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Books and Films about the Romanovs and Imperial Russia => Books about the Romanovs and Imperial Russia => Topic started by: pablo on February 26, 2005, 02:55:57 PM

Title: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: pablo on February 26, 2005, 02:55:57 PM

  He wrote a book after revolution.
  Can anyone give me an information?

 Regards.
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: Marlene on February 26, 2005, 06:57:24 PM
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  He wrote a book after revolution.
   Can anyone give me an information?

  Regards.


I believe it was published only in Russian.
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: Eurohistory on February 26, 2005, 07:27:33 PM
And I believe, if I am not mistaken, Marlene that someone we both know was translating it to English.

Arturo Beéche
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: pablo on February 27, 2005, 01:28:11 PM


 Fine,the only English translation of which was lost in the bombing of American Embassy in Beirut,1984

  Regards.
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: Sarai on February 27, 2005, 01:30:16 PM
Pablo,
Gilbert's Royal Books is supposed to have the English version of these memoirs published this spring. I read that they provided a small publisher in Russia a grant in 2003 to publish the first English edition of these memoirs (which were previously published in only French and Russian), and Gilbert's will be the sole distributor of the English edition outside of Russia. The book will be called "Memories in the Marble Palace."
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: Marlene on February 27, 2005, 03:30:31 PM
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Pablo,
Gilbert's Royal Books is supposed to have the English version of these memoirs published this spring. I read that they provided a small publisher in Russia a grant in 2003 to publish the first English edition of these memoirs (which were previously published in only French and Russian), and Gilbert's will be the sole distributor of the English edition outside of Russia. The book will be called "Memories in the Marble Palace."


Did Gilbert secure copyright to the memoirs from Gabriel's estate?
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: Sarai on February 28, 2005, 09:50:47 AM
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Did Gilbert secure copyright to the memoirs from Gabriel's estate?


That I do not know.
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: Charles on March 02, 2005, 12:50:12 PM
I may be wrong, but...  The work becomes a part of the public domain 50 years after the death of the author.

Zakharov Publichations in Moscow has printed the book again in Russian.  If you speak Russian, Zakharov has a large set of excellent memoirs from the late Imperial period.
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: Marlene on March 02, 2005, 12:59:52 PM
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I may be wrong, but...  The work becomes a part of the public domain 50 years after the death of the author."

It depends on the year of creation (of the book) ... it is now at least 75 years beyond the life of the author."

Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: Macedonsky on March 02, 2005, 03:05:32 PM
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> The work becomes a part of the public domain
> 50 years after the death of the author.

It depends on the year of creation (of the book) ... it is now at least 75 years beyond the life of the author.

Not in Russia. Here is 50 years and 55 for WWII veterans.
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: Marlene on March 02, 2005, 04:01:10 PM
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Not in Russia. Here is 50 years and 55 for WWII veterans.



Not a very good law - in the west - copyright laws are much tighter and for longer extensions ... the US Congress will certainly pass another law in the next few years to extend copyright -things from the 1920s remain in copyright, for example.
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: Penny_Wilson on March 02, 2005, 06:52:51 PM
The copyright to GK's memoirs is very definitely still in existence and in the ownership of his survivors.  I asked them about a year ago.

So let me ask this:  If this book is considered in the public domain in Russia, but is still in copyright in the US, then can a book legally published in Russia be sold in the US without royalty payments being made to the copyright holders?

If it can be, then this is a shady practice, and I would think that no reputable publisher would take advantage of such a "loophole."
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: Marlene on March 02, 2005, 07:35:31 PM
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The copyright to GK's memoirs is very definitely still in existence and in the ownership of his survivors.  I asked them about a year ago.

So let me ask this:  If this book is considered in the public domain in Russia, but is still in copyright in the US, then can a book legally published in Russia be sold in the US without royalty payments being made to the copyright holders?

If it can be, then this is a shady practice, and I would think that no reputable publisher would take advantage of such a "loophole."



A grey area, Penny, that a copyright lawyer could answer better than I.    However, I believe that Russia has become a signatory to the Berne Convention - which is the major treaty for international copyright - -for example, a French author is accorded copyright protection in the US and vice versa.  (The Soviet Union had bad rep as a copyright pirate).  The minimum protection as allowed under the Berne convention is the life of the author plus 50 years.  This appears to be the Russian form, so in Russian, Gabriel's book is out of copyright .. but in the USA, UK, and elsewhere, the copyright is longer.
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: rudy3 on March 29, 2005, 05:56:07 AM
The first edition of the book appeared in 1955 in New York, in Russian (izdatelstvo imeni Chekhova). Second edition in 1993 "Logos", St. Petersburg and "Goluboj vsadnik" Dusseldorf. 288 p. Newest edition, Zaharov, Moscow.
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: newfan on November 16, 2009, 11:08:36 PM
Has anybody read his memoires?
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: Svetabel on November 17, 2009, 01:55:19 AM
Has anybody read his memoires?

Of course some of us read. I have a first Russian edition of the memoirs. Recently the Englsih version has been issued.

A must-reading for the Romanovs' fans.
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: Belochka on November 17, 2009, 03:20:01 AM
Has anybody read his memoires?

Of course some of us read. I have a first Russian edition of the memoirs. Recently the Englsih version has been issued.

A must-reading for the Romanovs' fans.

I agree Svetabel, although mine is the newer Zaharov edition, it does provide a slightly different perspective on family issues, which is where its real value lies.

Margarita
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: Teddy on November 17, 2009, 04:59:33 AM
Yes, I do.
Title: Re: GD Gavril Konstantinovich's memoirs
Post by: joye on April 17, 2010, 12:50:13 AM
Memories of the Marble Palace by Grand Duke Gabriel Constantinovich.Gilberts Royal Books.