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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Hohenzollern => Topic started by: thijs on December 16, 2005, 03:02:44 AM

Title: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on December 16, 2005, 03:02:44 AM


Princess Sophie von Wied furstin of Albania


(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/prinsessophiezuwiedAlbanie.jpg)

Sophie von Wied (born princess of Schonburg) furstin of Albania

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/sophievanwiedgebprinsesvanschonburg.jpg)

Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on December 16, 2005, 11:22:02 AM
Because there is so much information to gather about the Wied family I thought it would be great to give the Wieds an own topic!

The furst and fusrtin von Wied with their children and their daughter in law princess Pauline von Wurttemberg

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/Afbeelding054.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Lucien on December 16, 2005, 01:42:57 PM
http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1070722949&str...

After the Grandduchess Sophie of Sachsen-Weimar,néé Princess of The Netherlands died in 1897,"Marietje"was the only surviving member of the Orange-Nassaus,besides TM Queen Emma and Queen Wilhelmina,ofcourse.
Daughter of Prince Frederik and Princess Louise,néé of Prussia(a dominating,impossible character),granddaughter of King Willem I,she was to engage at the age of 28,considered quite old at that time.Once deemed a possible match for the Prince of Wales,but the poor lady was turned down.Later,as Fürstin Marie and her husband visited Vicky,Crown Princess at that time,she wrote her darling mama:"she had never seen two such ugly people before,and allthough she personally liked Marietje of The Netherlands very much,she could well imagine why her brother(dirty Bertie)had turned her down".

There was extensive contact by letters,and visits vice versa,between the Wieds and Queen Emma and her daughter Wilhelmina.

Schloss Neuwied:
http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1070722979&str...
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Lucien on December 17, 2005, 12:38:28 AM
Fürstin Marie of Wied was born on July 5th 1841 at "De Pauw" in Wassenaar.Quite a modest person,impregnated that duty always came first,she grew up lonely.Both her brothers Willem and Frederik had died young and her only sister Louise married the Crown Prince of Norway and Sweden in 1850,Marie was 9.

Her mother was the dominating(and quite impossible)Louise of Prussia,so Marie's younger years were unhappy most of the time.It proved almost impossible to find a suitor for her as she wasn't exactly blessed with good looks,but also developed a hearing disability since childhood,she was nearly deaf.

In 1869 Fürst Wilhelm of Wied wished to marry her,and dispite protests from Berlin(a Prince without any land marrying the offspring of the Prussians....now really.Nonetheless King Willem III approved of the marriage and Marie's engagement was announced in the same year.The wedding,however,had to be postponed twice,first because of the French-German war,and then because both Marie's mother and sister Louise,Queen of Sweden,died within a short period of time.

The wedding finally took place at "De Pauw"on july 18th 1871.

The couple lived at Neuwied Palace and was blessed with 3 sons and 2 daughters.Marie's sister in law was the legendary Carmen Sylva,sister of Wilhelm married to King Carol I,Marie's mother in law,was another eccentric,néé Princess of Nassau.Missy(the notorious blabbermouth)wrote about the quite bizar Wied family in which the prozaic Princess Marie stood out,she greatly admired Marie and described her as;"a tres grande dame,completely without any form of eccentricity".

Marie and her family often visited Prince Frederik at "De Pauw"or stayed with her favorite aunt,Queen Sophie,at Huis ten Bosch Palace.The difficulties within the dutch RF (the unhappy marriage of Sophie and Willem III,ao)affected Marie deeply,and she and her husband represented the RF on many occasions in The Netherlands,and remained wellknown and respected figures here.

The bond between the dutch RF and the Wieds became even stronger from the time Queen Emma married Willem III.Marie's mother in law was a sister of Emma's mother,they not only shared the same family background but also the same views in general.After grandduchess Sophie's death,Emma had a strong supporter in Marie,with whom she "talked about everything".

In the days of the engagement of Queen Wilhelmina with Hendrik,Emma wrote Marie how relieved she was her daughter was to marry and how she beamed with happiness.Marie must have frowned upon the news,as her own son,Wilhelm,was since long seen as a possible suitor for the young Queen.But,that was blocked by Emma."Family ties were too close,and besides,A Wied wasn't good enough for a Queen".(The joy with which matchmaker Emma wrote her niece was totally misplaced as history would learn,soon).Wilhelm eventually married(1906) Princess Sophie of Schönburg-Waldenburg.Emma had more "whiffs"of Hoheitsfieber(a german expression,could be translated in superiority complex,to put it mildly)as she,Emma,also strongly disapproved of the marriage of Marie's son with Pauline of Württemberg,daughter of Emma's sister,as a Princess of the blood Royal was no match to the "simple" Wieds.This remark caused the Fürst of Wied to travel home highly irritated,right away after the Inthronisation ceremony of Queen Wilhelmina in 1898.Nonetheless,Queen's Emma and Wilhelmina attended the baptism of the couples firstborn at Potsdam,as Wilhelmina was the childs godmother.

So,we have that bond between Marie and Emma,with Marie always remaining her kind self,and Emma,allthough seemingly friendly,was the umptiest country girl from germany that forgot where she'd come from.Seemingly friendly,but exceptionally formal,the latter was forgiven for the first,and Marie must have thought the same,and remained on friendly terms.Being Her Majesty in public was justified,but to remain as distant in private towards family members,shows how Emma was clinging on to her status,at all times,unable to lay down her Royal mask and to give herself openly.Not wishing to sound too harsh on Emma,it must have been extremely difficult to be in her position at a time women had to really "fight"to be taken seriously,and to have all the responsibility she was bestowed with.But she did revel in it at times,I suspect,and wasn't quite the distant aloof saintly lady at all times we dutch in general,think she was.

As the marriage of the young Wilhelmina remained childless for such a long time,(stillborn son and several miscarriages)Marie's son Fritz came in the spotlights,this time as a possible heir to the dutch Throne.(When Wilhelmina was ill with typhoid fever in 1902,the Prince had travelled to The Netherlands "to be at hand",just in case),furthermore Fritz's father in law,the King of Württemberg,had visited the Dutch Court at the time,and that only fuelled to the matter of Fritz's possibly becoming heir.That,however was highly frowned upon here,and deemed very undesirable,and it was with immens joy,and a sigh of relief,that dear Juliana was welcomed in 1909.
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Lucien on December 17, 2005, 01:51:18 AM
http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1074904204&str...

Fritz,Marie's eldest son,Fürst of Wied since 1907,and Pauline of Wied were loved family members,and visited Emma and Wilhelmina often.Pauline and Wilhelmina differed only 3 years in age,and became very good friends.They were both invited for the wedding of Princess Juliana and Fritz was to be a witness/best man for the Princess,but the Wieds had difficulties with the Nazi's and were not allowed to leave.

The dutch "horsten" estates of Marie were up for sale in 1903,it was part of Marie's inheritance,as Wilhelmina got wind of it,she offered to buy,which she did.Part of the Horsten as we know it now is the "Eikenhorst",residence of The Prince of Orange and Princess Máxima.

http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1076380242&str...

Marie's son Wilhelm,was bestowed with the (questionable..)honour of becoming Reigning Prince of Albania.Then as now still,a troublesome godforlorn piece of rocks and pebbles in the Balkan,then as now,no charm whatshowever,not from a landscape point of view,nor it's population,now and then,one of Europes poorhouses.Not to mention the backwardness.How on earth the position appealed to Wilhelm is lost on me,but others might clear that up.

Wilhelm I of Albania with his daughter,Princess Marie Eleonore:
http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1076380231&str...
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Lucien on December 17, 2005, 02:28:22 AM
Present day zu Wieds:

Fürst Friedrich Wilhelm and Fürstin Sophie Charlotte with daughter Princess Christina
http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1070672467&str...

Prince Ulrich and Princess Ilke with son Prince Wilhelm zu Wied:
http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1077284199&str...

The Württembergs and zu Wieds(including the late Madame la Comtesse de Paris)
http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1077284280&str...
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Rebecca on December 17, 2005, 06:44:32 AM
Lucien's postings about the Wied family were very interesting and highly informative to read. Thank you very much for sharing this information.
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on December 18, 2005, 03:05:27 AM
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Present day zu Wieds:

Fürst Friedrich Wilhelm and Fürstin Sophie Charlotte with daughter Princess Christina
http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1070672467&str...

Prince Ulrich and Princess Ilke with son Prince Wilhelm zu Wied:
http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1077284199&str...

The Württembergs and zu Wieds(including the late Madame la Comtesse de Paris)
http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1077284280&str...


Lucien: do you know how the relationship between the Wied family developed with the Dutch royla family during the reigns of Wilhelmina, Juliana up till now Beatrix?
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Lucien on December 18, 2005, 04:06:56 PM
Fritz and Pauline zu Wied were,besides cousins,friends of Wilhelmina.Both were invited to Princess Juliana's wedding as Fritz was to be Juliana's best man,but like I said,the Wieds had troubles with the Nazi's and were not allowed to leave germany,and that was 3 years before the war broke out here.

Wilhelmina,Juliana and Pauline kept close contact untill their death,Wilhelmina in 1962,Pauline in 1965,IIRC.The Wieds have been regular guests of the RF,still(Beatrix's Inthronisation,HM 60th birthday party-weekend,WA and Máxima's wedding etc).
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on December 19, 2005, 12:32:08 PM
Thanks marc. Here they are: Fritz and Pauline zu Wied

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/Afbeelding014_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on December 20, 2005, 05:46:53 AM
The parents of the furstin Marie zu Wied, prince Frederick of the Netherlands, his wife princess Louise (born princess of Prussia) and her brother prince Frederick jr (who died as a boy of ten ears old)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/2005-12-19-2130-10_edited.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/2005-12-19-2130-10-copy_edited.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/2005-12-19-2239-38_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Marc on December 20, 2005, 12:24:41 PM
Just great!No words!Do you have some Wied portraits?
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Danjel on December 24, 2005, 04:58:10 PM
Prc Frederik of the Netherlands with his grandsons, from R to L Prc Friedrich, Prce Wilhelm, Prce Victor von Wied

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/PrcFrederikNeth.jpg

Prince Frederik

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/PrcFrederik1.jpg
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Danjel on December 24, 2005, 05:02:43 PM
Thijs, are you sure it is Prince Willem Frederik (1836-1846) or his brother Prince Frederik, who died as a boy of 18 months (1833-1834) I this this boy looks a bit older, so it must be the first, but I just wonder..
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Danjel on December 24, 2005, 05:08:24 PM
Marie, Fürstin zu Wied, born Prss of the Netherlands (1841-1910)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/Marie1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/WiedFrstinMariebornPrssoftheNetherl.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/MarieFrstinzuWiedbornPrssoftheNethe.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/WIEDFrstWilhelmFrstinMarie.jpg

Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Danjel on December 24, 2005, 05:09:30 PM
her husband Wilhelm, Fürst zu Wied (1845-1907)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/WiedFrstWilhelm.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/WiedFrstWilhelm1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/WiedFrstWilhelmFrstinMariebornPrsso.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/Wiedfamily1899.jpg
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Danjel on December 24, 2005, 05:11:36 PM
her father in law, Hermann, Fürst zu Wied (1814-1864)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/Hermann4thFrstzuWied1814-1864.jpg

Her mother in law, Marie, Fürstin zu Wied, born Prss of Nassau-Weilburg (1825-1902)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/MarieFrstinzuWiedbornPrssofNassau.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/MarieFrstinzuWiedbornPrssofNassau1.jpg
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Danjel on December 24, 2005, 05:19:17 PM
her son Friedrich, Fürst zu Wied (1872-1945)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/FrstFriedrich.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/WiedFrstFriedrichFrstinPaulinebornV.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/WiedHer.jpg

His wife Pauline, born Prss of Württemberg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/2WiedFurstinPauline.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/Pauline.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/PaulineWied.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/WiedHSHPrincessPaulinebornPrssofWrt.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/WiedPrssPaulinebornPrssofWrttemberg.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/Paulinewedding.jpg
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on December 26, 2005, 04:25:56 AM
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Thijs, are you sure it is Prince Willem Frederik (1836-1846) or his brother Prince Frederik, who died as a boy of 18 months (1833-1834) I this this boy looks a bit older, so it must be the first, but I just wonder..


Danjel, I looked it up. It is prince Frederik jr 1836-1845. There are 2 iditentical portraits of this (by J.B. van der Hulst 1790-1862 the Dutch court painter). The other one is in the possession of the furst zu Wied.  Are there any other known paintings, portraits of the zu Wied family known?
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on December 29, 2005, 10:06:02 AM
A unusual informal photograph of those days: the family zu Wied about 1890

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/2005-12-29-1627-04_edited.jpg)

Princess Marie about 1890

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/2005-12-29-1627-04-copy_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Laura_ on December 29, 2005, 01:42:15 PM
wonderful photos of the entire Wied family:) what about Marie's sister-in-law Elisabeth, queen of Romania??does anyone here have some photos from her youth?? the only photos i've seen of her are those from Romania;are there any photos of her with her brother Wilhelm or with her sister-in-law??? it would be so nice to see more of her"Wied period" :)

Laura
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Laura_ on December 29, 2005, 01:50:20 PM
i've found this--Elisabeth,Princess of Wied-Queen of Romania(1843-1916)

(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/wied/1843%20Elisabeth.JPG)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Laura_ on December 29, 2005, 01:51:55 PM
and her memorial plate in Neuwied

(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-countries/germany/neuwied/Carmen%20Sylva-1.jpg)

(http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-countries/germany/neuwied/Carmen%20Sylva-2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on January 12, 2006, 06:58:30 AM
Queen Louise of Sweden (1828-1870) sister of furstin Marie zu Wied

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/koninginlouisevanzweden.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Marc on January 12, 2006, 07:40:07 AM
Great photo,I have never seen it-very interesting!
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on January 14, 2006, 11:41:14 AM
I promised a while ago to post a better quality of this picture, so here it is.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-01-14-1245-16_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Lucien on January 15, 2006, 03:26:33 PM
The present House zu Wied:
http://www.zuwied.de/
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on January 21, 2006, 12:13:43 PM
Princess Marie of the Netherlands

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-01-20-1703-13_edited-copy.jpg)

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-01-20-1703-13_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on January 24, 2006, 01:45:57 PM
Georgine Henriette Marie (Arolsen 23 May 1857-Villa Marienwahl, nr Ludwigsburg 30 Apr 1882); m.Arolsen 15 Feb 1877 King Wilhelm II of Württemberg

Marie of Waldeck Pyrmont (elder sister of queen Emma of the Netherlands)

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-01-24-1320-29_edited.jpg)

The only daughter of Wilhelm ll von Wurttemberg and Marie of Waldeck Pyrmont was princess Pauline. She married th eldest son of princess Marie zu Wied, princess of the Netherlands.


Pauline Olga Helene Emma  (Stuttgart 19 Dec 1877-Ludwigsburg 7 May 1965); m.Stuttgart 29 Oct 1898 Friedrich Fst zu Wied (Neuwied 27 Jun 1872-Neuwied 18 Jun 1945)

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-01-24-1320-29-copy_edited.jpg)











Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on January 25, 2006, 12:54:23 PM
The "Pferdekoppel" on one of the estates of King Wilhelm ll in Wurttemberg, Marienwahl near Ludwigsburg. His daughter, princess Pauline, the furstin zu Wied, was buried here. This was here favorite spot. She was during her whole life extremely fond of horses and that`s why she chose this burial place for herself. This is the place where here own horses stayed during her liftetime. Princess Pauline was a loved and respected princess by the Wurttemberg people, even after she married she stayed a lot in Wurttemburg.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-01-24-1325-50_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on January 25, 2006, 12:56:01 PM
King Wilhelm ll of Wurttemberg with his two eldest grandsons zu Wied, sons of princess Pauline.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-01-24-1322-57_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on January 25, 2006, 12:58:38 PM
WILHELM II Karl Paul Heinrich Friedrich, King of Württemberg, abdicated 29 Nov 1918 (Stuttgart 25 Feb 1848-Schloß Bebenhausen 2 Oct 1921); m.1st Arolsen 15 Feb 1877 Marie Pss zu Waldeck und Pyrmont (Arolsen 23 May 1857-Villa Marienwahl, nr Ludwigsburg 30 Apr 1882); m.2d Bückeburg 8 Apr 1886 Charlotte Pss zu Schaumburg-Lippe (Ratiboritz 10 Oct 1864-Schloß Bebenhausen 16 Jul 1946)

King Wilhelm ll and queen Charlotte of Wurttemberg. The royal couple were the guests of queen Wilhelmina i The Hague in 1912 for a few days. The background of their visit is not known.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-01-24-1328-06_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Lucien on January 26, 2006, 03:52:46 PM
Thijs,the visit of the King of Württemberg fueled rumours that his son-in-law Fritz of Wied,Marietjes son,would possibly be the future Heir to the Dutch Throne.Juliana was just 3 years,and Queen Wilhelmina had suffered several miscarriages.The visit included talks about Fritz's possibilities in it's framework.But that was highly frowned upon here,the dutch didn't wish/want any other House then the House of Orange.
They ditched the very idea.

On a personal level,the Wieds,specially Fritz and Pauline,were on very good terms with the dutch RF.

Once again,the pictures/images you provide are marvellous!
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on January 30, 2006, 09:28:56 AM
Thanks for the info Lucien. I first thought the visit of the Wurttemberg King and Queen to Wilhelmina were a kind of reconcilition between the two royal houses because fo the incident that Wilhelmina had said that she found it very strange that a prince of Wied (Marie`s eldest son) would marry princess Pauline of Wurttemberg (Wilhelmina`s niece).

I posted the picture of King Karl of Wurttemberg on this thread but I meant to do so on the thread about queen Sophie, so I move it to that thread since it is more logic to place it there.
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 06, 2006, 09:32:02 AM
Queen Charlotte of Wurttemberg with one of the grandsons zu Wied.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/koningincharlottevanwurttembergmetk.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 06, 2006, 09:33:44 AM
King Wilhelm ll of Wurttemberg with two of his grandchildren zu Wied

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/koningvanworttembergmetkleinkindere.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 06, 2006, 09:34:50 AM
Princess Pauline zu Wied (daughter of King Wilhelm ll of Wurttemberg)

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/paulinevanwuttemberg.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 08, 2006, 11:39:24 AM
Princess Louise of the Netherlands (born of Prussia) mother of furstin Marie zu Wied.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-07-1448-34_edited-copy-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 08, 2006, 11:42:49 AM
Furstin Marie zu Wied

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-07-1448-34_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 09, 2006, 06:51:09 AM
Princess Marie, the furstin zu Wied, with her eldest grandchild, prince Hermann zu Wied.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-07-1044-38_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 10, 2006, 11:06:18 AM
Princess Louise of the Netherlands, mother of furstin Marie zu Wied.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-07-1448-34_edited-copy.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 10, 2006, 11:23:09 AM
Princess Marie zu Wied and her family.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-07-1044-38_edited-copy.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 10, 2006, 11:25:05 AM
Marie princess of the Netherlands, furstin zu Wied.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-07-1043-03_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 10, 2006, 11:25:53 AM
The family zu Wied

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-07-1043-03_edited-copy.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 11, 2006, 06:54:31 AM


Prncess Marie, furstin zu Wied in 1878 with her three sons (from left to right princee Victor, prince Frederick and prince William).

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-07-1039-23_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 12, 2006, 05:11:09 AM
The residence (picture 1889) of the furst and furstin zu Wied the schloss in Neuwied.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-07-1036-46-copy-1_edited.jpg)

The summerresidence of the Zu Wied family villa Monrepos.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/S_081_MONROPOS.gif)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 12, 2006, 05:13:32 AM
Marie zu Wied with her sons prince Frederick and prince William.


(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-07-1036-46-copy_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 12, 2006, 10:39:07 AM
The mariage of the son of princess Marie, the heir zu Wied, with princess Pauline of Wurttemberg, only daughter of King Wilhelm ll of Wurttemberg.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/Afbeelding013_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 13, 2006, 11:29:50 AM
King Wilhelm ll of  Wurttemberg with his second wife queen Charlotte (born Schaumburg Lippe) and his daughter princess Pauline furstin zu Wied, her husband the furst zu Wied and two of their children.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-12-1427-56_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 13, 2006, 11:57:08 AM
Willem Frederik Karel (Berlin 28 Feb 1797-Pauw Haus, Wassenaer 8 Sep 1881) married Berlin 21 May 1825 Luise Pss of Prussia (Berlin 1 Feb 1808-Pauw Haus 6 Dec 1870). Parents of Marie furstin zu Wied.



(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-12-1431-21-copy_edited.jpg)

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-12-1431-21_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 14, 2006, 01:46:21 PM
Princess Marie furstin zu Wied with one of her children.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-07-1036-46_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 15, 2006, 06:49:09 AM
The two children of King Wilhelm ll of Wurttemberg and his first wife princess Marie of Waldeck Pyrmont.

Pauline Olga Helene Emma  (Stuttgart 19 Dec 1877-Ludwigsburg 7 May 1965); m.Stuttgart 29 Oct 1898 Friedrich Fst zu Wied (Neuwied 27 Jun 1872-Neuwied 18 Jun 1945)

Christoph Ulrich Ludwig (Stuttgart 28 Jul 1880-Stuttgart 28 Dec 1880)




(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-12-1435-09_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 15, 2006, 06:51:15 AM
The mother of princess Pauline (later furstin zu Wied) princess Marie of Waldeck Pyrmont as bride for King Wilhelm ll of Wurttemberg.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-12-1429-41_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 17, 2006, 02:44:06 PM
Prince Frederick of the Netherlands, father of Marie furstin zu Wied.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/2006-02-07-1454-36-copy_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 17, 2006, 03:28:19 PM
Marie zu Waldeck Pyrmont married with Wilhelm ll of Wurttemberg with their two children, Ulrich and Pauline (the later furstin zu Wied).

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/MariePrincesszuWaldeck-Pyrmont1857-.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Danjel on February 19, 2006, 12:32:52 PM
Thijs, this is not Marie, but her daughter, Prss Pauline..


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The mother of princess Pauline (later furstin zu Wied) princess Marie of Waldeck Pyrmont as bride for King Wilhelm ll of Wurttemberg.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-12-1429-41_edited.jpg (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-02-12-1429-41_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 20, 2006, 03:45:40 AM
Hi Danjel, you are right. My mistake. It isn`t Marie Waldeck Pyrmont but her daughter princess Pauline, the later furstin zu Wied. I am glad there are fellow posters with a sharp eye! Thanks.
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 25, 2006, 12:15:10 PM


Here a picture of Prince Frederick of the Netherlands, father of Marie furstin zu Wied.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/Afbeelding019.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on February 26, 2006, 06:50:38 AM
Louise, princess of the Netherlands and mother of Marie furstin zu Wied.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/Afbeelding005_1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on March 12, 2006, 09:41:15 AM
The parents of furstin Marie zu Wied, prince Frederick and princess Lousie of the Netherlands.


(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/frederikenlouise.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on March 12, 2006, 03:07:06 PM
Marriage in 1871 of Wilhelm zu Wied and Marie princess of the Netherlands in the church of Wassenaar near The Hague. Marie`s mother and sister died shortly after each other before Marie married (the wedding ceremonies had been postponed for that reason). On the right of the bride and groom you can see the father of the bride prince Frederick of the Netherlands, queen Sophie and King William lll and grandduchess widow Alexandrine of Mecklenburg Schwerin (sister of Marie;s mother). On the left you can see prince Henry of the Netherlands, prince Albert of Prussia (son of princess Marianne of the Netherlands), prince Willem (son of King William lll), prince Alexander (son of King William lll), princess Amalia of the Netherlands (wife of prince Henry) and princess Alexandrine duchess of Mecklenburg Schweri (born princess of Prussia and daughter of princess Marianne of the Netherlands).


(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/huwelijkmarieinwassenaar.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on March 12, 2006, 03:15:31 PM
Wilhelm furst zu Wied and Marie princess of the Netherlands in 1870, before their marriage.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/wilhelmenmariezuwied1870voorhuwelij.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on March 13, 2006, 06:49:45 AM

Furstin Marie zu Wied father, prince Frederick of the Netherlands in 1880

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/frederik1880.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on March 13, 2006, 06:51:36 AM
The mother of furstin Marie zu Wied princess Louise of the Netherlands, the baby is her eldest daughter also named Louise, the later queen Louise  of Sweden. Picture is not of a good quality though, sorry.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/louiseenlouiselaterkoninginvanzwede.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on March 14, 2006, 10:13:22 AM
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Louise, princess of the Netherlands and mother of Marie furstin zu Wied.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/Afbeelding005_1.jpg (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/Afbeelding005_1.jpg)

And her husband prince Frederick of the Netherlands.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/frederik1840.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on March 14, 2006, 10:14:22 AM
Marmor bust of prince Frederick.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/frederik1815.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on March 23, 2006, 09:50:09 AM
Elisabeth zu Wied, queen of Roumania.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/carmensylva1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on March 23, 2006, 09:59:45 AM
The Wied residence Villa Monrepos.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/villamonrepos.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on March 23, 2006, 10:01:16 AM
Queen Elisabeth of Roumania with her nieces princess Elisabeth and princess Louise zu Wied (daughters of Marie furstin zu Wied).

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/elisabethandnieces.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on April 08, 2006, 12:40:00 PM
The three sons of furstin Marie zu Wied: prince friedrich wilhelm, prince wilhelm friedrich heinrich and prince viktor.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/erfprinswilhelmfriedrichwilhelmfrie.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on April 08, 2006, 01:35:39 PM
Prince Frederick of the Netherlands.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/prinsfreder.jpg)

Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on April 09, 2006, 07:50:28 AM
Wilhelm, furst zu Wied.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/furstzuwied.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on April 09, 2006, 07:52:47 AM
Prince Frederick and princess Louise of the Netherlands, parents of Marie furstin zu Wied.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/prinsfred.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/prinseslouise.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on April 10, 2006, 11:26:35 AM
Furstin Marie zu Wied.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/prinsesmarie.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on April 10, 2006, 11:28:07 AM
Her second eldest son, who became for a short time furst of Albania.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/wilhelmwiedfurstvanalbanie.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on April 10, 2006, 11:30:29 AM
Prince Frederick of the netherlands, brother of King William ll and princess Marianne of the Netherlands, and father of Marie furstin zu Wied.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/prinsfrederik.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Marc on April 10, 2006, 04:56:34 PM
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/auersperg22/EleonoreWied.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Marc on April 10, 2006, 04:58:33 PM
Such a shame there aren't any portraits of von Wied family...here is picture of beautiful Princess Eleonore von Wied,later Princess von Schönburg-Waldenburg,granddaughter of Fürstin Marie zu Wied!
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on April 15, 2006, 09:44:13 AM
Elisabeth zu Wied, queen of Roumania.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/RoyaltiesOfTheWorld.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on April 15, 2006, 09:45:32 AM
Elisabeth, queen of roumania.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/ReginaElisabeth.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: thijs on April 15, 2006, 09:47:09 AM
Elisabeth, queen of Roumania.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/henrylooking123/MemorysShrine211.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Forum Admin on April 15, 2006, 09:58:07 AM
Hi,
These photos are simply too large and we ask always that photos be no bigger than 5x7 inches, and at 72dpi.

Such large photos are a major reason why the Forum runs slowly.

Thanks.

FA
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Lucien on February 13, 2007, 01:40:56 AM
Still a pitty we don't get to see,smaller,versions posted by Thijs anymore,wish he will come back with more as,imho,this is an awesomely beautifull thread.
Well Thijs?.. ;)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: mardam on February 16, 2007, 02:39:45 PM
Mother and daughter: Marie princess of Nassau (1825-1902) , spouse of Wilhelm
and her daughter Elisabeth (Carmen Sylva).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/mardam/moederdochter.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Laura_ on February 16, 2007, 08:49:58 PM
thank you,never seen it before  :)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Svetabel on February 17, 2007, 02:20:06 AM
Wow, wonderful picture! Never seen it! :)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Laura_ on February 17, 2007, 03:13:59 AM
is it from a book ? :)its very rare indeed! :)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: mardam on February 17, 2007, 03:30:37 PM
A small book I bought in Mon Repos, Neuwied. Not very interesting
but with some nice pictures.
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Yseult on September 08, 2007, 03:15:22 PM
Dear group...
I´m seaching for information about Marie of Nassau-Weilburg, princess of Wied. She was the wife of Hermann IV and the mother of Elizabeth of Wied, later first queen of Roumania. Information and portraits/pictures would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Lucien on September 09, 2007, 04:42:26 AM
http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/nassau/nassauweilburg4/1825%20Marie.jpg

http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/wied/1814%20Hermann-01.jpg
Courtesy Mardam's Royaltyguide.
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Yseult on September 09, 2007, 03:00:25 PM
Laurra...thanks for the wonderful picture...I never had seen it before!!
I was trying to clarify if Maria, after the death of her husband, started a long time relationship with another man. I read somewhere that when Elizabeth was "banished" from the roumanian court "for a while" after the affaire Ferdinand/Elena Vacarescu, she returned to Neuwied with her mother Maria but she was shocked because her mother was involved with a man...
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: berno on December 25, 2007, 08:25:22 AM
Marie zu Wied (1825-1902) mother in law of princess Marie of the Netherlands.

(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee160/bernophotobucket/MariePrinzessinvonNassau-Weilburg29.jpg)

(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee160/bernophotobucket/mariezuwiedendrmezger.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: berno on January 19, 2008, 11:25:09 AM
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee160/bernophotobucket/507px-Drottning_Lovisa_av_Sverige_o.jpg)

Princess Louise was born on August 5, 1828 in The Hague and was the elder sister of princess Marie zu Wied. Their father was Prince Frederik of the Netherlands, the second child of King Willem I of the Netherlands and Wilhelmina of Prussia. Her mother was Princess Louise of the Netherlands (née Princess Louise of Prussia), the eighth child of King Friederich Wilhelm III of Prussia and Queen Luise of Prussia (née Duchess Luise of Mecklenburg-Strelitz).

Princess Louise married on June 19, 1850 Crown Prince Karl of Sweden and Norway, the son of King Oscar I of Sweden and Norway and Queen Josefina of Sweden and Norway (née Princess Josephine of Leuchtenberg). Princess Wilhelmina Frederika Alexandrine Anna Louise then became Princess Vilhelmina Fredrika Alexandrine Anna Lovisa.

Lovisa was not a successful crown-princess, and was not to be a successful queen, having a shy and quiet personality, the opposite of the king's, though the fact that she never had anything whatsoever to do with politics was considered to be a good contrast to the previous queen-consorts who had, such as her predecessor, Josephine of Leuchtenberg. She spent her life attending to domestic duties and the family's finances, trying to please her husband by becoming the ideal woman of the time and wearing the "Ornament of silence". Her personality did represent this ideal, but it did not improve her relationship with the king, who treated her with condescending kindness but largely neglected her. Eventually, her health deteriorated.


Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: berno on January 19, 2008, 11:37:36 AM
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee160/bernophotobucket/hermannwied1899.jpg)

Hereditary Prince Hermann Wilhelm Friedrich zu Wied
(Potsdam, August 18th, 1899† Res. Kriegslazaret 2/520, Rzeszów, November 5th, 1941) and his brother Prince Dietrich Wilhelm Friedrich Karl Paul zu Wied (Potsdam, October 30th, 1901† Ludwigsburg, January 8th, 1976). Both grandchildren of princess Marie of the Netherlands, princess zu Wied.


Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Daniela on February 01, 2009, 01:19:29 PM
This tread is inactive for a year, but for some time I'm looking for some new info on this family. There are a lots of great photos and info about Marie, her parents, her husband and sons. But not a lot about her daughters, princess Luise and Elisabeth. Can some of you tell something about them. All I know is that Luise was born in Neuwied on 24 Oct 1880 and died in Castle Monrepos nr Wied on 29 Aug 1965; Elisabeth being born in Neuwied on 28 Jan 1883 and died in Monrepos nr Neuwied on 14 Nov 1938.

Thanks,  Daniela
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 07, 2009, 07:43:37 PM
Quote from: thijs on January 24, 2006, 01:45:57 PM
Georgine Henriette Marie (Arolsen 23 May 1857-Villa Marienwahl, nr Ludwigsburg 30 Apr 1882); m.Arolsen 15 Feb 1877 King Wilhelm II of Württemberg

Marie of Waldeck Pyrmont (elder sister of queen Emma of the Netherlands)

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/henry-looking/2006-01-24-1320-29_edited.jpg)

The only daughter of Wilhelm ll von Wurttemberg and Marie of Waldeck Pyrmont was princess Pauline. She married th eldest son of princess Marie zu Wied, princess of the Netherlands.


Pauline Olga Helene Emma  (Stuttgart 19 Dec 1877-Ludwigsburg 7 May 1965); m.Stuttgart 29 Oct 1898 Friedrich Fst zu Wied (Neuwied 27 Jun 1872-Neuwied 18 Jun 1945)


Is this mother & daughter, along with Pauline's short-lived brother?

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/280309615558.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Svetabel on February 09, 2009, 12:59:08 AM


Yes, those are Marie with Pauline and Ulrich.
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: ashdean on February 09, 2009, 02:57:55 AM
Quote from: Marc on April 10, 2006, 04:56:34 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/auersperg22/EleonoreWied.jpg (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/auersperg22/EleonoreWied.jpg)
Didn't this lady sadly later die in a Romanian labour camp?
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 09, 2009, 09:40:26 AM
Quote from: Svetabel on February 09, 2009, 12:59:08 AM
Quote from: grandduchessella on February 07, 2009, 07:43:37 PM


Is this mother & daughter, along with Pauline's short-lived brother?

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/280309615558.jpg)

Yes, those are Marie with Pauline and Ulrich.
[/quote]

Thanks, Sveta. I had seen the card up for sale but it was misidentified. I e-mailed the seller with the correct info but thought I'd double-check just in case.
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Marc on February 12, 2009, 03:19:47 AM
Quote from: ashdean on February 09, 2009, 02:57:55 AM
Quote from: Marc on April 10, 2006, 04:56:34 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/auersperg22/EleonoreWied.jpg (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/auersperg22/EleonoreWied.jpg)
Didn't this lady sadly later die in a Romanian labour camp?

Yes,unfortunatly,she did ;(
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Marc on November 02, 2011, 08:47:59 PM
Again,black and white :-( portrait of Princess Marie zu Wied:

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/MarWied.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: berno on November 06, 2011, 08:45:06 AM
Very interesting Marc, never seen this one. Where is this painting now? In Neuwied palace?
Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Marc on November 06, 2011, 10:24:40 AM
It is in De Paauw palace,former residence of Prince Frederick...
Title: Re: The Wied family
Post by: Marc on March 29, 2012, 06:06:27 PM
One more portrait of Princess Marie zu Wied:

http://www.bildindex.de/obj05151110.html#|home

Again black and white! :-(