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Discussions about Russian History => Their World and Culture => Topic started by: georgecl on April 12, 2006, 08:41:08 PM

Title: Emigre life in Harbin 1920's, for my Grandma
Post by: georgecl on April 12, 2006, 08:41:08 PM
Here an early pic 1922 or so of my Grandmother and her school friends..

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/georgecl/zoudilov%20Harbin/Grandmaschoolkids.jpg)

George
Title: Re: Life in Harbin 1920's for my Grandma
Post by: georgecl on April 12, 2006, 08:42:25 PM
just some sceens of Harbin..

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/georgecl/zoudilov%20Harbin/harbinsceens.jpg)

The little houses center lower pic are homes they had as vacation homes on the Sungri river..

Title: Re: Life in Harbin 1920's for my Grandma
Post by: georgecl on April 12, 2006, 08:45:21 PM
misc pics of Grandma..One in her wedding dress 1925 era

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/georgecl/zoudilov%20Harbin/grandmainweddingdress.jpg)
Title: Re: Life in Harbin 1920's for my Grandma
Post by: georgecl on April 12, 2006, 08:47:05 PM
More pics of grandma and friends. Th chinese style house was her and her new husbands house in Harbin.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/georgecl/zoudilov%20Harbin/grandmahouseharbin.jpg)
Title: Re: Life in Harbin 1920's for my Grandma
Post by: georgecl on April 12, 2006, 08:48:16 PM
beach on the Sungri river sceens

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/georgecl/zoudilov%20Harbin/grandmaatthebeachsungririver.jpg)
Title: Re: Life in Harbin 1920's for my Grandma
Post by: georgecl on April 12, 2006, 08:50:19 PM
Grandma with friends..The little girl is her neice Olga tatulov..

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/georgecl/zoudilov%20Harbin/GrandmaandolgaTatulov.jpg)

George
Title: Re: Life in Harbin 1920's for my Grandma
Post by: georgecl on April 12, 2006, 08:51:22 PM
Misc pics

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/georgecl/zoudilov%20Harbin/grandmayuri.jpg)
Title: Re: Life in Harbin 1920's for my Grandma
Post by: georgecl on April 12, 2006, 08:59:44 PM
Gramdma and Family 1919.Chita Russia.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/georgecl/zoudilov%20Harbin/ZoudilovGcopy.jpg)
Title: Re: Emigre life in Harbin 1920's, for my Grandma
Post by: Arleen on April 18, 2006, 12:31:27 PM
George, I am enjoying your family pictures so very much!  Thank you for sharing them with us.

It is interesting to me to see the 1919 picture in Russia and then the 1920ties pictures in China.....your grandmother seems to have adjusted to everything that happened during the revolution very well.  .....And by the way what a gorgeous Grandmother you have!!  What a lovely figure too....you come from really spectacular genes!!!

What an interesting family you have!  Did you know this grandmother?

Arleen
Title: Re: Emigre life in Harbin 1920's, for my Grandma
Post by: georgecl on April 18, 2006, 03:51:15 PM
Hi Arleen,

I glad you enjoy the pictures.

Yes I know my grandmother and grandfather.

They both along with my father immigrated in 1940.

Grandma and her youngest sister Maria Raised there families and lived out there years here in the USA.

Ill post more as time permits..

Thanks
George
Title: Re: Emigre life in Harbin 1920's, for my Grandma
Post by: Tania+ on April 18, 2006, 05:01:05 PM
Thank you George for sharing the beloved family album, and pictures of your Grandmother, and all. I have enjoyed them very much. My dad actually I believe lived a short time in Harbin, but originally arrived in Shanghai, upon his escape from Russia.  

Arleen is quite right, your grandmother is quite beautiful, as well the other members of the family. I must say it must be quite comforting to have at least these important photos. Your grandmother must have treasured these above all. Was she able to allow you know who all the people were in these various photos, or have they just become family treasured photos? I think it is so very important for family to make sure relatives are named where possible, for not just the receiver, but for future generations.

Thank you again for allowing us to see these wonderful photos.

Tatiana+
Title: Re: Emigre life in Harbin 1920's, for my Grandma
Post by: M_Breheny on May 02, 2006, 06:25:00 PM
Dear George:

What wonderful pictures.  Not only did I enjoy the photographs taken in pre-revolutionary Russia but I found the Harbin pictures fascinating.  What a contrast but, as others have pointed out, it seems that your grandmother adjusted well to her new life.  I think you have the makings of a a book!

Mary
Title: Re: Emigre life in Harbin 1920's, for my Grandma
Post by: imperial angel on May 03, 2006, 10:27:04 AM
I really enjoyed the pictures as well. They show what daily life was like, and besides that are very well taken, artistic, and your grand mother was really very lovely. I like old photos and these are very good examples of the best in old photos. You are so lucky these are your families, and that they survived, and show so well how your family lived then.
Title: Re: Emigre life in Harbin 1920's, for my Grandma
Post by: georgecl on May 05, 2006, 03:22:43 PM
Thanks for the kind words.. :)

I hope to get more scans done in the coming weeks.

I'll update the post then.

Its been fun piecing together my Grandmother history.
Thanks to everyone on this forum I have a grest start :D


Thanks again
George
Title: Re: Emigre life in Harbin 1920's, for my Grandma
Post by: georgecl on May 05, 2006, 03:23:48 PM
Thanks for the kind words.. :)

I hope to get more scans done in the coming weeks.

I'll update the post then.

Its been fun piecing together my Grandmother history.
Thanks to everyone on this forum I have a great start :D


Thanks again
George
Title: Re: Emigre life in Harbin 1920's, for my Grandma
Post by: imperial angel on May 08, 2006, 10:32:04 AM
Yes, please post more, I very much enjoyed them. It is true that this forum is a very great place, the best on the web.
Title: Re: Emigre life in Harbin 1920's, for my Grandma
Post by: pookiepie on May 15, 2006, 11:40:13 AM
the family's a bit on the dark side. are they 100% russian or is there some mixing?

Random question: to upload pictures, is the only way to do it to upload from the computer to the internet and from the internet to here? i didn't see any option to uplaod straight from my computer to the forum.
Title: Re: Emigre life in Harbin 1920's, for my Grandma
Post by: georgecl on May 15, 2006, 03:10:18 PM
Excuse me! :o

Not sure what you mean?

George

Title: Re: Emigre life in Harbin 1920's, for my Grandma
Post by: pookiepie on May 16, 2006, 12:55:21 AM
i'm not really sure how else to ask the question. I wasn't being offensive. i was just wondering if there was any mixing because they seem to be a little bit on the darker side (like italians or something).
Title: Re: Emigre life in Harbin 1920's, for my Grandma
Post by: AlexP@asia.com on June 06, 2006, 09:23:08 AM
GuangZhou, China
2006.06.06

Privet Yurichka!

I can't believe that I am seeing these pictures!  How wonderful.

You may wish to peruse the wonderful www.rusharbin.com which is maintained by one of the emigres still living in Harbin.

As someone who has lived in Harbin recently and who adores Harbin, I can identify some of these buildings for you.

A.  The two gentlemen sitting in front of a long road that leads to a Victoria looking summer building...that was the Harbin Swimming and Yacht Club...that building still exists today and serves much of the same purpose.

B.  The Bridge over the Synagura River was destroyed by the Japanese during the War and has since been rebuilt.  It looks remarkably like the original.

C.  I believe, but I am not 100% sure, yet still I am sure, that the WONDERFUL picture of your grandmother and her friends taken together was taken in front of the doors of one of the two "pravoslavnii gimansii" that existed in Harbin.  Most likely it was the No. 2 Gimnasia and this school today is the Harbin Senior Middle for the Nationalities (the building still exists).

D.  When I asked some of my "harbintzii" colleagues to look at the picture, they, on the other hand, think it  it appears to be the Rectory of the Pokrov Church, 266 Dongdazhi Street, Harbin.  The Pokrov Church was also known as the Ukranian Church.  Was your babushka Russian or Ukranian or might she have come from that part of the Empire?

E.  The railroad yard which built and repaired those wonderful steam locomotives (and all of their succesors) in Harbin only very, very recently stopped manufacturing the steam locomotive series that was lanced after the War.  It still exists and one can actually see some of these locomotives in the yard.  They were gradually withdrawn from MOST passenger and freight service in and around Harbin but they are still in use some parts of Inner Mongolia.

F.  The picture of those two houses in the country set back on a parcel is, in my opinion, in the Daoli District of Modern Harbin, on Youyi Road.  This was a part of the city set aside for those Russians who arrived in the 1920s  and it was located near the most wonderful Annunciation Church, a church built entirely of wood which existed until 1976 and which no longer exists for reasons well known.

This is wonderful, just wonderful...

I look forward to any other pictures that you might have.

And frankly, your grandmother definitely was a truly a "dama" - bezuslovna...

Great..

Thank again.

Alex P.


Title: Re: Emigre life in Harbin 1920's, for my Grandma
Post by: georgecl on June 14, 2006, 08:16:45 PM
Hi Alex P

Thanks for the Info on the settings..

I just got back for a vacation in europe..But I'll get some better scan of some of the buildings,

I love to get any infoe on the areas my Grandparents once lived.

Grandma was Russian and did attend the school you mentioned.

Thanks
Again

George
Title: Re: Emigre life in Harbin 1920's, for my Grandma
Post by: imperial angel on August 23, 2006, 08:47:58 AM
The family certainly looks Russian to me, and those are lovely pictures.