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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Marie Feodorovna => Topic started by: Lisa on February 26, 2005, 07:24:15 AM
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Kramskoy 1882 (a bigger version):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/lyzotchka1/KRAMSKOY1882muserussestp.jpg)
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by Makovsky:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/lyzotchka/MAKOVSKY.jpg)
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by von ANGELI
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/lyzotchka1/angely_maria.jpg)
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by FLAMENG
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/lyzotchka1/1880sFLAMENGinJuhlatp.jpg)
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2 other views of Dagmar's dress:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/lyzotchka1/CORBAY-WENZEL188618933.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/lyzotchka1/inZarereichp.jpg)
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In St. Louis we were lucky enough to have a Russian Imperial Artifacts exhibit several years ago at our history museum.
One of the things that stood out in my mind was the dress of Marie Feodorvna, that she wore upon arriving in Russia or at a dinner that evening. It was lavender
velvet, with silver, and white satin, of course in the court style, but she was so TINY..
She was diminiutive in height and weight. I wish I had a photo of the dress. Both Minny & Aix were known for their style and their ability to wear clothes.
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Looking at these pictures, I see that the old photos don't do these gowns justice. When you think they are dressed in a simple manner, you realize they are really dressed up!
I didn't know a skirt could come with an afternoon and evening top! Thanks for the info
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I agree :D, but here is the "real" color... Sorry I don't have the full portrait:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/lyzotchka1/minniedetailcourt.jpg)
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I think taht the empress´s portrait in formal drees may be reeddish, because the blue that you can see in Liljones picture dess is like it had been colorized over (I have a little experience in that, you can see that dress´s frontal part must be white/silver or gold but the colour is like a light uniform blue. The colour blue is too much uniform in the dress´embroidered part too). And because I allways see that portarit in red colour in different places. :-/
Greetings
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One more sketch of the Imperial family.
Here is a painting by M.Zichy portraying a family dinner in Spala in August 1894.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Palaces/spala1894august.jpg)
We see Alexander III's back,his spouse MF and Tsesarevitch Nikolay are to his right. In front of Nikolay is GD Georgiy, his brother.To Alexander's left is sitting GDss Maria Pavlovna-elder. GD Vladimir is coming down the steps.
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At least the full portrait of Dagmar by KRAMSKOY in 1882 at the Russian Museum of Saint Petersburg! Beware, it's vey big (but very beautiful!!)
(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/6540/1882kramskoymuserussestp2eq.th.jpg) (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1882kramskoymuserussestp2eq.jpg)
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At least I found a big, beautiful, incredible, and georgous version of the portrait painted by Makovski in 1912 of Dagmar (Russian Musuem, St Petersburg) !!!
(http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9945/1912makovskymuserusse6vo.th.jpg) (http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1912makovskymuserusse6vo.jpg)
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(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/opzich/MinnieSashaMichael.jpg)
Yes she does ;) here she is with Sasha and her son Michael.
RN
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Portrait by Korzukhin, about 1883.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/mf1883.jpg)
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How come Tuxen's painting only included Misha and not the rest of the children of MF and Alexander? Is it because Misha is their only favorite child? I mean if there's going to be a family portrait, why not include the rest of the children? Any inputs are appreciated. Thank you.
I think it was a "sketch" for the Danish familly portrait made by Tyxen...Christian IX and Queen Louise with their family in a garden pavilion of the Fredensborg Palace in 1883
General sketch: (http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/370/1883tuxenof7.th.jpg) (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1883tuxenof7.jpg)
close up: (http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1907/aaanew021lt4.th.jpg) (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aaanew021lt4.jpg)
Like this one of Alexandra and Prince of Walles: (http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2566/8623ya2.th.jpg) (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=8623ya2.jpg)
I don't have the picture... Can someone post it, please?
More about Tuxen : http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/html_En/04/2006/hm4_1_143.html
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Alexandra had a smaller-scale version painted as well as a segment of her, Bertie and Eddy (exactly as they are in the full version). It seems that most of the children and Louise & Christian had their sections done as separate pictures as well as the group. L&C's section is at Frederiksborg, I believe, as are many of the other small group portraits.
Tuxen did the preliminary sketches when the group was gathered in Denmark for Queen Louise's birthday as well as the background and composition. There's a copy of a preliminary portrait--minus Nicholas, George V and the future Christian X--from the background and Alexandra of Greece isn't next to Queen Olga. The figure of Misha is also slightly different. Misha is actually different in all 3 incarnations--the sketch, Queen Alexandra's copy and the finished picture. There were some additional changes to QA's version and the dog beside the Tsar is omitted and more of the ceiling (of the Garden Room) was shown. Her version was at Marlborough House, then Buckingham Palace and then returned to Marlborough House when she was widowed.
There were several photos of various family members (individually and in small groups) that were used to supplement the sketches that Tuxen did. Several of the photos were later published in magazines and in postcard/cabinet card form. The figures of Louise & Christian in the portrait are almost identical to the photos. Tuxen also travelled back to Denmark when the Greek royals were visiting and to Russia where AIII sat for him (and where one of his aides put on his uniform and took his place for some time). The segment he did here of MF, AIII and Misha was done at Gatchina in 1884. He also went to Gmunden in the fall to do the Cumberlands and then onto England to do the Waleses.
QV was impressed enough to ask Tuxen to do Beatrice's wedding (which he declined) and then later her own family gathering.
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Anyone of you have this wonderful portrait of Minnie without marks? I would appreciate, since I like so much this portrait...
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/queenberenice/MariaFeodorovnaMinnie.jpg)
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Anyone of you have this wonderful portrait of Minnie without marks? I would appreciate, since I like so much this portrait...
(http://www.picatom.com/f/Tsesarevna%20Maria%20Fedorovna_portrait-1-th.JPG) (http://www.picatom.com/f/Tsesarevna%20Maria%20Fedorovna_portrait-1.html)
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you may have seen this already, but here's a painting either based on the foto, or done from life (in the same clothes):[/size]
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/marieFeod76.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/marieFeod76.jpg)
here's a bit of a close-up of the famous (and oft posted ;-) foto of Mariia Feodorovna from 1896 (minus the crown in your foto).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/dagmarCapture27.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/dagmarCapture27.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/MF_Capture2.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/MF_Capture2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/MF_Capture3.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/MF_Capture3.jpg)
and miniature (w/ 2 different ribbons) based on the foto:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/MF_Capture1b.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/MF_Capture1b.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/dagmar_miniature4.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/dagmar_miniature4.jpg)
and a very flattering close-up with the crown:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/epssMF_crowncurls.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/epssMF_crowncurls.jpg)
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click on image for larger version
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/mariiafeodorovna.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/My%20Photos/mariiafeodorovna.jpg)
by Emil' O. Vizel
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In June 1873 Marie Feodorova and her husband visited london as a guest of her sister the princess of Wales. I have a painting by the artist william salter(waterloo banquet) which looks like Marie but has a lable on the back describing the sitter as Alexandra Feodorovna-empress of Russia.The sitter is clearly not Alexandra Feodorovna but could it be Marie.
Does anybody know whether Marie sat for a portrait by Salter during her london visit in june 1873???
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I would like to post an image of the painting but as i am new i do not know how to do this! can somebody please adsvise. thx
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Hi Melvin,
1873:
You are right that it could not be Empress Alexandra Feodorovna as she was not Empress then and was only about 1 year old at the time.
It would be interesting if someone could post this picture as there are many experts on this Forum, who could identify it for you.
Larry
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Here is the portrait painted by William Salter (1804-1875).
(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm243/Gallaeciafulget/MariaFeodorvnapaintedbyWilliamSalte.jpg)
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She doesn't look like herself in this picture...Her expression was entirely different, I think. :-\
RealAnastasia.
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Either it´s not Maria Fyodorovna, or the painter was REALLY BAD in what he was doing. The picture doesn´t look anything like her!
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Yes, the eyes are all wrong!
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Its good to get a bit of feedback. Just to tell you everything i know about this painting. I was painted by william salter who died in 1875,There is an old label on the back describing the sitter as "Alexandra Feodorovna-empress of Russia." I think this is idefinately wrong,but it is odd to describe anyone as such without there being some connection??
He was reasonably famous and a Royal academician.
The painting is signed on the front. w salter 187?. This would tie in with Maries trip to london for 3 months from june 1873 when she visited her sister and stayed at Marlborough house.
I can find no record of her sitting for salter but he may have painted a poor image from a newspaper???
With Maries interest in art it is possible she sat for a portrait???
Victorian artists may have produced a slightly "romanticised "image of their sitters??
I think the gold cross jewellry is slightly odd for an English victorian lady..does that mean anything to anyone???
It may well not be her, but i have had replies from a few "experts" who think it is .....
Thank you for any more thoughts.
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Question concerning the "Salter"painting: Is the painting that the gentleman posting here owns, the VERY SAME (original) painting, shown as ID 101985, or is this gentleman's painting an EXACTING oil copy, perhaps with some age? The price isn't shown or marked "sold", if after the fact, in the Country House Protraits' brief reference. And what is "POA" (price on asking?)? Is there any known provenance from Country House Portraits? That should be helpful. I am assuming that the oils the business offers ARE originals (as reflected in the asking price!). AP.
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I gather then that Salter did not paint Maria Feodorovna, at least not this time.
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Hi. As clarification this painting is the SAME as on the country house portraits website. That is my site and essentially i buy and sell British portraits.i bought this from a small auction house in sussex as i was intrigued by the label on the back.I have no knowledge of the Russian royal family hence posting on this site.It certainly is an original work by salter,but clearly there is some dispute as to who the sitter may be!.The sitter has brown eyes,does this tie in with Marie?? thx
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(http://i33.tinypic.com/efp3e0.jpg)
(http://i35.tinypic.com/2eav2xc.jpg)
With her kids , behind Sasha
(http://i37.tinypic.com/i6idrm.jpg)
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Christ´s blessing upon the family of Alexander III. This time we can see the whole family - Georgi is behind young Nicky, Alexander III. has hands upon Michael´s shoulders, while Xenia and Olga are near their mother. Painting by Makarov.
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/th_alex-1.jpg) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/VelkokneznaMaria/alex-1.jpg)
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Minnie
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6748/big60mariya.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/01-f/th_marfedfull.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/01-f/marfedfull.jpg)
click on image for larger version
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Is there a colour version ?
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Yes, I have it, but cropped:
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/th_1880skramskoi2tr-733.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/?action=view¤t=1880skramskoi2tr-733.jpg)
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I don't know source of painting and its location, sorry. Hope I helped with posting. ;)
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Yes. I have seen that too. The whole version is not available right ? Is the painting still in Russia ?
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Le Petit Journal:
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/th_236258Empress-of-Russia-from-Le-Pet.jpg) (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x139/nemanjapr/Romanov/Aleksandar_III/?action=view¤t=236258Empress-of-Russia-from-Le-Pet.jpg)
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Dagmar
(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/oldenburg/slhkings/1847%20Dagmar-12.jpg)
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Deceased Alexander III in his Chair with Empress Maria Fiodorovna alongside
Zichy, Mihaly.
Quite an intimate piece !
http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/fcgi-bin/db2www/fullSize.mac/fullSize?selLang=English&dlViewId=BQU36X2YI3A9RXHF&size=small&selCateg=picture&dlCategId=XU6F3Q39DHUQ$CBK&comeFrom=quick
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It is the same portrait posted thousand of times in this forum ;-)
Here for those who wants to see it
(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9481/bqu36x2yi3a9rxhf6b.jpg)
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I agree :D, but here is the "real" color... Sorry I don't have the full portrait:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/lyzotchka1/minniedetailcourt.jpg)
Full version:
(http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/45123/2388930860101857556S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2388930860101857556bSYxCv)
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Very beautiful ones
Agree with you! :)
Oh, since this topic is completely dedicated to portraits/paintings of Marie Feodorovna, I want to add some information about the portrait in the reply #85 - it's a work of Vladimir Makovsky, the year is 1885, If I'm not wrong it was made inside of the Gatchina Palace.
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(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3346/61250913.jpg)
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/6921/f04d5431cdea.jpg)
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Oh! The first one is definitely new for me! thank you for posting.
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Yes!! im so happy to finally see something new over here! Thanks so much for sharing!
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Oh! The first one is definitely new for me! thank you for posting.
I agree completely with you, the second one is nice too ;-)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/01-f/th_marfedfull.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/skinheadbrian/01-f/marfedfull.jpg)
click on image for larger version
I picked up a copy of "Moscow - splendours of the Romanov's" and was rather startled to find myself looking at a watercolour on page 122 of "the red salon with portraits of Emperor Alexander III & Empress Marie Feodorovna" dated 1902 by A P Barychnikov in the state historical museum of Moscow. The portrait of Marie Feodorovna in this watercolour is definatley this work above so it's obviously a pair with her husband...now if we can just find out if it still exists.....
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(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/4462/artlibgallery48978b.jpg)
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I've never seen that portrait before, she looks completely different than in the great
majority of her other portraits... Who painted it?
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Looks pretty 3D. That effect and the details are awesome but Marie`s face....hmm..no.
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I agree...It does not seem to be an old painting.
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Yeah. It looks pretty new for me. I think that they've created it by PC. I know a guy who does exactly the same with Marie-Antoinette. The "new" paintings looks absolutely gorgeous, but you realizes they are not painted at Marie-Antoinette's era on the spot. This is the case with this new Minnie painting.
RealAnastasia.
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I'm agree, this should be a PC creation, however I like it, it's very particular.
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Yes, that's possible. it isn't like the other paintings of her time
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A portrait of Empress Marie painted by Vladimir Yegorovich Makovsky in St Petersburg in 1912
(http://inlinethumb63.webshots.com/44414/2621102690102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2621102690102753164yLvshO)
(http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/44682/2717785440102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2717785440102753164AWJDcX)
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That is probabl the most stunnig and beautiful portrait of her.
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I haven't seen any painting of her not finished yet, I agree totally that is one of the best
portraits that were made for her ;-)
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Hi everyone!
Just want to share with you some rare portraits of HM Maria Fedorovna, which I have in my collection of images.
The first one is by N.G.Shilder (1887):
(http://i062.radikal.ru/1001/ab/bc39166f7fd1t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/i062.radikal.ru/1001/ab/bc39166f7fd1.jpg.html)
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And one more portrait (sorry, I don't know the author's name)
(http://s55.radikal.ru/i148/1001/d0/c3e5ea5b4a5et.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s55.radikal.ru/i148/1001/d0/c3e5ea5b4a5e.jpg.html)
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None of them is rare :) But thank you for reminding them.
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h, yes. She was a beatiful woman and knew how to wear a nice dress. She was very stylish, very regal, a gift for the eyes.
RealAnastasia.
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Alexander III & Marie Feodorovna by Ivan Kramskoy. I don't think I've seen this one here...
(http://inlinethumb61.webshots.com/8380/2399213260102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2399213260102753164nPgcbt)
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It turns out that Marie Feodrovna was also a talented artist. I thought this link might interest some people. I'd love to see more of her work. Also on the wish list is some of Ella's paintings. So many royal ladies in the 19th century painted, but you rarely see examples of their output.
http://swordandsea.blogspot.com/2009/06/paintings-by-maria-feodorovna.html
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Wonderful paintings, I'm particularly amazed by the first one, the accuracy with which she painted every detail it's absolutely stunning, she was indeed a skillful painter.
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Sorry if this is repeated
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2hqtoow.jpg)
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Yep, that´s a famous coronation portrait.... One of my favourite images of her.
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Yes Maria looks great in the bustle dress..... She had a fabulous shape and was so pretty.
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Love that coronation portrait too. So lovely in colour !!! Minny had great taste in clothes.
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Love that coronation portrait too. So lovely in colour !!! Minny had great taste in clothes.
I agree, although I doubt she had much to say about the coronation dress.
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About the jewels she wore I think...
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Not sure about that again. For example weding jewewls were strickly selected for the occassion by tradition. Don´t see wha coronation jewels would be difference, but I can be wrong of course.
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newspaper page showing illustrations of Marie thru the years. I wish i had it bigger, i think i ll ask for a print of it
(http://i50.tinypic.com/29nhymu.jpg)
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Yes. Although the Empress can select pieces to wear. If you look at the photos or paintings of Alicky & Minny. Minny tend to wear more jewels than Alicky. Perhaps the younger woman felt the burden of wearing so many plus the heavy robes.
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She looks incredible with her coronation gown!!!
Marie through the time is lovely too, she looks much better with bustle than crinoline!!
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The clothes of the 1880's-1890's suited Minny.
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Yes, I agree, the bustle dresses made her figure to look more beautiful than with big
crinolines
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a newspaper illustration
(http://i45.tinypic.com/27yd1fa.jpg)
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(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/th_dagmardenmark1847.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/dagmardenmark1847.jpg)
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Lovely!!! Were they on a parade?
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From the Musee D`orsay
(http://i46.tinypic.com/vxbtoh.jpg)
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It must be based on her famous painting
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The print (that I have) is when Dagmar & her family visited England, they were dressed alike. It was commented on in the ILN.
The portrait I think was based on a photo, since she had the same jewels.
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The jewels and the dress are the same
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(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/th_1344525.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/1344525.jpg)
A dramatic one by Henri Meyer ; Alexander III and Maria Fyodorovna
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Strange to see Minny already in mourning clothes & veil before her husband was dead.
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ists just an illustration. But still i wondered the same thing when i saw it in the "alexander II and others portraits" topic
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I think that priest in the painting (I am wrong, his rank is higher than just a priest) is John from Kronstadt who was presented at AIII's death at Livadia in October of 1894, and who later healed both Anna Vyrubova and Zenaida Yussupova.
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nena, interesting info mation! Also, didn't AlexanderIII die in a chair? So alot of creativity going on. It's more of an over all than a picture of the event .
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Yes, Alexander III. died sitting in a chair and his wife was hugging him until the last moment.
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I think that priest in the painting (I am wrong, his rank is higher than just a priest) is John from Kronstadt who was presented at AIII's death at Livadia in October of 1894, and who later healed both Anna Vyrubova and Zenaida Yussupova.
Nena,
Where did you come across information that Ioann Kronstadt allegedly "healed" Anna Taneeva and Zinaida Yusupova?
Margarita
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Where did you come across information that Ioann Kronstadt allegedly "healed" Anna Taneeva and Zinaida Yusupova?
Margarita[/color]
I'm not nena but may I answer? I've read in Anna Vyrubova's Memories of the Russian Court that she was healed by Ioann of Kronstadt at her illness when she was still a teenage girl.
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Nena,
Where did you come across information that Ioann Kronstadt allegedly "healed" Anna Taneeva and Zinaida Yusupova?
Margarita
In Radzinsky's 'The Rasputin File'. ;-)
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(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/th_81968_128877.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/81968_128877.jpg)
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Von Angely (or Angeli) is one of my most favorite painters. Is there any painting of Dagmar done by Kaulbach?
(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/th_1891Portrait.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/1891Portrait.jpg)
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That about Marie is really nice, do you know the year??
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Around her coronation. (The one with the tiara)
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Perhaps, there are several portraits of Marie wearing that kind of tiaras
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It is the age. Her later ones looked older.
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Other...
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/VictorianGowns/Maria_Fyodorovna.jpg)
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(http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/th_1212592198_portret-imperatricy-mari.jpg) (http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq126/olga_maria1993/1212592198_portret-imperatricy-mari.jpg)
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(http://i43.tinypic.com/sditqv.jpg)
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A lovely painting. Thanks for posting ! :-) From Russia ?
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It's one of the nicest paintings of Marie. So pretty ;-)
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She was still a young woman then. ;)
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Yes, she was. Her eyes look of a beautiful color on it
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She was a charming young woman. ;)
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Yes, she was a pretty young lady
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Among those who met her, most remember her friendly smile, charming conversation and stunning blue eyes...
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She was still a young woman then. ;)
Yes, she was a pretty young lady
Yes, she was. Her eyes look of a beautiful color on it
I think you should go on posting such trivial things by PM to each other. Your SMS-like chatting doesn't add ANYTHING new or informative to the discussion.
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Hehe, just what I was thinking!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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She was still a young woman then. ;)
Yes, she was a pretty young lady
Yes, she was. Her eyes look of a beautiful color on it
I think you should go on posting such trivial things by PM to each other. Your SMS-like chatting doesn't add ANYTHING new or informative to the discussion.
Personally I think there should be a cap on how many posts are made in a day...then others of us on the board would be far less irritated!.
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Thank you Svetabel. The situation got pretty annoying.
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Well...I agree, but I don't want the thread to fall off the discussion. If we get more meaningful responses...
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Well...I agree, but I don't want the thread to fall off the discussion. If we get more meaningful responses...
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats rich coming from the person that dithers on about NOTHING week in and week out !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well...I agree, but I don't want the thread to fall off the discussion. If we get more meaningful responses...
Eric,
As an author I should think that you'd be more mindful of your legacy.... keep in mind that all of the posts will be archived at The United States Library of Congress and will be examined in detail by historians in generations to come. Think of the shock that will be felt by those who do a search expecting to find carefully thought-out and correctly spelled "meaningful responses" by Author Eric Lowe... they'll no doubt be ROTFL (and I wish I could be there to witness it the first time it happens)!!
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Well...I agree, but I don't want the thread to fall off the discussion. If we get more meaningful responses...
If we get more informative posts from you the discussion will be FAR MORE interesting.
I don't want to begin moderating your posts,I've been deleting enough rubbish and fluff during the clean-up of the Forums.
I know for sure that many posters get furious reading inane posts about nothing as they come here for serious discussion. SERIOUS DICSUSSION!
Let's stop here, we are out of topic of course, but I think a reminder is very useful sometimes that we are an educational Forum.
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You are right. Lets get back into dicussion. I wonder how many portraits did MA did actually sat for during her lifetime ? Most of those seen here are done from photos or from other paintings.
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First of all sorry for the annoying posts, it won't happen again.
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Empresses/MarieFeodorovna.jpg)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Empresses/BustleMarie.jpg)
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Is the one taken below done in the south of France and was Minny in mourning ?
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It's caption is the next:
Handmade oil painting reproduction of Tsarina Maria Feodorovna 1847-1928 at the Turbie Hotel 1896, a painting by Henri Meyer.
I think that she was
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Thanks for the info. Is the Turbie Hotel is Cannes ? It would be interesting to know if the hotel isstill standing...
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I searched for some info about it but I only found that there are still hotels with this name, I wonder if the hotel where Marie Feodorovna stayed still exists and if it belongs to those hotels
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Yes. Me too. The Hotel is either in Cannes or Nice. Anybody have information can help.
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(http://i42.tinypic.com/1058evs.jpg)
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Lovely colourized photo. I often wondered what was Minny's favourite colour ?
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Is it a photo? When I saw it at first time I thought that it was a colored draw of Marie.
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its inspired in a picture but is a handtinted drawn
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Yes. It was taken after the engagement. Notice the gift of six strands of pearls.
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Yes, this session is very famous. Its easy to recognize it also for the dress and the hairdo
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Yes. She did cut her hair after Nixa died.
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With her coronation gown
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Palace/MarieAlexander.jpg)
Not totally sure if its a colored pic...
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Palace/Mariya.jpg (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Palace/Mariya.jpg)
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A photo coloured. ;)
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yes but from the era, not modern. At least not colorized using photoshop or such as.
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Yes, and that made me to doubt, it looks totally different than modern colored pics.
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its not hand colored, its just a color print.
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it shouldnt cause its her sister Alexandra of wales, with husband Edward and son Albert Victor.
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Yes, you're totally right, I got confused with the paintings!! Sorry!! :-/
The coronation: source gettyimages
Click here (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/VictorianGowns/AlexMaria.jpg)
God blessing her family
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/VictorianGowns/Makarov.jpg)
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I think it was posted before somewhere. But nice to see again. :)
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thousand of times both versions, the one with Olga and the one without olga.
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Interesting...where are the paintings now ?
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i have no idea, here s the other version
(http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9903/mmakarovinagornpropovedvk6.jpg)
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I don't think it was Minny at all...
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can you be more specific?
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Thanks ! I haven't seen that version before. :)
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Was it painted for the same painter? I'm sure it was
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i d love to see a bigger and in color version of the portrait behind. From the Smolny institute
(http://www.ringofstars.ru/across/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/010smolny2.jpg)
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i d love to see a bigger and in color version of the portrait behind.
You are not the one. That portrait had been discussed a long ago -- 4 years I think ago -- at some lost thread. More likely the painting is lost forever.
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Courtesy: foros de realeza
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Queens/Dagmar.jpg)
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Where is this now ?
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Really I don't know, I wonder if someone has the information....
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I think it was taken from an auction catalogue...
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1894 - Empress Marie Feodrovna by Francois Flameng.
(http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/28160/2061327950102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2061327950102753164yuCkSV)
This scan above is taken from an original 1913 lithograph of the painting (large size)
(http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/13586/2236663200102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2236663200102753164nxkDTb)
This scan is of the original painting, but it looks like the image was chopped down for the book. It's interesting to compare the accuracy of the lithograph against the original work. I thought people here might enjoy seeing good versions of this painting.
(http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/45074/2894197020102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2894197020102753164bAmamg)
and a large version of this image of Marie in her court dress...I'd love to see the original of this work. I know these engravings were done for 1883 magazines, which makes me think this must have been painted right after she came to the throne.
Marie wearing the same jewels as in the painting above.
(http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/44687/2440563030102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2440563030102753164TqfZIE)
Marie Feodorovna's Necklace and matching tiara. The necklace is worn in these paintings.
(http://inlinethumb51.webshots.com/5874/2650256810102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2650256810102753164UDKTkP)
(http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/407/2730864170102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2730864170102753164acvSum)
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Thanks ! It really helps when you can trace the original jewel ! What happen to this tiara/necklace ? Was it sold ?
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I love that pòrtrait of the red dress, what wonderful jewels! I also would like to know where are they nowadays...
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Thanks ! It really helps when you can trace the original jewel ! What happen to this tiara/necklace ? Was it sold ?
I think they were sold in the 1920s. These images come from the Fersman catalogue, but the pieces themselves are not listed as sold in the list Twining's book provides. Mind you, he notes that quite a few pieces were either badly described in the 1927 sale list and can't be linked back to existing images of jewels or were sold subseqently in private sales that are unrecorded. I suspect these went in a private sale and are either now broken up or languishing in some private princely collection.
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Sad...Jewels like these are meant to be seen. :(
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Young Dagmar
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Queens/BlackMaria.jpg)
Being crowned by Alexander III
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Queens/CrownAIII.jpg)
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(http://i49.tinypic.com/ezr6dj.jpg)
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Katmarx07... Thank you for the wonderful pictures... Dagmar Maria was a beautiful lady. I would love to go to Finland and also St. Petersburg.
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Celebrating the new year (1903)
Walking with Nicholas II
Maria (http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/90111284/Hulton-Archive)
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I've only seen portraits of Minnie and Sasha's wedding but does anyone know or have if there is such thing of a portrait of Minnie by herself in her wedding gown and a photography of her and Sasha after their wedding wearing their bridal uniforms?
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I haven't seen none, only the same portraits. :'-(
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Yes. There seem to be none. Although there were those of Marva.
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Yes. There seem to be none. Although there were those of Marva.
Eric, DO a prompt list of Royal nicknames and learn them by heart. It's annoying to read every time your mistakes. MaVra, not Marva. And once I told you that nickname of Elizaveta Mavrikievna was not flattering, none called her Mavra into her face, and you have no right to name her so, it's disrespectful.
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She was called that in quite a lot of books including those published by well known authors as Charlotte Zeepvat and John Wimbles. Nobody wrote back to complain that it was disrespectful.
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She was called that in quite a lot of books including those published by well known authors as Charlotte Zeepvat and John Wimbles. Nobody wrote back to complain that it was disrespectful.
If you tend to shelter yourself behind those respectable people authority, at least learn how to write correctly Royal nicknames.
Back to topic.
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Thanks ! I agree and will remember that. :)
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Dagmar
http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/oldenburg/slhkings/1847%20Dagmar-12.jpg
A bigger and prettier version
(http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/7629/2311450840094285158yqvm.jpg)
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its a different version, both based in the picture i posted in another topic ;-)
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i have no idea, here s the other version
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9903/mmakarovinagornpropovedvk6.jpg
Larger version
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2lkbul2.jpg)
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I agree, thank you, I haven't seen it as big and clear... who are the other persons with them?
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Friends and courtiers, I don't see another royal in the painting....
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Yes, they must be, but at first I was wondering who were the persons who were at the left
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Cannot tell...What is the critea for them to be put into the painting ?
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Now after seeing it more carefully I think that they perhaps are persons of the time of Jesus... but I'm not totally sure
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Or Russian Saints ?
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Marie with Nicholas, alexandra, olga and baby Tatiana
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3278/52090136snimokjjjjjj.png) (http://img143.imageshack.us/i/52090136snimokjjjjjj.png/)
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While I was searching I found one that was labeled as : Watercolor of Marie Feodorovna at 1923 at Hvidore done by Olga Alexandrovna
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalLadies/MFbyOlgaA.jpg)
Would like to see it much bigger :-)
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Marie and Alexander in austria. She s holdin kaiserin Elisabeth,
(http://i48.tinypic.com/adyrmg.jpg)
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You have one without the water marks ?
Yes...although Sisi described Minny as "looking like a monkey". ;)
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Funny that Sissi looked like monkey in her early days (or at least in that unfamous picture)
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Yes. before her recovery tranformed her into agreat beauty...
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I have never seen that of Maria and Sissi! :-0
With Alexander III
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/VictorianGowns/SashaMinny.jpg)
Empress Marie
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/VictorianGowns/TsaritsaMaria.jpg)
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Yes. I haven't seen that before either. ;)
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Fragment of a family portrait
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Empresses/MariaAlexandrovna-1.jpg)
With AIII (coronation)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Empresses/DagmarZarina.jpg)
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Minny do look like a monkey here in this portrait (like Sisi indicated ! ). ;D
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Marie in Nicholas II`s crowning
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8268/80074798bfemyqphbe6.jpg)
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She reminds me very much the one I posted below... it it the same (or inspired on it)?
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the same hairdo but defo not the same ocation. The one you posted in from her crowning
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2akmfti.jpg)
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The hairstyle of a crowned empress was the same as the marriage one (ringlets and all).
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With Alexander III and the Grand Duchess Xenia
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/VictorianLadies/Alexander3.jpg)
Detail of a portrait (so small)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/VictorianLadies/CoronacionRusia-1.jpg)
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loved the first one!!!. That gotta be from the last days of Alexander
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A little before as Xenia was still in her short dresses.
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You re right. I was thinking in Olga!!
This is one of the prettieest portraits of Marie i ve ever seen. It looks kind of modern and i know...this has been posted a thousand of times on Marie`s boards but here it wont get lost
(http://i45.tinypic.com/1zcft3p.jpg)
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Really great one Katenka!! I have never seen it before... I'm so surprised seeing all the details, even a portrait of Nicholas II with a candle, that make me to think that this was done before his death, so Marie looks in mourning... From the period of exhile?
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or even recent. I d love to know more details about it. For me it looks like a very modern portrait. It isnt an "old" style
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I think this is a "modern" painting...
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Can it be from the 20th century? I wonder if anybody knows who is the artist and exactly in what year was it painted?
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It looks very contempory after 1980 ?
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(http://i45.tinypic.com/np065t.jpg)
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Doesn't look like Dagmar... :D
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Yes. It looks prettier (and with this im not saying that Marie was ugly, but i the portrait she looks more cartoonish cute)
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Yes. the expression looks like an ad for a Gibson girl.
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I think that only a bit retouched, she looks completly like her in the next photo... (well known)
This (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Empresses/alixdagmaryoung.jpg)
Forgot to say... its so lovely! I haven't seen any portrait of this photo session
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MF pulled by a sled
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Empresses/MFWinter.jpg)
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Lovely ! A painting in Russia ?
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Arriving to Tsarkoe selo with mother in law, Maria Alexandrovna
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2urnzft.jpg)
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I think that only a bit retouched, she looks completly like her in the next photo... (well known)
This (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Empresses/alixdagmaryoung.jpg)
Forgot to say... its so lovely! I haven't seen any portrait of this photo session
Its really lovely! Her granddaughter Maria Nikolaevna looked exactly the same. Thank you for posting!
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The portait of Minny and her mother-in-law was part of a larger one ?
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I've only seen the part posted below and perhaps its the full one
Marie, AIII, (is the one of the bust AII?) and young Nicky
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalFamilies/marijafjodorovna.jpg)
Marie and little Nicky
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalFamilies/NickyMinny.jpg)
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I found this as the death of AIII. Is the lady in black MF? She doesn't look like her for me......
The Death Of The Tsar (http://www.stockphotopro.com/photo_of/Print/52647106DXB/The_death_of_Tsar)
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Yes the representation of her. I think it was from the newspaper.
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While I was searching I found one that was labeled as : Watercolor of Marie Feodorovna at 1923 at Hvidore done by Olga Alexandrovna
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalLadies/MFbyOlgaA.jpg)
Would like to see it much bigger :-)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2qi2xz6.jpg)
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About the first, yes, she must be Marie at the side of Alexander (who a part of her?)
And thanks so much for the watercolor in better size :-) And really was done by Olga Alexandrovna, I can see her signature :-0
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Olga was a very talented artist. She could have led a more relaxed life hadmshe been born now. ;)
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The lady in black could also be his widow.
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What did i miss?
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What did i miss?
Nothing.....I should have read before I opened my mouth.....thought it said AII....my bad!
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ahhh you were talking about that illustratiuon of AII in his deathbed!!. Well yes, of course she was Marie ;-)
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Indeed. But a representation and not drawn from life.
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For this... better quality?
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalFamilies/MarijaFjodorovna2.jpg)
And for this... better size?
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalFamilies/PicMaria.jpg)
Advanced thanks :-)
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I posted the last one in the previous topic of Marie
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=2172.0
Check for it there.
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That's right, I saw it like a portrait based on this (well known) photo, for being so blurry :-S
I hope that someone can find the other soon... the baby must be Nicholas...
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Its Nicholas. Its based in a picture , just like an illustration you posted yesterday.
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Yes, I'm a bit sure that it is also based totally on a photo, as you said like the other I posted
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I confirmed it. Many newspaper illustrations were based on real photos. ;)
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I confirmed it. Many newspaper illustrations were based on real photos. ;)
Early photographic processes were unsuitable for mass reproduction so newspapers and magazines had to rely on line engravings which would reproduce to a reasonable standard until almost the end of the 19th century.
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Yes. so they looked like the person more if it was based on an actual photo.
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Not Maria Fyodorovna but related to her. Guest to her coronation watching her crowningp s presents,
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2nlaa85.jpg)
Bigger
http://i27.tinypic.com/2nlaa85.jpg
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Thanks. It is rare to see an illustration of women wearing tradtional Russian court costume walking around. ;)
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I saw that portrait time before at looking for pics but never knew what it represented! Any idea of who are some of those persons?
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I confirmed it. Many newspaper illustrations were based on real photos. ;)
Early photographic processes were unsuitable for mass reproduction so newspapers and magazines had to rely on line engravings which would reproduce to a reasonable standard until almost the end of the 19th century.
Yes, you see an awful lot of engravings that came from photos. They are usually easily able to be picked up because of the accuracy of the image and in comparison to exisiting photos. I sometimes see engravings and wonder when the original photo will turn up on the board. One image I've been hoping will appear for years is the wedding photo of Grand Duchess Elizabeth and Grand Duke Sergei. The engraving for the wedding pair is so accurate in portraiture etc that I'm sure it was done of a photograph.
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I know which one you are talking about. I don't know why Marva had a wedding photograph in her dress and jewels but not Ella ?
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I know which one you are talking about. I don't know why Marva had a wedding photograph in her dress and jewels but not Ella ?
You did it again. MAVRA. Not MaRva. Is it so difficult to remember? Probably you don't care what you type - for typing's sake - but other DO care what they type and what they say at our Forums. Your mistakes can direct ignorant posters to the wrong way.
And one thing always amazes me - you do try hard to show us you are a historian and a researcher but with most of your typing mistakes,speculating without giving sources and and millions of pointless posts...historians don't look like that, IMO.
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Sorry about the typing error. Do anyone know why Ella does not have a wedding photo ? Minny did have a painting about her marriage.
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Sorry about the typing error. Do anyone know why Ella does not have a wedding photo ? Minny did have a painting about her marriage.
as far as I'm aware none has been seen of Ella...but this is not really the area to discuss this further. It was just speculation on my part, and maybe wishful thinking. I've seen a lot of engravings for Dagmar's wedding but I don't think I've seen a full formal painting like the one that was done for Nicholas and Alexandra. The engravings I've seen are usually large scale ones of processions and banquets etc that don't look they have been worked up from photos Photos for any of the Imperial weddings are scarce, especially with the bride & bridegroom dressed in their wedding clothes.
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Well...There are at least three photos. Grand Duchess Helen, Grand Duchess Marie Paulovna the younger and Grand Duchess Constantine of Russia. The painting on Minny's wedding is posted somewhere.
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And one thing always amazes me - you do try hard to show us you are a historian and a researcher but with most of your typing mistakes,speculating without giving sources and and millions of pointless posts...historians don't look like that, IMO.
Yes my point entirely. Yet he continues, year after year... post after post.... without making any effort to change his practise...it's very sad.
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I don't think Queen Olga, Minny's sister -in-law has a wedding portrait as well.
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Posted before in black and white, now in color...
Alexander III crowning Marie
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Queens/DagmarColor.jpg)
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Lovely...If only it could be bigger...
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Tha one was posted in bigger somewhere in this forum. ood luck in the searchin!
Illustration based in a photoraphy (or two!)
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5483/070600.jpg) (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/070600.jpg/)
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Grandmother Marie
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalLadies/FamilRuss.jpg)
Even bigger: here (http://www.russian-antique.com/Romanov-Coronation/1006/The-Romanov-Family-in-1895-1896.html)
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It looks like a cartooon while the rest looks awesome! xDDD
Maria and a hideous gown
(http://i28.tinypic.com/egzc6h.jpg)
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Looks like satin and the kind we wore in our Christmas plays. :D
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The dress was beatiful, but the artist draw Dagmar with a very ugly expression. She was much beatiful than that...
RealAnastasia.
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The dress is awful and thats weird in MArie since she had a great sense of fashion.
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Indeed I agree. Dagmar would not be caught dead in that dress... ;)
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I like the dress! However, that HAT.......
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Based on a famous photo: Dagmar and Alix
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/VictorianLadies/TwoSistersDraw.jpg)
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Fragment of a coronation portrait
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Royals/maria2.jpg)
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Posted before in black and white, now in color...
Alexander III crowning Marie (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Queens/DagmarColor.jpg)
Lovely...If only it could be bigger...
Here is it, only that it has a watermark
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Royals/2457.jpg)
Courtsey: history illustrated
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its here somewhere without the watermark. I ll check out
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Without watermark
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk70/Stella_sabata/Harker-%20Fitzpatrick/dagmar.jpg)
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I think this is one of a series of official scenes of the coronation in 1883 that was reproduced in the imperial souvenir book of the coronation for the imperial family. (these books are rare and were only produced in small numbers after each coronation) There is one of them in the NY public library, where most of these pictures come from. You can order copies of the pictures, but they aren't that cheap...especially for international orders. Here's a couple more from the book.
(http://i52.tinypic.com/29f2zhe.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/mhbrdt.jpg)
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Yup, the one i posted came from there.
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Oh! It's a very nice surprise to see this unmarked Katyusha!! And Kathy your pics are quite good too, it's a real pity to know that the book isn't so easy to get (for the high prize), thanks for sharing XD
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1865- the grand duke and duchess of Russia
(http://i52.tinypic.com/nqe80z.jpg)
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1865- the grand duke and duchess of Russia
She is still Prss of Denmark there.
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so she is....now I look at it again. Thank you.
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The groom beside her looked more like Nixa than Sasha...
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An etching of a watercolour painting of Marie by Mlle. Kraneskoi that was exhibited in the Women's Building, 1893 Exposition in Chicago that I haven't seen before.
(http://i56.tinypic.com/29vctpc.jpg)
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New for me too and very beautiful painting :)
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I wonder if anyone here has ever seen a good copy of this picture? It was painted by Franz Xavier Winterhalter -- the details are below:
Grand Duchess Maria Feodorovna of Russia (1847-1928, later Empress of Russia) & her sister, Alexandra, The Princess of Wales (1844-1925, later Queen of Great Britain), née Princesses of Denmark, 1868, Paris
Watercolour over pencil, 29 x 21.5 cm
Signed and dated, bottom left: Fr Winterhalter / 1868,
Private Collection
(http://i54.tinypic.com/282wz8.jpg)
I found it at http://www.bvram.com/WH/WH.html which has turned out to be a pretty stunning resource for Winterhalter.
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That is news to me...Looks lovely. Thanks for the info. ;)
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Really fascinating! Isn't there a bigger one?
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We are all holding our beathe for it...I wonder who owned it ? :-\
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Really fascinating! Isn't there a bigger one?
I wish I knew where to find a bigger version. I'd never even heard of it till yesterday when I stumbled across this small image. I wouldn't be surprised if it could be found in some old auction catalogue somewhere, but if so, I've never seen it.
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Yes. But who owns the original painting ?
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It says Private Collection, so I am assuming they do not want to be known owning that picture.......
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Well...Maybe we have to wait until if the owners do sell it... :(
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I have been looking for that image in a proper size for quite some time with no luck.
I, as Katy, found it in that wonderful catalogue of Mr Reisberg.
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Needs investigting this case...It wasn't even in the catalogue for the Wintalter book...
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Needs investigting this case...It wasn't even in the catalogue for the Wintalter book...
Mr Reisberg's online catalogue clearly shows that the "Winterhalter and the courts of europe" exhibition only showed a fraction of Winterhalter's work. It's not surprising that this painting has not seen the light of day in a major exhibition when you see all the other ones in the catalogue that also have never been seen. We are just lucky that there is this little image that will enable use to ID it if we find it unlabelled elsewhere.
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I truly hope so. I am a fan of Winterhalter.
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Posted this before but in black and white, now in color
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Royals/TheIF.jpg)
Grandma Marie
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A very nice version of the image Sissi. It's been well painted, do you know who the artist is? Thank you for sharing it with us.
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You're welcome Kathy!! Yes, now I see that it was a colored pic!!! XD I have any idea of who is the artist
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Painting made by Maria .1868
(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/876/1868minnie.jpg) (http://img63.imageshack.us/i/1868minnie.jpg/)
A drawn . 1862
(http://img-kiev.fotki.yandex.ru/get/4506/sergeenkoff-artem.2d/0_3fccf_c2365609_orig)
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Lovely painting amd sketch. Minny was talented. I don't think Alix or Thyra painted...
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The first of the pictures looks really great. She was talented. No; I think that Alix didn't paint and Thyra neither. But, am I wrong or Alix culd draw quite well? Matbe I'm mistaken her to another one... :-\
RealAnastasia.
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I think that they were all tought to paint when younger - by well known artists from what I have read - It was a skill expected of young, aristocratic ladies in the period. However only Ella and Empress Marie and Olga Alexandrovna seem to have carried on lessons into adulthood. You sometimes see paintings they have done and they are very good and a credit to their teachers. I'm sure I've seen some pictures of paintings done by Alexandra on postcards in watercolour for friends in the early years of her marriage and they were very good paintings, but I don't recall ever seeing an oil painting by her....but she did do embroidery and sold it for charity at various events.
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Ducky also painted and so did Thora & Baby Bee. It was one of the things Princesses do.
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Talking about paintings cone by Marie, I found on a site the two well known and this that I haven't seen before
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Queens/madebyminnie.jpg)
She was quite good!! XD
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She was pretty good!!
here a draw of a little boy made also by her. 1862
(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9812/minnie1862.jpg) (http://img222.imageshack.us/i/minnie1862.jpg/)
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Ducky also painted and so did Thora & Baby Bee. It was one of the things Princesses do.
Yes. Almost all Princesses were taught how to paint...but very few of them painted as talented artist. Olga Alexandrovna and her mother Minnie, really impressed me by their artistic works.
I've read that Queen Marie Leczkynska of France was "taught" to paint this way: a famous artists made a draw for her and showed the Queen what kind of colours the painting was supposed to have...The results were so awful that no ne wanted to hang Marie's paintings on their walls...not even the best of her friends. The Queen was ofended by the fact. But even if she was taught "how to", she couldn't become an artist. Technics and lessons are imprtant for art, but if you are not an artist they will not help you to achieve a good painting.
RealAnastasia.
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Young Grand Duchess Marie
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Queens/jovendagmar.jpg)
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Young Marie
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Empresses/mariaf.jpg)
Different verssion of a famous painting
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Empresses/mariafeodorovna.jpg)
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Marie in mourning
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalLadies/mariemourrning.jpg)
Coronation
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalLadies/coronacion.jpg)
With AIII
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalLadies/corona.jpg)
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The middle one is from "The Sphere".
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Close up of the Tuxen` s portrait
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4062/74008466993128986261864.jpg)
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My, her dress is beautiful, but what a tiny waist! :o ;)
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They wore corsets to have a tiny waist. I think her niece Maud had a very tiny waist too.
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I knew about the corsets, of course.
EDIT: I looked up Maud, and she did have a very small waist! But Sissi's, I think, wins the prize for the smallest waist. ;)
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Well...Look at what the poor woman had to go through to get that. Can you stomach meat juice ? Her husband Franz Josef usually looked away when he saw what she actually "eats". Indeed Maud was famous for her tiny waist and her clothes proved it. ;)
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Well...Look at what the poor woman had to go through to get that. Can you stomach meat juice ? Her husband Franz Josef usually looked away when he saw what she actually "eats". Indeed Maud was famous for her tiny waist and her clothes proved it. ;)
Meat juice! Ugh! I would not like to be Sisi...
Back on the topic of Marie Feodrovna, I also really like the black and white portrait voyageroffreedom posted. :)
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(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5045/5269800290_1a84cb4577.jpg)
Nixa and Princess Dagmar.
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(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5163/bigpic1118081808korolev.jpg)
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Where does this image comes from ? A book ? A bookmark ?
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Olgasha this is very beautiful!! :-)
Found this as Nixa and Dagmar
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalLadies/dagmarnixa.jpg)
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Dagmar and Tsarevich Nicholas
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3182/0491ad1a232581xl.jpg)
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They look like figures on plates.
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I haven't seen that posted below, thank you!
Talking about Tuxen's portraits, this close up of Marie on the painting of Nicholas and Alexandra's wedding is lovely
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalLadies/detailmarie.jpg)
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Her look of distress is unmistakenable.
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Distress??
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Yes...she was actually crying throughout the ceremony.
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Well, why?
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Her husband's death was still on her mind.
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(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/5985/saszkaminny2.jpg)
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Marie Feodorovna in a family portrait
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/nichruss.jpg)
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The Empress in her coronation robes (a bit blurry)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/VictorianGowns/tsaritsaminnie.jpg)
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It is obviously based on this photograph:
http://otma.blog.cz/galerie/nikolaj-a-alexandra/maly-nicky#45975902
It is not idealized, it is based on a formal photograph.
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Yes. It is based in the pic you posted above, but the facial features of Minnie and Nicholas are harder than in the photo and te Empress face looks somewhat fat and swollen in the "cotemporary picture".
RealAnastasia.
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(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9886/23271839296522m750x740u.jpg)
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Miniature of Maria from the Royal collection (and found thanks her group on facebook)
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(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs050.snc6/168022_10150095826958987_261864943986_6139473_4540113_n.jpg)
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This is one of the nicest portraits about Marie that I've ever seen, based on her famous photo with sister Alexandra!! ::)
I was wondering if someone has a good verssion of this...
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalLadies/po2_std.jpg)
Advanced Thanks!! ;)
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(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/4747/mffo.jpg)
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Those were posted before but a bit smaller, I found them a bit bigger so I made a pair of close ups of Marie with AIII
At the theater
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/AncientRoyalty/MariyaFyodorovnaNAleksandrIII.jpg)
Walking together
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/AncientRoyalty/MariyaISasha.jpg)
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(http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/48564/2507194270102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2507194270102753164pdNQVS)
Painting of Maria Feodorovna and her sister Alexandra
1868 signed and dated by Winterhalter. Watercolour over pencil
size 29 x 21.50 cm
Sold by Sotheby's "early english drawings and victorian watercolours" 25th January 1988
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Finally this one in bigger!!! Thanks!!
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It's a beatiful drawing!
RealAnastasia.
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A dream!!!! This design, besides being beautiful is also unprecedented. Thanks
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Thank you, thank you very much for posting that incredibly beautiful portrait!!! I love it very much ♥♥♥ I think that it's one of their best portraits at youth!!
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Thank you, thank you very much for posting that incredibly beautiful portrait!!! I love it very much ♥♥♥ I think that it's one of their best portraits at youth!!
You are welcome. It took a bit of work to track it down though...
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1883 portrait of Marie and Alexander published in Le Journal Illustree in a coronation issue.
(http://inlinethumb14.webshots.com/45645/2563736420102753164S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2563736420102753164VOctdi)
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Talking about likeness 0....
Alexander does look like Alexander, but Maria....hmm.
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Talking about likeness 0....
Alexander does look like Alexander, but Maria....hmm.
Yes, I agree. A very generic "pretty" Marie that doesn't look terribly like her, but it's one of the better depictions of her coronation dress I've seen in print.
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A bigger image of this not so pretty portrait
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5434/dfvasdf.jpg)
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Dagmar in 1883
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7153/dagmar1883eorig.jpg)
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Another portrait that was auctioned off ?
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Two old prints from the well known ILN:
The engagement of Princess Dagmar
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/AncientRoyalty/Dagmarengagement.jpg)
Princess Dagmar arriving to Peterhoff
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/AncientRoyalty/Dagmararrival.jpg)
The second a bit bigger Here!! (http://www.old-print.com/mas_assets/full2/P1491866/P1491866405.jpg)
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Print of the family
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Old%20Days/rusia.jpg)
Portrait of MF alone
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Old%20Days/minnie.jpg)
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The print above was based on a photo. The one below is very interesting. dates I guess from the early days of the marriage.
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The print above was based on a photo. The one below is very interesting. dates I guess from the early days of the marriage.
I think that you're right, it shows a very young Dagmar... if I'm not wrong the painting is based on this (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/RoyalLadies/dagmaria-1.jpg) well known photo, the dress is totally the same!
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A nice one. I ignore the artist
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3641/droa0001.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/droa0001.jpg/)
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I think this is also based on a photo. Dagmar looks a bit flirtatious in her smile here...not very empress like. :-)
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I think that they were all tought to paint when younger - by well known artists from what I have read - It was a skill expected of young, aristocratic ladies in the period. However only Ella and Empress Marie and Olga Alexandrovna seem to have carried on lessons into adulthood. You sometimes see paintings they have done and they are very good and a credit to their teachers.
When Marie came to Russia in 1866, one of the leading Russian artists of that time, Alexei Bogolyubov, was invited to become her private tutor. A master of battle scenes and seascapes, Bogolyubov made an important contribution to the development of Impressionism and plein-air painting in Russia. But he did not teach Marie Feodorovna painting, perspective or plein-air in the same way that he taught these disciplines at the Imperial Academy of Arts in St Petersburg in the 1860s (or, later, in Paris in the early 1870s). He simply curated the grand duchess's independent drawing and painting activities, confining his instructions to friendly words and advice. Such guidance and hints were also given by Bogolyubov to Alexander III, who similarly enjoyed drawing and painting. Marie was an accomplished artist in her own right before she came to Russia.
Works by Marie are scattered over a few museums in Russia. The Museum of Fine Arts of the Republic of Karelia owns two small still-lifes (1868, 1869, one is reproduced below from page 19 of this thread) and one watercolour of a miser (1890), which were all shown at the Princess Dagmar - Empress Marie Feodorovna exhibition, which opened in the Royal Silver Room of Christiansborg Palace in Copenhagen in September 1997.
These works were acquired by the Museum of Fine Arts of the Republic of Karelia in 1960. Before then, they had belonged to the Karelian Museum of Local Studies. Their provenance can be traced back to the Leningrad State Museum Fund, to whom they belonged until 1928. The State Museum Fund acquired them from the Anichkov Palace after the revolution.
Interestingly, in the inventories of the Karelian Museum of Local Studies dating from the 1930s, the stretchers of the two still-lifes are described as having labels inscribed "City Museum. Historical Premises of the Anichkov Palace." This suggests that they were good enough to have been exhibited in the 1920s at the Leningrad City Museum.
Several other works by the empress have since come to light. Portrait of Grigory the Coachman (1870) was discovered in the collection of the State Russian Museum in St Petersburg. Some fifty drawings and watercolours dating from the late 1850s and early 1860s belong to the State Archive of the Russian Federation in Moscow.
Painting made by Maria .1868
(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/876/1868minnie.jpg) (http://img63.imageshack.us/i/1868minnie.jpg/)
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One of MF's official portraits
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/1910-2.jpg)
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I think they may all be based upon one sitting as the dress and jewels looked very similar.
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Lovely drawing, MF and AIII on a ship
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Old%20Days/sashaminnie.jpg)
Source: statehistory.ru
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They were one devoted couple.
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And this is a very rare painting. I've never seen it before...
RealAnastasia.
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And this is a very rare painting. I've never seen it before...
RealAnastasia.
That's a watercolour by M.Zichy. The Imperial Couple in 1888 year, on their way to the Caucasus.
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Is it still in the museum ?
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Is it still in the museum ?
At the Hermitage Museum stock.
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Thanks. Was the print published in the newspapers ?
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Thanks. Was the print published in the newspapers ?
Some of Zichy's works were published in the press, but I can't say exactly about that watercolour -that's quite an unofficial image.
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Thanks for the info. :)
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A pair of close ups from another lovely watercolour done by Zichy depicting MF with her husband
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Old%20Days/AIII1.jpg)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Old%20Days/AIII.jpg)
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Very nice drawings they are...
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Forgot to say, according with the caption they were at Spala, 1894
Another, hunting at Bialowiezia (!?), same year (by Zichy too)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Vintage%20Dreams/AIII2.jpg)
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In the last drawing, one could see Nicholas (their son) with Marie and Alexander.
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From a Russian site. Engagement
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Vintage%20Dreams/engagementcard.jpg)
Click here for bigger!! (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Vintage%20Dreams/engagementcard.jpg)
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The image looked so strange colored.
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Don't remember to see this before, young MF (any idea if this is the full painting or no?)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/Vintage%20Dreams/jovendagmar.jpg)
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Love to see the full painting too.
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Based on a well known photo of her, still Princess Dagmar of Denmark
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/AncientRoyalty/DagmsrEmpress.jpg)
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she was already being courted by Nixa at that point...
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From a Russian site, cartoon depicting MF and AIII -who is being called paranoid-.
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/Bishop-poster_NewYork-72dpi.jpg)
Click here for bigger!!! (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/Bishop-poster_NewYork-72dpi.jpg)
Source:magicpedia.ru
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Totally new to me, thank you!
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That is very interesting. What year was it printed ?
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the date is in the top corner
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Thanks. The resemblance is pretty good.
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Close up of a coronation drawing, Empress Marie Feodorovna embraces Nicholas II, Empress Alexandra is behind them. I wonder if that scene means something, I remember one similar drawing about the coronation of AII, his mother Alexandra Feodorovna is embracing he in the same way. I even thought that was the same portrait!
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/Capturaee96.jpg)
Source: the Russian site g-to-g.com
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****The credits for all the images are for the italian site tipsimages.it****
Again, Empress Marie Feodorovna embraces her son
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/MFAFNII.jpg)
Crying at the side of AIII's deathbed
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/WidowMF.jpg)
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Nice etchings...better than those from ILN.
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I think the top one IS from the ILN. Tipsimages.it just gathers photos, etc...from those sites.
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Not sure. I saw both images of the same subject from ILN, and they were not as detailed as these.
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Illustration of AIII and MF, detail from a bigger verssion. Source: ÖNB
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/MFyAIII1_zpsa7ede636.jpg)
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The one of Dagmar wasn;t very good on the likeness.
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Earlier in this thread it was posted a portrait of Marie Feodorovna painted by Emil' Vizel. But later the image was removed. Do anyone know anything about this painting? Where is it now?
http://www.gogmsite.net/russian-style-in-the-bustle/princess-dagmar-of-denmark-/1900-maria-feodorovna-by-vi.html
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Not sure. But it was well known that it was based on a photograph.
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Earlier in this thread it was posted a portrait of Marie Feodorovna painted by Emil' Vizel. But later the image was removed. Do anyone know anything about this painting? Where is it now?
http://www.gogmsite.net/russian-style-in-the-bustle/princess-dagmar-of-denmark-/1900-maria-feodorovna-by-vi.html
Dear colleagues! Maybe someone saw this portrait somewhere? I really need any information about it.
(http://www.gogmsite.net/_Media/maria_feodorovna_based_on-4.jpeg)
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Based on a photograph.
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Thank you, Eric!
It would be so great to learn where is this painting now!
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Earlier in this thread it was posted a portrait of Marie Feodorovna painted by Emil' Vizel. But later the image was removed. Do anyone know anything about this painting? Where is it now?
http://www.gogmsite.net/russian-style-in-the-bustle/princess-dagmar-of-denmark-/1900-maria-feodorovna-by-vi.html
Dear colleagues! Maybe someone saw this portrait somewhere? I really need any information about it.
(http://www.gogmsite.net/_Media/maria_feodorovna_based_on-4.jpeg)
According to a book on MF I have this portrait is painted by E. Wiesel in 1905 and is in the Pavlovsk Museums. I hope this helps.
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Yes! It definitely helps!! Thank you!
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Don't think the portrait is that good. Minny looked sad and forlorn in the picture.
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Don't think the portrait is that good. Minny looked sad and forlorn in the picture.
I think it might have been done mostly from photos, but its one of the few formal paintings of her in full court dress you can find. At least one other one was painted in the 1880s but I've never seen the painted version, only prints.
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/be/05/e6/be05e62cfadaa7783a5e0e0d42ffad5d.jpg
though having said that you can see the painted version on the wall in a painting done of the red salon in the winter palace (look at page 122 of "moscow, splendors of the romanovs".)
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katmaxoz, you mentioned the book on MF I, can you specify please what book was that?
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katmaxoz, you mentioned the book on MF I, can you specify please what book was that?
Empress Maria Fiodorovna - (no specific author) Albris Publishers, St Petersburg, 2006 ISBN: 5-88810-071-4
and a copy for sale here
http://www.eastview.com/russian/books/product.asp?sku=775974B&f_locale=&Barkovets/A/I/Sankt/Peterburg/Russia/English/
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Russian ?
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Russian ?
english version
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(http://www.picatom.com/2a/0_a5291_3d491ebd_XXXL-1-th.jpg) (http://www.picatom.com/2a/0_a5291_3d491ebd_XXXL-1.html)
About 1890-1892
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They painted her sad in the paintings.
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Empress MF with her children (except Ksenia) and daughter in law, Empress Alexandra. Image enlarged and edited by me.
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/MFchildren_zpsc480f2c4.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/MFchildren_zpsc480f2c4.jpg.html)
Credits: here! (http://www.rusderjavnaya.info/archive_old/2006/10/a_0610189.htm)
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Where is Ksenia ?
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Not there, obviously, as Yelena said....
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Well...She was still part of the IF...especially since she did not leave Russia like eg. Ellen.
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Young MF
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/YoungMF_zps4b5bcfc3.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/YoungMF_zps4b5bcfc3.jpg.html)
Source and rights: Dom Romanovij (http://www.nlr.ru/res/refer/romanov/article.php?num=254)
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*****Source: From wise-cat's gallery (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/wise-cat/date/2012-06-17) at Yandex.ru*****
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/Darling%20Sissi/minnie_zpse77a6a9d.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/Darling%20Sissi/minnie_zpse77a6a9d.jpg.html)
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She liked to be painted with that necklace.
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I wasn't sure where to post this pic...
*****Source: Dom Romanovij, www.nlr.ru (http://www.nlr.ru)****
Young Marie Feodorovna
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/domromanovij_zps07297b4b.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/domromanovij_zps07297b4b.jpg.html)
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I recently bought a copy of the 19th May 1883 Issue of the French magazine l'Illustration. It has a lovely etching of Empress Marie Feodorovna in her coronation dress on the cover - a rather scarce illustration that I've only ever seen in one other magazine of the period The Queen, the lady's newspaper. However what interested me about this particular etching was the information underneath the picture where it states that the engraving was after a photo by M. Bergamsco of St Petersburg.
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2v99121.jpg)
(etching in L'illustration)
This leads me to believe that the often stated fact that no photos of MF and Alexander were taken in their coronation robes may be incorrect. I have always been puzzled by the sheer amount of detail the etcher has given the dress in this engraving - and one other one I think is sourced from the same photo session shown here - and this may answer the question as to why the dress seems so accurate in these images where often the results are very vague in these engravings. I think MF face may have been "prettied" up a bit in the etchings though.
(http://i57.tinypic.com/zirlae.jpg)
(etching in Le Journal Illustre 3 June 1883)
(http://i62.tinypic.com/21orf4m.jpg)
(MF actual dress in Kremlin - the designs seem somewhat different from Etchings - though I don't really have a good detail photo of this dress)
I'm also inclined think that at least one photo may have been taken of GD Elizabeth and Serge in their wedding outfits based on the quality and sheer amount of detail in this engraving.
(http://i60.tinypic.com/jt1hqu.jpg)
(I think the source for this image is a Russian newspaper)
Any thoughts?
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The GD Sergei's and his spouse wedding's sketch is indeed from a newspaper Vsemirnaya Illustratsiya. The description under the photo in that source says the original is not a photo, but just a sketch.
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The GD Sergei's and his spouse wedding's sketch is indeed from a newspaper Vsemirnaya Illustratsiya. The description under the photo in that source says the original is not a photo, but just a sketch.
That's interesting. I've always thought the detail and accuracy of this etching makes it rather suspicious that the source was an actual photo. It wasn't uncommon in this period for the source of newspaper images to to be etched from photos. Ones that were done from sketches on location tend to be rather vague on details, or completely wrong, with costume at least.
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(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9061/65455487.da/0_1e7167_3d4bc555_orig)
https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9061/65455487.da/0_1e7167_3d4bc555_orig
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(https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4137/65455487.c9/0_1d22c7_c0199dc8_orig)
https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4137/65455487.c9/0_1d22c7_c0199dc8_orig
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The paintings were all based on photos...
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Welcoming Tsarevich Alexander to Copenhagen
(http://upyourpic.org/images/201405/6j72co24r1.jpg)
Source: http://ipola.ru/post339584565
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(http://upyourpic.org/images/201405/mjeitnrybx.jpg)
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(http://cs314616.vk.me/v314616214/6c8f/lPlE5yMyDiI.jpg)
(http://cs314616.vk.me/v314616214/6caa/eQqixo0xJt0.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7436/11287083724_486a0ab59f_b.jpg)
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Don't remember seeing this in color before, credits on the image.
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/AIIIMinnie_zpspku3769g.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/AIIIMinnie_zpspku3769g.jpg.html)
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Empress Sissi receiving Empress Marie Feodorovna in August 25th, 1885.
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/1885%20Sissi%20da%20bienvenida%20a%20MF_zpsmaxuoyxr.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/1885%20Sissi%20da%20bienvenida%20a%20MF_zpsmaxuoyxr.jpg.html)
Credits and source on the image.
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Who is the boy with Marie? He's too old for Mikhail, I think, and too young for Nicholas. Could it be George?
Ann
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Empress Sissi receiving Empress Marie Feodorovna in August 25th, 1885.
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/1885%20Sissi%20da%20bienvenida%20a%20MF_zpsmaxuoyxr.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/1885%20Sissi%20da%20bienvenida%20a%20MF_zpsmaxuoyxr.jpg.html)
Credits and source on the image.
Elisabeth wrote in her Diary that Dagmar looked like a monkey...
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Empress Sissi receiving Empress Marie Feodorovna in August 25th, 1885.
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingCharlotte/1885%20Sissi%20da%20bienvenida%20a%20MF_zpsmaxuoyxr.jpg) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinCharlotte/media/DarlingCharlotte/1885%20Sissi%20da%20bienvenida%20a%20MF_zpsmaxuoyxr.jpg.html)
Credits and source on the image.
Elisabeth wrote in her Diary that Dagmar looked like a monkey...
Which ads another reason to why I dislike Sisi.
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Who is the boy with Marie? He's too old for Mikhail, I think, and too young for Nicholas. Could it be George?
Ann
Unfortunately the site where I saved the pic did not add more info than the same caption that I wrote here. The boy definitely can't be Nicholas (who would be 17 years old, very old), but is also very young for being George who was 14 in 1885. But Michael was 7 years old in that year and I think that is the one who fits more with the boy of the picture, IMO.
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More images of Empress Marie Feodorovna during the 1885 visit to the Austrian Imperial couple.
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/MF_zpsts1rywrz.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/MF_zpsts1rywrz.jpg.html)
Here with Empress Sissi... who had a very sharp tongue.
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/sissiyMF_zpsyqzdoery.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/sissiyMF_zpsyqzdoery.jpg.html)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/KaiserinAlzbeta/DarlingCharlotte/sissiyMF2_zpsauivwxg7.jpg) (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/KaiserinAlzbeta/media/DarlingCharlotte/sissiyMF2_zpsauivwxg7.jpg.html)
>>Images taken from the great erzsebet-kiralyne. blog<<
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Marie Fyodorovna in her coronation robes
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/640ff31af58be9b35327c558ec27de4a/tumblr_o5zk00we6S1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
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Wow! Was Maria Fyodorovna Nicholas's mother?
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Artist Ella Taylor being presented to the Queen of Denmark at St James’s Palace, 1863
Princess Mary on left with Prince Waldemar. In centre, the Queen Louise of Denmark with the Duchess of Cambridge, and Ella Taylor seen from behind. On right, Princess Dagmar and Princess Thyra of Denmark.
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/dd3f999314a34754340a49733076d96e/tumblr_olke5cY3Tf1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/8c430e9eec06db1544376181bf1027a8/tumblr_olke5cY3Tf1rh07xwo2_540.jpg)
Courtesy of Royal Collection Trust
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(http://nd06.jxs.cz/476/212/6741670a28_104025918_o2.jpg)
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Portrait of Dowager Empress Maria Fyodorovna by Vasily Ivanovich Zuev, 1903
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/8a1acd1bc9eb881b7cbd6625f2a71a59/tumblr_ox1sjnxyBd1rh07xwo1_1280.jpg)
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(https://pp.userapi.com/c841136/v841136289/1eeeb/IW3l9hCfqdA.jpg)
(https://pp.userapi.com/c840122/v840122289/3386b/oGR40Q356Kc.jpg)
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http://adini-nikolaevna.tumblr.com/image/170659416565 (http://adini-nikolaevna.tumblr.com/image/170659416565)
Maria Feodorovna with her sister, Alexandra.