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Title: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Jebediha on December 26, 2005, 12:21:45 PM
I don`t know if this topic has been discusst before
and if i put it in the rigth place.

But this is the queistion.
Who do you all see as the greatst empress that russia has had.
I Woud say that Empress Elisabeth Alexeevna the wife of Aleksander 1 is the greatst empress
but what do`s the rest of you think.

my english is not that good so i hope you all understand
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Tania+ on December 26, 2005, 01:55:55 PM
IMHO, it was Catherine.

Tatiana
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: ilyala on December 26, 2005, 03:05:53 PM
maybe not the greatest, but i have quite a fascination for empress elizabeth, the daughter of peter the great. :)
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Mandie, the Gothic Empress on December 26, 2005, 03:59:26 PM
Catherine the Great

and for consort

Maria Feodorevna (Minny)
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Svetabel on December 27, 2005, 01:16:52 AM
Catherine the Great  :)
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: PssMarieAmelie on December 27, 2005, 03:27:50 AM
Ekaterina II The Great


and for a consort-- Maria Feodorovna "Minnie" and Aleksandra Feodorovna(the older one)
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: AkshayChavan on December 28, 2005, 08:49:57 AM
I think greatest empress was Catherine the great. A close second would be Elizabeth as she did a lot to promote arts and built many beautifull palaces.
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Prince_Christopher on January 01, 2006, 09:01:44 AM
1. Catherine the Great
2. Elizabeth

Seems to be the concensus here....
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: bell_the_cat on January 03, 2006, 02:01:26 PM
One good thing about the Empress Elizabeth. She abolished the death penalty in Russia. It was later reintroduced - by Peter or Catherine - but it seems to me to be a very enlightened gesture.
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Prince_Lieven on January 03, 2006, 06:23:11 PM
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One good thing about the Empress Elizabeth. She abolished the death penalty in Russia. It was later reintroduced - by Peter or Catherine - but it seems to me to be a very enlightened gesture.


She also threw all Germans out of the government, which pleased enemies of Anna!
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: ilyala on January 03, 2006, 07:30:14 PM
peter must have hated it though :P
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: bell_the_cat on January 04, 2006, 10:48:54 AM
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peter must have hated it though :P


If you mean Peter III, he brought them back before her (admittedly large) corpse was cold.
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: ilyala on January 04, 2006, 01:26:38 PM
not the smartest move :P
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Joy0318 on January 08, 2006, 12:10:23 PM
Catherine the Great. No doubt in my opinion. She was  a shrewd, smart, witty, and capable woman.  One of the greatest female monarchs of all time.
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: imperial angel on April 10, 2006, 11:11:36 AM
Well, from all she did in her reign, it's got to be Catherine the Great as a reighing alone Empress. As for a consort, perhaps Marie Feodorovna, wife of Alexander III, and mother of Nicholas II?
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: gogm on April 10, 2006, 09:56:50 PM
Catherine II "The Great."

Elizabeth for second place.

I agree with Mandie that Maria Fedorovna was a great consort.[smiley=smiley.gif]

I don't know very much at all about the consorts between Catherine the Great and Maria Alexandrovna.
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: russianlover76 on December 05, 2007, 12:01:09 AM
I think that Catherine the great was a better empress of her time and she did help Russia with the welfare for the people with health and homeless problems.
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Empress_Catherine on December 08, 2007, 07:05:33 PM
Catherine the Great!!!!
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: ivanushka on January 21, 2008, 03:54:27 PM
I agree.  Catherine the Great!
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: dmitri on January 22, 2008, 06:43:56 PM
Her female predecessor Elizabeth was pretty great too if you examine the fact that she survived and also her building record. For a woman being a ruler is always tough.
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: DanlScott on April 18, 2008, 06:15:23 PM
I would have to agree with the majority on Catherine The Great being the foremost of the reigning empresses.

As to best consort, I wonder if anyone can make an unbiased opinion.  Much more is known about Marie "Minnie" Feodorovna than the other consorts, not to mention her connection to a family with an iconic status, that it tips the scales unfavorably in her favor.  But I pose a question as to why she might not be the best consort.  Nicholas II was obviously an ineffective tsar; as his mother, does she not bear some of the blame (for his upbringing)?
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on April 30, 2008, 05:41:20 AM
Alexandra Feodorowna - Prinzessin Alix von Hessen und bei Rhein (und wehe es widerspricht jemand von euch Pöttelköppen...)
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Helen on May 25, 2008, 04:50:02 PM
Alexandra Feodorowna - Prinzessin Alix von Hessen und bei Rhein (und wehe es widerspricht jemand von euch Pöttelköppen...)

???  :o
I think the translation of the phrase in brackets in the above quote would be: "Woe betide you if any of you "Pöttelköppen" disagrees with this" - "Pöttelköppen" probably being a kind of term of abuse in local Darmstadt dialect.
Why this threat and name-calling? 
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Thomas_Hesse on May 26, 2008, 05:13:08 PM
Thank you for your proper translation, Helen.
Why? Well....Thomas has written it. There was never something good coming fr. Thomas's hand I guess.
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: JesseM on June 03, 2008, 01:08:16 AM
I would like to add another vote for Catherine the Great, who seems to be the favourite. She was the only Russian Monarch to have a specific style of beer made just for her! (believe it or not)
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: CarolynnB on June 10, 2008, 11:41:44 PM
Again, a vote cast for Catherine the Great.  Not only did she seize the throne from her rather ineffective and offensive husband, she added huge amounts of territory to Russia, considered some pretty amazing reforms for her time, was incredibly well-read for a woman, basically started the Hermitage art collection (yes, Peter I bought the first art, but Catherine was the first to be systematic about it), and was, for the most part, religiously tolerant.  There is the whole area of what she did NOT manage to accomplish (freeing the serfs, turning Russia into a constitutional monarchy, etc.) but her record is, for this period, pretty remarkable.
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Michael HR on June 11, 2008, 06:11:55 AM
Yep I agree Catherine the Great followed by Elizabeth.

Who on earth would think that A.F. was the best Empress? Or am I missing something?

Michael HR
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: crazy_wing on June 15, 2008, 10:02:34 AM
I think Marie Feodorovna the elder (wife of Paul) is a good consort! 
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Empress_Catherine on September 22, 2008, 05:57:22 PM
Catherine the Great!!!! Go Cathy Go!!! LOL
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: rusmila on November 29, 2008, 03:58:01 AM
I think maybe Ekatarenira Velikaja(Chatereina the Great) or Elisabeth Petrovna.Of empress consourt maybe Maria Alexandrovna.She do Red cross in Russia,and do school reform.
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Felicia on December 10, 2008, 12:26:54 PM
Well, all of them were great in their own way, Imho.
From Elizabeth Petrovna till the last Alexandra.
It's hard to say that Catherine the First or Anna Ioannovna were the Empresses from the capital E, but they had something good.
And the best were in the 19th century.
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Seeker on December 10, 2008, 01:14:25 PM
Catherine the great for me!
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: kaiservitch on December 10, 2008, 07:12:51 PM
IN referring to empress are we specially talkin about russia,if so it would be the german empress Catherine, but wht about the only woman to rule the holy roman empire Maria therese,she had to deal with frederick till the day she died an did not back down!!!
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on January 10, 2009, 04:30:09 AM
Catherine the great.
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on May 30, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
Catherine the great.

I agree with you
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: QueenEna1887 on July 09, 2009, 03:08:47 PM
Most Definately Catherine the Great
                       Anna
                     and Maria Feodorovna, mother of Nicholas II.
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Tina Laroche on July 11, 2009, 08:59:10 AM
I'll go with Catherine the Great, although I think Minnie was quite good too.
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: RomanovsFan4Ever on July 11, 2009, 09:05:48 AM
I have to say that I like Tsarina Alexandra Feodorovna (Charlotte von Preußen) wife of Nicholas I too, she was so sweet and intelligent, maybe not the greatest but indeed a good Empress.
Title: Re: Who is the greatest Empress
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on July 13, 2009, 07:21:49 PM
Marie was a nice person, but I don't think that she was one of the best Tsarinas
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