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Title: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 22, 2005, 07:04:48 AM
I would like to start a new topic about this interesting family, so please post your information and pictures. Thanks!

Duke Friedrich of Sachsen Hildburghausen, later named Sachsen Altenburg. Duke Friedrich 1763-1834 married 1785  Charlotte Dss of Mecklenburg-Strelitz 1769-1818


(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/friedrich1763-1834.jpg)

His wife duchess Charlotte, sister of queen Friederike of Hannover, queen Louise of Prussia and furstin of Thurn und Taxis


(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/CHARLOTTEDUCHESSOFSAXE-HILDBURGHAUS.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 22, 2005, 07:05:55 AM
One of the sons of Duke Friedrich and duchess Charlotte

Duke JOSEPH Georg Friedrich Ernst Karl 1789-1868 married 1817 Amalie Dss of Württemberg 1799-1848

Children

Alexandrine Marie Wilhelmine Katharine Charlotte Therese Henriette Luise Pauline Elisabeth Friederike Georgine 1818-1907 married 1843 King Georg V of Hannover 1819-1878

Pauline Friederike Henriette Auguste  
1819-1825

Henriette Friederike Therese Elisabeth  
1823-1915  

Elisabeth Pauline Alexandrine  
1826-1896 married 1852 Peter II, Grand Duke of Oldenburg 1827-1900

Alexandra Friederike Henriette Pauline Marianne Elisabeth 1830-1911 married 1848 Constantine, Grand Duke of Russia 1827-1892

Luise  
1832-1833

Here a painting of his family I have posted before: duke Joseph, duchess Amalie and their daughters Elisabeth (grandduchess of Oldenburg) Therese (not married) and Marie (queen of Hannover) all looking at another painting possibly their sister Alexandra (grandduchess Alexandra Iosifowna of Russia).
 
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/JosephandAmalieAltenburgwthdaughter.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 22, 2005, 07:22:19 AM
Duke Ernst l of Sachsen Altenburg

Ernst Friedrich Paul Georg Nikolaus 1826-1908 married 1853 Agnes Pss of Anhalt-Dessau 1824-1897

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/hertogvansaksenaltenburg_edited.jpg)

Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 22, 2005, 07:30:18 AM
Duke Ernst ll of Sachsen Altenburg

Ernst Bernhard Georg Johann Karl Friedrich Peter Albert
1871-1955 married 1898 (div 1920) Adelheid Pss zu Schaumburg-Lippe 1875-1971 married second time 1934 Maria Triebel 1893-1955

Children:

Charlotte Agnes Ernestine Auguste Bathildis Marie Therese Adolfine 1899-1989 married 1919 Sigismund of Prussia 1896-1978

Wilhelm Georg Moritz Ernst Albert  Karl Konstantin Eduard Max 1900-1991

Elisabeth Karola Viktoria Adelheid Hilda Luise Alexandra
1903-1991

Friedrich Ernst Karl August Albert 1905-1985

Luise Charlotte Marie Agnes 1873-1953 married 1895  (div 1918)  Eduard, Duke of Anhalt  1861-1918

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/ernst2saxe1871.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/adeheidvanschaumburg.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Danjel on December 24, 2005, 04:06:54 PM
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Portrait of Duke Friedrich von Sachsen-Altenburg!p.s.The portrait witch schould be Agnes is not hers,but of her mother Princess Friederike von Anhalt-Dessau,born Princess of Prussia(daughter of Queen Friederike von Hannover)!


Here is Agnes

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/DuchessAgnes.jpg)

one more
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/DuchessAgnes1.jpg)

Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Danjel on December 24, 2005, 04:08:06 PM
Duchess Agnes with her husband

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/DuchessAgneswithherhusband.jpg
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Danjel on December 24, 2005, 04:11:32 PM
Duke Ernst 1

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/DukeErnstI.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/Saxe-AltenburgDukeErnstb.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/Saxe-AltenburgDukeErnstI1826-1908.jpg
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Danjel on December 24, 2005, 04:14:11 PM
Duke Ernst II

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/DukeErnstIIa.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/DukeErnstIIb.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/DukeErnstIIc.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/Saxe-AltenburgDUkeErnstIIandfamily.jpg
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Danjel on December 24, 2005, 04:14:51 PM
his wife Adelheid

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/Saxe-AltenburgAdelheid.jpg)

Unfortunately I have no picture of his second wife
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Danjel on December 24, 2005, 04:16:42 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/Saxe-AltenburgPrinceGeorgMoritz.jpg

Their son Georg Moritz
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Danjel on December 24, 2005, 04:25:42 PM
Georg, Duke of Saxe-Altenburg (1796-1853)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/DukeGeorg.jpg

Moritz, Prce von Saxe-Altenburg (1829-1907)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/MritzPrincevonSaxe-Altenburg.jpg
with his wife Auguste
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/MRITZvSACHSEN-ALTENB.jpg

Therese, Prss of Saxe-Altenburg (1823-1915)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/daan73/Saxe-AltenburgPrincessTherese.jpg
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Marc on December 24, 2005, 07:34:14 PM
Does anybody have some more informations,pictures or maybe portraits(witch I doubt  :-[ ) of Duchess Helene von Sachsen-Altenburg,born Duchess von Mecklenburg-Strelitz
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 26, 2005, 04:10:23 AM
Danjel, thank you very much for your postings. Is there any information about the family relations of the Sachsen Altenburg family?
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 27, 2005, 02:13:47 PM
Duke JOSEPH Georg Friedrich Ernst Karl 1789-1868 married 1817 Amalie Dss of Württemberg 1799-1848

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/MEMBERSOFTHESAXE-ALTENBURGFAMILYDUK.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/joseph.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/MEMBERSOFTHESAXE-ALTENBURGFAMILYELI.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/AMALIEDUCHESSOFSAXE-ALTENBURG_edite.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 27, 2005, 02:24:30 PM
GEORG Karl Friedrich, Duke of Saxe-Altenburg 1796-1853
married 1825 Maria Duchess of Mecklenburg-Schwerin 1803-1862

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/GeorgPrinceofSaxe-Altenburgportrait.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/hertoggeorg.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/marievanmecklenburgschwerin1803-186.jpg)
Title: Sachsen Altenburg family Ernst ll
Post by: thijs on December 27, 2005, 02:35:14 PM
Ernst Bernhard Georg Johann Karl Friedrich Peter Albert
1871-1955 married 1898 (divorced 1920) Adelheid Pss zu Schaumburg-Lippe 1875-1971

Their children:

Charlotte Agnes Ernestine Auguste Bathildis Marie Therese Adolfine 1899-1989 married 1919 to Sigismund prince of Prussia 1896-1978

Wilhelm GEORG MORITZ Ernst Albert  Karl Konstantin Eduard Max 1900-1991

Elisabeth Karola Viktoria Adelheid Hilda Luise Alexandra
1903-1991

Friedrich Ernst Karl August Albert 1905-1985


(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/ernstllenfamilie_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 27, 2005, 02:42:30 PM
Antoinette Charlotte Marie Josephine Karoline Frida 1838-1908 of Sachsen Altenburg married 1854 Friedrich I Duke of Anhalt 1831-1904

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/antoinettevanaltenburg1838-1908gehu.jpg)

Her parents were:

Eduard Karl Wilhelm Christian of Sachsen Altenburg 1804-1852 married 1836 princess Amalie of Hohenzollern Sigmaringen 1815-1841 married secondly 1842 to Luise princess Reuss Greiz 1822-1875

Their children:

Therese Amalie Karoline Josephine Antoinette 1836-1914 married 1864  to August prince of Sweden 1831-1873

Antoinette Charlotte Marie Josephine Karoline Frida 1838- 1908 married 1854 to Friedrich I Duke of Anhalt
1831-1904

Ludwig Joseph Karl Georg Friedrich 1839-1844

Johann Friedrich Joseph Karl 1841-1844

Albert Heinrich Joseph Carl Viktor Georg Friedrich 1843 1902 married 1885 Marie princess of Prussia 1855-1888 (who was widow of prince Henry of the Netherlands) and married secondly 1891 to Helene duchess of Mecklenburg 1857-1936
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 27, 2005, 03:05:18 PM
Elisabeth Pauline Alexandrine 1826-1896 married 1852 Peter II, Grand Duke of Oldenburg 1827-1900  
  
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/MEMBERSOFTHESAXE-ALTENBURGFAMILYDUC.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 27, 2005, 03:12:30 PM
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Portrait of Duke Friedrich von Sachsen-Altenburg!p.s.The portrait witch schould be Agnes is not hers,but of her mother Princess Friederike von Anhalt-Dessau,born Princess of Prussia(daughter of Queen Friederike von Hannover)!


(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/AGNESDUCHESSOFSAXE-ALTENBURGAFTERFR.jpg)


Thanks Marc, didn`t know that.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: regensburg on December 28, 2005, 05:59:37 PM
Before Friedrich of Saxe-Altenburg the family was known as Saxe-Hildburghausen for four generations. Does anybody have any portraits of these earlier members of the family?
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 29, 2005, 06:36:07 AM
Ernst der Fromme

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/ErnstdenFromme1601-1675hertogvansak.jpg)

Friedrich Wilhelm l

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/FriedrichWilhelmI.jpg)

Do you have the genealogy of the Sachsen Hildburghausen? If you do would you please post it because I am not quite sure if the family members I post are from the Hildburghausen (Altenburg)  line? The line Sachsen Coburg Gotha was also named Sachsen Gotha Altenburg but I don`t know who is who from both lines.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 29, 2005, 06:53:17 AM
DUCHESS LOUISE OF SAXE-HILDBURGHAUSEN, DAUGHTER OF KING CHRISTIAN VI OF DENMARK (1726-1756)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/DUCHESSLOUISEOFSAXE-HILDBURGHAUSEND.jpg)

Duke Ludwig Friedrich von Sachsen-Hildburghausen (1710–1759) Governor of the city of Nijmegen (the Netherlands) and burried in the St. Stephens church of Nijmegen

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/ludwigPrinsLudwigFriedrichvonSachse.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 29, 2005, 07:01:20 AM
Friedrich lV of Sachsen Hildburghausen (thanks Marc for this one). But I am not sure wether this is one is an ancestor of the Sachsen Altenburg line or of the Sachsen Coburg Gotha line?

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/FriedrichIV.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 29, 2005, 07:10:30 AM
CHARLOTTE 1769-1818 PRINCESS OF MECKLENBURG-STRELITZ MARRIED TO FRIEDRICH DUKE OF SAXE-HILDBURGHAUSEN, LATER SACHSEN ALTENBURG

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/FRIEDRICHDUKEOFSAXE-HILDBURGHAUSENP.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 29, 2005, 08:08:36 AM
Therese Charlotte Luise von Sachsen-Hildburghausen later Sachsen Altenburg. She was known as Therese queen of Bavaria, born 8 Juli 1792 in Seidingstadt Jagdschloss died 26 Oktober 1854  München.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/ThereseCharlotteLuisevonSachsen-Hil.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/ThereseKoniginvonBayern08.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 29, 2005, 08:17:33 AM

FRIEDRICH 1763-1834 married 1785 to Charlotte duchess of Mecklenburg-Strelitz 1769-1818. Charlotte was sister of queen Louise of Prussia, queen Marie of Hannover and Therese, furstin von Thurn und Taxis.
Their children

1.      Joseph Georg Karl Friedrich 1786-1786

2.      Katharina Charlotte Georgine Friederike Sophie Therese 1787-1847 married 1805 to Paul prince of Württemberg 1785-1852

3.      Charlotte Auguste  born and died Hildburghausen 29 Jul 1788
 
4.      JOSEPH Georg Friedrich Ernst Karl 1789-1868 married 1817 Amalie Dss of Württemberg 1799-1848

5.      Luise Friederike Marie Karoline Auguste Christiane
18 January 1791-25 March 1791

6.             Therese Charlotte Luise Friederike Amalie 1792-1854 married 1810 to King Ludwig I of Bavaria
1786-1868

7.            Charlotte Luise Friederike Amalie Alexandrine
1794-1825 married 1814 to Wilhelm Duke of Nassau-Weilburg 1792-1839

8.            Franz Friedrich Karl Ludwig Georg Heinrich 1795-1800

9.           GEORG Karl Friedrich Duke of Sachsen-Altenburg
1796-1853 married 1825 to Maria Duchess of Mecklenburg-Schwerin 1803-1862

10.             Friedrich Wilhelm Karl Joseph Ludwig Georg
1801-1870

11.            Maximilian Karl Adolf Heinrich
19 February1803-29 March 1803

12.            Eduard Karl Wilhelm Christian 1804-1852 married Sigmaringen 1835 to Amalie Princess von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen 1815-1841 maried secondly  1842 to Louise princess ReussGreiz 1822-1875

Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: regensburg on December 29, 2005, 09:23:21 AM
Friedrich IV (1774-1825) was of the Sachsen-Gotha line, his grandfather Friedrich III was brother-in-law to Lewis ,Prince of Wales.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: allanraymond on December 29, 2005, 06:47:51 PM
"thijs" asked for the genealogy of the Sachsen Hildburghausen?

Perhaps the following link may be of some help:
http://genroy.free.fr/

It is possible to go back to the start of the Ernestine Line (i.e. Ernst,  1441-1486) and then wok forward to the various sub divisions such as Sachsen Gotha Altenburg.

It may also be useful to have access to a book such as Louda's Line of Succession to help untangle the various sub divisions of the Ernestine branch of the Saxony family.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 30, 2005, 07:46:44 AM
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Therese Charlotte Luise von Sachsen-Hildburghausen later Sachsen Altenburg. She was known as Therese queen of Bavaria, born 8 Juli 1792 in Seidingstadt Jagdschloss died 26 Oktober 1854  München.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/ThereseCharlotteLuisevonSachsen-Hil.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/ThereseKoniginvonBayern08.jpg)


LUDWIG I August King of Bavaria 1786-1868  married 1810 Therese princess of Sachsen Hildburghausen 1792-1854

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/2005-12-29-1559-01_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 30, 2005, 07:49:32 AM
Quote
"thijs" asked for the genealogy of the Sachsen Hildburghausen?

Perhaps the following link may be of some help:
http://genroy.free.fr/

It is possible to go back to the start of the Ernestine Line (i.e. Ernst,  1441-1486) and then wok forward to the various sub divisions such as Sachsen Gotha Altenburg.

It may also be useful to have access to a book such as Louda's Line of Succession to help untangle the various sub divisions of the Ernestine branch of the Saxony family.


Thanks Allanraymond. I will try and dig it out. Looks complex these Sachsen familie ties.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 30, 2005, 07:59:56 AM
Therese queen of Bavaria born ad Therese Sachsen-Hildburghausen later Sachsen Altenburg. She was born 8 Juli 1792 in Seidingstadt Jagdschloss died 26 Oktober 1854  München.  


(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/2005-12-29-1603-08_edited.jpg)
Title: The sisters of Duchess Charlotte
Post by: thijs on December 30, 2005, 08:04:22 AM
Friedrich duke of Sachsen Hildburghausen 1763-1834 married 1785 to Charlotte duchess of Mecklenburg-Strelitz 1769-1818. Charlotte was one of the four beautifull Mecklenburg Strelitz sisters. Next to Charlotte duchess of Sachsen Altenburg was her sister queen Louise of Prussia, queen Marie of Hannover and Therese, furstin von Thurn und Taxis.

Charlotte, duchess of Sachsen Hldburghausen,  Georgine Luise Friederike 1769-1818 married 1785 Friedrich Duke of Sachsen-Hildburghausen [later Sachsen-Altenburg] 1763-1834

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/2005-12-29-1608-16_edited.jpg)

Therese furstin von Thurn und Taxis 1773-1839 married 1789 Karl Alexander furst von Thurn und Taxis 1770-1827

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/2005-12-29-1604-41_edited.jpg)

Luise, queen of Prussia,  Auguste Wilhelmine Amalie 1776-1810 married 1793 King Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia 1770-1840

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/FA-luise-von-preussen-1.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/Luise-Queen-of-Prussia--C10080436.jpg)

Friederike, queen of Hannover, Karoline Sophie Alexandrine 1778-1841 married first time 1793 Ludwig prince of Prussia 1793-1796 married second time 1798 Friedrich prince zu Solms-Braunfels 1770-1814 married third time 1815 Ernst August I of Hannover 1771-1851

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/frederiekemecklenburgstrelitzgehuwd.jpg)










Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on December 30, 2005, 02:17:30 PM
Eduard  Duke of Sachsen Altenburg Karl Wilhelm Christian 1804-1852 married first time 1835 Amalie princess von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen 1815-1841 married second time 1842 Luise princess Reuss Greiz 1822-1875
 
Their children:

Therese Amalie Karoline Josephine Antoinette 1836-1914 married 1864 August prince of Sweden 1831-1873

Antoinette Charlotte Marie Josephine Karoline Frida 1838-1908 married 1854 Friedrich I Duke of Anhalt 1831-1904

Ludwig Joseph Karl Georg Friedrich 1839-1844

Johann Friedrich Joseph Karl 1841-1844

Albert Heinrich Joseph Carl Viktor Georg Friedrich 1843- 1902 married 1885 Marie princess of Prussia 1855-1888 married 1891 Helene duchess of Mecklenburg 1857-1936

Is there anybody with a picture of prince Albert? This is a photograph of his wife princess Marie of Prussia. She was widow of prince Henry of the Netherlands.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/Afbeelding017_copy_edited.jpg)

Marie Gasparine Amalie Antoinette Karoline Elisabeth Luise 1845-1930 married 1869 Karl Günther furst von Schwarzburg-Sondershausen 1830-1909

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/mariefurstinschazburgsonderhausenge.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on January 02, 2006, 11:11:22 AM
Duke Ernst ll of Sachsen Altenburg and his family

Ernst Bernhard Georg Johann Karl Friedrich Peter Albert
1871-1955 married 1898 (div 1920) Adelheid princess zu Schaumburg-Lippe 1875-1971 married second time 1934 Maria Triebel 1893-1955

Children:

Charlotte Agnes Ernestine Auguste Bathildis Marie Therese Adolfine 1899-1989 married 1919 Sigismund of Prussia 1896-1978  

Wilhelm Georg Moritz Ernst Albert  Karl Konstantin Eduard Max 1900-1991

Elisabeth Karola Viktoria Adelheid Hilda Luise Alexandra
1903-1991

Friedrich Ernst Karl August Albert 1905-1985


(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/ernstllenfamilie_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: The sisters of Duchess Charlotte
Post by: thijs on January 02, 2006, 11:23:08 AM
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Friedrich duke of Sachsen Hildburghausen 1763-1834 married 1785 to Charlotte duchess of Mecklenburg-Strelitz 1769-1818. Charlotte was one of the four beautifull Mecklenburg Strelitz sisters. Next to Charlotte duchess of Sachsen Altenburg was her sister queen Louise of Prussia, queen Marie of Hannover and Therese, furstin von Thurn und Taxis.


Therese furstin von Thurn und Taxis 1773-1839 married 1789 Karl Alexander furst von Thurn und Taxis 1770-1827




The illegitimate daughter of furstin Therese of Thurn und Taxis

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/2005-12-29-1601-36_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: regensburg on January 03, 2006, 05:36:00 AM
Fabulous portrait but what information is there about her ???
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: regensburg on January 03, 2006, 11:32:08 AM
I didn't do that too well sohere's a better version

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c298/regensburg/a112.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on January 04, 2006, 10:53:20 AM
Thanks Regensburg. Helps to understand the history of family lines a lot.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on January 04, 2006, 11:21:34 AM
ERNST I Friedrich Paul Georg Nikolaus, Duke of Sachsen-Altenburg 1826-1908 married 1853 Agnes princess of Anhalt-Dessau 1824-1897

Their children:

Marie Friederike Leopoldine Georgine Auguste Alexandra Elisabeth Therese Josephine Helene Sophie  1854-1898 married  1873 Albrecht ptincess of Prussia 1837-1906

Georg Leopold Ernst Joseph Alexander Friedrich Ludwig Johann Albert born and died 1856

Princess Marie of Sachsen Altenburg and her husband prince Albert of Prussia

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/Afbeelding096.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/albertvanpruisenzoovanprinsesmarian.jpg)


 
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on January 04, 2006, 02:34:46 PM
Other pictures of princess Marie

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/marievansaxealtenburg1854-1898.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/marievansaksenaltenburg1854-1898.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Marc on January 06, 2006, 07:56:36 PM
Crazy and Thijs,great conribution to the thread...lovely portraits!
Title: Re: The sisters of Duchess Charlotte
Post by: thijs on January 14, 2006, 09:34:17 AM
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The illegitimate daughter of furstin Therese of Thurn und Taxis

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/2005-12-29-1601-36_edited.jpg)

The portrait is by Joseph Stieler painted in 1828. She is Amalie "freein" Von Kruedener 1808-1888. She was born out of wedlock and her mother was Furstin Therese von Thurn und Taxis, sister of queen Therese of Bavaria. Her father was Count Maximilian Von Lerchenfeld. She was adopted by countess Lerchenfeld-Kofering in Regensburg. She married Freiherr von Kruedener consul at  the Russian embassy in Munich. The second time she married count Nikolaus Adlerberg, "adjudant" of the Tsar whom she knew as she was lady of honour of the Tsarina in St. petersburg. It is likely that queen Therese of Bavaria (her aunt) interfered in her well being, as Therese did with all her family members. Queen Therese was very popular in Bavaria and liked for her good nature and interest in all people.


Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: dboro on January 19, 2006, 06:13:41 AM
Agnes, Duchess of Sachsen-Altenburg with Friedrich I von Anhalt and Princess Maria Anna in 1849

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/mi00419g08b.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: dboro on January 19, 2006, 06:26:32 AM
Ernst Friedrich III von Sachsen-Hildburghausen
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/efr3.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: dboro on January 19, 2006, 06:30:48 AM
Ernst II von Sachsen Gotha und Altenburg (1745-1804)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/dboro/gg3464_085b.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: thijs on January 20, 2006, 07:50:38 AM
Great dboro, thanks very much!
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Martin on January 23, 2007, 03:02:38 PM

 In Russia she was blamed for not converting to the orthodox faith.After the Russian revolution when  most of her children were killed in the most horrendous (much worse than the emporor and his family) way she was invited by Queen Victoria of Sweden to stay for some years in Stockholm. She then returned to Altenburg where she is buried. Her husband revealed in his diary recently opened that  he was gay although they had nine children together.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 23, 2007, 07:49:07 PM
Guess he did fulfill his duty to her.  ;)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: HerrKaiser on January 25, 2007, 01:54:18 PM

 In Russia she was blamed for not converting to the orthodox faith.After the Russian revolution when  most of her children were killed in the most horrendous (much worse than the emporor and his family) way she was invited by Queen Victoria of Sweden to stay for some years in Stockholm. She then returned to Altenburg where she is buried. Her husband revealed in his diary recently opened that  he was gay although they had nine children together.

What was the horrible means by which her children were killed by the Communists?
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Martin on January 25, 2007, 03:09:30 PM
They were thrown alive into a n mine pit in the Ural mountains to die there. Their bodies were late recovered by the white army and brought to China and at least some of them were brought back to Europe as far as I have understood.   
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Martin on January 25, 2007, 03:52:20 PM
Can I ask another question about the Sachsen-Altenburg family? The younger brother Friedrich of the dukes Joseph and George (all first cousins of Tsar Alexander and of King George of Hannover and duke of Cumberland, second cousins of Queen Victoria of G.B.and brothers of Queen Thérèse of Bavaria) is unknown in history but for one thing. He was engaged around 1825 (I do not have my documents available at this moment) to lady Elisabeth Talbot , daugter of the earl of Shrewsbury. Queen Adelaide of G. B. gave a big engagement party in honor of their engagement for a lot of royalties. I have read a report in the Times. The brother in-law of the groom to be prince Friedrich, King Ludwig I of Bavaria declared Elisabeth princess of Bavaria. This is repored in Almanch de Gotha. Probably because otherwise the marriage would have been considered morganatic. The wedding  nether took place, however, and all official sorces are silent about why.  I think the reason might have been religion.  Lady Elisabeth later marrying Prince Doria Pamphhiliy in Rome after her sister Gwendoleen had married a Prince Borgia. Prince Friedrich never married but lived long enough to see all but one of his eleven siblings to die befor e him
Anyone has any idea?
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: grandduchessella on January 25, 2007, 06:55:11 PM

 In Russia she was blamed for not converting to the orthodox faith.After the Russian revolution when  most of her children were killed in the most horrendous (much worse than the emporor and his family) way she was invited by Queen Victoria of Sweden to stay for some years in Stockholm. She then returned to Altenburg where she is buried. Her husband revealed in his diary recently opened that  he was gay although they had nine children together.

What was the horrible means by which her children were killed by the Communists?

Poor Mavra probably suffered more than any other surviving Romanov. Her son, Oleg, killed in the war, along with her son-in-law, Prince Bagration. Her husband, to whom she was devoted, dying fairly young, partially due to grief--though this spared him likely execution later on. Three of her sons killed, along with Grand Duchess Elizabeth, in the Urals--a slow death though I don't know if it was much worse than the Imperial family. Her brother-in-law, Dmitri, executed along with other Grand Dukes. A second son-in-law (and aide to GD Dmitri) dying of illness soon after his marriage--done mostly to help protect Mavra's daughter, the widowed Tatiana. Out of one of the largest families in the Romanov clan, 9 children, she was left by 1919 with 4 surviving children and only descendants from her son Ivan and daughter Tatiana--and there are few of them at that and none in the male line anymore. And all the tragedies came after losing a child in infancy.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 25, 2007, 08:46:32 PM
I wonder about Marva's last years and her relationship with her own family... ???
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: grandduchessella on January 25, 2007, 09:24:57 PM
I was disappointed there wasn't more in either Flight of the Romanovs. I can't remember how much was in Gilded Prism--I'll have to get it out.

She was at least buried with her Altenburg relatives so there was some relationship there.

The Saxe-Altenburg cemetary (courtesy of royaltyguide.nl--a great site)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/entrance.jpg)(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/plate.jpg)

Mavra's grave:

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/186520Elisabeth-2.jpg)(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/186520Elisabeth-1.jpg)
Title: Sachsen Altenburg family...Correction
Post by: Martin on January 26, 2007, 03:13:09 AM
Can I ask another question about the Sachsen-Altenburg family? The younger brother Friedrich of the dukes Joseph and George (all first cousins of Tsar Alexander and of King George of Hannover and duke of Cumberland, second cousins of Queen Victoria of G.B.and brothers of Queen Thérèse of Bavaria) is unknown in history but for one thing. He was engaged around 1825 (I do not have my documents available at this moment) to lady Elisabeth Talbot , daugter of the earl of Shrewsbury. Queen Adelaide of G. B. gave a big engagement party in honor of their engagement for a lot of royalties. I have read a report in the Times. The brother in-law of the groom to be prince Friedrich, King Ludwig I of Bavaria declared Elisabeth princess of Bavaria. This is repored in Almanch de Gotha. Probably because otherwise the marriage would have been considered morganatic. The wedding  nether took place, however, and all official sorces are silent about why.  I think the reason might have been religion.  Lady Elisabeth later marrying Prince Doria Pamphhiliy in Rome after her sister Gwendoleen had married a Prince Borgia. Prince Friedrich never married but lived long enough to see all but one of his eleven siblings to die befor e him
Anyone has any idea?

Apart from usual spelling mistakes I wrote a lot of wrong things. Lady Talbot's name was not Elisabeth but Mary Alathea and her sister did not marry a Borgia  (that would have been fun) but a Borghese. Very sorry
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: ashdean on January 26, 2007, 09:00:42 AM
I was disappointed there wasn't more in either Flight of the Romanovs. I can't remember how much was in Gilded Prism--I'll have to get it out.

She was at least buried with her Altenburg relatives so there was some relationship there.

The Saxe-Altenburg cemetary (courtesy of royaltyguide.nl--a great site)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/entrance.jpg)(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/plate.jpg)

Mavra's grave:

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/186520Elisabeth-2.jpg)(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/186520Elisabeth-1.jpg)
Despite the constant searches & the 8 days on the Baltic...Mavra was lucky to get out of Russia with her two youngest children,grandchildren & Prince & Princess Shakhovskoy.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on January 28, 2007, 08:04:29 PM
Indeed...Was she close to her children ?  ???
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Teddy on February 16, 2007, 01:53:42 PM
Are there also some books on the Sachsen Altenburg family between 1850-1930?
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on February 19, 2007, 08:30:57 AM
The best bet are aither German or Russian books... ::)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on August 13, 2007, 12:48:59 PM
I am searching for any extra info and pictures on

Princess  Margarete (1867-1882) of Saxe-Altenburg,3d daughter of Prince Moritz and sister of GDss Elizaveta Mavrikievna (Mavra) of Russia.

Also I'd like to see pics of Princesses Olga and Maria of Saxe-Altenburg, daughters of Prince Albert of Saxe-Altenburg and Princess Marie of Preussen (in her 1st marriage Princess of Holland). These Princesses had been raised by their stepmother Princess Elena (nee Princess of Mecklenbourg-Strelitz of a Russian branch) and spent a lof of time in Russia..and I can't find extra info on them except that they loved their stepmother deeply and married to Germans.

Olga (1886-1955) - married Count von PÜCKLER BURGHAUSS
Maria (1888-1947) -  married Prince Heinrich XXXV REUß zu KÖSTRITZ.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: ImperialHighness on August 14, 2007, 01:12:28 AM
[img][http://www.royaltyguide.nl/.../hhzkings2.htm]

I have found a photo of the girls mother Maria. And I have a photo of Margarethe, but I m not pretty sure if that s her and so I ll not post it here.
There is a good book about the Wettiner (House of Saxe- Altenburg), but it s in German. There are a lot of old photos and paintings inside.
So this is just what I read- Margarethe died while she was iceskating with her sister on a pond. Before someone could help her she drowned.

Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: ImperialHighness on August 14, 2007, 01:13:43 AM
I have to apologize, but I m not able to post photos, I have tried it for four times now- Women and technics!!! ;)
But you can see the URL.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on August 14, 2007, 01:50:00 AM
[img][http://www.royaltyguide.nl/.../hhzkings2.htm]

I have found a photo of the girls mother Maria. And I have a photo of Margarethe, but I m not pretty sure if that s her and so I ll not post it here.
There is a good book about the Wettiner (House of Saxe- Altenburg), but it s in German. There are a lot of old photos and paintings inside.
So this is just what I read- Margarethe died while she was iceskating with her sister on a pond. Before someone could help her she drowned.



Yes, I have some photos of Princess Maria, mother of Olga and Maria, but never seen any pictures of the daughters' themselves.
As for Margarete, well, I read that she died after an illness :-\. What's the book on the Wettiner you mentioned?
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: dmitri on August 14, 2007, 02:59:04 AM
Well that particular family was pretty obscure without any great importance! The Saxe-Altenburg castle in Altenburg is rather interesting to visit. Altenburg is a very small town.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 14, 2007, 03:09:40 AM
Yet it provided Russia with successive brides.  ;)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: dmitri on August 14, 2007, 03:12:55 AM
yes to minor members of the imperial family ..  .. brides for Tsars as follows came from the family in brackets- Nicholas II (Hesse-Darmstadt) , not Alexander III (Denmark), not Alexander II (Hesse-Darmstadt), not Nicholas I (Prussia) ... hardly brides of great importance were attached to the Saxe-Altenburg family.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 14, 2007, 04:19:10 AM
Well...Princess Dagmar came from the House of Glucksborg. She was considered before she became Princess of Denmark. Also are Baden, Mecklenberg-Schwerin and Wurttemberg. :o
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: dmitri on August 14, 2007, 07:03:56 AM
Yes and her sister was already bride to the Prince of Wales and her brother King George I of Greece and it was known her father would be King of Denmark. In fact she was a most eligible catch and was wanted by Alexander II and Maria Alexandrovna for their eldest son. Sadly he died before a marriage could be arranged and his brother Alexander took her for his bride instead.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on August 14, 2007, 08:17:30 PM
Exactly ! Dagmar got along with both Saxe-Alenburg women (Sanny & Marva).  ;)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: dmitri on August 15, 2007, 12:46:54 AM
Of course the Empress and later Dowager Empress had good relations with junior members of the imperial family. They had no doubt that she was the important one and not them.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: ImperialHighness on August 15, 2007, 01:27:33 AM
Well, I can really recommend these books- Die Herrscher Sachsens. Markgrafen, Kurfürsten, Könige 1089 - 1918 by Frank-Lothar Kroll and Die Wettiner by Rainer Groß. The last book will be re-published soon, I think in October 2007.
I have a huge book about the genealogy of the Royal families in Europe, but I could not find anything about Marie, the Princess of Prussia and the daughters, like Olga. Can someone give me a hint- I mean about Marie of Prussias parents. I can t find the line in my book. But I m sure that I can find it.
Or was Marie (1855- 1888) the widow of Heinrich of the Netherlands? Then I can find her easily and I have an old engraving of her.
Sorry, there are so many lines and names and if you search for something...one can really get confused. ;)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on August 15, 2007, 01:48:39 AM
Well, I can really recommend these books- Die Herrscher Sachsens. Markgrafen, Kurfürsten, Könige 1089 - 1918 by Frank-Lothar Kroll and Die Wettiner by Rainer Groß. The last book will be re-published soon, I think in October 2007.
I have a huge book about the genealogy of the Royal families in Europe, but I could not find anything about Marie, the Princess of Prussia and the daughters, like Olga. Can someone give me a hint- I mean about Marie of Prussias parents. I can t find the line in my book. But I m sure that I can find it.
Or was Marie (1855- 1888) the widow of Heinrich of the Netherlands? Then I can find her easily and I have an old engraving of her.
Sorry, there are so many lines and names and if you search for something...one can really get confused. ;)

Yes, Marie (1855-88) was the widow of that Holland prince and a daughter of the notoriuos Prince Friedrich Karl of Prussia (Red Prince) and his wife Princess Marianne of Anhalt.

Thanks for mentioning the books, hope I'll find them sooner or later.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on September 05, 2007, 05:31:20 AM


Also I'd like to see pics of Princesses Olga and Maria of Saxe-Altenburg, daughters of Prince Albert of Saxe-Altenburg and Princess Marie of Preussen (in her 1st marriage Princess of Holland).

Olga (1886-1955) - married Count von PÜCKLER BURGHAUSS
Maria (1888-1947) -  married Prince Heinrich XXXV REUß zu KÖSTRITZ.

Seems I have to answer my own question  :)...Very often the group-shots are clues to the puzzles. I've found the Princesses in the wedding photo of Tsar Ferdinand of Bulgaria (and his second wife).

Princess Maria of Saxe-Altenburg

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/mariasaxe.jpg)

Princess Olga of Saxe-Altenburg

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/olgasaxe.jpg)

Their features are the interesting "mixture" of a Prussian mother and a Saxe-Altenburg father. :)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Princess Jil on March 07, 2008, 10:26:37 AM
Is King Friedrich August of Sachsen part of this family?  If not, then is there a thread that has info on him and his children?  I have an old postcard with the post mark of October 26, 1909.  It shows King Friedrich August sitting at a table having tea with his children.  I don't know the childrens' names.  There are three boys and three girls sitting with their father at the table.  The photo seems to have been taken in "Dresden-Blasewitz 1909".  I would like to know the names of the children and the name of their mother.  I seem to come across postcards of this family but I never see their mother in any of them.  Did she died young?  It seems like Friedrich August did not remarry anyone.  Does anybody have info on him and his children?  Perhaps point me to a thread that does have the info I seek?  Thank you.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: CharlotteSometimes on March 07, 2008, 11:27:45 AM
I don't know if he is part of that family (the information I found says he was of the House of Wettin) but here are the names of his children:

Friedrich August Georg, Crown Prince of Saxony (1893- 1943) Became a Jesuit priest and renounced his rights in 1923--assassinated by the SS.
Friedrich Christian, Margrave of Meissen, Duke of Saxony (1893-1968). 
Ernst Heinrich, Prince of Saxony (1896 - 1971).
stillborn daughter, 1898
Margarete Carola Wilhelmine (1900 - 1962).
Maria Alix Luitpolda (1901 - 1990).
Anna Pia Monika (1903 - 1976). She is said to be the product of his wife's affair, but Friederich August raised her as his own.

Note the two oldest boys were born in 1893, the first in January and the second in December.  He married Archduchess Luise, Princess of Tuscany, in 1891.  In 1903 she ran away, pregnant with the last child, Anna Pia Monika.  He then divorced her.  He seems like a nice guy, with a wonderful sense of humor.  While standing at a railway station, dressed in his uniform, a woman commanded him to move her trunk for her.  He replied, "Madame, I am not a porter.  I only look like one."

For more information, try looking at the thread, "Re: Kings and Spouses of Saxony".
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Princess Jil on March 07, 2008, 12:27:03 PM
Thank you CharlotteSometimes for the info.  I always wondered why I never saw a woman with this family.  I assumed that perhaps she died of a health problem.

I would love to post the postcard that I mentioned here.  But I am having trouble figuring out how to link the photo from Photobucket to this forum.  I understand that I need to change the "IMG" to "img" but I can not seem to do it on Photobucket.  Whenever I click on the address, I get: "copied to Clipboard".  What is "Clipboard"?  I can not find the help I need on the Photobucket website.  I have checked out my problem on their "Help" section but it does not mention a "Clipboard".  Can you help me?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Alexandrina-Sofia on June 10, 2008, 12:54:53 AM
I am searching pictures on Katharina Charlotte Georgine Friederike Sophie Therese Pss of Sachsen Hildburghausen (1787-1847) married 1805 to Paul prince of Württemberg (1785-1852).
She is a mother GDss Helene Paulovna, wife GD Mikhail Pavlovich
Help me.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: José on June 13, 2008, 11:26:03 AM
And I am looking for a pic. of her aunt Sophie (1760-76) first wife of Franz Friederich of Saxe Coburg Saalfeld.

Thanks in advance

José
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: berno on September 21, 2009, 02:00:59 PM
One of the sons of Duke Friedrich and duchess Charlotte

Duke JOSEPH Georg Friedrich Ernst Karl 1789-1868 married 1817 Amalie Dss of Württemberg 1799-1848
 
Children
 
Alexandrine Marie Wilhelmine Katharine Charlotte Therese Henriette Luise Pauline Elisabeth Friederike Georgine 1818-1907 married 1843 King Georg V of Hannover 1819-1878
 
Pauline Friederike Henriette Auguste  
1819-1825
 
Henriette Friederike Therese Elisabeth  
1823-1915  
 
Elisabeth Pauline Alexandrine  
1826-1896 married 1852 Peter II, Grand Duke of Oldenburg 1827-1900
 
Alexandra Friederike Henriette Pauline Marianne Elisabeth 1830-1911 married 1848 Constantine, Grand Duke of Russia 1827-1892
 
Luise  
1832-1833

Here a painting of his family I have posted before: duke Joseph, duchess Amalie and their daughters Elisabeth (grandduchess of Oldenburg) Therese (not married) and Marie (queen of Hannover) all looking at another painting possibly their sister Alexandra (grandduchess Alexandra Iosifowna of Russia).
  
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/JosephandAmalieAltenburgwthdaughter.jpg)

I am just back from a trip to Germany. I visited several locations (Halle, Leipzig, Dresden and Altenburg). I really enjoyed Altenburg. The schloss is a museum and the people who work there are so kind and helpfull. I made some great photo's of portraits. I will put them here in short time.

For instance: we got an explanation of this painting by our tour guide (an pensioned woman professor in history and native Altenburg citizen). She knew so much about the Altenburg family and the history of the "Wettiners". But for now the portraits: the 2 princesses on the right are standing as we got explained because they were unmarried (they are Elisabeth, later grandduchess of Oldenburg and on the very right princess Therese). Onlu married princesses could be painted sitiing she told us. Also they both wear shawls (is not the right word am afraid) around there waistes (with a rosa design) to let know that they were still virgins. Also the tour guide told us that princessTherese never married because she took care of her mother (at the time the painting was made in 1848 princess Amalia was already very sick and one year later she died) and later on Therese took care of her father. She was said to be the most prettiest of the four daughters and Napoleon lll wanted to marry her but she refused because she wanted to stay unmarried and she lived the rest of her live in the Schloss of Altenburg.
I just wanted to share this with you because I always wondered why Therese never married and there was so little known of her live and it seemed that nobody could provide any information about her at all.


Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Marc on September 21, 2009, 05:45:14 PM
Thank you for your report,very interesting to know such things...I always thought why Therese never married since her sisters married well...can't wait to see your pictures ;)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Marc on October 08, 2009, 11:45:41 AM
One of the sons of Duke Friedrich and duchess Charlotte

Duke JOSEPH Georg Friedrich Ernst Karl 1789-1868 married 1817 Amalie Dss of Württemberg 1799-1848
 
Children
 
Alexandrine Marie Wilhelmine Katharine Charlotte Therese Henriette Luise Pauline Elisabeth Friederike Georgine 1818-1907 married 1843 King Georg V of Hannover 1819-1878
 
Pauline Friederike Henriette Auguste  
1819-1825
 
Henriette Friederike Therese Elisabeth  
1823-1915  
 
Elisabeth Pauline Alexandrine  
1826-1896 married 1852 Peter II, Grand Duke of Oldenburg 1827-1900
 
Alexandra Friederike Henriette Pauline Marianne Elisabeth 1830-1911 married 1848 Constantine, Grand Duke of Russia 1827-1892
 
Luise  
1832-1833

Here a painting of his family I have posted before: duke Joseph, duchess Amalie and their daughters Elisabeth (grandduchess of Oldenburg) Therese (not married) and Marie (queen of Hannover) all looking at another painting possibly their sister Alexandra (grandduchess Alexandra Iosifowna of Russia).
  
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/JosephandAmalieAltenburgwthdaughter.jpg (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/bernogreat/JosephandAmalieAltenburgwthdaughter.jpg)

I am just back from a trip to Germany. I visited several locations (Halle, Leipzig, Dresden and Altenburg). I really enjoyed Altenburg. The schloss is a museum and the people who work there are so kind and helpfull. I made some great photo's of portraits. I will put them here in short time.

For instance: we got an explanation of this painting by our tour guide (an pensioned woman professor in history and native Altenburg citizen). She knew so much about the Altenburg family and the history of the "Wettiners". But for now the portraits: the 2 princesses on the right are standing as we got explained because they were unmarried (they are Elisabeth, later grandduchess of Oldenburg and on the very right princess Therese). Onlu married princesses could be painted sitiing she told us. Also they both wear shawls (is not the right word am afraid) around there waistes (with a rosa design) to let know that they were still virgins. Also the tour guide told us that princessTherese never married because she took care of her mother (at the time the painting was made in 1848 princess Amalia was already very sick and one year later she died) and later on Therese took care of her father. She was said to be the most prettiest of the four daughters and Napoleon lll wanted to marry her but she refused because she wanted to stay unmarried and she lived the rest of her live in the Schloss of Altenburg.
I just wanted to share this with you because I always wondered why Therese never married and there was so little known of her live and it seemed that nobody could provide any information about her at all.





Can't wait for your post and detailed report...
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: synnadene on October 11, 2009, 08:28:31 AM

My two photos about the sisters Marie (Queen of Hannover) and Elisabeth (of Oldenburg)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35828937@N07/3867910514/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35828937@N07/3991205772/
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on October 22, 2009, 09:10:58 AM
Here's a photo of 2 Altenburg Princesses, the images of whom I've been searching. Above in my previous posts - their "formal" poses from a Royal gathering.

Princesses Olga and Marie, daughters of Prince Albert and Princess Marie of Prussia, in Russia in about 1904-1905 year, with their Russian friends:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/marieolgaaltenburgwithntheGolotins1.jpg)

Olga is first from the left, Marie  is third from the left seen only her face in background.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on November 25, 2009, 01:11:06 AM
I am searching for any extra info and pictures on

Princess  Margarete (1867-1882) of Saxe-Altenburg,3d daughter of Prince Moritz and sister of GDss Elizaveta Mavrikievna (Mavra) of Russia.



There is a photo of Princess Margarete with her sisters and mother in the cover of the recent issue of the Royalty Digest Quaterly  .
The Princess definitely had serious problems with her health, she looks ill and as if half-blind.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 28, 2009, 02:22:42 PM
Indeed. Does RD has a story on her this issue ?
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on November 29, 2009, 02:03:40 AM
Indeed. Does RD has a story on her this issue ?

"Indeed" what?? Have you seen Margarete's photo?
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 30, 2009, 12:21:04 PM
I saw it on the link here.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on December 01, 2009, 04:03:11 AM
I saw it on the link here.

There is no  a link HERE to  Margarethe's photo. No one ever posted it here.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 03, 2009, 10:30:32 AM
The one with her on the horse ?
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on December 04, 2009, 01:04:28 AM
The one with her on the horse ?

No. You mix up her with Olga and Marie of Saxe-Altenburg.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on December 04, 2009, 05:17:45 PM
Yes I did as the photo and RD confused me. Thankls for clearing that up.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Marie Valerie on May 24, 2010, 02:45:57 PM
Please help!

Are there any paintings or pics of Charlotte von Sachsen-Hildburghausen-Altenburg 1787-1847, later wife of Paul von Württemberg?
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Rani on May 24, 2010, 03:19:50 PM
I have one of her as a child, I think. It´s from 1800. So it´s not her mother.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/246kgur.jpg)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on November 03, 2010, 02:38:05 PM
I am searching for any extra info and pictures on

Princess  Margarete (1867-1882) of Saxe-Altenburg,3d daughter of Prince Moritz and sister of GDss Elizaveta Mavrikievna (Mavra) of Russia.



There is a photo of Princess Margarete with her sisters and mother in the cover of the recent issue of the Royalty Digest Quaterly  .
The Princess definitely had serious problems with her health, she looks ill and as if half-blind.

Here's a part of the photo I talked about

(http://www.picatom.com/1o/Princess%20Augusta_drs-1-th.jpg) (http://www.picatom.com/1o/Princess%20Augusta_drs-1.html)

Princesses Marianne and Margarete of Saxe-Altenborug. Margarete looks really ill.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Teddy on November 04, 2010, 04:48:40 AM
We know about the reactions from Romanovs and families such as the Hesse and Saxe Coburg Gotha abroad during the period 1917-1919 about the revolution in Russia, and murder of the Imperial Family and other Russian Grand Dukes and Princes.

But how was the reaction of the Saxe-Altenburg family about the revolution and murders, specially because GD Elizabeth M. was Princess of Saxe Altenburg herself and her mother-in-law was also one (so the Konstanovichi branch was much related to the Saxe Altenburg).

Did they try to help GD Elizabeth M and her offspring and the other Konstanovichi Grand Dukes to get out of Russia and what about the reaction about their murders?????
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Marc on November 05, 2010, 09:06:34 PM
I know that Princess Vera Konstantinovna lived with her mother Elizabeth one time in castle of Sachsen-Altenburg family after the revolution...
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on November 06, 2010, 12:01:10 AM
We know about the reactions from Romanovs and families such as the Hesse and Saxe Coburg Gotha abroad during the period 1917-1919 about the revolution in Russia, and murder of the Imperial Family and other Russian Grand Dukes and Princes.

But how was the reaction of the Saxe-Altenburg family about the revolution and murders, specially because GD Elizabeth M. was Princess of Saxe Altenburg herself and her mother-in-law was also one (so the Konstanovichi branch was much related to the Saxe Altenburg).

Did they try to help GD Elizabeth M and her offspring and the other Konstanovichi Grand Dukes to get out of Russia and what about the reaction about their murders?????

As fas as I remember the Princess Vera's memoirs (she once wrote down some details of her Russian life) the help came from Queen Viktoria, spouse of King Gustaf V of Sweden.
So Vera and mother left for Sweden and then moved to Altenbourg. Princess didn't mention any reaction of her Altenbourg relatives. We can only imagine that they were thrilled with all that nightmare in Russia.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on January 05, 2011, 09:21:56 AM
We know about the reactions from Romanovs and families such as the Hesse and Saxe Coburg Gotha abroad during the period 1917-1919 about the revolution in Russia, and murder of the Imperial Family and other Russian Grand Dukes and Princes.

But how was the reaction of the Saxe-Altenburg family about the revolution and murders, specially because GD Elizabeth M. was Princess of Saxe Altenburg herself and her mother-in-law was also one (so the Konstanovichi branch was much related to the Saxe Altenburg).

Did they try to help GD Elizabeth M and her offspring and the other Konstanovichi Grand Dukes to get out of Russia and what about the reaction about their murders?????

As fas as I remember the Princess Vera's memoirs (she once wrote down some details of her Russian life) the help came from Queen Viktoria, spouse of King Gustaf V of Sweden.
So Vera and mother left for Sweden and then moved to Altenbourg. Princess didn't mention any reaction of her Altenbourg relatives. We can only imagine that they were thrilled with all that nightmare in Russia.

Today re-read Vera's short autobio-article and found a fact: they moved to Altenbourg only in 1922. From 1918 till 1920 they lived in Sweden, then old GDss found the life here too much expensive and they moved to Brussels , and in 1922 to the GDss' motherland. And was this only becouse Elizaveta's brother wanted to safe his Palace from other lodgers, as the new German authorities obliged him to settle some clerks (or whoever) in a wing of his Palace. So the Duke quickly offered that wing for living to his sister and her youngest children.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on May 17, 2011, 04:24:32 AM


Also I'd like to see pics of Princesses Olga and Maria of Saxe-Altenburg, daughters of Prince Albert of Saxe-Altenburg and Princess Marie of Preussen (in her 1st marriage Princess of Holland).

Olga (1886-1955) - married Count von PÜCKLER BURGHAUSS
Maria (1888-1947) -  married Prince Heinrich XXXV REUß zu KÖSTRITZ.

Seems I have to answer my own question  :)...Very often the group-shots are clues to the puzzles. I've found the Princesses in the wedding photo of Tsar Ferdinand of Bulgaria (and his second wife).

Princess Maria of Saxe-Altenburg

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/mariasaxe.jpg)



One more of Marie of Saxe-Altenburg, in 1911

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/1911gh.jpg)

And a rare image of her wedding day in 1911, with husband Prince Reuss - who of course was called...Heinrich ))

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/reussmariealtenb.jpg)

courtesy of ANNO database
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Marc on May 17, 2011, 11:50:10 AM
Such interesting pictures of not so known royals.Thank you Sveta ;-)

It is interesting to see the crown she was wearing...does anybody know if it was a crown/coronet of Reuss or Sachsen-Altenburg family?I think Eleonore of Reuss was wearing similar one(if not the same)at her wedding to Ferdinand of Bulgaria...
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on May 17, 2011, 02:04:04 PM
Such interesting pictures of not so known royals.Thank you Sveta ;-)

It is interesting to see the crown she was wearing...does anybody know if it was a crown/coronet of Reuss or Sachsen-Altenburg family?I think Eleonore of Reuss was wearing similar one(if not the same)at her wedding to Ferdinand of Bulgaria...

Eleonore's tiara was not the same. I think Maria wore the Altenburg tiara.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Marc on May 17, 2011, 03:53:28 PM
Thank you...they seem to be a nice looking couple....Are there any records about their marriage?I mean how they met,who was a "matchmaker",was it a love match or not etc.?
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on May 18, 2011, 03:41:10 AM
Thank you...they seem to be a nice looking couple....Are there any records about their marriage?I mean how they met,who was a "matchmaker",was it a love match or not etc.?

I remember I read somewhere in a Russian source (Marie was a step-daughter of a Russian born Helena of Mecklenbourg-Strelitz) that the marriage was arranged. My guess the matchmaker was the Reuss clan, after all her Aunt was Eleonore von Reuss, Tzaritza of Bulgaria. Marie and her sister attended her wedding and in this photo:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/I_c2c_--.jpg)

you can see Marie (behind bride Eleonore) and her future husband, at the bottom of the photo .

Other man I marked (at the very left) is, by the way, future husband of Viktoria Margarethe of Prussia (Agra) - see their wedding photo of 1913 year here:

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=3720.90 (http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=3720.90)



Both Heinrichs were brothers). And Agra attended Marie's wedding in Atenburg in 1911.

Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Marc on May 18, 2011, 06:54:11 AM
Obviously,both families were very well connected with family ties to Prussia,Sachsen-Weimar,Russia,Mecklenburg...
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: jalm on November 12, 2011, 11:04:01 AM
Adjusted three photographs of Maria zu Schaumburg - Lippe née von Sachsen - Altenburg (1864-1918). Married 1882 Prince Georg zu Schaumburg - Lippe. Daughter of Moriitz von Sachsen - Altenburg and Auguste von Sachsen - Meiningen.
One of her while she's a girl. One as a bride and one a little later.

I'll also add these photos to the Schaumburg - Lippe topic in case someone is overlooking them here.....

(http://www.xs4all.nl/~eastwin/alexander-palace/cc8-11.jpg)
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~eastwin/alexander-palace/cc9-11.jpg)
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~eastwin/alexander-palace/cc10-11.jpg)

Greetings,

Jan
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: jalm on November 12, 2011, 11:27:36 AM
Also two photographs of Elisabeth von Sachsen - Altenburg (1865-1927).
She married in 1884 Konstantin Konstantinovich, Grand Duke of Russia.
She was the daughter of Moritz von Sachsen - Altenburg and Auguste von Sachsen - Meiningen.

These photographs can also be found in the topic on Konstantin Konstantinovich.

(http://www.xs4all.nl/~eastwin/alexander-palace/cc11-11.jpg)
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~eastwin/alexander-palace/cc12-11.jpg)

Greetings,

Jan
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Veronica on November 12, 2011, 05:34:26 PM
Jan, great pictures!
Thanks for sharing, I especially like the ones of Elisabeth, as I haven't seen many photographs of her as an unmarried woman.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: José on November 13, 2011, 12:13:11 PM


Also I'd like to see pics of Princesses Olga and Maria of Saxe-Altenburg, daughters of Prince Albert of Saxe-Altenburg and Princess Marie of Preussen (in her 1st marriage Princess of Holland).

Olga (1886-1955) - married Count von PÜCKLER BURGHAUSS
Maria (1888-1947) -  married Prince Heinrich XXXV REUß zu KÖSTRITZ.

Seems I have to answer my own question  :)...Very often the group-shots are clues to the puzzles. I've found the Princesses in the wedding photo of Tsar Ferdinand of Bulgaria (and his second wife).

Princess Maria of Saxe-Altenburg

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/mariasaxe.jpg)

Princess Olga of Saxe-Altenburg

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/olgasaxe.jpg)

Their features are the interesting "mixture" of a Prussian mother and a Saxe-Altenburg father. :)


Any photos of their husbands or their weddings ?

Thanks in advancde
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on November 13, 2011, 12:27:28 PM



Any photos of their husbands or their weddings ?

Thanks in advancde

Jose, in the previous page you can see Marie's wedding photo with her husband.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Svetabel on November 26, 2012, 06:44:28 AM






Any photos of their husbands or their weddings ?

Thanks in advancde

Here's Olga of Saxe-Altenburg in 1913 year, and her husband Count Puckler

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/1912puckler-1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/1912puckler.jpg)

Courtesy of ANNO database
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 26, 2012, 02:06:36 PM
Any info about them ?
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: grandduchessella on November 26, 2012, 05:02:03 PM
"Carl Friedrich Count of Pückler-Burghauss, Baron of Groditz (b. October 7, 1886 in Friedland, Silesia (now Korfantów in Poland) d. 13 May 1945 in Čimelice, Bohemia, today's Czech Republic) was a German politician and Waffen-SS officer in the rank of SS-Gruppenführer and Lieutenant General of the Waffen-SS and member of the German parliament during the Weimar Republic and also a writer, publishing works on hunting and travel.
 
Pückler-Burghauss began his military career as a second lieutenant in the infantry branch during the First World War and won the Iron Cross First and Second Classes. He left the army in 1919 as captain and served with Freikorps units until 1931 when he joined the Nazi Party and the SA and later SS. Pückler-Burghauss was member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party und Officer of the Waffen-SS. Through year 1943 he was a commander of 15th Waffen-SS division on Eastern front and later was a chief of Waffen-SS units in Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia.
 
After Nazi Germany capitulated on May 7, 1945 Pückler-Burghauss refused to surrender to the Soviets and attempted to move the troops under his command into the American occupation zone. The Americans had refused and after heavy fighting (see Battle of Slivice) he was forced to sign capitulation on the night of May 11/12. Shortly afterwards he committed suicide."

The couple had 3 children--2 daughters who married & had children and a son who died in infancy.


http://division.cc/15/Graf%20von%20Puckler%20Burghauss.jpg (photo)

http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/bsb00000008/images/index.html?nativeno=352 (photo)

http://collections.yadvashem.org/photosarchive/s637-469/6308246094171639195.jpg (photo--listed as war criminal)
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 26, 2012, 09:11:24 PM
Thanks for the information. It was a rather tragic life. Was his marriage to Olga happy ? Love to see more pictures of the family. What happen to Olga afterwards ?
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: grandduchessella on November 26, 2012, 10:56:01 PM
Don't know. I just know that she died on 13 Jan 1955 in Munster at age 68. Interestingly, there was a table in 1921 showing that she was 475 in line to the British throne.
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Eric_Lowe on November 26, 2012, 10:58:28 PM
Thanks. Any more info on their children ?
Title: Amalie von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
Post by: José on March 16, 2013, 05:39:57 PM
I've been reading a book on Stephanie of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen "Stephanie of H-S, and Maria Pia of Savoy, two queens loved by the people".

There is a short reference to Pss Amalie von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen (1815-41), married to Pr. Eduard von Saxe-Altenburg.

AFAIK after Amalie's early death her daughter Therese went to live with her H-Sigmaringen relatives and in a letter to her mother Q.Stephanie says "There is nothing here for Therese" (on marriage projects).

Can someone post a picture of Amalie ?

I guess she died (14.January) after the childbirth of Johann (b. 8.January) ?

Apart from Therese, the couple had 3 more children : Antoinette, later Pss von Anhalt and two boys Ludwig and Johann who both died in 1844. Cause of death ?
Title: Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
Post by: Превед on February 19, 2015, 02:10:12 PM
Wow, shocking: I've always thought of Saxe-Altenburg as inherently Thuringian, but I see that most of it (all of the Ostkreis and most of the Westkreis) lies east of the Saale. There are thus plenty of placenames of Slavic / Sorbian origin:
Schmölln - from smola, tar, same as in Smolny!
Gößnitz
Lucka - Luckow?
Zschernitzsch - obviously črnica, something to do with black or dark, whether dark water or blueberries
Dobitschen - originally Dobritschen, from dobry, good
Göhren - from goranye, hill people
Döhlen - from dolyane, valley people
etc.
Title: Re: Amalie von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
Post by: grandduchessella on February 19, 2015, 04:34:26 PM
I've been reading a book on Stephanie of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen "Stephanie of H-S, and Maria Pia of Savoy, two queens loved by the people".

There is a short reference to Pss Amalie von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen (1815-41), married to Pr. Eduard von Saxe-Altenburg.

AFAIK after Amalie's early death her daughter Therese went to live with her H-Sigmaringen relatives and in a letter to her mother Q.Stephanie says "There is nothing here for Therese" (on marriage projects).

Can someone post a picture of Amalie ?

I guess she died (14.January) after the childbirth of Johann (b. 8.January) ?

Apart from Therese, the couple had 3 more children : Antoinette, later Pss von Anhalt and two boys Ludwig and Johann who both died in 1844. Cause of death ?

Given that she died in 1841, there are probably no photos so a portrait/sketch/miniature may be the only likenesses out there.

Amelie was named for her grandmother Princess Amalie Zephyrine of Salm-Kyrburg, considered the 'savior of the Hohenzollerns' as she was extremely wealthy. During the French Revolution, her brother Frederick and her lover, Alexandre de Beauharnais, were executed by guillotine in 1794 and buried in mass graves. Amalie survived the Revolution and in 1797, she used her connections to find out out the location of the graves, which had been kept hidden from the French public. She secretly purchased the land on rue de Picpus and had it opened up to the rest of the garden, which is today called the Picpus Cemetery. She also became friend's with her lover's widow, Josephine Beauharnais. In 1808, after 20 years in Paris, the princess returned to Sigmaringen. Although her husband was still alive and they remained married, they lived amicably apart for the remainder of their lives. She first lived for two years with friends, and then in 1810 moved into a building of the former Inzigkofen Monastery. She finally moved into a residence, "Prinzenbau," that her husband had built for her in Sigmaringen.Following her death at age 81, her son had a cliff on the banks of the Danube in Sigmaringen named the "Amalienfels" in her honor. Her name and the family coat of arms is carved into the rock. (courtesy wikipedia)



As for Therese, despite the dire predictions, she did marry-- in 1864 to Prince August of Sweden & Norway, Duke of Dalarna. He was the youngest of the children of King Oscar I of Sweden and Josephine of Leuchtenberg. August's older brother was  King Carl XV of Sweden. Her father died when she was just 16 (1852) and she went to live with her cousin Marie Hanover (born a princess of Saxe-Altenburg). Theirs was apparently not a physical or romantic marriage but they did get on well together and he affectionately called her 'my little Hopsy-Totsie'.They had no children. Unfortunately, Therese had mental problems and sometimes collapsed. After the death of her husband in 1873 (at age 41 of pneumonia) she was given a guardian but she still fell prey to Ohan Demirgian, a known Armenian con-artist with whom she made an acquaintance in 1869, when his presence at court caused a scandal. "Demirgian was believed to have been a pimp, and now offered himself as her agent in negotiations for a new marriage. In 1875, Fritz von Dardel wrote: The Duchess of Dalarna is now declared to be out of her senses by her relatives in Germany and at their request, she will remain in Switzerland over the winter to be treated by a doctor. She returned to Sweden in 1890, where she resided at Haga Palace. She was then commonly called "The Haga Duchess". She became known for her good kitchen, and ate so much that she was overweight with time. She died in 1914." She can be seen in some later group photographs of the Swedish royal family.



Therese
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Teresia_av_Sachsen-Altenburg_1%28cropped%29.jpg/220px-Teresia_av_Sachsen-Altenburg_1%28cropped%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Amalie von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
Post by: Превед on February 19, 2015, 04:48:34 PM
As for Therese, despite the dire predictions, she did marry-- in 1864 to Prince August of Sweden & Norway, Duke of Dalarna. He was the youngest of the children of King Oscar I of Sweden and Josephine of Leuchtenberg. August's older brother was  King Carl XV of Sweden.

A major street in Oslo is named after her: Thereses gate - and a novel with the title "Sommar i Thereses gate" was recently published, coïncidentially about "those who live a life without being seen", just like the street's nominal patroness. I wonder if anyone walking through it has any idea that Therese was "HRH the Duchess of Dalarna, née HH Princess of Saxe-Altenburg". Not only is the Swedish-Norwegian union so forgotten that most Norwegians can't name any king from that period, but she was a marginal royal even in that context, from a very marginal mini-state.