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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna => Topic started by: Teddy on November 23, 2004, 01:48:51 PM

Title: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: Teddy on November 23, 2004, 01:48:51 PM
In Lifelong Passion, there are many letters of Elly to Nicky and vice versa, so far.

But are there no letters of Ella to her sisther Alix?

And are there letters of Ella to the IF in captivity?
Did Elly try, to make contact while she was in captivity?
Title: Re: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: Georgiy on November 23, 2004, 02:00:03 PM
I seem to recall reading, probably in the Empress's diary, that GD Elizaveta sent them coffee and chocolate - I think when in Tobolsk, but it might have been Ekaterinburg.
Title: Re: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: ashanti01 on November 23, 2004, 02:46:20 PM
I have never read any correspondance between Alix and Ella. Maybe Alix burned them?
Title: Re: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: Johnny on November 24, 2004, 03:32:14 PM
I was actually thinking that I should start a new thread for this topic. But there are too many threads as it is.
The last meeting between Ella ans Alix is one of the most tragic and at the same time ironic pages of all history. I have seen and read often about the conversation, but I have never seen the actual conversation itself. Does anyone know whether the actual conversation has been recorded somewhere, and if so, how can one have access to it?
Title: Re: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: Sarah1872 on July 01, 2005, 02:11:10 PM
http://www.orthodoxengland.btinternet.co.uk/ellalet1.htm
Title: Re: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: Margarita Markovna on July 03, 2005, 09:34:06 PM
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I seem to recall reading, probably in the Empress's diary, that GD Elizaveta sent them coffee and chocolate - I think when in Tobolsk, but it might have been Ekaterinburg.


It was Ekaterinburg.  ;)
Title: Re: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: Speedycat on July 05, 2005, 10:38:13 AM
Just a guess about the lack of letters (or evidence of letters) between Alix and Ella.  Since they were both in Russia and the political situation was so unstable for many years, perhaps they thought it best to destroy letters that mention politics, other members of the IF etc?  I had heard or read somewhere that Alix especially preserved her letters from Ernie to prove she was not a German sympathizer during WWI.
Title: Re: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: Speedycat on July 05, 2005, 10:41:49 AM
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Hi Elisa,

.......................the address on the enevelope is in Alix's handwriting and in red ink of a similar shade as the little flowers in the decoration.
Oh, how I wish I could make such lovely things...


Tried it once with considerable success, until the post office got their hands on it.  The new and improved automated postal reading system could not adjust itself to read the address as it was "distracted" by the drawings.  Ahh, gone are the days when an actual human being would READ what was written on an envelope!! ::)
Title: Re: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: pinklady on July 07, 2005, 05:28:59 AM
In a letter Alix wrote to Nicholas on 22 October 1910, Alix says
" Ella sent me a kind, affectionate little letter, knowing I would feel lonely this morning."
That is the only reference of Alix referring to Ella sending her a letter I could find.
Title: Re: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: bluetoria on July 07, 2005, 06:25:42 AM
Ella also sent Alix icons & a letter from Sarov but since this coincided with the murder of Rasputin, Alix returned them unopened.  :(
Title: Re: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: lexi4 on July 08, 2005, 09:42:03 PM
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I was actually thinking that I should start a new thread for this topic. But there are too many threads as it is.
The last meeting between Ella ans Alix is one of the most tragic and at the same time ironic pages of all history. I have seen and read often about the conversation, but I have never seen the actual conversation itself. Does anyone know whether the actual conversation has been recorded somewhere, and if so, how can one have access to it?

Johnny, When was the last meeting of Ella and Alix. I should know this, but can remember. Where can I find it?
Thank you
Title: Re: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: Sarai on July 09, 2005, 03:43:19 PM
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Johnny, When was the last meeting of Ella and Alix. I should know this, but can remember. Where can I find it?
Thank you


Their last meeting was in December 1916.
Title: Re: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: Dominic_Albanese on August 11, 2005, 02:20:36 PM
At their final meeting Ella tried one more time to get Alix to see how the political situation was disintagrating around her that she needed to stay out of government business and she needed to give up Rasputin.  I vaguely remember that Ella told Zenaide Yossopov that Alix "drove me away like a dog".  In other words, Ella's words had no effect on Alix at all.  Too bad, we all know what happened next...

dca
Title: Re: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: bluetoria on August 12, 2005, 05:31:25 AM
"Poor Nicky! Poor Russia!" Ella said. The final meeting is so heart-breaking, isn't it?
Title: Re: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: Olga Maria on June 07, 2010, 02:51:10 AM
Letters of Ella to Ernie:

(Regarding Eddy marrying Alicky…Source:Queen Victoria and her Daughters by Nina Epton)

“I find the idea of Eddy’s marrying Alix quite dreadful—first cousins it is best to avoid—but the chief objection is that he does not look overstrong and is too stupid. England with such a husband is not at all a place for Alix. I long to have her as happy as are we three”.

(She was asking Ernie to convince their grandmother, Queen Victoria, to agree of the Nicky-Alicky match…Source:An Unbroken Unity: A Memoir of the Grand Duchess Serge of Russia by Edith Martha von Almedingen)

“Give Alix courage—be yourself very careful what you say in your conversation with Grandmama; it would be much better not to speak to Pelly [Nicholas] or, if she does, tell her that there has been nothing whatever between Alix and Pelly, that you of course have no voice in the question. If she wished to know frankly your opinion about Pelly, say what a perfect creature he is—adored by all, and that Alix deserves this loving being in every way. Give an idea of the happy family life so that Grandmama’s prejudices may be lessened. That will be a great step and help when the deciding moment arrives. Through all the idiotic trash in the newspapers she gets impossible untrue views and founds all her arguments on facts which probably never existed…God grant this marriage will come true…I had a letter from Pelly, always longing for news and feeling very lovesick and lost and having nobody except Serge and me with whom to talk.”

These letters are quoted in Greg King’s Book, The Last Empress. I’m wondering whether fuller versions of both letters are published on the books where they are taken from.

Title: Re: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: Inok Nikolai on January 29, 2014, 09:57:24 AM
Paul Gilbert has posted excerpts from G. D. Elizabeth Feodorovna's letters to Tsar Nicholas II:

http://www.angelfire.com/pa/ImperialRussian/news/569news.html
Title: Re: Ella's Correspondence
Post by: Olga Maria on January 30, 2014, 01:36:40 AM
Super thanks, Father Inok Nikolai! I hope someday there would be a book or books of Ella's letters to Alix and Nicky  (with N&A's replies to her: )