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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Rulers Prior to Nicholas II => Topic started by: Svetabel on March 03, 2005, 08:42:04 AM
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From my 1st historical classes I have been fascinated by Alexander III as a character. As the Emperor. I read much books dedicated and related to him. It was always rather difficult to separate "a man" and "the Emperor"...But I am starting this thread just to express my vision of Alexander III with the help of the photos. The photos of himself and his family.
(I am mad about all photos of Royalties of the past... I believe that many of you all understand such a feeling! )
Alexander and 3 of his brothers as little boys
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/AlexBrothers.jpg)
Young Alexander
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/Alex.jpg)
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Alexander and his elder favorite brother Nikolay - Nixa - 1st fiancée of Dagmar of Denmark
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/AlexNixa.jpg)
His 1st great love - Princess Maria Elimovna Mescherskaya
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/MariaM.jpg)
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Newly-engaged Alexander and Dagmar (Minny)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/AlexMinny.jpg)
All the Romanovs in the end of the 1860s
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/Romanovs.jpg)
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Alexander in 1873
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/Alex1873.jpg)
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With his relatives in Denmark
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/AlexDanes.jpg)
The Emperor
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/Alex3.jpg)
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Hunting season in Spala
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/AlexSpala.jpg)
With his wife and son Georgiy
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/AlexMinnyGeorgiy.jpg)
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From my 1st historical classes I have been fascinated by Alexander III as a character. As the Emperor. I read much books dedicated and related to him. It was always rather difficult to separate "a man" and "the Emperor"...But I am starting this thread just to express my vision of Alexander III with the help of the photos. The photos of himself and his family.
(I am mad about all photos of Royalties of the past... I believe that many of you all understand such a feeling! )
Alexander and 3 of his brothers as little boys
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/AlexBrothers.jpg)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Sveta this one is incrediable. I think that is the earliest photo I have ever seen of all four of them. Nixa looks so cute. All the ones you posted of Sacha and family are so great. I hve never seen most of them. What a good idea, Thank you so much.
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Ok well here are some of my favorites of him. They could certainly never compare to Sveta's but.... Plus my scanner is horrid, sorry. Anyways here they are in order kinda.
As a boy with younger brother Vladimir looking very studious.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/PrinceEddy1864/Album%20Two/sachavlad.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/PrinceEddy1864/Album%20Two/sacha1.jpg)
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A little older
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/PrinceEddy1864/Album%20Two/sacha4.jpg)
With Vladimir again.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/PrinceEddy1864/Album%20Two/sacha2.jpg)
Standing right
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/PrinceEddy1864/Album%20Two/sacha3.jpg)
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Engaged.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/PrinceEddy1864/Album%20Two/sachaminny.jpg)
In Denmark with the in-laws.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/PrinceEddy1864/Album%20Two/sachaminny2.jpg)
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And finally Tsar.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/PrinceEddy1864/Album%20Two/sacha5.jpg)
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What a awesome thread! I enjoyed looking at AIII through these pictures! Kudos Guys! ;D
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Great thread!!!!!!!! i have never seen pictures of him as a young man. are there more pictures of him and his brothers and parents especailly Sergei. i read somewhere that he alwas sought out Sergei for advice and confort. mostly i remember Sergei being moe close to K.R. can any one help me.
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With Vladimir again.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/PrinceEddy1864/Album%20Two/sacha2.jpg)
LOL!!! Vladmir is like WHATZZ UP!! ;D :D
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Ok well here are some of my favorites of him. They could certainly never compare to Sveta's but.... Plus my scanner is horrid, sorry. Anyways here they are in order kinda.
Oh,Alison...Your pictures are great as well! I always enjoy all the photos you post. :) :)
Now some more pictures of Alexander
With his wife and her sister Alexandra in Gatchina
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/dagmaralex3alexGat4ina.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/dagmaralex3alexGat4ina1.jpg)
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And 4 young fellows
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/altenbyrgalexvladnikleucht-.jpg)
Prince Albert of Altenburg, Alexander itself, his brother Vladimir and Prince Nikolay of Leuchtenberg
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/altenbyrgalexvladnikleucht.jpg)
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Romanoffs"[/url] site you can find some more photos about Alexander III, Nicholas II and family.
i was trying to go to the site but it is in Russian can anyone help in finding the pictures.
are there any pictures of AIII and his other brothers in later life?
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Does anyone have this one larger?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/otmafan/weirversion.jpg)
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Thanks for all the pictures. I especially enjoyed seeing the ones with him smiling and having fun!
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Wonderful! ;D
I loved the engagment pictures of him and Dagmar/Marie
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Thank you for this wonderfull tour!
At the beginning, I didn't see so many ressemblances between Alexander and his son Nicholas, but now I saw a lot of pictures of the young Alexander, I can clearly see a resemblance between father and son, especially when Alexander was smiling, in his youth...
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All the Romanovs in the end of the 1860s
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/Romanovs.jpg)
Can someone I.D this picture please? Its a really great picture but I can only recognize Alexander II.
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Alexander II is holding his son Pavel. His other son Sergei stands behind his right shoulder. To Sergei's right are Tsesarevich Aleksandr and his wife Maria Feodorovna; continuing in that right direction are Vladimir and Aleksei Aleksandrovichi and their sister Maria Aleksandrovna. In front of these siblings is Empress Maria Aleksandrovna. To her right is GD Maria Nikolaevna and her family, the Leucthenbergs. In front of her is GD Aleksandra Iosifovna holding her son Viacheslav. Not sure if that is GD Olga with Konstantin and Dmitrii to AI's right.
Behind the Emperor's left shoulder is GD Nikolai Nikolaevich (the elder), Prince Petr Georgievich of Oldenburg, GD Mikhail Nikolaevich with his son GD Nikolai, GD Konstantin Nikolaevich with his son GD Nikolai. GD Elena Pavlovna is very easily recognizable sitting on the right hand side, in front of the piano, with her left hand supporting her head.
From here it gets very difficult for me to tell who is who... Certainly GD Olga Nikolaevna, the Queen of Wurttemburg, and her family are among those near GD Elena. The younger Nikolaevichi and Mikhailovich are with their mothers also in this part of the painting. GD Ekaterina Mikhailovna and her family, the Meckleburg-Strelitz are in this part. The Oldenburgs are certainly somewhere here as well.
I have seen this in a few books and have always been intrigued if it still exists; I have never seen it in a museum in Russia and not even sure who painted it. In one of my books somewhere there is a table identifying who is who. I just can't remember which one and while I am at work now (please don't tell my boss), I will only be able to fill in the gaps later.
Would be curious if anyone else has thoughts on who is who.
Charles
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Does anyone have a wedding photo of Alex and Minnie?
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Fantastic pictures, Svetabel
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(I am mad about all photos of Royalties of the past... I believe that many of you all understand such a feeling! )
I understand it completely!!! And I am totally grateful to those people who post such photos! Love ya :-*
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i LOVED those pictures!
especially the ones where alexander was laughing
amazing :)
most of the pics i'd seen of him showed a different side of him
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i LOVED those pictures!
especially the ones where alexander was laughing
amazing :)
most of the pics i'd seen of him showed a different side of him
Yeah, the pics are really amazing! They displays just young guys, not Princes or Grand Dukes...just fellows who love to have fun :D
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Nikolaj and Alexander, 1861
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2568/oaf00505xn.th.jpg) (http://img32.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf00505xn.jpg)
Grand Duke Alexander Alexandrowitsch
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4100/oaf00624tm.th.jpg) (http://img32.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf00624tm.jpg)
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Alexander and Dagmar
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6486/oaf00610wz.th.jpg) (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf00610wz.jpg)
Alexander III. at hunter
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7584/oaf00937yb.th.jpg) (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf00937yb.jpg)
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Alexander and Maria
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9797/oaf00928rk.th.jpg) (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf00928rk.jpg)
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The Imperial Family and others after hunter
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/189/oaf543mz.th.jpg) (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf543mz.jpg)
Another one
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/705/oaf604wl.th.jpg) (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf604wl.jpg)
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(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6052/alexiiia11pg8366tt.th.jpg) (http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alexiiia11pg8366tt.jpg)
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A GAREAT IDEA FOR A TOPIC! I Love that shows the Many layers of Alexander not only "The Tsar" but also "the man"
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1865:
(http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/827/75rx.th.jpg) (http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=75rx.jpg)
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One of my favorites of the young Tsarevitch Alexander, taken in London in the 1860s.
(http://cheddarbay.com/0000Romanov/tsarevitchalexander_london1860s.jpg)
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IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Markhall
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Markhall/Alex.jpg)
Some new stamps issued for the Emp. Alex. III.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Markhall/Alex-1.jpg)
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What beautiful stamps! I was wondering if Alexander III is the only Romanov to be featured on recent stamps. With the return of the Dowager Empress to Russia in September, I thought there might also be a stamp of her in the works. Thank you for posting these!!!
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Does anyone have this one larger?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/otmafan/weirversion.jpg)
Here you are!
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/th_MFChildren-31888.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/MFChildren-31888.jpg)
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My all-time favorite:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/th_Favorite.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/Favorite.jpg)
And more!
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/th_alexanderiii.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/alexanderiii.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/th_profile.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/profile.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/th_AleksanderIII1893.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/AleksanderIII1893.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/th_sachavlad.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/sachavlad.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/th_AIIIMF-7.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/AIIIMF-7.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/th_alixminnyandsasha.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/alixminnyandsasha.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/th_Family-2.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/Family-2.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/th_Family-1.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/Family-1.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/th_Family.png) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/Family.png)
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Does anyone have the photo from this sitting in which Ksenia is sitting on AIII's knee with her back against her father's chest and her foot dangling below his knee?
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/th_Family-1.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/Family-1.jpg)
It's one of my favorites, but I don't seem to have it.
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Does anyone have the photo from this sitting in which Ksenia is sitting on AIII's knee with her back against her father's chest and her foot dangling below his knee?
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/th_Family-1.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/Family-1.jpg)
It's one of my favorites, but I don't seem to have it.
This one?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/fama3.jpg)
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Alexander III on board of Polar Star
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/alpolarstar.jpg)
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That's exactly the one I was looking for -- thanks!
And the one on Polar Star was new to me, too. 8)
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(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/th_AleksanderIII1893.jpg) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/sarahelizabethii/Romanov/AIII/AleksanderIII1893.jpg)
And from the same event, with his wife
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/mag.jpg)
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In St. Petersburg, i think that it´s in the court yard of the Marble Palace, there is a fabulous satatue of Alexander III riding a horse. The figure of the Tzar impressed me, he looks so strong and powerfull.
The poor horse seems to be crashed because of the weight of the enormous Tzar.
Has anyone have pickes of this statue???
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In St. Petersburg, i think that it´s in the court yard of the Marble Palace, there is a fabulous satatue of Alexander III riding a horse. The figure of the Tzar impressed me, he looks so strong and powerfull.
The poor horse seems to be crashed because of the weight of the enormous Tzar.
Has anyone have pickes of this statue???
Here is a thread
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php/topic,7365.0.html (http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php/topic,7365.0.html)
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Alexander III and his family in Gatchina
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/a3f.jpg)
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3 children of Alexander III - Mikhail, Xenia,Olga
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Alex3/xmo.jpg)
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Does anyone know what the LAST photo of Aleksandr III and his ENTIRE family (Minny, Nicky, Georgii, Ksenia, Misha & Olga) would have been?
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Thank you so much Svetabel for your answer to my question about the statue of Alexander III.
As you lives in ST.Petersburg...., do you know if there is going to be any special exibition about Maria Feodorovna in September?? Thanks in advance
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As you lives in ST.Petersburg...., do you know if there is going to be any special exibition about Maria Feodorovna in September?? Thanks in advance
Of course there is an exceptional exhibition here in St Pt. :) - "Emperor Alexander III amd Empress Maria Fedorovna". I've been there recently. Fantastic items one can see! :o Rare pictures, photos,portraits, dresses of Mf and uniforms of the Emperor, books, statues, coronation chair of Alexander III and so on...The catalogue is a fat incredible book about 420 pages, so pity it does not contain all the items (esp. photos ) from the exhibition.
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Does anyone know what the LAST photo of Aleksandr III and his ENTIRE family (Minny, Nicky, Georgii, Ksenia, Misha & Olga) would have been?
Interesting question :-\. Well, I'll try to find something on the subject.
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The catalogue is a fat incredible book about 420 pages, so pity it does not contain all the items (esp. photos ) from the exhibition.
Ooh, sounds yummy! Do you know how we in North America could get hold of a copy?
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The catalogue is a fat incredible book about 420 pages, so pity it does not contain all the items (esp. photos ) from the exhibition.
Ooh, sounds yummy! Do you know how we in North America could get hold of a copy?
i don't think the catalogue is available at the bookstores right now :-\
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what about a website about the exhibition?
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what about a website about the exhibition?
only in Russian. :(
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Sveta can you post the link? ::)
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Sveta can you post the link? ::)
Of course http://www.manege.spb.ru/ru/Alexandr&Marie.html (http://www.manege.spb.ru/ru/Alexandr&Marie.html)
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Here Alexander III, his wife,children and brother GD Alexey are in front of Maliy Dvorets (Palace) in Livadia.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/MalyLivadiafamilywithGDA.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/MalyLivadiafamilywithGDA.jpg)
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In St. Petersburg, i think that it´s in the court yard of the Marble Palace, there is a fabulous satatue of Alexander III riding a horse. The figure of the Tzar impressed me, he looks so strong and powerfull.
The poor horse seems to be crashed because of the weight of the enormous Tzar.
Has anyone have pickes of this statue???
I've seen photos of the statue & it reminds me of a photo of President William H. Taft on a horse!
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On a very very old thread, I asked about this statue and Helen and someone else provided photos and some background on this statue.
If I can find it, I'll bring it here.
AGRBear
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What a fantastic thread! It's amazing to see pictures of him in his youth, smiling and having fun as we are used to heard of him only about his serious side...
Does anyone know about his size and weight? (in metre if it's possible...)
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He was around 190cm from memory. That is over 6 feet tall in imperial.
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Neat Photos! Alexander III was not bad looking in his youth but I find him too stern and grumpy. I bet he was quite intimindating for those who had to meet him!
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these pictures are beautiful and some of them are rare to me, thank you for posting them
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yes, no one have posted photographs of Alexander for long time. its great to see him younger as they are very interesting it is a side not often seen i feel? anyone agree?
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I certainly agree. He is remembered mainly as the stern authoritarian that he became as Tsar. To see him as a carefree young man does show a completely different side of his personality. I also love the portraits of him playing with his youngest children.
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(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/th_50386.jpg) (http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/50386.jpg)(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/th_Alexandr3.jpg) (http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/Alexandr3.jpg)
If I may add some......
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Imperial family in Helsinki 1885.
http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/anttijokinen/scan0002-1.jpg
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This one shows him sitting in the chair where he died, Minnie is with him.
Does anyone else think he looks like Lenin in this painting, or is that just me??
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This one shows him sitting in the chair where he died, Minnie is with him.
Does anyone else think he looks like Lenin in this painting, or is that just me??
Never though that. Though now after your words I indeed can see a slight resemblance in the upper part of the face.
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Imperial Family (http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/RA9-223.jpg).
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Tsar Alexander III:
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/big5969981113218964.jpg)
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Are there any existing photographs of Alexander III and Alix together (within a family group setting)?
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Are there any existing photographs of Alexander III and Alix together (within a family group setting)?
I don`t think there is.
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I agree with Jebediah.
Alexander III:
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/th_RA9-218.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/?action=view¤t=RA9-218.jpg)
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(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Alexander20III.jpg)
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I think last one was retouched. But I am not certain. It looks like he was copied and pasted in it. Thanks Ally!
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That´s possible.... Perhpas the original image was so bad they retouched it.... It was taken at Tsar´ s hunting lodge at Belovezha.
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With Vladimir again.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/PrinceEddy1864/Album%20Two/sacha2.jpg)
Standing right
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/PrinceEddy1864/Album%20Two/sacha3.jpg)
I adore these photo's. There so much fun, just to look at.
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I think last one was retouched. But I am not certain. It looks like he was copied and pasted in it. Thanks Ally!
I think you're right -- the tsar has no shadow! (Nor does anything else.)
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(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/Photo/Royalities_at_Lyngby2C_near_Copenha.jpg)
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I know it´s a post mark Elly. Don´t underestimate me :) Your new banner is the most beautiful one so far.
Alexandre - those are hilarious. Pity they´re not of better quality.
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I know it´s a post mark Elly. Don´t underestimate me :) Your new banner is the most beautiful one so far.
Xax because you said picture... i never thought to underestimate you or somebody else :) Thank you very much :)
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Well, it is a picture isn´t it :) ? but let´s no longer talk about it...
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It is actually portrait made with photoshop with the russian flag... for the mark....
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(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/th_1856.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/1856.jpg)
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/th_1248.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/1248.jpg)
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/th_1250.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/1250.jpg)
With Minnie
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/th_1263.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/1263.jpg)
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Fantastic!
As a boy:
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/th_VKA-5.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/?action=view¤t=VKA-5.jpg)
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Picture posted by Fabian in "realeza" boards. Sasha as a kid with brother Vladimir
(http://i44.tinypic.com/4j83e9.jpg)
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Great one Katenka! For some reason I really do like Sasha.
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Family meeting
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/th_big_pre1206620121.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/big_pre1206620121.jpg)
Alexander formal picture
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/th_small_pre1206619414.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/small_pre1206619414.jpg)
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Love your ones.
With family:
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/th_Aleks3121.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/?action=view¤t=Aleks3121.jpg)
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Sasha and Minnie
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2uzqzuu.jpg)
portrait
(http://i40.tinypic.com/9zv91h.jpg)
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I love the on of Sasha and Minnie
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Where was the family gathering picture taken?
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Where was the family gathering picture taken?
In Denmark, in Amalienborg I think.
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(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/Maria%20F/3271.jpg)
Provenance: Maria F.
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Very young Sasha
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/th_img_2_26_0_0.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/img_2_26_0_0.jpg)
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How nice!! he had cleft chin! *0*
Thanks so much for posting that pic, Ally, Its Complety New for me!
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Little bit bigger?
(http://s61.radikal.ru/i174/0902/f4/53f5f5f30649t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s61.radikal.ru/i174/0902/f4/53f5f5f30649.jpg.html)
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Yes, but unfortunatelly slightly deformed....
Katenka . seems like we have similar taste for men :)
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Im crazy about Cleft chins *0*
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(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/th_aleksand_3_b.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/aleksand_3_b.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/th_dvorzov11.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/dvorzov11.jpg)
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Are these same one, or I don't see right? The first one deserve to be posted in 'Imperial icons' thread.
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This one scares me to death..he looks so creepy!
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk70/Stella_sabata/tsal3b.jpg)
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Are these same one, or I don't see right? The first one deserve to be posted in 'Imperial icons' thread.
Well, I didn´t post it there because Alexander III. is not a saint...
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Are these same one, or I don't see right? The first one deserve to be posted in 'Imperial icons' thread.
Well, I didn´t post it there because Alexander III. is not a saint...
You are right, Alexander III is not a saint, I wonder why is the halo around his head in that portrait.
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(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/prod_8028.jpg)
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(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/th_fam2.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/?action=view¤t=fam2.jpg)
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Ah yes exactly that one
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Question!. In what year that picture was taken?. Thanks in advanced!
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I think 1891, not sure. Correct me if I am wrong, please!
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I don't know, but I have total confidence in your knowledge for dates, so I suppose that you are right. ;-)
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I think 1891, not sure. Correct me if I am wrong, please!
Yes i guess you are correct...In What occasion is taken?
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The pictures was taken in 1982 according to Charlotte Zeepvat book.
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I believe you meant 1892 but we were close...Thanks
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Oh!!! Yes, I'm sorry, I meant 1892! Thank you!
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Thanks you all for the info! =D
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Young Sasha with his brother Vladimir and cousins:
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8271/cousinsleuchtenberg.jpg)
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Wow!! Great picture!!
Where did you find it?
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I am sorry for replying so late, Veronica. That picture [and many others] are from Russian State Film and Photo Archive in Krasnogorsk.
I have some more of GD Alexander Alexandrovich
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2752/gdalexander2.jpg)
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9690/gdalexander4.jpg)
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5239/gdalexander3.jpg)
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Those are superb! I don´t know where you´ve got the images from , but I selfishly hope there are more :)
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Oh yes!, these photos of young Alexander are wonderful! :)
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Wow, I agree, wonderful!
Same day, I'd guess:
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/th_VKA-5.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/?action=view¤t=VKA-5.jpg)
Correct, RF4E, thanks for correction! ;-)
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Yes, I think that this photo was taken in the same day of the third photo that Aglaya posted...it's a very beautiful photo session! :)
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No, wait...I have noticed some differences: the chair is not the same and in the first photo Alexander have a sword...
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Still can be the same day, just with different artifacts.
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You are right...
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Very pronounced resemblance to Nicholas II in those photos.
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Yes, it's true...
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(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/356/1888alexiii.jpg)
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6057/alexiii.jpg)
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(http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/45022/2427028590101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2427028590101857556nlIjQb)
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Great photo! :)
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Yes, I like it! :)
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Alexander with Minnie and sons in Finland:
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6349/tsaariperekondhpsshm147.jpg)
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Aglaya, do you have a bigger version of that picture?
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No, unfortunately I don't.
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(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7540/leuchtenberg3.jpg)
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There is "Russian Imperial Medals, Orders, Uniforms & Militaria" board, but don't worry...this is one of Alexander III's uniforms and so I think that this is the right place too. ;) :)
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I love it! Could anybody identify the other young men?
Alexander is with his brother Vladimir and his Leuchtenberg cousins, Nicholas and Eugen I think.
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7540/leuchtenberg3.jpg)
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Alexander is with his brother Vladimir and his Leuchtenberg cousins, Nicholas and Eugen I think.
No, the Leuctenberg cousin is only one there , Nikolai. The other is Prince Albert of Saxe-Altenburg. Their another group-shots you can see at the first pages of this thread.
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Alexander III
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/th_DJGE6CA1Q26C4CA7PLWGRCA3QJ41DCA1Q61.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/DJGE6CA1Q26C4CA7PLWGRCA3QJ41DCA1Q61.jpg)
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/th_JKXBTCAUFC2YICART9DFFCAGGGN9ECAGC5D.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/JKXBTCAUFC2YICART9DFFCAGGGN9ECAGC5D.jpg)
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With
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/th_asdf.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/asdf.jpg)
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/th_ggew.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/ggew.jpg)
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This one is certainly one of my favourites
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/th_saadas.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/various/saadas.jpg)
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Alexander III in Finland
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6810/langinkoski.jpg)
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(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3444/alexiiit.jpg)
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(http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/31210/2108959580101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2108959580101857556pEWvMY)
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With one of his brothers
I think it's Vladimir. Great ones!
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It is indeed Vladimir. Thanks so much for those pics, Ally, They re all new for me!
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Arre there any sketches of Alexander III's state funeral or him lying in state? I saw some in a book called Tsar but I can't find any on my own.
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(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3496/funeralofalexanderiii18.jpg)
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If you find that creepy, you havent seen some Post mortem pictures around the web!! xD. At least they didnt open his eyes,put stitiches on them to keep em wide open and posed him as he was alive! (Yup..there are THAT kind of Pm Pictures :-S)
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You're right...since I'm easily impressionable when I can, I avoid to see post mortem photos, this kind of things make me sad.
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i have a morbid fascination for them, in fact, i have a small collection, but, i dont like when they re kids involved, as a mother, that breaks my heart :-(
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Agree with you... :(, I'm emotive and I can't see these things, that breaks my heart too.
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Sorry for the size...
(http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/42284/2692328480101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2692328480101857556WzUmQo)
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Alexander III. and his family at Livadia 1893
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/royalty/th_32131918.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/royalty/32131918.jpg)
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Young man Sasha
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/royalty/B861EW.jpg)
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I always liked Alamy it has amazing photos....
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Alexander and Maria Feodorovna at Spala
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3307/alek.jpg)
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Aloha all!
I have such affection for the Romanovs and understand that it was indeed "a different time" - but these pictures of Alexander III and also the ones of Nicholas II with dead animals strewn around them as "trophies" - makes my stomach turn.
I especially dislike the ones of Nicholas at Spala with numerous dead elk (?) stewn around the front lawn with flowers tucked around the slain animals - those are horrendous!
Janet R.
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I have to agree with you, since I love animals with all my heart...unfortunately as you have correctly said, it was a "different time", they believed that this was "normal". :(
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He is indeed Alexander III, but in this photo he looks very similar to his brother Alexei...
(http://inlinethumb10.webshots.com/44681/2305993530101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2305993530101857556oXIbSb)
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Can someone post the sketch of the interment of Alexander III at the Cathedral of Peter and Paul in St. Petersburg its by the London Illustrated Private Collection, I saw it in the book the Lost world of NIcholas & Alexandra?
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Do you mean the sketch that is on page 49 of "Tsar: the lost world of Nicholas and Alexandra" by Peter Kurth?...
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Yes...that would be the one.
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Young and quite handsome I must say
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Romanovs/80155945.jpg)
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Romanovs/80155946.jpg)
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Sasha
(http://img190.imagevenue.com/loc945/th_65301_4BU64qnQBmk763KGrHgoH-DUEjlLlzqhLBKP8Cr3m5w90_3_122_945lo.JPG) (http://img190.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=65301_4BU64qnQBmk763KGrHgoH-DUEjlLlzqhLBKP8Cr3m5w90_3_122_945lo.JPG)
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Sorry for the small size.
(http://inlinethumb07.webshots.com/44678/2520670880101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2520670880101857556tJoCIC)
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(http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/35909/2966722270101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2966722270101857556SfxVha)
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Reply #260
Thank you so much it's wonderful
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Minnie looks absolutely wonderful!
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Yes she does! i d love to see the dress!
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Wonderful picture of Dagmar! I'd love to see her from head to toes in that outfit
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Here, I think it's from the same session, the top of the dress and the hairdo looks the same:
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8381/dagmar179.jpg)
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Good eye, Veronica!! its from the same session indeed ;-)
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Which year is the session? I think it's in the early years of their marrige...Or before it?
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Which year is the session? I think it's in the early years of their marrige...Or before it?
The photo had been discussed in other threads. That's 1868 and MF is pregnant with Nicholas.
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I haven't see the discussion but thank you!
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(http://inlinethumb54.webshots.com/42165/2110196090101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2110196090101857556dketbQ)
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A photo of Tsar Alexander III by the photographer Charles (Karl) Bergamasco, from The Russian State Library, Moscow.
http://photo.fine-art-images.net/en/zoom.php?40
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Alexander III and MF in Spala:
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8195/spala8.jpg)
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(http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/45483/2730439360101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2730439360101857556HpvkqP)
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WOW this is very new to me.....
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HERE (http://i26.tinypic.com/f5cfaq.jpg) in "highest" resolution and quality if someone wants to colorize it ;-)
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Alexander III with his youngest children:
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6632/aleks3171.png)
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I´d just love to see this one bigger...
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/Romanovs/bogo1_mon.jpg)
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(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9025/alezdjecie.jpg)
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(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1336/620303.jpg)
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A Leuchtenberg cousin maybe?
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that´s what I thought, however I´m not very familiar with Leuchtenbergs...
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A Leuchtenberg cousin maybe?
He doesn't resemble a Leuchtenberg. Most probably a friend from a noble family.
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(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/Maria%20F/alexchrdag.jpg)
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(http://i41.tinypic.com/20fsu2u.jpg)
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"Artsy" image of Alexander
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2j192z7.jpg)
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Thanks for posting Katy! I love the victorian photos of backs!!
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me too!^^
Teen Alexander and Eugenie Leuchtenberg
(http://i46.tinypic.com/123uz5i.jpg)
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2 more of Eugenie-Alexander. 1862 year.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/1862-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/54.jpg)
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(http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/6929/3294680.jpg)
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1894 Grand Duke Michael & Alexander III by the walls of an ice fortress at Gatchina
(http://inlinethumb23.webshots.com/3670/2369044250102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2369044250102753164SIFXyJ)
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I believe the person on the right the childrens tutor Hirsch.
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I believe the person on the right the childrens tutor Hirsch.
It's Charles Heath, and on the left - Michael's tutor Ferdinand Thormeyer.
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Thanks for the correction Olgasha :)
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1894 Grand Duke Michael & Alexander III by the walls of an ice fortress at Gatchina
I love this one! He looks very relaxed, doing plain things. By the looks and uniforms you can't see who is Tsar and who is teacher.
1894? I can't see he was ill. He looks very healthy to me..
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1894? I can't see he was ill. He looks very healthy to me..
I would say it's rather 1892 or 1893. Misha still has a childish look here. He was 16 when his father died, and here he just looks a little younger.
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Aleksander III, MF, Ksenia and doggies
(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4307/ne-nai.69/0_33e9b_e39ff643_-1-L.jpg)
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Picnic in the woods,(picture taken most probably in Poland)
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7338/piknik0341864b14dbf31xl.jpg)
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(http://www.picatom.com/1l/Princess%20Marie_relatives-1-th.jpg) (http://www.picatom.com/1l/Princess%20Marie_relatives-1.html)
One of the merry vactions in Denmark
Form l. to r.: Prss Marie of Greece, Tsarevitch Nicholas,Prss Maud of Wales, Prince waldemar of Denmark, Emperor Alexander III, Prss Victoria of Wales.
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Sailing away
(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8031/s640x4803.jpg) (http://img827.imageshack.us/i/s640x4803.jpg/)
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Aleksander III with Maria Feodorovna
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2111/saszkamaria1.jpg)
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Aleksander III (on the left on the balcon) with officers in 1878
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_4cMlS-z6BVc/Skx4cHL8CjI/AAAAAAAAL04/OU-GFgUtY-A/s800/%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F-111.jpg)
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Aleksander as a boy, with younger brother Vladimir
(http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/1009/7e/1bcbc66009f7.jpg)
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Hi Olgasha,
Do you by any chance know when the photograph you kindly posted of Alexander and Vladimir was taken?
Thanks in advance,
Margarita
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Alexander in his llast days. He looked very sick
(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/2952/aetret.jpg) (http://img715.imageshack.us/i/aetret.jpg/)
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A very sad image :( :(
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(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/9070/alex3parkn.jpg)
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(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/7714/n2501g.jpg)
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(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/443/p1010417.jpg)
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Aleksander III with his daughter Ksenia and Princess Victoria of UK
(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3408/0491af33145421xl.jpg)
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a somewhat repaired version...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/Douglas606/alexander3.jpg)
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Favorite
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3859/hfrfhgkhgkdfhg.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/hfrfhgkhgkdfhg.jpg/)
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Are there any photos of AIII with GD Olga Alexandrovna? Just her? Or at least, just her and Mikhail?
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I went through my collection and this is the only one I could find
(http://nd03.jxs.cz/945/846/569bf87b56_57866640_u.jpg)
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Are there any photos of AIII with GD Olga Alexandrovna? Just her? Or at least, just her and Mikhail?
Aleksander with Olga and Misha
(http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/7665/alex3playingolgamisha.jpg)
and one more
(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9497/532c33c126a5f477.jpg)
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Hi,
What a wonderful picture of Olga and her father!!
Both are happy and clearly enjoying the moment and each other.
Larry
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(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5123/ok13.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/ok13.jpg/) Alexander III in Finland
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[](http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s477/chrishiggins1980/Picture.jpg)
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from jacques Ferrand's Romanoff un album de famille
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(http://nd06.jxs.cz/037/501/f9a52aedac_92333373_o2.png)
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Hi all, I'm posting to this topic because of the earlier knowledgeable contributors on pictures of Alexander III.
Hopefully many of you are still around and pick up on this and help me with advice on the primary source(s) of the cameo image below of Tsarevich Alexander.
If Admin/Moderators think I'm in the wrong place with this query, please advise.
I have also posted to the 'Imperial Family Jewels" thread to discuss this as a jewellery item here:
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=567.msg531164#new
So my questions to the forum relate to the existence of left side profiles of Tsarevich Alexander in his late teens / early 20's.
I'm talking about a full left profile like the cameo image below.
I've been unable to find one, does anyone know of such an image and are to able to show one?
I'm also interested in comments on my analysis / identification process below. This is a work in progress, so may spread over a couple of posts.
So first the image, then some context, then I'll start describing the identification process:
(http://www.theholygrail.com/images/Cameo_Portrait.jpg)
The future Tsar Alexander III was born 10 March 1845, with the title Grand Duke Alexander Alexandrovich. He became Tsarevich Alexander Alexandrovich on the sudden death of his older brother Nicholas on 24 April 1865. On his deathbed Nicholas expressed the wish that Alexander marry Nicholas' fiancé, Princess Dagmar of Denmark.
Dagmar accepted Alexander's proposal and they married 9 November 1866 in the Imperial Chapel of the Winter Palace in St. Petersburg. Dagmar converted to Orthodox Christianity and took the name Maria Feodorovna.
The following year Tsarevich Alexander travelled with his father Tsar Alexander II to the Paris International Exposition of 1867 (Exposition Universelle d'Art et d'Industrie), at the invitation of Napoleon III.
Tsarevich Alexander was in the carriage with Alexander II and Napoleon III on 6 June 1867 when an assassination attempt on the Tsar occurred after a military review at Longchamp. The Tsarevitch also attended the famous "Three Emperors Dinner" at Café Anglais in Paris on 7 June 1867, the three emperors present being Emperor Napoleon III, Tsar Alexander II, and King Wilhelm I of Prussia.
This cameo portrait of Tsarevitch Alexander was carved by Paul Lebas around 1866-1867. It was probably intended for the Paris Exposition, in hope of attracting the attention of the Russian Royal visitors.
Lebas was patronised by Napoleon III, having carved a cameo of Empress Eugenie in 1855. In 1865 Lebas also prepared the cameo of their son the Prince Imperial (now in The Met, NY). So there is also the possibility Napoleon III recommended Lebas to the Tsarevitch for a sitting in Paris, or that Napoleon III commissioned the cameo as gift to the Russian Royals. Given the timeframe, one has to wonder if this was a wedding portrait, and if there was a matching cameo of Maria Feodorovna.
Paul-Victor LEBAS was a prominent C19th cameo sculptor in Paris, at 19 Rue Guenegaud. He was active 1851-1876.
Lebas exhibited at the Paris Salons and worked with the jewellers Caillot & Peck, specialists in cameo settings.
Around 1851 Lebas carved the famous cameo of the young Queen Victoria for Felix Dafrique. This cameo was based on the portrait by Thomas Sully, painted in 1838 when Queen Victoria was 19 years old. The cameo is now in the Victoria and Albert Museum.
The image of the Tsarevich will be circa 1866, and may be based on photos or a portrait around the time of his wedding.
In his other works, such as the cameo of Queen Victoria, Lebas didn't slavishly follow an original portrait. He was known to reverse the original image, and his cameos have a tendency to idealise the subject, perhaps with a view to capture the essence of their personality in such a minute medium.
The two colour onyx cameo is scratch signed on the obverse "PL" for Paul Lebas. It is set in a fine 18ct gold mount with both brooch and pendant fixtures. The brooch pin and clasp are stamped with the 'eagle's head' French control marks for 18ct gold. Although it doesn't have their hallmark, the mount is almost certainly by Caillot & Peck.
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The Identification Process
When I acquired this piece recently and identified the date range of the artist Paul Lebas I began looking at pictures of prominent people in the date range 1850-1875.
Quite early I was struck by similarities to the young Tsar Nicholas II, but of course the dates were wrong. Then I looked at his father Alexander III.
Alexander III as Tsesarevich around the time of his wedding to Princess Dagmar (1866) had the right hairline and facial profile, although very soon after his hair rapidly receded and he put on a lot of weight.
Then I discovered Tsesarevich Alexander was in Paris in 1867 and could have been introduced to the cameo sculptor Paul Lebas by Napoleon III.
The problem was finding an appropriate image left profile of Tsesarevich Alexander 1866/67 to compare, I haven't found one yet.
Wikiipedia says Alexander had a A sebaceous cyst on the left side of his nose ... and he sat for photographs and portraits with the right side of his face most prominent. However I found several pictures of Tsesarevich Alexander showing his left side (but not in full profile) without any sign of the cyst.
I seems to me if you examine pictures of Tsesarevich Alexander's face in his late teens / Early 20's, the left and right sides are somewhat different. Later in life as his face blew up like a balloon that difference is less pronounced.
The identification problem was compounded by the fact that the cameo artist surely "idealised" his subject for artistic effect and to enhance the possibility of a sale.
This thread has been a fantastic source of images including the one I've used below by OAF (thank you OAF).
Note also the images of Tsesarevich Alexander wearing the same wing collar to the cameo in his marriage pictures.
Anyway the first identification method was to take a forward looking shot of the cameo. This gave me something to compare with forward facing pics. Here's the result:
(http://www.theholygrail.com/images/Double-HeadTsarevich-by-OAJ-v2.jpg)
One problem is the cameo is very "flat". So to achieve a valid comparison with the montage image in (3) above, I first flattened the left side (only) of his face as per images (2) and (4). I did this simply by cutting the left side face from image (1) and narrowing the image in Photoshop to the same size as the left side cameo width as shown in image (3).
Hope that makes sense, and I did NO other Photoshop-ing to make the images match (beyond adjusting the lighting of the cameo).
I hope you look at images (2) & (3) above and see the same face looking out at you.
Here's a link to the side image of the cameo for reference purposes:
http://www.theholygrail.com/images/Cameo_side.jpg (http://www.theholygrail.com/images/Cameo_side.jpg)
I have found some other ways to compare the cameo with images of Alexander, and will post more in my next.
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Hi All,
I realise I'm posting to a dead thread, however I'll complete the identification process posting and then might start a new thread with this same info.
(http://www.theholygrail.com/images/TsarevichAlexander-Brow.jpg)
Alexander III had a prominent brow and forehead, shown somewhat exaggerated in the colourised picture on the right.
This provided the first clue to the identification of the Lebas cameo portrait as Tsesarevich Alexander.
The cameo portrait has the same ridged brow and prominent forehead, shown aligned above by the red lines in the left and centre pictures above.
There are no known left profile pictures of Tsesarevich Alexander that allow a direct comparison with the cameo.
However while the white onyx layer of the cameo portrait is only about 4mm deep, it is so finely detailed that a forward facing photo of the cameo can be taken as below.
(Here's a link to that source side view of the cameo for reference purposes: http://www.theholygrail.com/images/Lebas-Cameo-TsarevichAlexander-side.jpg (http://www.theholygrail.com/images/Lebas-Cameo-TsarevichAlexander-side.jpg))
(http://www.theholygrail.com/images/Tsarevich_AlexanderIII-left.jpg)
An extract from the forward facing photo of cameo on the right above is a near perfect fit to the circa 1864 photo of Alexander on the left.
In fact the fit is so good that it is highly likely this circa 1864 photograph was the primary source image used by Lebas to carve the cameo.
Alexander's hairline rapidly receded in his late teens to early 20's, and at this time he progressively gained weight and became more full in the face, as shown in the pictures below.
The facial features and hairline of the cameo portrait conform closely to the young Alexander of 1864-5.
(http://www.theholygrail.com/images/TsarevichAlexander1864-73.jpg)
Another identifying clue is the wing collar worn by Alexander in the cameo portrait.
As seen in the pictures above, the Tsesarevich favoured these collars.
In fact the 1866-7 photo with Maria Feodorovna (shown in full below) was probably another one of Lebas' source images.
Under high magnification it is possible to make out a stickpin in Alexander's tie, placed similarly to the one in the cameo portrait.
(http://www.theholygrail.com/images/AlexanderIII-MariaFeodorovna.jpg)
While there is no formal left profile picture of Tsesarevich Alexander to directly compare with the Lebas' cameo portrait,
there is the following right profile on Alexander and Maria's wedding medal, dated with their wedding date in 1866,
although it might have been modeled and released later than 1866 (medal cataloged as Diakov 740.3).
(http://www.theholygrail.com/images/TsarevichAlexander_Wedding_Medal.jpg)
It is likely this medal was Lebas' third source when preparing the cameo of Tsesarevich Alexander.
The medal provides the shape of the face and head, and the size, shape and details of the ears, all of which which closely conform between the medal and cameo,
taking into account the fact the medal is probably at least 2 or 3 years later than the primary 1864 photographic source image.
Paul-Victor Lebas specialised in cameos of royalty looking at their best. No doubt this was a sound commercial strategy in such a rarefied market.
In his image of Queen Victoria carved in 1851, he looked back 13 years to the young Victoria.
He captured a flattering image of Victoria as a beautiful young queen, in a particular pose chosen to emphasise her most attractive features.
In his cameo portrait of Tsesarevich Alexander, Lebas has drawn on contemporary images to achieve a similarly flattering depiction of the Tsesarevich
as a young man, handsome, regal and reflective.
These are not descriptions usually associated with the young Alexander.
In his cameo portrait Paul-Victor Lebas has shown another side of the young man destined to become one of the most powerful people of his time,
Tsar Alexander III.
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Fascinating!
In his cameo portrait of Tsesarevich Alexander, Lebas has drawn on contemporary images to achieve a similarly flattering depiction of the Tsesarevich
as a young man, handsome, regal and reflective.
No, in my opinion he has portrayed him as a pensive, but wishy-washy Anglo-Victorian gentleman. Probably the young Alexander's ruggedly handsome features, which appeal so strongly to us living in an age of democracy and plebeian sex appeal, were considered a bit vulgar in his times and needing to be toned down in portraits of a future elevated autocrat. In Russia because of his future role as God's anointed and in Western Europe because of Russia's barbaric and despotic image. When in reality the young Alexander had these strong facial features that may seem superfiscially Russian or American, but perhaps were Alpino-Gallic, from his biological maternal grandfather Baron de Senarclens-Grancy?
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Very interesting points.
While doing this research it was very noticeable to me that the Russian images of Alexander are very realistic and as you say rugged.
The photographs taken in Britain are highly staged and make Alexander look like a country squire (English landed nobility).
Meanwhile the French in the Second Empire were probably idealising their images to conform to an imagined lost idyll of the First Napoleonic Empire.
Because of these differences in world view and artistic standards, it is quite possible the cameo portrait did not find favour with Alexander, who was later known as "the Peasant's Tsar" and who loved the simplicity of Russian life, with little taste for anything Western.
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Hi all, for those who PM'd and asked to see a full pic of the cameo jewel, here it is:
(http://www.theholygrail.com/images/Cameo1.jpg)
Tsarevich Alexander Alexandrovich Romanov, the future Tsar Alexander III
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Hi,
That cameo brooch is absolutely beautiful - exquisite and a wonderful piece of art... And, must be very well kept and preserved as it looks great.
Thank you for showing it to us.
Larry
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Thanks Larry, yes it is in amazing condition for for an item of jewelry around 150 years old.
Unfortunately I have no provenance as it came to me via a local auction house without any history attached,
so I have no idea how it remained so well preserved through all this time.
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This was mistaken for being Nicholas II but its actually Alexander III
(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/3c/43/41/3c4341d11f5017552e9614a0f63c8616.jpg)
historyofromanovs
I never really thought Nicholas looked much like his father but after seeing this photo mistaken as him I really do see the similarity.
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That IS Nicholas. At least I believe so. Where did you find the information of it being Alexander?
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That IS Nicholas. At least I believe so. Where did you find the information of it being Alexander?
It was originally posted as Nicholas II on romanovillage but TheMauveRoom tumblr said it was Alexander. They also posted this photo of Nicholas when he was around 14 and while they do look similar you can see differences in the face.
(http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii593/TheMauveRoom/dfe4f886.jpg)
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Not exactly a photo of Alexander but I thought it was really cute
French Bisque Exhibition Doll as Tsar Alexander III in Original Costume.
Emile Jumeau,circa 1892,the doll represents the Russian Tsar Alexander III in full regalia costume at the time of the signing of the Franco-Russian Alliance in 1892.
(http://www.theriaults.com/images/1103/cat-1103_056.jpg)
http://www.theriaults.com/default/index.cfm?LinkServID=F1F6B52C-BDB9-3413-D6B0A7098C7BF120&cid=179&r=56&aid=45057
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That IS Nicholas. At least I believe so. Where did you find the information of it being Alexander?
It was originally posted as Nicholas II on romanovillage but TheMauveRoom tumblr said it was Alexander. They also posted this photo of Nicholas when he was around 14 and while they do look similar you can see differences in the face.
Hmm.... I don´t know to be honest. Not completely convinced.
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(http://68.media.tumblr.com/5ed39cc15bc42cc7bcc29a741b192dc8/tumblr_ootc98SNNJ1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
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Alexander III on an old Russian banknote.
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