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Title: Torino Olimpic
Post by: hikaru on February 05, 2006, 11:16:34 AM
I know that everybody will support the sportsmen of Your country, but I would like to ask kindly support (moral support, of course, if you have no special sportsmen to support)
my best friends - russian olimpic figure scating team -
Irina Slutskaya, Maxim Marinin and Tatiana Totymyanina,
Tanya Navka and Roma Kostomarov and Evgeny Plyuschenko.
Olimpic games are most complicated championship and moral support of every person will be priceless.
Thank you very much in advance
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Katia on February 05, 2006, 12:09:33 PM
I will wish them all the best at the olympics, in fact most of those skaters/teams you mentioned are my big favorites, too! Go Russian figure skaters! Wheeeee!!
Katia
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lanie on February 11, 2006, 03:55:08 AM
Go Sasha Cohen!  Beat Irina Slutskaya!  Go Evgeny Plushenko!

And my ice dance favorites: GO SCOTLAND!  John and Sinead Kerr, woohoo!  TOP 10 FINISH FROM YOU GUYS!

Um.  Yes.  The Opening Ceremonies were great.  Disco fun for everyone!  Ireland coming in on 'Funky Town' just made my day. :)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: marina on February 11, 2006, 06:12:16 AM
  1- Brian Joubert (go France!)
 2-Evgueni Plushenko
 3- I don't care!
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Margarita Markovna on February 11, 2006, 09:40:15 AM
Sasha Cohen, and other than that I don't even know who is competing (like for skiing, which usually I follow).  :-[
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: gleb on February 11, 2006, 01:18:51 PM
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The Opening Ceremonies were great.  Disco fun for everyone!  Ireland coming in on 'Funky Town' just made my day. :)


Thanks! "We" did our best to make a great show. :)

Gleb from Turin
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Agneschen on February 11, 2006, 04:47:29 PM
As a F1 lover and great supporter of Ferrari I must say that Ferrari car on ice I have simply LOVED !!!   Same for Pavarotti singing the Nessun dorma (this tune is one of my favourites, I am always singing it). :D
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: hikaru on February 12, 2006, 01:10:01 AM
Opening Ceremony was great!!!
Thank you Italy.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: imperial angel on February 13, 2006, 10:47:12 AM
As a huge figure skating fan, I love the Olympics.. Anyway, I think Irina Slutskaya should win, she has been through so much, tried so hard, and is just a great skater both artistically, and technically! I enjoy watching every skater though ( and not just at the Olympics either.. So Irina for gold! :)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: grandduchessella on February 13, 2006, 04:46:45 PM
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I know that everybody will support the sportsmen of Your country, but I would like to ask kindly support (moral support, of course, if you have no special sportsmen to support)
my best friends - russian olimpic figure scating team -
Irina Slutskaya, Maxim Marinin and Tatiana Totymyanina,
Tanya Navka and Roma Kostomarov and Evgeny Plyuschenko.
Olimpic games are most complicated championship and moral support of every person will be priceless.
Thank you very much in advance


Since they are your friends, I'll certainly wish them well. And if we are totally out of medal contention I'll actively root them on.  :) Fabulous to even make it to the Olympics.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lucien on February 14, 2006, 06:04:45 AM
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I know that everybody will support the sportsmen of Your country, but I would like to ask kindly support (moral support, of course, if you have no special sportsmen to support)
my best friends - russian olimpic figure scating team -
Irina Slutskaya, Maxim Marinin and Tatiana Totymyanina,
Tanya Navka and Roma Kostomarov and Evgeny Plyuschenko.
Olimpic games are most complicated championship and moral support of every person will be priceless.
Thank you very much in advance


And what a wonderfull sight it was,Marinin / Totymyanina,Gold Medals!It was beauty in motion.Allthough I must admit the chinese Zhang/Zhang couple was brilliant as well,dispite their "little accident"(that must have hurt!)a well deserved Silver Medal.
http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/OlympicGames/photogallery/gallery_103_1.html

and "just a random pic" of supporters,last sunday during another Olympic event......
http://members3.boardhost.com/Oranjes/msg/1139774681.html

and yesterday,Joey "Cheeky" Cheek after a formidable 500 meters speed skating,Gold!
http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/OlympicGames/photogallery/gallery_103_9.html
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: ZarevnaOlga on February 14, 2006, 06:56:08 AM
I am for Sascha Cohen, because she is so cute. Her Mother is from Ukraine, isn´t she? Sascha is really Alexandra and she has a very slavish round face like me ;D

I saw she live in Dortmund by World Championsship. She dancing Swan Lake and won silver!
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: ZarevnaOlga on February 14, 2006, 07:04:11 AM
And there some Imressions!

I like it, when she did this!!!
(http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8066/22rr1.th.jpg) (http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=22rr1.jpg)

Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: ZarevnaOlga on February 14, 2006, 07:05:06 AM
(http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6634/81zp.th.jpg) (http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=81zp.jpg)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: ZarevnaOlga on February 14, 2006, 07:05:59 AM
(http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/614/45tt.th.jpg) (http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=45tt.jpg)

(http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1057/62co.th.jpg) (http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=62co.jpg)

What do you mean, isn`t she sweet? Oh yes, she is!
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: palimpsest on February 14, 2006, 09:31:01 AM
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Gold medalist Russia's Maxim Marinin carries his partner Tatiana Totmianin during their routine in the Pairs figure skating finals at the Turin 2006 Winter Olympic Games in Turin, Italy, Monday, Feb. 13, 2006. (AP Photo/Kevork Djansezian)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: palimpsest on February 14, 2006, 09:32:15 AM
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From left, China's silver medalists Zhang Dan and partner Zhang Hao, Russia's gold medalists Tatiana Totmianina and Maxim Marinin, Chinese bronze medalists Shen Xue and Zhao Hongbo pose with their medals following the Pairs Figure Skating final in Turin, Italy during the Winter Olympic Games on Monday, Feb. 13, 2006. (AP Photo/Amy Sancetta)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: palimpsest on February 14, 2006, 09:33:19 AM
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Gold medalist Russia's Maxim Marinin and his partner Tatiana Totmianin wave to spectators following their routine in the Pairs figure skating finals at the Turin 2006 Winter Olympic Games in Turin, Italy, Monday, Feb. 13, 2006. (AP Photo/Kevork Djansezian)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: palimpsest on February 14, 2006, 09:34:45 AM
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Russia's Maxim Marinin, left, and his partner Tatiana Totmianina wave to their compatriots in the stands after they won the gold medal in the Pairs Skating final in Turin, Italy during the Winter Olympic Games on Monday, Feb. 13, 2006. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: palimpsest on February 14, 2006, 09:36:03 AM
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Russia's Maxim Marinin, right, and partner Tatiana Totmianina perform their gold-medal winning routine in the Pairs figure skating finals at the Turin 2006 Winter Olympic Games in Turin, Italy, Monday, Feb. 13, 2006. (AP Photo/Mark Baker)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: palimpsest on February 14, 2006, 09:37:14 AM
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Russia's Maxim Marinin kisses his partner Tatiana Totmianina's hand following their routine in the Pairs figure skating finals at the Turin 2006 Winter Olympic Games in Turin, Italy, Monday, Feb. 13, 2006. (AP Photo/Mark Baker)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: palimpsest on February 14, 2006, 09:39:16 AM
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Maria Petrova, top, and Alexei Tikhonov, of Russia, perform their routine in the Pairs Skating final in Turin, Italy during the Winter Olympic Games on Monday, Feb. 13, 2006. (AP Photo/Mark Baker)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: palimpsest on February 14, 2006, 09:41:20 AM
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Maria Petrova, left, and Alexei Tikhonov, of Russia, react after finishing their routine in the Pairs Skating final in Turin, Italy during the Winter Olympic Games on Monday, Feb. 13, 2006. (AP Photo/Mark Baker)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: palimpsest on February 14, 2006, 09:46:06 AM
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Evgeni Plushenko, of Russia, skates during practice for the Men's Short program in Turin, Italy during the Winter Olympic Games on Monday, Feb. 13, 2006. (AP Photo/)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: imperial angel on February 14, 2006, 10:04:57 AM
Thanks for all the figure skating photos! ;D
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: palimpsest on February 14, 2006, 10:12:22 AM
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Russia's figure skater Evgeni Plushenko practices his jumps during a training session at the Turin 2006 Winter Olympic Games in Turin, Italy, Sunday, Feb. 12, 2006. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Joy0318 on February 14, 2006, 10:19:20 AM
I love the Winter Olympics and figure skating is my favorite.

Congratulations to the winners Tatiana and Maxim.  Their performance was beautiful and a well-deserved win.

And for  the Chinese pair come back out and compete after she had that terrible fall took a lot of courage. I'm glad they held on  to take the silver medal.

Thanks for posting all those pics, palimpsest.


Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Katia on February 14, 2006, 10:50:47 AM
Thankyou for those photos! And congrats to Tatiana & Maxim!! Perfect skate!
Good luck for Jevgeni tonight!!!
Katia
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: grandduchessella on February 14, 2006, 02:44:31 PM
A link to the AOL story on the win:

http://articles.news.aol.com/sportsevent/article.adp?id=20060213170109990028

I'd also like to say congratulations to US skaters Rena Inoue and John Baldwin wound up seventh, one spot down from their short program standing but the best full-field international finish for a U.S. pair since the 2002 worlds. Inoue, even at her young age, is a lung cancer survivor. To make a comeback from such a dreadful illness and come to the Olympics and do so well (esp landing that  throw triple axel to make Olympic history in the short program) is a huge feat.

Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: ZarevnaOlga on February 15, 2006, 02:31:28 AM
Oh! I cant waiting for Ladies Skating! There are to much days until this!!!

Zhenja Plushenko was the best in short programm! I think they can give them the gold now bevor he dance his free programm ;D. Its great when someone is so good! But on the other site its borring now for the free programm, because we knew who will win!

Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: marina on February 16, 2006, 04:42:49 PM
Figure skating men:
1-E.Plushenko
2-S.Lambiel
3-Jeffrey Buttle

Well, no surprises except for the third and Brian Joubert who is 6.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Alixz on February 17, 2006, 12:22:12 AM
Zhang and Zhang!  Her fall stopped hearts all through the arena.

Her return to the ice and follow through to win silver was the most amazing thing I have ever seen!

I had tears in my eyes.  I hope she heals well and fast.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: hikaru on February 17, 2006, 12:53:04 AM
Really, I hoped that Evan Lisachek would be the third :(
He was brilliant at free programme.
Evgeny is a great sportsman.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Katia on February 17, 2006, 06:31:04 AM
Yes, congrats to Evgeny!!! Very happy for the gold medal!
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: imperial angel on February 17, 2006, 11:32:35 AM
Zhang and Zhang's bravery astounded me. She really showed olympic spirit, you have to admire her for that. I hope Irina S. of Russia wins the ladies event, she too has really been through alot.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Joy0318 on February 17, 2006, 12:34:44 PM
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Really, I hoped that Evan Lisachek would be the third :(
He was brilliant at free programme.



I was really hoping he would make it onto the podium too. His free skate was awesome. If only he hadn't had such a terrible time in the short program.

And congrats to Yevgeny on winning the gold. He really did skate the best.

Next up ice dancing.  I'm hoping the USA team of Belbin and Agosto does very well.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Annie on February 18, 2006, 10:44:55 AM
Congratulations to Yvgeny Plushenko!  :D

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Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lanie on February 19, 2006, 12:26:10 AM
The ice dance competition started yesterday.  Shocking compulsory dance finish with the Italians Fusar-Poli and Margaglio in first.  IMO they're not good--she drags him around like a bag of cement.

Sinead and John Kerr are on their way for a top 10 finish!  YOU GO GUYS!  *waves St Andrews flag*

Ladies skating starts Tuesday.  Irina S will win, of course, even if she messes up big time.  That's skating for ya.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: marina on February 19, 2006, 06:04:04 AM
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Is it his girlfriend?
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Katia on February 19, 2006, 06:49:10 AM
His wife, Maria, I presume...  ;)
Katia
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: hikaru on February 19, 2006, 06:52:07 AM
Yes, it is his wife Masha. ( nickname for Maria)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Katia on February 19, 2006, 06:55:22 AM
I really enjoyed all the US men's performances! What a pity that Johnny dropped from the podium...  :'( Too bad the other two (Evan, Matthew) were so far behind after the short program. Can somebody tell if they have Russian/East European ancestors? I think Matt's mother is from Ukraine, right? Evan Lysacek's name sounds a bit East European, too! - Evgeny really deserved his gold medal. Good for him!!  :D
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: grandduchessella on February 19, 2006, 04:27:13 PM
Johnny Weir was such a whiner. It was embarrassing for the US to have such a petulant display--not to mention blaming everything but his own self for his problems. And maybe not dressing like Bjork will help out in the future.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lanie on February 19, 2006, 05:56:24 PM
Evan is an Orthodox Christian... I think his parents are Slavic or something like that!

Matt Savoie I don't know but he is the most beautiful amazing skater.  I love him lots.  He does not get the credit he deserves for his solid, pure skating.  :(

Johnny is, IMO, kind of a shame. Good talent. Talks too much. And wearing a USSR sweater at Olympic practices? Oy.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: hikaru on February 19, 2006, 11:51:38 PM
Johnny is of russian origin, as well as Sacsha Cohen.
Johny is charming. Do not think of him as of a strong man.
It would be a mistake.
He is super talanted. I am sure.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lanie on February 19, 2006, 11:56:06 PM
Johnny Weir is actually not Russian - he just fancies himself to be enamored with Russian history, etc.  He once called Anastasia "the tsar" and said how interesting it would be to talk to her because she survived.  ::)

Sasha Cohen's mother is from Ukraine - Odessa.

I'm delighted NBC showed the Kerrs.  Such talent - and working with Christopher Dean!  I hope their free dance it shown; it's so enjoyable and fun!
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: hikaru on February 20, 2006, 12:02:04 AM
If he is not russian, why he could speak russian , as real russian?
I like Kerrs too.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lanie on February 20, 2006, 01:10:29 AM
Johnny's programs were created by Tatiana Tarasova - he visits her over the summers in Connecticut and has picked up Russian from her, and probably Sasha Cohen too who he's good friends with who speaks very good Russian. :)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Katia on February 20, 2006, 01:45:54 AM
Surfing around, I found that Evan's mother is called Marina, and Matthew's mother is Tanya (hope it's the right info), it doesn't prove anything of course, but their names sound Russian. Evan's family name sounds Chech/Slovakian, but could of course be from some other East European country.

Talking about Johnny, I really like his skating. I don't know why he seems to be so disliked in his home country (but I don't read the American press, either). Anyway, I don't care so much about what the skaters talk, if they are talented & skate beautifully...  ;)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: hikaru on February 20, 2006, 06:55:39 AM
It is impossible to learn russian only during the trainings 8)
Tatiana Tarassova now left America and returned to Moscow forever.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: grandduchessella on February 20, 2006, 01:54:33 PM
I didn't have any real knowledge of Weir to form an opinion. However, his behavior after his performance was disgraceful--leaving the 'kiss and cry' area and all. Plus the blame he tossed around because he himself missed his bus. Not the mark of an Olympian IMO.

I prefer Johnny Cheek, the speedsakter, who has donated his medal winnings (about $35,000)  to charity--including those dedicated to relief in the Sudan. Now there's some character.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lanie on February 20, 2006, 08:52:56 PM
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It is impossible to learn russian only during the trainings 8)
Tatiana Tarassova now left America and returned to Moscow forever.


Johnny's not fluent.  He's been visiting her over the summers for I think a few years, and I think he's been teaching himself.  Also during the tours, he hangs out with the Russian skaters.  He considers himself Russian as opposed to American, it seems!
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lucien on February 21, 2006, 12:14:07 PM
Great for our Italian friends,Enrico Fabris won gold at the 1500 meter speedskating today,Shani Davis came in 2nd,unfortunately Joey Cheek missed a medal in the race.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: grandduchessella on February 21, 2006, 03:03:30 PM
Darn.  :(  Guess that's a race I don't need to watch. (They air the major events in the evening here in the US rather than live) I was rooting for Cheek.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lanie on February 21, 2006, 06:35:59 PM
Ladies short program spoilers...






GO SASHA!  :)  You were  8) tonight, girl!
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: nerdycool on February 21, 2006, 06:54:23 PM
Ah..... Lanie, I'm glad that the content of your spoiler wasn't too detailed. I'm really bad about spoiling competitions and I physically made myself too busy to get the results when they were actually happening for the ladies. Being spoiled for the other competitions was such a letdown, so I wanted to really be suprised at the ladies. But I'm glad Sasha skated well.

As for Johnny... you either love him or hate him. I love him. I like the fact that he doesn't care what other people think about him and that he's such a beautiful skater. I did want to smack him on the head during his LP though because it's the Olympics... you don't skip a jumping pass just because you're tired. You go for broke. Even if he'd fallen, he still would have gotten points for it. But since he left it out completely, he missed all those points. And his wearing the CCCP jacket IMO, isn't a big deal at all. It's just a jacket from an non-existing country, and it's a big trend in Europe right now. However, if he'd worn his Russian team jacket (which he does have), that would be a huge deal. I'm glad he hasn't done that.

But I am happy for the US men because all 3 were in the top 7 and that in itself is a rare feat. Though IMO, Savoie should have been 5th.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: grandduchessella on February 21, 2006, 10:09:17 PM
I'm rooting for Kimmie Meissner. I just have never, going back to Salt Lake City, been able to warm to Sasha Cohen and some of the interviews she gave around that period didn't help. Kimmie is a great skater, just a delightful person and, best of all, trains at my alma mater the University of Delaware!  :D

As for Johnny Weir--blech.  :P  Can't stand him--he just grates on my last nerve.

In all the sports I watch, I have to be able to like a performer or team to root for them but that's just me--I can't separate the talent and the person.

OK--I posted about 10 mins before they aired Cohen's skate (I was avoiding any spoilers).  I have to say I was impressed with her--she seemed more approachable, more mature, freer somehow. I'm still rooting for Meissner but Cohen has seriously moved up in my book. As one of the commentators said, 'The real Sasha Cohen has arrived.' I just hope she'll take part in the closing ceremonies--she didn't in the opening which I never like when athletes don't go--and really settle into enjoying the experience.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lucien on February 21, 2006, 10:33:33 PM
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Darn.  :(  Guess that's a race I don't need to watch. (They air the major events in the evening here in the US rather than live) I was rooting for Cheek.


Da..,just my word as I saw the dutch move down too....,and I also at least hoped for a medal for Joey Cheek,as he's the most symphatatic guy on skates in Torino,as far as the US team is concerned .
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lanie on February 21, 2006, 10:45:53 PM
Sasha's a sweetheart.  I entered a contest on her website once about something I did nice for someone (adopting a soldier).  I was like, well, hey, whatever.  I did something good for someone out there! And she emailed me back personally saying how awesome I was for doing that, etc etc. :)  99% of the people I know who've met Sasha have the same opinion.  She's a lot more mature now.  She's 21 as opposed to 17 which was her age at SLC.  I'm so glad she just went out there and enjoyed herself.  I'm not a big Kimmie fan...she's just...blah.  She'll grow and mature, I'm sure, but right now she's not my cup of tea--but she's young, so I don't really hold it against her. ;)

nerdycool...agree with Matt.  <3 Matt.

I'm dreadfully nitpicky with skaters though since I skate myself. So I'm always going "eek" at bad basics, like Sasha's flutz (sigh--nerdycool knows what I'm talking about!), or just awful posture (Irina S comes to mind), etc.  Matt Savoie = perfection on ice.  Seriously.  Too bad he's going to Cornell.  I want to have your geeky smart skaterbabies, Matt! ;)

Oh.  Another comment:  GO JOHN AND SINEAD KERR! They rocked the HOUSE with their AWESOME Scottish free dance! :D
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Katia on February 22, 2006, 12:26:58 AM
It was really some good skates yesterday! Sasha was really astonishing! I once saw her at a competition in my country and she was just adorarble, both on and off the ice. Very kind and friendly towards the little girls around her, wanting for autograph.

Irina - great competition for her as well! I have always liked her so much. That elusive gold is so very near, but she has to skate perfectly, and Sasha has to make a mistae. I can't really tell whom I'm rooting... Maybe they could share the gold medal...?  ;D

Shizuka is very near and had a good skate, too...
Fumie was wonderful as well.
Kimmie and Emily - so good techcally, but I think they could mature a bit before stepping to the podium. They were happy and why not!

So many beautiful performances to watch!

One thing I disagree with the judges is Elena Sokolova. Disaster and she was held up. There were skaters with clean programs (AND difficulty) placed behind her.

What a shame that Carolina fell her combo. Otherwise, she skated with grace.

I must admit I'm a bit disappointed for our Susanna Pöykiö's placement (12th). She had a clean skate after all... Kiira Korpi made a mistake, luckily she is 20th and will go for free.

I'm eagerly waiting for the free program!!
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Katia on February 22, 2006, 12:42:40 AM
I forgot Elene Gedevanishvili, she was absolutely GREAT!! Like at Europeans. Hope she have a solid free as well!
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lanie on February 22, 2006, 01:58:37 AM
Katia - I agree with you about Elene and your Finnish girls!  I love Susanna and Kiira!  I hope they do really well in the free skate on Thursday; they're a joy to watch. :)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Katia on February 22, 2006, 04:35:32 AM
Thank you Lanie! :) I'm waiting to see good performances from Susanna and Kiira in the free, too!

I was wrong about Elena Sokolova, she is 18th, not held up at all. Maybe I was too tired when I was watching the competition- it lasted until 00.30 here! What a pity she collapsed like that! She has done so well lately, and now - at the most important competition - she had such an awful time!  :(
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: imperial angel on February 22, 2006, 08:16:06 AM
I am still hoping Irina will win, although I admit that Sasha skated better- this time. But Irina is mature, sophisticated, has such energy in her programs, and is a very athletic skater. Her short program is perfect for her, as the commentators said. She just lights up the ice with her prescence. I have always enjoyed watching her since she first came onto the scene. Sasha Cohen gave might well be the best performance that I have seen of hers, but for some reason she has never been much of a favorite of mine. As for Kimmie, I admire her skating, and she is the youngest, and most technically talented. Whenever I see her skate, I wonder if the record of the olympic champion being an American teenager will continue, and , if so, Kimmie is the one. I like her better as a skater than Sasha, but Irina is my favorite to win gold. :)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Joy0318 on February 22, 2006, 08:29:26 AM
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As for Johnny Weir--blech.  :P  Can't stand him--he just grates on my last nerve.
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Me either! He is a talented skater, but I don't like his cocky attitude.

As for the ladies I hope either Sasha or Irina win the gold.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: grandduchessella on February 22, 2006, 08:58:18 AM
The commentators mentioned that Irina battles vascular disease which inhibits her circulation and leaves her exhausted. To be able to compete at her level with that condition--and her 'advanced' age--is remarkable. Also, too sad about her mother battling cancer and being too ill to accompany her.  :(  Even more props to Irina for having the emotional stamina to compete at the Olympic games.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: grandduchessella on February 22, 2006, 09:05:21 AM
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Me either! He is a talented skater, but I don't like his cocky attitude.

As for the ladies I hope either Sasha or Irina win the gold.


Our male skaters (figure and speed) aren't burnishing the US image much these games--save for Joey Cheek.  :-/  Chad Hedrick & Shani Davis's snarking at each other--including yesterday's really embarrassing public airing of grievances; Davis's teeth-grating post-gold interview with Melissa Stark where he wouldn't even look her in the face OR crack a smile despite having gone into the Olympic history books; Johnny Weir's diva behavior and performance collapse....it just goes on. It's really distracting from their accomplishments on the ice--including about 7 medals so far.

Not to mention my "Anti-Bruce Mickels Olympic Parent Award" which goes to Shani Davis's mother for intentionally wearing the Dutch colors to the last skating event.  >:(  That really torqued me off. I mean, good Lord, your son is representing the US at the premier sporting event on one of the most-viewed television nights and you deliberately show up wearing another nation's colors--and it's not like they're not distinctive. Davis has been accused of not being a team player and I can see where it comes from. I mean, if I was Dutch and the parent one of my star athletes showed up to skate at one of the main events wearing red, white and blue, I'd been pretty angry as well.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: hikaru on February 22, 2006, 09:19:48 AM
Thank you , everybody , who likes Irina  and other our scaters. I like American speedy scaters very much.
Irina is remarkable warrior .  SHe had a super charming smile.
If I have trouble, I immediately think about Irina and try to fight.
I do not want to speak about her illnesse.
But it is hard. She must fight every day.
But we do not have to feel it.
The ice is her life.
I think that her age is not "advanced".....
Her mother do not have  a cancer.
She suffers of another thing..
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lucien on February 22, 2006, 09:55:38 AM
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Our male skaters (figure and speed) aren't burnishing the US image much these games--save for Joey Cheek.  :-/  Chad Hedrick & Shani Davis's snarking at each other--including yesterday's really embarrassing public airing of grievances; Davis's teeth-grating post-gold interview with Melissa Stark where he wouldn't even look her in the face OR crack a smile despite having gone into the Olympic history books; Johnny Weir's diva behavior and performance collapse....it just goes on. It's really distracting from their accomplishments on the ice--including about 7 medals so far.

 Not to mention my "Anti-Bruce Mickels Olympic Parent Award" which goes to Shani Davis's mother for intentionally wearing the Dutch colors to the last skating event.  >:(  That really torqued me off. I mean, good Lord, your son is representing the US at the premier sporting event on one of the most-viewed television nights and you deliberately show up wearing another nation's colors--and it's not like they're not distinctive. Davis has been accused of not being a team player and I can see where it comes from. I mean, if I was Dutch and the parent one of my star athletes showed up to skate at one of the main events wearing red, white and blue, I'd been pretty angry as well.


Surprisingly,dutch IOC member Anton Geesink(former Olympic gold medallist in judo in Tokio)wrote a letter to the US speedskating team,thanking them for putting speedskating on the map(that got me going >:()as it's on the (sports-)
map since decades,but alas,relatively unknown in the US compared to figure skating.

Shani seems to be a "fan" of dutch speedskater Erben Wennemars,Erbie,as he calls him,and he gets along with many competitors of the different nationalities,Hedrick is an arrogant character,strongly disliked by most skaters,not for being "better"as he said himself,just for being such an arrogant pain in the b...,quite frankly I was more then pleased he didn't get gold or silver.........

Joey Cheek is just everyones favorite,he's such a nice decent guy,heard he wishes to enter politics,ending in the White House eventually,he has my blessing!  

I'm off,the 1500 meters for women starts in 5 minutes... :D

Gold and silver for Canadians Klassen and Grooves,bronze for 19 year old dutch Ireen Wust,a debutante at the Olympics who won gold earlyer at the 1000 meter.She's more then pleased and beaming :D.


Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: imperial angel on February 22, 2006, 10:09:08 AM
I agree with Hikaru about Irina, I feel exactly the same. As for the speed skater's issues, they are rather disgraceful. I was astonished with their behaviour- I mean really! Can't they just focus on their individual accomplishments rather than tearing each other's throats. It makes you respect true athletes like all the medal contenders of the ladies's singles. On thursday, I will be watching hoping Irina will win, because Hikaru's words are exactly what I think with regard to Irina. :)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: hikaru on February 22, 2006, 10:27:30 AM
We could say that Elena Gedevanishvily is the most successful debutant of the Olympic Games.
I am so happy for her and for her coach - Elena Vodorezova - Buyanova.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: imperial angel on February 22, 2006, 10:40:32 AM
Yes, she has alot of talent! I think she will go places. As one of the commentators very aptly put it '' she is excited to be on the ice with the medal contenders, but it won't be long before they are not excited to be on same ice as her''! I think that was Dick Button, he always gets it right, he is the best skating commentator ever. She has spark and talented-Elena G.!
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: grandduchessella on February 22, 2006, 04:50:41 PM
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Thank you , everybody , who likes Irina  and other our scaters. I like American speedy scaters very much.
Irina is remarkable warrior .  SHe had a super charming smile.
If I have trouble, I immediately think about Irina and try to fight.
I do not want to speak about her illnesse.
But it is hard. She must fight every day.
But we do not have to feel it.
The ice is her life.
I think that her age is not "advanced".....
Her mother do not have  a cancer.
She suffers of another thing..


Sorry, Hikaru--I had put 'advanced' in quotes because she is very young still (27?) but that's considered old to be skating in the Olympics, esp as the  favorite. That's all.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: grandduchessella on February 22, 2006, 04:58:39 PM
I enjoy when the athletes get along with their competitors from other countries--it's showing up in their colors that bugs me. Tributes are great--I thought it was really classy the way the Dutch treated, I think it was Cheek, when he won even though it meant their skaters getting beaten out. I just enjoy seeing all the countries take pride in their nations though. It's stuff like that, as well as the Starks interview which you really had to see to appreciate how rude he was, that hurts Davis's image. Hedrick I hadn't heard much about before this but he's just as bad in terms of arrogance from what I've picked up in interviews. I thought it showed real lack of class not to congratulate Davis (unlike the aforementioned Dutch with Cheek) but then also to show it up by pointedly congratulating Joey. Grow up! That press conference that Hedrick/Davis had was just embarrassing.

Many of our athletes aren't behaving well and while they certainly aren't the majority, their antics are hogging the attention. In addition to the aforementioned Weir, Hedrick, Davis, you can add the overweight, obnoxious, 'so arrogant it makes Hedrick look like a paragon of modesty', drunken party boy Bode Miller. Hopefully his embarrassing showing will straighten him up but I doubt it.

On a related speedskating note which also deals with national pride, I confess, despite the fact that it meant the US lost gold, I couldn't help but get rather teary both when Italy won the team gold (their first ever speedskating medal) and then Fabris won the gold individually. The Italians were so happy and proud. :) Seeing Hedrick & Davis's behavior prior, I didn't feel badly that he beat them off. And he's adorable!
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lucien on February 22, 2006, 11:36:33 PM
The Italians really lived up to Torino's "Passion is here",wonderfull to see.May the best man/woman win,regardless the nationality is what the dutch go by,even tho it means they miss a medal,but fair is fair.

Not that it is'nt "slightly"disappointing tho,at times...but we hate whining.

The dutch are really going nuts when it comes to speedskating,THE national wintersport,it's hugely popular hence all the orange,including the Prince&Princess,in the oval.
http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/content.jsp?objectid=14329

What's so great as well is the way they get honored,as there is a Holland House in Torino,as at all Olympic venues,where the dutch celebrate each and every night,they're quite unique in doing so as no other nation has these facilities.Every time a medal was won the PoO awarded the winner with a huge,fake,medal on stage and then afterwards they all move to the Café Torino,a beatifull old café on one of the piazza's,but a dutch tv studio during the Olympics,winners and loosers gather there,the winners get honored again the loosers get a boost from it.But then I think the Olympics doesn't really have loosers at all,being there after qualifying is already just great in it self,I'm aware not all agree with me here,but hey sport is sport.

Now,what will the 5000 and 10000 meters bring us?I hope for Joey and his dutch buddies on the podium,but if Fabris pulls that off as well,I would be thrilled all the same.              
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Annie on February 23, 2006, 07:28:22 AM
I didn't warm to Sasha in '02, but I have now. In a way I see her as kind of like Peyton Manning, so good, so talented, but when the big game starts the old red light comes on like Cindy Brady and they mess up. I am so afraid she's going to blow her long. I hope she doesn't, because she was the best skater there and she deserves it, if it's a fair and honest competition.

If Irina wins, I want it to be really because she was honestly the very best, and not because anyone felt sorry for her because of her personal problems, or because  a Russian sweep would be cool or anything like that (which is what I'm afraid of, the old pity vote) She has a silver from last time. I have a problem with anyone, even Michelle Kwan, who have other medals and wanting to get their 'dream' of gold. I know for them personally, it means something, but there are so few medals and so many 'dreams', it just doesn't seem right to be greedy. While Michelle was very gracious and philisophical and classy about not getting gold, I was annoyed at the announcers here who say 'she'll always be tainted' and 'have an asterix next to her name' 'she was good BUT'. This is a bad attitude and diminshes her accomplishments. Why not boast about the things she DID accomplish? She's a double Olympic medalist, yay!


I also hate it when people whine over a silver or a bronze like they came in 20th place. Do you know how many people would die for your metal? All those athletes from all those countries, most will never win one, many more at home don't even qualify for the Olympics. If you get a personal bronze, that is beyond special, and it seems arrogant  and that anyone would devalue that for themselves.

Which brings me to the US speed skaters! Sigh, I thought only women were that gossipy and backstabbing! They too should be very happy they got silver and bronze and stop whining like they got nothing. I'm sure others in the field who did get nothing would gladly take their medals if they don't want them. Again it's very arrogant to be snotty about it and think you deserved gold (unless there was cheating in the judging, which happens, but not in an honest race/performance) His mother wearing orange, oh how childish! How bad the US must look to the world with such attitudes.

PS- I just read they have supposedly made up, and Shani has backed out of the 10,000M.

I also forgot to say good luck to Kimmie and Emily, I think either of them can pull up to a medal with a great performance, as Sarah did last time. (she was in fourth after the short and won gold) I also hope Carolina can do well in front of her home crowd.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: grandduchessella on February 23, 2006, 11:10:33 AM
Yeah, they've supposedly 'made up'. Probably Team USA called them on the carpet. Davis wasn't going to race the 10,000 anyway--that's part of the reason the last race got so much attention, it would be their last head-to-head. Like I said, I'm glad Fabris won. What a genuine guy--so proud and happy. I'm sure if he'd lost, he still would've been thrilled with any medal. I was listening to Sports radio this morning and they said that US sportswriters during the match-up actually high-fived each other when Fabris won. They were glad the US had a medal (or 2) but were glad neither of those 2 crybabies won the gold. What does that say about the perception of them on the part of people whose job it is to cover them.  :-/

I never got the 'if you don't win the big one (ie gold, the Super Bowl, a World Series) you're tarnished somehow'. It's just ridiculous to me. So many factors have to fall in place for those events to occur. You can be the most talented in your sport (Dan Marino in football, Michelle Kwan in skating) and never win the premier event. You should look at a person's whole career. Yes, choking or whatever in the big game/event has to factor in to a legacy but it seems to be too large a factor in modern day sports.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Annie on February 23, 2006, 11:28:21 AM
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Yes, choking or whatever in the big game/event has to factor in to a legacy but it seems to be too large a factor in modern day sports.



Kurt Browning never won any Olympic medal of any color, he 'choked' every time. But he was a great skater, just not in the Olympics.

I sure hope Peyton will have another chance to redeem himself, Steve Young used to be that way too but he finally got the monkey off his back and won the SB! If the Colts can keep the triplets together, there's always hope.

You're right, there are a lot of factors out there that have to work out in your favor. Some very great athletes have never won the 'big one' and through quirks of fate, some very mediocre at best ones have.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: grandduchessella on February 23, 2006, 04:43:47 PM
Oh Lucien, they hadn't aired it here yet!  :(  
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lucien on February 23, 2006, 04:54:05 PM
I deleted the post,sorry GDElla.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Joy0318 on February 23, 2006, 07:00:06 PM
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Which brings me to the US speed skaters! Sigh, I thought only women were that gossipy and backstabbing! They too should be very happy they got silver and bronze and stop whining like they got nothing.


Agreed! I am so tired of their acting like children instead of adults.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Laura_ on February 23, 2006, 07:37:47 PM
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Oh Lucien, they hadn't aired it here yet!  :(  



i made the same stupid mistake but on other thread! :-[ :-[ i apologize again  :-[ :-X sorry all X 1000 :( :(


Laura
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: grandduchessella on February 24, 2006, 07:07:02 AM
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Agreed! I am so tired of their acting like children instead of adults.


At least now they've shaken hands, agreed to act better, and wished each other well. Finally!
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: imperial angel on February 24, 2006, 08:27:15 AM
Well, Irina didn't win  :'( I was hoping! But I give Sasha credit for picking herself up after two falls, and skating the program after that in a very great fashion, although she didn't know if she would medal. She deserved the silver, and is about halfway in her battle not to mess up in the free skate. I give Sasha alot of credit! As for Irina she gave a wonderful performance, but it was flawed by a fall. But that she was even there is a testimony to the true athlete she is. And as for the japanese gold member winner, she skated very elegantly, and was very artistic,. and is a strong jumper who nailed all her jumps-still it was a surprise. But than both Michelle Kwan ( who might have won if she had not been injured given her rivals mistakes), and Irina prove that there are champions of the highest caliber, who never manage to get Olympic gold.  On a different note, the US speedskaters are showing some improvement in being mature medal winners rather than the Tonya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan of speedskating, which is what they reminded me of.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Annie on February 24, 2006, 08:28:15 AM
I purposely avoided the internet yesterday where I might see results, I wanted to watch it at night and be surprised!


Sasha, like Peyton Manning, is extremely talented but can never totally deliver when the pressure is on, you could see it in her eyes. She was very lucky to hold on for silver. She was very gracious about it, saying she didn't think she was going to medal at all and was happy to have it. This is good, I hate seeing people whine and cry over silver or bronze like they 'lost'. The odds against getting any medal, considering the amount of competition from all over the world, is enormous. Then consider thousands more didn't even make the Olympics! If you get a medal, any medal, you are one of the fortunate ones. Be happy!

The commentators, especially Bob Costas, are terrible about this.(treating silver and bronze as a 'loss.') He did this long speech last night and Sasha's and Irina's dreams being dashed, well excuse me but I saw them on the podium! Irina has 2 now, a silver from last time and a bronze this time. Irina looked so sad, I know she wanted to win gold for her mom, but she should still be proud. He also did the speech for Michelle Kwan saying how her career would always be tainted by no gold, treating it like she was a complete loser! I think being a double medalist, even if they are silver and bronze, like Irina, Michelle and Nancy Kerrigan, are maybe even a better career haul than one gold that came out of nowhere as a surprise by someone we never hear about again. Would you rather have Irina's or Michelle's career, or Oksana's?

Sometimes I think the pressure on the favorites is too great, and this is why we've had surprise gold medalists in the last FOUR Olympics in womens' figure skating!

Congrats to the Japanese girl whose name I can't spell, I'm happy for her, and so glad Japan finally got a medal at the games. They have a lot of good athletes and I was sorry things weren't working out for them.

Looking ahead, Kimmie, Emily, Joannie, Kira, Carolina, the Japanese girl who was too young to go, and more, the future of figure skating looks fun and exciting! Can't wait for worlds!
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Joy0318 on February 24, 2006, 09:28:33 AM
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Sometimes I think the pressure on the favorites is too great, and this is why we've had surprise gold medalists in the last FOUR Olympics in womens' figure skating!



I think you are right. All the pressure was on Sasha and Irina here and I guess it affected their performances. I was hoping that either of them would win the gold but once I saw Sasha fall I knew  she would not get the gold. I was then just hoping that she would make it onto the podium. After Irina fell  I knew that neither of them would get gold.  The pressure was not on  the Japanese girl and she skated a good clean program and it was enough to win. I am really looking forward to the World's too.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: imperial angel on February 24, 2006, 11:22:16 AM
Yes, the worlds is always interesting to say the least. Of course, I love any figure skating competition.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: hikaru on February 24, 2006, 01:18:55 PM
Thank you everybody for your GREAT support.
I am so sorry for Irina for she did not win  :-[
The name of Japanese girl is Shizuka Arakawa.
She did everything very clear and beatifully.
She also is very talented and her scating has very large scale.
Now she will get the special diamond  tiara from Turino City, which Turino city is prepared for the winner of woman 's figure scating.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: grandduchessella on February 24, 2006, 02:30:34 PM
I was just so sad for both Sasha and Irina. Both handled it well and winning silver and bronze is nothing to be ashamed of AT ALL. How many of the other skaters would've gladly taken their positions--all of them I bet! I was annoyed with the 'well, they lost' mantra. It wasn't just Costas--the internet and papers were saying the same thing.

I was especially impressed with Sasha. To fall so early--and twice--could've seriously destroyed a skater's confidence. If you had come in after the falls and watched her last 3 minutes, you would've though 'oh there's the gold medal right there!' Her post-fall skating was the best of the night IMO and she deservedly took the silver. I got rather teary during her skate but then Romeo & Juliet is one of my favorite theme songs. Still, she made more of a connection with the music and the romance of it by herself than some pairs & dancing skaters did to theirs.

I thought Arakawa was good but boring. It just looked to me (no skating expert grant you) that she was checking off the elements--it was elegant but I sensed no passion, you could see her brain working too much. It wasn't a gold medal performance to me, except that the other two fell so there you have it. I was happy for her nonetheless in the sense that Japan had no medals this Olympics and the first night of skating, it was remarked how the pressure was really on the Japanese female skaters. And the other skater (I can't remember her name) came in 4th. I think Japan definitely staked a claim last night.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lanie on February 24, 2006, 10:08:46 PM
Sasha was beautiful.  I'm really proud of her, because two years ago she would have had a complete melt down.  But she went out there and sold her performance, let everything go, and it was amazing.  I was crying, not just because she'd let that gold go but because she was so beautiful and I was so proud of her.  She says there's no one to blame but herself, but that she's proud she was allowed to "let the music carry [me] through" the rest of her program.  It's sad but I think she'll go on to win Worlds, since Slutskaya and Arakawa aren't going.  Go Sasha!  :-*
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: nerdycool on February 25, 2006, 02:52:14 AM
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I thought Arakawa was good but boring. It just looked to me (no skating expert grant you) that she was checking off the elements--it was elegant but I sensed no passion, you could see her brain working too much. It wasn't a gold medal performance to me, except that the other two fell so there you have it. I was happy for her nonetheless in the sense that Japan had no medals this Olympics and the first night of skating, it was remarked how the pressure was really on the Japanese female skaters. And the other skater (I can't remember her name) came in 4th. I think Japan definitely staked a claim last night.

Fumie Suguri. I love her. She will probably retire soon, but the younger ladies in Japan are something to watch out for... Yukari Nakano, Yukina Ota, Yoshie Onda, Mao Asada (esp. her). Along with Yu-Na Kim of Korea, the next Olympics will be exciting with all the Asian talent.

But yeah, that's one of the things you'll notice about the new scoring system (CoP)... skaters just checking off elements and not really skating with passion. There are still a few skaters who can manage that, like Sasha, but most now are just skating to background music (see Plushenko's & Slutskaya's performances as good examples). Such a shame. Hopefully when skaters get more used to CoP, they'll bring back the artistry.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Dasha on February 25, 2006, 04:03:38 PM
I'm not a big Sasha fan, but I have to give her credit.  She did very well, and I hope that Worlds' will be better for her.  Her recovery and poise were something to be admired, and like Lanie, I'm quite proud and impressed.  Her exhibition peice I had a chance to see live last year at Champions On Ice, and I think it suits her well.  She should be proud of how she developed as a skater.

Irina did well, considering all that she has to deal with, and I think she ought to be happy with the medals that she does have.  Her passion comes out in exhibitions, and Plushenko finally did something right dirung the exhibitions last night.

I will also agree that Asia is where the future of ladies' and perhaps pairs' is.  As much as I love watching the Russians grab title after title in this sport, it's about time there was a change of scenes.  We're in for some interesting seasons and competitions ahead.

Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: grandduchessella on February 25, 2006, 04:57:09 PM
This was funny:

Mancuso's Victory Leaves One Technician Without Pants
After Losing Bet Over Giant Slalom, Vianello Skis Down Course in His Underwear
By JEAN-LUC COURTHIAL, AP Sports

TURIN, Italy (Feb. 25) - Andrea Vianello lost his pants in a bet, making for a chilly descent on the ski slopes.

Instead of dying his hair or shaving his head - as coaches and support personnel tend to do when their proteges win a big race - the Italian ski technician removed his trousers and skied down the race hill in his underwear following American Julia Mancuso's surprise gold medal performance in the giant slalom.

Vianello, who has done some work with the U.S. women's team, made the gentleman's bet with U.S. technical coach Patrick Riml.

"We spoke together and I said if (Mancuso) wins a medal, I come down in my underwear," said Vianello, who stripped to his black boxer shorts after the last racer had finished and skied the entire run in blowing snow.

"I didn't see him," Mancuso said, laughing. "I wish I had. I can't believe it. I'll have to get him to do it again!"

Vianello - whose nickname is "Giallo," which can translate to 'mystery' - once prepared the skis of Italian stars such as Giorgio Rocca and Alberto Tomba.


Here's a picture:

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/sportsevent/article.adp?id=20060225075009990010
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Margarita Markovna on February 25, 2006, 05:32:42 PM
Hahaha! Priceless!!
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Dasha on February 26, 2006, 12:06:33 AM
That's priceless indeed.

Thank you for sharing GDElla.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: grandduchessella on February 26, 2006, 09:12:42 AM
Well, for the US Olympians:

The Good:

2nd only to Germany in number of medals won

Apollo Ohno won 3 medals, only the 2nd Winter Olympian to do so since Eric Heiden; has won 5 in 2 Olympics the only one to do so since Heiden (who won his 5 in one Olympics)

Sasha Cohen coming back from 2 falls to win Silver and being gracious over it

Joey Cheek (my favorite) winning 2 medals and donating the $40,000 to charity which the Olympic Committee will now match

Shawn White 'The Flying Tomato' who was so energetic and happpy

Shani Davis being the first African-American (the first black period) to win Individual Gold in a Winter Olympics and also, obviously, being the first AA male to win any medal. Vonetta Flowers won the first in Salt Lake but that was in the 2 man bobsled

Belbin & Agosto winning the first dancing medal in 30 years and only the 2nd one period

Emily Hughes & Kimmie Meissner who so throughly enjoyed their first Olympics and show some real promise for the future

The first US medal in curling!

Kimberly Derrick pulling herself together to compete, even though she came in last, when her 'biggest fan' her grandfather, collapsed and died at the Olympics

The Bad

Michelle Kwan being forced to withdraw

some events we were favored to medal in that we didn't, especially in skiing

Sasha Cohen's falls which kept her from the Gold which her program, IMO, would've won her the gold

Lindsey Jacobellis's showboating which cost her a medal

The choice of when to air major events (which I understand but still) which led to most finding out the results before they aired and consequently lower ratings; they need to come up with a better plan

Johnny Weir's diva behavior where he tossed blame for his loss everywhere but on himself unlike Sasha & Irina

The Ugly:

Bode Miller's 0-5 Olympics and, more especially his incredibly obnoxious behavior--saying he still 'rocked' because he got to party

The Hedrick-Davis feud which overshadowed their accomplishments (and those of some other, more well-behaved compatriots) and was just embarrassing

The behavior of commentators who basically took the attitude towards Sasha (and Irina) that 'you don't win silver (or bronze), you lose gold' to borrow the old Nike Olympic motto--they were among the few held to this standard, bronze and silver were treated fine for other US Olympians

The same commentators who acted like the US Olympians bombed because they didn't repeat the huge medal haul of Salt Lake (which was the first Winter Olympics we had done well in--hello short memory)

There was tons to celebrate all around in terms of athletes from other countries but I'm not familiar with most, especially how to spell name  :-/  to be a good commentator so I stuck to the US. Congrats though to all those Olympians who won medals, and more, importantly represented their countries well and proudly whether or not they medalled.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Agneschen on February 26, 2006, 09:40:11 AM
I am a great supporter of the Austrian alpine skiing team and as such would like to congratulate them for their wonderful results ! The triple success yesterday in the slalom was awesome and a wonderdul way of ending the games (I could not believe my eyes and was beside myself with joy) !!  :D  :D
Also congrats to the Austrian ski jumping team for their medals (though they defeated the German team - and my all time favourite Martin Schmitt - I was supporting)! Finally congrats to Plushenko for his title - he was absolutely stunning during the short program !

What a pity the Winter Games are about to close ... I am very fond of winter sport and it is hardly ever aired on French TV ... 4 long years to wait until the next Olympics.

I was about to forget : a great many thanks to Italy and the city of Torino for all the wonderful job they have done during these 2 weeks !
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: ZarevnaOlga on February 26, 2006, 03:34:16 PM
Poor Irina...
Poor Sascha...

Great Shizuka! She is very beautiful! I saw she live in Dortmund 2004, where she won gold. And now olimpic gold! I saw the gold winner líve!!! Yuhuu!

I think Sascha will be the next wourld champion!
Who knows what programm will they all have? The same like Olimpic? Or have they all new programms? It is a lot of work, isnt it?

Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Laura_ on February 26, 2006, 06:37:36 PM
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Great Shizuka! She is very beautiful! I saw she live in Dortmund 2004, where she won gold. And now olimpic gold! I saw the gold winner líve!!! Yuhuu!



she is very beautiful isn't she? i havent seen such pretty Japanese skater for a long time,and also very gracious on ice,perhaps her athletic conformation helps here...and i love her blue dresses,i think blue suits her the best :)i was very happy for her ! :)



Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lanie on February 26, 2006, 06:57:43 PM
Everyone uses the same programs all season, though Shizuka and some other skaters have changed things around for the Olympics. :)
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: imperial angel on February 28, 2006, 10:55:03 AM
We have discussed the skaters, now, about the commentators. Did anyone besides me think that Tom Hammond doesn't know that much about figure skating?  ::) I didn't think he had that much knowledge of it at all, and I have watched pretty much every major televised figure skating event since 1995, as far as I am able. Anyway, I did appreciate NBC's Olmypic coverage in general,  it is certainly better than CBS, and how they covered the 1998 olympics.
Title: Re: Torino Olimpic
Post by: Lucien on March 11, 2006, 03:45:09 AM
So,yesterday the Paralympics started in Torino and hardly,if any at all,coverage from any of the tv stations.As we've seen so many Olympic hero's over the past weeks,I really think the atletes competing in Torino now deserve our attention as well,I have immense respect for what they've achieved,let alone they're able to compete in the Paralympics.It's so underrated,it's a disgrace in my eyes.Still here we go,the hero's of Torino's Paralympics:
http://www.paralympicgames.torino2006.org/ENG/ParalympicGames/photogallery/gallery_19_4.html