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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Myth and Legends of Survivors => Topic started by: etonexile on January 10, 2006, 08:18:58 PM
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I do not want anyone to post in this...My Thread...unless they agree with me....Do we understand...? ;)
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It's the most logical explaination yet! Those aliens are responsible for so many celebrity disappearances. I think they abducted the IF and FS and transplanted AN into FS and created the hybrid AA! ;D ;D ;)
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Hello? This has been the going theory in "Imperial Claimants" for forever. Glad someone else caught on.
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NO ARGUEMENT FROM ME!
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A small number..........of contributors to this board....are plainly not from...the same planet as the rest of us...so can we have the IF back please?
Phil T
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It's just like Tommy Lee Jones said in the movie Men In Black......They didn't die they just went home. ;D
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I'm not really sure if it was space aliens, if it was, I wonder if it was Capt. Kirk in the Enterprise or Han Solo in the Milennium Falcon. But then, they'd have to time travel, so maybe the Bill and Ted theory is right. They couldn't all fit in the phone booth, but maybe they could since Bill and Ted had all those historical figures in there at once. That's it, Bill and Ted went back in time and got them for their history project, took them out of Ekaterinburg that night. But then they lost them somewhere in the circuits of time. They're not dead, just lost in time somewhere. So this means AA STILL wasn't AN!!!!
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I'm not really sure if it was space aliens, if it was, I wonder if it was Capt. Kirk in the Enterprise or Han Solo in the Milennium Falcon. But then, they'd have to time travel, so maybe the Bill and Ted theory is right. They couldn't all fit in the phone booth, but maybe they could since Bill and Ted had all those historical figures in there at once. That's it, Bill and Ted went back in time and got them for their history project, took them out of Ekaterinburg that night. But then they lost them somewhere in the circuits of time. They're not dead, just lost in time somewhere. So this means AA STILL wasn't AN!!!!
Annie,AA was an alien too.Sheesh girl I thought you knew that. :D ;D
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Annie,AA was an alien too.Sheesh girl I thought you knew that. :D ;D
Very interesting, that explains a lot! :D
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... transplanted AN into FS and created the hybrid AA!
The correct term is "chimera". ;)
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Grace, this picture may be misconstrued as a cheap shot at a certain poster, so perhaps you better remove it :o 8) .
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Sheesh, etonexile........what took you so long!! Finally a thread that makes sense especially after all the "Let's pretend" threads. My favorite being "Pretend there's no DNA".
btw, do space aliens HAVE DNA?? ???
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do space aliens HAVE DNA?? ???
What does DNA have to do with anything?? ???
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Imagine there's no DNA, it's easy if you try, no tunnels below us, above us only UFO's....
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It all makes sense now ! But I did not realize Etonexile's Tedders is green !
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I did not realize Etonexile's Tedders is green !
Perhaps this is not Tedders, but some other unnamed bear... ;)
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It's Tedders clone.Man you guys know nothing about aliens. ;D :D ;)
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Ah - chimera! Of course. So that means Amelia Earhart was Tatiana's chimera, Margda Boodts was Olga's (the switched part of her retained the Roman Catholicity which explains it all nicely). That Estonian fellow is Alexei's chimera, and Granny Alina Maria's. But who are the chimeras of Nicholas and Alexandra?!
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Elvis & Marilyn, of corpse !
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For some reason I can't imagine Nicky and Alix as Elvis and Marilyn. :D
Alix/Marilyn with her skirt blowing up and Nicky/Elvis shaking his hips.That's enough to bring on hysterical blindness! ;D
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NOOOOOOOO
It's the other way around.... Nicky is Marilyn and Alix is Elvis!
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"But who are the chimeras of Nicholas and Alexandra?!"
Don't give anyone ideas! We'll have posters coming out of the woodwork with their claims. ::) Then they will start posting Photo threads with comparisons ............
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How cool! And this thread is not deleted to the "Having Fun" Forum like it happened with my post proposing a scientific job !
Very funny, indeed! ;D
RealAnastasia.
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But who are the chimeras of Nicholas and Alexandra?!
Tsar Doug?
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Maybe the Baron VonCrankypantz....
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It all makes sense now ! But I did not realize Etonexile's Tedders is green !
Tedders is often a shinning shade of green after the 5th or 6th martini....That's when the aliens visit him.... ::)
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Would Tedders change colors after a long island iced tea too?
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Would Tedders change colors after a long island iced tea too?
Tedders has been known to swig mouthwash....We aren't talking subtle with this ted...... ::)
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Tedders has been known to swig mouthwash....We aren't talking subtle with this ted...... ::)
Tedders sounds like my great grandfather.He'd drink cologne just for the alcohol. ;D
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Actually, I have to say that this thread should be in the "Having Fun" threads. BUT- Lily Savage could be BOTH N&A on wheels !
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LOOOOOOOOOoooooook Out. Here I .......
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Oh no, I am not flying up up into space..... I'm f-a-l-l-i-n-g....
The hedge....
Crash! BANG! Ouch....
Oh dear, oh dear.....
I am okay.
Hmmmm, it seems we did emtpy a few honey pots here yesterdays after all our little fun and games. BUT, never fear. Bear always has a few saved for all occasion.
Slurp. Slurp.
All are welcome to join me. And, do bring something and we'll have a party here on earth... in the hedge....
AGRBear
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This does not belong in the survivors forum, it belongs in the fun forum. This is SPAM!
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These forums are truly losing their credibility. This dosen't seem like a good place to get information from. You come to a forum to discuss a very serious subject about survivors of a horrible massacre, and you find nothing but close-minded people who discuss space aliens..
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Forum Admin, if you truly have viewed this thread and simply do not wish for it to be deleted or moved, then please go ahead and state that those who believe in survivors or Anna Anderson are simply not welcome on these forums and will be ridiculed. I cannot believe that any serious forum would allow a thread like this to be posted under a place for serious discussion.
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Caleb, hold your horses. The Mod or Admin might not have seen this thread yet. It's a big site and they can't be everywhere at once. If you have a concern, send the Mod or Admin a private message.
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Okay maybe some of us are being a little silly here. I have to also say that not everything here or in life can be taken as serious either. There have been some preposterous theories on the various threads. Maybe this one is just more blatant and humorous in the face of the others.
It's okay to relax. Intellectuals know how to laugh and poke fun too, especially at oneself! ;D
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These forums are truly losing their credibility.
G-money, this forum section has lost its credibility to most people a long time ago, I'd say most probably since Penny Wilson - with a completely straight face - came up with her "Anna Anderson was a chimera" theory... So not to worry - this loss of credibility has absolutely nothing to do with this particular alien thread...
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This does not belong in the survivors forum, it belongs in the fun forum. This is SPAM!
This does belong in the "FUN" section.
I assume FA will switch it over to it's proper place.
MEANWHILE: Surly we can all agree to disagree without sniping and snaping.
Helen, I don't think the creator of this thread mentions anything about anything
I do not want anyone to post in this...My Thread...unless they agree with me....Do we understand...? ;)
such as DNA or anyone such as AA or GD Anastasia or Rasputin...., only that you agree with the creator.
Okay maybe some of us are being a little silly here. I have to also say that not everything here or in life can be taken as serious either. There have been some preposterous theories on the various threads. Maybe this one is just more blatant and humorous in the face of the others.
It's okay to relax. Intellectuals know how to laugh and poke fun too, especially at oneself! ;D
I don't know about intellectuals but wooly brain Bears do like a little fun sometimes. ;)
As to my theories and speculations being preposterous..... We'll talk about them some more on other threads meant for the serious stuff.
Off to find some more honey for my pots....
AGRBear
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This is SPAM!
Could be said for a number of threads. But just because it could be said, doesn't mean it has to be said.
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First of all, I only see people having fun with the theory of space alien intervention. So, I see no reason to feel offended UNLESS you believe in that theory. Frankly, anyone genuinely espousing the theory of space aliens rescuing the IF from murder is NOT welcome, and the one person who actually did so was banned
I saw the thread when it first went up. It seemed harmless enough, and I certainly never thought ANYONE would remotely take it seriously. I don't really at all see how the forum would lose "credibility" when people are discussing teddy bear space aliens. I thought it rather funny actually, and for Pete's sake BEAR herself, our most staunch curmudgeon on the subject, is having some fun. Frankly, most "serious" scholars have privately told me that THEY feel that our letting you seriously discuss the subject of ANYONE surviving is what destroys our credibility.
Lord, lighten up all y'all....
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Could be said for a number of threads. But just because it could be said, doesn't mean it has to be said.
Seconded.
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Helen, I don't think the creator of this thread mentions anything about anything
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Oh, I do believe that EtonE & Green Tedders are most correct. Even though Tedders may have had a bit too much of his fermented honeypot, that indeed- WHOOSHED up into the ether they were. And, most likely still circling on one of those Martian space stations [at least the ones Tom Cruise did not shoot down] that are continually [and without age] watching our every earthly movement. Of course they,upon whim, come down and visit certain people, just to re-assure the faithful believers.
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Frankly, most "serious" scholars have privately told me that THEY feel that our letting you seriously discuss the subject of ANYONE surviving is what destroys our credibility.
Interesting news that FA....I've at times wondered if some of the "AA WAS AN" supporters aren't just having us on....Some months ago a chap claimed to be the son of Alexei...He had a a very sad and elaborate story of meeting his long lost father...I never believed him....And then he had the temerity to send me pms, telling me how he was laughing at all the sympathy he had engendered....suspicious?....me?.... ::)
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Frankly, most "serious" scholars have privately told me that THEY feel that our letting you seriously discuss the subject of ANYONE surviving is what destroys our credibility.
Interesting news that FA....I've at times wondered if some of the "AA WAS AN" supporters aren't just having us on....Some months ago a chap claimed to be the son of Alexei...He had a a very sad and elaborate story of meeting his long lost father...I never believed him....And then he had the temerity to send me pms, telling me how he was laughing at all the sympathy he had engendered....suspicious?....me?.... ::)
Wow, eton, this must be the longest paragraph you ever wrote ;D! I am with you on this one, I have been convinced for a while now that the several 'AA was AN' advocates who frequent these threads are just playing and generally having fun (occasionally putting on the indignant act for good measure), while secretly giggling behind our backs with each other because everyone is buying their "passionate beliefs" ;). There is no way this could be for real.
There is no need to move this thread to the "having fun" section, it is already in the "having fun" section! :D
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Wow, eton, this must be the longest paragraph you ever wrote ;D! I am with you on this one, I have been convinced for a while now that the several 'AA was AN' advocates who frequent these threads are just playing and generally having fun (occasionally putting on the indignant act for good measure), while secretly giggling behind our backs with each other because everyone is buying their "passionate beliefs" ;). There is no way this could be for real.
There is no need to move this thread to the "having fun" section, it is already in the "having fun" section! :D
My head is throbbing from the effort,Helen....in future....Tedders and I shall concentrate on keeping vicars out our garden....and searching the skies....Oh,yes.....
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Frankly, most "serious" scholars have privately told me that THEY feel that our letting you seriously discuss the subject of ANYONE surviving is what destroys our credibility.
Lord, lighten up all y'all....
Either this is a FUN thread where angelic Helen can get light enough to be able to really fly and I can climb out of the pricklely hedge or a serious thread. You can't have it both ways. Well......., maybe you can, since you own the place. ::)
Quick, Tedders, get FA a martini, it's been a long day, and, I've just arrived. ;)
AGRBear
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Why doesn't anyone want to believe that I am GD Anastasia, come back as Anna F. S. Anderson-Manahan, and reinvented in area 51?
My claim is just as valid and equally worthy of discussion.
::) ;)
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You are all fairy tale beleivers ...of course it wasn't space aliens it was Nessie, the Loch ness monster....
:P
Rachael
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Why doesn't anyone want to believe that I am GD Anastasia, come back as Anna F. S. Anderson-Manahan, and reinvented in area 51?
My claim is just as valid and equally worthy of discussion.
::) ;)
Well if you are Anna F. S. Anderson-Manahan and were reinvented in area 51 I just might have to take your claim seriously.Well,as long as you take mine seriously.
I was slipped a magic potion and it turned me into Alexolgtatmaranastasialexeinicky Bubba Bo Bob Brain Windsor-Mountbatten-Romanov-Fudge! ;D
Some say it's multiple personalities,I say I just have way too many people crowded into my head. ;) :D ;D
Now can someone top my claim? ;D
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Minorities are always wrong ; it's sad but inevitable.
A lot of things more incredible than would-be story of AA happened and happens in this world. So for me, this topic is not bad taste just excessive.
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Quick, Tedders, get FA a martini, it's been a long day, and, I've just arrived. ;)
AGRBear
By this time Bear, it was almost 9pm in Austin, and FA had ALREADY had his martini, a double...Tedders however knows that I like mine with Ketel One Vodka, very very dry, with 2 olives. A most obliging bear indeed....
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Well if you are Anna F. S. Anderson-Manahan and were reinvented in area 51 I just might have to take your claim seriously.Well,as long as you take mine
Now can someone top my claim? ;D
Yes, I happen to know that she WAS taken there, and indeed reinvented like Darth Vader with a special mechanical suit. In Area 51, where all the alien technology is stored, this was easily done. However, because of the suit needed to sustain her life long past her expiration point, she no longer looks like AA, FS or even AN. But she's out there still!
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Another revelation- Nessie is a space alien who came out of the loch, flew accross the sea and rescued the Romanovs. Thence taking them back to and under water space ship.
Btw, I am the re-incarnation of the Emperor Paul and am going to re-write the rules altogether !
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Btw, I am the re-incarnation of the Emperor Paul and am going to re-write the rules altogether !
I am the reincarnation of your mother, Catherine. Stop giving away all our secrets!
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Mummy dearest, I shall take your command with due consideration, after advisement from my loyal assistant, the re-incarnated, also Nessie rescued Rasputin. We make an odd pair, we do, but at least we entertain each other. [he makes lousy martinis, btw]
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I am so absolutely delighted that so many of the royals have come back among us and joined our discussion board. Please forgive me all if I hadn't quite recognized any of you in your new visage.
Perhaps now with so many voices of the past to be heard we can get down to some REAL talk with REAL answers?
( just a healthy poke in the ribs ;D)
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The topic is "Space Aliens" how real do you think this can get ?
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Perhaps now with so many voices of the past to be heard we can get down to some REAL talk with REAL answers?
This isn't real already? ??? ;)
(Edited because I cut off part of the code and the quote didn't work)
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Giant space Chihuaha resucues Romanovs !
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LOL, The heck with the space aliens, and a little stuffed Chihuaha!
You have a crack library, and i wanted to know how is the book there, on "Crowns & Trenchcoats" ? Course the "Sokolov Investigation" looks intriguing also. Hey, you have two books. Must be quite read. How was it ?
Tatiana
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Giant space Chihuaha resucues Romanovs !
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Giant space Chihuaha resucues Romanovs !
^^ The going theory.
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vv The going theory.
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Giant space Chihuaha resucues Romanovs !
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By this time Bear, it was almost 9pm in Austin, and FA had ALREADY had his martini, a double...Tedders however knows that I like mine with Ketel One Vodka, very very dry, with 2 olives. A most obliging bear indeed....
Tedders knew that the FA was not just another pretty face.....SERIOUS martini....Oh Yes.....
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Sent by Dafydd, the only Giant Welshman in Space
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A giant TALKING welshman in space no less! Brilliant!
Now, where do the witches lead by action Tedders through the Hollow Earth fit into this? (this theory was posted some time ago by Rskkiyah on another thread)
I especially like the giant space dog!
I'm not anyone's reborn space mother... but I am Spartacus!
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I find it comforting to observe that we all have essentially the same books and bric-a-brac themes in our studies. Sans Giant Welshman Statues here, of course.
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I find it comforting to observe that we all have essentially the same books and bric-a-brac themes in our studies. Sans Giant Welshman Statues here, of course.
Tedders & moi shall bring our pup-tent,loud jams, and toof brushes for a jolly night on the "GIANT CHAP"...eggs and a big Cumberland sausage for the morning....We shall have a jolly invest of your....bric-a-brac....as you please....... ;)
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You might as well see [some] of the rest of the library/space station
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They rescued Marie Antoinette as well, but that is another story altogether.
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So Robert, what time are your library hours ? :D
What a splendid collection. How I could get lost for hours in those beautiful books. They are outstanding.
Sigh, it's uplifting to see that there are people who really value books, as well as history. Thank you for sharing such wonderful pictures. Sorry, did not mean to be so hard nosed on your little dog, but there is no comparison of little green space aliens, or a little stuffed Chihuaha. None at all. Your objects of art, photographs, etc. are great also.
Have a great day !
Tatiana
You might as well see [some] of the rest of the library/space station
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Thank you.
The command center:(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Markhall/library2002.jpg)
They have been at rescuing royals for some time...
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Dear Robert,
The Fidel Castro picture is the best touch. Thanks for sharing these, seriously. We share a taste for Vigee-Lebrun and icons as well!
Regards,
Simon
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Good lord Robert! You must have a job to dust that lot!! :o I thought my room was bad enough, lol ;D
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Well, to be honest, I do not dust it. Someone else does. The Fidel Castro is actually an action figure doll ! The pictures are only of the east wall. The real mess is opposite. Where stand Mao, Lenin, Stalin and a few others. Also where I recently cleared out a few hundred volumes. Still waiting for an Evita...
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Ok, Robert, since you started it, I too am going to post some photos of my library-[glb]spaceship[/glb]
I actually have many of the same books as you, but not sure if they are in these photos... I still have plenty of books in boxes, waiting for additional bookshelves!
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Dear Lord. It's like we all shop at the same store! The exact Boleyn print is staring down at me as I type this, here in Spaceship Simon.
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Tell your friends ! I would be great to have as many as possible join the space/library fleet !
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Dear Lord. It's like we all shop at the same store! The exact Boleyn print is staring down at me as I type this, here in Spaceship Simon.
... would be great to have as many as possible join the space/library fleet !
And resistance is rather futile! ;)
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P.S. Simon, I sent you a PM the other day, not sure if you noticed it yet :)
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Tell your friends ! I would be great to have as many as possible join the space/library fleet !
Well, I have to admit, in comparison to what's been posted already, my collection is more like a satellite outpost than a command center, but here goes:
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Haha, I'm sending the link to this thread to all my friends who tell me I have too many Romanov books. My satellite outpost is NOTHING next to all of yours. :o
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Wow, completely impressed with the fine readers here. If I had the choice of viewing a room full of money or books, it would be the latter. Do any of you know if many of the books on the IF or russian history is on line as yet, and links ?
Grin, :D I just love looking at the many libraries you all have. Keep showing them. Thanks a bunch !
Tatiana
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Lovely pics Helen! :) i love the Anne Boleyn picture!! :)
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Helen A - "Buckingham Babylon"?
I love it!!! ;D ;D ;D
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"Buckingham Babylon"?
Yeah, absolutely! ;D
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Lovely pics Helen! :) i love the Anne Boleyn picture!! :)
Thanks, EB! My Anne Boleyn is a canvas replica (looks quite authentic, but about quadruple the size of the original at the National Portrait Gallery :o ;)).
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o0o0o! I love the library pictures!
I hope to take a shot of mine this weekend and upload it.
I am quite envious of many of you! ;D ;)
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Here is definitive photo proof of space alien abduction, note the actual Martian abductor:
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Of course, he missed Anastasia because he forgot to use the inverse modulator.
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Aha ! Great Uncle Bulgaria [another space traveler as well as an Arsenal fan] provides his proof of rescue of the missing ! With, of course, the aid of faithfull space guards and a Faberge fortune !
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While the Grand Duchess Anastasia was abducted by an alien being, ominously known as "Alphie the Bookworm" -posing as Fransizka Schankowska posing as Anna Anderson posing as Anastasia.
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While the Grand Duchess Anastasia was abducted by an alien being, ominously known as "Alphie the Bookworm" -posing as Fransizka Schankowska posing as Anna Anderson posing as Anastasia.
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Aha ! Great Uncle Bulgaria [another space traveler as well as an Arsenal fan] provides his proof of rescue of the missing ! With, of course, the aid of faithfull space guards and a Faberge fortune !
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Markhall/UncleBulgaria002.jpg)
Gods... I do miss Wombles ...what a blast from my past!
LOL
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Seconded!
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;D Oh Alphie! Hahaha ;D ;)
Here is my much meeker collection of books. I hope my collection to get as Grand as Roberts some day!
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There a a teeny few that did not make the photoshoot. They are currently out on loan to a friend in class. ;D
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Great pictures Laura!
I showed all the alien abduction pictures to my father,we both were laughing,great!Especially Marvin Martian-he's my dad's idol. ;) ::)
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Bear, who by the way is friends with Wesely and is also a Time Travelor, has just reported to Star Ship USS Enterprise 007 and is presently unpacking boxes of books in my new quarters. Forgive the mess.
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AGRBear
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Sarushka's bookshelf looks like mine! So many familiar books. My bookshelves are groaning and I need more. Most of the books on my shelves are 'double parked' with books behind them as I simply do not have the space. And then there are the books in boxes, under the bed, in the wardrobe.....
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Sarushka's bookshelf looks like mine! So many familiar books.
Yet another reason I like you, Georgiy! ;)
I'm tempted to repost my photo -- I just got two more fantastic books, and I've got two more on the way from Gilbert's Royal Books. And how many more days until Greg King's new one hits the shelves??
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After I read Sarushka's post on libraries, I started to make an inventory of my own books about Imperial Russia. I am far from complete and I have thus far avoided the ones in Turkmeni, Azeri, Kyrgyz, Morvidian, as well as fifty or so in Russian, etc. as the titles are difficult but not impossible to translate. About 400 of my books are now in storage but about 700 are still out on shelves. The start of my inventory is a follows:
All of these books are Russian Imperial period.
Russian Orthodoxy
Orthodox Alaska, A Theology of Mission. Michael Oleska, 1992
Religious and Secular Forces in Late Tsarist Russia. Charles Timberlake, 1992
Irkutskoe Barokko (Irkutsk Baroque). Elena Zubrii, 1993
Les Icônes de Pskov XIIIe-XVIE Siècles. Mikhaïl Alpatov & Irina Rodnikova, 1990
Russian Copper Icons and Crosses from the Kunst Collection: Castings of Faith. Richard Ahlborn & Vera Espinola, 1991
Pozdnyaya Russkaya Ikona Konets XVIII-XIX bek (The Russian Icon of the Late XIII-XIX cc.). A.A. Maltseva, 1994
Novgorod (Novgorod). Valentin Yanin, 1991.
Exploration of Siberia and lands to the East
Discovery in Russian and Siberian Waters. L.H. Neatby, 1973
A History of the Peoples of Siberia, Russia’s North Asian Colony 1581-1990. James Forsyth, 1992
Bering’s Search for the Strait, The First Kamchatka Expedition 1725-1730. Evgenii Kushnarev, 1990
East of the Sun, The Epic Conquest and Tragic History of Siberia. Benson Bobrick, 1992
The Birds of Siberia, Volume II, The Yenesei. Henry Seebohm, 1901
Russial Imperial Social History
Mothers of Misery, Child Abandonment in Russia. David Ransel, 1988
Russian Peasant Schools, Officialdom, Village Culture and Popular Pedagogy, 1861-1914. Ben Eklof, 1986
Law and Disorder on the Narova River, the Kreenholm Strike of 1872. Reginald Zelnik, 1995
Towards a Civic Society, the Baltic Media’s Long Road to Freedom. Høyer, Lauk & Vihalemm, 1993
The Despised and the Damned, the Russian Peasant Through the Ages. Jules Koslow, 1972
Romanov Autobiographies/Biographies/Histories
Romanov Relations, the Private Correspondence of the Tsars Alexander I, Nicholas I and the Grand Dukes Constantine and Michael with Their Sister Queen Anna Palovna 1817-1855. S.W. Jackman, 1969
Nicholas I Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russias. W. Bruce Lincoln, 1978
The Three Empresses, Catherine I, Anne & Elizabeth of Russia. Philip Longworth, 1972
Marta of Muscovy, the Fabulous Life of Russia’s First Empress. Phil Strong, 1945
Alexander of Russia, Napoleon’s Conqueror. Henri Troyat, 1983
Sophia Regent of Russia 1657-1704. Lindsey Hughes, 1990
Alexander I: Russia’s Mysterious Tsar. M.K. Dziewanowski, 1990
Imperial Legend, the Mysterious Disappearance of Alexander I. Alexis Troubetzkoy, 2002
A Fatal Passion, the Story of the Uncrowned Last Empress of Russia. Michael Sullivan, 1997
Elizabeth Grand Duchess of Russia. Hugo Mager, 1998
Catherine the Great. Joan Haslip, 1977
The Romanovs. Virginia Cowles, 1971
Peter the Great, His Life and World. Robert Massie, 1980
Michael and Natasha. R. & D. Crawford, 1997
Education of a Princess. Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna, 1930
A Princess in Exile. Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna, 1932
Catherine, A Portrait of an Empress. Gina Kaus, 1935
The Fall of the Romanovs. Steinberg & Khrustalev, 1995
The Sunset of the Romanov Dynasty. Iroshnikov, Protsai and Shelayev, 1992
Russian Imperial Numismatics
A Guidebook to Russian Coins. Robert Harris, 1983
Monety Poccii i SSSR (Coins of Russia and the USSR). I. Rylov & V. Sobolin, 1993
Czarist Russian Paper Money 1769-1917. Hannu Paatela, 1980
Autibiographies, Biographies, Family Histories of Prominent Imperial Russians
The Memoirs of Princess Dashkova. Princess Ekaterina Romanova Dashkova, 1995
A Russian Princess Remembers. Princess Ekaterina Meshcherskaya, 1989
The Princess of Siberia, the Story of (Princess) Maria Volkonsky. Christine Sutherland, 1984
The Tolstoys, Twenty-Four Generations of Russian History 1353-1983. Nikolai Tolstoy, 1983
In the Service of the Tsar Against Napoleon, the Memoirs of Denis Davidov, 1806-1814. Edited by Gregory Troubetzkoy, 1999
Tchaikovsky 1840-1893. Jeroen Koolbergen, 1995
Prince of Princes, the Life of Potemkin. Sebag Montefiore, 2000
The Russian Album. Michael Ignatieff, 1987
The Career of a Tsarist Officer, Memoirs 1872-1916.
General Anton Denikin, 1975
The Cavalry Maiden, Journals of a Female Russian Officer in the Napoleonic Wars. Nadezhda Durova, 1988
Early Russian History
Fearful Majesty, the Life and Reign of Ivan the Terrible. Benson Bobrick, 1987
The Horsemen of the Steppes, the Story of the Cossacks. Albert Seaton, 1985
Russia and the Golden Horde, the Mongol Impact on Medieval Russian Histroy. Charles Halperin, 1985
Ivan the Terrible. Henri Troyat, 1984
Dimitry Called the Pretender, Tsar and Great Prince of All Russia 1605-1606. Philip Barbour, 1966
If any of you are curious about my other Russian Imperial books that I have yet to list just let me know
David
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How good is the Longworth Three Empresses? I am interested in Catherine I.
Thanks,
Simon
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I often consult the Three Empresses as a reference since there is so little information available on these three rulers. It is one of the only books that describe the most interesting life and reign of Empress Anna in detail.
I would also recommend the book Marta of Muscovy, the Fabulous Life of Russia’s First Empress which is soley about Catherine I.
David
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Thanks, I'll order them tomorrow!
Simon
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I have no bookshelf :( I have always wanted a collection like you all have, but never could buy them all and felt bad spending money on myself. I have a few books, nothing to take a picture of, but most of what I've read has come from the library. I remember what I read, but not always exactly what book it was from, I've read so many over the years. This is why I don't 'quote sources' as frequently as Bear would like, I don't have my own personal library to just go get the book and start quoting from. I would love to see Bear's shelf, and if she has more than "File on the Tsar" and "Riddle of Anastasia." ;)
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Mr. Pritchard, how is Elizabeth Grand Duchess of Russia by Hugo Mager?
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how is Elizabeth Grand Duchess of Russia by Hugo Mager?
IMHO, very mediocre....
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I would love to see Bear's shelf, and if she has more than "File on the Tsar" and "Riddle of Anastasia." ;)
This is her collection (she posted it earlier):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/AGRBear/Library1.jpg)
... it seems you are not the only one who doesn't have bookshelves ;).
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The Three Empresses, Catherine I, Anne & Elizabeth of Russia. Philip Longworth, 1972
Alexander of Russia, Napoleon’s Conqueror. Henri Troyat, 1983
Alexander I: Russia’s Mysterious Tsar. M.K. Dziewanowski, 1990
Imperial Legend, the Mysterious Disappearance of Alexander I. Alexis Troubetzkoy, 2002
A Fatal Passion, the Story of the Uncrowned Last Empress of Russia. Michael Sullivan, 1997
Elizabeth Grand Duchess of Russia. Hugo Mager, 1998
Catherine the Great. Joan Haslip, 1977
The Romanovs. Virginia Cowles, 1971
Peter the Great, His Life and World. Robert Massie, 1980
Michael and Natasha. R. & D. Crawford, 1997
Education of a Princess. Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna, 1930
Catherine, A Portrait of an Empress. Gina Kaus, 1935
The Fall of the Romanovs. Steinberg & Khrustalev, 1995
David, these are the books from your collection that I have too :)
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:o :o
I could cry when I see all these books you all have :'( :'(
Here is my little collection:
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d21/ElisabethVonHessen/MeinBcherregal2.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d21/ElisabethVonHessen/MeinBcherregal1.jpg)
And my wall ;D
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d21/ElisabethVonHessen/Hohenzollern.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d21/ElisabethVonHessen/Romanov.jpg)
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Mr. Pritchard, how is Elizabeth Grand Duchess of Russia by Hugo Mager?
Dear Margarita,
If you would like the book, I have a spare copy that I could send to you. I thought the book was average. I like to read original correspondence and documents, etc. in historic biographies as they give great insight into the true personality of the subject. Pages of insightful footnotes are also great. I am sure you would learn something from this book, just as I did.
David
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I have no bookshelf :( I have always wanted a collection like you all have, but never could buy them all and felt bad spending money on myself. I have a few books, nothing to take a picture of, but most of what I've read has come from the library. I remember what I read, but not always exactly what book it was from, I've read so many over the years. This is why I don't 'quote sources' as frequently as Bear would like, I don't have my own personal library to just go get the book and start quoting from. I would love to see Bear's shelf, and if she has more than "File on the Tsar" and "Riddle of Anastasia." ;)
Dear Annie,
Unless you have children to care for, there is no reson to feel bad about spending money on something that makes you happy.
By the way, this is my fourth library. Over the years, because of illness or being between jobs I have sold off three earlier collections of books, one of which consisted of over 2000 books, the others were in the 400 and 250 size range. Some of these books are so expensive now that I will never own them again, others so hard to find that I would be lucky to see one of them in a very good used bookstore. Just the same, I did learn from them while I had them and I do not regret buying them but I do regret selling them.
David
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David, these are the books from your collection that I have too :)
Dear Helen,
I am glad to see that someone else is interested in the earlier Romanovs. We are a small group on this forum. I would love to find a book on Emperor Paul, do you know if one exists?
David
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Yes, David. Ragsdale, has a bio of Paul but I have yet to see it. It has been on order from Amazon for almost a year now. Also, it is not cheap. [$110.00 !]
And Anisimov has a relatively new book FIVE EMPRESSES [Court life in 18th Century Russia]. He includes Anna Leopoldovna as an empress- in hiding. I have not yet read it either, but it is here waiting. It is a translation, btw.
Robert
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It is fascinating to me to see photos of member's collections of books and royal memorabilia.
They give a lot of insight, much more than can be obtained by a photo of the particular person. :)
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Guess what I was doing today, putting some of my books up on my shelves, and, now, I'm taking a tea and honey break.
[photo]
This is half of row one....
I am fortunate enough to have a library room in Bear's quarters here on the USS Enterprise 007.
When I have shelved a section of my Russian books, I'll take some close up so you can see the titles like the other posters.
Taking a look at other sheves gives us a new list of books to buy. I ordered two yesterday and will order the Cath. I ones today. Thanks ALL.
AGRBear :)
PS I have no idea why the photo doesn't work on this particular post????
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Bear, I'm intrigued about the room. Does the wall end right above the shelf nad the ceiling slopes, or is that a trick of the light?
(Architect's niece's question *pushes glasses up nose*)
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David, that's an excellent list! Some day soon, I'll post mine for those of you who'd rather not squint at the spines of my books...
I'm quite envious of the other book-walls posted here. I've got about 540 volumes myself (mostly children's literature). But they're scattered between two rooms and many shelves, and I really like the look of them all lined up in one area like that.
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1. Aleksei: Poslednii Tsarevich (Alexei: the Last Tsarevich), by Berns
2. Anastasia's Album, by Brewster
3. Armoury: a guide, by the Moscow State Museum
4. Vospominaniya o Tsarskoi Cem'e (Remberances of the Tsar's Family), by Botkina
5. Camera and the Tsars, by Zeepvat
6. Complete Wartime Correspondence of Tsar Nicholas II and the Empress Alexandra, by Fuhrmann
7. Divnyi Svet (a biography of Alix, with letters & diary entries)
8. Fall of the Romanovs, by Steinberg & Khrustalev
9. Fate of the Romanovs, by King & Wilson
10. House of Special Purpose, by Trewin
11. Jewel Album of Nicholas II, by Solodkoff
12. Kitchen Boy, by Alexander [fiction]
13. Last Diary of Tsaritsa Alexandra, by Yale University Press
14. Last Empress, by King
15. Last Grand Duchess, by Vorres
16. Last Tsar, by Yermilova
17. Last Tsar, by Radzinsky
18. Lifelong Passion, by Maylunas & Mironenko
19. Lost Tales: Stories for the Tsar's Children, by Botkin
20. Na Detskoi Polovine (Toys of the Tsar's Children)
21. Nicholas and Alexandra, by Massie
22. Nicholas and Alexandra: At Home with the Last Tsar & His Family, by the American-Russian Cultural Cooperation Foundation
23. Nicholas and Alexandra: The Family Albums, by Prince Michael of Greece
24. Nicholas and Alexandra: The Last Imperial Family of Tsarist Russia, by the State Hermitage Museum
25. Nicholas Romanov: Life and Death, by Shelayev
26. Nicholas II, by Lieven
27. Nicholas II: The Imperial Family, by Barkovets
28. Nicholas II: The Interrupted Transition, by d'Encausse
29. Nicholas II: The Last Tsar, by Lyons
30. Nikolai II, by Radzinsky (Russian edition of The Last Tsar)
31. Pered Rasstrelom: Poslednie Pis'ma Tsarskoi Sem'i (Before the Shooting: The Last Letters of the Tsar's Family), by Nepein
32. Peterhof, Tsarskoe Selo, Pavlovsk, Oraniebaum, Gatchina, by Yar
33. Poslednie Dnevnik Imperatritsy (Russian edition of Alexandra's last diaries, 1917-1918 )
34. Private World of the Last Tsar, by Grabbe
35. Rasputin File, by Radzinsky
36. Rasputin: The Saint Who Sinned, by Moynahan
37. Rasputin's Daughter, by Alexander [fiction]
38. Romanov Family Album, by Massie
39. Romanovs: The Final Chapter, by Massie
40. Romanovs: Love, Power & Tragedy, by Bokhanov
41. Royal Russia, by Townend
42. Six Years at the Russian Court, by Eagar
43. Tsar: The Lost World of Nicholas and Alexandra, by Kurth
44. Tsesarevich, by Barkovets
I'm also waiting for Aleksei ( a centennial volume published last year), and Tsarskoe Selo: Aleksandrovskii Dvorets to come from Gilbert's Royal Books, as well as Greg King's new book! And I'm considering Romanovs Revisited, by Cripps...
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Sarushka,
What a nice and very focused collection of Russian history books you have! I added 18 more books to my earlier list posted on this thread.
I will continue my list below:
Russian Imperial Symbols, Flags and Heraldry
Derzhavnyi Orel Rossii (Powerful Eagle of Russia). Vladimir Lebedev, 1995
Gerb Smolenska (Arms of Smolensk). G. Razhnev, 1993
Zemelnyi Gerby Rossii XII-XIX vv. (City Arms of Russia 12th-19th Centuries). N. N. Speransov, 1974
Malorossiiskii Gerbovnik (The Heraldry of the Ukraine). V. Lukomskii and V. Modzalevskii, 1914 reprinted 1993
Gerbovyd (Journal of the Russian Heraldry Society) Volumes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 56, 59, 73.
Illustrirovannyi Slovar po Geraldike (Illustrated Dictionary of Heraldry). Nikolai Starodutsev, 1996
Herbarz Rodzin Tatarskich Wielkiego Ksiestwa Litewskiego (Arms of the Noble Houses of the Lithuanian Tatars) Stanislaw Dumin, 1999
David
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:o :o
I could cry when I see all these books you all have :'( :'(
I have an extra copy of Last Tsar, by Radzinsky. If you have an address you're confortable sharing via PM, and you don't mind waiting a few weeks for it to arrive -- it's too heavy for airmail -- I'm happy to send it. :)
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I am serving tea, honey and blueberry muffins this morning in my quarters on the USS Enterprise 007. Togather, we can go over the list of books David, Sarushka and other posters have provided for us.
This is GREAT!
AGRBear
PS Another attempt to show this particular photo:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/AGRBear/RowOneLibrary.jpg)
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Bear, I'm intrigued about the room. Does the wall end right above the shelf nad the ceiling slopes, or is that a trick of the light?
(Architect's niece's question *pushes glasses up nose*)
The ceiling slopes.
When reading David post and how he had to unwillingly sell some of his most prized books, my heart went out to him. I hope David or any of you never have to give up what you have, now. And, I hope in time, David can rebuild his library to it's early glory years. And, it looks like you're accomplishing another set of excellent books. And, the rest of us are trying to build what we can.
AGRBear
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The ceiling slopes.
AGRBear
Awesome. Must have some awesome/interesting acoustics in there.
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Denon stero system with four speakers are perfect for my room.
In reality time, the building is detached from our home, and I turned it into my studio/library/computer place that's all mine.
I, also, have an old record player and dug out some Johnny Cash records the other day after seeing Walk the Line.
AGRBear
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I have an extra copy of Last Tsar, by Radzinsky. If you have an address you're confortable sharing via PM, and you don't mind waiting a few weeks for it to arrive -- it's too heavy for airmail -- I'm happy to send it. :)
Saruska,
That is very nice of you to send Jelisaveta the book. We here in America are either unaware or forget how much more expensive books are within the European Union. Restrictive competition laws keep prices high, by keeping out giant corporate booksellers such as Barnes & Noble, Borders, et alia. On top of this add high postal fees for shipping the books, at least twice the rate of what books cost to post here in the US.
David
Some additional books (and my most useful books):
Russian Genealogy
Burke's Royal Families of the World, Volume One, Europe and Latin America. Hugh Montgomery-Massingberd, 1977
Dvoryanskie Rody Rossiiskoi Imperii, Tom Pervyi, Knyazya (Noble Houses of the Russian Empire, First Volume, Princes). Grebelsky & Dumin, 1993
Dvoryanskie Rody Rossiiskoi Imperii, Tom Vtoroi, Knyazya (Noble Houses of the Russian Empire, Second Volume, Princes). Grebelsky & Dumin, 1995
Dvoryanskie Rody Rossiiskoi Imperii, Tom Tretii, Knyazya (Noble Houses of the Russian Empire, Third Volume, Princes). Grebelsky & Dumin, 1996
Dvoryanskie Rody Rossiiskoi Imperii, 4-m Tom, Knyazya Tsarstva Gruzinskogo (Noble Houses of the Russian Empire, Fourth Volume, Princes of the Kingdom of Georgia). Grebelsky, Chikovani & Dumin, 1998
Letopis, Journal of the Historico-Genealogical Society in Moscow. Volumes 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53
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That does it, I'm ready to start a victory garden, sell the goods on the local street corner, and start to build up my library on Russian History, Romanov History, etc. Of course, building on it is one thing, reading it all will take eons, but every moment given to it that much more enriching !
I hope all the young people on this thread, and AP Board will join in on building up or adding to their library. Nothing is more full filling, or worth while. Ask all of these posters who have taken the time to share with you their photos of their libraries.
I'm sure if you have questions, or want to know anything, many of these learned persons would be happy to enhance your learning.
Enjoy books, today, tomorrow, forever !
Tatiana
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We here in America are either unaware or forget how much more expensive books are within the European Union.
I am very lucky with regards to acquiring books in two ways:
1. I work in a small independent bookstore, so I get new books at a reduced rate
2. My local Barnes & Noble has a large used book section, where I can almost always find something on Romanovy or royals in general -- sometimes a whole armload!
I've found that my generosity with AP forum members generally comes back to me hundredfold, so I've become quite the little used-book-scout. I often buy on speculation, knowing someone here is likely to be able to use whatever I can pick up. You all are great, and absolutely worth it.
Cheers!
Sarushka
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A couple more useful threads for book-lovers:
- Duplicate books (http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=Books;action=display;num=1108491059) -- a place to exchange books with other members
Wish Lists for 'Book Scouts' (http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=Books;action=display;num=1136516892) -- a place to get help locating rare and tough-to-find books
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Awesome first link, making my way through it now!
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I am very lucky with regards to acquiring books in two ways:
1. I work in a small independent bookstore, so I get new books at a reduced rate
2. My local Barnes & Noble has a large used book section, where I can almost always find something on Romanovy or royals in general -- sometimes a whole armload!
I've found that my generosity with AP forum members generally comes back to me hundredfold, so I've become quite the little used-book-scout. I often buy on speculation, knowing someone here is likely to be able to use whatever I can pick up. You all are great, and absolutely worth it.
Cheers!
Sarushka
Dear Sarushka,
I love to visit your city of Detroit because I can visit one of my favourite used bookstores in the US: John King http://www.rarebooklink.com/cgi-bin/kingbooks/ My other favourite is the main Strand Books in NYC. My favourite bookstore in Russia is Moscow House of Books with my second favourite in Saint Petersburg, the first floor book stores in the old Singer Building on Nevsky Prospekt.
David
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Tania, Sarushka, and David:
May I say - you are all 'gems" that enhance us all!
I for one am most grateful to know you are all here!
Thanks!
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I love to visit your city of Detroit because I can visit one of my favourite used bookstores in the US: John King http://www.rarebooklink.com/cgi-bin/kingbooks/ My other favourite is the main Strand Books in NYC.
I'm ashamed to say I've never been to John King's bookstore! I'll just have to set aside a day and go downtown to explore it. I hear it's amazing. I can't imagine what sort of Russian rarities they might have on their shelves...
I've only recently discovered Strand Books (online) but my first purchase from them was a copy of The Complete Wartime Correspondence at a fantastic price.
And thank you, Azarias! :-*
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1. Aleksei: Poslednii Tsarevich (Alexei: the Last Tsarevich), by Berns
2. Anastasia's Album, by Brewster
6. Complete Wartime Correspondence of Tsar Nicholas II and the Empress Alexandra, by Fuhrmann
8. Fall of the Romanovs, by Steinberg & Khrustalev
10. House of Special Purpose, by Trewin
13. Last Diary of Tsaritsa Alexandra, by Yale University Press
14. Last Empress, by King
15. Last Grand Duchess, by Vorres
16. Last Tsar, by Yermilova
17. Last Tsar, by Radzinsky
18. Lifelong Passion, by Maylunas & Mironenko
19. Lost Tales: Stories for the Tsar's Children, by Botkin
21. Nicholas and Alexandra, by Massie
22. Nicholas and Alexandra: At Home with the Last Tsar & His Family, by the American-Russian Cultural Cooperation Foundation
25. Nicholas Romanov: Life and Death, by Shelayev
26. Nicholas II, by Lieven
30. Nikolai II, by Radzinsky (Russian edition of The Last Tsar)
34. Private World of the Last Tsar, by Grabbe
35. Rasputin File, by Radzinsky
36. Rasputin: The Saint Who Sinned, by Moynahan
39. Romanovs: The Final Chapter, by Massie
40. Romanovs: Love, Power & Tragedy, by Bokhanov
42. Six Years at the Russian Court, by Eagar
43. Tsar: The Lost World of Nicholas and Alexandra, by Kurth
44. Tsesarevich, by Barkovets
Sarushka, these are the books that you and I have in common... :D
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Dear Sarushka,
I love to visit your city of Detroit because I can visit one of my favourite used bookstores in the US: John King http://www.rarebooklink.com/cgi-bin/kingbooks/ My other favourite is the main Strand Books in NYC. My favourite bookstore in Russia is Moscow House of Books with my second favourite in Saint Petersburg, the first floor book stores in the old Singer Building on Nevsky Prospekt.
David
Where is the Strand Books in NYC?
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Downtown, around 12th St.? I am being hazy here, it's been awhile.
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Thanks, I'm going to go in and find it when I have a day off...
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he strand
Where is the Strand Books in NYC?
It's on Broadway and 12th Street, on the north side of B'way, you can't miss it because there are all these books layed out in front of it!
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I have no bookshelf :( I have always wanted a collection like you all have, but never could buy them all and felt bad spending money on myself. I have a few books, nothing to take a picture of, but most of what I've read has come from the library. I remember what I read, but not always exactly what book it was from, I've read so many over the years. This is why I don't 'quote sources' as frequently as Bear would like, I don't have my own personal library to just go get the book and start quoting from. I would love to see Bear's shelf, and if she has more than "File on the Tsar" and "Riddle of Anastasia." ;)
Same same..the only bookshelf I have is mainly stuffed dull of fantasy.::) Although I do plan on buying more books on royalty-Russian,English,German,Scottish....
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I would also recommend the book Marta of Muscovy, the Fabulous Life of Russia’s First Empress which is soley about Catherine I.
I repeatedly make the mistake of jumping into text without first reading the title of something. And here I've done it again.
After reading your recommendation, David, I rushed onto amazon.com to order Marta of Muscovy. Well, it just arrived and, after having read the Foreword, I belatedly noticed the recommendation was posted under the topic "Space Alien Intervention . . . ."
Some excerpts from the Foreword:
"Marta . . . was not remotely related to Catherine II, idiotically called 'The Great', the self-made widow of silly Peter III."
"Quantities of stuff have been written about this vain German nymphomaniac [Catherine II] . . . . "
"Catherine I appears to have had only four men, rather than four thousand or so, as in the case of Catherine 'the Great'".
Well, I'm off to watch some Star Trek reruns.
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I repeatedly make the mistake of jumping into text without first reading the title of something. And here I've done it again.
After reading your recommendation, David, I rushed onto amazon.com to order Marta of Muscovy. Well, it just arrived and, after having read the Foreword, I belatedly noticed the recommendation was posted under the topic "Space Alien Intervention . . . ."
Some excerpts from the Foreword:
"Marta . . . was not remotely related to Catherine II, idiotically called 'The Great', the self-made widow of silly Peter III."
"Quantities of stuff have been written about this vain German nymphomaniac [Catherine II] . . . . "
"Catherine I appears to have had only four men, rather than four thousand or so, as in the case of Catherine 'the Great'".
Well, I'm off to watch some Star Trek reruns.
I do not believe I read the forward at all. It does not seem to me to have been written by the auther of the biography because the text of the book is not written in such a way. Read the book, then make your comments. I think you will find it to be a decent biography but not a severely academic one. Do remember that when the book was written, 1945, people were not looking for footnotes and tables.
David
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My post was just a tongue-in-cheek jab at what the state of scholarship was on Russian history just a few decades ago, where such preposterous reports about Catherine II were taken seriously enough to pass unchallenged into a serious work on a ruler.
Actually, I am going to read the book, because I would like to know more about Catherine I . . . and I am glad you pointed out its existence.
Also, I'm intrigued to know how she accomplished all the things the author of the foreword implies she did in just two short years on the throne, as he feels the appellation "the Great" should be applied to Catherine I instead of the more famous Catherine.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/AGRBear/Library2.jpg)
Row Two.
Next row will be my European History books, which include some of my Russian books.
The heat isn't working in my quarters, so, I haven't been working on this task very quickly.
AGRBear
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Whoa Bear :o that's not even all your books? Wow, one could LIVE in your library...
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AGRBear,
The important question about your books is do you know where to find a particular book when you need it? I have always been cramped for space so my books are tightly packed on shelves by size to maximise shelf space and secondly by subject matter. I know where about 25% of my books are but the remaining books I only have a general idea of their location. You are very fortunate to have a room soley to accomadate your library.
Best wishes,
David
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This is her collection (she posted it earlier):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/AGRBear/Library1.jpg)
So bear, these are the boxes you think outside of? ;)
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AGRBear,
The important question about your books is do you know where to find a particular book when you need it? I have always been cramped for space so my books are tightly packed on shelves by size to maximise shelf space and secondly by subject matter. I know where about 25% of my books are but the remaining books I only have a general idea of their location. You are very fortunate to have a room soley to accomadate your library.
Best wishes,
David
By author from "A" to "Z" on the fiction, novels and non-fiction.
When I get to the Russian section, it will be in groups such as "Rulers of Russia" and that will be in order that they ruled, and, if I have books about individuals they each go next to the parent who ruled. If they are not a child of a ruler, then they are placed next to the ruler where their ancestors were linked with the ruler. "Travel" has it's own section. Oversized books are difficult but these shevles will allow me to placed them in their correct section.
Wars with Napoleon has it's own section because it combines Russia and France, so, that's between these two section. And, I have a great interest in this time period.
My shelves are similar to that of a book store and run the lenght of the each row.
I'll have other book shevles with sections just dealing with genealogy which incorporates books, binders, etc. of each family unit. The two main units are my family and my husband's family. And those are divided into subgroups.
Now, you know why I smile when Annie asks me if I have just one book, FILE ON THE TSAR ;D
My Russian collection is just general stuff, no real collector kind-of-books, with a great deal of attention to German-Russians who were Germans who migrated into Russian lands throughout history.
Thanks for being interested.
AGRBear
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So bear, these are the boxes you think outside of? ;)
I chuckled.
:D
AGRBear
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Tedders...all the rest are speaking about 2nd hand bookshops....you and I are are the only ones in tin foil hats,drinking martinis under the garden hedge,waiting for passing Valsaldatorian space gorgons...or vicars...to pass by on the road....sighs ....
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You and Tedders are not alone ! Planning my next Romanov Space rescue as we speak [trip to Russia, secret mission !]
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No Tedders..."Robert Hall" is not a country house in Dorset....He is a a very brave chap who risks life and limb and at times spleen for the good of us all....That teddy just can't handle the Brie-stuffed olives...sad.....
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You and Tedders are not alone ! Planning my next Romanov Space rescue as we speak [trip to Russia, secret mission !]
Oooh...how very exciting...
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I chuckled.
:D
AGRBear
Me too.
And who ever would have thought we could all get along so well on a survivor thread?
;)
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Me too.
And who ever would have thought we could all get along so well on a survivor thread?
;)
Shhhh Sarushka you'll jinx it. :-X ;D ;)
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*tiptoes to take a picture of everyone getting along*
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*tiptoes to take a picture of everyone getting along*
**smiles quietly to self, so as not to break the spell...**
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*tiptoes to take a picture of everyone getting along*
Dangnabbit...I just hate when Tedders holds up two fingers behind my head when pics are to be taken....it lacks gravitas.... >:(
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Dangnabbit...I just hate when Tedders holds up two fingers behind my head when pics are to be taken....it lacks gravitas.... >:(
Ah but he makes such splendiferous Belvedere Martinis. One must forgive...
PS, Bob has forbidden pics of the library as "too messy". The Russian section alone is four bays of floor to ceiling shelves, each 3' wide and 7' tall, five shelves per bay, and some "double stuffed". Last estimate, off the cuff was 700+ volumes just on Russian history. At least that much more on European art, history, design, icons, architecture, and not to mention all my books relegated to the "little library" or my office, another 600 or so. The cats have a wonderful hiding spot.
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PS, Bob has forbidden pics of the library as "too messy".
:-[ Aww! Pretty please?
Just teasing...mostly... ;)
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FA are your cats mousers?
Mine seem to sleep all day and all night and have forgotten they were created to catch mice.
I have discovered mice in my library here on the USS Enterprise 007
Bear is very upset.
Having gone into the future as far as I have, one would think the future superior intelligent being would have learn how to contol mice.
Mice are survivors and wil continue to be around our two cats Double and Trouble who were born on a farm on earth and should know it's their duty to catch mice.
Well, I'm off with some iron cats [cages] smeared with peanut butter.
AGRBear
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We have no mouse problem. Mischa and Baxter are quite active and inquisitive.
Baxter:
(http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/ForumImages/Baxter2.jpg)
Mischa:
(http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/ForumImages/Mischa1.jpg)
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Best cat fun....getting into bed with a crow which has been torn to pieces.... :P ...ALWAYS turn on the light before getting into bed.....
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OH FA!
You're kitties are SO DARN CUTE!!!! Thank you for posting their pictures! I remember when we had the Member Pictures Thread One, and I recall a picture of a little Baxter, or was that a different kitty? :)
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Same kitties. All grown up now...
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Ahem -- are those cats perched on a fish tank??
I sense fishy trauma... :o
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It appears I didn't know the whole story.
I was complaining to one of my sons about the cats getting lazy. He laughed and said, they were still good at catching mice but sometimes one of the mice gets away.
Well, the one which did get away is, now, in my library.
I'll see if I can find pictures of our two sisters in the "Crime of the Mouse" Case.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/AGRBear/Cat1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/AGRBear/Cat2.jpg)
They are sisters.
Guess which is "Trouble"?
Age is about eleven years.
ARBear
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Another cat thread! All ADORABLE.
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Russian History Books and Cats, I can't think of a better thread, lol ;D
AGRBear! Your kitties are quite beautiful!
Is the second one "Trouble"? Older kitties have quite a bit of character! I have a 13 year old here, who is getting quite silly in his old age. :)
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Is it permitted to talk about my dog? She's a Bichon, and a total wuss, and any of your [elderly or not] cats could take her. :D She's almost 9 years old and thinks she owns the world. She acts more like a cat than a dog.
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Is it permitted to talk about my dog? She's a Bichon, and a total wuss, and any of your [elderly or not] cats could take her. :D She's almost 9 years old and thinks she owns the world. She acts more like a cat than a dog.
I have a 3 yr old Bichon. His name is Misha, who makes a delightful companion to me daughter's Maltese, Charlunya. Misha is my precious fluffy snowball who beemed into my life a few months ago.
Dogs rule my spaceship. ;D ;D
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Go dogs! Mine's name is Snowball. It's one big Bichon Buzz over here.
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Bear loves dogs. In fact, one of our dogs looks like a golden bear, who is a Golden Retriever with a huge square head. These dogs are suppose to be about 83 ounds. Not our Golden. He's abot 200 pounds. He's the only dog I've ever seen that is bred to hunt who had to be taught how to swim, if tht is what one calls thrashing to keep his nose out of water. He will never be an Olympic swimmer. He's a wuz. Can't get him into a space ship.... But what a character. We, also, have a marvelous and sweet Kentucky hunting Irish Setter who's ears are too short.... Oh, how he loves to run. This bred of dog is a piece of art in motion.
At the moment, the red dog is asleep on our bed, on his back with his legs in the air. The yellow is on another bed and holding his blankie and asleep.
Love my animal friends. ;D
Was thinking about starting a list of my Russian books since I am not putting another book on the sheves until I track down the smart mouse we've acquired in the library due to you know whos.
ARBear
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/AGRBear/Dog1Face.jpg)
Our Irish Setter. About five years old.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/AGRBear/Dog2Face.jpg)
Our Golden Retriever. Two years old.
AGRBear
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As usual, I'm still learning patience, and have to wait for our daughter to take a picture of our dog 'bear'. I got our dog bear almost 18 years ago, but bear still acts like a puppy at times, and thinks his bark rules. :D Bear sleeps on his back, with all four paws in the air. The funny part though, his head hangs down backwards over the edge of his bed. He's a pip! You may or may not believe me, but like a few dogs can do, he speaks a few actual words. He also likes to go 'mouse hunting'. Bear weighs about 15 lbs, and we think is an australian silky. Maybe you can help tell us what type of breed he is, when his picture is shared. Thanks everyone for your pictures and info about your pets. They are all great looking pets ! Enjoy the stories you share about them also.
Tatiana+
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Aww, AGRBear, your golden retriever reminds me of Paursha, my grandma's dog. She died when I was maybe five, but she had been one of my best friends. (I used to like dogs better than people.)
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We've had three Golden Retrievers. The first one had been badly treated and my son heard about him and brought him home. He just passed away not long ago and I rushed out and found another Golden.
I highly recomend this bred of dog, especially if you have children.
RedRosesInSnow.
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Yes Golden Retrievers are great dogs.
David_Pritchard:
Just received my copy of THE THREE EMPRESSES by Philip Longforth.
Thanks David or listing it.
Looks interesting.
AGRBear
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We've had three Golden Retrievers. The first one had been badly treated and my son heard about him and brought him home. He just passed away not long ago and I rushed out and found another Golden.
I highly recomend this bred of dog, especially if you have children.
RedRosesInSnow.
Hi! I agree, this is a GREAT type of dog. Do you have a picture of any of yours?
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(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/margaritamarkovna/Maggie/Coloredromanov010.jpg)
My dog, Snowball. ;D
Edit: I made it smaller but you might have to refresh the page to see the size change, for some reason. ???
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Since the shelfing of my books is on hold up here on USS Enterprise 007, I think I'll start my list of books:
Alexander I, Tsar of Russia
#Alexander I, Tsar of War and Peace by Alan Palmer
#Tsar Alexander I, Paternalistic Reformer by Allen McConnell
#Imperial Legend, The Mysertious Disappearance of Tsar Alexander I by Alexis S. Troubetzkoy
#Alexander of Russia by Henri Troyat
#Alexander I of Russia, The Man Who Defeated Napoleon by Leonid Strakhovsky
Alexander II, Tsar of Russia
#Alexander II by Edvard Radzinsky
#Russia in the Age of Aleander II, Tolstoy and Dostoevsky by Walter G. Moss
Notes:
A. Alexander II was married twice. Books listed for them are:
>First wife:
>>Second wife:
#Katia, Wife Before God by Alexandre Tarsaidze, which is about Princess Catherine [Katia] Yourievskaya
B. Children of Alexander II by first wife
1)
2)
3)
4)
5)
6) Serge
>Wife was Elizabeth:
#Elizabeth, Grand Duchess of Russia by Hugo Mager
7) Paul
>Alexandra, Princess of Greece
Children of Paul of first wife were:
(1) Maria
#Education of a Princess by Grand Duchess Maria
(2) Dmitri
C. Children of Alexander II by his second wife:
Alexander III, Tsar of Russia
Notes:
A. Wife of Alexander III:
# The Little Mother by _____ [on loan]
B. Children of Alexander III's
(1) Alexander
(2)#See Nicholas II, Tsar of Russia
(3) Georg
(4) Xeina:
# Once a Grand Duchess, Xenia, Sister of Nicholas II by John von der Kiste and Coryne Hall
(5) Michael
#Michael and Natasha, The Life and Love of Michael II, the Last of the Romanov Tsars by Rosemary and Donald Crawford
>Wife of Michael:
#A Fatal Passion, The Story of the Uncrowned Last Empress of Russia by Michael j. Sulllivan
(6) Olga
Anne, Tsarina of Russia
#The Three Empressses, Catherine I, Alnne & Elisabeth of Russia
Catherine I, Tsarina of Russia
#The Three Empressses, Catherine I, Alnne & Elisabeth of Russia
#Tsar's Woman by Pamela Hill
Catherine II, Tsarina of Russia
#Great Catherine by Carolly Erickson
#The Loves of Catherine the Great by Vsevolod A. Nikolaev & Albert Parry
#Treasure of Imperial Russia, Catherine he Great from the State Hermitage Museum, St. Ptersburg presented by the Armand Hammer Museum of Art and Cultural Center, Los Angeles
#Catherine the Great by Miriam Kochan
#Catharine the Great, Life and Legend by John T. Alexander
#Catehrine Empress of All the Russias by Vincent Cronin
#Catherine the Great by Katharine Anthony
#Catherine The Great by John Haslip
Elisabeth
#Elisabeth and Catherine, Empresses of All The Russias by Robert Coughlan
Ivan, the Terrible
#Ivan, the Terrible by Henri Troyat
Nicholas II, Tsar of Russia
#Nicolas and Alexandra by Robert K Massie
#The Romanovs, The Final Chaper by Robert K. Massie
#The Romanov Family Album with the introduction by Robert K. Massie
#The Lost World of Nichoas and Alexandra, The Tsar by Peter Kurth
#The Romanovs, love, power & tragedy told through the diaries and family albums of the Last Tsar and Tsarina by Bokhanov, Knodt, Oustimenkoa, Peregudova and Tyutyunnik. Translated by Lyudmila Zenofontova
#The Camera and the Tsars, A Romanov Familyh Album by Charlotte Zeepvat [About Nicholas II and his family which includes the other Tsars who were photographed]
#A Lifelong Passion, Nicholas and Alexadra, Their Own Story by Maylunas & Mironenko
#The Private Wolrd of the Last Tsar, In the Photographs and Notes of General Count Alexander Grabbe, Edited by Paul and Beatrice Grabbe
#The Fall of the Romanovs by Steinberg and Khrustalev
#The Fate of the Romanovs by King and Wilson
#Dead Men Do Tell Tales by Willian R. Maples, Ph.D., forensic anthropologist - See chapter15: The Tsar of All the Russians p. 238
#The Plots to Rescue the Tsar by Shay McNeal
#The File on the Tsar by Summers a#nd Mangold
#Nicholas II, The Lst of the Tsars by Marc Ferro
#Nicholas II, Twilight of the Empire by Dominic Lieven
Notes:
A. Nicholas II was married to Alexandra. Books listed for her are:
#The Last Diary of Tsaritsa Alexandra with introduction by Robert K. Massie
# The Last Empress by Greg King
Peter I "the Great"
#Peter the Great, His life and World by Robert K. Massie
Romanovs
#The Romanovs by Virginia Cowles
#The Romanovs, Autocracts of All the Russias by W. Bruce Lincoln
#The Romanovs 1818-1959 by John van der Kiste
#The Flight of the Romanovs, A Family Saga by Perry and Pleshakov
#Tragic Dynasty by John Bergamini
Books On Russia Under the Tsars and Tsarinas
#Before the Revolution, Russia and its people under the Czar by FitzLyon and Browning -300 rare photographs
#Daily Life in Russia under the Last Tsar by Henri Troyat
#Lord and Peasant in Russia by Jerome Blum
#The Family In Imperial Russia by David Ransel
#Land of the Firebird, The Beauty of Old Russia by Suzanne Massie
#Great Private Collections of Imperial Russia with Intoductions by Piotrovsky and H.H. Nicholas Romanov, Prince of Russia by Oleg Yakovlevich Neverov
Books on the Russian Revolution
#The Russian Revolution 1918-1921: From the Civil War to the Consolidation of Power, Vol. II, by William Chamberlin
#A People's Tragedy, The Russian Revolution 1891-1924 by Orlando Figes
General History of Russia
#A History of Russia by George Vernadsky
# Lenin's Tomb, The Last Days of the Soviet Empire, by David Remnick
#Companion to Russian History by John Paxton
Gotta go for now. I'll fix mispellings when I discover them ;D
AGRBear
PS Those of you who see spelling or other errors, PM me so we don't need to clutter this thread because of my terrible typing on my lap top or my spelling. Thanks.
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#The Last Diary of Tsaritsa Alexandra by Robert K. Massie
By Massie? Is it translated by him or something?
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Oops. I'll go change that one.
Thanks
AGRBear
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OH! Okay lol!
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This is our puppy whom we call "Kody".
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/RedRosesInSnow/KodyFaceTyPup.jpg)
Red Roses In Snow IV, his offical name.
He is a red Golden Retriever.
RedRosesInSnow
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Adorable. Very, very cute.
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Here are my pets:
This is Misha with his new summer trim (he was a rescue dog). Misha is 3 years old.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/sadbear/Misha-October2005.jpg)
and Charl'unya (a.k.a. Charlie). He was awarded a blue ribbon for coming first and third in his obedience classes. We humans are so proud of his academic achievements. He will be four years old in March.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/sadbear/Charlie-October2005.jpg)
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By Massie? Is it translated by him or something?
Nope -- it was written in English. Massie did the introduction.
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Thanks Sarushka. ;)
AGRBear- your dogs are so cute! (I feel like I'm saying that a lot, but it's true.) The second one looks like my dog when she was younger. (Snowball is 9 years old now.)
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Nope -- it was written in English. Massie did the introduction.
That's right, Alexandra wrote in English. She and Nicky's letters to each other were in English too.
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Your pets are cute! Here are my cats:
(http://www.boomspeed.com/kittylove/fiestysteps.jpg)
(http://www.boomspeed.com/kittylove/bonosteps.jpg)
(http://www.boomspeed.com/kittylove/samanthasteps.jpg)
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Aw, I bet that last cat could ask for anything with those eyes!
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...[in part]
Your pets are cute! Here are my cats:
(http://www.boomspeed.com/kittylove/fiestysteps.jpg)
This cat reminds me of a Cat we had some years ago. He had his own name T.S.. The story doesn't stop there. He was an amazing cat. On his morning route in the neighborhood, he would stop and visit a young boy who is "special". The boy just loved that cat and would as a toddler just follow him and he was able to break his fear of leaving his home. He would often times come up to visit T.S., who's name he had changed to "Junior", pronouced as "Jun.your". He started his "special" school ....and is working his way into the world.
Since today is Valetnines Day, I send that black and white cat special prayer for his achievements when he was of this world.
AGRBear
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This is not exactly an Imperial Palace, but the rabbit seems to be satisfied:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d94/rubberduck-6/Some%20nice%20pics/CasadelConiglio.jpg[/IMG]
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Now that's a fair sized wabbit ! :) Thanks for sharing your rabbit's picture.
Please know I have now entered Francisco into my prayers. God Bless !
Tatiana+
This is not exactly an Imperial Palace, but the rabbit seems to be satisfied:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d94/rubberduck-6/Some%20nice%20pics/CasadelConiglio.jpg[/IMG]
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Aw, I bet that last cat could ask for anything with those eyes!
She sure can! She's very smart and good.
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This cat reminds me of a Cat we had some years ago. He had his own name T.S.. The story doesn't stop there. He was an amazing cat. On his morning route in the neighborhood, he would stop and visit a young boy who is "special". The boy just loved that cat and would as a toddler just follow him and he was able to break his fear of leaving his home. He would often times come up to visit T.S., who's name he had changed to "Junior", pronouced as "Jun.your". He started his "special" school ....and is working his way into the world.
Since today is Valetnines Day, I send that black and white cat special prayer for his achievements when he was of this world.
AGRBear
That's sweet, bear. I am all choked up. He must have been very special. Animals can touch our lives in so many ways and leave marks, happy, sad, and bittersweet. I'm going to go hug my Fiesty now.
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Space aliens to libraries, to dogs, cats & wabbits -- go figure!
Anyway, here's my late great poochie, Cinnamon:
(http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/3966/10006978af.th.jpg) (http://img418.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10006978af.jpg)
Note St Francis in the background, keeping an eye on my OBD (old blind dog). ;)
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Awww, he looked precious.
Rubberduck, what happened to the pic of you holding the cat, I liked it! The cat looked just like my Samantha's father. He was a stray who kept coming around for 11 years. You'd see him every day for days, then nothing for weeks, even months, but he'd always come back. The last time I saw him, he was so old, weak and sometihng in his face said "I haven't got long to go, I want to spend my last days here with the only kin I know I have left" who were Samantha and her kids. For the first time ever, he tried to get inside the house. One morning he came for breakfast, then walked away around the bend in the road like he always did, and I never saw him again.
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T.S. was a special cat.
Love the Wabbit's box that says no cats allowed.
AGRBear
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Obviously Alexei liked pets, too, probably this picture has been taken on board of the "Standart", by his sister, I don't know exactly:
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d94/rubberduck-6/A.jpg)
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Some links which show other Romanov pets:
1)
Nicholas II: http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=nicky;action=display;num=1112229954;start=0
2) Imperial Family pets/Romanov's...:
http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=family;action=display;num=1112378316;start=0
AGRBear
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Aw, they're so cute! The fact that they were such big animal lovers shows me they must have been very nice people inside :)
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For me, it's the 'inside' that allows me to connect with real hearts. I'm so glad Rubber_duck6 brought the picture of his IH Alexis with the kittens to share with us.
After all, it brings us back to the theme of why these threads exist. It's a lovely picture Rubber_duck6.Thanks for your kind sharing !
Tatiana+
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OK...plunging right along in darkest space...Did the IF have a gramophone/phonograph or whatever?...Any pics of said machine?...To what did they listen ?
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And, they also watched movies from the US, or, so I'm told. I don't recall what their favorites were. Nor do I remember where I read about it. [Seem to be having memory laspses today. Sorry.]
AGRBear
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OK...plunging right along in darkest space...Did the IF have a gramophone/phonograph or whatever?...Any pics of said machine?...To what did they listen ?
I'm pretty sure they did...there was a "music they listened to" thread in Having Fun and it mentioned that they listened to music and it had to be on something...
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Evidently, I accomplished a NO NO and have entered this forum on the same office whats-a-callit as AGRBear who is my boss and owns the account and uses for her link into this forum. I will need to go home and use my account for a new old me. Now, I'll have to think up a new name but I don't have to change my puppy's logo so you'll know me by RedRosesInSnow IV, who has stolen our hearts, and if you knew him, he'd steal your hearts, too. And so smart this guy puppy.
See you in my next life.
RedRosesInSnow.
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Yes! They did have a gramophone! Here is a pictures of the one at the Livadia Palace:
(http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9237/p10100909pv.th.jpg) (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100909pv.jpg)
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Thanks Laura! I love the picture of Tatiana and Alexandra in the back.
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He he...I gotta throw my two roubles worth into this discussion...the original discussion...
Ritka, I've already told you this...what if my girlfriend was a member of the IF? I mean, her name's also Marie Nikolaevna (not Romanov though, that'd be freakish), the two look a lot alike - and I thought this is kind of a funny coincidence - she was born on July 17. Most of her family is Russian, as well; most of them live in the Ural Mountains. I figure it's like having a member of the IF around all of the time.
I'm not actually serious about this, I just figured that if we add aliens into the picture, I can add, at least, a real person.
:)
OK I'm done.
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Ahh, didn't you know that to be a claimant one must be 99% NOT Russian? :D
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Ah yes. That is true.
It was a nice thought...
;D
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Ah, well, it WAS, but it simply had too much logic to be on this board! ;D
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Someone asked about gramophones. Here is a thread:
http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=family;action=display;num=1110150046
AGRBear
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Ah, well, it WAS, but it simply had too much logic to be on this board! ;D
That much is obvious...not that "too much logic" is a lot on this board...
Well, the logic has a place, it's just that the assumptions behind the logic are faulty.
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Due to popular request, this is just the Russian section of Bob's library, and does not include the books that are not regularly used, which are in another part, nor does it include the dozen or two Russian history books that seem to always live in my office 8)
(http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/forumimages/library.jpg)
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Not bad, glad to see that I am not the only one who has to stack books on books, and takes more than 2 rooms to hold them all !
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Yay -- at long last, the fabled Atchison library!
:-*
I wonder, if I sit here squinting at the spines long enough, how many titles I'll be able to recognize? So far, the only one I can spot is Radzinsky's Last Tsar...
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Not bad, glad to see that I am not the only one who has to stack books on books, and takes more than 2 rooms to hold them all !
Is that all? My double parked shelved books have friends stacked in high piles all around my study on the floor, not including those doubled parked in bookcases in two other rooms. At least the books are in categories which makes it a little easy to sift through. Many tomes have also migrated into my husband's study as well.
My expanding collection continually creeps around every possible interstacy available, including around the dog baskets! My pets can claim to have become literary dogs.
My neighbor is a professional military historian and his lounge room has been completely taken over by a huge compactus system. Now there is something to aspire to! ;D
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Yay -- at long last, the fabled Atchison library!
:-*
I wonder, if I sit here squinting at the spines long enough, how many titles I'll be able to recognize? So far, the only one I can spot is Radzinsky's Last Tsar...
Thanks for the wonderful image FA. A few close ups would really be nice. I don't want poor Sarushka to suffer any longer!.
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Haha, I"m with Sarushka on this one! I can't recognize a single book, mostly because I think my glasses are the wrong prescription. But it's a VERY nice library!
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Frankly, I'm more concerned with the mustard bottle! :D
Great pic. Thanks.
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Wow...I wish that I had a library like that on Russia...
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I just KNEW someone would mention the mustard bottle. ;D
It holds the oil for the lampada hanging over the icon of St. Elisabeth.
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I just KNEW someone would mention the mustard bottle. ;D
It holds the oil for the lampada hanging over the icon of St. Elisabeth.
*whew* ;)
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Mustard bottle? ???
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There is a yellow plastic squeeze bottle on the top shelf above the TV in Bob's library. The kind you find holding mustard in cheap restaurants...its much easier to fill the lampada with oil using it, rather than trying to pour out a tiny amount of lamp oil from the bottle the oil comes in.
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Oh! lol I missed it when I was looking at the picture.
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Thanks for the wonderful image FA. A few close ups would really be nice. I don't want poor Sarushka to suffer any longer!.
(http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/forumimages/library1.jpg)
(http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/forumimages/library2.jpg)
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Oooh! Thanks for indulging us, Rob. These are wonderful! :D
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I agree! :o Wow!
(Also, the icon on the bottom shelf is gorgeous. My neighbor's husband had a similar one and it was his favorite. After he died, my neighbor put it on a similar spot on her bookshelf.)
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Once again it really does look like we all shop in the same bookstore! ;D
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Wow...my library consists of maybe half of that shelf there...and only three of the books have the slightest thing to do with the Romanovs - or Russia in general. Must...buy...books!
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Once again it really does look like we all shop in the same bookstore! ;D
Yes, but look at all those lovely OLD books. I want to visit the bookstore where Bob found those! 8)
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Once again it really does look like we all shop in the same bookstore! ;D
Indeed, even if it takes an ocean to get there!
Spasibo FA for the literary feast. Very nice!
Margarita ;D
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I still can quite make out the titles.
Let's start at the top and call it row one.
Left to right.
Thanks
AGRBear
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Markhall/HenryVIII016.jpg)
The rescued Emperor and his faithfull sapce Chihuahua
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No, Tedders...We shan't lob mustard bottle grenades at Helen_A for kicking teds...She must be under tremendous strain...or mad...like vicars...
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No, Tedders...We shan't lob mustard bottle grenades at Helen_A for kicking teds...
(http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5228/shhh2wi.jpg)
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(http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5228/shhh2wi.jpg)
She's a good man,Tedders, is our Helen...I says we lets her into the club...full folded paper hats and wooden swords...Old Pete,the antique gardener de la Grany will have to exhibit his skills once again...Some folk as will read "serious" books Tedders...I don't think they are ready for "Three Ickle Monkeys Shop In Fulham"
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She's a good man,Tedders, is our Helen...I says we lets her into the club...full folded paper hats and wooden swords...Old Pete,the antique gardener de la Grany will have to exhibit his skills once again...Some folk as will read "serious" books Tedders...I don't think they are ready for "Three Ickle Monkeys Shop In Fulham"
Hey I wanna be in the folded paper hats and wooden swords club too.Do I have to kick Tedders to be included? ;D
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Club? What shall it be called?
:o
Dude! Mustard bottle grenades?! I want some!
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Well, if we're going to get silly!
May I present...drum roll...
Super Ted, the ULTIMATE Romanov authority
(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9978/10035018xg.th.jpg) (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10035018xg.jpg)
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That beer has got to be a JOKE! ;D
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That beer has got to be a JOKE! ;D
Nope -- real beer, real bottle. My neighbor got it at Trader Joe's, I think. I can't vouch for its taste, though. I don't drink. ;D
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Ah, Trader Joe's...the maker of the food of the gods...
And apparently Romanov-history-reading-bears.
Besides, we all know that the greatest minds of our time drink, right? NOT. He's special though.
:)
Now I feel inclined to stage a funny photo...but my materials are somewhat limited.
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OK...the ULTIMATE grocery isn't Trader Joe's in Yanksylvania...it's METROPOLITAN MARKET...Gad-Zookies...Just to see the veg on display...Tedders off-ten stands for moments before the zucchini...and weeps...He a veddy sensitive ted...when not drinking...
Folded paper hats and wooden swords are to be had from Messrs. "Old Pete", Grannie's Garden, The Middling Monstrance, Stickvicars, Norfolk...some dead boring numbers and such...UK...some dead boring planet and such...Your post shall be servced promptly...as Tedders sees fit...when he is fit...and can see...erm...never mind...carry on...chairs...eton
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Well, if we're going to get silly!
May I present...drum roll...
Super Ted, the ULTIMATE Romanov authority
(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9978/10035018xg.th.jpg) (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10035018xg.jpg)
I can hardly see my keyboard through my tears of laughter.
AGRBear
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UPDATE ON LIST OF BEAR"S BOOK SHELVES:
My books is on hold up here on USS Enterprise 007.
Alexander I, Tsar of Russia
#Alexander I, Tsar of War and Peace by Alan Palmer
#Tsar Alexander I, Paternalistic Reformer by Allen McConnell
#Imperial Legend, The Mysertious Disappearance of Tsar Alexander I by Alexis S. Troubetzkoy
#Alexander of Russia by Henri Troyat
#Alexander I of Russia, The Man Who Defeated Napoleon by Leonid Strakhovsky
Alexander II, Tsar of Russia
#Alexander II by Edvard Radzinsky
#Russia in the Age of Aleander II, Tolstoy and Dostoevsky by Walter G. Moss
Notes:
A. Alexander II was married twice. Books listed for them are:
>First wife:
>>Second wife:
#Katia, Wife Before God by Alexandre Tarsaidze, which is about Princess Catherine [Katia] Yourievskaya
B. Children of Alexander II by first wife
1)
2)
3)
4)
5)
6) Serge
>Wife was Elizabeth:
#Elizabeth, Grand Duchess of Russia by Hugo Mager
7) Paul
>Alexandra, Princess of Greece
Children of Paul of first wife were:
(1) Maria
#Education of a Princess by Grand Duchess Maria
(2) Dmitri
C. Children of Alexander II by his second wife:
Alexander III, Tsar of Russia
Notes:
A. Wife of Alexander III:
# The Little Mother by _____ [on loan]
B. Children of Alexander III's
(1) Alexander
(2)#See Nicholas II, Tsar of Russia
(3) Georg
(4) Xeina:
# Once a Grand Duchess, Xenia, Sister of Nicholas II by John von der Kiste and Coryne Hall
(5) Michael
#Michael and Natasha, The Life and Love of Michael II, the Last of the Romanov Tsars by Rosemary and Donald Crawford
>Wife of Michael:
#A Fatal Passion, The Story of the Uncrowned Last Empress of Russia by Michael j. Sulllivan
(6) Olga
Anne, Tsarina of Russia
#The Three Empressses, Catherine I, Alnne & Elisabeth of Russia
Catherine I, Tsarina of Russia
#The Three Empressses, Catherine I, Alnne & Elisabeth of Russia
#Tsar's Woman by Pamela Hill
Catherine II, Tsarina of Russia
#Great Catherine by Carolly Erickson
#The Loves of Catherine the Great by Vsevolod A. Nikolaev & Albert Parry
#Treasure of Imperial Russia, Catherine he Great from the State Hermitage Museum, St. Ptersburg presented by the Armand Hammer Museum of Art and Cultural Center, Los Angeles
#Catherine the Great by Miriam Kochan
#Catharine the Great, Life and Legend by John T. Alexander
#Catehrine Empress of All the Russias by Vincent Cronin
#Catherine the Great by Katharine Anthony
#Catherine The Great by John Haslip
Elisabeth
#Elisabeth and Catherine, Empresses of All The Russias by Robert Coughlan
Ivan, the Terrible
#Ivan, the Terrible by Henri Troyat
Nicholas II, Tsar of Russia
#Nicolas and Alexandra by Robert K Massie
#The Romanovs, The Final Chaper by Robert K. Massie
#The Romanov Family Album with the introduction by Robert K. Massie
#The Lost World of Nichoas and Alexandra, The Tsar by Peter Kurth
#The Romanovs, love, power & tragedy told through the diaries and family albums of the Last Tsar and Tsarina by Bokhanov, Knodt, Oustimenkoa, Peregudova and Tyutyunnik. Translated by Lyudmila Zenofontova
#The Camera and the Tsars, A Romanov Familyh Album by Charlotte Zeepvat [About Nicholas II and his family which includes the other Tsars who were photographed]
#A Lifelong Passion, Nicholas and Alexadra, Their Own Story by Maylunas & Mironenko
#The Private Wolrd of the Last Tsar, In the Photographs and Notes of General Count Alexander Grabbe, Edited by Paul and Beatrice Grabbe
#The Fall of the Romanovs by Steinberg and Khrustalev
#The Fate of the Romanovs by King and Wilson
#Dead Men Do Tell Tales by Willian R. Maples, Ph.D., forensic anthropologist - See chapter15: The Tsar of All the Russians p. 238
#The Plots to Rescue the Tsar by Shay McNeal
#The File on the Tsar by Summers a#nd Mangold
#Nicholas II, The Lst of the Tsars by Marc Ferro
#Nicholas II, Twilight of the Empire by Dominic Lieven
Notes:
A. Nicholas II was married to Alexandra. Books listed for her are:
#The Last Diary of Tsaritsa Alexandra with introduction by Robert K. Massie
# The Last Empress by Greg King
Peter I "the Great"
#Peter the Great, His life and World by Robert K. Massie
Romanovs
#The Romanovs by Virginia Cowles
#The Romanovs, Autocracts of All the Russias by W. Bruce Lincoln
#The Romanovs 1818-1959 by John van der Kiste
#The Flight of the Romanovs, A Family Saga by Perry and Pleshakov
#Tragic Dynasty by John Bergamini
Books On Russia Under the Tsars and Tsarinas
#Before the Revolution, Russia and its people under the Czar by FitzLyon and Browning -300 rare photographs
#Daily Life in Russia under the Last Tsar by Henri Troyat
#Lord and Peasant in Russia by Jerome Blum
#The Family In Imperial Russia by David Ransel
#Land of the Firebird, The Beauty of Old Russia by Suzanne Massie
#Great Private Collections of Imperial Russia with Intoductions by Piotrovsky and H.H. Nicholas Romanov, Prince of Russia by Oleg Yakovlevich Neverov
Books on the Russian Revolution
#The Russian Revolution 1918-1921: From the Civil War to the Consolidation of Power, Vol. II, by William Chamberlin
#A People's Tragedy, The Russian Revolution 1891-1924 by Orlando Figes
General History of Russia
#A History of Russia by George Vernadsky
# Lenin's Tomb, The Last Days of the Soviet Empire, by David Remnick
#Companion to Russian History by John Paxton
Novels:
#The Retreat From Moscow by E. M. Almedingen
Those of you who see spelling or other errors, PM me so we don't need to clutter this thread because of my terrible typing on my lap top or my spelling. Thanks.
AGRBear
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Sarah- "Going to get silly"? The topic is space aliens, after all. It started out silly !
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Speaking of being silly. I'd like you to meet one of the silliest bears I know:
Flapdoodles
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/AGRBear/BksSpacemanBlBear.jpg)
He tells us his usual "Blah blah blahs,"
which is always the same:
"b-o-l-o-g-n-a"
which Trader Joe's probably doesn't know exists in our high class spaceships.
AGRBear ;)
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I try to see, not past the logic of the cosmic bear to the conclusion, but through it that I may be one with the world of Romanov Russia.
Now we just need a vodka-drinking, ice-skating bear...reading some books on history. Not too hard, apparently, because the Russians do it all the time...
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I try to see, not past the logic of the cosmic bear to the conclusion, but through it that I may be one with the world of Romanov Russia.
Now we just need a vodka-drinking, ice-skating bear...reading some books on history. Not too hard, apparently, because the Russians do it all the time...
I just happen to have such a bear. ;D ;D ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/Merrique73/bear2.jpg)
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Sarah- "Going to get silly"? The topic is space aliens, after all. It started out silly !
Silly? Some of us take it quite seriously! ;) ;D
</joke>
Actually I think I've come up with a new theory:
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/margaritamarkovna/Goofy/fam.jpg)
Mathilde Kschessinska, secretly an alien spy placed in Russia to save the IF, plots the escape route surrounded by all the missing family jewels.
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I had a caption for this...but isn't a picture worth 1000 words?
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5518/romanovjedi9tq.jpg)
;)
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I just KNEW the Wookie was in on it !
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If it was possible, Wookie would have helped the IF escape because he's such a big strong handsome guy.
(Bear swoons over his picture.)
AGRBear
PS Flapdoodles is a bear who is full of blarney or baloney as in foolish talk so it's never worth repeating.
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(http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9518/romanovs16jk.jpg)
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(http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9518/romanovs16jk.jpg)
You forgot the boa. ;D
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Mine was better.
;D
I think that, somewhat sadly, that's the best-looking piece I've ever done - and I wasn't even using Photoshop.
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Mine was better.
;D
Points for modesty.
I think that, somewhat sadly, that's the best-looking piece I've ever done - and I wasn't even using Photoshop.
MS Paint?
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(http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9518/romanovs16jk.jpg)
If all the Whites in my family would have lived, they would be proud to see that you realize Bears were loyal to the Tsar and his family all the way to the end. And, that is no joke.
Thank you Helen.
AGRBear
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The combined power of Luke, Han and Leia - and the great Wookieness of Chewie beats Pooh anyday.
It was a combined effort of Paint and MS Photo Editor for the black-and-whiting.
No offence to Pooh or Helen.
Perhaps I can cook up another one tonight...
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You forgot the boa. ;D
LOL! (And I'm at work -- whoops! ;))
I must say, I LOVE the new bear photos.
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Ivan's away message just now was funny and right on topic:
Auto response from Noodlz154: attempting to get Photoshop or GIMP to work...not having any luck...
Jedi Master Nicholas II vs. Sith Master Stalin! Who will win?
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Sorry if it's big...but you gotta get the full effect from it.
This took me about 12 hours of blood, sweat, and uncontrollable laughter. Sad part is...I actually thought through this. A lot.
(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3879/tsarwarsposter7fx.jpg)
Epic, isn't it?
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Brilliantly done!! Thanks for sharing. You're quite talented!
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*dies* That's wonderful.
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Sorry if it's big...but you gotta get the full effect from it.
This took me about 12 hours of blood, sweat, and uncontrollable laughter. Sad part is...I actually thought through this. A lot.
(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3879/tsarwarsposter7fx.jpg)
Epic, isn't it?
Owwww...Tedders...we MUST be at the premire....folded paper hats and swords....
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Did anyone else notice:
PG-13 "For action violence and crazy Russians"
Hoo-hoo-hooo!! LMAO. 8)
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Five minutes later, I'm still giggling to myself...
Super Ted will definitely be at the premier -- with Old Rasputin Imperial Stout for all his friends. 8)
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Mine was better.
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Absolutely!
Luckily for all of us here, Ivan K., you have way too much time on your hands ;D Excellent job with the latest!
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That was just absolutely brilliant! And incredibly funny.I'm dying laughing here. ;D :D ;D
As a critic I would have to give the film two thumbs up!
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Brilliant, Ivan.
Nicky & his faithfull space Chihuahua decing on what to wear for the premier. [they "rescued" a few crown jewels on their travels](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Markhall/Nicky001.jpg)
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Thanks everyone! It's good to see that my wasted time is well appreciated.
:D
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Thanks everyone! It's good to see that my wasted time is well appreciated.
:D
Not wasted at all. ;D You gave the whole forum the laugh of the week.
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Yes,Tedders...what with Ivan K.'s humour and Robert Hall's glam piccies...this has been a great week...Tedders...that's your 4th martini...Tedders...sigh
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I started a Tsar Wars thread under "Having Fun"...if I get enough support to do so, I might just write some of it up. Great lines await the pen...or the keyboard, really.
"Capture the Imperial Family? Is that legal? The Duma would never -"
"I will make it legal."
and...
"You have failed me for the last time, Captain Trotsky."
*icepick*
;D
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Oh gosh, now I have to dust off all the old Star Wars tapes...write Hayden into them...;D
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Yes,Tedders...Starwars happened long ago and far away in a place called the 1970's...perhaps the mullet will return to save us all.... ::)
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Tatiana asked me to upload her gorgeous photo of Bear with the following text:
I have waited patiently for bear's photo, and now share it with all of you if I may.
Bear is 17 years old, but still full of life and meeting everyday challenges. I wish to
express a very sincere thank you to Belochka for her kindness in helping me to share
this photo of our small pet, 'bear'.
Tatiana+
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/sadbear/TatianasBear.jpg)
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What a great face!
AGRBear
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All I can say is awwwwwwwwwwwwww..... 8-)
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All I can say is awwwwwwwwwwwwww..... 8-)
Me too!
Don't you just wanna squeeze that little puppy-face?! Hard to believe that's a 17-year-old dog!
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Thank you kindly for your comments on our little bear. We think he is quite a little character, and highly intelligent. His energy is boundless, and he keeps us in hilarity with much of his antics. Dogs are just a wonderful pet to have. I don't know what I would do without bear. He is a great watchdog, but most of all, a comfort. I know those of you whom have pets, know what I speak of. Thank you again !
Tatiana+
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He he. Dog. Bear. Dogbear. Beardog.
:D
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He he. Dog. Bear. Dogbear. Beardog.
:D
Just like my [ch1052][ch1080][ch1096][ch1072] (Russian for Bear) is a Dogbear too! ;D
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Just like my [ch1052][ch1080][ch1096][ch1072] (Russian for Bear) is a Dogbear too! ;D
You mean we can post Cyrillic now? Awesome! Or at least, you manged to.
Let's see if it works for me, too.
[ch1052][ch1077][ch1085][ch1103] [ch1079][ch1086][ch1074][ch1091][ch1090] [ch1048][ch1074][ch1072][ch1085] [ch1057][ch1072][ch1096][ch1077][ch1085][ch1082][ch1077][ch1074][ch1080][ch1095] [ch1050][ch1086][ch1084][ch1072][ch1088][ch1086][ch1074].
Dude...it works. I'm so happy!
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Just like my [ch1052][ch1080][ch1096][ch1072] (Russian for Bear) is a Dogbear too! ;D
You mean we can post Cyrillic now? Awesome! Or at least, you manged to.
Let's see if it works for me, too.
[ch1052][ch1077][ch1085][ch1103] [ch1079][ch1086][ch1074][ch1091][ch1090] [ch1048][ch1074][ch1072][ch1085] [ch1057][ch1072][ch1096][ch1077][ch1085][ch1082][ch1077][ch1074][ch1080][ch1095] [ch1050][ch1086][ch1084][ch1072][ch1088][ch1086][ch1074].
Dude...it works. I'm so happy!
[ch1047][ch1076][ch1088][ch1072][ch1074][ch1089][ch1090][ch1074][ch1091][ch1081][ch1090][ch1077], [ch1084][ch1077][ch1085][ch1103] [ch1079][ch1086][ch1074][ch1091][ch1090] [ch1052][ch1072][ch1088][ch1075][ch1072][ch1088][ch1080][ch1090][ch1072]. (Hello, my name is Margarita) :)
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[ch1048] [ch1084][ch1077][ch1085][ch1103] [ch1079][ch1086][ch1074][ch1091][ch1090] [ch1057][ch1072][ch1088][ch1091][ch1096][ch1082][ch1072]. [ch1054][ch1095][ch1077][ch1085][ch1100] [ch1087][ch1088][ch1080][ch1103][ch1090][ch1085][ch1086]!
(And I am called Sarushka. Pleased to meet you!)
Provided I remembered correctly... ::)
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A [ch1082][ch1090][ch1086] [ch1077][ch1097][ch1077] [ch1079][ch1076][ch1077][ch1089][ch1100] [ch1087][ch1086][ch1085][ch1080][ch1084][ch1072][ch1077][ch1090] [ch1056][ch1091][ch1089][ch1089][ch1082][ch1080][ch1081] [ch1103][ch1079][ch1099][ch1082]?
(Who else understands the Russian language here?)
;)
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A [ch1082][ch1090][ch1086] [ch1077][ch1097][ch1077] [ch1079][ch1076][ch1077][ch1089][ch1100] [ch1087][ch1086][ch1085][ch1080][ch1084][ch1072][ch1077][ch1090] [ch1056][ch1091][ch1089][ch1089][ch1082][ch1080][ch1081] [ch1103][ch1079][ch1099][ch1082]?
(Who else understands the Russian language here?)
;)
Everyone, if we keep up with the bilingual posts! ;D
(Sorry...carry on!)
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Hello, I love bilingual posts, Keep them coming Belochka, Sarushka !
Tatiana+
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[ch1071] [ch1083][ch1102][ch1073][ch1083][ch1102] [ch1076][ch1074][ch1091][ch1103][ch1079][ch1099][ch1095][ch1085][ch1086][ch1077] [ch1090][ch1072][ch1082][ch1078][ch1077]. [ch1042][ch1099] [ch1089][ch1082][ch1072][ch1079][ch1072][ch1083][ch1080] [ch1076][ch1077][ch1088][ch1078][ch1072][ch1090][ch1100] [ch1080][ch1093] [ch1087][ch1086][ch1081][ch1090][ch1080]!
I love them as well. And there's another one for you. You said to keep them coming!
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Link to my new Photo-album, with about 495 pictures of Alexei and his surroundings, not yet in chronological order, but can be downloaded by interested people:
http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j231/Alexei-7/
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Wow...um, Tukker, no offence intended, but that post was more randomly posted than the posts that are posted to deliberately be random! I mean, it's good that you've got those pics, but...post 'em on the Alexei board or something.
:D
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Actually, space aliens are my answer for all of life's difficult questions. 8-) Glad someone agrees. ::)
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Actually, space aliens are my answer for all of life's difficult questions. 8-) Glad someone agrees. ::)
Dude, we all agree...it's to what level we agree to.
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We have a new kitten in our compartment as we continue our journey in space.....
This is how it occurred.
We (myself, my younger son and granddaughter) were visiting my parents, who have a small farm down on earth, this last weekend.
The family helps them when we can, especially, now, since they are in their 80s.
This particular day was to be the planting of the summer garden.
Before my son started to weed-eat the garden, he asked me and his daughter to check for cats and kittens which might have been hidden in the tall grass.... We found four kittens and took them to the house....
My son started to weed-eat....
Myself, my granddaughter and my mother were in the house when we heard these terrible words flying loudly out of my son's mouth. He was still in the garden area outside.
I thought, OH NO, we didn't find one and the kitten has been... Well, I really didn't want to think about what the whipping line of nylon could do to a small kitten.... I ran out and was following my granddaughter who was five steps ahead of me....
In the middle of the garden area my son was standing with a tiny kitten in the palm of his hand. His voice had lowered and he was talking to the tiny kitten....
I didn't see any blood coming from the kitten....
"Daddy..?" is all my granddaughter could ask.
"I step on him!" voiced my son. "Didn't see him." His face showed that he believed he had fatally injured this poor defenseless kitten. "He's squashed."
Quickly I said, "Kittens bodies can take a great deal of abuse..."
"He's squashed," repeated my son who thought he had broken the kitten's back for his rear seemed motionless.
There we were worrying over one little kitten when there were four we had just found in a box and a half dozen in a box next to my folks' house.
For years, people have been dropping off their unwanted cats and kittens in the country and many found their way to the dishes of cat food and milk povided by my elderly parents. They could provide for the first three, the next four, the next ten. There are many mice around barns and hay fields, which need to be caught. But the explosion of mice has given life to a lot more cats whose kittens are surviving in the barns, the fields, hay stacks.... AND, these unknown people have continued to drop off more and more cats and their kittens.... Last count there were twenty cats and many are females who are now having kittens this spring....
My mother has called all kinds of organizations and public services to help her with the cats but everyone who deals with unclaimed cats are unable to take any more because they had been swamped with the same problems. TOO MANY CATS.
Anyway, back to the kitten in my son's hand.
He handed the kitten to me.
My granddaughter, who had already picked out a kitten of the four to take home, voiced, "Looks like fate has chosen this kitten to take home."
"He may be too hurt," was all my son said.
We took the kitten to the house, found a box, got some rags and put him in the box.
The kitten wasn't more than four weeks old.
A short time later, my son came into the house. He was still upset.
Last week while putting in our garden, my son accidentally killed a nest of birds and a snake because the grass in our yard is as high as an elephant’s eye and all God's creatures in our garden area were, also, well hidden in the grass. It had taken the pleasure out of a joyful event for him. And, it was happening, again.
One could see in his face, he was assuming that this kitten wasn't going to live just like the snake and the tiny birds….
Life on the farm quickly teaches us all that life isn't always fair.
My granddaughter said to her father, "Your kitty looks like he's going to be okay, Daddy."
My son didn't have the heart to say what he was thinking which was he didn't think it was possible for the kitten to we "okay".
He said later that he had felt the kitten under his boot and when the cat's shriek in pain he thought he had heard a death cry.
By the end of the afternoon, the kitten seem to be moving alright but it was very difficult to know for sure if the kitten was alright. The kitten was so very tiny and his sibling were not walking very well when we were comparing so we just couldn’t know the damage to this tiny body.
Later that day, the injured kitten in the box was placed in the car next to my granddaughter on the back seat/. My son and I were in the front...
The three of us were not talking very much.
Carship headed for home, music was found and the three humans were quiet, and, soon the kitten grew quiet and was asleep.
I finally asked the other two, my son and my granddaughter, "So what's his name?"
"Squash." my son announced.
Squash has survived five days and started to trot around the kitchen about a days ago. He has a little hitch to his movement but it appears that he'll be fine.
Now, all we have to worry about are the two dogs and our two old cats who are quite positive this new little creature is getting too much attention and out of the four not one would be disappointed if "it" just vanished as quickly as "it" appeared.
I'm sure I'll have a few more stories about Squash as he defines his position in this family.
SQUASH
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g139/AGRBear3/SquashFace1.jpg)
"GOT MILK?"
"Yep"
AGRBear
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Dear Bear,
Squash is so sweet. It's so nice of your parent's to take care of the kittens brought to your area.
I'm glad Squash has found a home, and I know you will all take care of him. Your grandson has such a tender spot for animals which is wonderful that he cares so so much. Thanks for sharing your story. Tell us how is from time to time.
Tatiana+
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I feel so sorry for that kitty! I hope he will be okay.
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I hope little Squash has a great life. It's so sad to hear of people who abandon animals... I suppose I should stop there before I go off on a rant. :-X
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Ah, ranting is good...if a bit off-topic. Granted, this is the Alien Intervention board, so I guess, inversely, that makes it on-topic...
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Update on Squash, the kitten.
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g139/AGRBear3/SquashFace1.jpg)
He's growing by leaps and bounds and is often called "Little Monster" due to his very agressive behavior.
Here is a photo of him as he's falling asleep after playing hard this afternoon.
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g139/AGRBear3/SquashGoingToSleep.jpg)
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Bear!
Thanks so much for the update on Squash. He certainly has grown!
He is really quite a handsome fellow :D
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I have posted these before...but this is my Trotsky, storming the Winter Palace.
He looks suspiciously like a forbearer of Squash...better watch out Bear, there may be an infiltrator in your midst !
](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Markhall/Scan10034-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Markhall/Scan10033-1.jpg)
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Ivan Komarov - you are indeed a genious! That poster and the photo on the roof top are so seemlessly done that you could sell them on Ebay and probably make a fortune! I was laughing so hard that my husband had to come to see what was so funny about old Russian history!
Sir Robert Lord Hall, would you please adopt me? I swooned (in the proper Victorian style) over your book shelves. Alas, you are on the wrong coast.
And just to add to the cat part of this thread, I have seven. One is a Russian Blue. All are shelter cats. We lost our two eldest, Misha and Livadia, Misha was a blue point Siamese and Livadia was a blue and white domestic short hair and yes both came from shelters. Can you imagine? Someone dumped a beautiful and ageing 9 year old Blue point Siamese at the New Haven Animal Shelter. My son and I scooped him up and gave him five more good years. He died in September of 2005.
We think that our Russian Blue is an alien. He has the triangular blue/grey face of the greys and he observes everything and then we see him sitting on the back of the couch meowing up at the ceiling. We think he is reporting to his "mother ship". Being Russian Blue and all, maybe his is communicating with the IF????? ;D ::)
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This is my Samantha. She also appears to be of the same line as Trotsky and Squash. She's got white paws and belly but her father, a stray of unknown origiins, looked exactly liike them! I think DNA tests are in order. No swtiching! :D
(http://www.boomspeed.com/kittylove/samanthasteps.jpg)
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We are involved with the San Francisco SPCA feral cat project. Through that, we are "blessed" with 10 cats.
2 inside house cats- Trotsky & Stalin
3 outside house cats [they actually have their own apartment to come into at night or bad weather] Also, visitors all the time ! They spread the word about the free food.
2 inside shop cats
3 outside shop cats [this number goes up & down a lot]
Some of these are too tame to actually be feral, more likely abandoned or lost. And they come to us in all ages, from tiny kittens to old veterans.
Life here is constantly changing the litter boxes ! [which is an excellent excuse for my jaunts to Europe every 6 months- get away from that chore!]
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I absolutely love all the beautiful kitty pictures on here!
I am a large fan of cats myself and can sympathize with you Robert on cat litter. I have five indoor cats and two outdoor cats that make quite the stink!
I am so happy to hear that you are working with your local SPCA! Kudos for your generosity!
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Well, I originally wanted a chihuahua... The kittens we usually find good homes for, although we are sorely tempted to keep them at times. We ahve nopt ssen a mouse around for decades. Of course any rodent that comes near is definitely on a suicide mission.
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Robert, I watch Animal Planet all the time. Are you involved with the officers who are shown on "Animal Cops - San Francisco."?
My husband doesn't like to watch the rescue programs he says it hurts to see the animals so used and abused, but I get all dopey over the happy endings.
Right here in CT we have had some cases of animal collectors who have in the range of 70 to 140 dogs and cats in their homes with no chance of keeping things clean and safe and normal for either the humans or their pets.
After Hurricane Katrina, my next door neighbor called and asked me if I would go to New Orleans with her to help with the suffering animals. Neither of us ended up going but I admired her trying.
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I am not familiar with Animal Cops. Perhaps my parnter is. We did volunteer to take a few cats from the Katrina disaster, but we were never called for that. Several friends here did, however, take dogs. Some ended up keeping them.
Yes those sad stories about people being iriresonsible with animals happen all over. Even my dear England, animals lovers par excellence, has it's share of them. I was recently following a story concering "retired" race dogs. I did not even realise that "sport" was still legal in some places. In a few years, when we have enough to make a substantial contribution, we would like to help "retired" circus animals. I have a friend who takes in big cats, but she has lots of acerage and neighbours are few and far bewteen.
If I did not travel so much we would have dogs again. But my partner is too busy with the cats and his business to look after them properly. As it is, the cats are a handfull!
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O Bear what an adorable little Squash you have ! Looks like he is enjoying his milk on the kitten pic ! Love the other pic too : one can almost see sleep descending gently upon him.
How lucky of you all to be able to keep so many cats ! Unfortunately I only have [barely] room for my big Tiù and his wild games in my small parisian appartment. Here is how he chases mice :
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/agnessa/th_Tiu.jpg) (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/agnessa/Tiu.jpg)
I (fancy I) managed to transmit him my passion for Beethoven but not the one for history or literature ( :D) and consequently keep my books as far away from him as I can since, being half a rat, he enjoys eating paper immensely ! Half of my history books are in boxes just now waiting for new shelves and it is sometimes difficult to keep him away from the cardboard. No respect for deceased crowned heads from that quarter you see ...
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Robert, you are a WONDERFUL person to take care of all those cats. You are to be saluted. I wish there were more like you. And I'm sorry more shelters aren't like SF, they should be!
I could tell some heartbreaking stories of how PETA claimed to be rescuing cats and dogs in my area, but were actually killing them and dumping their bodies. They even took them from no kill shelters in NC claiming to have found homes for them, but killed them before they even got back to their evil base in Norfolk. They used their alleged 'good' name to get people to trust them, and betrayed us. I am scarred for life knowing I helped them 'rescue' some cats who weren't really saved. The world deserves to know about this evil deception and cruelty, and I will post the llinks. It's heartbreaking :'( And it makes me furious too.
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PETA ? I am shocked !! Perhaps someone claiming to be PETA? Does not sound like them at all. I gave them some of my fur coats some years ago !
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PETA ? I am shocked !! Perhaps someone claiming to be PETA? Does not sound like them at all. I gave them some of my fur coats some years ago !
No it was PETA. I lived in the Norfolk area then. It happeend. I carry a pain in my heart that will never go away that I was among those who helped them round up strays to be 'fostered' and 're-homed' when really they were killing them and throwing them into dumpsters. PETA is so into their anti-meat causes they don't care anything about dogs and cats because they're carnivorous. If you notice they only seem to help animals who only eat grain, like cows and chickens.The worst thing is how they got people to trust and believe they were helping the pets when they had no intentions of doing anything but killing them. They got possession of animals from people, rescue workers, even no kill shelters under false pretenses. The hard tragic truth is here in the links. As much as this hurts me to see it and discuss it, I feel the truth needs to be told. :'(
http://www.nokillnow.com/PETAanimalpeople.htm
http://www.nokillnow.com/PETAIngridNewkirkResign.htm
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Talk about Space Aliens...I am even more in shock! For years I have been donating to Peta and even joined in a few demostrations. I will certainly have to do a serious re-think about that.I can see why they did not want much publicity over this "incident". I know only the San Francisco and London folks. And would never think of them doing sucjh a thing. [well, the UK tribe is a bit radical, so I guess I would not put it past them, BUT they are anti-hunt and do try to protect the fox, which is a predator, or scavenger].
Thank you Annie. Especially for the articles, I will pass this information on.
Oh, and I am NOT a vegan.
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Thank you Robert. Please do pass it on to as many people as possible. This is very upsetting and needs to be known. I wish I could tell Paul McCartney and Chrissie Hynde, and all the other rich celebrities who fund them.
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Here is my lost Livadia. (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/Livadia13/Livadia.jpg)
She was a regal beauty.
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And here is a sleeping Misha with a tiny Kirby cat behind him.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/Livadia13/Misha.jpg)
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(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/Livadia13/Pook.jpg)
And last but not least, the Russian Blue, or Pook as we call him. (His original name was Spooky as in Spooky Fox Mulder). Our alien invader who looks and listens and then sits on the back of the living room couch and meows at the ceiling to report to the "mother ship".
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Very beautiful cats Alix! Yours too, Agneschen! All the cats are just precious, I love them all!
Here's my "Sneak"
(http://www.boomspeed.com/kittylove/sneakdoor.jpg)
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Thanks for sharing the lovely pictures of all your cats Alexz. They are so sweet.
Hope all is well ! Take care.
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My Sneak (pictured above) has had some skin problems this summer and is on medication. She doesn't look as pretty as that cat, and my son is insisting it's not the same cat. I didn't beliieve it, but I found out from a DNA test that while she was at the vet, she was switched with Franziskitty Catkowska, who looked a lot like her and had the same skin disorder! :o Now I'm going to have to find my real one, and hope there are no false claimants to complicate my search! ??? I'm going to need all the luck I can get.
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Way to make this board relate in a comedic relief-kind of way to the rest of the site, Annie!
Not saying that I mind...but how did we get on the subject of cats?
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Cats are the ultimate space aliens. The have secret control of everything. Just as Dr. Who.
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The have secret control of everything.
Amen to that! ;D
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(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/Livadia13/LUCKY.jpg)
And here is my Lucky Cat's answer to all of that!
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Hahaha! Love it AlixZ!
The kitty's expression is priceless!
I have a picture of one of my kitties, I'll go find it and show his cute expression!
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This is Skimmer, he is sort of like Anna Anderson because he was fished out of a swimming pool (at the age of 5 weeks) and almost drowned. No one knew where he came from ... but he never claimed to be royalty... at least not yet ;)! Come to think of it, I did catch him eyeing those Romanov books lately, one time too many ;D.
(http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/3654/skimmeraf1.png)
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Alexz and HelenA,
Great pictures of your cats. The expressions are wonderful. Thanks for your sharing.
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Watch out, Helen. My Trotsky, all grown up and handsome now, but still as ruthless, eats Romanovs, real & imagined !(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Markhall/TrevPaul2005029.jpg)
You saw what he did to their Winter Palace !!!
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Laura,
I can't decide if Lucky is saying, "Oh, pshaw." or "No pictures please." or "Talk to the paw." But I know that he thinks all cats are special and all cats own the world. If any cat knows the where abouts of the Russian alien abductees, it would be Lucky with Pook's Russian translation help, of course.
Helen, I love the 'reclining look". What a beautiful cat!
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Alexz and HelenA,
Great pictures of your cats. The expressions are wonderful. Thanks for your sharing.
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Do you only compliment the cats of those whose posts you agree with? I have noticed you do pick and choose whose cats you say you like in all your posts here. Interesting it seems to coincide with whether or not you like the things the owners say! That really isn't fair, you know! Poor cats!
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(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/Livadia13/LUCKY.jpg)
And here is my Lucky Cat's answer to all of that!
What a prima donna! I bet she's hell to the paparazzi!
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This is Skimmer, he is sort of like Anna Anderson because he was fished out of a swimming pool (at the age of 5 weeks) and almost drowned. No one knew where he came from ... but he never claimed to be royalty... at least not yet ;)! Come to think of it, I did catch him eyeing those Romanov books lately, one time too many ;D.
(http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/3654/skimmeraf1.png)
Aw, I'm so glad you saved his life! He's so sweet and beautiful.Look at how comfy he is, what a good life! Maybe in time his memory of his early life will return and he may just turn out to be royalty after all!
Yes, Robert, Trotsky is looking ferocious these days, he may just stage a coup at any moment!
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Do you only compliment the cats of those whose posts you agree with? I have noticed you do pick and choose whose cats you say you like in all your posts here. Interesting it seems to coincide with whether or not you like the things the owners say! That really isn't fair, you know! Poor cats!
To be fair, Tania never agrees with my posts, but she did complement my cat. But that's probably only because there is a possibility he may be royalty ;).
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Watch out, Helen. My Trotsky, all grown up and handsome now, but still as ruthless, eats Romanovs, real & imagined !
You saw what he did to their Winter Palace !!!
Trotsky has indeed grown into a very handsome chap and it sounds like he is a natural revolutionary! 8)
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I was not kidding- when he was younger [he is 6 now] he chewed up a couple of Rbooks on the Romanovs! Fortunately easily and cheaply replaceable.
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I was not kidding- when he was younger [he is 6 now] he chewed up a couple of Rbooks on the Romanovs! Fortunately easily and cheaply replaceable.
Maybe he thought he was a puppy ;D! Which books were they? (I want to see if I can find a pattern ;))
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He was a real terror there for a while! One book was the Virginia Cowles, which I have several copies of so no big deal. The other was a cheapie on Rasputin, I forget which one but it was easily replaced. He was going after Lost Fortune, but we rescued that in time!
Now he chomps on those kitty grass things, saving the library a lot of stress.
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Do you only compliment the cats of those whose posts you agree with? I have noticed you do pick and choose whose cats you say you like in all your posts here. Interesting it seems to coincide with whether or not you like the things the owners say! That really isn't fair, you know! Poor cats!
To be fair, Tania never agrees with my posts, but she did complement my cat. But that's probably only because there is a possibility he may be royalty ;).
Oh, sorry somehow I read that as Helena just glancing the first time :P I know she always specifically compliments by name other people's cats around my posts but always ignores mine. I guess she either hates me or thinks my cats are ugly :'( It would be nice to just say all the cats are lovely, because they are!
And yes I do suppose the connection between your cat and AA's story may have something to do with it!;)
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He was a real terror there for a while! One book was the Virginia Cowles, which I have several copies of so no big deal. The other was a cheapie on Rasputin, I forget which one but it was easily replaced. He was going after Lost Fortune, but we rescued that in time!
Now he chomps on those kitty grass things, saving the library a lot of stress.
Oh dear! A real Boshie at heart! ;)
I had a dog who used to eat books, I think she was addicted to the smell of the glue in the spines. That was the only part she ate. Luckily they were mostly cheap children's books and nothing valuable or rare, though it was still bad! The worst thing was when I found my then one and a half year old son sitting next to her as she chewed, also gnawing on the spine of a book! :o It was so funny I actually took a picture. Then I became concerned he would get the wrong idea about books and not like to read. I was wrong. He's 19 now and has always been an enthusiastic and excellent reader. He was always in the highest reading group and read the LOTR saga in fourth grade! Last year he came in second place in a James Joyce essay contest and won a complete collection of classics, but they still haven't arrived.
My book eating dog has been gone 10 years now, she lived to be 12. She was Beagle and Siberian Husky. I think she was connected to Rasputin somehow.
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Annie, I think your Sneak is beautiful. And so clean & white!! 2 of our outside cats [Molotov & Beria] are calicoes, but you would never know it- they are always covered in dirt. No sooner do they clean themselves up, they go out and play in the mud by the pond. Hence theyt stay outside. They are also feral rescues. I just retturned from feeding them and despair of ever getting a decent picture of those 2.
I do not know what got Trotsky into tearing up paper. He still does it to newspapers lieing around now and then. He started to get Stalin in on the act when we caught them.
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Thanks! :) What about Samantha? I will post more pics later.
I think your rescue work is great! Some people (like PETA >:() think all ferals should be killed, but people don't realize many of them like their lives! Cats are animals, and while many are perfectly happy inside, others truly do enjoy their life outside, even being wild and running in the brush. They deserve to live too! Thanks for helping them!
Here's a wonderful organization that helps them in VA
http://www.geocities.com/meowerpower_99.geo/
And speaking of dirty calicos, mine crawled into a heater vent once and came out covered in dust. She looked like a different cat, she was so brown! When I first saw her I thought a stray had found its way inside the house! :D
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Sorry I forgot about your Samantha, Annie. Another beauty. Looks rather plotting, like my Trotsky in a way. What is it with Abbyssians?
As for Peta- you do not know what a shock wave you started ! My friends in England, country folk who do NOT support hunting, were big supporters in the fight to save foxes from the dogs are now questioning them about their treatment of feral cats. Normally, feral cats are welcome around farms and even in the cities as they help control vermin.
It is about time for the PETA demonstrations at the big fur sellers fall season- Sax, Neiman's, etc. I will not be here for that but my partner and his friends are going to ask them to explain as well. They certainly will not be getting any donations from us this year, on either side of the Atlantic!
However, cats are here to stay, no one can stop them from their control of the world !!
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Dear HelenA, Robert, and Annie,
I am responding to the three of you since it seems you are in a clique together in advancing your 'remarks' to me personally on a public forum.
I have had four lovely cats in the past and have loved them wholeheartedly as I do all animals. They are wonderful and have educated me in depth about how they are as a species. I am more than glad that I had the chance to have both cats and dogs in my lifetime and would not change their being in my life for one second.
Now as to my picking and choosing where and to whom I respond, it is a natural thing to do, as many on this forum do, and probably there are people as well as subject threads that you choose to join in or not. There is nothing out of the ordinary in that, and nothing for you to make comment on in that regard at all.
I am sure members do not start or have continued to barb you with commentary individually or together in snide remarks, that children love to do because they have excess of time and as they have learned to do when manners no longer seem to be of value....but on these forums, I belive they still are.
Like spammers who looked to be noticed, because they need attention, I see your continued avenue of subtle barbed attacks to be pitied because of your lack of maturity in how you address people, just because their views may be different than yours. On these forums, as individuals, we have every right to express ourselves and our views, within boundries that are acceptable to the FA, and in that we are not rude nor arrogant to any member. Most members here, aggree or agree to disagree, but don't go off on the deep end as you do. To do so shows immaturity imho...
The many pictures of both human beings and animals on this forum, have in many ways reached out to touch my heart, but as your barbed, and childish remarks have been offered in your estimation, "to work with added feature of public scrutiny", they have failed to reach my heart, because you continue to make waves and really reach to find further ways to be hurtful and harmful. While your remakrs have made their connection with me, think again as an adult of how it is received by the many readers, and the lasting impression it makes in their hearts.
You can continue to make a mark of purposeful comment and offer real apology, and insightful disscusion, by not continuing to throw hurtful barbed words at others, or you just leave a lasting impression of your less than favorable comments, and be seen by the members and countless readers as less than adult contributors....
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Hey! What about dogs? I am ruled by a pack of five mini-huskies:
http://www.kingandwilson.com/dogs/
Two of our three cats are in the photos also -- Koshka and the one not pictured (Wasaki) are/were feral kittens that we got from the pound. Neither were entirely inside cats, though Koshka enjoyed her creature comforts! Wasaki always seemed to me to be a bit more of a wild cat than "outside cat" suggests. She was completely devoted to my husband, but had no use for anyone else -- and she always liked a door or window open so she could make her exits. Wasaki died two summers ago, aged about sixteen. Koshka died last December 10th; she was at least thirteen because that's how long we had her. It was sad to lose them, but I'm happy to think we gave them a good home for so long.
Musclebound came to us outside the grocery store. This woman plus kids had a box of kittens when I went into the store -- they offered me one and I said "No thanks! I've got two already." When I came out, there was the box, with baby Musclebound and a brother or sister, left in the bed of my truck. As I stood there looking around for the woman, this guy ran up and asked if I had seen her because he wanted to take a kitten for his girlfriend. I let him take his pick of the two abandoned in my truck, and I took Musclebound home myself. He's huge, he's mellow, and he eats anything -- he's especially fond of rhubarb.
We had locally an experience with an animal "support" group similar to Annie's experience with PETA. I couldn't say if this local group was affiliated in any way with PETA, but it was virtually the same situation. Having spent a good deal of my childhood on my grandparents' Welsh farm, I have never had a problem co-existing with feral cats -- I find that any objection to them does not outweigh their use in terms of controlling the local rodent, bat and lizard population. But maybe that's just me.... :D
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Alexz and HelenA,
Great pictures of your cats. The expressions are wonderful. Thanks for your sharing.
Tatiana+
Do you only compliment the cats of those whose posts you agree with? I have noticed you do pick and choose whose cats you say you like in all your posts here. Interesting it seems to coincide with whether or not you like the things the owners say! That really isn't fair, you know! Poor cats!
I find these two posts more than childish.
Do you only compliment the cats of those whose posts you agree with? I have noticed you do pick and choose whose cats you say you like in all your posts here. Interesting it seems to coincide with whether or not you like the things the owners say! That really isn't fair, you know! Poor cats!
To be fair, Tania never agrees with my posts, but she did complement my cat. But that's probably only because there is a possibility he may be royalty ;).
I find them perfect examples of how humans can be "caty" which is a trait that can be corrected.
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AGRBear
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I must say everyone has such beautiful animals! Post more pictures! ;D
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Penny,
Your dogs, and cat, and horse are beautiful. Their names are quite unusual. How did they come to be named?
Also, how old is your horse. Thank you for sharing the pictures.
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Beautiful pack of bow-wows, Penny. But I bet I can tell who the bosses are in your tribe of fur friends.
We had dogs for many years, including 4 beautiful Great Danes, boy, could they EAT ! They all lived long and healthy lives, the last, a wonderful Shelty, diied peacefully at 18 years old in 1988. All were also rescue dogs. They Danes being "runts" and due to be put down. And they all got along very nicely with the cats ! Now it is just cats And a backyard fishpond.
I would love to have a chihuahua now, but travel too much to look after it properly.
The only objection to cats I ever hear in Britain is from bird lovers- they say the felines are reducing the songbird population. That argument is countered by the fact that other ferals are more responsible as well as the more agressive birds- nest raiders. So, you are not alone in thinking they are welcome, for the most part. We are actually in the process of rehabing the village pond and restocking it with ducks and, if we can affford it, swans. Little Beds. village goes posh with swans !
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Tania wrote:
Like spammers who looked to be noticed, because they need attention, I see your continued avenue of subtle barbed attacks to be pitied because of your lack of maturity in how you address people, just because their views may be different than yours.
Intersting.This is exactly how I see your posts, subtly putting one down by overpraising another, making a 'political statement.' And your rants never make any sense. Sorry.
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Sorry I forgot about your Samantha, Annie. Another beauty. Looks rather plotting, like my Trotsky in a way. What is it with Abbyssians?
Yes they do look related, and so does bear's cat. I want a DNA test!
As for Peta- you do not know what a shock wave you started ! My friends in England, country folk who do NOT support hunting, were big supporters in the fight to save foxes from the dogs are now questioning them about their treatment of feral cats. Normally, feral cats are welcome around farms and even in the cities as they help control vermin.
It is about time for the PETA demonstrations at the big fur sellers fall season- Sax, Neiman's, etc. I will not be here for that but my partner and his friends are going to ask them to explain as well. They certainly will not be getting any donations from us this year, on either side of the Atlantic!
Thank you Robert, you're great! I'm glad you're letting people know the awful truth.
It seems PETA doesn't care if some animal die, they just complain about some of the methods used. For example, they may not want the foxes killed by dogs, but they wouldn't mind 'putting down' a fox.They make a big deal of rounding up hunting dogs as the end of the season, then kill them their own way (and remember they use improper dosages of the lethal injection) They are just murderers, and I can't understand their rationale. It's actually very sick. The ones in England need to know about what happened at the US headquarters. I feel like a family member of a murder victim, I can't save the poor precious cats I gave them when I didn't know better, and their trusting faces haunt me all the time. I am honestly scarred for life by the experience. I can't explain how deeply emotionally damaged I am by their cruel actions and lies. >:( :'(
However, cats are here to stay, no one can stop them from their control of the world !!
I hope so! A cat revolution, let them take over, we'll be better off!
And EVERYONE'S pics are lovely and all the pets are beautiful and special! :-*
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Well, it seems like no matter what our differences and disagreements have been in other things, what we all certainly seem to have in common is love for animals!
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Yes, Helen That is thankfully pretty universal here, is it not?
I think we are adopting another feral litter- whilst I am away- but Randy does not know that I know what he is up to ! Fortunately, once they are old enough, and fixed, and have their shots they can join the others up on the hill where his Antique Mall is. They will always have plenty of food, safe and away from the busy streets, warm shelter. A right kitty resort he runs. Some, while still young & cute even get adopted ! You should see the act they put on when the store opens- they all come running down for their breakfast- just like in the cat food commercials, lined up perfectly. Same in the evening when the place closes- for dinner.
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That's so cute! When they're still young you can tame them to be house cats. It's hard to believe now but my Samantha was from a kind of feral litter. Her father was the neighborhood stray, and the mother was an abandoned pet who had gone wild and lost her trust of humans. She was known as "Ma" in the neighborhood. She was wandering skinny and hungry one night I was out for a walk, and she finally came to me in desperation. She let me pick her up adn I took her home and fed her.She purred, and came back every day. I knew she'd been pregnant but thought the kittens had died. I went on a long vacation and paid my neighbor to feed her. When I came back, there was a very playful litter of kitties living in my shed! Ma's kittens were alive, and she brought them to me!
From there the story takes on a happy and sad twist. We took in Samantha and a sister of hers, (they were too wild to pick up, my daughter caught them in a ca carrier with a string on the door and pulled it closed.) and we kept them. Samantha became a very tame little lady but her ssiter Ratch was always touchy, even inside. Sadly, Ratch was shot by one of my mean redneck neighbors, though there was no 'proof' I iknow he did it. :'( Samantha had kittens by my tomcat Bambi, and the cats I have today are among their descendants.
Very sadly, Ma and the other kittens (grown up the next year) ended up with PETA. This is why I am so heartbroken. I Knew them, I loved them, and I fell for the lies and promises of 'foster homes' and good homes when nothing awaited but certain death. They were living under my neighbor's house at that time, and the PETA worker used the trust the cats had for my friend to get them to come to her (she would have kept them but the neighbors kept callling the pound in them, and the lady felt PETA was better than the pound, she was wrong. At least the pound gives them a few days to find a home, not immediate death like PETA) I get so mad and sad every time I think of how that elderly lady and I helped the PETA worker round up the cats for their trip to a facilitiy in the country that never existed, and homes that were never there. We were duped into sending some very intelligent, beaiutiful cats to their doom by a lying, evil woman who only wanted to kill them. It hurts and haunts me forever. :'( Sometimes the only way I can even deal with it is to somehow compare them to OTMAA, taken way too soon and unfairly by someone who killed them lied about it. But even that doesn't help much.
When I look at Samantha, I think how lucky she is to be alive, and each of her descendants are a link to Ma and the wild past. I tell them about it, silly asa that may seem, I tell them about all of their ancestors and what special kitties they were. If I Can hold these now, I'd like to think I did a little bit of good to save them. :'(
My Bambi disappeared the same day PETA took the others. I didn't give him up but I tihnk she took him while I was inside. See, their tactic was to put them in a 'humane trap' and cover them with a towel. I know now this is because they didn't want to see their little faces knowing they were going to kill them. They called the rounding up of animals 'Community Animal Project' and acted as if they were a legiitmate resecue organiization. It was a lie. They knew if they told us the truth, we wouoln't help them find animals.
Stray lived to a ripe old age. I'd see him once eer so often, sometimes crossing the road a mile from my home. He would lay around my place for dasys, or sometime just come for dinner and go, then, nothing for weeks, even months, But the old vagabond always turned back up. For nine years he did this (grown when he frist started coming, I don't know how old he was by then) Then one October day, he showed up looking especially old, ragged and fragile. He tried to get inside- something he had NEVER done- but the other cats didn't accept this so I thought it best not to start a fight and left him on the porch. Samantha always remembered him as her Daddy, and they rubbed noses and nuzzled. He lay around a few days, on the porch, on my car. I was worried the mean neighbor would get him. Then one night, he ate his dinner and walked around the curved bend in the road just around dusk, as he always did. Only this time I never saw him again. Somewhere out there, he found rest and peace, and I hope, is with all the others now.
Okay I'm crying, I'll stop now.
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Oh, Annie, how heartbreaking. You have me teared up as well !
Fortunately, here, we have a no-kill SPCA and the Animal Control of SF is pretty decent as well- turning over to SPCA whatever they can take. At first I thought we were going to overwhelmed with cats, but they do seem to know their way around. Some dissapear for a few days, come back then travel on again. Some just stay put- they know where their next meal is ! My partner has most of the neighbours in on the feral project and it is a proven success. Sadly, as always, there is one spoilsport who does not co-operate and twice a year new litters to take care of- which he leaves everyone else to do. So far, after 6 years of almost full participation, we have lost only 2 or 3 cats. And those were uncurable medical conditions. It was more humane to put them asleep than let them suffer.
I know what you mean about the kitty genealogy- Randy knows who is which's litter mate, father [the rogues] mothers [the tramps] and uncles and aunts, grandparents, etc.. We love them all !
BUT- try to get him to remember Romanov genealogy ? Forget it !
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I'm sincerely sorry Annie that your beloved cats were killed the way they were. For me to hear an animal is harmed, tortured, or killed, it is upsetting to me as well. When one has gathered ones trust, only to have their trust betrayed it is a very difficult emotion to get a hold of. Betrayal of anyone, anything, is cruel and unwarrented. In your case, it left more than a family upset and with difficulty to trust people and community agencies such as PETA ever again.
I am happy to see that you do have the remainder of cats to have given you some happiness, and understanding that they were able to escape the haunting undrerstanding that the others went through. Thank you for sharing your story. I know it will be an alert for many others who would want to adopt pets, and or who might be approached by PETA. I hope in time you will be able to less upset from this terrible situation of your pets, etc. I know you won't forget, but i do hope the hurt will be lesser.
Tatiana+
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Now, to lighten things up a bit- Trotsky even made it on a Bulgarian post card & stamp ! Although I have a feeling it may not have been the Trotsky they had in mind...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Markhall/Alex-22.jpg)
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Now, to lighten things up a bit- Trotsky even made it on a Bulgarian post card & stamp ! Although I have a feeling it may not have been the Trotsky they had in mind...
That's great!
I think there are enough cat stamps out there, that every cat owner can claim his/her own :)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/helenazar/catstamps.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/helenazar/catstamps2.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/helenazar/catstamps3.jpg)
This one even looks like it's of a cat that went into space! (which of course brings us back to our original topic of space aliens, sort of ;D).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/helenazar/catastronautstamps.jpg)
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What did I say ? CATS rule the world. They have control over EVERYTHING, even post !!
Actually, I think the animal kingdom has spades over us, too sad that we abuse and ignore them so much. They have so much to say. If we would only listen just a bit more...
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Considering all the bad things that happen when humans run the world, let's give the cats a chance!
Those are beautiful!
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(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/Livadia13/02.jpg)
And they truly are aliens, as this picture of Sahara, my Lynx Point Siamese clearly shows.
(Her bue eyes need a red reduction, but she certainly looks alien-like)
My son calls this picture "Sahara Smile"
We adopted her from the Ct Humane Society which is a "no kill" shelter when she was two.
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(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/Livadia13/Sahara.jpg)
But here she is pretending to be just another "normal" cat. Just slightly irritated at having been "caught" with her "alien vision" in the above pic.
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She is beautiful and certainly from the "Outer Limits"
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Absolutely love the kitty pictures!!
It's nice to know a majority of us are pet lovers!
Here are a few of my sweethearts:
This is Oscar, he's trying to reach out and touch someone... :D
(http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9792/picture023yq4.th.jpg) (http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9792/picture023yq4.jpg)
Oscar is a very "in your face" kind of man:
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4113/picture026mh4.th.jpg) (http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4113/picture026mh4.jpg)
As you can tell, I like to take pictures of Oscar!
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4029/picture137te1.th.jpg) (http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4029/picture137te1.jpg)
And this is my old cat Spikes... He's 14 and has an attitiude...as you can tell..
(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1606/picture176yu0.th.jpg) (http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1606/picture176yu0.jpg)
Spikes was found at the humane society when I was kid, and Oscar (along with his sister) were found on the side of the road. But there is a long and sad story that goes along with that one.
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Hey! What about dogs? I am ruled by a pack of five mini-huskies:
http://www.kingandwilson.com/dogs/
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A few dogs have been shown. Start on page
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php/topic,5791.165.html
where I posted my two, one Irish Setter and a Golden Retriever
and there are others which follow.
Love your dogs and your horse is absolutely beautiful.
AGRBear
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Have you ever wondered how a cat always gets fish for his dinner without ever getting his feet wet?
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I do not know about yours, Bear, but mine simply order me to open the tin for them. Works every time. Also, Trotsky seems to like water- he joins at the shower edge- a spooky experience to say the least, and he loves playing in the dishwater- bubbles! And outside they all love the fishpond- watching it. Never go after the fish, which they could not get to anyway as it is too deep and the fish stay well away from the edges and surface when the cats are surveying.
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All of our animals have us well trained. And, in case you haven't noticed, they learn our language, but we never learn theirs.
They learn to understand certain words we use with them, but when they come to us and meow, we have no idea if they are saying, "I love you", or "Get off your butt and clean the cat box!"
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Yeah, I often wonder what the 3am howl is all about..then remember we run on BBC time here. Spoiled little critters...
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My kit kat has a language that I understand completely! He has trained me to the 'nth' degree.
When he sits beside his litter box and cries, only an idiot would not know what he means.
Even Robert's kit kat is some sort of a genius.
My kit kat is a Russian Black, the type you see in St. Petersburg, Russia. He's 18 years old and as strong as a tiger. He loves to play Hide-and-Seek at night.
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I just found some kitten pictures of Skimmer, he is about 6-7 weeks here, so this was 4 years ago. I had forgotten how cute he was!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/helenazar/babyskimmy001.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/helenazar/babyskimmy006.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/helenazar/babyskimmy005.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/helenazar/skimmy.jpg)
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Just beautiful! They are so cute when they are small. And look at all of us cat lovers. We turned a perfectly good Alien Intervention thread into a cat "fest".
All seven of ours from age 5 months to seven years are a joy. I would be lonely without a cat in the house.
Someone once said that "The cat is the soul of the house" I am going to have to look it up and find out who. I saw it on a calendar, I think.
;)
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I just couldn't resist posting our newest "space alien". Her name is Layla and we got her from the Rose Hope Animal Shelter here in CT.
She is our five month old. She has the softest fur I have evn felt on a domestic short hair. She is full of life and runs around "nipping" at the back legs of the older cats. They all put up with her except our "Queen" Noel. (Noel doesn't put up with anyone.)
One could say that our little ones are "devoted to each other".
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Lovely picture, Alixz. Layla looks to be a beauty !
here are my Beria & Molotov plotting...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Markhall/sp12036.jpg)
and Stalin & Trostky counter-plotting
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Markhall/Cats005.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Markhall/TrevPaul2005029.jpg)Trotsky,
Squash thinks Layla
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/Livadia13/08.jpg)
is a real good looking Tab'.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Markhall/TrevPaul2005029.jpg)
Trotsky,
Squash thinks Layla
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/Livadia13/08.jpg)
is a real good looking Tab'.
What do you think Samantha?
(http://www.boomspeed.com/kittylove/samanthasteps.jpg)
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Makes me wish I had a family that wasn't allergic to cats...otherwise I'd have one. He'd probably be a violent little bugger, too.
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Not to take away from the "cat fest"...but prepare thyselves for another parodical Photoshop masterpiece from the one and only Ivan Komarov! Soon, yes. Soon...
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YESSSS!!
My whole family, including me, is allergic to cats. Looking at your pictures, I wish we weren't! Although they would totally beat up my poor dog.
Ms. Wilson: your dogs are gorgeous!! I live in a tiny house and I'm allergic to big dogs, but aren't they great? They look like both a lot of fun and a lot of work! It's awesome that you have a horse, too, I love horses but I'm allergic to the mix of horses and hay so I can't spend a lot of time in a barn with horses or anything.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Markhall/TrevPaul2005029.jpg)
Trotsky,
Squash thinks Layla
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/Livadia13/08.jpg)
is a real good looking Tab'.
What do you think Samantha?
(http://www.boomspeed.com/kittylove/samanthasteps.jpg)
Samantha says she thinks all the tabbies are beautiful, and would love to dine with Trotsky and Squash one day on crystal dishes at the Alexander Palace.
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Samantha says she thinks all the tabbies are beautiful, and would love to dine with Trotsky and Squash one day on crystal dishes at the Alexander Palace.
Squash is a farm boy who was taken to an estate where his duties are catching mice and rats, therefore, lacks proper indoor house manners. He drinks water in the toilet. So, before he meets you and Trotsky in a palace, he'll need instruction. Do you have anyone in mind who'd help this farm boy about forks, spoons and crystal dishes? Oh, almost forgot, he'll need lanuage lessons. He does not understand Russian. Although I do believe he knows one word, "Meow."
AGRBear
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Trotsky would love to join- he likes palaces. Besides, he has really been annoyed with Stalin lately, so I am told.
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Samantha may be classy now but she was born a poor kitten to a stray and streetsmart Ma cat. They taught her the ways to survive in the wild, but unlike her siblings she always seemed more fancy like she was above them and just by the way she sat I could tell she was special. We used to call her Beautiful Stray Jr. because she looked like her dad, but something was so elegant about her, even under the shed. My daughter caught her and brought her inside, and since then she has been pure high class. She knows her fine crystal from the cheap dollar tree glasses, and she can tell the others what is proper! Should be a fine kittycat's party! (anybody remember that song?)
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Squash voiced that he'd like to attend the party.
Will it just be just us or can make this party open to all cats who's caretakers post on this forum?
AGRBear
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ALL cats welcome! We'll have to ask them if we caretakers are welcome too.
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If there is no objection, all seven of my cats would like to join in.
"Grand Duchess" Noel (Never ask her if she is truly a "princess". She has read The Last Grand Duchess by Vorres and she is fond of quoting Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna. "I am not a princess, I am a Russian Grand Duchess!"
Summer (snow shoe Siamese) quiet and shy
Sahara (Lynx point Siamese) round - like an armadillo with a lynx tail.
Layla (The above pictured tab')
Lucky Star a mackeral orange tabby (the one with the "talk to the paw" picture)
Pook Russian Blue alien
Kirby buff tiger with white paws and a white bib (He is always ready to party down. He keeps his bib on just to be ready!) I guess he is a buff colored tuxedo cat.
Some are "party trained" with "very good" manners and others a bit rowdy. However Grand Duchess Noel keeps them all in line and on their toes. Just one "hiss" and they back respectfully away.
I have asked them if "caretakers" are invited and most agree that is would be wonderful to meet others who are "owned" by cats.
Grand Duchess Noel simply sniffed and turned away. We all live here on her sufference and so she feels that no answer is needed.
Since I can't keep Layla off the dining room table lately, I think she is practicing her silverware technique.
They do insist though, that a fine menu of fish and fowl and, of course, cream would be a place to start.
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I think my use of the word "caretakers" may be misunderstood in translation. There is a need of a better word for those of us who provide home and food to these independent characters we've labeled as CATS. I am drawing a blank in this wooly brain of mine. Suggestions please.
AGRBear
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(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g139/AGRBear3/SquaashThrone.jpg)
What do you mean I have to learn manners and how to eat out of crystal dishes?
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Aye Bear, as far as most of us members know, Bob says that ALL are welcome on all his threads ! :D
I have a fine cat to offer for view, but can't seem to get it on the screen.
Yours looks fine and proper, and to heck with them crystal dishes...
Darn, that's sure a deep well there isn't it ?
Tatiana+
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Bear,
Squash and my Layla look like litter mates! Such beautiful swirls! I just love mackeral tabbys. Is Squash grey and black? Layla is tan and black. I had never seen a tan and back mackeral tabby before we adopted her.
I have a photo of "Grand Duchess" Noel drinking out of the bathroom vanity sink. I'll post it as soon as I can.
And we thought she would keep the others in line...... :D
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I think my use of the word "caretakers" may be misunderstood in translation. There is a need of a better word for those of us who provide home and food to these independent characters we've labeled as CATS. I am drawing a blank in this wooly brain of mine. Suggestions please.
AGRBear
Servants? ;) ;D
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I believe for both domisticated pets, as well as those in the wild, the following terms have been used :
animal supporter; champion[ing] for animals; advocate[ing] for animals; and or animal sponsor
in each of the above 'care' is already understood.
There is also the word, defender of, for, the defenseless...
Tatiana+
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Ah, yes. They do have us well trained. My group simply calls the humans in our house "the staff".
They have taught us to fetch when they call. To open doors when they cry. And of course, I have been brought the empty food dish on occasion.
And when they lose something like a toy mouse, it is imperative that one of "the staff" helps to find it immediately.
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Wow, some of this thread sounds right out of the X-Files!
Scully: What is this new theory of yours, Mulder?
Mulder: Well, Scully, I have proof that the Russian Imperial Family did not die in 1918, but they were saved by aliens and taken to another planet.
Scully: Right, and I suppose these same aliens also took Judge Crater, Amelia Earhart, Jimmy Hoffa, and Elvis Presley!
Mulder: Well, Scully, since you mention it...
Scully: (rolls eyes and wonders if it's time to get a new partner)
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Na, Scully would say "Mulder, I need proof. In our first movie I was thrown in a spaceship and you had to rescue me just before it flew over head, but that's NOT DEFINITIVE so don't use that against me. Oh yeah and in season two I went missing for a few days, but that had NOTHING to do with aliens even though I clearly remember some of it. So what IN THE WORLD makes you think aliens took the Romanovs? How do you know they even exist?" Mulder: *facepalm*
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Of course, the Doctor could have appeared and piled them all into the TARDIS. He would have the room.
Since some of this thread mentioned cats, I too have a cat. Her name is Trilly, and she's a tortoiseshell.