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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => Italian Royal Families => Topic started by: gleb on June 23, 2005, 11:17:30 AM

Title: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: gleb on June 23, 2005, 11:17:30 AM

I think the Queen Elena is worth of a personal thread.

This topic is so intended to be a sort of Album of Her life.


Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: gleb on June 23, 2005, 11:19:48 AM

Formal portraits:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/gleb/Savoia/ele_f-c-20.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: gleb on June 23, 2005, 11:20:11 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/gleb/Savoia/e-f-k-20.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on June 24, 2005, 10:32:33 AM
She was 1,74cm tall and her husband was 1,56cm or 1,58cm tall.
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on June 24, 2005, 06:53:50 PM
Yes,because Montenegro was an Orthodox country,and she was Lutheran and yet a Crown Princess of a very religious people,so she had to change her religion!If you were reading any book about Queen Elena you might have noticed that there were quite a few problems with her family because she also changed her religion and became a Catholic!Her mother Queen Milena did not even participate the wedding because of that,and it was aranged for her to change her religion on a boat between Montenegro and Italia,and not in Italia!
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: crazy_wing on June 24, 2005, 08:37:23 PM
Elena's children

1. Yolanda Margherita 1901-1986
   m. Count Giorgio Calvi di Bergolo 1887-1977

2. Mafalda  1902-1944
   m. Landgrave Philip of Hesse-Cassel 1896-1980

3. King Umberto II of Italy 1904-1983
   m. Princess Marie Jose of Belgium 1906-2001

4. Giovanna 1907-2000
   m. King Boris III of Bulgaria 1894-1943

5. Maria 1914-2001
   m. Prince Louis of Bourbon-Parma 1899-1967
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Prince_Christopher on June 25, 2005, 01:11:16 PM
When did Elena die? I notice all of her children except for unfortunate Mafalda had long lives.
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Robert_Hall on June 25, 2005, 01:59:15 PM
Why cannot she be buried in Italy [the Pantheon ?], the living Savoys have been allowed to return ? Does this mean that Umberto II and his father VEIII are still buried outside of Italy ?
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: gleb on June 26, 2005, 07:14:49 AM
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Why cannot she be buried in Italy [the Pantheon ?], the living Savoys have been allowed to return ? Does this mean that Umberto II and his father VEIII are still buried outside of Italy ?


this is true: Umberto II and Maria Josè are in the chapel of Hautecombe (Savoy), where are buried many medieval Savoia.

VE III is in the church of  Santa Caterina, Alexandria of Egypt, Queen Elena is in France....

They all should be buried in the Pantheon with the other Kings of Italy (VE II, Umberto I and Margherita).

Or at least in Turin, in the royal Chapel of Superga, where are all the other Savoia (Dukes, Kings of Sardinia, Carlo Alberto, Maria Pia of Portugal...). Also the recent ones, such as Irene of Greece...
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: gleb on June 26, 2005, 07:18:27 AM
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was Queen Elena popular in her adopted country??


She was one of the most loved Queens. Even if her husband is still very criticized nobody ever spoke about her unrespectfully.

She spent the whole life helping the poors!
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on June 26, 2005, 05:04:13 PM
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/auersperg23/ElenaMont.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: amedeo on July 19, 2005, 03:52:33 AM

Queen Elena not only was popular, she was beloved, italians soon understood they could completely trust this marvellious woman who used to spend all her civil list to help poor people.

About this, there is a funny anedocte, one day Vittorio Emanuele III was walking in the gardens of Villa Savoia, with his gardener.
At a certain point the King tells the gardener something like "You know everybody says I am stingy (mean), but I must be so, if I weren't, with all the money that the Queen spends for her poors, We would go to rack and ruin".

For all these reasons Queen Elena was given the Golden Rose of Christianity.
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on August 16, 2005, 05:58:29 PM
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/breezer22/ElenaIt.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on August 16, 2005, 05:59:51 PM
Regina Elena as a child...
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on August 16, 2005, 06:00:20 PM
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/breezer22/Elena1.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on August 16, 2005, 06:01:27 PM
Elena still as Princess of Montenegro!
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on August 16, 2005, 06:02:26 PM
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/breezer22/Elena2.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on August 16, 2005, 06:04:20 PM
Portrait of Elena by Raffaelle Buongiovanni!This portrait is still in her mothers bedroom in royal palace of Montenegro!
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on August 16, 2005, 06:04:45 PM
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/breezer22/Elena3.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on August 16, 2005, 06:06:16 PM
Mosaic of Elena by G.Triaca made out of gold also from the palace in Montenegro!
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on August 16, 2005, 06:06:36 PM
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/breezer22/Savoia2.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on August 16, 2005, 06:08:18 PM
Portrait of Queen Elena and her family witch hangs in her mothers reciveing room!
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: gogm on April 29, 2007, 06:07:38 PM
Here are some of Elena:
(http://inlinethumb58.webshots.com/4409/2617319770094285158S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2617319770094285158QLpvox)

(http://inlinethumb55.webshots.com/4342/2755918090094285158S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2755918090094285158vbrndy)

Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: KarlandZita on May 05, 2007, 05:04:49 AM



Re Victor Emmanuel III :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/v3.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/ve3bis.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/kingv3.jpg)


Re Victor Emmanuel III e Regina Elena in automobile :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/reregina.jpg)


La Regina Elena :


(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/reginait.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/reginael.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/reginaelena1.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: grandduchessella on May 05, 2007, 03:15:11 PM
A great book for photos is Casa Savoia by Princess Marie Gabrielle. I got an old Illustrazione from Margherita's death and funeral. It had tons of great photos, including some from her childhood. If I get my scanner up and working (it keeps shutting my computer down  :( ) I'll try to scan & post some. Margherita is one of my favorites.
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: veu-1 on May 13, 2007, 04:29:32 PM
Queen Elena:

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/breezer22/ElenaIt.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/breezer22/Elena1.jpg)

Queen Elena, King Vittorio Emanuele III, their son Umberto II, their daughters Jolanda, Mafalda and Giovanna:

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/breezer22/Savoia2.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: KarlandZita on July 08, 2007, 05:46:41 AM
La Regina Elena :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/el7.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/qeym.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/el1.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/eoi.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Luc on September 04, 2008, 02:59:47 PM
A time ago I read Elena was fond of fishing. Does anyone have photos of her when she's fishing ?
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on September 05, 2008, 10:46:17 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/MMPC/A%20Imperial%20Album/Italy/aut_elena.jpg)
She aged well in my opinion.  :)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Luc on September 06, 2008, 03:02:54 AM
Indeed, Mandie  :) Thank you much !
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: gleb on September 06, 2008, 04:29:10 AM
A time ago I read Elena was fond of fishing. Does anyone have photos of her when she's fishing ?

She was not only fond of fishing, it was a life long passion. She had so many equipments that at the end of ww2 the london shop (it was bombed) where She had bought everything asked her to sell them back a part of the equipments  in order to start again their activity

I'll find some pics for you, but there are very few photos becouse she did not like being photographed when she was fishing-relaxing
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Mari on September 07, 2008, 01:25:52 AM
Her daughter standing to the left of Queen Elena is the image of her!
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Princess Susan on September 07, 2008, 03:23:52 AM
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/breezer22/Savoia2.jpg)

On this painting is not see big high difference between  Regina Elena and her husband Victor Emanuel. In the contrary he looks a bit taller then she. Does anyone have photo of them for real comparison?
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Svetabel on September 07, 2008, 06:19:27 AM


On this painting is not see big high difference between  Regina Elena and her husband Victor Emanuel. In the contrary he looks a bit taller then she. Does anyone have photo of them for real comparison?

Here you are:

(http://www.picatom.com/o/King%20Vittorio%20Emmanuele%20III_spouse_-1-th.JPG) (http://www.picatom.com/o/King%20Vittorio%20Emmanuele%20III_spouse_-1.html)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Princess Susan on September 08, 2008, 01:57:16 AM
Thank you Svetabel! He looks by her indeed very short. :)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Norbert on October 05, 2008, 02:27:41 PM
Jelena's official debut was at the Smolny Institute Annual Ball in 1888. The 24 year old heir to the Russian throne invited her to open the ball with a pollonaise. St Petersburg was full of rumours that they would have a Slav rather than a German Empress. Sadly a distressing incident happened at a ball hosted by the Yusupovs in 1890. A quarrel broke out between two noblemen over her dance partner which ended in a duel. Prince Arsen of Serbia wounded Baron von Mannerheim ( future ruler of Finland) and the scandal led to the Princess being recalled to Cetinje.  However this brought her to the notice of the Queen of Italy who was worried at the biological inbreeding of the royal house (and would be a useful political bridge into the balkans). Prince Vittorio Emanuelle met his future Queen in May 1896 on the occasion of the Tsars coronation in Moscow, it was love at first sight.

This is from " the Court of king Nikola" by petar cukovic
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: gleb on October 06, 2008, 11:22:02 AM
Prince Vittorio Emanuelle met his future Queen in May 1896 on the occasion of the Tsars coronation in Moscow, it was love at first sight.

This is from " the Court of king Nikola" by petar cukovic

No, they met for the first time in Venice in 1895, there were the King, the Queen, the Prince of Naples and Princess Jelena with her sister Ana and her mother
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Norbert on October 07, 2008, 08:28:24 AM
Must admit I thought it was rather a romantic book . I bought the book in the palace bookshop a few days ago and read it on the plane back. It has some good pictures and will sit next to Andje Kapcic's book
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Mari on October 08, 2008, 02:27:53 AM
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No, they met for the first time in Venice in 1895, there were the King, the Queen, the Prince of Naples and Princess Jelena with her sister Ana and her mother
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Was it love at first sight? or second sight? :)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: gleb on October 08, 2008, 10:57:15 AM
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No, they met for the first time in Venice in 1895, there were the King, the Queen, the Prince of Naples and Princess Jelena with her sister Ana and her mother
Quote

Was it love at first sight? or second sight? :)

I think it was love at first time for the Prince, who was completely unaware, while the Princess had been told by her father of a possible marriage but she liked him very much, though he was very short.
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Norbert on October 09, 2008, 04:44:34 AM
Well he was, inherited from his mothers side.
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Empress_Catherine on October 10, 2008, 07:06:45 PM
AWWWWW!!! I love Queen Elena she is my FAVORITE queen.
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: gleb on October 11, 2008, 03:10:29 AM
AWWWWW!!! I love Queen Elena she is my FAVORITE queen.

She is my favourite Queen too.
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Norbert on October 19, 2008, 05:15:09 PM
sadly she was not wanted by the italians..... and  I do believe she persuaded the King to flee Rome in the closing days which doomed the monarchy
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on November 07, 2008, 10:42:53 AM
Portrait of Elena's firs ''love'' Baron Carl Gustav Emil von Mannerheim

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/Mannenheim.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: gleb on November 08, 2008, 02:39:12 AM
Baron Mannerheim kept on sending her flowers on her Name day every year untill the '50s
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on November 08, 2008, 05:55:19 AM
Yes and he was heavily wounded in St.Peterburg by Prince Arsen of Serbia because of her in his youth....
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Mari on December 05, 2008, 11:55:59 PM
Well, you can see why Baron Mannerheim was her first love!  ;) but I am glad her Marriage turned out well!
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Svetabel on December 13, 2008, 04:34:26 AM
Baron Mannerheim kept on sending her flowers on her Name day every year untill the '50s



In the "Nikola and Milena" book on the Montenegros that fact is put like a myth.
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on December 13, 2008, 08:32:57 AM
It is also mentioned in the biography of Queen Elena by Renato Barneschi(maybe my spelling is wrong)...
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on January 27, 2009, 10:35:06 AM
Don't worry, your spelling is correct.  :)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: KarlandZita on June 22, 2009, 10:10:50 AM
Victor Emmanuel little boy :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/vittorioemmanuel3.jpg)

As King of Italia :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/revittorioem3.jpg)

Queen Elena and her five children :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/25.jpg)

Queen Elena with her daughter Maria :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/elenamaria.jpg)

Queen Elena :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/57.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/23.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: KarlandZita on October 04, 2009, 10:27:02 AM
Queen Helen of Italy :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/elenamafa.jpg)
With baby Mafalda

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/roma1902.jpg)
In Rome in 1902

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/elenavitorio.jpg)
with Victor Emmanuel III

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/1947.jpg)
In 1947 with Umberto

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/olde.jpg)
Older Elena

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/old2.jpg)
Towards the end of her life
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Royal Bulgaria on October 04, 2009, 11:00:42 AM
With Umberto(?) and?
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/th_4generations.jpg) (http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/4generations.jpg)
One more with Mafalda and Yolanda
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/th_4523.jpg) (http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/4523.jpg)
The same one but kind of retouched
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/th_2789850220_d545faa749_o.jpg) (http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/2789850220_d545faa749_o.jpg)
Queen Helen of Italy
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/th_3624727868_7bcb7571ce_o.jpg) (http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/Grande_DuchesseOlga/3624727868_7bcb7571ce_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Svetabel on November 01, 2009, 05:54:04 AM
Queen Elena, portrait of 1899 year

(http://www.picatom.com/15/1899-1-th.jpg) (http://www.picatom.com/15/1899-1.html)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: gleb on November 30, 2009, 12:50:03 PM
Baron Mannerheim kept on sending her flowers on her Name day every year untill the '50s


In the "Nikola and Milena" book on the Montenegros that fact is put like a myth.

I think too it is not probably true, besides I think the King would not have been particularly happy of that (he was quite jealous). In any case I must add that on her name day (18th august) she received hundreds of telegrams and flowers from everywhere ( I read this in the court diaries of the summer residence of Valdieri, where the Royal Family used to spend august) so one never knows.
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Marc on December 01, 2009, 06:17:28 AM
It is said so in her biography by Renato Barneschi...also that her husband brought her roses from the garden himself every morning ;)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: KarlandZita on January 23, 2010, 04:50:27 AM
Regina Elena :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/elenaitalien.jpg)

Elena and her four first children :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Various%20Royals/House%20Savoy/dscxv.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Grand Duchess Valeria on March 06, 2010, 04:33:12 AM
Elena married Viktor in 1896 but gave birth to her first child only in 1901. Five years without children which was in this time quite unnormal. Does anybody know why? Did she have misscarriages, didn't get along with her husband or etc.?
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on March 06, 2010, 11:12:22 AM
Maybe they wanted to wait a few years before popping out babies left and right like every royal? I don't know. But their marriage was a love match.
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Rani on March 06, 2010, 11:49:57 AM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/eas75k.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 16, 2010, 03:15:00 PM
Elena

(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2642/xdr576.jpg) (http://img149.imageshack.us/i/xdr576.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on October 16, 2010, 03:46:48 PM
rather strange portait, its looks old style, like Tudor painting style.
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: KarlandZita on October 19, 2010, 09:36:45 AM
Regina Elena :

(http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/977280reginaelena.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=977280reginaelena.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on October 19, 2010, 09:48:01 AM
rather strange portait, its looks old style, like Tudor painting style.

Yes, i wonder if she really owned that dress or was just imagination of the illustratos

A wonderful portrait of the queen

(http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4840/aeftwet5.jpg) (http://img243.imageshack.us/i/aeftwet5.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Prince Justin on November 24, 2010, 03:38:33 PM
FINALLY. I've searched on the forums all day to find out who this person was...I found what I assume to be a reproduction portrait of Queen Elena at a local used book store...its a medium size in a ornate gilded frame. It looks more like a framed coloured photograph than a painting. Its the image of her on the throne looking to the right with the trefoil-like tiara on...its only 32.oo, I'm definitely going to get it. I mean its not Sissi or Alexandra so I'm assuming these must be rare...
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: ashdean on November 25, 2010, 12:12:27 PM
FINALLY. I've searched on the forums all day to find out who this person was...I found what I assume to be a reproduction portrait of Queen Elena at a local used book store...its a medium size in a ornate gilded frame. It looks more like a framed coloured photograph than a painting. Its the image of her on the throne looking to the right with the trefoil-like tiara on...its only 32.oo, I'm definitely going to get it. I mean its not Sissi or Alexandra so I'm assuming these must be rare...
Elena was a great beauty..
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: violetta on December 12, 2010, 06:41:35 AM
it was a discovery for me that mannerheim was attracted to her. i read mannerheim`s biography a month ago and there was no mention of it.where can i find info on their relation?
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: violetta on December 12, 2010, 06:43:09 AM
from the same sitting(though one has been posted)

(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/400px-Brogi_Carlo_1850-1925_-_Elena_di_Montenegro_1873-1952_-_datata_a_secco_1897.jpg)


(http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww199/vitavioletta/Carlo_Brogi_1850-1925_-_Elena_di_Montenegro_ca__1897.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: KarlandZita on March 06, 2012, 02:20:12 PM
Queen Elena and King Victor Emmanuel III in visit in Paris :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/499754inparis.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=499754inparis.jpg)

Royal visit in England :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/735594inrngland.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=735594inrngland.jpg)

Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: THERRY on January 08, 2013, 05:56:28 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAE2q_MCEAAsHe5.jpg:large
8 January 1873 Elena was born
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 10, 2013, 02:17:59 PM
Beautiful portrait of Regina Elena by Eduardo Gioja, 1913.
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/Eduardo_Gioja1913.jpg)

Click here for bigger!! (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/Eduardo_Gioja1913.jpg)


Photo <Sorry for the size!>
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/ReginaItaliaElena.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 17, 2013, 03:24:16 PM
Queen Elena by Giovanni Trussardi Volpi. The site said that the portrait was made ca. 1910 but on the original photo posted by Therry below, it appears not only with the signature of the Queen but with the year "1915".
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/ElenaItalia.jpg)

*****Credits: museoartetempo.it*****
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 18, 2013, 01:22:31 PM
The 1915 photo inspired another portrait too. *****Credits: lavocedelvolturno*****
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/ReginaElenalavocedelvolturno.jpg)

Bigger size? The second one was painted by G. Grosso ca. 1904
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/elenaSavoia.jpg)(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/elenaGrosso1904.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on January 18, 2013, 02:19:39 PM
A new image of Elena as a young Pss. Credits on the image

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/5486/fsngilardi33311pr.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/fsngilardi33311pr.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on January 22, 2013, 01:51:57 PM
Portrait based on the photo that Rani posted *****Source:quirinale.it*****
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/ElenaReginaItaliaMontenegro.jpg)

Two portraits of Queen Elena as nurse *****Source: torino.repubblica.it*****
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/ElenaNurse.jpg)
(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/KaiserinCharlotte/DarlingSissi/ElenaNurse1.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: veu-1 on March 24, 2013, 11:18:09 AM
(http://oi45.tinypic.com/1e2hz6.jpg)

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2191400.jpg)

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ynntpt.jpg)

(http://i48.tinypic.com/140ae01.jpg)

(http://i46.tinypic.com/1grogj.jpg)

Elena and royal family in Sant'Anna di Valdieri:

(http://i50.tinypic.com/312xzqg.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Svetabel on March 25, 2013, 12:39:01 AM


(http://i48.tinypic.com/2191400.jpg)




Pardon, this is Crownprincess Margareth of Sweden, nee Princess of Connaught.
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on March 25, 2013, 06:49:22 AM
Its Patricia. Check her pearl necklace

http://media-cache-ec4.pinterest.com/736x/0b/33/f6/0b33f6190b8f928d64327ab0f8738dd8.jpg

And the confusion comes from here

http://www.ebay.it/itm/REALI-ROYALTY-ITALY-SAVOIA-REGINA-ELENA-DI-MONTENEGRO-m-/140847070036?pt=Cartoline&hash=item20cb23bb54#ht_627wt_1139
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Svetabel on March 26, 2013, 05:27:24 AM
Its Patricia. Check her pearl necklace

http://media-cache-ec4.pinterest.com/736x/0b/33/f6/0b33f6190b8f928d64327ab0f8738dd8.jpg

And the confusion comes from here

http://www.ebay.it/itm/REALI-ROYALTY-ITALY-SAVOIA-REGINA-ELENA-DI-MONTENEGRO-m-/140847070036?pt=Cartoline&hash=item20cb23bb54#ht_627wt_1139

Eck, always my mistake with Margareth and Patricia ))). Anyway not Elena.
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on March 26, 2013, 06:23:32 AM
Its confusing sometimes cause both sisters looked alike a lot :-)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: veu-1 on March 26, 2013, 06:30:18 AM
Sorry for the mistake.

Two journal about Queen Elena:

(http://www.reumberto.it/oggig.jpg)

(http://www.reumberto.it/epocag.jpg)

Photos  of Queen Elena's tomb in Montpellier (France):

(http://www.noblesseetroyautes.com/nr01/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/elena2.jpg)

(http://www.noblesseetroyautes.com/nr01/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/elena3.jpg)

(http://www.noblesseetroyautes.com/nr01/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/elena4.jpg)

(http://www.noblesseetroyautes.com/nr01/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/elena5.jpg)

(http://www.noblesseetroyautes.com/nr01/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/elena6.jpg)

(http://www.landrucimetieres.fr/spip/IMG/jpg/helened_italie2.jpg)

(http://www.landrucimetieres.fr/spip/IMG/jpg/helened_italie1.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: veu-1 on July 27, 2014, 07:48:37 AM
Queen Elena and Vittorio Emanuele III in Sant'Anna di Valdieri, in province of Cuneo:

(http://i60.tinypic.com/2h87683.jpg)

(http://i61.tinypic.com/dhd0co.jpg)

(http://i59.tinypic.com/2vt2p9t.jpg)

(http://i57.tinypic.com/2ihnf69.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen ELENA of Italy (1873-1952),nee Montenegro
Post by: veu-1 on July 27, 2014, 08:01:15 AM
Queen Elena and Princess Jolanda in Sant'Anna di Valdieri from La Domenica del Corriere:

(http://i59.tinypic.com/makx2e.jpg)