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Title: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on April 26, 2004, 07:06:32 AM
Does anyone   know why we never see the photos of Dagmar and of his girl Olga in Russian costume for the ball in the winter palace of February 1903? I bought a re-impression of the book of 1903, Dagmar there is in a very small watercolor, but not any Olga.   ???


Please help me with your vast knowledge!!!
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: elisa_1872 on April 26, 2004, 10:04:53 AM
Lisa:)

May i ask where you got a reprint of the costume ball book? I've searched for one for a long time :)

I have a photo of the Empress Marie from the costume ball, in the same book is a photo of the whole gathering of court guests - perhaps one can make out Grand Duchess Olga? The photo is quite small, but one could try anyway :o The book is "Tsar, the lost world of Nicholas and Alexandra" by Peter Kurth.

Best wishes,
Elisa :)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on April 26, 2004, 10:45:47 AM
Thank you Elisa,

but I already have the Kurth's book.

Nevertheless I can't find Olga Alexandrovna on the photo or Dagmar ... :'(



Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Sarai on April 26, 2004, 03:50:57 PM
Sorry Lisa, the website I found the picture on said it was from the 1903 ball and I assumed it was correct. :-/

Well, it's a nice picture of Marie in costume nevertheless, for others to enjoy. I will try to look in my books when I get home tonight to see if I can find any pictures of Olga and Marie from the 1903 ball for you.
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on April 26, 2004, 04:01:39 PM
Dear Elisa,
I completely forgot to say you where I found my book!  I bought it on a Russian site of which here the address.  

http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/1537940/

If you do not speak Russian here the address of the edition house

http://ball.russianantique.com/

I hope that you will be able  to buy it, even if it is very expensive for this is a  true merveille,un collection object!  
Did you read my personal message?  
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Sarai on April 26, 2004, 07:38:43 PM
Lisa,
As promised, I looked through the books that I have but was unable to find a picture of either Marie or Olga in costume from the 1903 ball. Peter Kurth's book, mentioned by Elisa above, has that same picture of Marie in costume that I linked to previously and it makes it look like that is indeed a photo from the 1903 ball, as she is included in that costume amongst several other guests from that same ball. However, you say that is not really accurate, so I guess Kurth got it wrong too. It can be rather confusing then.  :'(
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: elisa_1872 on April 27, 2004, 02:42:52 PM
Lisa!

Hi! Thanks very very much for the infos about the costume ball book!! I sent you a copy of the one in my book that also said 1903, but it seems this book got the date wrong too! What a shame! I wonder, do you have the memoirs of Olga Alexandrowna? I heard it has many pictures, perhaps there might be one from the ball?

I want to save up for that book now! Many thanks again for the great link.

Best wishes Lisa!
Elisa :)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Sarai on April 27, 2004, 03:12:18 PM
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Lisa!
I wonder, do you have the memoirs of Olga Alexandrowna? I heard it has many pictures, perhaps there might be one from the ball?


Elisa,
If by Olga's memoirs you mean the book The Last Grand Duchess by Ian Vorres, I can tell you that I own that book and looked through it last night hoping to find a picture of Olga from the ball, but alas, there isn't one.  :(
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: HRHLaurie1894 on April 27, 2004, 05:10:17 PM
Thanks Lisa for the website for the book on the "Costume Ball of 1903".  That is one that I have to own!!
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on April 30, 2004, 05:11:54 AM
Thank you the girls for your responses!  :D :-*
But don't you  think  that, maybe, Olga didn't  participate in the ball?  ???
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Greg_King on April 30, 2004, 05:44:03 AM
I'm not sure about Olga Alexandrovna being there-I've never seen a reference to her, though in Vorres she makes reference to Alix's costume and to Michael, so who knows?  I've got some kind of book round here with everyone and their costumes but wouldn't know where to find it!

As to the Dowager Empress, however, she did not attend the first night, then later attended when the ball was given in a slightly varied form a few nights later; she did not wear any costume though-of that I'm quite certain, as numerous books make reference to this-the second ball was repeated specifically so that she could see it, and it's this second ball that Michael Alexandrovich attended.

Greg King
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on April 30, 2004, 06:06:29 AM
Thank-you, Greg, for these very useful precisions and lighting up!   ;)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: elisa_1872 on April 30, 2004, 08:46:15 AM
Sarai!

Thanks for telling me about the Olga book! It is indeed the same one, and what a shame, my copy hasn't arrived yet, and i wondered if a photo might be in there..

Thanks to Mr King for the great informations!

Elisa :)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: elisa_1872 on April 30, 2004, 08:48:44 AM
Lisa,

In the book "Toys of the Tsar's Children" is the photo of a painting of Olga that is quite rare, i wonder if it appeared in any other book, im not sure. It was painted in 1908, and shows Olga in a red hat, holding what seems to be a riding habit. The artist is in Russian. The photo is on Page 13. Can anyone else work out the name of the artist? It seems to me to be something like Shchtemver, or such like ???

Elisa
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on May 01, 2004, 04:45:00 AM
Dear Elisa,
Unfortunately, I do not possess this book... :'( someone could  post this portrait? that interests me a lot!  
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Dominic_Albanese on May 29, 2004, 06:08:49 PM
Does anyone know what happened to Alix's costume from the Ball?  In particular that enormous stone (an emerald or was it a ruby, I can't remember).  What a marvelous display those costumes would be.

dca
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: David_Newell on May 29, 2004, 08:00:31 PM
It was recently on display in London at the Hermitage Rooms in Somerset House. It is magnificent. The Tsars costume is in the Kremlin Collections but AF's is kept in the Hermitage Collections
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on May 30, 2004, 08:25:23 AM
The Nicky's costume is in the Kremlin,like the jewels (the biggest emerald in the world) which are in the Diamond Found.
The Alix' costume is in the Hermitage,like Xenia's,Zinaida Yusupova's,and Maria Giorgievna's.The Historical Museum keep a costume,maybe the Maria Pavlovna the Elder's one.
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Guinastasia on May 30, 2004, 02:18:05 PM
Does anyone know what color Xenia's gown was?  For some reason, I always picture it as a pale pink with gold trim.

BTW, did you know that one of Natalie Portman's costumes from Attack of the Clones was based on Xenia's ball ensemble?  You can really see the resemblance-especially in the concept sketch!

The Padawan's Guide (http://www.padawansguide.com/gold.shtml).

I just thought that was interesting.

Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Sarai on May 30, 2004, 06:59:01 PM
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Does anyone know what color Xenia's gown was?  For some reason, I always picture it as a pale pink with gold trim.


It may very well have been pale pink, as in Kurth's book Tsar there is a picture of a fan and opera binoculars that she wore to the ball, and they are in a pale pink color.
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Guinastasia on May 30, 2004, 07:34:45 PM
That's right!  Now I remember!  

I sometimes have "colorized" pictures and I did Xenia's gown in pink with gold beading.
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on May 31, 2004, 04:20:45 AM
Here is the Xenia's dress

http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/html_En/04/b2003/hm4_1_004_1.html

And the Zinaida Yusupova's

http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/html_En/04/b2003/hm4_1_004_2.html
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: ChristineM on May 31, 2004, 09:35:26 AM
The front of the golden sarafan worn by Empress Alexandra Feodorovna to the 1903 Costume Ball was edged with enormous, emerald-cut emeralds.

You can observe in modern illustrations that, at some point during intervening years, these stones have been removed from their settings.

tsaria
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on May 31, 2004, 09:52:39 AM
Yes,you're right.The pearls which are always on the costume are false:so they always here!By the way,like the Xenia's ones...
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on July 31, 2004, 01:19:26 PM
As all of you had help me for my master, with so much kindness, I want to offer you a little gift... The following pictures are colored by myself after the gowns keeping in the museums and the memories of the time... There is an impostor: me!
I hope you will enjoy them! But please, if you want to add them in some web sites or something like that, mention my name! (Lisa from the AP Association for exemple...) ;)

Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on July 31, 2004, 01:23:37 PM

Elizaveta Bernarovna
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/File0004bis.jpg)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lanie on July 31, 2004, 01:27:31 PM
Oh, wow!  They're wonderful!  How did you color them?
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Robert_Hall on July 31, 2004, 02:01:28 PM
Beautiful I My compliments ! I would love to order prints ! What great cards they would make !!
Robert
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on July 31, 2004, 02:14:31 PM
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Oh, wow!  They're wonderful!  How did you color them?

I color them with Adobe Photopshop Elements 2...
Thanks!

Robert, if you want I could create a card with some yext, send it you; and you can print it with a beautiful paper (photos paper I mean...)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Robert_Hall on July 31, 2004, 02:55:43 PM
Thank you very much, Lisa. That would be wonderful.  You have done a truely beautifol work here !  I have seen attemps before, but nothing has come close to what you have accomplished,
Cheers,
Robert
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on July 31, 2004, 03:11:51 PM
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Thank you very much, Lisa. That would be wonderful.  You have done a truely beautifol work here !  I have seen attemps before, but nothing has come close to what you have accomplished,
Cheers,
Robert

You're welcome! & thanks, again!
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Mike on July 31, 2004, 03:23:47 PM
Well done! A small note: GD Alexander Mikhailovich describes his boots at that ball as made of yellow morocco leather.
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on July 31, 2004, 03:35:59 PM
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A small note: GD Alexander Mikhailovich describes his boots at that ball as made of yellow morocco leather.

I know! But a little too "flashy" for me...  ;D
Here they are "dark-no-clean-yellow"!
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Mike on July 31, 2004, 03:39:23 PM
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Here they are "dark-no-clean-yellow"!

Accepted :)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Louise on July 31, 2004, 03:46:54 PM
Absolutely stunning. You are truly an amazing artist. Thank you for sharing your talent with us. WOW

Louise
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Annie on July 31, 2004, 03:58:43 PM
So beautiful, thank you very much! You are an artist!
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: standart on August 01, 2004, 12:17:54 AM
Thank you so much for sharing your beautiful work with us.
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Joanna on August 01, 2004, 12:31:19 AM
What a beautiful gift Lisa! I am in awe!

Joanna
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Belochka on August 01, 2004, 01:07:03 AM
Thanks Lisa for sharing these magnificent images. You are both generous and talented! I am in awe as well!

;D
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 01, 2004, 06:34:10 AM
Thank you for all your kind replies!  :-*
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Sunny on August 01, 2004, 08:54:02 AM
Lisa, they look as if they could walk off the page...so beautiful...thud  :) As ever, your posts are a treat.

Sunny
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: livadia on August 01, 2004, 03:19:34 PM
Excellent work, Lisa.  Among the best colored photos EVER.  LOL.

I know this is linked elsewhere, but for the heck of it...

http://www.costumes.org/history/100pages/1903BALL.HTM
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: grandduchessella on August 01, 2004, 08:02:21 PM
All I can say is OH MY GOD!  :o  They are so beautiful it looks like the photos were actually taken in color and not just colorized. Gorgeous!   :D
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 02, 2004, 01:15:08 PM
Spassiba balchoy!  :D :-*
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 04, 2004, 11:18:42 AM
Princess Ekaterina Vladimirovna Golytsina
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/GOLITSYNEcatherinevladimirovnapcssesrnissimeneMOUSSINE-POUCHKINE.jpg)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: grandduchessella on August 04, 2004, 11:26:38 AM
I've said before, but these are GREAT. I saw a color photo of Xenia's emeralds that she wears on her costume and they're absolutely right. Plus, your fame is spreading--a 'Kory' posted one of your photos of Miechen, I think, on another message board where it received many compliments!
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 04, 2004, 11:36:08 AM
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I've said before, but these are GREAT. I saw a color photo of Xenia's emeralds that she wears on her costume and they're absolutely right. Plus, your fame is spreading--a 'Kory' posted one of your photos of Miechen, I think, on another message board where it received many compliments!


8) hehe!  8)

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a 'Kory' posted one of your photos of Miechen, I think, on another message board where it received many compliments!

Where's my fame  spreading? (I'm curious... ;D)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Ammie on August 04, 2004, 12:24:01 PM
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All I can say is OH MY GOD!  :o  They are so beautiful it looks like the photos were actually taken in color and not just colorized. Gorgeous!   :D


I agree with Ella....these are absolutely stunning.  My favorite one is of Maria Pavlovna.  Good Work Lisa
Ammie
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Angie_H on August 04, 2004, 03:44:10 PM
Elisa who is the author of "Toys of the Tsar's Children"?
Thanks!
Angie
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: grandduchessella on August 04, 2004, 09:02:03 PM
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 8) hehe!  8)

Where's my fame  spreading? (I'm curious... ;D)



They write:
You've seen it tons of times, in every Cartier book, or Imperial Russian photo essay. Lisa on the Alexander Palace Bulletin Board has taken it a step further and colorized it. The result is spectacular and the jewels pop. Thought you'd enjoy it. Visit the Alexander Palace Bulletin Board and see more of Lisa's impressive work -- she's colorized several more pics -- Not too shabby, huh? Compliments for Lisa and a plug for the forum!  :)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: KayTanaka on August 04, 2004, 09:16:15 PM
Dear Lisa,

It is as though you have breathed life into them. Thank you for sharing this precious gift.

Many Blessings, Kay
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: grandduchessella on August 04, 2004, 09:25:18 PM
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Lisa's fame is also spread to the Glittering Royal Events Message Board where Octavius pays her a compliment too.  

http://members3.boardhost.com/Oranjes/msg/60897.html


They even provide a link back here:'Lisa's photos'.  :)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 05, 2004, 04:06:51 AM
I became a star!!! 8)


No, without joking, it's so good to see your loving messages in the morning, just after wake-up! :-*

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/YOUSSOUPOVpcepcssectectsseSOUMAROKOVELTSON.jpg)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: elisa_1872 on August 05, 2004, 05:10:16 AM
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Elisa who is the author of "Toys of the Tsar's Children"?
Thanks!
Angie


Hi Angie, please excuse the late reply! This book is in Russian, and written by a variety of authors. If you go to Gilbert's Royal Books, it will be under the section "Books about the Romanovs". A great book, with marvellous photographs! :D

I second everyone here - Lisa, well done indeed, your photos are stunning :) Especially the 1903 one of Alexandra!!
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 07, 2004, 02:35:23 PM
Thanks, Danke, Gracias, Grazie, Spasseeba, Bedankt, Obrigado, , falemnderit, Hvala,  , tänan, paldies , dakujem vam, tak , tack, mange takk, spasseebee,najlepša hvala, MERCI!!!

Do you have find the impostor?...



Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: RomanovFan on August 07, 2004, 04:43:19 PM
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Xenia Alexandrovna
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/Xnia.jpg)

Elizaveta Bernarovna
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/File0004bis.jpg)



Elizaveta Bernoarova looks young! How old was she supposed to be in that photo? (Beautiful photos, by the way. Thanks for posting. :) )
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 07, 2004, 04:45:21 PM
20!  :D
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Olga on August 08, 2004, 02:31:34 AM
Is it just me or does Count Sumarokov-Elston look like Stalin?  ???

And back to the original question of this thread, are there any photos of Olga Alexandrovna in fancy dress?
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 08, 2004, 04:07:43 AM
Stalin?  ???I never see this, but...yes, a little indeed!  :-/

About Olga, Alexandrovna. She didn't participate to this ball, she wasn't in Saint-Petersburg at this time...
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Olga on August 08, 2004, 04:30:34 AM
Where was she?
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 08, 2004, 04:42:11 AM
Actually, I don't know... but in her diary (if I'm not wrong) Xenia wrote that she received a letter from Olga...
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Katya04 on August 09, 2004, 08:10:56 AM
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Is it just me or does Count Sumarokov-Elston look like Stalin?  ???

?


Argh yes he does! :o

Gorgeous works of art Lisa! :D
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Annette on August 11, 2004, 04:11:19 AM
I've been re-reading The Russia That I Loved by Nadine Wonlar-larsky and she writes that she attended the court ball and sat between the Tsar and Grand Duke Michael at supper.  
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: grandduchessella on August 11, 2004, 09:14:56 AM
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I've been re-reading The Russia That I Loved by Nadine Wonlar-larsky and she writes that she attended the court ball and sat between the Tsar and Grand Duke Michael at supper.  


I just was reading this section that was reprinted in an old Russian Imperial Journal I bought on Ebay! It was so interesting. She was so thrilled as she told her parents that she, a commoner, had sat between the two who never usually sat at the same table even! It was just such an innocently excited recitation--very touching. She remarked on how courtly Nicholas was, relating to her how he came to choose his costume and other stories. She seemed starry-eyed about it and was honored when GD Michael picked her to be his dinner partner (though he had to escort Alexandra in as NII always had to escort the Dowager Empress due to precedence). What a thrill for a young woman!
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Angie_H on August 11, 2004, 05:53:44 PM
Anna Vyrubova went to the ball does anyone have a pic of her in her costume?
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Antonio_P.Caballer on August 11, 2004, 07:50:31 PM
Hello grandduchessella,

are you sure the lady is her cousin? I´ve always thought it was her sister Alexandra...
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 12, 2004, 05:28:41 AM
Here is Alexandra Alexandrovna Taneeva:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/Photo003.jpg)

...and the photo with Anna Vyrubova, compare:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/lazareva.jpg)


Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Angie_H on August 12, 2004, 05:11:53 PM
I remember seeing a website that had a pic of the fan Xenia had for the ball. Does anyone know the site?
Thanks, Angie
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 13, 2004, 04:10:13 AM
You can see it in Peter Kurth's book.
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Angie_H on August 13, 2004, 05:41:50 AM
Duhhhh,....
I feel stupid
Lisa thanks! I'll have to go and dig out my copy!
Angie
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Antonio_P.Caballer on August 15, 2004, 11:18:47 AM
Hope the images will show(I had problems with photobucket...)

Here is another photo of Anna and her sister Alexandra. I´d swear she is the same lady of the ball photo:

(http://img3.exs.cx/img3/3996/AlexandraandAnnaTaneyev.jpg)

The dance of the costume ball was so succesfull that it was repeated twice. One of those times they danced for an even more selected public(if that´s possible...) in the Sheremetiev palace on the Fontanka. Here are two views of that palace´s recently restored ballroom:

(http://img3.exs.cx/img3/7721/Sheremetievballroom.jpg)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 21, 2004, 03:27:09 AM
Thanks, Antonio for the photos! ;)

Here are the jewels of Maria Pavlovna, for the ball:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/1903mariapavlovnabijoux.jpg)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: DaneRomanov on August 22, 2004, 05:41:30 AM
Hiya, Lisa, i loved them pictures you did!!! i have ordered the photoshop, but i cant wait please if i send you one picture you could do it for me? if yes email me at HIHRomanov@hotmail.com because i dont know how to insert picture, its of OTMAA altogether in russian court.
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Forum Admin on August 23, 2004, 11:16:21 AM
This thread reminded me.  We have this original Boissonas & Eggler photo from the 1903 ball, but are not sure who they are. Nick thought Muzhin-Pushkins, but I am not sure. Anyone recognize them? (and this is no 'test' this time! :D)
(http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/img/Eggler1903.jpg)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 23, 2004, 12:24:47 PM
No. It's the Prince Alexander Dmitrievich CHEREMETIEV , his wife Maria Féodorovna,née countess HEINDEN and their daughter Elizabeth.(from the 1903 ball album reedition)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/CHEREMETIEVmariafodorovnactssenectsseHEINDEN.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/CHEREMETIEVActsseE.jpg)


Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Annie on August 23, 2004, 12:33:17 PM
Does anyone know if the Yussoupov sons were at this ball? If they were I'd love to see their costumes. I know they were young (16 and 21) but there are plenty of other young people there, Anna V. and her sister, and that guy's daughter in the last post, so maybe? Felix gave an account of how his mother danced to 5 curtain calls, was he there or did he just hear the story? Also Zenaida danced with Sandro, any pics of that?
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Forum Admin on August 23, 2004, 12:36:38 PM
Lisa
You are the BEST!! Many thanks.
Rob
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 23, 2004, 12:52:06 PM
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Lisa
You are the BEST!! Many thanks.
Rob


WOOOO! Thanks!

I thought that Felix was in England, wasn't he?
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Annie on August 23, 2004, 01:13:59 PM
Do you know why he was in England ???

I know he would not be in Oxford for several more years. His brother attended U of St. Petersburg so he should have been around too. Were they in England on a visit or something?

Oh and thanks again for all your great pics, especially the color ones! :)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 23, 2004, 01:53:45 PM
Thanks, Annie!
Felix was in England for his studies. Don't you read his memories? I't very interesting for understand what kind of man he was...

http://www.alexanderpalace.org/lostsplendor/
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Annie on August 23, 2004, 03:33:46 PM
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Thanks, Annie!
Felix was in England for his studies. Don't you read his memories? I't very interesting for understand what kind of man he was...

http://www.alexanderpalace.org/lostsplendor/


Yes I love that book! But I thought he went to the Gourovich school in St. Petersburg until he went to Oxford after his brother's death in 1908? Was there another English school he went to?
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 23, 2004, 04:01:07 PM
I can't remember exactly... But I had a quick look at the book and he said that in 1902, his parents sent him in Italia... maybe he was there?
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Annie on August 23, 2004, 05:38:06 PM
Could be! I guess if he were at the ball you'd have a pic of him! Thanks.
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 24, 2004, 02:55:46 AM
Halas, no! :'( But you know the famous of 1910 in boyard costume. (it's your little signature pic! ;))It's was for a ball in England...
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Reed on August 24, 2004, 11:49:14 AM
I'm showing my ignorance here!  I can't read Russian and both of the websites listed are in that language.  Where can I locate a copy of "Costume Ball of 1903" or an English website that lists it.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Anastasia on March 26, 2005, 06:56:51 PM
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Here is Alexandra Alexandrovna Taneeva:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/Photo003.jpg)

...and the photo with Anna Vyrubova, compare:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/lazareva.jpg)





they're wearing the same crown. [the argument is that this is the same person and not her cousin in the second one if i'm correct]. it looks like alexandra. in the second picture she just removed her coat.
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Olga on March 26, 2005, 08:35:13 PM
Anna Alexandrovna was quite beautiful in her younger years.
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: GD Alexandra on April 01, 2005, 09:52:30 PM
WoW! The pictures are wonderful!!! Some of them look like they have been taked yesterday
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: brattboy on May 04, 2005, 02:46:28 PM
Is there references to the tailors who helped with the designs of the costumes?  The items in the musuem in which the designs were made?  What exact fabrics and embellishments were used?  Where they trying to aim for correct period outfits or just to have fun during a special occasion?

Ashe'el
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: russianlover76 on August 24, 2005, 09:42:33 PM
Is there any pictures of Olga Alexandrovna from the 1903 ball?



Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Lisa on August 25, 2005, 12:53:13 PM
Russianlover76, Olga didn't participate to the 3 balls...
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: ZarevnaOlga on November 01, 2005, 04:09:10 AM
Ella & Sergej, 1903
(http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/4326/oaf10398wv.th.jpg) (http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf10398wv.jpg)


Nikolaj, 1903
(http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/5287/oaf1543nc.th.jpg) (http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf1543nc.jpg)

(http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/2693/oaf2542nk.th.jpg) (http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf2542nk.jpg)

Nikolaj and Alexandra, 1903 1
(http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/892/oaf10385iv.th.jpg) (http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf10385iv.jpg)

Nikolaj and Alexandra, 1903 2
(http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/795/oaf2701js.th.jpg) (http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf2701js.jpg)



Michail, 1903
(http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/2837/oaf2208kh.th.jpg) (http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oaf2208kh.jpg)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: don on February 19, 2006, 05:19:54 PM
The diaries of Alexander Polovtsov, secretary of the State Council in the 1880's, say that the gentlemen's costumes were generally more historically accurate than the ladies' dresses at these fancy dress balls.  It stands to reason, since men's fashions change less readily than those of the fairer sex.
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: joye on March 17, 2008, 11:03:36 PM
I am reading Christopher Warwick's book "Ella, princess, saint and martyr" and on page 208, it speaks of  the Tsar and  Tsarina and their guests crossing  a bridge to go to the Hermitage Theatre, where there was a masque was performed in their honour.

Here also, a group photo was taken.


Has anyone seen this photo please?      Would be so lovely to see ALL in the costumes they are wearing.

An additional tit-bit. Grand Duke Michael {Misha} Nicky's brother borrowed a fan shaped  diamond aigrette from his mother The Dowager Empress{ Minnie}  to wear on his hat. It became detached during the night and was lost.
There is a photo  of Misha in his costime for the ball and the aigrette can clearly be seen.
I found this on Alex Palace, 1903 Costume Ball  www.costumes.org/history/100pages1903BALL.HTM
Misha is the 3rd photo in tradition costume of the tsarevitch.

I donot know how to do photos. And I give credit to the poster who had the info on the 1903 costume ball  topic.

HRH
 


Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: ashanti01 on March 19, 2008, 11:32:29 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903.jpg)

I have a part of the group picture which has Ella, Serge, Xenia and Nicholas. I will try to find the actual full image.
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: joye on March 20, 2008, 01:36:46 AM
Very clever you. Thanks so much.
Looking forwad to seeing more.

HRH
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: joye on April 13, 2008, 07:36:47 PM
Nadya,
Most grateful for your wonderful photos.
Might I ask where you found them please?
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Nadya_Arapov on April 14, 2008, 08:41:09 AM
Nadya,
Most grateful for your wonderful photos.
Might I ask where you found them please?

"Russia: In Original Photographs, 1860-1920," by Marvin Lyons
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on April 21, 2008, 06:26:52 PM
all 3 of these have probably been posted before, but i'm posting them anyway because i think these maight be (slightly) better, although still not terribly crisp.   i also realized the section w/  Zenaïda Yusupova was missing from Nadya_Arapov's group.  (or i wasn't looking hard enough, which is a distinct possibility ;-P  )

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click on the images for larger versions

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princess Zenaïda Nikolaevna Yusupova
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/yuszen1903crowd.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/yuszen1903crowd.jpg)
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princess Orlova
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/orlova1903crowd.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/orlova1903crowd.jpg)
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QUESTION:
(and i apologize if this has already been asked & answered, but....)
is this Anna Vyrubova?
i realize it's rather difficult to tell in here (the original isn't much better) --- even if it's not her, this lady sure does look like her (at least she does in the book!  :-)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/vyrubovaunk1903crowd.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/vyrubovaunk1903crowd.jpg)
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Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: brnbg aka: liljones1968 on April 21, 2008, 06:46:16 PM

"Russia: In Original Photographs, 1860-1920," by Marvin Lyons



isn't that a wonderful book? 

unfortunately, i've yet to find my own copy of it, but when i was in college in kentucky, i was lucky enough to find his Nicholas II: the Last Tsar (one of my all-time favorites!) & the one by Chloe Obolensky (i can't recall the title @ the moment).   



sidenote: my piece of unsolicited advice for today --> one should ALWAYS check out your local library's booksales!!   i just realized, i found Marvin Lyons' Nicholas II at a booksale of the Lexington Public Library...it was a "moving sale" & "purge" of sorts (old building to new building).......and i bought my copy of F.F. Yusupov's Lost Splendour at a Paducah (kentucky) Public Library booksale in1986!
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Nadya_Arapov on April 21, 2008, 06:54:16 PM
sidenote: ALWAYS check out your local library's booksales!!   i just realized, i found that one at a booksale of the Lexington Public Library...it was a "moving sale" of sorts.......and i bought my copy of F.F. Yusupov's Lost Splendour at a Paducah (kentucky) Public Library booksale in1986!

That is such excellent advice. I have found so many rare books at our main library's annual sales.

You might check this website if you are still looking for Marvin Lyons book. http://www.bookfinder.com/

Zinaida Yusupov was in my picture, but yours does provide a far clearer image of her face. ;-)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: ashanti01 on July 28, 2008, 12:21:54 AM
Sorry if I misspelled their names...was trying to translate as best as I could.

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/NDVonlyarlyarskayawm.jpg)
N.D. Vonlyarlyarskaya

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/OABarjatinskajawm.jpg)
O.A. Barjatinskaja

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/SDArsenevwm-1.jpg)
S.D. Arsenev
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: ashanti01 on July 28, 2008, 12:23:41 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/PPBaranovwm.jpg)
P.P. Baranov and Maid of Honor O.P. Baranova

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/MaidofhonourOPBaranovawm.jpg)
Maid of Honor O.P. Baranova

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/PrincessNABarjatinskajawm.jpg)
Princess N.A. Barjatinskaja
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: ashanti01 on July 28, 2008, 12:25:43 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/ChamberlainFNBezakwm.jpg)
Chamberlain F.N. Bezak

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/EVBarjatinskaja1wm.jpg)
E.V. Barjatinskaja

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/EVBarjatinskajawm.jpg)
E.V. Barjatinskaja
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: ashanti01 on July 28, 2008, 12:28:20 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/aide-de-campofgranddukeNikolayMihaj.jpg)
Aide de camp of Grand Duke Nicholas Mikhailovich

Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: ashanti01 on July 28, 2008, 12:29:32 AM
E.N. Bezak

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/ENBezak3wm.jpg)

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/ENBezakwm.jpg)

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/ENBezak2wm.jpg)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: ashanti01 on July 28, 2008, 01:22:09 AM
 (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/PrincessAVShCherbatovawm.jpg)
Princess A.V, ShCherbatova

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/VADolgorukovawm.jpg)
V.A. Dolgorukova
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: ashanti01 on July 28, 2008, 01:23:28 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/AABeljaevandMFBeljaevoj1wm.jpg)
A.A. Beljaev and M.F. Beljaevo

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/75f7_1wm.jpg)
A.A. Beljaev and M.F. Beljaevo
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: ashanti01 on July 28, 2008, 01:25:53 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/princeyusupovwm.jpg)
Prince Felix Yusupov, Count Sumarokov-Elston

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/zenaidayusupovwm.jpg)
Princess Zenaida Yusupova
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: yussupov29 on March 20, 2010, 09:03:31 PM
Were Prince Felix Yusupov and GD Dimitri attending the ball or were they to young to be invited?

 If yes, are there any pictures of them in fancy dress? I was wondering how Felix with his special taste would have dressed.

Thank you for any information?
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: newfan on March 20, 2010, 11:10:06 PM
yussupov29
If they were the pics should be in this original album ,or maybe other members know?
http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchdetail.cfm?trg=1&strucID=571836&imageID=1224683&parent_id=455088&word=&snum=&s=&notword=&d=&c=&f=&sScope=&sLevel=&sLabel=&total=193&num=0&imgs=12&pNum=&pos=12
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: ashdean on March 21, 2010, 02:39:51 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/AABeljaevandMFBeljaevoj1wm.jpg)
A.A. Beljaev and M.F. Beljaevo

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/1903/watermarked/75f7_1wm.jpg)
A.A. Beljaev and M.F. Beljaevo

Does anyone have more details of this couple,their later life etc.
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: newfan on March 21, 2010, 02:28:34 PM
From  The Costume ball book:
Alexander Alexeevich Beliaev(from 7oct 1904 Count Ridigher-Beliaev)
Born 8Feb.1867 in SP
Son of Lieutenant General Alexey Mikhailovitch Beliaev(1831-1885)
In the rank of Staff Captain was Adjutant under GD Vladimir Alexandrovich.
On 7Oct 1904 by the highest confirmation of the State Council he was permitted to add the hereditary title and name of his wife to his own.Subsequently he was at the disposal of GD Andrey Vladimirivich,Major General of Calvary
After the revolution emigrated with his family to Poland
Died 28 DEC 1939 in Skolymov near Warsaw

Countess Maria Feodorovna Beliaeva(7Oct 1904 Countess Ridigher Beliaeva
Born 8 Nov 1864 in the estate of Lyublin (Kingdom of Poland)daughter of retired Captain Count Feodor Germanovich (Johann Friedrich)Ridigher ,and Sophia Yulievna ,nee von Kruzenster ,proprietors of the castle Ass in the Estlandskaya gubernia.
Granddaughter of Governor General of the kingdom of Poland Field Marshal General Friedrich Alexander Ridigher(1783-1856),first generation Count.Proprietor of the ancestral entailed estate of Lyublin.
Up to her marrige-Maid of Honor of GD Maria Pavlovna
After emigration lived in Poland and Germany
Died 2DEC.1952 in Pappenheim (Bavaria)
Children:Maria 1896-1978 married to Prince Dmitry Iosifovich Shalikashvili 1932 captain and Military Adviser to the Polish Army .Sons
Prince Joseph and John are generals of the US Army
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: yussupov29 on March 21, 2010, 05:26:25 PM
yussupov29
If they were the pics should be in this original album ,or maybe other members know?
http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchdetail.cfm?trg=1&strucID=571836&imageID=1224683&parent_id=455088&word=&snum=&s=&notword=&d=&c=&f=&sScope=&sLevel=&sLabel=&total=193&num=0&imgs=12&pNum=&pos=12


Thank you for the link, newfan! I'll look for them...
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: yussupov29 on March 21, 2010, 06:30:32 PM
Is there a list with all attendants of the ball?

And why did Maria Feodorowna not attend? Does anybody know something about it? Was she still mourning and not allowed to go to balls, because she was widowed?
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: newfan on March 21, 2010, 10:14:52 PM
If I remember correctly she attended the second ball on 13 Feb....not the first on the 11Feb(I think she was sick????maybe I don't remember)There is a list of the people who attended the ball its in the book.I thing there is another link here that talks about it
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Ally Kumari on March 22, 2010, 04:08:00 AM
Were Prince Felix Yusupov and GD Dimitri attending the ball or were they to young to be invited?

 If yes, are there any pictures of them in fancy dress? I was wondering how Felix with his special taste would have dressed.

Thank you for any information?

Grand Duke Dmitri was definitely not present being barely 13 at the time.
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Luc on July 10, 2011, 05:53:18 AM
This question may be asked before, but I would like to know it. From this thread and some other threads about the 1903 ball, I know grand duke Konstantin Konstantinovich was at the ball.
Did his mother, grand duchess Konstantin (Alexandra Iosifovna) and his brothers, attend the ball?
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Kalafrana on July 10, 2011, 06:02:42 AM
Newfan

Interesting about the Beliaevs. I think I'm right in saying that their grandson John Shalikashvili was not only as US General, but Chairman of the American Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Ann
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Svetabel on July 10, 2011, 11:52:21 AM
This question may be asked before, but I would like to know it. From this thread and some other threads about the 1903 ball, I know grand duke Konstantin Konstantinovich was at the ball.
Did his mother, grand duchess Konstantin (Alexandra Iosifovna) and his brothers, attend the ball?

His mother was in a very bad health then, but brother Dmitriy did attend.
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Luc on July 12, 2011, 02:53:19 AM
Svetabel, thank you for the information:) I will look in the other threads about the ball to see a picture if Dmitriy at the ball!

Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: GD Sophia on February 23, 2013, 04:34:37 AM
Some photos never seen before: http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/hor-j/tags/1903/? (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/hor-j/tags/1903/?)
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Joanna on June 30, 2016, 06:13:28 PM
Has anyone seen a film of Nicholas II walking the halls of the Hermitage during the Costume Ball?

https://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2016/06/film-of-costume-ball-1903.html

Joanna
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Joanna on July 05, 2016, 05:08:24 PM
Empress Alexandra invited her female servants, maids of different ranks, to attend the ball:

https://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2016/07/costume-ball-1903-servants.html

Joanna
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Joanna on February 06, 2017, 05:42:21 PM
Fabergé & Nabokov - 1903 Costume Ball in the Winter Palace

https://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2017/01/faberge-nabokov-1903-costume-ball-in.html

Joanna
Title: Memories of the 1903 Ball
Post by: thedarkone on November 06, 2017, 03:40:34 PM
Hi all - been a while since I've been in the forum.

I'm looking into the 1903 Ball, specifically what occurred during the two nights in February at the Winter Palace. Previous threads have been mostly about what the guests wore (which is very cool), but I'm hoping to know more about what the guests actually did on both nights.

Any specific memoirs or recollections that you can point me to would be much appreciated. Apologies if this is documented in another thread, but I did a pretty thorough check and mostly saw costume-related posts.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Memories of the 1903 Ball
Post by: Sanochka on November 07, 2017, 09:40:14 AM
If I can remember correctly, there would have been dancing, with midnight supper and then more dancing afterward, until the wee hours of the morning. 

According to Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna, it was at this ball that her brother, Grand Duke Michael, lost a crown jewel.  She does not mention what jewel it was, but describes how police conducted a lengthy and thorough search for the jewel afterward, including searching the potted palms decorating the three state rooms in which the ball was held.  She was clearly distressed at the memory.
Title: Re: Costume Ball 1903
Post by: Kalafrana on November 17, 2017, 03:12:09 AM
It was also quite usual at Russian balls for card tables to be set up in an adjoining room so that the less enthusiastic dancers could enjoy themselves with bridge and chat.

Ann