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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Rulers Prior to Nicholas II => Topic started by: grandduchessella on September 18, 2004, 07:37:27 PM

Title: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: grandduchessella on September 18, 2004, 07:37:27 PM
Ah, found one.

Alexis Aleksandrovich, son of Alexander II, to his father's widow about the behavior of her son (his half-brother), Prince George Yurevsky (Gogo), in the Navy.
Saturday, December 24, 1893 [Jan. 5, 1894]
St. Petersburg

Dear Princess, as I have already cabled you, I granted leave to Gogo [George], but only for your sake. He himself, of course, has not earned it, and unfortunately I must again repeat that I am extremely dissatisfied with his services.Both when on duty and on board during cruises he simply does not want to do anything at all; neither advice, nor the example of others have any effect whatever on him. Laziness, untidiness, and total lack of self esteem make him the laughing stock of his comrades and draw upon him the dissatisfaction of his superiors, who do not know what to do with him. Today I gave him a severe reprimand, and have ordered his superior, that is the Commander of the Ship, to punish him severely for every misdemeanor! Perhaps that will have some effect. I am writing you all this, because I am afraid that Gogo will hide the truth from you, all the more as he is past-master at inventing excuses and talking himself out of trouble. It seems to me he would do better to transfer to land service, for he will never make a good sailor! It is very unpleasant for me to have to write you all this, but what can I do. I send you my best wishes for the New Year, and trust that you and the children are well.
Heartily yours,
Alexis


Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: bookworm857158367 on October 15, 2004, 09:26:33 PM
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Does any have more pictures of Catherine and her children?  ;D please!


Oh yeah one more thing! Does anyone know how Prince George and Princesses Olga & Catherine married?

I know Gogo married and had only one child 'Alexander'

Olga married a Count of Merenberg and had three children two sons and a daughter

Catherine married twice first marrage two Sons and second no children.


George married once, to Alexandra Gfn von Zarnekau and had one son, Alexander 1900-1988. Alexander also had one son, George, who has no children.

Olga married Georg Gf von Merenberg and had two sons, Alexander and Georg and a daughter, Olga. She has two grandchildren, seven great-grandchildren, and two great-great grandchildren.

Catherine married Prince Alexander Bariatinsky, by whom she had two sons, Andrei and Alexander.  Andrei had a daughter, who had no children. Alexander had no children who survived infancy. Catherine married Prince Serge Obolensky secondly, but had no children with him.
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on November 11, 2004, 09:56:07 PM
I have found a picture of Alexander and Catherine's children


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/MMPC/Romanovs/Prince.jpg)

Olga, George and Catherine in the 1890s



Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: Lisa on April 25, 2005, 04:16:34 AM
Daughter Olga (1873-1925)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/lyzotchka1/olga18731925.jpg)
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: ZarevnaOlga on November 01, 2005, 01:54:06 PM
Alexander II. with Jekaterina Dolgarukaja (later Duchess Jurjevskaja) and theit Children Georgi and Olga
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/5648/oaf00671pr.th.jpg) (http://img32.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf00671pr.jpg)
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on December 26, 2005, 03:56:23 PM
Rather small sorry:  the Princess.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/MMPC/cahterinebofalle.jpg)


Her daughter Olga
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/MMPC/CountessOlga.jpg)
I must say, Olga does seem to have the Romanov beauty in her.
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: ashanti01 on January 26, 2008, 04:45:19 PM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/catherinedaughteraIIkatia.jpg)
Their daughter, Catherine
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on July 20, 2008, 05:37:50 PM
your welcome.  :)

i got more if you like:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/MMPC/A%20Imperial%20Album/Russia/Foto0086-1.jpg)


She was kind of ugly as child, but in her 30s, she looks good.
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: pastpalacelife on August 06, 2008, 10:14:14 PM
I'd like to see more pictures of Alexander II and Katya's children.
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: scrybe13 on December 23, 2008, 02:29:57 PM
Hello all. I'm new to the forum here and I was wondering if anyone has information about Prince George Yurievskey beyond what is already posted here?
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: rusmila on January 03, 2009, 10:28:36 AM
Welcom!About who Georg?Son of Alexander II or son of Alexander Georgievich Yurevskiy?
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: scrybe13 on January 10, 2009, 11:10:40 AM
His son Prince George Yurievsky
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: rusmila on January 13, 2009, 11:35:59 AM
He was born at 1871 as the first child of Alexander II and Chaterina.He got marrige at 1900 and his wife was Alexandra Zernkau.He study on Paris University.He work in russian navy and kraiser NikolasI.1900 he and his wife have got a child name Alexander.
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: scrybe13 on January 17, 2009, 01:46:27 PM
Thank you for that information. I'm trying to find out the circumstances surrounding his death. I read somewhere, but can't remember where, that he changed his name to George Romanov shortly after his divorce and that he served Russia as a spy for the Okhrana. O'm not sure if that is true, but it is interesting that in another text I found a George Romanov was responsible for breaking up a series of Bolshevick newspapers. I'd really like to learn miore about this, but there is very little to be found on the Internet.     
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: Ally Kumari on June 23, 2009, 06:24:19 AM
Katya Dolgoruka
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Romanovs/th_000855a6.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Romanovs/000855a6.jpg)

(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Romanovs/th_000846kd.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Romanovs/000846kd.jpg)

Her son Georgij
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Romanovs/th_000888wq.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Romanovs/000888wq.jpg)

Daughters Olga and Ekaterina
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Romanovs/th_00089yhs.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Romanovs/00089yhs.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Romanovs/th_0008az85.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Romanovs/0008az85.jpg)
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 01, 2010, 01:36:50 PM
Little Olga

(http://i48.tinypic.com/23t0etd.jpg)
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: ashanti01 on August 13, 2010, 08:31:19 PM
Prince George Alexandrovitch Yourievsky

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/georalexyourievsky001-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 01, 2010, 12:13:23 PM
Olga

(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5492/37311v.jpg) (http://img441.imageshack.us/i/37311v.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: Svetabel on October 01, 2010, 02:35:46 PM
Olga



 

No,that's her sister Catherine.
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: THERRY on January 10, 2011, 04:25:01 AM
Vladimir and his half sister Ekaterina Yurievskaya
http://img443.imageshack.us/i/cateryou.jpg/
Who is this woman? Someone can explain to me her relationship with Vladimir?
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: rachel5a on January 10, 2011, 05:02:10 AM
Catherine Alexandrovna Yurievskaya (9 September 1878 – 22 December 1959). she is the doughter of Alexander II and  Princess Catherine Dolgorukov, so i think step sister to Vladimir
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: Kalafrana on January 10, 2011, 06:27:07 AM
No, she was Vladimir's half-sister, as they had one parent in common.

Step-relationships are those purely through marriage. So Olga Paley's two children were Dimitri's stepbrother and stepsister, as the children of his stepmother by her previous marriage. Vladimir Paley was his half-brother, as the son of his father by the marriage to his stepmother.

Ann
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 11, 2011, 08:51:17 AM
Was she the one who married Prince Serge Oblensky, who wrote his memoirs in the United States ? I read Majorie Merriweather Post wanted to marry him, but he refused.
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: grandduchessella on January 11, 2011, 11:09:14 AM
Was she the one who married Prince Serge Oblensky, who wrote his memoirs in the United States ? I read Majorie Merriweather Post wanted to marry him, but he refused.

She married:

1) Prince Alexander Vladimirovich Baryatinsky and had two sons, Andrei (1902-1931) and Alexander (b.1905). Baryatinski died in 1910, at the age of thirty-nine.

2) Prince Sergei Platonovich Obolensky. They married in 1916 and in 1922 Obolensky left Catherine for Alice Astor, the daughter of John Jacob Astor IV (who went down on the Titanic) and they divorced in 1923. Serge & Alice married in 1924 and they had 2 children before divorcing in 1932. They had a huge mansion in Rheinbech, NY, the town which was the recent setting of Chelsea Clinton's wedding. (Alice Astor was quite a character if anyone wants to research her. Same goes for Serge.)
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: ashdean on January 11, 2011, 01:10:58 PM
Was she the one who married Prince Serge Oblensky, who wrote his memoirs in the United States ? I read Majorie Merriweather Post wanted to marry him, but he refused.
There is a unfinished portrait of Serge by Savery Sorine at Hillwood, Marjories former home in Washington DC now a incredible museum...
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: ashdean on January 11, 2011, 01:12:39 PM


2) Prince Sergei Platonovich Obolensky. They married in 1916 and in 1922 Obolensky left Catherine for Alice Astor, the daughter of John Jacob Astor IV (who went down on the Titanic) and they divorced in 1923. Serge & Alice married in 1924 and they had 2 children before divorcing in 1932. They had a huge mansion in Rheinbech, NY, the town which was the recent setting of Chelsea Clinton's wedding. (Alice Astor was quite a character if anyone wants to research her. Same goes for Serge.)
Alice had 4 husbands in total!
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: grandduchessella on January 11, 2011, 05:15:01 PM


2) Prince Sergei Platonovich Obolensky. They married in 1916 and in 1922 Obolensky left Catherine for Alice Astor, the daughter of John Jacob Astor IV (who went down on the Titanic) and they divorced in 1923. Serge & Alice married in 1924 and they had 2 children before divorcing in 1932. They had a huge mansion in Rheinbech, NY, the town which was the recent setting of Chelsea Clinton's wedding. (Alice Astor was quite a character if anyone wants to research her. Same goes for Serge.)
Alice had 4 husbands in total!

Yes, 1 Russian, 1 German and 2 Englishmen--the last husband was David Pleydell-Bouverie, grandson of the 5th Earl of Radnor. Her 2nd husband, Raimund von Hofmannsthal, married the daughter of the Marquess of Anglesley and Lady Victoria Manners (daughter of the Duke of Rutland and once rumored to be a bride for Victoria Melita's cousin Prince Arthur of Connaught.)

Anyway, not to get too off-topic. The Astors are an interesting bunch for those interested. Obviously, Waldorf gets referenced quite a bit on the Forum as a close friend of Queen Marie of Roumania's. Perhaps there's a general thread (or should be!) in either The Discussion Forum or Their World and Culture.

Anyway, a link to some info on Catherine and her siblings:

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=16020.0
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 16, 2011, 01:27:43 PM
If Serge Obolensky married an Astor, why did he later worked in a hotel and had to write his memoirs ?
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: ashdean on January 16, 2011, 04:12:33 PM
If Serge Obolensky married an Astor, why did he later worked in a hotel and had to write his memoirs ?
The hotel he worked in actually belonged to Alices brother Vincent....He no doubt was too much of a gentleman to take alimony off Alice...even if offered it!
Many people write their memoirs without having to for financial reasons.....the American billionaire Paul Mellon,the Dowager Duchess of Devonshire and her late husband,Rose Kennedy,Vincent Astors widow Brooke Astor....the list of wealthy people is endless....
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 17, 2011, 06:46:57 PM
I think he worked at the hotel until his death. He became a fixture there. I wonder if she met his former Russian wife again...
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: ashdean on January 18, 2011, 02:23:17 AM
I think he worked at the hotel until his death. He became a fixture there. I wonder if she met his former Russian wife again...
His Russian wife lived on £300 per year provided by Sir Henry Channon in total obscurity in the UK.
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 19, 2011, 04:04:46 PM
Thanks for the information. She seemed to dropped out of the royal radar after the death of her mother.
Title: Re: Children of Alexander II and Princess Ekaterina Dolgoroukaya
Post by: rachel5a on August 14, 2014, 02:31:42 AM
I think he worked at the hotel until his death. He became a fixture there. I wonder if she met his former Russian wife again...
His Russian wife lived on £300 per year provided by Sir Henry Channon in total obscurity in the UK.

Any reason why he was helping her? I don't see the conection between them?