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Title: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on February 20, 2006, 06:32:31 PM
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I read it last June during my trip to France, and I loved it. The one thing about it that saddened me was the fact that had Margaret of Connaught not died so early, then it would have been SIX reigning consorts instead of five, and you so rarely hear about Margaret, it would have been interesting to learn more about her life growing up and her marriage to Gustav Adolf. Otherwise, this was a really really good book, and I definately did learn things about them that I didn't know



reading this i have decided that this wonderful person deserves a thread,if there is a thread on her already started feel free to ignore this;though i've searched the forum and couldn't find that thread dedicated to "the queen of hearts"as i've read she is named here;

the truth is that i don't know many things about her-all that i know is that she was a good ,loving mother ,a sensitive person,she was the mother of another great queen,Ingrid of Danmark,that she was a "glue"in the family during the war and that she died at 38 .

it would be so nice if we could start a little discussion here on her life since i'm always so curious to find out new things on any of QV's magnificent granddaughters :) as lostfan said we hear rarely about Margaret and it's a pity to forget a lady like her:)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on February 21, 2006, 04:40:58 AM
why did she die at 38?was she ill?
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Svetabel on February 21, 2006, 06:50:40 AM
She was pregnant (6th month) when she suddenly felt ill. The acute peritonitis became a reason of her death. :(
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Prince_Christopher on February 21, 2006, 06:54:06 AM
It's easy to see where she got her nickname (Daisy).
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on February 21, 2006, 04:08:24 PM
indeed she was as delicate as a flower,i think that delicate is the word that characterises her the best

so sad on finding out more about her tragic  her death :'(did not know she was expecting a child :'(


Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Rebecca on February 21, 2006, 04:26:13 PM
During her years as crown princess of Sweden, Margaretha (as she was called in Sweden) was immensly popular. I have not read all that much about her, but hardly anybody have had anything negative to say about her.

Today, her and Gustaf Adolf's summer castle, Sofiero, is open to the public, and the park and her garden is taken care of by professionals who work according to the ideas on gardening that Margaretha had. Sofiero is one of the most beautiful places I have ever seen (I was there a few years ago). :)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on February 21, 2006, 04:47:18 PM
Rebecca,thank you for great info on Daisy:)i'm sure she was very popular in Sweden ...can't imagine her not being popular and loved by the people since she was so sweet,noble and delicate.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on February 22, 2006, 06:00:32 AM
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Today, her and Gustaf Adolf's summer castle, Sofiero, is open to the public, and the park and her garden is taken care of by professionals who work according to the ideas on gardening that Margaretha had. Sofiero is one of the most beautiful places I have ever seen (I was there a few years ago). :)



lucky you!!!i'm sure the castle and its garden are beautiful decorated:)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 22, 2006, 07:40:19 PM

Daisy is one of my favorites. I have the bio on her that's in Swedish.

I wish there was more on her out there--the bios on her father don't give a lot of info. I'm always looking though.

Queen Margarethe of Denmark (her granddaughter) also shares her nickname, Daisy, and has several pieces of jewelry that belonged to Daisy. They were inherited by her only daughter Queen Ingrid and passed on to Queen Margarethe.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 22, 2006, 07:42:15 PM
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why did she die at 38?was she ill?


She actually died on her father's birthday.  :'( Arthur would outlive his 2 older children.

There were conflicting reports of her death. From what I could piece together, she caught a cold, it led to an ear infection and that infection spread and eventually led to her death. She was about 6 mos along in her pregnancy.

Here's part from another thread:

'The family were together for the last time at Patsy's wedding in 1919 at which Ingrid was a bridesmaid. Soon though, Daisy who had had ear trouble early in 1920 seemed to be improving by Feb  and was expecting her 6th child in June. Then she ame down with chicken pox and developed trouble in her cheek bone (which could've been related to the prior ear trouble). She went north for a change of air and caught a bad chill but was reported to be doing well. Even the day before her death, Arthur didn't know the severity of her illness. Sadly, on Arthur's 70th birthday, she died at age 38 and the day became a sad anniversary. '
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 22, 2006, 07:54:20 PM
While much has been made of Patsy's artistic talent, Daisy was no slouch herself. There are many photos of her sketching and she exhibited/sold some of them for her numerous charity bazaars during WW1. She was tireless in trying to raise money for the war effort and care of soldiers. She loved the outdoor sports that living in Sweden afforded her--skiing, sledding, ice skating. She was very athletic. Much of her artistic ability also came out in her love of gardens--there was a book she published (also for charity) about her gardens.
Daisy:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/grandduchessella/10083928a.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/grandduchessella/Copyofdaisyc1893.jpg) (as a bridesmaid at George & Mary's wedding)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 22, 2006, 08:00:23 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/grandduchessella/margaretbritain1882-611.jpg)

Louise, Daisy & Patsy at EVII's coronation:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/grandduchessella/10085171a1.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on February 23, 2006, 04:13:44 AM
grandduchessella thank you for wonderful photos and great info as usual.so sad she died so young as i said i did not know she was pregnant  :'( :'( :'(

sorry i couldnt find the thread you started on Windsor Land quite hard to find a thread there ;),thanks for giving the link:)

so apart from the bio in Swedish is there any other book on her?? i dont think there is :-/its a pity,i think her life was very interesting ...hope someday we'll have a bio on her as we do have on her many cousins.

the more i read about Margaretha the more i like her...oh and she must have loved gardening and flowers since she was a flower herself! :)

Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on February 23, 2006, 04:41:08 AM
not sure but i think i have read somewhere  that their marriage was a happy one,is this true??[the couple do look as if croped out of a fairy tale ]--a love match--and the lovely result :D



Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Rebecca on February 23, 2006, 03:22:01 PM
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not sure but i think i have read somewhere  that their marriage was a happy one,is this true??[the couple do look as if croped out of a fairy tale ]--a love match--and the lovely result :D



Yes, it is said that it was a love match, and that their marriage was very happy. :) They probably fit very well together. Margarethas mother-in-law, the stiff queen Victoria, was not always very happy or benevolent about Margaretha's "liberal" ideas, but I think that Margaretha stood up pretty well to the old dragon. ;)

On this (http://www.fyrklovern.se/templates/Page.aspx?id=12627) page there are some pictures of Margaretha and Gustaf Adolf and one of what Sofiero looks like today. The text is in Swedish, but it gives a short history of  Sofiero (Gustaf Adolf and Margaretha got it as a wedding gift from his grandparents, king Oscar II and queen Sophia (Sofiero is derived from queen Sophias name) as well as a description of the castle today. :)                  

By the way, you spelled the names of her children excellently. :)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Rebecca on February 23, 2006, 03:26:25 PM
Grandduchessella

Could you please tell me the title of the biography on Margaretha and also the name of the author? During the last few years there has been an increase of published biographies in Swedish on Swedish royals, but it is almost always the kings (for example Johan III, Karl Knutsson Bonde, Gustaf III, Gustaf V).  :-/ I would really like to read more about crown princess Margaretha. Thank you very much in advance. :)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 23, 2006, 05:16:35 PM
Sure--it's

'Darling Daisy': En Bok Om Kronprinsessan Margareta av Sverige by Staffan Tjerneld. Published in Stockholm by Bonniers, 1981. ISBN: 91-0-045330-7. It can be hard to find but well worth it.

If only she'd become Queen, even if she died young, there'd be more out there, as in Julia Gelardi's Born to Rule.  :(
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: kmerov on February 23, 2006, 05:23:54 PM
I have always liked Daisy aswell. One of her interest was photography, and I seem to recall a book that had many of her pictures.
Margareta's upringing of her children was very "modern", and I think she did receive some critic about it.
Thanks all for the great pictures. :)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: kmerov on February 23, 2006, 05:25:36 PM
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Sweden/margaret_daisy.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/kmerov/RF%20of%20Sweden/449px-Margaret_of_Connaught.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 23, 2006, 05:31:00 PM
It was a love match (though I was told on the scandinavian board that he eventually strayed) and was accomplished very quickly. The two met up in Cairo and boom! the deal was done. They were very well suited and apparently happy, despite any straying, and loved their children. When you look at photos of Daisy and her children, she is just so warm and natural--one of the best of royal mothers IMO. It's no wonder that it was hard for Louise to come into that situation, especially not being of the warm & cuddly nature herself.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 23, 2006, 05:31:47 PM
taken in Cairo on the engagement day

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/scandinavian/engagementdayw.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 23, 2006, 05:33:01 PM
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I have always liked Daisy aswell. One of her interest was photography, and I seem to recall a book that had many of her pictures.
Margareta's upringing of her children was very "modern", and I think she did receive some critic about it.
Thanks all for the great pictures. :)


She wrote two books, one of which she illustrated herself with paintings. I don't know if she was a big photographer but, like her sister, was a dedicated artist. She had a studio in her home and was friends with many with artistic interests.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 23, 2006, 05:34:25 PM
Daisy as mother:

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/scandinavian/margaretbritain1881-13.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/scandinavian/margaretbritain1881-38.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/scandinavian/margaretbritain1881-40.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 23, 2006, 05:35:12 PM
engagement portrait (one of several poses)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/scandinavian/daisygustavengaged.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 23, 2006, 05:36:49 PM
wedding day, with bridesmaids wearing daisies  :)  It's in this dress, that postcards of Ena were made, often misidentified as her own wedding

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/scandinavian/daisywedding.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/scandinavian/0262.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 23, 2006, 05:38:15 PM
There was a lot of press surrouding the engagement, wedding and arrival in Stockholm--covered in the British and Swedish presses. This is one photo of them arriving in Stockholm:

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/scandinavian/arrivalinstockholm.jpg)

There are several others on board a small boat and at the train station as well.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on February 23, 2006, 05:51:57 PM
OMG!!the thread has started to develop finally !thanks everyone  :-* :-* :-*

thanks everyone for sharing gorgeous pics and great info...the more i read the more i get to know Margaretha-when i started this thread i had few vague ideas on her life ,but now i have started to "depict" a clearer image of her ... and i think i'll soon have to change my top 5 grandaughters  again  :-[ ::) :)

Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 24, 2006, 05:08:18 PM
The cameo picture is one of my favorites. I think the set originally belonged to Desiree? It's definitely one of Queen Silvia's favorites. I think Daisy wore it to Patsy's wedding.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/britain/cameo-31.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Rebecca on February 26, 2006, 02:08:38 PM
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Sure--it's

'Darling Daisy': En Bok Om Kronprinsessan Margareta av Sverige by Staffan Tjerneld. Published in Stockholm by Bonniers, 1981. ISBN: 91-0-045330-7. It can be hard to find but well worth it.

If only she'd become Queen, even if she died young, there'd be more out there, as in Julia Gelardi's Born to Rule.  :(



Thank you very much! :) I will be looking for this book. There are not exactly an abundance of old books stores in the area where I live, but I will do my best, as I really would like to know more about crown princess Margaretha.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Rebecca on February 26, 2006, 02:44:54 PM
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It was a love match (though I was told on the scandinavian board that he eventually strayed) and was accomplished very quickly. The two met up in Cairo and boom! the deal was done. They were very well suited and apparently happy, despite any straying, and loved their children. When you look at photos of Daisy and her children, she is just so warm and natural--one of the best of royal mothers IMO. It's no wonder that it was hard for Louise to come into that situation, especially not being of the warm & cuddly nature herself.



I have never heard that he strayed later in the marriage, but he did do so around the time they got married. Staffan Skott, a Swedish author, writes in his book Alla dessa Bernadottar, that Gustaf (VI) Adolf "had one or two illegitimate children, born around the time he married Margaretha" (my translation), but he does not get more precise than so.

It is also said that in 1921, the year after Margaretha died, Gustaf Adolf proposed to Margaretha's cousin, Helena Victoria of Schleswig-Holstein, as he wanted a mother for his children, but she said no.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Svetabel on February 27, 2006, 08:11:14 AM
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It is also said that in 1921, the year after Margaretha died, Gustaf Adolf proposed to Margaretha's cousin, Helena Victoria of Schleswig-Holstein, as he wanted a mother for his children, but she said no.


Thora??? Sounds like he did not care whom to marry!
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Michael_II on February 28, 2006, 05:01:32 PM
Just a courious question:  Did any of Cpss. Margaret's
children really remember her.  I know probably Gustav and Ingrid must have and also Bertil.  I remember seeing a picture of Gustav and Ingrid following her coffin through the streets of Stockholm for her funeral.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 28, 2006, 09:55:49 PM


Her older children definitely still had memories of her and Ingrid was particularly close to her mother--even naming (and nick-naming) her first daughter after her.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on March 01, 2006, 03:31:27 PM
Margareta was first laid to rest in the Storkyrkan in Stockholm, but 1922 she was reburied at the Kungliga begravningsplatsen (royal burial ground) near Castle Haga (photo), which she and her husband had chosen as their burial place:  
(http://www.hagaslott.se/bilder/haga3.jpg)

and a cute family picture:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Crown_Prince_Gustav_%28VI%29_Adolf_of_Sweden_w_fam_07729v.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Rebecca on March 01, 2006, 03:33:37 PM
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Thora??? Sounds like he did not care whom to marry!



Is Thora her nickname? I do not know very much about Helena Victoria of Schleswig-Holstein. :-[ Was she a nice person? In the book by Skott it is written that she was a close friend of both Margaretha and Gustaf Adolf. She turned his proposal down with the excuse that she was too old and did not want to move.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on March 01, 2006, 04:25:56 PM
Some more nice pictures:
Margret and Bertil
(http://www.korstappan.se/img/stor-korst047.jpg)

"Our Crown Princess with Princes Gustaf Adolf and Carl Johan"
(http://www.vykort.gotdns.org/img/9601.jpg)

Margret and one year old Ingrid
(http://www.nordicsite.com/i2.w.JPG)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Prince_Lieven on March 01, 2006, 04:28:36 PM
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Is Thora her nickname? I do not know very much about Helena Victoria of Schleswig-Holstein. :-[ Was she a nice person? In the book by Skott it is written that she was a close friend of both Margaretha and Gustaf Adolf. She turned his proposal down with the excuse that she was too old and did not want to move.


Thora was indeed her nickname. By all accounts she was a nice woman, and has been much discussed on the Windsors! ;)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on March 01, 2006, 08:18:06 PM
Wearing the Khedive of Egypt tiara that was a wedding gift. It is still worn by members of the Danish/Greek royal families today.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/scandinavian/daisy.jpg)
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Post by: grandduchessella on March 01, 2006, 08:24:38 PM
in her wedding dress

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/scandinavian/08625261.jpg)
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Post by: grandduchessella on March 01, 2006, 08:26:52 PM
This was the cover of the Illustrated London News's wedding issue. The bridesmaids are Patsy, Ena, Baby Bee and Pss Mary.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/queenena/scandinavian/08625341.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: jfkhaos on March 02, 2006, 10:35:39 AM
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Margareta was first laid to rest in the Storkyrkan in Stockholm, but 1922 she was reburied at the Kungliga begravningsplatsen (royal burial ground) near Castle Haga (photo), which she and her husband had chosen as their burial place:  
(http://www.hagaslott.se/bilder/haga3.jpg)

and a cute family picture:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Crown_Prince_Gustav_%28VI%29_Adolf_of_Sweden_w_fam_07729v.jpg)


Since Gustav remarried, is he buried with Margaret or Louise?
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on March 02, 2006, 11:27:37 AM
Margaret, Gustav and Louise are all buried in the royal burialgrounds near Haga. Actually, Gustav and Margaret had chosen this place as their gravesite instead of the more traditional Storakyrkan in Stockholm. Margaret was the first to be buried there in 1922 (from 1920-22 she was laid to rest in the Storakyrkan).
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on March 02, 2006, 03:29:52 PM
And a nice picture of the wedding:
(http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/3086/daisywedding1uv.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Rebecca on March 02, 2006, 03:48:16 PM
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Thora was indeed her nickname. By all accounts she was a nice woman, and has been much discussed on the Windsors! ;)



Thank you very much for the info, Prince Lieven. :) I have not read very much in the Windsor section yet for some unknown reason, but I will do so now. :) And it is nice to know that Thora was a nice lady. There are so many nicknames around, most of them were unknown to me before I joined this discussion board - Missy, Mossy, Affie, Ernie, Moretta, Ducky et cetera. But I am beginning to get the hang of them now. ;)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on March 02, 2006, 06:56:44 PM
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/Connaughtengagement.jpg)

Duchess and Duke of Connaught, Gustav Adolf, Margaret and Patsy taken at time of engagement in Cairo
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Post by: Linnea on March 03, 2006, 06:31:00 AM
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Wearing the Khedive of Egypt tiara that was a wedding gift.


That´s nice - Egypt tiara because of their Kairo-engagement?
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on March 03, 2006, 01:47:18 PM
With her granny, Queen Victoria

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/DaisyandVictoria.jpg)
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Post by: Linnea on March 03, 2006, 03:05:53 PM
Thanks Laura! :) Your pics are always superb!

Here´s Daisy sitting on her mothers lap:
(http://www.btinternet.com/~sbishop100/alicky8.jpg)

and here is drawning by Daisy showing the garden of Sofiero
(http://www.algonet.se/~sylve_a/sofiero1.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on March 03, 2006, 10:04:17 PM
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That´s nice - Egypt tiara because of their Kairo-engagement?


No, because it was a gift from the Khedieve of Egypt.  :) I'm sure it added to the pleasure though.

A piece of jewelry worn by Bertil's widow Princess Liliane belonged to Daisy. It was done in scarab design in various jewels and the design was in commemoration of their time in Egypt.

There's a link to the necklace:

http://www.royal-magazin.de/sweden/crownprincess-margaretas-necklace.htm
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Post by: grandduchessella on March 03, 2006, 10:30:17 PM
a pretty and popular bridesmaid

for George & May in 1893

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/grandduchessella/Copyofdaisyc1893.jpg)

for Maud & Haakon in 1896

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/File1889daisyw.jpg)

for Alice Albany & Alexander Teck in 1904 (along w/Patsy)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/r419w.jpg)
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Post by: grandduchessella on March 03, 2006, 10:31:35 PM
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/1761893010daisyw.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/SF370703w.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on March 04, 2006, 05:44:53 PM
fantastic grandduchessella ,your photos are always so rare !!! thank you for posting again here :Dthe second pic is lovely!!!!!!


Margaretha was very talented,wasn't she?? [i refer here to the drawing she made showing the garden of Sofiero] ~wonderful work ::)not only did she love gardening but she seems to have enjoyed painting flowers as well :)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on March 04, 2006, 05:57:54 PM
In her book "The Garden We Made", there are copies of some of her paintings. I don't know much about art, but they looked pretty good to me.  
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on March 04, 2006, 06:07:52 PM
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/DaisyandIngrid.jpg)

Daisy and Ingrid

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/DaisyandFamily.jpg)

Daisy, Duchess of Connaught, Patsy and Arthur
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Post by: Keith on March 04, 2006, 07:37:05 PM
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/DaisyofSweden.jpg)

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/Daisyandeldest.jpg)

Two of my favorites.

I have some more I'll be posting over the next few days, hopefully some of them will be ones people haven't seen.
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Post by: Linnea on March 05, 2006, 06:54:54 AM
Daisy with parents and sibblings
(http://web.onetel.com/~freemantle/bp/dscf1720.jpg)

Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on March 05, 2006, 07:10:33 AM
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Thank you Laurra! Lovely thread and lovely pictures.

Such a shame Diasy died so young! :-[

You are right - it´s very sad. But even though her life was short, I think it was happy. What do you think? ???


Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Eddie_uk on March 05, 2006, 07:14:58 AM
Lovely picture Linnea! I don't know as much about Daisy as i would like but I think she had a happy life.

Her childhood seemed lovely (compared to some of her cousins) although her mother appears like she was a little bit harsh?  :)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Prince_Lieven on March 05, 2006, 07:18:36 AM
I've heard that the Duchess of Connaught was a strict mother, but not horribly so, I think. Certainly Daisy didn't have a miserable childhood. The pictures of her are lovely, I think she resembled (even a little) her cousin Ducky.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Eddie_uk on March 05, 2006, 07:22:22 AM
I think i read a nice story in Charlotte Zeepvats book. Apparently Daisy and Patricia where photographed and they decided to lock their brother out of the room. He was bangining on the door and and they wouldn't open it! When they did their mother came marching in!!

Please correct me if that's incorrect!

I can really see a likeness to Ducky too!
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on March 05, 2006, 07:25:05 AM
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I think i read a nice story in Charlotte Zeepvats book. Apparently Daisy and Patricia where photographed and they decided to lock their brother out of the room. He was bangining on the door and and they wouldn't open it! When they did their mother came marching in!!


I think it´s correct - I have read it in "Queen Victoria´s family" too. :)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Prince_Lieven on March 05, 2006, 07:25:41 AM
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I think i read a nice story in Charlotte Zeepvats book. Apparently Daisy and Patricia where photographed and they decided to lock their brother out of the room. He was bangining on the door and and they wouldn't open it! When they did their mother came marching in!!

Please correct me if that's incorrect!


Yes, that's right. ;D The photographer mentions something like 'when they opened the door the Duchess of Connaught came sweeping into the room. I'll never forget her stately progress and the swish of her train.' That's quoted from memory alone, btw!

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I can really see a likeness to Ducky too!


Good, I thought I was crazy!  ;)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Eddie_uk on March 05, 2006, 07:28:50 AM
lol, good! :)

I think Patricia and Daisy get overlooked by their more beautiful and illustrious cousins but i think they were lovely looking!!
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on March 05, 2006, 07:31:09 AM
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lol, good! :)

I think Patricia and Daisy get overlooked by their more beautiful and illustrious cousins but i think they were lovely looking!!


Do you think so? I think they were lovely and didn´t have to care about the looks of others! ;)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Prince_Lieven on March 05, 2006, 07:33:31 AM
I think Zeepvat says Patsy was once 'the darling of the British press' so maybe her charm wasn't entirely overlooked!
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Eddie_uk on March 05, 2006, 07:38:34 AM
Oh i agree! i ment that when people discuss QV's beautiful grandaughters like Alix and Missy they forget Patsy and Daisy who real lookers too IMO! :)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on March 05, 2006, 07:38:38 AM
Anyway, here is lovely Daisy with cute Carl Johan :-*
(http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3272/carljohannsweden19164fe.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on March 05, 2006, 07:44:44 AM
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Oh i agree! i ment that when people discuss QV's beautiful grandaughters like Alix and Missy they forget Patsy and Daisy who real lookers too IMO! :)


I understand what you mean - yet I think Daisy would deserve the same attention! She wasn´t only lovely looking, she had a lovely personality too! ;D
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on March 05, 2006, 09:45:28 AM
IMO,she rather resembles Missy than Ducky;her face features were much more delicate than Ducky's--(if this is possible in English ;))
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on March 05, 2006, 10:13:09 AM
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OMG!!!!!!!! Keith ,your last one is GORGEOUS!!!! i have never seen it!!! thanks for sharing with all of us  :-* :-* :-*


Laura


I hadn't either--and, when it comes to Daisy, that's pretty unusual! Was it from an old magazine ala the Ena ones on her thread? They have the best stuff.  :)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/Picture2231daisyw.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on March 05, 2006, 10:17:49 AM
Daisy and her brother Arthur didn't see as much of their parents in their younger years as Patsy did. QV didn't want the children to be taken to some of the more remote places that Arthur went to in the course of his military career--India being one such case. Thus, they were often separated from their parents for months at a time. This did not please Arthur at all (though QV caved and let them take Patsy) and he wrote angrily about it to his sister Louise. It's one of the reasons that there are a number of pictures of Daisy and young Arthur with QV (and their Albany & Battenberg cousins) moreso than Patsy. It led to a closer parental bond with Patsy than Daisy though Arthur was a devoted father. Louise was more Prussian and was more of a strict figure to her children it seems, though by no means a harsh one.

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/01034510w.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on March 05, 2006, 10:18:52 AM
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/File0461withdaisyw.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on March 05, 2006, 10:19:43 AM
from one of QV's tableaux

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/img682w.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/File1952w.jpg)
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Post by: grandduchessella on March 05, 2006, 10:20:58 AM
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/img202.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/be1731w.jpg)
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Post by: grandduchessella on March 05, 2006, 10:32:08 AM
the Khedieve of Egypt tiara went to Daisy's daughter Ingrid. Now all successive brides in the family wear it on their wedding day.

worn by her granddaughters Queen Margarethe of Denmark
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/margdaisybrooch1.jpg)

and Queen Anne-Marie of Greece
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/HU0285701.jpg)

and great-granddaughter Alexia of Greece on her wedding day.

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/daisytiaraalexia.jpg)
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Post by: grandduchessella on March 05, 2006, 11:08:28 AM
Queen Ingrid wearing the Khedieve

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/d0019.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on March 05, 2006, 11:20:04 AM
Ingrid seems to have been the most affected by her mother's death and done the most to keep her memory alive. She named her first daughter, Margarethe, after her and also bestowed the nickname 'Daisy' on her, which members of the family still call the Queen of Denmark by. She also established the tradition of wearing the Khedieve tiara on wedding days and, having inherited a large bit of her mother's jewelry, including smaller, more sentimental items, passed on several pieces of jewelry to her daughters. It was also Ingrid who had the rockiest relationship with her stepmother.

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/d0024w.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on March 05, 2006, 11:29:59 AM
Daisy being one of my favorites, I always had a hard time 'warming up' to Louise Mountbatten. In Gustav's favor, he didn't give Louise Daisy's wedding jewels to wear (unlike Leopold III did with Astrid's when he remarried) but bequeathed them to his children.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on March 05, 2006, 11:53:31 AM
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It was also Ingrid who had the rockiest relationship with her stepmother.



i'm sure she had a terrible time with LouiseM...she was just so different as compared to her dear mother :( :( :(
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on March 05, 2006, 12:42:46 PM
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I hadn't either--and, when it comes to Daisy, that's pretty unusual! Was it from an old magazine ala the Ena ones on her thread? They have the best stuff.  :)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/Picture2231daisyw.jpg)



That one is from a Swedish book I got on ebay called

Margareta Svergies Kronprinsessa which was published either late 1920 or early 1921
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on March 05, 2006, 12:45:20 PM
I really like the one of her in the court dress. Very nice photo.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on March 05, 2006, 12:48:05 PM
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/DaisyatSofiero.jpg)

on the steps of Sofiero

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/Daisyandson.jpg)

not sure which child this is
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on March 05, 2006, 12:50:01 PM
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/PatsyandDaisy.jpg)

with her sister Patsy
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on March 05, 2006, 01:00:37 PM
How did Daisy´s family react on her death? I have heard that it became a sad birthday for Arthur, but that´s clear, I think. Did they know about Daisy´s bad health?
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Michael_II on March 05, 2006, 02:35:02 PM
As I have been looking through this site at pictures of Cpss Margaret and her sister Patrica I have noticed how sad eyed they look.  It's not the absence of smiles which was common then but the look in their eyes.  Anyone else ever noticed this?
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Rebecca on March 05, 2006, 03:03:57 PM
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(http://
[img]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/Daisyandson.jpg)

not sure which child this is



It is princess Ingrid. There is a little text below the photo that says "Mor och dotter", which is Swedish for "Mother and daughter". :)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on March 05, 2006, 04:03:36 PM
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As I have been looking through this site at pictures of Cpss Margaret and her sister Patrica I have noticed how sad eyed they look.  It's not the absence of smiles which was common then but the look in their eyes.  Anyone else ever noticed this?


yes i have noticed that too ~ there are also some photos where Daisy looks happy and she  is smiling~basically the photos with her children:)

i think that even if her life was a short one  she was happy ;she must have been very happy since  she was so lucky to have such a wonderful family and to be loved in her adoptive country;these privileges were  not reserved for everyone at that time ...there are so many who reach 90 and yet they did nothing in their lifes nor were happy at all.

Daisy was a lucky person imo:)it is very simple:she spread love all around and she was rewarded with love ...what more could anyone dream of? :)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on March 05, 2006, 04:42:02 PM
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/DaisywithEdinburghs.jpg)

Daisy and Arthur w/Edinburgh cousins Alfred, Missy, Sandra, and Ducky

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/DaisyArthurandAliceAlbanyJan1884.jpg)

with Alice Albany
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on March 05, 2006, 04:45:51 PM
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/Daisyoutsidechapel.jpg)

getting ready to leave St. George's chapel after wedding

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/DaiseyarrivalSweden.jpg)

arrival in Sweden
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: anabel on March 06, 2006, 04:28:16 AM
After having looked through all these lovely pictures, I´d love to learn more about Daisy herself: What was her personality like? Was her marriage a happy one? How did she go on with the Swedish court and with her in-laws? Thanks!  
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on March 06, 2006, 08:33:00 AM
She had a gentle and very warm personality. I don't think I've ever read a negative thing about her--even Marie Pavlovna (her sister-in-law) writes kindly about her (albeit briefly) and that wasn't often the case in her memoirs.

She seems to have had a good relationship with her in-laws. Queen Victoria (her MIL) was a rather difficult personality but, as usual, Daisy seems to have had no problem with her.

Her only real unhappiness was during WW1. A large faction of the Court was pro-German while Daisy's sympathies were, obviously, with Britain. This put her in a very similar position to Ena in Spain. Daisy & Victoria worked together well to aid POWs on both sides. Their differing alliances were able to be put aside.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Rebecca on March 06, 2006, 01:01:40 PM
Actually, there were some strains in the relations between Margaretha and queen Victoria. The very conservative queen Victoria, who never forgot that her grandfather was the German Emperor Wilhelm I, did not like Margaretha's more modern ideas about child care at all. Crown princess Margaretha was also keen on sports, something which queen Victoria did not like at all. Queen Victoria also found other things to critizise on her. There is an anecdote that tells that just before a grand reception, queen Victoria sent a note to Margaretha telling her "not to hang so much jewelry on herself". Margaretha replied: "Tell the ******* that she would be happy if she had as many jewels as I!" (The ****** was ****** also in my Swedish source.)

But on the whole I think they worked well together, even with the strains during the first world war, when Margaretha of course was pro-British and queen Victoria, who was a rather draconic lady, was very, very pro-German.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on March 08, 2006, 01:07:16 PM
Crown Princess Margaret by Anders Zorn (1914)
(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5299/zorn2zg.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on March 08, 2006, 06:35:29 PM

Regarding the Cameo Tiara Daisy wore (from Danjel's site):

"The bridal tiara of Queen Silvia was given in 1932 to King Carl Gustav's mother, Princess Sybilla as a wedding gift. Before she left it to her son her daughters Birgitta and Désirée were also allowed to wear this piece at their wedding. Now it is only reserved for Queen Silvia. Such an historic jewel is only for special occasions. As a wedding tiara it's more or less predestined for the wedding day of crownprincess Victoria, the next generation. In the treasure chamber of the Bernadotte Foundation, installed in the palace of Stockholm, this showpiece rests in a display case.

Originaly owned by the French Empress Josephine, it was inherited by her granddaughter Queen Josephine, born princess of Leuchtenberg. Then it went to her daughter princess Eugenie, who left it to her nephew, prince Eugen. He gave it as a wedding gift to princess Sybilla of Saksen-Coburg-Gotha, when she married Crownprince Gustav Adolf in 1932. Her mother in law, Crownprincess Margaret has also been seen wearing this tiara.

The color of this historical bridal tiara is very special; it's white: it consists of pearls, heightened with 7 cameo's who depict mythological figures. In the centre there's the crowning of love (mother and child), to where portrait-cameos of a man and a woman aim their sight. On the backside portrait-cameo's are interchanged with a godess who has a putti on her lap (caretaker) and a man with a staff (guard)."

Amongst the Polish and British aristocracy there is a smaller diadem and a necklace with exact the same cameos, which leads to the suspection that all these parts have been a parure. This fine piece was made by Biennais, the parisan Court Jeweller of Napoleon, who was the predecessor of Chaumet."

It's one of the pieces most frequently seen on Queen Silvia at events.


Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on March 10, 2006, 08:41:07 AM
I have a question: Is the girl at the very left on the cover of Charlotte Zeepvat´s new book Daisy? I think it looks very much like her...?
(http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0750930748.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on March 10, 2006, 09:50:55 AM
Yes, it is--isn't it a great photo? I think that she's there with Patsy, Arthur and her 4 Battenberg cousins.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on March 10, 2006, 10:35:47 AM
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Yes, it is--isn't it a great photo?


It is indeed. :)
Thus Daisy is both on the cover of "Queen Victoria´s family" and "From Cradle to Crown" - Daisy must be a favourite of Charlotte Zeepvat! ;)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on March 10, 2006, 06:06:57 PM
Here's another of Daisy and Ena together. I wish they had sat near each other so I could've cropped them in a photo like I did with Baby Bee & Ena from Daisy's own wedding.

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/Alexandra21.jpg)
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Post by: grandduchessella on March 11, 2006, 11:45:52 AM
If you look at the caption of the photo it says that it's King George V.  :) Another image from this sitting--with Daisy and QV--that was widely reproduced. It's shown here in sketch form on a contemporary magazine:

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/File1964.jpg)

The was a postcard of the photo up on ebay once and I let the person know that they'd misidentified it as David (Edward VIII). They didn't believe me--despite the links I provided--and were actually quite rude--but I bought it anyway.  :) It was given the same misidentification by another seller for the same image but as a press photo. This time it was the news service which had labelled it as David as well--and this was published during the Abdication apparently. Poor Daisy.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on March 23, 2006, 03:54:56 PM
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(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/File0154aw.jpg)




this is the sweetest photo of Daisy that i have seen ;does anyone know are there other pics taken that day?  :)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on March 31, 2006, 10:31:58 PM
They also took moving pictures during the visit--I think on the same day. QV recorded how amusing it was to have the royals walking slowly back and forth to capture the moving images.  :)

There's a picture, which I can't find of course not matter how much I'm organziing  :(, that shows Daisy and other royals, including Alix, gathered around the Queen in her pony cart. This was the scene that was put on film as well.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: imperial angel on April 06, 2006, 11:30:11 AM
I was in all innocence about this thread until now! I am so happy I found it, I read the whole thing, and the pictures are lovely, and thanks to every one who posted! :) I think her looks were a softer version of Ducky's that is true. I am a great admirer of Ducky's looks. Margaret isn't often mentioned in the annals of the family, she seems to have been delicate, and sweet, certainly, but not remembered as much as she ought to be for her obvious beauty and great qualities.

She seems to be remembered well, but there isn't perhaps enough about her. Her death was a tragedy, and it could be that the reason she is not mentioned as much as she ought to be is because of never being queen, and not having a long life, which is unfair. Daisy certainly seems to have been a very beautiful, gentle, well regarded, woman, with a great temprament, it's just too bad that even in royalty books she isn't mentioned that much.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: imperial angel on April 07, 2006, 08:59:31 AM
Yeah, I loved reading the thread, and thanks for all the great photos Linnea! You posted most of them, and I really enjoyed them. Daisy was one of the less chronicled of Queen Victoria's descendants because of her early death and perhaps delicate, but not overly strong nature. This is wrong, for she was actually quite sweet, and beautiful, and played her role in life well. I hope this thread continues. I was directed here by granduchessella, so thanks to her too! Daisy's name just came up on another thread.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on April 07, 2006, 01:40:47 PM
I too hope the thread will continue - there is so much to discuss! :)
BTW, I read in Tjerneld´s biography on Daisy that she was keen to see Patsy settled down and was quite angry when Patsy refused a German prince in about 1909/10 - does somebody know who this prince was?
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: imperial angel on April 09, 2006, 08:31:56 PM
No, but wasn't there a false engagment report earlier ( about 1903) about Grand Duke Micheal, Nicholas's brother and Patsy? It wasn't accurate, however much it was thought of as a good match.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on April 10, 2006, 05:40:30 AM
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No, but wasn't there a false engagment report earlier ( about 1903) about Grand Duke Micheal, Nicholas's brother and Patsy? It wasn't accurate, however much it was thought of as a good match.

Yeah, I think I have also heard of it - but it was only a canard, wasn´t it? And I agree, it would been marvellous match *if only* ::) - and Daisy would surely have agreed too! ;D
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: imperial angel on April 10, 2006, 08:20:06 AM
It would have been a marvelous match, but there was indeed no substance to it. I think at the time Grand Duke Micheal wished to marry a lady in waiting, (although he didn't), and was not thinking in the direction of Patsy at all.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on April 10, 2006, 08:34:21 AM
And QV would surely not have been happy with a third Russian match among her granddaughters (even if she had passed away by then, but anyway ;)).
 
BTW, does anybody have this three generations picture of Viktoria of Sweden (Daisy´s mother-in-law), Daisy and Edmund bigger?
(http://www.abm.se/leopolds/Kungligheter.AE.images/AE.0893.33182.Victoria.jpg)
 
In "Darling Daisy" there is a very nice 4-generations-picture of Grand Duchess Luise of Baden, Queen Viktoria of Sweden, Daisy and Edmund, but I don´t have a scanner... :( 
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on April 10, 2006, 11:03:06 AM


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It would have been a marvelous match, but there was indeed no substance to it. I think at the time Grand Duke Micheal wished to marry a lady in waiting, (although he didn't), and was not thinking in the direction of Patsy at all.

Never stoped the press though.  ;) I have an old magazine article announcing the engagement of Patsy with Alfonso XIII. Patsy was the subject of a lot of marriage speculation, especially because she was single so much longer than many princesses. I think she was linked to one of Wilhelm II's sons--Adalbert perhaps--as was Alice Albany.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on April 10, 2006, 11:19:47 AM
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In "Darling Daisy" there is a very nice 4-generations-picture of Grand Duchess Luise of Baden, Queen Viktoria of Sweden, Daisy and Edmund, but I don´t have a scanner... :( 

This isn't the one but it's similar. It has those mentioned above plus Gustav Adolf and the Grand Duke of Baden

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/790942aw.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: José on April 10, 2006, 04:06:07 PM
I know that in those days children were to be seen and not heard, and there was hardly any communication between parents and children, but I wanted to know if Daisy's children had a good relation with their step-mother Louise ?

After all Daisy and Louise were cousins and the children had probably met her before.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on April 10, 2006, 05:30:14 PM
There's information on this on the Louise topic here on the Scandinavian forum.

Basically she seems to have had an okay relationship--not great, not horrible. She probably had the hardest time with Ingrid who was very close to her mother and seems to have been rather possessive of her father. There wasn't open animosity between them but not a lot of closeness either. Louise was also a much different character than Daisy who was very open, warm and demonstrative. Louise's relationship seems to have been better with Gustav's grandchildren.

I wonder how many times Louise and Daisy met. Louise mostly lived in England like Daisy but I don't think I've ever seen them in a photo together.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Rebecca on April 11, 2006, 02:22:09 PM
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I know that in those days children were to be seen and not heard, and there was hardly any communication between parents and children, but I wanted to know if Daisy's children had a good relation with their step-mother Louise ?

After all Daisy and Louise were cousins and the children had probably met her before.


[size=14]The relation was not very good, especially between queen Louise and Ingrid (as has been mentioned). The children called Louise "Aunt Louise". Sigvard wrote in his memoirs: "Nej, Ingrid var inte snäll mot Aunt Louise." (Which means: "No, Ingrid was not kind to Aunt Louise".)[/size]
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Rebecca on April 11, 2006, 02:30:30 PM
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I wonder how many times Louise and Daisy met. Louise mostly lived in England like Daisy but I don't think I've ever seen them in a photo together.


[size=14] They did actually meet once in Sweden. :) Though the circumstances were not very happy. It was in November 1914 and Louise had been visiting her relatives in St. Petersburg. She got a telegram telling her to come back home as soon as possible (the war was getting worse), and she travelled back to England via Sweden. She stayed over night as Daisy's and Gustaf Adolf's guest at Drottningholm. It was a very short visit; she continued her journey next day.
 
But it is a little odd that nine years later Louise, who had said she would never marry a) a king, or b) a widower, came back to Sweden, married to the widower Gustaf Adolf, who was to become a king.  ;)
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Post by: Michael_II on April 11, 2006, 06:54:01 PM
Does anyone know what languages Daisy spoke?  Obivously she spoke English and Swedish maybe German since her mother was German.  Seems that most Princesses learned French and maybe even some Italian.
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Post by: Linnea on April 13, 2006, 03:09:14 PM
Daisy spoke English, Swedish (she thought it quite easy to learn) and French, but no German (or at least only little; her brother Arthur couldn´t speak German).
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Post by: Laura_ on April 14, 2006, 03:38:42 AM
thanks Linnea;i was very curious about the answer too -that's great - 3 languages,she was a very intelligent lady ,wasn't she?:)
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Post by: Angie_H on April 15, 2006, 07:15:52 PM
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It's easy to see where she got her nickname (Daisy).
[size=14]Daisy in French is Marguerite
The English version of Marguerite is Margaret
Hence the nickname Daisy[/size]
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Angie_H on April 15, 2006, 07:46:20 PM
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b219/booboogbs3/HenryIreneMayConnaughtgirls.jpg)
Henry of Prussia, Patsy, Irene of Prussia (Hesse), Daisy & May
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Post by: Michael_II on April 16, 2006, 02:24:57 PM
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(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b219/booboogbs3/HenryIreneMayConnaughtgirls.jpg)
Henry of Prussia, Patsy, Irene of Prussia (Hesse), Daisy & May

Is there a date for this photo?  Obviously it was take in Scotland hence Henry's kilt.  And it appears that the ladies are wearing mourning as is the armband on Henry's sleeve.  Possibly mourning for Queen
Victoria. :-/
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Post by: grandduchessella on April 16, 2006, 08:32:21 PM
You can find it in The Golden Book of Royalty by Robert Golden.

The date was actually 1900 and they were wearing mourning for Affie. Irene is seen in several other pictures from this visit--some of which are on the Forum in different threads.
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Post by: Linnea on April 18, 2006, 08:09:24 AM
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Post by: Linnea on April 18, 2006, 08:10:25 AM
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Post by: Linnea on April 18, 2006, 08:11:13 AM
(http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/3392/daisybaby25ef.jpg)(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6727/daisybaby9fd.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on April 18, 2006, 08:27:08 PM
You must really love her hats as well, Laurra.  :)
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Post by: Laura_ on April 19, 2006, 05:06:53 AM
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You must really love her hats as well, Laurra.  :)

i can't believe i forgot to mention the HATS!!!! yes, i do have a thing with those Hats ::) Her hat in the first pic reminds me of one of Missy's hats from a quite known sitting...those fantastic hats were extremlely elegant ...i may seem old-fashioned but i would love to wear a Hat like that one someday ;)[...though,Ena remains The Queen of Hats,there's no one like her from this point of view 8-) 8-) ]
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Post by: imperial angel on April 21, 2006, 12:19:12 PM
I loved seeing those pictures of Margaret in picture hats as well, they are lovely photos, and good examples of the fashions then in hats. Classic, and lovely photos, the hats well suited the woman they were on, I think. I love old hats, and photos of them, and it's too bad they've gone out of fashion.
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Post by: Michael_II on April 21, 2006, 03:36:13 PM
I don't mean to be tacky but are there any pictures of Pss. Margarets lying in state?  I have seen pictures of other members of the Swedish royal family lying in state.  Thanks.
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Post by: Keith on April 21, 2006, 04:20:50 PM
I've actually wondered the same myself. I've never seen any, and thinking as she was around 6 months pregnant at the time of her death, possibly none were taken.
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Post by: grandduchessella on April 21, 2006, 07:20:16 PM
Richard Speaight (sp) who took some of the photos of Daisy as a young girl and also a young mother, recalled a story about her and her hats.

He was taking some photos of her with her 2 eldest children--I think the one showed in post#219--and asked her if she could remove her hat as it was casting some shadows. She replied she would if she could but she'd had her hair dressed specifically around her hat so she wasn't able to.  :) He recalled her fondly.

I've never seen a photo of her lying-in-state but do have a photo of her funeral. I don't have it scanned yet but it's similar to the one in Queen Victoria's Family if anyone has that photo.
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Post by: imperial angel on April 24, 2006, 05:21:44 PM
What a great story! It tells us more about the woman behind the pictures in her lovely hats, with her young kids who were very photogenic. It provides some context to the images. Thanks for posting it.
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Post by: Linnea on May 20, 2006, 02:36:18 PM
Daisy with Mama and sibblings
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6828/louisemargaretvanconnaught7jq.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Angie_H on June 04, 2006, 03:12:42 PM
Sorry if this question has been asked. How did Margaret get along with her sister in law Maria Pavlovna Jr. of Russia?
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Post by: Keith on June 04, 2006, 04:08:39 PM
In her memoirs, Marie mentions that Margaret put together ice hockey teams and they played practically every day. She mentions the last time the two met, when Margaret brought Marie her jewels. She says she had kept the pleasantest of memories of Margaret. She was taken back by how she had changed since the last time they met. Margaret looked thin and worn. Margaret showed Marie much kindness during the stay (in London) and they talked about many things which previously had never been alluded to. She mentions how her death was  profoundly regretted by the Swedish people, who had learned to love and appreciate her.

I've never read anything on Margaret's feelings, but it seems as if the two got on well enough. My take is, Margaret always tried to find the best in people.
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Post by: grandduchessella on June 04, 2006, 09:49:24 PM
I think it was also mentioned that Daisy helped to attend to Marie at the birth of Lennart.
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Post by: Svetabel on June 05, 2006, 01:29:33 PM
Some sources says that Margareth and Maria Pavlovna did not get along well. Russian Count Ignatiev  in his memoirs dissaproved Maria Pavlovna's behaviour, he considered the young princess too much frivolous,light-hearted person with the clownish  manners. He retailed Maria's words about Princess Daisy: as though Maria put Daisy down for a fool and that Daisy was envious of Maria's success in the Swedish society. :-/  
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Post by: imperial angel on September 10, 2006, 06:50:58 PM
It is hard to tell. Marie Pavolovna never found herself at home in Sweden the way that Margaret did. She didn't like it nor her husband, and felt she had been forced into the marriage. Margaret was a sweet good natured person, who did try to find the best in people. Marie Pavolovna at that time wasn't happy nor in her element, and that might have led to some trouble.
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Post by: Daniela on October 03, 2006, 05:43:08 AM
On the photo posted by Laurra, showing Queen Victoria, Crown Princess Margareth and the baby, they are looking so good. But in reality Queen Victoria wasn't very fond with Margareth, right? :-\

Daniela
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Post by: Linnea on October 03, 2006, 05:56:06 AM
Well, Daisy wasn´t German, so Victoria couldn´t be too fond of her. ;)
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Post by: grandduchessella on October 03, 2006, 10:03:37 AM
It was written that they bonded during WW1 as, despite the fact that Daisy was pro-British and QV pro-German, they worked together on behalf of the Red Cross and POW/MIA issues.

And while Daisy was an English princess, her mother, Louise, was a Prussian princess so they had some common relatives.  :)
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Post by: Linnea on October 03, 2006, 02:24:23 PM
Well, both had Prussian mothers, however this fact wasn´t as important to Daisy as it was to Victoria, who was very proud to be the granddaughter of the German Emperor.
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Post by: imperial angel on October 04, 2006, 10:01:27 AM
No, I don't think Daisy had particular pride in her Prussian roots. How did she feel about the homeland of her mother, given World War I, and the fact that although much of royalty had German blood, it became unfashionable to admit it? What did she think of Germany in the World War I years in a personal way? Sorry of these questions have been asked before, I just thought in depth exploration would be interesting.
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Post by: grandduchessella on October 04, 2006, 08:22:54 PM
I don't believe she had much connection to her Prussian roots. Her maternal grandfather was a horrible person, abusive to his family, and her mother was glad to escape into QV's extended family. I don't think I've ever even seen pictures of Daisy or her siblings with her Prussian relatives. Of her mother's siblings Marie died in 1888; Elisabeth in 1895; only her only brother Friedrich Leopold lived into Daisy's adulthood, dying in 1931.

Nonetheless, I think having common relatives helped ease the tension that arose from having different sympathies during WW1--they each understood divided loyalties and the desire to help bridge the gap between warring relatives. It was through Daisy that many relatives, caught on opposite sides, were able to receive news of the other.
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Post by: imperial angel on October 05, 2006, 11:27:09 AM
Thanks! I think Daisy was kind of a balanced person, although perhaps it was easier for her to be nuetral given she didn't have much connection to her Prussian roots. Technically, Daisy was half German, although she certainly had more German blood than just that in her veins. But I think she was level headed, and in a level headed country. That was rather a rarity in World War I.
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Post by: Linnea on October 06, 2006, 01:55:15 PM
Technically, Daisy was half German, although she certainly had more German blood than just that in her veins.

Well, technichally all 19th century royals very 100% Germans. ;)
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Post by: imperial angel on October 09, 2006, 11:59:46 AM
Yes, that is very true. It wasn't just Coburg that was the place that most countries came for brides, although didn't Coburg have some special name or something in particular?
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Post by: grandduchessella on October 09, 2006, 04:31:17 PM
It was once referred to as 'the stud farm of Europe' for the handsome, marriageable princes.
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Post by: Daniela on October 11, 2006, 04:58:33 AM
I was wondering, how did Duke of Connaught and his daughter Patsy felt, when Gustaf married Luise of Battenberg? How did they took it?
And after Daisy's death how close relationship was, between Ingrid and her siblings and their maternal grandparents or lets say grandfather?

Thanks

Daniela
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Post by: imperial angel on October 11, 2006, 12:03:50 PM
I believe they took his remarriage ok. I thought he wanted to marry somebody else before he married Louise though, perhaps I am wrong? I think not expecting him to remarry wasn't very realistic, and as well marrying a royal relation was to be expected. His country needed a queen, and his children were rather young at the time of his wife's death.
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Post by: imperial angel on October 11, 2006, 05:33:27 PM
Thanks for the information. I had never read that before about Ingrid and her maternal grandfather. You learn something new all the time. :)
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Post by: grandduchessella on October 11, 2006, 11:12:39 PM
Their relationship seems to have been particularly close though he was close to all his Swedish grandchildren. There are numerous pictures of them taken together and the British magazines took an interest as well. Patsy maintained a close relationship as well and was present at a good number of Swedish, and later Danish, events. She left some jewelry to Ingrid's daughter, her sister's namesake, Queen Margarethe (also called Daisy in the family).

Prince Arthur was supposedly a bit upset at the news of the remarriage coming just 3 years after his daughter's death. I think he absented himself from Britain when the announcement was given but I'm not sure.
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Post by: Daniela on October 12, 2006, 05:21:05 AM
On the photo posted by Linnea, I can see a great resemblance between Ingrid and her grandfather, don't you think?

Daniela
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Post by: imperial angel on October 12, 2006, 11:22:43 AM
Well, yes. I don't think Ingrid looked much like her mother though. Thank you for all the information on Ingrid and her grandfather. I much appreciate reading it. :)
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Post by: Linnea on October 12, 2006, 11:30:39 AM
I don't think Ingrid looked much like her mother though.

Which was a pity, IMO! ;) But anyway Ingrid was quite pretty too.
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Post by: imperial angel on October 12, 2006, 12:16:47 PM
Yes, indeed! Margareth was so beautiful though, and I guess I like her looks better..
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Post by: grandduchessella on October 12, 2006, 02:30:52 PM
I think you could see some of Daisy in Ingrid but it's a highly subjective thing. I think that you can even see some of her in her great-granddaughter Alexia of Greece. When she married,  I thought I could see the resemblance especially even though she looks more like her father than her mother (Daisy's graddaughter) in general.
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Post by: Linnea on October 13, 2006, 05:55:33 AM
In my opinion none of Daisy´s granddaughters inherited much of her looks.

Daisy giving Ingrid a piggyback ride
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4012/daisyingridiw2.jpg)
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Post by: imperial angel on October 13, 2006, 09:34:53 AM
That is a lovely, informal image of Daisy and Ingrid. How old was Ingrid when Daisy died again? I think as well that it is highly subjective to find much of Daisy's looks in Ingrid. I am not sure who Daisy did resemble, but it was not really her mother.
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Post by: Linnea on October 13, 2006, 12:42:06 PM
She was ten when Daisy died.
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Post by: imperial angel on October 13, 2006, 03:54:46 PM
So Ingrid was quite young at the time of her mother's death, but old enough to remember her as well. What memories did she have of her, does anyone know specifically? I am sure that all of them were happy ones, but I am just curious about specifics.
Margareth was a sweet person, and a great mother. Whenever I think of her as a mother, I think of her as she is in that photo of Charlotte Zeepvat's Queen Victoria's Family with her children in her arms. I hope you know the photo I refer to.
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Post by: grandduchessella on October 15, 2006, 11:45:40 PM
I don't know specific memories but she was significantly attached--enough so that she, of all the children, had the most difficult time accepting Louise as a stepmother and had the tensest relationship with her.
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Post by: imperial angel on October 16, 2006, 12:27:28 PM
I think that is very interesting about her, that it was hard for to accept her mother's death. That says something about her. Can someone post that photo I refer to in my last post? I am not so great at posting photos, and that is such a lovely image, and very expressive of Daisy as a mother.
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Post by: imperial angel on October 16, 2006, 03:28:40 PM
The last one you posted! That one is Margareth as a mother to me; it is such a lovely image. It is one if the loveliest images I have seen in all of royalty photos. ;) You can see the love between her and her children.
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Post by: Linnea on November 03, 2006, 02:20:24 PM
Some sources says that Margareth and Maria Pavlovna did not get along well. 

To quote Maria Pavlovna herself: "What an awful thought: Having to spend my life with this young old man and having to live in the middle of this idiotic family!" She most likely didn´t think to highly of Margareta although she (Margareta) had done a lot for her like caring for her child when Maria P. went abroad etc. :-\
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Post by: imperial angel on November 03, 2006, 04:40:54 PM
I am not sure Marie P thought very highly of anybody. It seems to have been her personality that she did not care too much about anybody, except herself at times. She even thought badly of how Ella was a stepmother to her, and everybody knows how sweet Ella's personality was! Margareth was quite nice too, so it must have been just Marie P's view or different personalities, perhaps. Is that quote from her autobiography, or not? I read it, but I can't remember. Who is the man Marie P is refering to?
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Post by: Linnea on November 03, 2006, 04:52:23 PM
No this quote is out of a German biography on Maria P.

Maria P. did think highly of intelligent and educated people and it seems as if she thought that Daisy was neither.


Who is the man Marie P is refering to?

Her husband Vilhelm of course. ;)
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Post by: Svetabel on November 04, 2006, 04:18:59 AM
I am not sure Marie P thought very highly of anybody.

She thought very highly of many people  - just read her memoirs.
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Post by: royal_netherlands on November 05, 2006, 01:46:25 PM
Just a few of ''Daisy'' (wonderfull thread)

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/opzich/Royals%20past%20and%20present/81272_128176.jpg)
Queen Victoria photographed with Princess Margaret of Connaught. (Daisy is not looking that happy with ""Granmama" holding her that tight.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/opzich/Royals%20past%20and%20present/81607_128511.jpg)
Princesses Daisy and Patricia of Connaught.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/opzich/Royals%20past%20and%20present/81610_128514.jpg)
Duke of Connaught and family.
Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught with his wife and family.

RN

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/opzich/Royals%20past%20and%20present/81609_128513.jpg)
The Connaughts in 1883.
Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught with his wife, Princess Luise Margarete of Prussia and their two elder children,     Princess Margaret "Daisy" of Connaught and Prince Arthur of Connaught in Scotland, 1883.     



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Post by: royal_netherlands on November 05, 2006, 01:49:10 PM
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/opzich/Royals%20past%20and%20present/81482_128386.jpg)
Confirmation of Princess Margaret of Connaught.


(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/opzich/Royals%20past%20and%20present/81545_128449.jpg)
Princess Margaret of Connaught with her son.


(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/opzich/Royals%20past%20and%20present/81539_128443.jpg)
The Duke of Connaught with his granddaughter.

RN

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Post by: imperial angel on November 06, 2006, 12:37:25 PM
No this quote is out of a German biography on Maria P.

Maria P. did think highly of intelligent and educated people and it seems as if she thought that Daisy was neither.


Who is the man Marie P is refering to?

Her husband Vilhelm of course. ;)

I think that Marie P did like many, but it seems that she disliked more people than she liked. Daisy was perhaps not much of an intellectual, but she seems to have been a very nice person, and intelligent. So Marie P was being unfair about Daisy, in my opinion. Thank you for sharing that quote. :)
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Post by: imperial angel on November 15, 2006, 01:10:24 PM
I am not sure Marie P thought very highly of anybody.

She thought very highly of many people  - just read her memoirs.
My point was, that everyone obviously gets along with some people ( one would hope), but that Marie P seemed to have more trouble with that than others. She seems to have thought highly of a few, and disagreed with more. I think she and Margareth were sad people not to get along, and that on Margareth's side, there was really nothing holding it back, so it would had to have been Marie P. Margareth was one of the most photogenic of Queen Victoria's relatives, because she wasn't as stunning as some of them, but her beauty and life are just so apparent from those photos, it is like it could be any mother and her children, not just her, not even a royal mother in that era.
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Post by: Laura_ on November 27, 2006, 07:02:23 AM
(http://img34.imagevenue.com/loc511/th_32042_m197501111432_122_511lo.jpg) (http://img34.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=32042_m197501111432_122_511lo.jpg)   (http://img17.imagevenue.com/loc460/th_32048_m197501111442_122_460lo.jpg) (http://img17.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=32048_m197501111442_122_460lo.jpg)

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Post by: imperial angel on November 27, 2006, 08:44:48 AM
Is that Margareth ice skating? She certainly looks happy, and like she was good at it. She is so beauitiful there. Judgung from what she is wearing, this photo looks like it was taken in the 1910s. Where does it come from, do you know? Thanks for it, since it is one the loveliest Royal photos I have ever seen.
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Post by: grandduchessella on November 27, 2006, 09:05:46 AM
Yes, she's skating. She was quite proficient at it and enjoyed almost all of the winter sports that she had such opportunity to partake of in Sweden--sledding, skiing, skating. There's a photo of her skating with some of her royal relations c.1908-9, including Alice Albany.

The photo is from the Chausseau-Flaviens collection located online. Many of his photos were published (including the skating ones) in L'Illustration magazine--the French version of the Illustrated London News.
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Post by: Laura_ on November 27, 2006, 09:16:57 AM
Is that Margareth ice skating? She certainly looks happy, and like she was good at it. She is so beauitiful there. Judgung from what she is wearing, this photo looks like it was taken in the 1910s. Where does it come from, do you know? Thanks for it, since it is one the loveliest Royal photos I have ever seen.

you're welcome :) i'm glad you like it since its one of my favourites royal photos too :)
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Post by: Svetabel on November 29, 2006, 02:31:31 PM
No, it´s a close-up of a group photo which you can find in Prince Michael´s "Family Albums".

It's a very rare photo, I saw it in one of the books on the Romanovs, but it was a small picture :(
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Post by: Zesarewitsch on December 19, 2006, 02:33:54 AM
Who has photos of HM Gustaf VI Adolf, King of Sweden (1950-1973)?
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Post by: Zesarewitsch on December 19, 2006, 03:01:48 AM
I found a video of Gustaf VI Adolf: http://www.gallerimagasin.com/film005.mov
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Post by: carl fraley on January 02, 2007, 10:25:00 PM
excellent video.... Is that HM Queen Louise with him?
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Post by: LenelorMiksi on February 17, 2007, 07:23:09 PM
from one of QV's tableaux

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/img682w.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/File1952w.jpg)

Who is the child to the left on the bottom photo?
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Post by: grandduchessella on February 17, 2007, 08:37:09 PM
Margaret's brother, Prince Arthur.
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Post by: Laura_ on February 18, 2007, 06:07:42 AM
i think that as a child ,Margaret was the cutest of all QVs grandchidren  :)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Michael II on February 22, 2007, 03:14:41 PM
Did Crown Prince Gustav and Crown Princess Margareth ever make any official visits outside Sweden?  Also did Margareth attend the funeral of her mother in 1917?  and did she attend the wedding of her sister Patrica in 1919?  I seem to have read that she was not in favor of her
choice of a husband.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on February 22, 2007, 03:30:59 PM
The whole Swedish royal family visited Baden (or better: the grand ducal family of Baden) in autumn 1906 - even little Gustav Adolf joined the party. I think the occasion was the golden wedding anniversary of Crown Princess Viktoria´s (née princess of Baden) parents.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 22, 2007, 05:55:46 PM
Did Crown Prince Gustav and Crown Princess Margareth ever make any official visits outside Sweden?  Also did Margareth attend the funeral of her mother in 1917?  and did she attend the wedding of her sister Patrica in 1919?  I seem to have read that she was not in favor of her
choice of a husband.

She was at Patsy's wedding and Ingrid was an attendant. She was also present for Arthur's wedding in 1913. She wasn't present at the Duchess's funeral in 1917, probably due to the war.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 22, 2007, 06:20:40 PM
Daisy had laid out her wishes regarding her funeral back in 1914. She wished for her bridal veil to be used to cover her until the coffin was closed and then her wedding dress to be used to create the shroud. Also that a crucifix be placed in her hands and the simple oak coffin (her choice) be covered with the English and Swedish flags. She wished for no lying-in-state and no display of her orders. For flowers, she wanted lillies of all sorts.

There was a memorial service for her in England that was attended by George V, Queen Mary, the Duke of Connaught (too elderly to make the trip to Sweden, Prince Arthur represented her family), Princess Patricia, Pss Mary, Prince Albert, Princess Maud (Fife), Princess Arthur (Princess Alexandra), Princess Christian, Princess Louise (Argyll), Duchess of Albany, Pss Beatrice, Princess Alice & Earl of Athlone, Princess Helena Victoria, Princess Marie Louise and Leopold Mountbatten. Queen Alexandra had been indisposed for several weeks and didn't come per the Duke's specific request (concern for her health) and her doctor's recommendations.

Her Swedish funeral was attended by (apart from her immediate family) her father-in-law, King Gustav, as well as the Kings of Denmark (Christian X) and Norway (Haakon), Prince Arthur of Connaught, and Prince Gustav of Denmark (representing Queen Louise).
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on February 22, 2007, 06:29:08 PM
Thanks for that info gdella. I had never heard that before. I had seen a photo of the funeral cortage, and only noticed Prince Arthur. I was wondering why the Duke wasn't present. I guess Patsy stayed in England to be with her father.

I'm not sure, but I think I had read somewhere they had a visit to the USA planned for 1914, but cancelled due to the war.

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/DaisyinBaden.jpg)

1906 Baden visit.

It's probably been mentioned on here, but Daisy and her Mother-in-law were both first cousins of the Kaiser.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on February 22, 2007, 10:25:24 PM
I think we discussed it on the thread before--or anothe thread. Mostly in relation to their divergent views on WW1 but how they were able to set them aside, for the most part, to do the best by POWs and the wounded.

The Illustrated London News had several photos of the funeral.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Eddie_uk on February 23, 2007, 08:22:03 AM

There was a memorial service for her in England that was attended by George V, Queen Mary, the Duke of Connaught (too elderly to make the trip to Sweden, Prince Arthur represented her family), Princess Patricia, Pss Mary, Prince Albert, Princess Maud (Fife), Princess Arthur (Princess Alexandra), Princess Christian, Princess Louise (Argyll), Duchess of Albany, Pss Beatrice, Princess Alice & Earl of Athlone, Princess Helena Victoria, Princess Marie Louise and Leopold Mountbatten. Queen Alexandra had been indisposed for several weeks and didn't come per the Duke's specific request (concern for her health) and her doctor's recommendations.


The Royal Family really was out in force on that occasion! How nice. Must have been a marvellous site.  :)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on February 26, 2007, 12:09:53 PM
thank you Linnea,thats a sad pic   :( is the girl in white Ingrid ?
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on February 26, 2007, 01:25:20 PM
Yes, the child left of Gustav is Ingrid.
I think she was the first royal female to attend a funeral procession.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on April 22, 2007, 02:57:32 AM
here's a nice pic  :) clik on it to enlarge!

http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/eGallery/object.asp?category=EAPHOTOGRAPHS&object=2904382&row=52&detail=magnify
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Iskenderbey on April 26, 2007, 09:31:32 AM
It is quite interesting to note that after viewing many of the photos of Princess Margareth, it is uncanny how much her genes have been passed down to her descendants.  For instance, you can see the round/fullness of face in her daughter Ingrid and her granddaughter, Anne-Marie of Greece (especially when she first married King Tino), and even in her greek great-granddaughters, Alexia and Theodora.  I always wondered where these last two got their round/full faces, and after viewing these pics, it is quite clear.

(I have a thing for seeing how people resemble their parents & ancestors, so pardon me, lol)

Thanks!
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: XJaseyRaeX on May 19, 2007, 09:08:00 PM
hey guys...i noticed there wasn't a topic on all of Margarethes children...so i thought i would start one...and post a few pics

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/mashka1899/swedish%20royal%20family/r9393.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/mashka1899/swedish%20royal%20family/diekindervonsweden.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/mashka1899/swedish%20royal%20family/2601.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/mashka1899/swedish%20royal%20family/25399.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/mashka1899/swedish%20royal%20family/ingridofsweden2138971.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/mashka1899/swedish%20royal%20family/246121.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/mashka1899/swedish%20royal%20family/54w908t756.jpg)

Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Duke of New Jersey on June 17, 2007, 09:29:38 AM
Princess Margaret (and her mother-in-law) were the ones who passed letters and telegams back between Russia and Germany and Germany and England.  I believe that how Empress Alexandra's letters got to her brother Ernest and that is how the Kaiser passed an aniversary telegram to his aunt and uncle, Prince and Princess Christian.  They were very active in this way and as mentioned before in trying to help POW's. 

-Duke of NJ
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: zolishka on August 11, 2007, 04:12:10 AM
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/likeafly/sverige/roy6.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/likeafly/sverige/roy5.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/likeafly/sverige/roy4.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/likeafly/sverige/roy3.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/likeafly/sverige/roy2.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/likeafly/sverige/roy1.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: XJaseyRaeX on August 11, 2007, 08:58:44 PM
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/mashka1899/swedish%20royal%20family/0594_1_sblingridandcarljohann.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/mashka1899/swedish%20royal%20family/872a_1_sbl.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/mashka1899/swedish%20royal%20family/2003051910475466ue.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/mashka1899/swedish%20royal%20family/SF37236.jpg)


(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/mashka1899/swedish%20royal%20family/SF37120.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/mashka1899/swedish%20royal%20family/25399.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on September 20, 2007, 06:00:40 AM
Margareth with her children

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a399/linnea12/daisy16.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a399/linnea12/daisy12.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a399/linnea12/daisy14.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a399/linnea12/daisy15.jpg)

Although Margareth was a very modern mother for royal standards she was very much a British princess in the way she treated the staff.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Eddie_uk on September 21, 2007, 03:34:24 PM
Thank you Linnea!! How did she treat her staff??
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Adagietto on October 13, 2007, 01:43:33 PM
One or two pictures that I don't think we've had, or at least aren't there now. Margaret and husband in Baden with Victoria, visiting Victoria's mother the Grand Duchess:
(http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/4715/2020062210100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)
There is something of a competition here between Margaret and the Queen in the flowery hat stakes!

Before her marriage. At this age, she was almost as beautiful as her sister Patricia, though she has a somewhat fuller face:
(http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/23872/2894049950100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)

And later  as Crown Princess (a very familiar photograph but it makes an interesting comparison with the previous):
(http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/6067/2028523050100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)

A card celebrating her arrival in Sweden:
(http://inlinethumb37.webshots.com/24292/2873691620100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)

One of my favourite family pictures of her, hope it's not a repeat:
(http://inlinethumb54.webshots.com/21429/2279318810100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)

Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Lucien on October 31, 2007, 07:48:23 AM
QV's only surviving great-grandchild Carl Johan,Count av Wisborg,néé Prince Carl Johan Arthur of Sweden,Duke of Dalarna,celebrates his 91st birthday today.
 :)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: maxofsweden on May 13, 2008, 08:52:01 AM

The Crown princess and her hockey team. She is 5th from left.

(http://hem.bredband.net/b628321/36..JPG)

The Crown prince couple with princes Gustaf Adolf and Sigvard

(http://hem.bredband.net/b628321/35..JPG)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: maxofsweden on May 13, 2008, 03:38:18 PM

Crownprincess Victoria, her mother Grand duchess Luise of Baden and Prince Gustaf Adolf, 1883.
(http://hem.bredband.net/b628321/12.QVGDLGA.JPG)

From left Prince Gustaf Adolf (later King Gustaf VI Adolf) Crown princess Victoria with Prince Erik and Prince Wilhelm, 1891.
(http://hem.bredband.net/b628321/13.QV.JPG)

From left: Princes Erik, Wilhelm and Gustaf Adolf, 1897.
(http://hem.bredband.net/b628321/16.GAWE.JPG)

Gustaf Adolf,
(http://hem.bredband.net/b628321/34..JPG)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Adagietto on May 21, 2008, 05:23:48 AM
Such a decorous hockey team!

Margaret and husband in a rather wonderful boat (Can anyone say anything about it? Has it survived?):
(http://inlinethumb02.webshots.com/7937/2603797770100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on May 21, 2008, 07:27:04 AM
Adagietto--some of Speaight's work (referenced on the CPss Cecile thread earlier)

courtesy of Keith:

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/Daisyandboys.jpg)

with her two eldest sons
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on May 21, 2008, 07:34:27 AM
From Gem10

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/lunarmaiden10/bx149.jpg)

Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Adagietto on May 21, 2008, 08:23:40 AM
Thank you so much! I have a couple of these but the photographer is not identified on the card in my copies. They are indeed attractive; the first, which I hadn't seen before, is particularly nice I think.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: maxofsweden on May 23, 2008, 01:21:23 PM
Such a decorous hockey team!

Margaret and husband in a rather wonderful boat (Can anyone say anything about it? Has it survived?):
(http://inlinethumb02.webshots.com/7937/2603797770100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)


This barge (I hope this is correct word, in swedish we say slup, as sloop) named Wasaorden, was built in 1774 by af Chapman. It's driven by 9 pairs of oars. It was used mostly for special occassions such as state visits, at weddings et c. It was destroyed in a fire 1921, but a copy was made in 1923 which is still in use, especially for those visitors who is coming by the sea, like the tsar did, nowadays EIIR for example.

And of course it was used at he royal wedding in 1976.

(http://hem.bredband.net/b628321/52417386_1.jpg)

(http://hem.bredband.net/b628321/400px-Royal_barge_Vasaorden.JPG)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Adagietto on May 23, 2008, 03:44:14 PM
Thank you again, it's magnificent. What a shame, though, that the original barge should have been destroyed in that way after having survived since the 18th Century. I don't think we've got anything left like that in England, though they did have royal barges to take the monarchs up and down the Thames.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Norbert on May 24, 2008, 02:52:53 PM
Yes there is a magnificent barge on display in the basement of Somerset House in London
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Luc on July 16, 2008, 10:47:30 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/grandduchessella/margaretbritain1882-611.jpg)

Louise, Daisy & Patsy at EVII's coronation:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/grandduchessella/10085171a1.jpg)

Does anyone know (on the first pic) on which occasion Daisy this court dress wore ?
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on July 21, 2008, 06:51:52 PM
As a baby

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/scan0019.jpg)

With grandfather Grand Duke of Baden

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/Gustavandgrandfather.jpg)

With mother and brother Wilhelm

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/scan0031.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on July 21, 2008, 07:02:11 PM
Crown Princess Victoria, Gustav, Wilhelm, Grand Duke and Duchess of Baden

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/ThreeGenerationsSwedish.jpg)

With brother Wilhelm

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/ThreeGenerations.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on July 21, 2008, 07:08:10 PM
With brothers Erik and Wilhelm

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/GustavErikWilhelm.jpg)

in 1898

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/Gustav1898.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: XJaseyRaeX on July 22, 2008, 10:17:12 AM
AMAZING photo's Keith!
i have never seen pictures of little Gustav before this!
thanks sooo much!
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on July 22, 2008, 06:18:12 PM
I'm glad you enjoyed them.

At time of engagement to Margaret:

Luise, Arthur, Gustaf, Daisy and Patsy

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/scan0021.jpg)

Daisy and Gustaf

These are from a book that is in Swedish, so I'm guessing this was taken on their way to Sweden from honeymoon

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/scan0030.jpg)

 
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on July 22, 2008, 06:23:02 PM
Proud parents with their first born

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/SwedishRoyals1906.jpg)

Gustaf and Daisy playing with Bertil

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/scan0034.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on July 22, 2008, 06:34:32 PM
1909 - ?,Wilhelm, Daisy, Gustav V, Ingeborg, Martha, Gustaf, Margaretha

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/Sweden1909.jpg)

Skating with sister-in-law Patsy 1909

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/scan0039.jpg)

Daisy and Gustaf 1918

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/scan0035.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on July 25, 2008, 11:16:55 AM
With daughter Ingrid

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/scan0033.jpg)

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/scan0037.jpg)

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/scan0038.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Adagietto on September 28, 2008, 05:43:33 PM
(http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/43433/2678044750100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)

(http://inlinethumb03.webshots.com/8066/2790297330100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)

(http://inlinethumb27.webshots.com/43866/2983033500100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)

In Baden with mother and grandmother:
(http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/4715/2020062210100532270S600x600Q85.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Rebecca on October 03, 2008, 08:40:59 AM
She is not really a princess. Her maiden name was Lindberg. She married count Sigvard Bernadotte af Wisborg in 1961, as his third wife (she had also been married previously). Sigvard was born 1907 as the second son of prince Gustaf Adolf and his wife princess Margareta, née princess Margaret of Connaught. Gustaf Adolf later became king, as Gustaf VI Adolf. Sigvard lost his princely title in 1934 when he married his first wife, a German lady by the name of Erika Patzek. They later divorced. Some time after marrying Marianne, Sigvard began a struggle to have his princely title restored but it was unsuccessful.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Labuanbajo on October 05, 2008, 10:49:33 AM
Thanks for the report, Rebecca! Should I write to the New York Times and ask them to publish a correction about Marianne's title or just let the countess enjoy the fantasy of being a princess?
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Rebecca on October 05, 2008, 12:35:05 PM
She is 84 years old, so maybe it would be a good deed to let her dream... ;-)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Norbert on October 05, 2008, 01:22:46 PM
 She is  his 3rd wife , former actress and interested in juvenile eye care. Much more respectable than Erica who ended her career in the underground nightclubs of Berlin as "the Swedish Princess".  Sigvard impertinately  styled himself Prince after his nephews marriage.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Labuanbajo on October 09, 2008, 11:24:38 AM
Did Sigvard lose his royal status because of a constitutional or legal prohibition against his marrying a commoner or was it just the custom of the Bernadotte House?

Carl XVI married Silvia when he was already a king, so perhaps he gave himself permission.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Norbert on October 09, 2008, 12:21:17 PM
yes, he lost his rights for a low marriage. Quite right too as Erika was particularly unsavoury. I believe the King escaped this, as he alone is above the law
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Luc on December 29, 2008, 12:20:35 PM
from one of QV's tableaux

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/img682w.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/File1952w.jpg)

Where did you get these photos from, GDella ? Are they from a book ???
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on December 29, 2008, 03:44:14 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/grandduchessella/margaretbritain1882-611.jpg)

Louise, Daisy & Patsy at EVII's coronation:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/grandduchessella/10085171a1.jpg)

Does anyone know (on the first pic) on which occasion Daisy this court dress wore ?

I think it was her formal presentation at court.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on December 29, 2008, 03:45:03 PM
from one of QV's tableaux

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/img682w.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/File1952w.jpg)

Where did you get these photos from, GDella ? Are they from a book ???


I forget where the first one was from but the 2nd is from an old magazine article I have.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Luc on January 05, 2009, 04:35:20 AM
A beautiful portrait:
Princess Margaret of Connaught in 1885 by Carl Sohn:
http://royalcollection.org.uk/eGallery/object.asp?recent=Y&pagesize=20&object=407224&row=739
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on January 05, 2009, 11:27:59 AM
from one of QV's tableaux

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/img682w.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/scandinavian/File1952w.jpg)

Where did you get these photos from, GDella ? Are they from a book ???


I forget where the first one was from but the 2nd is from an old magazine article I have.

I believe that I have seen the first one in "Darling Daisy" by Steffan Tjerneld.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: tecklenburg on January 08, 2009, 01:34:08 PM
hi everybody !
I would like to know what were the jobs of the following princes of sweden or Bernadotte . Could someone help me ?

king Gustaf VI Adolfs sons : - Gustaf Adolf, Duke of Västerbotten
                                      - Carl Johann, Duke of Dalarna (later known as Carl Johann Bernadotte)
I know that HRH Duke of Halland (Bertil) served in navy, and HRH Duke of Uppland (Sigvard Bernadotte) was a famous designer. Did he take part to army as a young man?
what about Carl Oskar Bernadotte ? (son of Gustaf, Duke of Götland)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Erika on January 10, 2009, 04:51:25 AM
Hi!

I think I will be able to answer some of your questions...


Gustaf Adolf was born on the 22 of April 1906 as heir to the Swedish throne and died on the 26 of january in a plane crash.
Gustaf Adolf went to the school "Lundbergs skola" from 1918-1924 and graduated in 1925 at the Royal Palace in Stockholm.
After that he went to Karlberg, an officer school, and became a lieutenant at the Svea Livgarde. He then went to Krigshögskolan (War Collage) were he became a captain. He then devoted his professional life to the brigade service.    

Carl Johann Bernadotte was born in 1916 and is still alive. He lost his title when he married a Swedish journalist. He worked as a businessman.

Sigvard did not serve in the army as a young man. He was the first Bernadotte with an acedemic exam.

The only Carl Oskar Bernadotte I know of is Carl Oscar Berndotte, son of prince (count) Oscar Bernadotte and Ebba Munck of Fulkila. He was born in 1890 and died in 1977. I don't know what his profession was.

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Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Svetabel on July 25, 2009, 08:34:12 AM
Crownprincess Margareth in 1914 by Oskar Bjorck

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/byOBjorck1914.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on September 07, 2009, 11:15:52 AM
Princess Margaret of Connaught (1882-1920)
Painted  by Carl Rudolph Sohn (1845-1908) for Queen Victoria --[1885]

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/443/407224.jpg) (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/407224.jpg/)

http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/egallery/object.asp?maker=12271&object=407224&row=6
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Linnea on September 09, 2009, 11:54:17 AM
Crownprincess Margareth in 1914 by Oskar Bjorck

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/byOBjorck1914.jpg

A small correction: Björck - who was a good friend of Prince Eugen btw -, painted Margareta in 1909 in her appartment in the Stockholm Slott, where this painting still is shown to the public.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Marc on September 10, 2009, 01:48:29 PM
Crownprincess Margareth in 1914 by Oskar Bjorck



Lovely portrait,although not very flattering face expression in my own opinion :(
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on September 23, 2009, 03:45:18 PM
Princess Margaret of Connaught (1882-1920)
Painted  by Carl Rudolph Sohn (1845-1908) for Queen Victoria --[1885]

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/443/407224.jpg) (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/407224.jpg/)

http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/egallery/object.asp?maker=12271&object=407224&row=6
All the images that you posted are really beautiful, but this is the nicest of them! She was a lovely girl
And when she beacame a woman she was very beautiful and elegant ;-)
the last one is beutiful too!!
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on September 23, 2009, 04:01:43 PM
Margaret had such a beautiful smile...

With her husband Gustav in their honeymoon

(http://i34.tinypic.com/2entjli.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: grandduchessella on September 23, 2009, 09:39:48 PM
This was as they arrived by boat into Stockholm--to a rapturous greeting.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: KarlandZita on November 16, 2009, 02:52:19 PM
Kronprinsessan Margareta :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/2.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/1.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/3.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/4.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/5.jpg)

Margareta and her son Carl Johan :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/6.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/7.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Kalafrana on November 17, 2009, 07:18:27 AM
Her husband has a nice smile as well.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on November 17, 2009, 07:26:52 AM
yes, a very warm smile which matched with his warm and "close to the people" personality =)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Yelena Aleksandrovna on November 17, 2009, 03:31:21 PM
She looks very beautiful with her wedding gown and in the other photos that KarlandZita
posted!!! Lovely!!
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: KarlandZita on December 05, 2009, 08:04:34 AM
Margareta and Gustav Adolph :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/fdr.jpg)

Margareta handing a cup :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/mrgacoup.jpg)

Margareta with her daughter Ingrid :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/ingwmoth.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: KarlandZita on December 06, 2009, 07:34:45 AM
Margareth and Gustav Adolphe in 1905 :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/gam.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/1905.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: KarlandZita on December 13, 2009, 11:34:06 AM
Margareta with her husband and her son :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/2gustavmarg.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/pm.jpg)

With one of her sons :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/maguadolf.jpg)

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/mmedbarn.jpg)

Margareta and Pricness Ingrid :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/pmaingrid.jpg)

With her husband in Italy :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/mgainitaly.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on December 13, 2009, 11:55:30 AM
Beautiful images!!!!! Thank you KarlandZita for sharing with us!!!!!
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on December 13, 2009, 12:04:19 PM
I love the last one of Gustav and Daisy in Capri *0*
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: KarlandZita on December 21, 2009, 03:13:08 PM
Sweet picture of Princess Margaret with her daughter Ingrid :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/margaretamedingrid.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: KarlandZita on January 01, 2010, 04:22:23 PM
Margareta, Gustav Adolf and their two eldest sons :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/msg.jpg)

Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: KarlandZita on January 20, 2010, 01:40:45 PM
Margareta, Ingrid, Bertil :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/margaretaingridbertil.jpg)

Margareta in court dress :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/marg.jpg)

Gustav Adolf, Margareta and baby Ingrid :

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/pastroyals/Sweden%20Royals/Bernadotte%20Family/gami.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: KarlandZita on April 09, 2010, 12:19:06 PM
Margareta on skis :

(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4918/margaretofsw.jpg) (http://img502.imageshack.us/i/margaretofsw.jpg/)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: KarlandZita on April 10, 2010, 09:37:18 AM
Another wintersport's photo of Margareta, with King Gustav V :

(http://img10.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_727614wintersport.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=727614wintersport.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: KarlandZita on June 06, 2010, 11:38:33 AM
Margareta with King Gustav V :

(http://img10.hostingpics.net/pics/419203gvma.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=419203gvma.jpg)

The Crown Princess giving prix in 1909 :

(http://img10.hostingpics.net/pics/9385551909.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=9385551909.jpg)

Margareta and one of her son :

(http://img10.hostingpics.net/pics/723164margpat.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=723164margpat.jpg)

At Epsom in 1912, with King George V, Queen Mary and her father Duke of Connaught :

(http://img10.hostingpics.net/pics/917551epsom.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=917551epsom.jpg)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: royal_netherlands on June 06, 2010, 03:27:33 PM
Brilliant and beautiful pictures KarlandZita! Thank you very much for sharing! I love the clothes and hats of the ladies. Look at the height of the one Queen Mary is wearing!
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Kalafrana on June 07, 2010, 03:35:24 AM
Is the chap next to George V Arthur of Connaught?

Ann
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: KarlandZita on July 14, 2010, 02:04:14 PM
Is the chap next to George V Arthur of Connaught?

Ann

Yes, it's Prince Arthur of Connaught.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Lilian de Rethy on August 06, 2010, 04:38:56 AM
I have a special question:
I love old pictures and postcards and when I take a look to the portraits of the swedish Royals from the 20th to the 50th of last century, I always see the same signature.
You knows, who is the photographer?
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Carolath Habsburg on August 18, 2010, 02:42:11 PM
Prince Sigvard in Hollywood , chatting with the famous actor Lionel Barrymore

(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7072/sigvard.jpg) (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/sigvard.jpg/)

 
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: KarlandZita on April 23, 2011, 08:09:12 AM
Crown Princess Margareta with her children Gustav Adolf, Sigvard and Ingrid and Princess Ingeborg in carriage :

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/275053ingeborgmargaret.png) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=275053ingeborgmargaret.png)

Clich image for enlarge it.
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Post by: Carolath Habsburg on June 15, 2011, 08:44:11 AM
Margaret and little Ingrid

(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8563/ingridochmammapsofiero.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/ingridochmammapsofiero.jpg/)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on July 20, 2011, 03:35:14 AM
(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/9926/princessmargaretofconna.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/695/princessmargaretofconna.jpg/)

Princess Margaret "Daisy" of Connaught, later Queen consort to Gustav Adolf VI of Sweden, 1907, by Sir James Jebusa Shannon (1862-1923)
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on July 20, 2011, 03:47:12 AM
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2691/1909crownpssmargaretaof.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/1909crownpssmargaretaof.jpg/)

Crown Princess Margareta of Sweden (née Connaught) wearing the Khedive of Egypt tiara as a corsage ornament,1909, by Axel Jungstedt
Margaret wears a dress with dual necklines with about a 6-10 cm gap between them and sleeves turn back to join the lower neckline. The sleeves are assisted by two glittery straps in holding up the lower neckline.


*all the credit to gogm for this beautiful portrait detail!
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Laura_ on July 20, 2011, 04:06:32 AM

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/443/407224.jpg
http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/egallery/object.asp?maker=12271&object=407224&row=6


larger version

(http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/4656/18360559.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/803/18360559.jpg/)


Princess Margaret of Connaught (1882-1920), 1885, by Carl Rudolph Sohn (1845-1908)

Title: Count Carl Johan passed away:King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth
Post by: Lucien on May 06, 2012, 11:55:45 AM
The Royal Court announced:

Count Carl Johan Bernadotte av Wisborg passed away aged 95 on saturday may 5th.

The late Count was the fifth and youngest child of HM King Gustav VI Adolf and then Crown Princess Margareta,néé Princess of Connaught
and the last of the great grandsons of HM Queen Victoria.

Flags at the Royal Residences are at half mast.

R.I.P.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Kalafrana on May 07, 2012, 06:08:48 AM
Here is an obituary from the Daily Telegraph.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/royalty-obituaries/9249430/Count-Carl-Johan-Bernadotte.html
Title: Count Carl Johan passed away,King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth
Post by: Lucien on May 08, 2012, 04:58:58 AM
The funeral service on May 14th is at Bästad Church after which the casket will be taken to Stockholm where Count
Carl Johan will lay in State on a lit de parade at the Royal Palace Church.He will be interred at the Royal Haga cemetary.
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: XJaseyRaeX on May 09, 2012, 01:25:31 PM
beautiful painting of margaret! thanks for sharing it!
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Suzanne on May 29, 2012, 10:23:21 PM
The death of Queen Victoria's last surviving great-grandchild

http://www.royalhistorian.com/death-of-queen-victorias-last-surviving-great-grandchild-carl-johan-bernadotte-count-of-wisborg/
Title: Re: King Gustav VI Adolf , his 1st wife Margareth and their family
Post by: Keith on August 01, 2012, 02:57:09 PM
Prince Carl, Prince Sigvard, Prince Gustaf Adolf, Crown Prince Gustaf Adolf, Crown Princess Margaret and King Gustaf at the 1912 Olympic Games in Stocklholm

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/fajack/Royal%20photos/Stockholm1912.jpg)