 AM
Sorry if it was posted already

(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/marie-alfred_web2_zpse1cb3eb3.jpg)
Marie and Alfred-from Diana Mandache blog

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Marie in Alsace for romanian soldiers dead in WWI
from Diana Mandache blog

(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/eBay77617_zpscc50d914.jpg)
from Ebay

“Fashion exists for women with no taste, etiquette for people with no breeding.”
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 20, 2012, 09:31:14 AM
Very interesting word and sayings.
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Post by: slavona on December 21, 2012, 08:05:11 AM
Missy said that
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 21, 2012, 09:10:33 AM
She had very original ideas.
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Post by: slavona on December 23, 2012, 06:00:07 AM
On Ebay you could buy important old solid 14K gold CIGARETTE CASE W DIAMONDS ROYAL of QUEEN MARIE ROMANIA. On back there is a portrait of Missy with her diamont and pearls tiara. To open you have on the side button six emeralds (possibly). There are multiple pictures of her signature and the signature on the case is an exact match to her style (possibly).

(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/kgrhqnpcfcpp84jjbqzwomd3260_57-21_zps2b0a0e28.jpg)

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from Diana Mandache blog
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 23, 2012, 10:14:20 AM
Yes. The last time I checked it was US $ 360. I think at least go for US $ 2000.
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Post by: aleksandr pavlovich on December 23, 2012, 10:35:01 AM
Yes. The last time I checked it was US $ 360. I think at least go for US $ 2000.

   IF  (and I stress "IF") authentic, documented AND with components as described, the final price IMO will be undoubtedly FAR, FAR BEYOND US $2000 !!!  But why eBay?  Many well-known international auction houses would be quite happy to have this item !!   Regards.  AP.
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 23, 2012, 12:11:00 PM
I agree maybe USD 4000.

I like it. It gives us all a chance not only the selected few. Also I think Sotheby's is allied to Ebay.
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Post by: historyfan on December 23, 2012, 04:33:26 PM
But why eBay?  Many well-known international auction houses would be quite happy to have this item !!   Regards.  AP.

I agree. As would museums.
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Post by: slavona on December 30, 2012, 12:40:20 PM
Sorry if it was posted!

(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/missylizabetamignonWWI_zps68dde023.jpg)

  Queen Marie, Elizabeta and Mignon in WWI
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 30, 2012, 05:02:30 PM
They refer to Missy as Motherdragra. A form of Mummy I guess.
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Post by: slavona on December 31, 2012, 07:38:45 AM
I don`t know if it was already posted.  The baby is probable Ileana. I like the body language of Carol and Lisabeta ( 1 km. apart!!!)

(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/sder_zps0429c387.jpg)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 31, 2012, 11:09:42 AM
Yes I think it was Ileana.
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Post by: Svetabel on December 31, 2012, 11:10:02 AM
I don`t know if it was already posted.  The baby is probable Ileana. I like the body language of Carol and Lisabeta ( 1 km. apart!!!)


Actually behind Mignon should be Crownprince Wilhelm of Germany! Curiously he is cut off the picture by the "photoshopers" of those days ))). The date is 1909, Crownprince's visit to Romania, there are many shots from the occasion.
And the baby is Ileana of course.
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 31, 2012, 11:59:32 AM
Actually the guy behind Crownprincess Marie is  her brother in law, Karl Anton von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen ;)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 01, 2013, 01:40:46 AM
Yes. The one who married one of the Belgian Princesses.
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Post by: grandduchessella on January 01, 2013, 12:18:03 PM
Josephine, sister of King Albert I. Marie's reminiscences of Karl Anton weren't too flattering.
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 01, 2013, 12:34:37 PM
Missy did not like that family too much.
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 01, 2013, 02:50:54 PM
Really? Can you tell us more, please? Thanks in advanced!
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Post by: grandduchessella on January 01, 2013, 04:15:35 PM
I don't have the memoirs in front of me but here's what I recall:

She found Karl Anton rather vain and superficial--very impressed with his looks, slender build and uniform.

She wasn't overly impressed with any of her sisters-in-law.

She didn't like her mother-in-law, finding her narrow-minded, overly religious and too serious.

She DID really like her father-in-law, Leopold. She had nothing but good things to say for his character, looks, behavior and her relationship with him.

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Post by: grandduchessella on January 01, 2013, 04:30:22 PM
I found some online excerpts of the memoirs:

Wilhelm (her BIL): "William, though a dear, kindhearted fellow, had none of Ferdinand's good looks; he was inclined to stoutness, had snub features, and the characteristically eagle nose of the Hohenzollerns was conspicuously absent from his rotund and jovial face. He was full of the milk of human kindness, though none too happily married to a niece of the Empress Elisabeth of Austria. This not very united couple had a two-year-old daughter and two wee twin sons. "

Karl (her BIL): "Charles, who was Ferdinand's youngest brother, had no lack of good looks. He had a beautifully slim figure of which he was inordinately proud. In fact, he was inclined to be too pleased with himself and stalked about with something of a peacock's strut. He considered himself as clever as he was handsome, and I was often astounded at the way he managed to lord it over Ferdinand, who was not only his elder but his superior in every way. A year or two later, Charles, whom the family called Carlo, married his first cousin, Josephine, Princess of Belgium—sister of Albert, the King of the Belgians. Accustomed to admire him as a child, she continued to do so all through their married life; though she, too, was by far his superior. She may have had moments when she realized this, but she never showed it, so his vanity increased with the years in a way most provoking to his family. A greater contrast than the two brothers, Ferdinand and Charles, can hardly be imagined. Ferdinand was almost painfully modest and unassuming, whilst his milk-fair, wasp-waisted brother was just the contrary, and, into the bargain, Ferdinand was inexplicably humble before his brother's assumed perfections."

Leopold (her FIL): "as one of the most charming princes of his day. Clever, cultivated, good-looking, he had something of Ferdinand's modesty, though he was much less shy and the most perfect homme du monde. I have never met a more unselfish man. He lived entirely for others, spending his life and energies rushing backward and forward between the different members of his family, wearing himself to pieces over the care he took of his delicate wife and of his adorable, old and very deaf mother, whom he dearly loved....he was so exceedingly amiable and thoughtful and had such perfect manners; besides, he was highly cultivated, well read and a very expert art connoisseur. All these qualities my mother appreciated to the full. Altogether mama was enchanted with everything, and this aristocratic and yet kindly German family was entirely to her taste."

Josephine (her husband's grandmother): "Small and frail, she had exquisite features framed in veils and laces which heightened their delicacy. Her gowns and cloaks were just as they should be. She always wore gloves much too long in the fingers, which she had not had the strength to pull on properly. Being stone-deaf she had expressive little gestures indicating when she had understood your pantomimic conversation; she liked a good joke and had a sweet way of lifting her hand and covering her mouth when amused or pleasantly shocked. Dear old Grand-mama Josephine had the most lovely nose I have ever seen; it was one of God's perfections."

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Post by: grandduchessella on January 01, 2013, 04:30:32 PM
Antonia (her MIL): "My future mother-in-law's looks were a great disappointment to me. Having heard that she had been a great beauty, I was all eagerness to see her, but I could not reconcile myself to this pale-faced, pale-lipped, Grecian-nosed woman with the too-small bust and too-long legs. These proportions can occasionally be beautiful, but in her case, the hips being enormous, there was something about her figure which made you feel positively uncomfortable. Had I been older, I would no doubt have understood how handsome her features still were. She was most loving and charmingly kind to me, which I later realized must have been somewhat of an effort, because, being an ardent Catholic, it was a great distress to her to have a Protestant daughter-in-law...MY MOTHER-IN-LAW was an interesting, if not altogether a lovable, personality. She was profoundly artistic, an excellent painter, and deeply learned on certain subjects, such as botany, biology and natural history. But in other ways she had remained very narrow and her religion cramped instead of widening her heart, mind and sympathies. She was one of those people who knew no forgiveness of sinners unless it was imposed upon her in the confessional. She was a curious mixture of dignity and childish futility, vain, self-centered, small in her judgment of others; she had no wider sympathies. Life, with its broader human understanding, lay outside her field of comprehension. She lived in a small circle of rules, prejudices and conventions which she considered perfection. It was her love of beauty in general and of flowers in particular that made her congenial to me. But I never dared touch upon general subjects; human conflicts she was unable to grasp; she lived so protected, so out of the world, hedged in by her church, nursing her delicate health, everybody serving her, caring for her, spoiling her, that she was more like an old and very exigent child than a woman who had lived a real woman's life, with its temptations, conflicts, doubts, joys, passions and pain. This I learned little by little as the years went by, for our natures were made to clash, but at that first meeting she was merely an unexpectedly impressive, middle-aged lady who showered upon me every kindness and attention. I really think she liked me then, but there was also something else in this; I was to be shown off as favorite so as to spite Mädi, her eldest daughter-in-law. Of course, then I had no idea of this or I would have been less flattered by her manifestations of affection; but little by little I was to learn that Fürstin Antonia was a woman who could hate and resent in a way little in keeping with her religious principles, and the unfortunate Mädi was one of those who had known how to awaken her most lasting dislike."

Madi (her SIL): "Maria Theresa, born Princess Trani, was of the race of the Bavarian Wittelsbachs, and had some of their eccentricity; though exceedingly blue-blooded and occasionally even fascinating, there was something a bit odd and not quite to be reckoned with about Mädi. Life threw us little together; she showed me neither affection nor dislike. If I had known that I was being used to emphasize the disfavor in which she was held, I should have done everything to make friends, for my whole soul would have revolted against being unfairly played off against her. Ever so many years later, in the only heart-to-heart talk we ever had together, she confessed to me that she had imagined that I had been conscious of the way I was being used to humiliate her. This was a horrible revelation to me; and by the pain I felt, I think she was convinced that I had been utterly unaware of my mother-in-law's tactics. But the harm had been done....Somehow, Mädi could not fit in with the Hohenzollern family; she seemed actually to take pleasure in shocking them whenever she could. To all outward appearances her husband was patient and long-suffering; but they drifted apart, as their characters were fundamentally different. Mädi, without being good-looking, had what the French call "beaucoup de race." She was exceedingly thin, with pale blue eyes and a pathetic voice. Her health was not robust and she was quite an invalid, wheeled about in a chair, before she died at the age of forty-two. In those days she hardly ever came to Sigmaringen, and the saddest of all was that she saw very little of her children, to whom she was mother in name more than in fact, which made them rather sad and lonely little creatures. Mädi's one great love was her mother, Countess Trani, sister of the Empress Elisabeth of Austria, of the Queen of Naples and of the Duchess of Alençon. Countess Trani had the same wonderful figure as the Empress, tall, upright and incredibly slim; she was, however, much less beautiful. She, too, was a lover of solitude, somewhat of a hermit, living far away from her kind, proud, original, aristocratic, but difficult to get on with—a specialty her daughter had inherited. Poor Madi, she was a pathetic figure that but seldom crossed my path. We lived too far apart."
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Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on January 01, 2013, 04:46:31 PM
very interesting! thanks GD Ella for the info!
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Post by: Veronica on January 01, 2013, 05:22:25 PM
Yes, very interesting, especially the excerpt on Mädi. Thanks GD Ella!
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 01, 2013, 06:17:47 PM
Indeed. But Missy wasn't too critical of her own family. At least not in her memoirs. She found her sister Sandra sometimes hard to get along with and she did blame Sitta for her inability to hold on to Carol , but they were not found in her memoirs.
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 01, 2013, 06:23:05 PM
Great!! thanks so much GdElla!

 
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 01, 2013, 08:56:55 PM
I guess not getting along with her German in-laws make her push for the Allies much easier for Missy than Nando.
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Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on January 01, 2013, 09:12:51 PM
Missy always had anti-German feeling since her childhood, though of herself as an "English Princess" and while her father became Duke of Coburg, her new and German Governess try to make Missy and her sisters into "German Princesses" which both Missy and her sister Ducky fought back. Don't know much of Sandra, and as for Beatrice, she was too young. However for her brother Affie Jr as a sensitive soul didn't take the "German discipline" very well.
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 01, 2013, 10:59:00 PM
I think Sandra was the most German of the 4 sisters.
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Post by: slavona on January 04, 2013, 09:06:03 AM
Romanian royal family ( and not only) in 1895

(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/1895_zps0202b59c.jpg)

Queen Marie in 1928 at Rosiorii de Vede
(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/1928rosioriidevede_zps1eca692e.jpg)

At a parade with little Michael-from Diana Mandache blog
(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/paradaDM_zpseee7d45f.jpg)

In Cernauti 1924 ( with Masha, Ducky`s daughter)
(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/000a82tw_zps3f283b70.jpg)

 A poster with Missy
(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/regina-maria-afis_zps994dd8dd.jpg)
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Post by: slavona on January 04, 2013, 09:10:43 AM
(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/jgpbuc_zpsc2bd982b.jpg)
 Missy is day, Ducky is night


(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq148/slavona/RegnaMariaprintesaIleanaprintulNicolaeintrecowboys1926_02241012_zps9c7d7baf.jpg)
 Missy, Ileana, Nicholas between cowboys
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Post by: KarlandZita on January 19, 2013, 08:04:43 AM
Queen Marie with her sister Beatrice and King Alfons XIII of Spain in Madrid :

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/906589alphonse13marieetbeatrizamadrid.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=906589alphonse13marieetbeatrizamadrid.jpg)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 19, 2013, 10:32:18 AM
Wow ! Great find ! When was the picture taken ? I don't think Missy went to Spain often and Bee was in exile for a number of years.
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Post by: grandduchessella on January 19, 2013, 01:45:25 PM
She visited a number of times in the 1920s though this photo, judging by the clothes, seems to pre-date that. 
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 19, 2013, 03:46:30 PM
Also remember Bee was exiled after her marriage for a long time...
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Post by: grandduchessella on January 19, 2013, 05:17:49 PM
Marie made a number of visits which had nothing to do with her sister.
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 20, 2013, 12:39:00 AM
No... I am talking about the dating of the photo.
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Post by: Kalafrana on January 20, 2013, 04:59:47 AM
Alfonso is in mourning for someone. Does that help with the date? From the long dress Queen Marie is wearing I would say 1914 or earlier.

Ann
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 20, 2013, 12:36:57 PM
I think she wore similar clothes to the Paris Peace conference. That had to be before Bee's second exile. After The War, Bee was with her mother Marie Coburg in Zurich. So yes. I think it could be before WW I.
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Post by: Laura_ on January 27, 2013, 09:30:03 AM
Princess Marie in 1890:

(http://s7.postimage.org/j0wv0jzaf/Missy1890.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j0wv0jzaf/)


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Post by: Laura_ on January 27, 2013, 10:01:38 AM
Queen Marie in 1924:

(http://s7.postimage.org/73uo2h3s7/af1e905b233e632f01c707761721d4e7.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/73uo2h3s7/)

Crown Princess Marie with a group of children:

(http://s7.postimage.org/k6d0nfjaf/18436389.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/k6d0nfjaf/)
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Post by: Laura_ on January 27, 2013, 10:08:25 AM
(http://s14.postimage.org/6kyky5v3x/image.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6kyky5v3x/)
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Post by: Svetabel on January 27, 2013, 10:14:46 AM
Princess Marie in 1890:

(http://s7.postimage.org/j0wv0jzaf/Missy1890.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j0wv0jzaf/)




I would say a bit earlier, 1887-1888 years : )
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 27, 2013, 10:54:09 AM
Yes. Before her confirmation I think.
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Post by: KarlandZita on February 23, 2013, 07:43:08 AM
Marie, Ferdinand with their family during Great War :

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/662157RegeleFerdinandI.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=662157RegeleFerdinandI.jpg)

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/550498ReginaMariasiMisiuneamilitaraengleza.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=550498ReginaMariasiMisiuneamilitaraengleza.jpg)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 23, 2013, 01:22:45 PM
They do like their fur coats in those days. Nowadays, it is seldom that you see a member of any royal family in a full mink coat.
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Post by: Laura_ on February 24, 2013, 10:53:31 AM
(http://s16.postimage.org/eobvdmu05/6be5be3c516ac0b4311fa99fa91fd406.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
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Post by: Laura_ on February 24, 2013, 11:19:56 AM
(http://s7.postimage.org/ng1jntesr/18440862.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 25, 2013, 03:03:39 PM
Many people wonder where did Missy made her "costumes" ? I read she also shop at the couture houses while in Paris...
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 25, 2013, 03:54:16 PM
Missy loved to be photographed. I wonder how many times she been under the camera ?
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Post by: Laura_ on February 26, 2013, 06:45:47 AM
Here are two more pics, 1906 year:

(http://s23.postimage.org/cmbgy720b/8_J4_XJ66_KGKGPP1_MG5_F1_VBKDKPL16_UQ.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/4wekjl861/89_CCGYXUFI5_UUULFERTTTQHY88_GX5_T.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

The pictures come from the European Library / http://www.theeuropeanlibrary.org/tel4/
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 26, 2013, 10:55:59 AM
Yes. Missy was called "a butterfly" at that period of her life.
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Post by: KarlandZita on April 06, 2013, 07:48:12 AM
(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/86215630139241.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=86215630139241.jpg)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on April 06, 2013, 11:51:18 AM
Was it a book or a box in her hand ?
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Post by: KarlandZita on August 17, 2013, 06:51:00 AM
Marie with Queen Elisabeth of Romania, Mignon and Nicolas :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/976020familyro.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=976020familyro.jpg)
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Post by: KarlandZita on September 28, 2013, 08:55:50 AM
Marie and Ferdinand in Berne, 1924 :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/902611berne1924.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=902611berne1924.jpg)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on September 30, 2013, 05:34:42 PM
Who was the general Missy & Nando was talking to.
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Post by: lady on May 15, 2014, 03:04:45 PM
Queen Maria, Elisabeth, Ileana, Mignon and Baby Bee
(http://sia1.subirimagenes.net/img/2014/05/15/140515100703163231.jpg) (http://www.subirimagenes.net/i/140515100703163231.jpg)
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Post by: Eric_Lowe on May 20, 2014, 08:31:37 PM
Missy's coronation with Nando.
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Post by: Joanna on March 17, 2017, 09:18:09 AM
The Lost Painting in the Empress’ Bedroom in the Winter Palace

Is this the lost portrait of Marie?

http://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2017/03/the-lost-painting-in-empress-bedroom-in.html

Joanna