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Title: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Namarolf on April 18, 2004, 11:35:29 PM
I've read GD Aleksey Aleksandrovich's only son (perhaps a legitimate one) was shot by the Bolsheviks in 1930-32. Does anyone knows more about his life and death? Even if he was not a GD or a prince, I wonder why he is never counted among the family members killed by the Communists. I also wonder about what happened to his children and grandchildren (he had a few) and where they may be now.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Thierry on April 19, 2004, 03:36:27 AM
Dear Namarolf,

In fact there is no legal proof that Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch did marry Alexandra Zhukovskya. That is the reason why his son never appeared among the family members killed by the Bolsheviks, unlike Prince Paley.

About his descendance, I must check in my books, but I do not have them at hand now. I will come to you later again.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Thierry on April 19, 2004, 03:09:29 PM
OK, I am back.

In his book "Descendances naturelles des souverains et grands-ducs de Russie de 1762 à 1910" (Paris, 1995), Jacques Ferrand says that a matrimonial union is not to be believed. But the boy, named Alexei, who was born from the love between Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch and Alexandra Vassilievna (who had been a maid-of-honor to Empress Maria Alexandrovna) was titled on March 21, 1884 (I do not know if it is O.S. or N.S.) by Imperial Ukaze "Count Belewsky-Joukovsky".
He married twice. From his first marriage with Princess Maria Petrovna Troubetzkoy (1872-1954), he got four children :
1. Elisabeth (1896-1975). Married twice, two children, two grand-children.
2. Alexandra (1899-?). Married twice, without children.
3. Maria (1901-1996). Married twice, one daughter.
4. Serge (1904-1953). Married, one daughter, three grand-children, two great-grand-children.

Most seem to live in the USA.

Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Almedingen on April 20, 2004, 09:25:47 AM
I wonder how much notice his father and the rest of the Romanov family took of him.  It is interesting that he was married at Ilinskoye.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Charles on April 20, 2004, 10:19:15 AM
Aleksei Alekseevich Belevskii-Zhukovskii is rarely mentioned in the many Romanov memoirs and other contemporary sources.  I have also never seen any photographs with him and other members of the imperial family.  It is a hunch, but I imagine the ties between the Belevskii-Zhukovskiis and the Romanovs were thin.  However, I would be interested in learning more if others know more.

Charles
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Martyn on May 08, 2004, 08:50:35 AM
In his book "The Romanovs 1818 - 1959" John Van Der Kiste states that Count Alexis Belevsky-Zhukhovsky had been appointed as an aide-de-camp by his uncle Grand Duke Serge, while the latter was Governor-General of Moscow.
Moreover, Serge and Ella were godfather and godmother to Alexis' son and daughter respectively.  John Van Der Kiste also says that on 3/16 Feb 1905 Serge, having received letters that threatened his life, begged Countess Belevsky-Zhukhovsky  to persuade her husband not to come on duty in attendance on him the following day.  Serge was not afraid of what might happen to himself but was not prepared to expose Alexis to danger, as he had a young family.  Sadly, Serge was correct to heed the warnings but paid the ultimate price nevertheless.
It would seem therefore that Alexis Belevsky-Zhukhovsky  and his family were fairly intimate with Serge and Ella; for Serge to attempt to protect Alexis in this fashion would seem to indicate not only the sensitivity of Serge, but also the regard that he felt for Alexis and his family.
I would very much like to know more about Alexis and what befell him after the revolution.  Can anyone help?
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: cimbrio on December 24, 2005, 07:39:17 AM
Just trying to re-surface some posts some of you may find interesting (so we don't create new ones because we're too lazy to search for them or don't know how to search for them ) ;)

Grand Duke Alexis Alexandrovich, father of Alexis Alexeievich Belevsky-Zhukovsky. Did he ever marry his son's mother?

(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/romanov/romanov3/1850%20Alexis-03.JPG)
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Svetabel on December 25, 2005, 08:26:38 AM
Grand Duke Alexey never married Alexandra Zhukovskaya. He wanted marry her bur the Imperial family (his father and mother) were against such an act.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: José on January 19, 2006, 05:26:00 PM
He is the less known of Tsar Alexander II's sons.

I know he made a morganatic marriage to Alexandra Zukovski, the daughter of a poet, when he was just 20.

Was he banished from court ? What did he do ?
Are there any pictures of Alexandra and him ?
Did they have a happy married life ?
I couldn't find any mention to children.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Sainte-Claire1875 on January 19, 2006, 05:38:16 PM
Hi Jose. I was confused about Alexis Alexandrovich myself, as I had heard of him being one of the brothers of Alexander III, but when I was looking at the family tree a couple weeks ago in one of my books, his name wasn't even on the family tree. In that very book he had been mentioned, but he wasn't even on the family tree. If that is the case, then perhaps he was banished? I have heard of royals being banished and 'wiped from the records' so-to-speak. But I'm afraid that's all the information I can give, and it's really not much help to you, I'm sure. If I find anything to help, I'll be sure to let you know.  :)
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Linnea on January 20, 2006, 12:40:17 AM
Here´s a picture of his son, also named Alexis
(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/romanov/romanov4/1871%20Alexis-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Svetabel on January 20, 2006, 12:50:02 AM
GD Alexey had been discussed on some threads of our Forums. Anyway I can answer your questions.
He really was in love with Alexandra Zhukovskaya (btw, a great friend of Princess Maria Mescherskaya, first deep love of Alexander III) and they had a son Alexey, later known as Count Belevskiy-Zhukovskiy. I've never seen any picture of GD Alexey and Alexandra together - and I am seriously doubt that such photos existed.
GD Alexey was not banished from the court or kicked out from Russia, but Alexander II, his father, gave him a good scolding and sent Alexey to a world cruise (Alexey would become a favourite of high-society women in New York).
As for morganatic marriage between Alexey and Alexandra till now this question has been a subject of discussing...though many historians think that the marriage took place.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: grandduchessella on January 20, 2006, 08:03:26 AM
He made a very well-publicized trip to Louisiana (being Grand Marshal of the Mardi Gras parade) and the West, posing with Buffalo Bill. He was apparently quite the hit. In the movie Maverick (with Mel Gibson) the Russian Grand Duke shown out in the West is based (loosely) on Alexis.

C. Zeepvatt wrote an article about him (it's also in Romanov Autumn) called 'Fast Women and Slow Ships'. He spent a good deal of time in Paris and had a correspondence with his father's widow Catherine--he seemed to get along with her better than most and acted a bit as a liaison betwen her and Alexander III.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: José on January 20, 2006, 08:58:31 AM
I never saw that movie.

But one of Lucky Luke's books is about the visit to the USA of a Russian Grand-Duke  ::)
May be he left such a hard impression that he is still remebered there.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: David_Pritchard on January 20, 2006, 07:12:13 PM
Paraphrased from Burke's Royal Families of the World, Volume I:

Aleksei Aleksandrovich, born at Saint Petersburg 14 January 1850; died unmarried* at Paris 27 November 1908.

*The Grand Duke Aleksei Aleksandrovich is alleged to have contracted a marriage in Italy in 1870 with Alexandra (born at Dusseldorf 11 November 1842; died 1899), daughter of the celebrated poet Vassili Zhukovsky, by his wife Elisabeth von Reutern. The marriage, if it took place, was never recognised; and is said to have been annulled. There was however, one son of the union, Count Aleksei Aleksandrovich Believskoy-Zhukovsky, who married twice and left descendants.

According to Paul Theroff's Online Gotha the son, Count Believskoy-Zhukovsky was murdered by the Communists like so many of the Romanov descendants. His entry and that of his daughter is as follows:

1h) Ct Alexei Belevsky-Zhukovsky (Salzburg 26 Nov 1871, k.by Soviets in the Caucasus 1930/2); m.1st Ilyinskoye 29 Aug1894 (div) Pss Maria Troubetskoya (Elezavetino 18 Jun 1872-Paris 20 Mar 1954); m.2d Bss Nathalie Schöpping
 
1i) Css Elisabeth Belevsky-Zhukovsky (Moscow 8 Sep 1896-Princeton, NJ 30 Jul 1975); m.1st Moscow Jan 1917 Peter Perevostchikov (Moscow 8 Mar 1872-Florence 28 Jun 1937); m.2d Jul 1939 Arthur Lourie (St.Petersburg 14 May 1892-Princeton NJ 13 Nov 1966)
 
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: grandduchessella on January 27, 2006, 11:16:34 PM
more on his US trip in late 1871/early 1872 (including over his 22nd birthday):

--arrived in NYC in Nov 1872 and was rather homesick at first, writing to his mother "You can imagine how sad I was to greet the New Year alone, in a foreign land for the first time in my life without all of you ... " but he soon began to enjoy himself

--visited in 34 major American cities

--gave $5000 (in 1871 currency, a very large amount) in gold to those afflicted by the Great Chicago Fire and other very large sums to the slum-dwellers in such cities as Boston and NYC

--spent time in early 1872 buffalo hunting in Nebraska with such personages as Gen. Sheridan; Gen. George Amstrong Custer who became a close friend and who the GD maintained a correspondence with until Custer's death at Little Big Horn (there were also several pictures of the 2 men published in periodicals & newspapers); the legendary Buffalo Bill; Spotted Tail (who became chief of all the Sioux after Chief Red Cloud's arrest following, ironically, Little Big Horn) who  showed Alexis how to kill buffalo without using guns

--in 1997 Vice President Gore and then Russian
Prime Minister Chernomyrdin toured the Corcoran Gallery of Art's 5 room exhibit showing some of Russian royal families jewels, portraits, church vestments, and costumes. The exhibit was to commemorate the 125th anniversary of the grand duke's visit to America.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Svetabel on February 04, 2006, 08:42:49 AM
Portrait of Alexandra Zhukovskaya, lover and possibly morganatic spouse of GD Alexey.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/MP/azh.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Svetabel on February 04, 2006, 08:46:11 AM
And son of Alexey and Alexandra, Count Alexey Belevskiy-Zhukovskiy, here with his spouse Princess Maria Petrovna Trubetskaya.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/MP/aasonspouse.jpg)

Count Alexey wasan  A.D.C of his uncle GD Sergey, and his spouse Maria was a lady-in-waiting of Sergey's wife, GDss Elilzaveta.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Nadya_Arapov on November 04, 2006, 04:41:21 AM
By all accounts, the Grand Duke enjoyed his tour of America. According to his cousin, Grand Duke Alexander Mikhailovich (“Sandro”), he remembered the “belles” of Washington, D.C., with great affection for the rest of his life. The admiration appears to have been mutual.

The Grand Duke certainly had wonderful time buffalo hunting. He loved to recount his adventures in the West for the rest of his life to anyone willing to listen. Sadly, his trip encouraged others to hunt these beautiful creatures, also. Within two years, there were no longer any buffalo left in Hayes County, Nebraska, where he had hunted.

Among his hunting partners were the infamous Gen. George Armstrong Custer, Gen. Philip Sheridan, Gen. George Forsyth, Brulé Lakota tribal chief Spotted Tail (a.k.a. Sinte Gleska), and Buffalo Bill Cody. Here are links to articles about the Grand Duke’s stay in America.

Using Google, I found some wonderful pictures of Alexei taken during his trip to America. I will post them separately.

http://www.americahurrah.com/PRR/GrandDukeAlexis.htm

http://www.rootsweb.com/~nehayes/hist/RUSSIAN.htm

http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/archives/1918ks/biob/beesoncm.html

http://rs6.loc.gov/intldl/mtfhtml/mfpercep/percepduke.html
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Svetabel on November 04, 2006, 04:50:58 AM
By all accounts, the Grand Duke enjoyed his tour of America.

In view of that his father send him to USA just to put an end to Alexey's romance (and probably marriage) and Alexandra Zhukovskaya...Grand Duke enjoyed the tour but wrote sad letters to his brother Vladimir.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Nadya_Arapov on November 04, 2006, 04:58:49 AM
Have those letter ever been translated into English?
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Svetabel on November 04, 2006, 06:01:04 AM
Have those letter ever been translated into English?

I am not sure. The source of that letter is a Russian bio on Alexey by Z.Belyakova.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Dominic_Albanese on January 03, 2008, 05:33:35 PM
I know there is an existing thread on this subject - when I tried to find it I got an error saying the thread wasn't available to me...

So anyway, here you go...

I have a book on this visit somewhere also.

Enjoy!

dca

http://www.mccookgazette.com/story/1300873.html

The Grand Duke Alexis
Walt Sehnert
Monday, December 31, 2007

In November 1871, the Grand Duke Alexis, 4th son of the Czar of Russia came to the United States on a state visit. Ulysses S. Grant was President and he was determined that the Duke, the first of the Czar's family to visit the United States, should have a good experience, so that when he returned to Russia he would carry a good impression of the United States.
Alexis was just 21 years of age and apparently had had his fill of fancy dress balls. At a White House dinner in his honor he confided to his host, Civil War hero, Gen. Phil Sheridan that he was looking forward to some "real adventure" in the American West. Sheridan assured him that he could surely witness untamed Indians and shoot a buffalo from the vast herds, which thundered freely across wide-open spaces in the country beyond the Mississippi, and that he could have the protection of the War Department while doing so.

The Duke made his obligatory Eastern stops during the next two months, while Sheridan made preparations for the Duke's hunt in Nebraska in mid-January. He chose the colorful General Custer (age 32) to be the Grand Marshall of the hunt and William F. Cody (25) to be the hunt's guide. Custer had attracted much favorable attention during the Civil War, and four years later would attract lasting attention with his famous "Last Stand."

Cody had distinguished himself as a great buffalo hunter, and was already well known as "Buffalo Bill." Sheridan's instructions were to "Put on a real show for the Grand Duke!," which probably launched Cody's real calling -- the Wild West Show.

Cody located "friendly Indians" -- Chief Spotted Tail's Brule Sioux, camped along the Frenchman River in Southwest Nebraska. After spending the night in Spotted Tail's lodge (offering flour, sugar, and coffee and 1000 pounds of tobacco) he arranged for 100 (or more) braves to leave their winter quarters and perform for the Duke at a Camp, north of the present Hayes Center on the Red Willow Creek.

The Duke and his entourage arrived at Fort McPherson on Jan. 13, accompanied by Gen. Custer, resplendent in a new buckskin outfit. They were greeted by an enthusiastic throng, headed by Buffalo Bill. After speeches and much pageantry the Duke's party set out for the hunting grounds. It was quite a group -- Department of the Platte Generals, two companies of infantry in wagons, two companies of cavalry, the cavalry's regimental band, outriders, night herders, couriers, cooks, trailing groups of Indians and sutlers -- and three wagons of "champagne and royal spirits."

At the camp (Camp Duke Alexis) the Duke and his entourage were treated very well. They were provided with floored wall tents -- the floor in the Duke's tent was covered with an expensive Oriental rug. The tents were heated with Sibley stoves. Chief Spotted Tail's braves put on breathtaking displays of riding and fighting exhibitions with bows and arrows. In the evening, they danced around a huge camp fire, honoring their own and the Duke. The dances were punctuated with blood-curdling cries that "caused shivers down the spine of the observers."

The next day was Duke Alexis' birthday and spirits were high in camp, and grew mightily when, after a hearty breakfast, scouts rode in with the word that a herd of buffalo had been spotted. As the hunting party neared the buffalo herd Cody gave word that the Duke should have first shot. Aboard Cody's favorite horse, Buckskin Joe, the Duke rode to within 20 feet of the herd, then shot wildly, emptying six pistol shots -- into the air. The buffalo looked vacantly at the Duke and began to walk slowly away.

Cody rode up to the Duke and gave him his famed .48-caliber rifle, "Lucretia," the one with which he had killed 4,200 buffalo. This time, from a distance of only 10 feet, Duke Alexis fired and successfully killed his first buffalo.

This was cause for a real celebration. Alexis severed the buffalo tail and proudly waved it for all to see as he rode back to the camp. The Russians immediately began to pop the corks on the champagne bottles to celebrate. Spotted Tail offered his pipe to the Duke in congratulations -- to which the Duke declined, saying he preferred cigarettes. Before they arrived at the camp Alexis accidentally killed a buffalo cow, and again the Russians began to pop more champagne bottles. Later Cody remarked, "I was in hopes that he would kill five or six more before we reached camp, especially if a basket of champagne was to be opened every time he dropped one."

Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Dominic_Albanese on January 03, 2008, 05:34:35 PM
Continued...

The second day of the hunt saw the Duke's party bag another 56 buffalo. The only damper on the hunt was when a greatly shaken Duke Alexis was forced to climb a telegraph pole when he was charged by a wounded buffalo.

When the hunt broke up Sheridan suggested that Cody should drive the Duke back to North Platte in an open carriage, saying, "Shake 'em up a bit, Bill, and give us some old-time state driving!" Cody was delighted. Later he exaggerated (just a bit), "We covered six bumpy miles in three minutes." The Duke commented on his ride, "I would not have missed that ride for a large sum of money -- but rather than repeat it I would return to Russia by way of Alaska and swim the Bering Straight!"

Duke Alexis was well pleased with his hunting trip. When he and Cody parted in North Platte, he presented Cody with a fur coat and expensive cuff links. From there the royal train journeyed on to Denver and an honorary ball at the American House Hotel. Here Gen. Custer heard that another buffalo herd had been spotted near Colorado Springs. That hunting trek exhausted the party's supply of caviar and sparkling wine. Custer continued to accompany the Duke and his entourage through Kansas, to St. Louis, and finally to Florida, where the Duke boarded a Russian Steamer for home -- with his hundreds of pounds of iced buffalo meat carefully stowed aboard.

Though the Grand Duke Alexis was thrilled with his trip to America, his father Czar Alexander II was not happy with the Americanization of his son. Soon after his return the Duke married a commoner. His father was enraged and had the marriage annulled. Duke Alexis never married again, though he remained something of an "International Playboy" throughout his lifetime.

Soon after the turn of the century, Alexis headed the Russian Navy, but that ended badly. He resigned his post when the Japanese destroyed the Russian fleet in 1905, during the Russo-Japanese War 1904-05. His critics talked of Alexis' life as consisting of "fast women and slow ships," referring to his womanizing and naval failures. Perhaps the best time of his life had come during the glory days of the Old West when he had hunted buffalo with General Custer and Buffalo Bill. He died in 1908.

Source: Notes from the Frontier County Historical Society.

You can meet and visit with (re-enactors) Grand Duke Alexis, Generals Sheridan and Custer, Buffalo Bill, and Spotted Tail and others at the Grand Duke Alexis Rendezvous at Camp Grand Duke Alexis near Hayes Center. The Rendezvous, held each year in September, is very well done and a lot of fun, as well as being extremely educational. For more information contact Doris Vlasin, 73292 Old 17, Hayes Center, NE 69032
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: grandduchessella on January 03, 2008, 10:21:52 PM
I've merged the newest topic with the existing thread--I don't know why it wasn't able to open for you before, Dominic. I hope you enjoy looking at it--as you can see, there are a number of photos on the thread of his US trip.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Dominic_Albanese on January 04, 2008, 04:45:42 PM
Thanks Granduchess Ella - I guess I didn't have enough juice *grin*

Be well,

dca
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Dominic_Albanese on January 23, 2008, 04:54:26 PM
Yet another recent article on this visit...



Duke's adventure led him to Kansas
The Wichita Eagle
This is one in a series of vignettes celebrating Kansas history. The series' name comes from the state motto, Ad astra per aspera: "To the stars through difficulties."

BY BECCY TANNER

One hundred thirty-six years ago, Russian royalty and a cast of Wild West characters roamed the western Kansas prairie in a hunt reported in newspapers around the world.

Russia's Grand Duke Alexis was visiting the United States. At a party in Denver, he mentioned that he was looking forward to an American experience, "a real adventure."

Lt. Gen. Phil Sheridan, Gen. George Custer and "Buffalo Bill" William F. Cody arranged for a royal hunt through parts of Colorado, Nebraska and Kansas. Seventy-five cavalry horses, four six-mule teams and four ambulances were requisitioned from Fort Wallace. The grand duke's private train traveled to Hays.

The royal hunt involved a series of chases and charges into herds of buffalo. In Nebraska, it was arranged for the grand duke to see American Indians -- Chief Spotted Tail's Brule Sioux camp along the Frenchman River in southwest Nebraska.

The grand duke cut the tail off of one dead buffalo and danced.

An early pioneer of Dodge City, Chalk Beeson, participated in the hunt in Kansas. Years later, he would describe it:

"The camp train was well fitted up, and it made us cow punchers sit up to see the stuff the commissary department carried," Beeson wrote. "There was every kind of liquor, champagne, all sorts of delicacies in the way of edibles -- enough, it looked to me, to feed an army."

Champagne and other liquor flowed freely as the duke's train slowly made its way to Topeka where Kansans hosted a party for him on Jan. 22, 1872.

The next day, "The Kansas Daily Commonwealth" reported the menu: buffalo, rabbit, venison, moose, elk, bear, duck, turkey, prairie chicken, antelope, chicken wings, breaded pigs feet, scalloped oysters, quail on toast, crumbled and fried squirrel and deviled ham.

And that's not including the vegetables, pastries or desserts.

The duke, it seemed, had made an impression on Kansans.

Beeson recalled: "The Grand Duke spoke English with a slight accent, and was extremely affable to every one. Affable is the word, for despite his courtesy he never forgot, nor did you, that he was a great noble. It was not exactly condescension, but you knew the minute you saw him, that he did not belong to the common herd."

The duke was especially noticed, Beeson wrote, in a place and time "where a scout was just as good a man as Phil Sheridan, and a cow puncher as good as his millionaire boss."

Reach Beccy Tanner at 316-268-6336 or btanner@wichitaeagle.com.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Svetabel on August 22, 2008, 12:29:52 AM
Recently I've came across an on-line article about some new-discovered albums and papers of the Yusupovs and there was a mention there on a journal that GD Alexei had been writing all his life. This journal - a sort of diary - was discovered in the Yusupovs' papers! The journal begins in 1862 and ends in 1907 (year of Alexei's death). Seems to me the late bios on Grand Duke don't mention the journal so the find is really unique. The notes in the journal were not of a periodical character, and the article quotes some interesting lines and resumed that it's definitely the time to look at GD Alexei not only as a womanizer and fast-living person...
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: ashanti01 on August 23, 2008, 06:16:29 PM
Recently I've came across an on-line article about some new-discovered albums and papers of the Yusupovs and there was a mention there on a journal that GD Alexei had been writing all his life. This journal - a sort of diary - was discovered in the Yusupovs' papers! The journal begins in 1862 and ends in 1907 (year of Alexei's death). Seems to me the late bios on Grand Duke don't mention the journal so the find is really unique. The notes in the journal were not of a periodical character, and the article quotes some interesting lines and resumed that it's definitely the time to look at GD Alexei not only as a womanizer and fast-living person...

Very intresting news...rather odd that the Yusupov's would have GD Alexei's journal. Did the article mention if they plan to release the journal for the public? Also, I know it's a little off topic, maybe you can IM me with this, but did they mention anything specific about the albums and papers of the Yusupov's? New pictures, letters, journals maybe? Thanks Svetabel
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Svetabel on August 24, 2008, 01:24:43 AM
Recently I've came across an on-line article about some new-discovered albums and papers of the Yusupovs and there was a mention there on a journal that GD Alexei had been writing all his life. This journal - a sort of diary - was discovered in the Yusupovs' papers! The journal begins in 1862 and ends in 1907 (year of Alexei's death). Seems to me the late bios on Grand Duke don't mention the journal so the find is really unique. The notes in the journal were not of a periodical character, and the article quotes some interesting lines and resumed that it's definitely the time to look at GD Alexei not only as a womanizer and fast-living person...

Very intresting news...rather odd that the Yusupov's would have GD Alexei's journal. Did the article mention if they plan to release the journal for the public?

Yes,the author of the article also wonders how the Alexei's journal appeared in the Yusupovs papers. No mention of the planning publishing, the journal is being preserved in the Russian National Library for detailed research.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: General Sheridan on January 13, 2009, 10:24:54 AM
Hello everyone. I have many pictures to show of the Grand Duke Alexis in America. I can also tell you about his buffalo hunt as the campsite is partly on my mom's ranch and I have three 1872 pics taken there. Anyone interested? I would love for his decendents living in America to contact me. I have some information I am sure they would like to know.
--the General 
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: LisaDavidson on January 14, 2009, 12:47:06 AM
It would be great if you would post the pictures for us.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: ashanti01 on January 14, 2009, 12:09:10 PM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/gdalexei.jpg)
GD Alexei as a child. sorry its a little blurry.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: General Sheridan on February 23, 2009, 11:07:29 PM
It would be great if you would post the pictures for us.
I will post pics as soon as I figure out how. Can anyone give me a quick tutorial? Did you know that during the last weekend of September we have what we call The Grand Duke Alexis Rendezvous very near the spot of his 1872 buffalo hunt in Nebraska. All the big names are there like; "His Royal Highness the Grand Duke Alexis Alexandrovitch of the Royal Romanov Family of the Great Empire of Russia," Generals Custer and Sheridan (me), California Joe, Chief Spotted Tail, Two Lance, President Grant and Buffalo Bill. We entertain about 2500 people on average and this will be our 10th year. Everyone is welcome and its free. Google up the Grand Duke Alexis Rendezvous for more info.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: General Sheridan on February 28, 2009, 02:56:27 PM
It would be great if you would post the pictures for us.
I will post pics as soon as I figure out how. Can anyone give me a quick tutorial? Did you know that during the last weekend of September we have what we call The Grand Duke Alexis Rendezvous very near the spot of his 1872 buffalo hunt in Nebraska. All the big names are there like; "His Royal Highness the Grand Duke Alexis Alexandrovitch of the Royal Romanov Family of the Great Empire of Russia," Generals Custer and Sheridan (me), California Joe, Chief Spotted Tail, Two Lance, President Grant and Buffalo Bill. We entertain about 2500 people on average and this will be our 10th year. Everyone is welcome and its free. Google up the Grand Duke Alexis Rendezvous for more info.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: General Sheridan on March 10, 2009, 11:35:32 PM
His Royal Highness was considered a fine dancer even though he had huge feet. One paper reported that they were "simply enormous." Waltzes were the favorite dance of the rich in those days (1872) and dance cards were made up for each ball. The women would then have the man they danced with write his name next to the waltz on their dance card. The Grand Duke could speak English very well with only a slight accent. This was very helpful when young women whispered their address in his ear. He also spoke French and German fluently.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Marlene on March 11, 2009, 10:05:41 AM

Dear General,  Alexiis does have descendants in the USA -  Some of the descendants of his grandson Sergei ... they have the surname Neiroth.
Hello everyone. I have many pictures to show of the Grand Duke Alexis in America. I can also tell you about his buffalo hunt as the campsite is partly on my mom's ranch and I have three 1872 pics taken there. Anyone interested? I would love for his decendents living in America to contact me. I have some information I am sure they would like to know.
--the General 
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: General Sheridan on March 12, 2009, 12:54:45 PM
Thank-you so much. I will forward this on to my research department.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Marlene on March 12, 2009, 05:34:28 PM
Grand Dukes were Imperial Highnesess.

His Royal Highness was considered a fine dancer even though he had huge feet. One paper reported that they were "simply enormous." Waltzes were the favorite dance of the rich in those days (1872) and dance cards were made up for each ball. The women would then have the man they danced with write his name next to the waltz on their dance card. The Grand Duke could speak English very well with only a slight accent. This was very helpful when young women whispered their address in his ear. He also spoke French and German fluently.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: General Sheridan on March 14, 2009, 03:18:01 PM
Thank-you for that information Marlene. When I first began introducing the Grand Duke for our shows I called the Russian Emabassy in Washington, D.C. and was told to introduce him as "His Royal Highness, the Grand Duke Alexis Alexandrovitch of the Royal Romanov Family of the Great Empire of Russia." Any corrections to this intro would be greatly appreciated as I try my best to be historically correct. Some newspapers also reported his title as such. I will forward this on to some other Russians I have since met. Thanks again, the General.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Marlene on March 14, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
The Russian Embassy would unlikely to know how to address a long dead member of the Romanov family .. Any good genealogy on the Romanovs would have provided the right style ... for another ... if someone told you" the Royal Romanov Family of the Great Empire of Russia" would have been pulling your leg.

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Thank-you for that information Marlene. When I first began introducing the Grand Duke for our shows I called the Russian Emabassy in Washington, D.C. and was told to introduce him as "His Royal Highness, the Grand Duke Alexis Alexandrovitch of the Royal Romanov Family of the Great Empire of Russia." Any corrections to this intro would be greatly appreciated as I try my best to be historically correct. Some newspapers also reported his title as such. I will forward this on to some other Russians I have since met. Thanks again, the General.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Vecchiolarry on March 14, 2009, 05:14:07 PM
Hi,

In the book (catalogue) "The Tsar and the President" about Alexander II and Abrahoam Lincoln, ther e is a chapter about the Grand Duke Alexei's trip to USA.  Very intersting reading.

Alexei was the Dowager Empress Maria's favourite brother-in-law and in fact, her favourite Roamnov relative...
Both would dance the night away at balls;  and Alexander III (who hated dancing & parties) had a devil of a time getting them to "go home'...
Picture it:  diminuative Minnie and big feet Alexei dancing on into the night!!!

Larry
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Terence on March 14, 2009, 06:15:16 PM
Did you know that during the last weekend of September we have what we call The Grand Duke Alexis Rendezvous very near the spot of his 1872 buffalo hunt in Nebraska. All the big names are there like; "His Royal Highness the Grand Duke Alexis Alexandrovitch of the Royal Romanov Family of the Great Empire of Russia," Generals Custer and Sheridan (me), California Joe, Chief Spotted Tail, Two Lance, President Grant and Buffalo Bill. We entertain about 2500 people on average and this will be our 10th year. Everyone is welcome and its free. Google up the Grand Duke Alexis Rendezvous for more info.

Sounds very neat General.  I'd love to see that sometime.

While the title you have been using isn't his exact Russian title, it might be actually more authentic in this context.  If that's what you've found in newspapers it's a good indication of what Americans may have used at the time.  As an aside you could explain the proper title and what the common American reference was.

Funny country, tossing over their King yet still fascinated by royalty years later. :)

T
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: General Sheridan on March 15, 2009, 09:59:56 AM
Thank-you everyone. Would anyone be able to tell me the correct way to introduce the Grand Duke Alexis? And yes, people in America were fascinated by him. He was this country's first celebrity. In Milwaukee, which had a large number of Russian immigrants, the throngs of women had to be moved out of the way so he could pass through, by point of bayonet by the Wisconsin Volunteers. At a ball in Chicago one reporter wished to interview the Grand Duke, but said he could not even get within shouting distance because of the crowd of women surrounding him. Us Americans will always love royalty, I suppose. When Princess Diana was killed we as a country may have not shown the sympathy our good friends the Brits expected of us. That was because we were too busy dealing with our own shock, grief, and disbelief. She was our little princess too and we loved her. We are still obsessed with her. This was how Americans felt about the Grand Duke Alexis. Every major newspaper reported on his whereabouts in this country almost every day. The General.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Marlene on March 15, 2009, 11:18:54 AM
Diana was not "our little princess,"  nor were most obsessed (which in itself unhealthy) with her. 
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: LisaDavidson on March 18, 2009, 12:15:53 AM
Thank-you everyone. Would anyone be able to tell me the correct way to introduce the Grand Duke Alexis? And yes, people in America were fascinated by him. He was this country's first celebrity. In Milwaukee, which had a large number of Russian immigrants, the throngs of women had to be moved out of the way so he could pass through, by point of bayonet by the Wisconsin Volunteers. At a ball in Chicago one reporter wished to interview the Grand Duke, but said he could not even get within shouting distance because of the crowd of women surrounding him. Us Americans will always love royalty, I suppose. When Princess Diana was killed we as a country may have not shown the sympathy our good friends the Brits expected of us. That was because we were too busy dealing with our own shock, grief, and disbelief. She was our little princess too and we loved her. We are still obsessed with her. This was how Americans felt about the Grand Duke Alexis. Every major newspaper reported on his whereabouts in this country almost every day. The General.

It would not be good form for anyone to be introduced to the Grand Duke. Rather, people would have been introduced to him or presented to him. For example, if introducing General Custer to the Grand Duke, one would say to the Grand Duke:

"If it pleases Your Imperial Highness, may I present to you General George Armstrong Custer". He would always be addressed as "Your Imperial Highess" and would be referred to as "His Imperial Highness".

If I understand the reports correctly a large percentage of Americans saw the Grand Duke during his tour.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: General Sheridan on March 24, 2009, 09:14:11 PM
Hi,

In the book (catalogue) "The Tsar and the President" about Alexander II and Abrahoam Lincoln, ther e is a chapter about the Grand Duke Alexei's trip to USA.  Very intersting reading.

Alexei was the Dowager Empress Maria's favourite brother-in-law and in fact, her favourite Roamnov relative...
Both would dance the night away at balls;  and Alexander III (who hated dancing & parties) had a devil of a time getting them to "go home'...
Picture it:  diminuative Minnie and big feet Alexei dancing on into the night!!!

Larry

Thank you for that info Larry. Can you tell me more? The author of that chapter in "The Tsar and the President" made it sound as if I (General Sheridan) had fought several battles with Indians in the area of the hunt.  I became the commander of the Military Department of the Missouri in March of 1868. I "generaled" (from headquarters) several battles but never did I take up a rifle and shoot at an Indian. Susan Massie also says the Grand Duke was a poor dancer and we both know that is incorrect. One of my favorite books on the Grand Duke is "The Grand Duke Alexis in the United States of America" by William Tucker. Basically it is newspaper accounts about his travels here. I have some copies of other clippings stuck in my copy that he didn't put into print. There are several times when the Grand Duke's excellent dancing is referred to. She also has me inviting him on the hunt, which I did, but this was already in the works as "The Salt Lake Tribune" reported on 2 October, 1871, after the "Millionaires Hunt" that " ... Enough game will be left, we hope, for the Grand Duke Alexis when he takes a scurry over the hunting grounds." (The Grand Duke did not land on these soils until 22 November.) She made several more mistakes. I actually met the Grand Duke in Chicago, we later trained over to Omaha and met General Custer there, and then went to North Plattte before getting off the train and meeting Buffalo Bill. I wish you the best Larry. The General.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: General Sheridan on March 24, 2009, 09:31:52 PM
Did you know that during the last weekend of September we have what we call The Grand Duke Alexis Rendezvous very near the spot of his 1872 buffalo hunt in Nebraska. All the big names are there like; "His Royal Highness the Grand Duke Alexis Alexandrovitch of the Royal Romanov Family of the Great Empire of Russia," Generals Custer and Sheridan (me), California Joe, Chief Spotted Tail, Two Lance, President Grant and Buffalo Bill. We entertain about 2500 people on average and this will be our 10th year. Everyone is welcome and its free. Google up the Grand Duke Alexis Rendezvous for more info.

Sounds very neat General.  I'd love to see that sometime.

While the title you have been using isn't his exact Russian title, it might be actually more authentic in this context.  If that's what you've found in newspapers it's a good indication of what Americans may have used at the time.  As an aside you could explain the proper title and what the common American reference was.

Funny country, tossing over their King yet still fascinated by royalty years later. :)

T

Explain? But T, when reenacting one must stay in character all the time. Sometimes it is so funny to see the looks on peoples' faces when you know they want to ask you something but know you will give them an 1872 answer. I have been taught well. My friend General Custer (Steve Alexander) has been on the History Channel on 12 different programs and Buffalo Bill (Kirk Shapland) on three programs. Hmmm ... I'm still waiting for Hollywood to call. About being fascinated by royalty, in 1872 many Americans had just immigrated from some country that had royalty. T, this is your personal invitation to the Grand Duke Alexis Rendezvous in southwest Nebraska on 26 and 27 September, 2009. Come see me. I will be the one with three stars. The General.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: General Sheridan on March 24, 2009, 09:51:04 PM
Thank-you everyone. Would anyone be able to tell me the correct way to introduce the Grand Duke Alexis? And yes, people in America were fascinated by him. He was this country's first celebrity. In Milwaukee, which had a large number of Russian immigrants, the throngs of women had to be moved out of the way so he could pass through, by point of bayonet by the Wisconsin Volunteers. At a ball in Chicago one reporter wished to interview the Grand Duke, but said he could not even get within shouting distance because of the crowd of women surrounding him. Us Americans will always love royalty, I suppose. When Princess Diana was killed we as a country may have not shown the sympathy our good friends the Brits expected of us. That was because we were too busy dealing with our own shock, grief, and disbelief. She was our little princess too and we loved her. We are still obsessed with her. This was how Americans felt about the Grand Duke Alexis. Every major newspaper reported on his whereabouts in this country almost every day. The General.

It would not be good form for anyone to be introduced to the Grand Duke. Rather, people would have been introduced to him or presented to him. For example, if introducing General Custer to the Grand Duke, one would say to the Grand Duke:

"If it pleases Your Imperial Highness, may I present to you General George Armstrong Custer". He would always be addressed as "Your Imperial Highess" and would be referred to as "His Imperial Highness".

If I understand the reports correctly a large percentage of Americans saw the Grand Duke during his tour.

Thank-you so much for that info Lisa. I appreciate it greatly. And yes, the Grand Duke was met by large crowds wherever he went. At Fremont Nebraska it was supposed the Grand Duke would stop and say a few words. "The Tri Weekly Tribune" reported on a planned reception for the Duke; “The Grand Duke passed through the city Friday last enroute West. The eager crowd swayed to and fro straining their optics to get a view of the Duke. Councilman Tompkins was there to welcome and extend the hospitalities of the city. Judge Bell was there with a sample of Russian wheat, desirous of getting a learned opinion from the boy in regard to the genuineness of the article. Judge Usher had a well prepared speech on the history and progress of the town. Lou May was anxious to give Fremont quotations on groceries. Dr. Van Buren was prepared to urge him the immediate necessity of vaccination. Mr. Hawthorne was to have enlightened him on the existing affairs between the M.D.s and School Board. Uncle Jimmie Robinson was desirous of informing him that the Pebble Creek Mills made as good (as) flour as a “Juke” ever eat. Mr. Dorsey had one of his insurance cards ready to present. Attorney Munger was ready to get him out of any little scrape for nominal sum. Colson had a full exhibit of the finances in order to encourage him to locate among us. Rhodes was anxious for him to visit the whistle factory. And the ladies were ready to cheer him on his perilous journey. The Imperial (train) passed through the city at such a fearful rate of speed it was almost impossible to discover the color of the cars.”
The "Juke" part was poking fun at a misprint of another newspaper. And then there was this.
From The North Platte Democrat is a report of “ An attempt to assassinate Alexis-an obstruction of the U.P.R.R. track-from very reliable authority we gather information of a dastardly attempt to ditch the train that transported the royal visitor from Grand Island to this place. The occurrence took place near Elm Creek and if the train had been running on fast time would have succeeded in throwing it from the track and perhaps killing many persons on board.”
This turned out to be made up by a reporter trying to grab headlines.
Thanks again Lisa, My campaign hat is off to you. The General.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: LisaDavidson on March 25, 2009, 02:58:55 PM
Thank-you everyone. Would anyone be able to tell me the correct way to introduce the Grand Duke Alexis? And yes, people in America were fascinated by him. He was this country's first celebrity. In Milwaukee, which had a large number of Russian immigrants, the throngs of women had to be moved out of the way so he could pass through, by point of bayonet by the Wisconsin Volunteers. At a ball in Chicago one reporter wished to interview the Grand Duke, but said he could not even get within shouting distance because of the crowd of women surrounding him. Us Americans will always love royalty, I suppose. When Princess Diana was killed we as a country may have not shown the sympathy our good friends the Brits expected of us. That was because we were too busy dealing with our own shock, grief, and disbelief. She was our little princess too and we loved her. We are still obsessed with her. This was how Americans felt about the Grand Duke Alexis. Every major newspaper reported on his whereabouts in this country almost every day. The General.

It would not be good form for anyone to be introduced to the Grand Duke. Rather, people would have been introduced to him or presented to him. For example, if introducing General Custer to the Grand Duke, one would say to the Grand Duke:

"If it pleases Your Imperial Highness, may I present to you General George Armstrong Custer". He would always be addressed as "Your Imperial Highess" and would be referred to as "His Imperial Highness".

If I understand the reports correctly a large percentage of Americans saw the Grand Duke during his tour.

Thank-you so much for that info Lisa. I appreciate it greatly. And yes, the Grand Duke was met by large crowds wherever he went. At Fremont Nebraska it was supposed the Grand Duke would stop and say a few words. "The Tri Weekly Tribune" reported on a planned reception for the Duke; “The Grand Duke passed through the city Friday last enroute West. The eager crowd swayed to and fro straining their optics to get a view of the Duke. Councilman Tompkins was there to welcome and extend the hospitalities of the city. Judge Bell was there with a sample of Russian wheat, desirous of getting a learned opinion from the boy in regard to the genuineness of the article. Judge Usher had a well prepared speech on the history and progress of the town. Lou May was anxious to give Fremont quotations on groceries. Dr. Van Buren was prepared to urge him the immediate necessity of vaccination. Mr. Hawthorne was to have enlightened him on the existing affairs between the M.D.s and School Board. Uncle Jimmie Robinson was desirous of informing him that the Pebble Creek Mills made as good (as) flour as a “Juke” ever eat. Mr. Dorsey had one of his insurance cards ready to present. Attorney Munger was ready to get him out of any little scrape for nominal sum. Colson had a full exhibit of the finances in order to encourage him to locate among us. Rhodes was anxious for him to visit the whistle factory. And the ladies were ready to cheer him on his perilous journey. The Imperial (train) passed through the city at such a fearful rate of speed it was almost impossible to discover the color of the cars.”
The "Juke" part was poking fun at a misprint of another newspaper. And then there was this.
From The North Platte Democrat is a report of “ An attempt to assassinate Alexis-an obstruction of the U.P.R.R. track-from very reliable authority we gather information of a dastardly attempt to ditch the train that transported the royal visitor from Grand Island to this place. The occurrence took place near Elm Creek and if the train had been running on fast time would have succeeded in throwing it from the track and perhaps killing many persons on board.”
This turned out to be made up by a reporter trying to grab headlines.
Thanks again Lisa, My campaign hat is off to you. The General.

Thank you for the appreciation, General Sheridan. We'd love to see what you can post for us involving the Grand Dukes's visit.

My mother had an interesting "reenactor" experience years ago while travelling in Virginia. The reenactor introduced himself as General Stonewall Jackson's company clerk. Mom said, then you would be my great grandfather! Mom told the man about my g-g-g grandfather, who arrived in the US in the 1850's and was conscripted into the Confederate Army due to his talent with languages and writing. He was known in the US as Will Schilling and lived into the 20th century. She sent the man more details and photos.

As it happens, the reenactor's name? William!
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: General Sheridan on March 26, 2009, 03:23:55 PM
Thank-you everyone. Would anyone be able to tell me the correct way to introduce the Grand Duke Alexis? And yes, people in America were fascinated by him. He was this country's first celebrity. In Milwaukee, which had a large number of Russian immigrants, the throngs of women had to be moved out of the way so he could pass through, by point of bayonet by the Wisconsin Volunteers. At a ball in Chicago one reporter wished to interview the Grand Duke, but said he could not even get within shouting distance because of the crowd of women surrounding him. Us Americans will always love royalty, I suppose. When Princess Diana was killed we as a country may have not shown the sympathy our good friends the Brits expected of us. That was because we were too busy dealing with our own shock, grief, and disbelief. She was our little princess too and we loved her. We are still obsessed with her. This was how Americans felt about the Grand Duke Alexis. Every major newspaper reported on his whereabouts in this country almost every day. The General.
It would not be good form for anyone to be introduced to the Grand Duke. Rather, people would have been introduced to him or presented to him. For example, if introducing General Custer to the Grand Duke, one would say to the Grand Duke:

"If it pleases Your Imperial Highness, may I present to you General George Armstrong Custer". He would always be addressed as "Your Imperial Highess" and would be referred to as "His Imperial Highness".

If I understand the reports correctly a large percentage of Americans saw the Grand Duke during his tour.

Thank-you so much for that info Lisa. I appreciate it greatly. And yes, the Grand Duke was met by large crowds wherever he went. At Fremont Nebraska it was supposed the Grand Duke would stop and say a few words. "The Tri Weekly Tribune" reported on a planned reception for the Duke; “The Grand Duke passed through the city Friday last enroute West. The eager crowd swayed to and fro straining their optics to get a view of the Duke. Councilman Tompkins was there to welcome and extend the hospitalities of the city. Judge Bell was there with a sample of Russian wheat, desirous of getting a learned opinion from the boy in regard to the genuineness of the article. Judge Usher had a well prepared speech on the history and progress of the town. Lou May was anxious to give Fremont quotations on groceries. Dr. Van Buren was prepared to urge him the immediate necessity of vaccination. Mr. Hawthorne was to have enlightened him on the existing affairs between the M.D.s and School Board. Uncle Jimmie Robinson was desirous of informing him that the Pebble Creek Mills made as good (as) flour as a “Juke” ever eat. Mr. Dorsey had one of his insurance cards ready to present. Attorney Munger was ready to get him out of any little scrape for nominal sum. Colson had a full exhibit of the finances in order to encourage him to locate among us. Rhodes was anxious for him to visit the whistle factory. And the ladies were ready to cheer him on his perilous journey. The Imperial (train) passed through the city at such a fearful rate of speed it was almost impossible to discover the color of the cars.”
The "Juke" part was poking fun at a misprint of another newspaper. And then there was this.
From The North Platte Democrat is a report of “ An attempt to assassinate Alexis-an obstruction of the U.P.R.R. track-from very reliable authority we gather information of a dastardly attempt to ditch the train that transported the royal visitor from Grand Island to this place. The occurrence took place near Elm Creek and if the train had been running on fast time would have succeeded in throwing it from the track and perhaps killing many persons on board.”
This turned out to be made up by a reporter trying to grab headlines.
Thanks again Lisa, My campaign hat is off to you. The General.

Thank you for the appreciation, General Sheridan. We'd love to see what you can post for us involving the Grand Dukes's visit.

My mother had an interesting "reenactor" experience years ago while travelling in Virginia. The reenactor introduced himself as General Stonewall Jackson's company clerk. Mom said, then you would be my great grandfather! Mom told the man about my g-g-g grandfather, who arrived in the US in the 1850's and was conscripted into the Confederate Army due to his talent with languages and writing. He was known in the US as Will Schilling and lived into the 20th century. She sent the man more details and photos.

As it happens, the reenactor's name? William!

That is so awesome Lisa. What is fun as a reenactor is to travel on an airline. I wear my uniform because airlines do not have a great reputation for getting your luggage to the same destination you are travelling to. Then you are at some big reenactment without a uniform. You would be surprized at how many new friends you can meet with just a smile. They all want to know where you're going and who you are. Sometimes after a short conversation they say, "It was good to meet you General Sherman." I have to say, "No, General Sheridan." I have met very few people who are not interested in history and especially the Civil War. And yes, many times I have had to stick up for my Indian fighting friend, General Custer, and to stay in character these "discussions" can become heated. By the way, in my "real" life one of my best friend's legal first name is "Duke" and I have an employee named Alexis Custer. The General.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Olgasha on April 02, 2009, 04:56:58 AM
GD Alexei Alexandrovich:
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9571/gdaleksei3.jpg)

Here he looks like his nephew Dmitri Pavlovich, isn't he? ;)
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2755/gdaleksei5.jpg)

(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3582/gdaleksei.jpg)

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3032/gdaleksei4.jpg)

Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Royal Bulgaria on April 02, 2009, 04:58:26 AM
Wonderfulllll totally thank you about this ones  ::)
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: General Sheridan on April 11, 2009, 11:28:56 AM
Recently I've came across an on-line article about some new-discovered albums and papers of the Yusupovs and there was a mention there on a journal that GD Alexei had been writing all his life. This journal - a sort of diary - was discovered in the Yusupovs' papers! The journal begins in 1862 and ends in 1907 (year of Alexei's death). Seems to me the late bios on Grand Duke don't mention the journal so the find is really unique. The notes in the journal were not of a periodical character, and the article quotes some interesting lines and resumed that it's definitely the time to look at GD Alexei not only as a womanizer and fast-living person...
 

Very intresting news...rather odd that the Yusupov's would have GD Alexei's journal. Did the article mention if they plan to release the journal for the public?




Yes,the author of the article also wonders how the Alexei's journal appeared in the Yusupovs papers. No mention of the planning publishing, the journal is being preserved in the Russian National Library for detailed research.


My profesor friends have a contact in Russia who did research on this and made this report.

Russian National Library.
Manuscript Department.
Fond 890 [Prince Yusupov] file 83. Journal of Grand Duke Aleksei
Aleksandrovich. Years 1862-1907.
131 pages and versos.
 
It is written in Russian, includes pictures.
There are no notes for necessary period.
He writes about voyage on Volga in 1869; then a break.
First next entry is dated with the year 1872 (no date):
Page 258. A note on the page top: "Frigate Svetlana in round-the-word navigation".
Text is started with: "I did not write in this journal for a long, very long time". Then, he writes about his childhood, relations with parents, sad general reflection about his life.
The note from one side of the page: "The pages should be burnt down. They were precious for me, but it is not for others".
Next four pages are cut out.
Then, there are notes for 1899, 1907.
 
Best wishes,
 
Elena.

There did not seem to be anything I could use in my next book I am writing about his trip to America. My last one was called The Last Great Buffalo Hunt. The General.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: General Sheridan on April 11, 2009, 11:55:41 AM

Great pics. Thank-you so much. The General.

Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: General Sheridan on May 21, 2009, 11:28:19 AM
Did you know that during the last weekend of September we have what we call The Grand Duke Alexis Rendezvous very near the spot of his 1872 buffalo hunt in Nebraska. All the big names are there like; "His Royal Highness the Grand Duke Alexis Alexandrovitch of the Royal Romanov Family of the Great Empire of Russia," Generals Custer and Sheridan (me), California Joe, Chief Spotted Tail, Two Lance, President Grant and Buffalo Bill. We entertain about 2500 people on average and this will be our 10th year. Everyone is welcome and its free. Google up the Grand Duke Alexis Rendezvous for more info.

Sounds very neat General.  I'd love to see that sometime.

While the title you have been using isn't his exact Russian title, it might be actually more authentic in this context.  If that's what you've found in newspapers it's a good indication of what Americans may have used at the time.  As an aside you could explain the proper title and what the common American reference was.

Funny country, tossing over their King yet still fascinated by royalty years later. :)

T
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: General Sheridan on May 21, 2009, 11:43:35 AM
Did you know that during the last weekend of September we have what we call The Grand Duke Alexis Rendezvous very near the spot of his 1872 buffalo hunt in Nebraska. All the big names are there like; "His Royal Highness the Grand Duke Alexis Alexandrovitch of the Royal Romanov Family of the Great Empire of Russia," Generals Custer and Sheridan (me), California Joe, Chief Spotted Tail, Two Lance, President Grant and Buffalo Bill. We entertain about 2500 people on average and this will be our 10th year. Everyone is welcome and its free. Google up the Grand Duke Alexis Rendezvous for more info.

Sounds very neat General.  I'd love to see that sometime.

While the title you have been using isn't his exact Russian title, it might be actually more authentic in this context.  If that's what you've found in newspapers it's a good indication of what Americans may have used at the time.  As an aside you could explain the proper title and what the common American reference was.

Funny country, tossing over their King yet still fascinated by royalty years later. :)

T

Another thing I have noticed is the pronouncing of his name. After spending one day last week with 5 Russian women (long story) they all told me it should be pronounced Ah-lex-see. One (Svetlana) pointed at the word Alexis and said, "That wrong." I have only seen his name spelled Alexsei in modern literature. I have thousands of examples of his name spelled Alexis in 1872. Could it be that it was actually pronounced Ah-lex-see in 1872, but spelled Alexis???  The General.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Svetabel on May 23, 2009, 06:28:31 AM


Another thing I have noticed is the pronouncing of his name. After spending one day last week with 5 Russian women (long story) they all told me it should be pronounced Ah-lex-see. One (Svetlana) pointed at the word Alexis and said, "That wrong." I have only seen his name spelled Alexsei in modern literature. I have thousands of examples of his name spelled Alexis in 1872. Could it be that it was actually pronounced Ah-lex-see in 1872, but spelled Alexis???  The General.

'Alexis' is French form of 'Alexei'. Alexis was a more comfortable way for people in other countries to spell Alexei's name.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Ally Kumari on August 11, 2009, 09:21:44 AM
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Romanovs/th_MES11260.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Romanovs/MES11260.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 27, 2010, 09:40:48 AM
Grand duke Alexis Alexandrovich. From the Musee D`Orsay

(http://i46.tinypic.com/f1jn8x.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: ashanti01 on August 07, 2010, 07:33:15 PM
Has anyone heard any further news regarding GD Alexei's journal that was discovered a few years back in the Yusupov archives?
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Svetabel on August 08, 2010, 01:39:36 PM
Has anyone heard any further news regarding GD Alexei's journal that was discovered a few years back in the Yusupov archives?

No. No news.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: ashanti01 on August 08, 2010, 06:34:44 PM
That's a pity. I would love to be able to read his journal entries. Hopefully there will be news soon.
Title: Re: Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch
Post by: Olgasha on August 23, 2010, 05:49:23 PM
(http://sergekot.com/media/uploads/imppalacesspb/alealex/3.jpg)
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 24, 2010, 08:27:16 AM
Alexei in New York

(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8126/6666396.jpg) (http://img832.imageshack.us/i/6666396.jpg/)

 
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Post by: ashanti01 on January 25, 2011, 02:43:44 PM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/GD%20Alexei%20A/alexeisonalexei-1.jpg)
Count Alexei Alexeevich Belevsky-Zhukovsky, son of GD Alexei as a child.

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Post by: Svetabel on February 21, 2011, 03:45:31 AM
GD Alexei

(http://www.picatom.com/1t/al-3-th.jpg) (http://www.picatom.com/1t/al-3.html)

Stunning resemblance to his brother Alexander III
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Post by: ashanti01 on March 17, 2011, 01:25:19 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/gdalexlinacav001.jpg)
Grand Duke Alexei with Lina Cavalieri
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on March 20, 2011, 09:32:56 AM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/gdalexlinacav001.jpg
Grand Duke Alexei with Lina Cavalieri

Awesome! finally something new. Thanks for sharing!! (nd btw, Lina was an stunning woman. Look at that gorgeous smile!!)
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Post by: ashanti01 on March 20, 2011, 05:35:09 PM
GD Alexei and GD KR??

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/gdalexkondog.png)
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Post by: Svetabel on March 21, 2011, 12:45:06 AM
GD Alexei and GD KR??



Looks like him. Both were the sailors, so why not to take a photo together?
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Post by: Svetabel on March 06, 2012, 05:37:10 AM
GD Alexei with his brother Pavel

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/gdap.jpg)
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Post by: mishaxenia on April 16, 2012, 10:40:46 AM
Count Alexei Alexeevich Belevsky-Zhukovsky, son of GD Alexei

(http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/50077/2272536450105221653S500x500Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2272536450105221653oypTyQ)

I have read that  Alexei   Alexeevich  it was in service near the grand duke Serge. Which it was its assignment ? imperial guard?
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Post by: Svetabel on April 16, 2012, 12:34:24 PM


I have read that  Alexei   Alexeevich  it was in service near the grand duke Serge. Which it was its assignment ? imperial guard?

He was GD Sergei's ADC, and married lady-in-waiting of GDss Elizaveta (wife of GD Sergei). The Grand Ducal couple had a very deep affection to the Belevskiy, GD Sergei even bought a house for them in Moscow.
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Post by: mishaxenia on April 16, 2012, 01:29:48 PM
Thanks, I have read that one has married in Il’yinskoe, and after the dead  of the grand duke Serge  it has lived in Germany till 1914.
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Post by: mishaxenia on April 16, 2012, 02:05:01 PM
 An intense portrait of the  Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovitch


(http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/14188/2675430090105221653S500x500Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2675430090105221653WsuDZc)
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Post by: mishaxenia on May 28, 2012, 01:47:55 PM



http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/51261/2262551530105221653S500x500Q85.jpg


Count Alexei Alexeevich Belevsky-Zhukovsky, son of GD Alexei, in uniform
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Post by: Chris_H on July 04, 2013, 10:24:12 AM
(http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s477/chrishiggins1980/Picture649_zpsbb853749.jpg) (http://s1053.photobucket.com/user/chrishiggins1980/media/Picture649_zpsbb853749.jpg.html)[]
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Post by: Kalafrana on July 05, 2013, 05:17:08 AM
The resemblance to the young unbearded Alexander III is very obvious.

Ann
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Post by: Chris_H on July 05, 2013, 11:38:13 AM
I thought so too, I think that Alexander III and Grand Duke Alexei look like each other the most, compared with their other three brothers
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Post by: Chris_H on July 06, 2013, 01:42:27 PM
[(http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s477/chrishiggins1980/Picture682_zps68ea14d3.jpg) (http://s1053.photobucket.com/user/chrishiggins1980/media/Picture682_zps68ea14d3.jpg.html)]
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 06, 2013, 03:58:49 PM
Thats grand duke Vladimir Alexandrovich
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Post by: Chris_H on July 06, 2013, 04:09:50 PM
picture is from Romanoff un album de famille 1989
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 06, 2013, 06:05:56 PM
Yup, but thats Vladimir. Maybe it was mislabeled?
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Post by: Chris_H on July 06, 2013, 06:17:55 PM
It could of been, even Jacques Ferrand is human and the brothers did have similar appearances.  The caption said it was from 1890 and from a costume ball. 
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on July 06, 2013, 06:25:56 PM
Actually, is from the 1883 s ball

here more pictures of it , included the one you posted in full

http://oliaklodvenitiens.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/bal-a-saint-petersbourg-23-janvier-1883/
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Post by: Chris_H on July 06, 2013, 06:33:59 PM
Wow Carolath Habsburg!  Great pictures and site!  I wonder why it was mislabeled.  Maybe it was the beard. 
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Post by: Kalafrana on July 07, 2013, 08:39:42 AM
The  3 elder brothers looked quite alike, Sergei and Paul were rather different, especially Paul.
Ann
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Post by: Chris_H on July 07, 2013, 02:14:21 PM
Hi Ann, yes I agree, the 3 elder brothers definitely look quite alike.  Paul looks very different from all of them
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Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on February 07, 2015, 12:55:20 PM
Is it true Grand Duke Alexei  visited  Tennessee
Title: A Russian Grand Duke In Menphis
Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on November 23, 2015, 04:12:43 PM
is it true that  Nicholas II  Uncle  visited Tennessee  in the 1870s
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Post by: Forum Admin on November 23, 2015, 08:11:13 PM
Yes, Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovich visitied the US in 1871-72.  Among many stops, he visited Memphis 2 February 1972 for six days.
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Post by: Kalafrana on November 24, 2015, 03:17:53 AM
Any indications why he went to Memphis, and what he got up to there?

ann
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Post by: Maria the Beautiful on November 24, 2015, 07:05:11 AM
Any indications why he went to Memphis, and what he got up to there?

ann
Lookin'  for Elvis?   . . . .sorry . . . I couldn't resist.
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Post by: edubs31 on November 24, 2015, 08:45:34 AM
Any indications why he went to Memphis, and what he got up to there?

ann
Lookin'  for Elvis?   . . . .sorry . . . I couldn't resist.

"There's a pretty little thing waiting for the Duke, down in the Jungle Room..."
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Post by: Forum Admin on November 24, 2015, 09:19:03 AM
I suggest you obtain "Alexis in America: A Russian Grand Duke's Tour, 1871-187
 By Lee A. Farrow
2014, Louisiana State University Press.
He stayed at the Peabody Hotel,  was entertained at a lavish party.  Did nothing for 2 days, resting up and relaxing with his entourage.  Monday he toured the city, then another lavish ball at the Peabody.  He met Jefferson Davis.  He left on the steamer "The Great Republic"

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Post by: Kalafrana on November 24, 2015, 11:54:47 AM
Two days recovering from a lavish party!

Ann
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Post by: Romanov_Fan19 on November 24, 2015, 12:46:45 PM
OMG THANKS
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 15, 2016, 01:26:25 PM
Hi!! i was wondering about this portrait

http://www.alexanderpalace.org/jewels/gda.html

It says that he s Alexei, but clearly its not him,  but his brother, Vladimir Alexandrovich.

Does anybody knows why the museum got it bad labeled? Thanks in advanced!
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Post by: Ally Kumari on April 25, 2016, 01:12:16 PM
GRand Duke Alexei Alexandrovich by F.M. Reichert, 1863

(http://36.media.tumblr.com/bb892d7a5254c9db1ae6791d070613dc/tumblr_o63tbzlNz61rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
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Post by: Joanna on April 20, 2017, 09:09:10 AM
1849 - A sad year for the Imperial Family
Why the error by authors?

https://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2017/04/incorrect-date-of-birth-of-grand-duke.html

Joanna
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Post by: Grandoffsky on January 23, 2018, 04:03:24 PM
In his book "The Romanovs 1818 - 1959" John Van Der Kiste also says that on 3/16 Feb 1905 Serge, having received letters that threatened his life, begged Countess Belevsky-Zhukhovsky  to persuade her husband not to come on duty in attendance on him the following day.  Serge was not afraid of what might happen to himself but was not prepared to expose Alexis to danger, as he had a young family.  Sadly, Serge was correct to heed the warnings but paid the ultimate price nevertheless.

Though it is true that Count Alexei Belevsky was close to GD Sergei and GDss Elizabeth, I wonder where Van Der Kiste got the information that GD Sergei begged Alexei's wife to persuade her husband not to come on duty in 1905, especially since they got divorced in 1904.

On the other hand, I've looked through GD Sergei's biographical materials and think that they give quite a bit of information to be able to make out some character traits of Count Alexei Alexeevich Belevsky-Zhukovsky, son of GD Alexei Alexandrovich.

V.F Dzunkovsky remebers the first time he met Count Belevsky on 1 Feb 1892 right after he had become GD Sergei's adjutant. "[..] The same day I met for the first time Count Belevsky, son of GD Alexei Alexandrovich. He was raised abroad at his mother's, who was the daughter of the poet Zhukovsky, and he had come to Russia by the invitation of his uncle GD Sergei Alexandrovich, who, by his inherent kindness, arranged his voluntary enrolment in the Sumskoi dragoon regiment and accommodated him in his [GD Sergei's] home in Neskuchnoe. He was a handsome young man, a copy of his father, only with more delicate features, acted modestly, spoke all the languages brilliantly, was very well raised and left a very good impression."

On June 13th GD Sergei writes to his brother GD Paul "Tomorrow Belevsky comes to visit us for a while, a fresh element works beneficially on me - he looks upon life so brightly."

On 17th June he writes to GD Paul again: "Belevsky, unfortunately, left us yesterday - he went abroad with his mother, but he will be back in autumn. I positively miss him - always so humble and joyful!"

On 14th dec 1892 GD Sergei writes to Paul: "Belevsky was at ours - looking good, in very high spirits and is going on a bear hunt with Nicholas Maltsov."

On 11 March 1893 he writes again to Paul :"They say Belevsky has joined the Sumskoi regiment."

On 30th May GD Sergei tells his brother that Belevsky has moved with them to Ilinskoe (their country estate near Moscow). And on 3rd June he writes that "baby [Maria Pavlovna the younger] was playing and flirting with Belevsky- very funny."


Count Belevsky got engaged to Princess Maria Petrovna Troubetzkaya (a lady in waiting of GDss Elizabeth) around 20th of December 1893. Dzhunkovsky writes of this occasion: "On 20s of December Princess Troubetzkaya, lady in waiting of the Grand Duchess, was pronounced the fiancee of Count Belevsky - the son of GD Alexei Alexandrovich from his morganatic marriage to the daughter of the poet Zhukovsky. Everybody was very happy, especially GD Sergei Alexandrovich, who dearly loved his nephew and took great care of him. Princess Troubetzkaya was a wonderful girl and everybody was happy for her as well."

GD Sergei writes on this subject to his good friend and cousin Konstantin Konstantinovich on 5th Jan 1894: "We were also greatly rejoiced by the wedding of Marusia Troubetz[kaya] and Belevsky - it is all so fresh, young and great!"

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Post by: Grandoffsky on January 23, 2018, 04:08:20 PM
[cont.]

In 1894 they spend Easter together, In June 1894 on return to Ilinskoe after being away Grand Duke finds both GDss Elizabeth and Count Belevsky ill with a cold, sore throat and fever.

However, soon Dzunkovsky writes: "On 17th of August in Moscow was the wedding of Count Belevsky to Princess Troubetzkaya, and I was very sorry that I could not be there.

Dzunkovsky says the wedding happened in Moscow, but I have also read that it took place in Ilinskoe. Don't know which is right.
It is know that GD Sergei bought a house in Moscow for the newlyweds.

GD Sergei often writes about meeting Marusia and Alexei in his diary, e.g. 28 Oct 1894 (the first day after returning home to Moscow after the death of Alexander III) "Saw Marusia and Alexei - they are glowing. Supper with Uncle Misha and Belevskys."; the next day they dined together again, after which the Grand Ducal pair left for the funeral of Alexander III and wedding of Nicky and Alix. After their return on 13th Dec, they spent the first evening with the Belevskys "Alexei and Marusia dined with us and stayed the evening."

On 14th december he writes to GD Paul: "It was a great pleasure to see dear Belevskys - they seem flourishing - she seems younger and more beautiful."
On 15th GD Sergei writes in his diary "at 5 with wife to Belevskys -Zhukovsky was there - it is wonderful at theirs, cosy and nice - drank tea and looked at everything. Humorous monkey."

The next day also writes to GD Paul:"Yesterday we drank tea at the Belevskys - it is cosy and beautiful at theirs. They've got themselves a monkey and amuse themselves like children." At that time nearly every day either the Grand Ducal pair visited the Belevskys or the Belevskys visited the GD. (e.g. 20 Dec "Belevskys dined and spent the evening - they are glowing"; 22 Dec "went for supper to Belevskys - all ours were there - nice and lovely - played with the monkey - drank tea") etc.

So it is quite clear that the Belevskys were very close and dear to GD Sergei and GDss Elizabeth.
I add here another picture of Count Belevsky that I do not think has been posted here yet:
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y499/akselbante/abd84f964ad1ae5eb2e73ff2189e60a7--alexandra-feodorovna-grand-duke_zpshbpidarv.jpg)

GD Konstantin Konstantinovich also wrote in his diary about what happened after GD Alexei Alexandrovich's death:
7th Jan 1909: "They found out from Fredericks that Alexei did not leave a will, but Shilling, who works for him, has got a draft of a letter that Alexei had written to his son, Count Belevsky, that he will get everything he has after his death. However, the lawful heirs Vladimir and Paul do not want to aknowledge this letter and want to get their share. Since the will was not written, the capital goes to the brothers and the children of the brothers who have died, namely, Vladimir, Paul, The Emperor and Misha. The Emperor, as usual, declines his share. I think the brothers could do better by declining their rights, since they know the will of the deceased."

In a way it is very sad... especially, in my mind, it is strange from GD Paul's side, since GD Sergei also only ever left a letter (by which most of his belongings went to Paul's children)... and in that case there being no official will was not a problem.


Sorry for the translations from Russian, they are mine... All materials taken from Великий Князь Сергей Александрович Романов. Биографические материалы and Романов Константин. Дневник великого князя 1907-1909 гг
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Post by: AdamPR on January 23, 2018, 06:37:29 PM
Did Nicholas ever form an opinion on Count Belevsky? Did they ever meet? IIRC, GD Alexei was Nicholas' favorite uncle, so I was curious if they ever crossed paths. Nicholas was only slightly older. GD Sergei was evidently quite fond of the Count.
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Post by: Kalafrana on January 24, 2018, 03:12:02 AM
Alexei Belevsky sounds an interesting fellow.

I know he died in the Gulag, but does anyone know what happened to his wife and children?

Ann
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Post by: Grandoffsky on January 24, 2018, 04:37:04 AM
Alexei Belevsky sounds an interesting fellow.

I know he died in the Gulag, but does anyone know what happened to his wife and children?

Ann

Yes, he does indeed. He was a scientist-biologist. When he became an officer, he was made GD Sergei's orderly (adjutant in 1904). From 1905 (I guess after the death of GD Sergei) til 1914 he lived in his own villa in Baden-Baden. He married again to Natalia Vladimirovna fon Shilling. Before WWI he was the master of horses in Imperial court. Stayed in Russia after the October revolution, when his children emigrated. From what I can find, he was shot in Tbilisi in 1932.

As Alexei's titles go - he was first made Baron Seggiano in San Marino on 24 March 1875, on 21 March 1884 he was made Count Belevsky in the Russian Empire and from 14 January 1913 he was made Count Belevsky-Zhukovsky. His daughters got the title Countess Belevsky, while his son was Count Belevsky-Zhukovsky.


I don't know whether his ex-wife emigrated or not (maybe someone else can help?), but she died 20 March 1954.

His daughter Elizabeth (b.1896 Russia - 1975 NJ, USA) married twice.
First to Petr Glinka-Perevozshikov (Петр Глинка-Перевозчиков 1872-1937, had a daughter Maria (1917 Odessa, Ukraine-1990 Grasse, France) and son Dmitri (1919 Rapallo, Italy-1960 Paris, France)) and second to Arthur-Vincent Lourié (1892, Belarus - 1966 Princeton, NJ, USA).

Maria married Lucien Teissier and had 2 children.
Dmitri married Maria (?), don't know if had any issue.

Alexei's 2nd daughter Alexandra (1899-1994) was married two times : first to Heinrich Lepp, second to Georgi Ivanovich Flevitzky (Георгий Иванович Флевицкий), had no issue.

Alexei's 3rd daughter Maria (1901Moscow -1996 Paris, France) married in 1922 Vladimir Sergeievich Sverbeev (Владимир Сергеевич Свербеев (1892-1951) and had a daughter Elisabeth (1923 Berlin, Germany-); and 2nd to Vladimir Alexandrovich Janushevski (Владимир Александрович Янушевский 1897 St. Petersburg, Russia - 1970 Paris, France).

Elisabeth Sverbeeva was married twice - to Alexander Guéorguiévitch Tarsaidze (1901 Tbilisi - 1978 NYC) and Charles Byron-Patrikiades (1919 Istanbul, Turkey - ). Don't know about issue.

Count Alexei's only son Count Sergei Alexeievich Belevsky-Zhukovsky (1903 (or 1904 - sources differ) Moscow, Russia - 1956 LA, USA) married Nina Sergeievna Botkine (1901 Berne, Switzerland - 1966 Lausanne, Switzerland) and had one daughter Elena (1929 Paris, France -). Elena was married twice. I only know that her first husband's surname was Mojaisky and they had 1 child. Her second husband's surname was Nieroth and they had 2 children.
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Post by: Grandoffsky on January 24, 2018, 05:52:02 AM
I don't know whether his ex-wife emigrated or not (maybe someone else can help?), but she died 20 March 1954.

Ok, so I did a bit more searching and it seems that Marusia did emigrate with her children (which is logical, since Sergei was only little) and ended up in France. If anyone would give me some proper sources for this info, I would be most thankful.

Also, I am somewhat interested in when the Belevskys actually got divorced. Most internet sources say 1904. However, there are notes in GD Sergei's diary from the beginning of 1905 telling about Belevskys visiting. So either they just stayed on really good terms after the divorce, or the divorce came later.
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Post by: Превед on January 24, 2018, 06:43:06 AM
In Russian the name is spelled Белёвский, so it should be pronounced Belyovskiy (stress on the second syllable), even though it's written Belevsky.
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Post by: Grandoffsky on January 24, 2018, 09:09:05 AM
In Russian the name is spelled Белёвский, so it should be pronounced Belyovskiy (stress on the second syllable), even though it's written Belevsky.

That is true. However, since it is usually written as Belevsky, I presume it's better to stick to it.

I've also dug up a bit more about the descendants of Count Sergei Alexeievich Belevsky-Zhukovsky, the only son of Count Alexei Belevsky-Zhukovsky. His daughter Elena's first husband was Nikolai Mojaiski. They got married in Paris in 1949. Their son Alexis was born in Paris in 1951. They got divorced in 1956 and the same year Elena married Count Kirill Mikhailovich Nieroth. Apparently, after this marriage Elena's son from the 1st marriage took the surname Mojaisky-Nieroth. Elena and Kirill had two other children - Count Peter Nieroth (b. 1957 in France) and Countess Elizabeth Nina Nieroth (b. 1966 in Houston, Texas, USA). Elena's son Alexis also moved to USA and had issue, his children taking the surname Nieroth.

And here is a lovely picture of Alexei Belevsky-Zhukovsky and his wife Maria.
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y499/akselbante/alexei%20and%20marusia_zpsz1urdslt.jpg)
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Post by: Kalafrana on January 24, 2018, 11:13:11 AM
He does look quite remarkably like Sergei Alexandrovich!

I wonder whether Sergei was godfather to Sergei Belevsky.

Ann
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Post by: Grandoffsky on January 24, 2018, 11:23:11 AM
He does look quite remarkably like Sergei Alexandrovich!

I wonder whether Sergei was godfather to Sergei Belevsky.

Ann

it is said that GD Sergei was Sergei's godfather and GDss Elizabeth was godmother to Alexei's daughter Elizabeth.
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Post by: Maria Sisi on January 24, 2018, 05:11:44 PM
He does look quite remarkably like Sergei Alexandrovich!

I wonder whether Sergei was godfather to Sergei Belevsky.

Ann

I've always found the physical appearance of Alexander II and Maria Alexandrovna's sons to be interesting. You had the ones that were big and stocky (Alexander III, Alexei and Vladimir) and then the others who were tall and thin (Nicholas, Sergei and Paul). There was no in between, they were either one or the other.