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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Windsors => Topic started by: grandduchessella on December 10, 2006, 03:16:20 PM
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"Zara is first Royal to appear in an ad"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=421553&in_page_id=1770&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=picbox&ct=5
Now Zara isn't royal but rather a member of the royal family but she looks pretty in the photo anyway. :)
Two views of the modern royal (or family member) dilemma:
Ian Davidson, the Labour Glasgow East MP an outspoken critic of Royal spending, said: "Miss Phillips is to be commended for making her own way in the world. If she is cashing in on her success as a sporting star as other people do, then she is making something of herself."
But a senior former Royal aide said: "This will certainly raise eyebrows. It will revive memories of Sophie Wessex posing with a Rover for her PR firm. It will be mentioned to her, there is no doubt about that."
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Zara has also just won "Sports person of the year" good for her!! She looked very nice indeed.
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Yes, for the first time ever - and probably the last - a mother and daughter have won this very prestigious award.
tsaria
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I noticed the article mentioned that Zara is engaged to Mike Tindall. When was this announced? She'll be the first of the Queen's grandchildren to marry -unless of course William beats her to it ;)
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She look beautiful.
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I'm happy for her. She's an athlete and they get a lot of income from endorsements.
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I had noticed mention of the engagement as well but didn't know anything about it. If it's true that would make her the first of EII's grandchildren to become engaged--perhaps EII will have great-grandchildren in the not-to-distant future. :)
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"Zara is first Royal to appear in an ad"
What about Sarah Ferguson? I suppose she had really lost her royal title when she did those Weight Watchers ads and the orange juice one I think it was... ???
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Zara and Mike are not engaged. The Daily Mail is not known for its fact checking department.
I noticed the article mentioned that Zara is engaged to Mike Tindall. When was this announced? She'll be the first of the Queen's grandchildren to marry -unless of course William beats her to it ;)
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That brings me to a question...will Her Majesty make a public announcement should this granddaughter become engaged sometime in the future?
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I think she should Grace :). Zara is her eldest grandaugher, I wish they had titles but of course there are more important things!! She's done very well.
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I wondered about the engagement since I hadn't read anything about it--you'd think it'd be mentioned since she's the Queen's granddaughter--but I thought that maybe it had been overlooked here in the US nonetheless. Thanks to Marlene for clearing that up.
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Most likely, the announcement will come from the Princess Royal via the press office ... Zara will need permission to marry according to the RMA.
That brings me to a question...will Her Majesty make a public announcement should this granddaughter become engaged sometime in the future?
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Zara has also just won "Sports person of the year" good for her!! She looked very nice indeed.
Zara:
http://members3.boardhost.com/Warholm/msg/1165826340.html
Courtesy Mel (BRMB)
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I hope Martyn is squirming in his retirement as he never thought Zara would step up to the fashion plate. ;D ;D ;D
I always new she had "it" as the recent pictures prove.
TampaBay
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I completly agree TB!! :). How does Zara and her mother get along? I can imagine they are both strong characters! When Zara went to collect her award there was a lovely picture shown behind of Anne, with sporting a wonderful smile, hugging her!!
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I believe I read Anne and Zara are close but do butt heads often becuse they are "two peas out of the the same pod".
TampaBay
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I believe I read Anne and Zara are close but do butt heads often becuse they are "two peas out of the the same pod".
TampaBay
So then, like mother, like daughter. :)
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It will be interesting to see how Zara's commercial endeavors play out. The Royal Family are in a bit of a bind here.
Here's how I see the earning potential:
Earning a private income but getting criticism for crass commercialism, as Sophie, Edward, and Prince Michael of Kent were.
Avoiding accusations of crass commercialism by not working for a living, but getting criticised for failing to live up to the standards people expect of Royalty, as was Princess Michael.
Avoiding accusations of crass commercialism by not working for a living, but getting criticised for being idle rich (Edward and Sophie again).
Not working for a living, but living up to standards through subsidies from the Queen. And getting criticised for depending on support from a little old lady (Kents again).
Damned if they do, damned if they don't, and damned for trying.
Pax, N.
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Or finding that happy 3rd way of earning a living without criticism (the Duke of Gloucester who was an architect for awhile, until royal obligations took over) or with fairly little criticism (Viscount Linley). After all, Zara doesn't have the HRH in front of her name so it will be easier for her than for the Kents or for Edward & Sophie. She's expected to earn a living so she'll be given some leeway, I think. I believe people just want her to exercise some judgment (something Pss Michael lacks) and not embarrass her grandmother.
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Zara is not royal. Her mother is. She will have to earn a living or marry great wealth. She is invited to family events but not State Dinners. She does not carry out engagements. She is not on the civil list, and never will be. She is actually a commoner, a private British citizen whose grandmother is the queen. She is line to the throne, but so are lots of other people.
It will be interesting to see how Zara's commercial endeavors play out. The Royal Family are in a bit of a bind here.
Here's how I see the earning potential:
Earning a private income but getting criticism for crass commercialism, as Sophie, Edward, and Prince Michael of Kent were.
Avoiding accusations of crass commercialism by not working for a living, but getting criticised for failing to live up to the standards people expect of Royalty, as was Princess Michael.
Avoiding accusations of crass commercialism by not working for a living, but getting criticised for being idle rich (Edward and Sophie again).
Not working for a living, but living up to standards through subsidies from the Queen. And getting criticised for depending on support from a little old lady (Kents again).
Damned if they do, damned if they don't, and damned for trying.
Pax, N.
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So the HRH makes all the difference, huh? Seems to me that the actions of a grandchild reflect on the grandmother, and it makes no difference is it William or Peter, HRH or not. Pax, N.
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Yes - the HRH makes a difference. The HRH means that the person is a member of THE ROYAL FAMILY - at this time, the Royal Family includes The Queen, her husband, her four children, her two daughters-in-law, 4 grandchildren (William, Harry, Beatrice and Eugenie), The duke and duchess of Gloucester, the duke and duchess of Kent, Prince and Princess Michael of Kent, and Princess Alexandra. There is also a "royal" family that gets invited to services of Thanksgiving, major events such as weddings , state funerals, but are not a part of the Royal life - in terms of duties, representing the sovereign, taking part, officially, in state occasions. This would include children of princesses, as well as the children of the dukes of Kent and Gloucester, and Prince Michael. However, these children may have royal blood - but are not in themselves royal. They will need to make their own way, have their own careers. From time to time, due to their familial or genealogical ties, they will be invited to royal events. Zara and Peter are private citizens, who, as I said before, are grandchildren of the queen. They do not have the same position as their cousins, William and Harry and Beatrice and Eugenie - who are princes and princesses of the UK of Great Britain and Northern Ireland ...and they will have roles to play and support the Sovereign.
This does not apply to Anne's kids or to Princess Margaret's children. So the HRH makes all the difference, huh? Seems to me that the actions of a grandchild reflect on the grandmother, and it makes no difference is it William or Peter, HRH or not. Pax, N.
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But if all the HRHs have public roles to play, why are they not supported out of public coffers? If HRHs are expected to live up to a higher standard, then why, for example, shouldn't Prince Michael and Princess Michael receive public funds? Seems like the British public have unreasonable expectations, as in Edward and Sophie must live up to the standard (see her criticised for lack of hair and makeup and him for his ugly suit in the Wessex thread below but cannot endorse products to earn money to pay for hair, makeup, suits) while Zara can???
I'm garbled, I know. But I expect there'd be an unholy uproar were Zara to endorse a foreign made product which competed with the British Rover. Like Chevrolet?
Pax, N.
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Yes - the HRH makes a difference. The HRH means that the person is a member of THE ROYAL FAMILY - at this time, the Royal Family includes The Queen, her husband, her four children, her two daughters-in-law, 4 grandchildren (William, Harry, Beatrice and Eugenie), The duke and duchess of Gloucester, the duke and duchess of Kent, Prince and Princess Michael of Kent, and Princess Alexandra. There is also a "royal" family that gets invited to services of Thanksgiving, major events such as weddings , state funerals, but are not a part of the Royal life - in terms of duties, representing the sovereign, taking part, officially, in state occasions. This would include children of princesses, as well as the children of the dukes of Kent and Gloucester, and Prince Michael. However, these children may have royal blood - but are not in themselves royal. They will need to make their own way, have their own careers. From time to time, due to their familial or genealogical ties, they will be invited to royal events. Zara and Peter are private citizens, who, as I said before, are grandchildren of the queen. They do not have the same position as their cousins, William and Harry and Beatrice and Eugenie - who are princes and princesses of the UK of Great Britain and Northern Ireland ...and they will have roles to play and support the Sovereign.
This does not apply to Anne's kids or to Princess Margaret's children.
Was a Letter and Patent ever excuted by Buckingham Palace depriving Lady Louise Windsor of her birthright as a HRH?
TampaBay
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But if all the HRHs have public roles to play, why are they not supported out of public coffers? If HRHs are expected to live up to a higher standard, then why, for example, shouldn't Prince Michael and Princess Michael receive public funds? Seems like the British public have unreasonable expectations, as in Edward and Sophie must live up to the standard (see her criticised for lack of hair and makeup and him for his ugly suit in the Wessex thread below but cannot endorse products to earn money to pay for hair, makeup, suits) while Zara can???
Pax, N.
I have to agree with the above point. If you are Royal and must limit yourself on how you earn a living (conflict of interest...British endorsements only...cannot pose for Playboy or Maxim...etc...etc...) then you shpuld receive a stipend. If you are not Royal then you should be allowed to do what you want to earn a living like another ordinary citizen.
One should never embarass one's grandmother; it makes no difference if she is the Queen of England or plain Granny Smith. Therefore, I do see what Zara's grandmother QEII has to do with anything in regrds to her choice of money making enterprises.
TampaBay
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Edward and Sophie are members of the royal family. They carry out official duties, they have personal protection officers, they are a prince and princess of the UK. Zara is a commoner. She does not carry out official duties.
Since the reign of George III, the profits from the Crown Estates are turned over to the British treasury (and we are talking millions and millions of sterling). In return, the Sovereign is given the Civil List. The Civil list IS NOT A SALARY. The British royals do not receive any payment for their duties. 2/3ds of Civil list funds goes to staff salaries. The civil list pays for the official duties of the royal. Not all royals are on the civil list. The only royals who receive such allocations are the queen, Philip, Anne (not her husband), Andrew and Edward and Sophie the duke and duchess of Kent, the duke and duchess of Gloucester, and Alexandra. Charles is not on the civil list. He is the Duke of Cornwall, and he receives payment from the Cornwall estates. As Michael is a younger son of the late duke of Kent, he is not a recipient of the Civil List ... but on the rare occasion that he and his wife represent the Sovereign, their expenses are refunded. If the duke of Gloucester's older brother had not died young, the duke would still be Prince Richard (and he and his wife would not be on the civil list.) Princess Alexandra is also on the list.
The royal highnesses serve the UK - it is their duty. Zara does not have that obligation. Apart from the connection of being the queen's granddaughter, Zara does not have special privileges in terms of protection. Her father, who was once married to Anne, is the trainer of the US equestrian team. The Earl of Wessex and his wife work as royals. They carry out numerous official engagements each month. If you visit the British monarchy's website, you will see what the royals do each day. The Times and Telegraph publish the court circular each day, which includes the royal duties for the previous day. Zara is not a part of this, and she will never be.
Land Rover is a foreign product ... Land Rover has not been a British owned company for some years. Several years ago, the US car manufacturer Ford bought Land Rover from BMW.
But if all the HRHs have public roles to play, why are they not supported out of public coffers? If HRHs are expected to live up to a higher standard, then why, for example, shouldn't Prince Michael and Princess Michael receive public funds? Seems like the British public have unreasonable expectations, as in Edward and Sophie must live up to the standard (see her criticised for lack of hair and makeup and him for his ugly suit in the Wessex thread below but cannot endorse products to earn money to pay for hair, makeup, suits) while Zara can???
I'm garbled, I know. But I expect there'd be an unholy uproar were Zara to endorse a foreign made product which competed with the British Rover. Like Chevrolet?
Pax, N.
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Was a Letter and Patent ever excuted by Buckingham Palace depriving Lady Louise Windsor of her birthright as a HRH?
TampaBay
No titlte is a birth right ... but the queen has not issued a Letters Patent. However, Louise is styled as The Lady Louise Windsor, and has the surname Mountbatten-Windsor.
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No titlte is a birth right ... .
Ok, then why are the daughters od Sarah & Andrew Princess if not because they are grandchildren of the soverign in the male line? ;D ;D ;D
It seems to me that either you are born a ROYAL Princess or you are not regardless of what your every day working title is. ??? ??? ???
TampaBay
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First, I thought the Civil List was reformed about four years ago, and only the queen and the D of E were on it anymore. I could be wrong, of course. A novel experience! ;)
Second, if it were me in Zara's place, I'd choose to represent only British companies. Economic patriotism, you see. We should all serve our countries and not count the cost.
Pax, N.
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First, I thought the Civil List was reformed about four years ago, and only the queen and the D of E were on it anymore. I could be wrong, of course. A novel experience! ;)
Pax, N.
The way it changed was, I think, that the Civil List remains the same but now the Queen pays back all Civil List money to the treasury herself except the money given to her and Philip. ;)
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(per Wikipedia which isn't always reliable but this seems accurate to my recollection)
Monies to support the Queen in the exercise of her duties as head of state (the Head of State Expenditure) of the United Kingdom come from the Civil List; a return of a small portion of the revenue from the Crown Lands that are surrendered by the Monarch to Parliament at the beginning of each reign, all Crown Land being administered by The Crown Estates, an institution answerable to parliament. In the 2003-04 fiscal year the amount surrendered was £176.9 million, where the Head of State Expenditure was £36 million. The Head of State Expenditure does not include the cost of security.
Only the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh receive funding from the Civil List. The Duke receives £359,000 per year.
Only some members of the Royal Family carry out public duties; these individuals receive an annual payment known as a Parliamentary Annuity, the funds being supplied to cover office costs.
The Duke of York: £249,000 per annum
The Earl of Wessex: £141,000 per annum
The Princess Royal: £228,000 per annum
The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester: £175,000 per annum
The Duke and Duchess of Kent: £236,000 per annum
Princess Alexandra £225,000 per annum
These amounts are repaid by The Queen from her private funds.
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Louise should be styled a princess but she isn't alleged per her parents request.
No titlte is a birth right ... .
Ok, then why are the daughters od Sarah & Andrew Princess if not because they are grandchildren of the soverign in the male line? ;D ;D ;D
It seems to me that either you are born a ROYAL Princess or you are not regardless of what your every day working title is. ??? ??? ???
TampaBay
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The official British monarchy site provides excellent information on who gets what.
The queen refunds to the treasury all but 2 Civil list payments - to herself and to her husband. A sort of double jeopardy due to the Crown estates annual payment to the treasury.
First, I thought the Civil List was reformed about four years ago, and only the queen and the D of E were on it anymore. I could be wrong, of course. A novel experience! ;)
Second, if it were me in Zara's place, I'd choose to represent only British companies. Economic patriotism, you see. We should all serve our countries and not count the cost.
Pax, N.
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Zara nominated for OBE in honour list:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/12/23/nzara23.xml
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It is rumoured that Zara Phillips is engaged to English rugby player, Mike Tindall. Zara is perhaps my favourite Windsor; she has demonstrated an ability to be unconventional and independent without turning being photographed topless on a yacht off Capri or drunk outside of club. I believe successful and independent characters such as hers are the future of the Windsor’s. . . . the new generation seem set to leave behind the debauchery of the 80s and 90s and present themselves as fresh, dedicated individuals (excluding Prince Harry maybe). Interesting to note that it has taken such young English royals to bring the House of Windsor out of disrepute. . . if you recall the animosity felt towards the scandalous Hanoverians when Queen Victoria came to the throne.
here she is in an advertisement for range rover (a move that prompted debate)
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p29/jpjsimos/LandRover20Zara20Phillips.jpg)
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If she becomes engaged, I feel there will be a statement. As someone pointed out, she is the Queen's eldest granddaughter.
The photograph is unusual, though a vast improvement on the latest offering from Sarah, Duchess of York, who has allowed herself to be photographed by America's Harper's Bazaar complete with stilettos, fishnet stockings and a riding crop.
Is all the dirt supposed to be from her careering around in a Land Rover?
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It’s a send up on the sloan ranger style of gentry. The English aristocracy have kept country homes for centuries and they maintain active links with the country (scenes from the recent movie 'The Queen' demonstrate this). I often joke to my mates that the women at our stables have the dirt on their Range Rovers painted on so as to give the illusion that they have been 'out 4wd and enjoying country pursuits'…on a more serious note, eastern Australia is in the middle of a serious draught :(
xx
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(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_01/zaraphilPA1205_154x100.jpg)
Zara's dad makes her put wedding plans on hold
Zara told her closest friends that, after getting secretly engaged to Mike at Christmas, they would make an official announcement in August. But now the plan has been scrapped
A gold ring? Get your gold medal first, Dad tells Zara
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=454394&in_page_id=1773&in_a_source=
After Prince William and Kate Middleton split, all eyes were on Zara Phillips to announce her engagement to rugby player boyfriend Mike Tindall.
But I am sorry to report that it won't be happening this summer.
Zara, 25, had told her closest friends that, after getting secretly engaged at Christmas, the couple would make an official announcement in August. But now friends say the plan has been scrapped.
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_01/zaraphilPA1205_468x457.jpg)
Engagement on hold: MIke and Zara
"After extensive talks with her father, Captain Mark Phillips, Zara has decided to concentrate on training for the Beijing Olympics next year," says a close friend.
"She is focusing all her efforts on bringing home the gold medal. As far as her father is concerned, her career is the most important thing.
"Zara and her dad have a turbulent relationship, but the one thing she always respects is her father's advice when it comes to her career."
Sources close to the Phillipses say it is not just Zara's equestrian commitments that are concerning her father.
"While Anne is really fond of Mike, Zara's father has his reservations," reports a friend.
"He's not convinced it's a perfect match and he has told Zara to hold off making anything official and concentrate instead on her sport.
"There is a degree of uncertainty on Mark's behalf about Mike. He finds his attitude a little too laid-back and a couple of years ago demanded that Zara rethink her choice of suitor."
Princess Anne, however, is said to adore Tindall, 28, who is due to play in the Rugby World Cup in September.
"Mike has said Zara is the love of his life and has hinted strongly that he wants to marry her after the Olympics.
"He says they already feel like a married couple and rushing it through just for the piece of paper doesn't seem worth it. They want it to be right.
"They have already started planning the wedding and Zara is keen to get plans under way as soon as her Olympic bid is over."
Watch this space.
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Zara yesterday:
http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=16-06-2007%20Luhmuehlen
Courtesy PPE/Colourpress/D.Leppin.
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Thanks Lucien. I know everyone here appreciates the work you put into bringing us all those images.
Zara Phillips is becoming more and more attractive each time I see her. She is a brave woman. Last week she had a very close call with death. Who would think that looking at these photographs.
I hope she wins the Olympic gold medal. Not just because she is the Queen's granddaughter - though this would be wonderful for the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh - but because of her total commitment, fearlessness, unaffectedness and sportsmanship.
tsaria
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On June 16
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/74666968.jpg)
Earlier in June (I think this is the event where she took the fall)
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Zara & Queen at Achievers Reception At Buckingham Palace
LONDON, ENGLAND - Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh greet granddaughter Zara Phillips and her boyfriend Mike Tindall at an Achievers reception at Buckingham Palace, on December 19, 2006 in London, England.
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Zara Phillips Equestrian Athlete of The Year Award
LONDON, ENGLAND - Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall kisses Zara Phillips as she presents her with the Equestrian Athlete of the Year award at Queen's House Greenwich on November 28, 2006 in London, England.
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Aachen, GERMANY: during the awarding ceremony of the Eventing competition of the World Equestrian Games in Aachen 27 August 2006. Phillips won the gold medal in the individual competition and the silver medal with her British team in the team competition.
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Glamour Woman Of The Year Awards 2007 - Inside
LONDON - JUNE 05: Zara Phillips and Mike Tindall attend the Glamour Women Of The Year Awards 2007, at the Berkeley Square Gardens on June 5, 2007 in London, England.
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Land Rover Announces Support For British Eventing
LONDON - APRIL 02: Zara Phillips poses with a Land Rover at The Hurlingham Club on April 02, 2007 in London. Today Land Rover announced its support for the British Olympic Three-Day Eventing team.
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(This is a real 'my eyes, my eyes!' outfit. I wonder if it was her mother's?)
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Interview with Zara's boyfriend Mike Tindall
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/main.jhtml;jsessionid=3UB2RLUPW01BBQFIQMFCFF4AVCBQYIV0?xml=/portal/2007/06/22/nosplit/fttindall122.xml
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it seems there is no news or information on Peter, Zara's brother. Is he completely out of the lime light?
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There are photos of him at Ascot--his girlfriend attended with him. Overall, he seems to lead a pretty quiet life though.
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Zara & Mike Tindall and Peter with Autumn Kelly (and Kate Middleton in the background) at the Concert for Diana
(http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-18587237.jpg?size=67&uid={fe3fc28d-147f-4639-97e9-6f7b20862151})
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Zara isn't royal. She is simply the only daughter of the Princess Royal. She is a commoner and has no titles although she recently received an honour.
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Did anyone say otherwise?
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Hello,
I'm kindly asking for anyone to post pictures of Peter and Zara when they were young. Some with Prince William and Prince Harry will be appreciated as well. Thank you.
Condecontessa
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Getty has dozens of pages of photos if you do a search. Here are some, since there are way too many to post:
Zara with her mum
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52117940AnneAndZaraPhillipsPiggybac.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52104028AnneAndZaraPhillipsAscot.jpg)
Zara & Peter with Anne
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/51027592AnnewithherchildrenPeterand.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52118526AnneZaraAndPeterPhillipsSco.jpg)
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With their grandparents:
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52103143PhilipAnneZaraAndPeter.jpg)
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With Aunt Diana & Cousins
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(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/73850904DianaAndChildren.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52119820WilliamAndZaraPhillips.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52118249ZaraPhillipsWilliamAndQueen.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52118247HarryZaraAndPeterPhillipsIn.jpg)
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With William & Harry
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/53507500PrinceHarryskiswithhiscousi.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52119817WilliamAndZaraPhillips.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52119969ZaraHarryAndCharles.jpg)
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(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/51894203HarryandZara.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/51893182WilliamPrinceHarryandZara.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/51152150harryzara.jpg)
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(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52112063WilliamZaraAndHarryOnBikes.jpg)
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(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/HarryWillsZara.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52608288Blessing.jpg)
Zara (yawning), William & Anne holding up Harry
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52097936DianaZaraAnneHarry.jpg)
As attendants for Aunt Sarah & Uncle Andrew
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52118514AndrewAndSarahWedding.jpg)
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(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/1847678QueenandZara.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/1847673QueenandZaraPhilips.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52103913PhilipAndZaraPhillips.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52103773QueenAndZaraPhillips.jpg)
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(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52102050ZaraPhillipsAge3.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/1323622ZaraAscot.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52110865ZaraPhillipsAndPeter.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52110293PeterAndZaraPhillipsSandrin.jpg)
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(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52119903ZaraPhillipsAndWilliam.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52119902ZaraPhillipsAndWilliam.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52111737WilliamAndPeter.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52107555WilliamAndPeter.jpg)
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Peter with his cousins on happy occasions....
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/2078213PeterPhillipsWilliams18th.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/1663098RoyalsatGoldenJubileeParade.jpg)
...and sad (the Queen Mother's funeral)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/758379QueenMothersStateFuneral.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/756745QueenMothersCeremonialProcess.jpg)
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Peter
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/57077374QueenElizabethIIandPrincess.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52117898PeterPhillipsPageBoy.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52102046PeterPhillips.jpg)
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Loves his rugby
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52103077Rugby.jpg)
Presenting a rugby award
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/923682PRAComputercenterRugbyPlayers.jpg)
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With his mum
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52115795PeterPhillipsAndPrincessAnn.jpg)
and stepfather
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/2663533PeterPhilipswithTimLaurence.jpg)
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with his uncles Andrew & Edward
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52484602EasterService.jpg)
cousin Sarah Chatto
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52104085SarahChattoAndPeterPhillips.jpg)
William, Margarita Armstrong-Jones & Peter (what good-looking escorts the little girl had :) )
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/72876125WilliamandPeterPhillipshold.jpg)
with Harry
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/56487861HarryandhiscousinPeter.jpg)
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with his grandmother
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/56799794QueenPeterPhillips.jpg)
and with his sister
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/2670549ZaraandPeter.jpg)
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with girlfriend Autumn Kelly
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/71592373PeterPhillipsandhisgirlfrie.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/71500614PeterPhillipsandgirlfriendA.jpg)
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Peter Phillips looks quite hefty in some of the more recent photos, with a rather fleshy Hanoverian quality creeping into his face.....
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He's got a nice set of legs on him!!!
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Gorgeous ;D
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Might of known you wouldn't miss them Kim!!! ;D ;D
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Gorgeous ;D
Hey, yeah, he is rather...I also see a resemblance between him and his cousin William, so perhaps William is not totally Spencer at all. ???
Kim and I notice him because there's not much in the way of sexy looking royal men out there (though he's not technically royal) - leastways not in this century. ::) :(
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Peter is a great looking man and i agree with Martyn that he is getting a Hanoverian aspect to his appearance. as such, he, his cousin William and distant cousin and head of the German royal house, Georg Fredrich, all look like they were hatched from the same nest and with the same handsome genes.
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(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/52608288Blessing.jpg)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/vickyandfritz/britain/modern/57077374QueenElizabethIIandPrincess.jpg)
Dudes, Lords. Ladies and other Fringe People from Florida,
Does not Anne's and Zara's outfits have a resemblence here or have I had too much wine as usual?
Is this Vintage at it's best or what?
TampaBay
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Zara & her boyfriend Mike Tindall at Camilla's 60th birthday
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_02/camillaparty2107_468x307.jpg)
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Peter Phillips to marry Autumn Kelly:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1277586,00.html
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Will there be a tiara worn do you think?
This couple seem so casual and out-of-the-royal-loop that I could see it going either way. ???
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Could go either way indeed,but I do hope granny will lend her a tiara,after all,it is her first grandson Autumn is to marry,so I would expect a "sparkle" here and there.
:-*
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Hi,
The announcement indicates that this is the first 'royal' marriage since Charles and Camilla!!!!!!!
Is this a "royal marriage" as Peter Phillips is not regarded as royal.
Unless The Queen gives him a title and then he'd only be an aristocrat, unless she makes him a prince (highly unlikely!).......
Larry
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Even in London they get things wrong. It does not really matter as we need to good wedding to talk about...the important things in life....jewelry, fashion, flowers decor....and what Princess Anne will wear.
I cannot wait for Martyn's commentary. ;D ;D ;D
I am already getting excited just thinking about it!
Will this wedding be televised in the UK?
TampaBay
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Wouldn't be surprised as Peter keeps a low profile,the wedding will be the same,and maybe at that wonderfull little chapel in the Windsor grounds,
with a photo-shoot after the ceremony for us to OHHH and EEEK. ::)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6920860.stm
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I would think that it will be a low-key affair more in line with Princess Margaret's children. Those were lovely weddings and got some attention but weren't the full-blown televised affairs of the Queen's elder children. Even Edward's wedding was far more low-key than that of his older siblings.
I'm personally hoping that the Greek tiara that belonged to Princess Alice and is now worn by Anne might make an appearance here. It's small and light enough to make a lovely wedding tiara.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/emeraldeyes1969/meander.jpg)
Queen Elizabeth can now (hopefully) follow in the footsteps of Queen Victoria and be a Queen Regent to see a great-grandchild.
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There is a topic "What will the Princess Royal were to her son's wedding". So I learnt that Peter Philips eventually got married. Is that true? And if, who is he going to
marry?
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Peter's engagement
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=471555&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
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There is a topic "What will the Princess Royal were to her son's wedding". So I learnt that Peter Philips eventually got married. Is that true? And if, who is he going to
marry?
read posts and you find out....
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The poster had started a new topic with the question and I merged it here. Because I didn't want the post to disappear and her not know what happened to it, I left the question--it will seem rather disjointed because of that.
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Peter & Autumn
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_03/PhillipsWedDM3007_468x728.jpg)
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From Daily Mail:
"Peter, 29, has been with his Montreal-born girlfriend Autumn Kelly for four years after meeting at the Canadian Grand Prix.Horserider Zara, meanwhile, is thought to have put off plans to tie the knot until the summer of 2009 so she can concentrate on training for the 2008 Olympics. Protocol means royal marriages rarely take place close to one another and the announcement of Mr Phillips's engagement is understood to have strengthened his sister's determination to put her career first. Miss Kelly, 31, met Mr Phillips - the Queen's eldest grandson - when he was a sponsorship manager for the Williams Formula 1 team. Soon after, she moved to Britain to be with him. The couple now share a cottage on his mother's Gatcombe Park estate in Gloucester-shire. Described as "clever, funny and down to earth", Miss Kelly grew up in Montreal with her mother Kay and airline pilot stepfather Ron Magas. She attended the elite McGill University and on graduating became a management consultant. Mr Phillips, who now works for the Royal Bank of Scotland, has made a conscious effort to stay out of the limelight. Despite being tenth in line to the throne, does not have a royal title and does not carry out any official royal engagements....His sister Zara has been going out with ex-England rugby star Mike Tindall for three years. But despite speculation that they will marry, the 26-year-old has insisted to friends that she will not get hitched soon. A source said: "Zara really loves Mike and wants the two of them to be together for ever. But at the moment she is just too focused on her eventing to think about marriage. "She doesn't want to think about anything like marriage before the 2008 Olympics." "
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The official announcement is in:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1277586,00.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6920860.stm
http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page6028.asp
And an article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/main.jhtml;jsessionid=MOBXQ2KXTMB1XQFIQMFSFFWAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/portal/2007/07/31/nosplit/ftautumn131.xml
It's unknown for certain whether she's Catholic--according to the article, there are Irish names on both sides of her family and she attended a Catholic school. I would think that if she was, though, it would be known by now with the Queen having given formal consent. You'd think that an announcement would be made of Peter losing his place in the succession. So that's probably a non-starter. Still, it's stirred up some lively discussion on the British Royal message boards and others regarding the 'what if' and if we'd see someone closer to the throne (though pretty far still) than the Earl of St Andrews or Nicholas Windsor be forced out of the succession.
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/graphics/2007/07/31/ftautumn400.jpg)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=472514&in_page_id=1770&ICO=NEWS&ICL=TOPART (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=472514&in_page_id=1770&ICO=NEWS&ICL=TOPART)
That is not Chav.....I don't see any Burberry check. :D
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That pink car behind the casually dressed Peter and Autumn looks like the one Lady Penelope drove in during the Thunderbirds puppet series!!!
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Hi,
The announcement indicates that this is the first 'royal' marriage since Charles and Camilla!!!!!!!
Is this a "royal marriage" as Peter Phillips is not regarded as royal.
Unless The Queen gives him a title and then he'd only be an aristocrat, unless she makes him a prince (highly unlikely!).......
Larry
Yes, and some news reports have said he is a "...popular member of the royal family..." which is also not perfectly accurate since Peter is not in the royal family. Nonetheless, i am with TampaBay eagerly awaiting the flurry of fanfare and hubbub that will hopefully surround the event. HOPEFULLY the fashion gods will bless Anne with a fabulous look. Can't someone give her the number for Vera Wang or Valentino?
Also, the tiara selection by Grandduchess seems just perfect for not only the occasion but for the person. Subtle, elegant, reverse-glitze with sparkle. this piece always reminds me of the tiara given to Viktoria Luise by WII.
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I thought calling him a member of the royal family was accurate since he is the Queen's grandson and thus part of her family. It's not accurate to call him a royal since he isn't a prince and, in fact, has no title at all. Am I incorrect in this?
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Okay, lets' call him "a popular member of the royal family's family".
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It seems that Autumn Kelly may indeed be Catholic:
http://www.britishroyalwedding.com/2007/08/03/peter-phillips-must-give-up-throne-to-marry-autumn/
The Times online "quotes The Tablet as revealing that Miss Kelly, the daughter of Brian and Kathleen “Kitty” Kelly, was baptised on 18 June 1978 at St John Fisher Parish church in Pointe-Claire, a suburb of Montreal in Quebec. Although it is not clear whether she is still a practising Catholic, unless she agrees to renounce her religion the union will fall foul of the 1701 Act of Settlement, which bars the monarch or heirs to the throne from marrying a Catholic....Cardinal Keith O’Brien, Catholic Archbishop of Edinburgh, told The Tablet the Act was “scandalous” and... said he had every sympathy for Mr Phillips, who is as low-profile as it is possible for a member of Britain’s Royal family to be, and who works for the Royal Bank of Scotland. He also sympathised with Miss Kelly. “Whether a person be fortieth or second in line to the throne, it is wrong that they be deprived of that right because they have fallen in love and chosen to marry a Roman Catholic,” he told The Tablet." (via Catholic News)
The Tablet, the Catholic weekly, has now established that she was baptized on June 18, 1978, at St. John Fisher parish church in Point-Claire, a suburb of Montreal. A spokesman for the church told the Daily Telegraph that Ms. Kelly's mother, Kitty, had authorized the information to be disclosed, saying that her daughter was proud of her religion. Attempts to revoke the law have been made. John Gummer, a member of the Parliament who converted to Catholicism, tabled a Ten Minute Rule Bill in Parliament earlier this year in a bid to overturn the remaining anti-Catholic legislation. Mr. Gummer said: "It is unacceptable that the part of the Christian church that has more active adherents than any other should be discriminated against in this way." In other comments, he slammed the law saying, "It is inhuman in the 21st century for anyone to demand this."
I'm not a fan of conversions for expediency sake but if it turns out she was baptized Catholic but is basically non-practicing, and being Catholic isn't a big deal to her, it will probably be easier for her to just convert to the Anglican Church. If being a Catholic is important to her (and this doesn't necessarily mean she adheres to every rule or attends every week) I hope she stays Catholic. Since it was mentioned at all when the engagement was announced, and I can't imagine it slipped anyone's mind, perhaps she is a lapsed Catholic and they were going to have a quiet conversion? Either way, while I think the Act is bigoted and out-of-date, I hope their engagement doesn't become a political ping-pong match over whether or not the Act should be changed. Save it for when someone closer to the throne may be involved. Just my opinion, though. :) As others have pointed out, given how much Peter likes his private life, perhaps he wouldn't mind losing his succession rights. I wonder how Anne (who apparently had to give up Andrew Parker-Bowles because he is Catholic) feels about it.
Another article on whether the law should be changed:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/04/npeter104.xml
"Gordon Brown was under mounting pressure yesterday to end the ban on Roman Catholics marrying into the Royal Family after one of his key constitutional advisers called for the law to be changed. Lord Lester, the Liberal Democrat peer drafted in by the Prime Minister to advise on constitutional issues, told The Daily Telegraph that the centuries-old ban was "an injustice" that should now go."
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In less controversial news, here is the engagement ring (courtesy of the Daily Mail)
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/08_01/AutumnRingDM0308_468x328.jpg)
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/08_01/AutumnKellyDM0308_468x713.jpg)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=472911&in_page_id=1770
(And our own Marlene weighs in on the Catholic issue in the comments on the Daily Mail page. :) )
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And some info about the bride-to-be:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=473187&in_page_id=1770
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/08_01/autumn050807_468x500.jpg)
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Zara's new Rolex ad:
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/08_01/zararolexMS0408_468x392.jpg)
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Lovely engagement ring.The middle stone looks about two karats?Does anyone know who the jeweller is?Peter Phillips and Autumn Kelly are an attractive young couple.I hope they have a wonderful wedding and a long happy marriage.Zara looks striking in the Rolex ad.Suits those colours.Her mother would too.
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Thank goodness Peter and Zara are commoners. Princess Anne was very wise refusing titles for them and her former husband.
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Why thank goodness? They seem to conduct themselves pretty well and don't embarrass their grandmother. I doubt Zara would be doing ads if she was a princess but she's not. Zara was a little wild when she was younger but I can't remember Peter doing anything along the lines of some of what William & Harry have been photographed doing.
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Why thank goodness? They seem to conduct themselves pretty well and don't embarrass their grandmother. I doubt Zara would be doing ads if she was a princess but she's not. Zara was a little wild when she was younger but I can't remember Peter doing anything along the lines of some of what William & Harry have been photographed doing.
Absolutely agree GDElla.
Peter always kept a low profile/was very discrete,allthough not at the first,his cousins can certainly learn something from him in the latter.
About Peter and Autumn,love goes beyond any denomination,it is 2007 AD,not BC.Being tenth in line is an unlikely posistion to ever "elevate" to the function of Monarch,so he might as well give up his rights,with all due respect to grandmama,who would probably understand that decision more then some fellow countrymen,be it here or in the UK.
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Yes I cannot see the Royal Marriages Act being altered in a hurry. That opens a Pandora's box best left closed. I agree Peter has been very well behaved and commend him for it. Zara has also tried to be a good granddaughter of the reigning monarch. Princess Anne's decision allowed them both to have some sort of life beyond the royal family. I think that must be a great blessing for her children. I think Peter will either give up his place in the order of succession or Autumn will convert. I cannot imagine Peter causing any problems for his grandmother at all. He is so far down the line of succession he is no longer important, especially with another baby due to be born to the Earl and Countess of Wessex later this year. I think all those not directly in line to the throne must sigh a collective sigh of relief as their chances of becoming monarch become less and less possible. Who after all would want the job? Lady Pamela Hicks once commented on this saying that of course perhaps for a day but for a whole lifetime? She of course is the late Lord Mountbatten's second daughter, younger sister of the current Countess Mountbatten of Burma and first cousin of Prince Philip, husband of Queen Elizabeth II.
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Zara and "Toytown":
http://members3.boardhost.com/Warholm/msg/1186238025.html
Courtesy Marianne,BRMB.
:)
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Here's a real nice clear one of the ring.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/emeraldeyes1969/autumn-kelly-7a.jpg)
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http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/news/2007/09/158.shtml
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An MBE for Zara,Buckingham Palace,yesterday:
http://members3.boardhost.com/Oranjes/msg/1196329469.html
Courtesy Nellie,GREMB.
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Zara looks great in the above picture.
TampaBay
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Zara looks really nice in the picture above...and stylish!
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Courtesy Marianne,BRMB.
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That PR Anne Makes me so MAD!!! She ruined a great outfit with those nasty black shoes!!!
Martyn, you must speak to the Princess Royal about her shoes at your next weekly tea with her!
TampaBay
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The Princess Royal must be doing this to annoy...the pale blue ensemble is more appropriate for Ascot week than chilly late autumn in London. She looks out of sync with the rest of the group in the photo. Her daughter looks great, and appropriate for the season. If the pale blue ensemble made an appearance at Ascot in June, the PR most likely would have worn the very same icky black shoes with it. Somehow the pale blue seems too girlie for the Princess Royal, though the color suited her maternal grandmother so well. Anne could have worn her beloved black pumps with a bronze color ensemble and looked wonderful for this late autumn event. Oh well...perhaps 2008 will be the year the Princess Royal embraces neutrals and ditches pastels.
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TampaBay will have to wait a few more months to see what Princess Anne will wear to her son's wedding. The Sunday Express has announced the wedding date as May 17 2008 (my Ella's 6th birthday :) ). The Queen has given permission to have the Saturday ceremony at St George’s Chapel, Windsor, followed by a reception at Windsor Castle. It's been mentioned that Prince William may serve as best man.
Other royal weddings at St George's:
Prince Edward & Sophie Rhys-Jones (the most recent, I think, though Prince Charles & Camilla had their wedding blessed (?) there after the civil ceremony) in 1999
Edward VII & Queen Alexandra in 1863
Princess Helena & Prince Christian of Schleswig-Holstein in 1866
Princess Louise & the Marquess of Lorne in 1871
Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught & Princess Louise of Prussia in 1879
Prince Leopold, Duke of Albany & Princess Helen of Waldeck-Pyrmont in 1882
Since there were numerous photos of Prince Edward's wedding, despite it being much scaled-down from his sibling's weddings, the public should get a good look at the couple on their wedding day. I'm still pulling for Autumn to wear Princess Alice's Greek Key tiara.
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(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/01_04/zaraMOS2601_468x484.jpg)
From the Daily Mail:
Zara Phillips has signed a £100,000 deal to become the new face of luxury watchmaker Rolex. The first advert to feature the Queen's granddaughter, in American fashion magazine Vanity Fair, shows her with Toytown, the horse on which she became world eventing champion in 2006....as part of this deal Zara, 26, received three of the Swiss firm's high-class watches, including the £6,000 Oyster Perpetual Lady-Date just shown in the advert.
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Also from the Daily Mail:
The Queen's eldest grandson, Peter Phillips, has decided to hold his wedding to Canadian Autumn Kelly in Scotland, sources claimed yesterday. He is said to have chosen the tiny Crathie Kirk, near Balmoral Castle. It is the village church where his mother Princess Anne married for the second time 16 years ago after her divorce from his father, Mark. Some constitutional experts say that unless Peter's fiancee, a staunch Catholic, renounces her faith, he will lose his place in the line of succession to the Throne....The engagement between Peter, 30, and Miss Kelly, 31, a management consultant, was announced in July. However, no mention was made of her religion. Last night a spokesman for Buckingham Palace would only say: "Peter Phillips is a private individual and it is not something we wish to comment on." But the Tablet, a Catholic weekly, has established that she was baptised in 1978 at St John Fisher Catholic Church in Point-Claire, near Montreal. A spokesman for the church said her mother, Kitty, had authorised the information to be disclosed, adding that her daughter was proud of her religion. Cardinal Keith O'Brien, head of the Catholic Church in Scotland, told the Tablet: "Whether a person be 40th or second in line to the throne, it is wrong they be deprived of that right because they have fallen in love and chosen to marry a Roman Catholic." The wedding date is not known but there has been speculation Peter's sister Zara will be a bridesmaid and Prince William best man. "
So, 1) I guess it has been firmly established that Autumn is Catholic 2) she isn't converting and 3) the wedding might not give us the chance to goggle so much at the guests, outfits, etc....if it's held in a more private place than the originally speculated-on St George's Chapel.
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(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/01_04/zaraMOS2601_468x484.jpg)
Hmm...the words "air brushing" come to mind a little when I look at this photo!
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Yes, that horse is far too beautiful. It must have been photogenically enhanced. Still I'll bet she's a stunner without her bridle.......
Shame about the stable girl though..........
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Yes, that horse is far too beautiful. It must have been photogenically enhanced. Still I'll bet she's a stunner without her bridle.......
Shame about the stable girl though..........
mmmeeeeoooowwwww!
;D
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(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/01_04/zaraMOS2601_468x484.jpg)
Hmm...the words "air brushing" come to mind a little when I look at this photo!
Martyn - your perspicacity never ceases to astonish. There are few things better than making someone laugh - that's what you've done for me.
Thanks
tsaria
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(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_03/PhillipsWedDM3007_468x728.jpg)
You know, in a weird way, Peter has an uncanny resemblence to his cousin William!
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You know, in a weird way, Peter has an uncanny resemblence to his cousin William!
I've noticed that quite a few times, Helen A, particularly as they have both grown older.
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Zara almost suffered a nasty tragedy when her live-in boyfriend, Mike Tindall, suffered severe injuries during a rugby match.
From the Daily Mail:
"In fact, the tackle by Welsh opponent Mark Jones left him with a misplaced rib that first punctured a lung and then tore a hole in his liver, which began to bleed.
He was taken to intensive care where, for three nights, Zara and his desperately worried family endured an agonising wait by his bedside while doctors monitored his condition until the bleeding stopped....Tindall was rushed to Hammersmith Hospital in London after the tackle – which happened in front of Zara, who had been cheering him on – midway through the second half of last Saturday's match against Wales at Twickenham...Zara, 26, spent as much time by his bedside as she could and other visitors included her brother, Peter Phillips....Professionally, for both of them, his injury could not have come at a worse time. He missed the World Cup last autumn with a broken leg and had only just fought his way back into the England team, where he had been selected as vice-captain. Zara, the current world three-day eventing champion, is busy preparing for her attempt to win gold at the Beijing Olympics in August and had to combine her hospital visits with intensive training. But both are simply relieved that Tindall lived through one of the worst injuries ever suffered by an England rugby player. The pair have been together since 2003 and share a low-key lifestyle in their renovated labourer's house on Zara's mother's estate in the Cotswolds. Rumours of an engagement are rife and many Royal watchers expect an announcement shortly after the wedding of Zara's brother, Peter, to Canadian Autumn Kelly later this year. Tindall and Zara are devoted to their respective sports, but famously support one another through their triumphs as well as disasters. Unable to do any training himself for the coming weeks, he will at least be able to cheer on his girlfriend and plans to travel with her to a three-week three-day eventing competition in Portugal."
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From the Telegraph:
"Any wedding with Prince William as best man and Zara Phillips as a bridesmaid is unlikely to remain low-key for long. So reports at the weekend that the Queen's eldest grandson, Peter Phillips, and his Canadian bride, Autumn Kelly, below, had decided to wed in the tiny Crathie Kirk, near Balmoral Castle, surprised many. Now, a friend of the couple has set the record straight. "They're actually getting married in St George's Chapel in Windsor Castle," says my source at a party for Glenmorangie whisky. "It can seat up to 800 people, so it'll be quite a big do. Autumn's certainly not thinking low key when it comes to the dress, either. She's having it made by the Fulham-based designer Sassi Holford, who is creating something completely original which will be called The Autumn." Buckingham Palace declined to comment, saying only: "He is a private individual and we don't speak on his behalf.""
If it's true and she wants a 'big do', perhaps we will see some royal jewels brought out for the occasion.
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You know, in a weird way, Peter has an uncanny resemblence to his cousin William!
I've noticed that quite a few times, Helen A, particularly as they have both grown older.
yes, indeed. As each grows older, he gains more of that hanoverian nose and chin and as such grows to look more and more like the other. There's alot of Anne in each...moreso than Diana in my view.
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Zara's official portrait:
http://members3.boardhost.com/Warholm/msg/1204735534.html
Courtesy Lotte,BRMB.
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According to the Telegraph, Autumn Kelly has renounced her Catholic faith:
"The Telegraph can disclose that Autumn Kelly, 29, has recently been accepted into the Church of England....Canadian-born Miss Kelly had been given pastoral advice in Windsor for several months before deciding to convert. Buckingham Palace confirmed that she had been received into the Church. One royal source told The Daily Telegraph: "She was not asked to do this, she did it of her own accord." "
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The Daily Mail has a nice photo of Zara from a magazine cover:
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_01/ZaraGQsportES_468x608.jpg)
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http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2008/05/04/royals-badminton/
:)
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A Gold Medal in the Olympics follwed by a semi-royal wedding!!! A PR dream. GO! Zara GO!
Excuse me, I must phone my dress maker. I hope Martyn is not already booked up!
TampaBay
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A Gold Medal in the Olympics follwed by a semi-royal wedding!!! A PR dream. GO! Zara GO!
Excuse me, I must phone my dress maker. I hope Martyn is not already booked up!
TampaBay
Booked up for years, darling.........
Great photo of Zara........reckon that the airbrushers must have done overtime on that photo.........do we think that her mother did her hair for her??!! (School of heavy-duty lacquer and back-combing coiffing going on here..........)
I wonder why Autumn Kelly has renounced her faith - what real difference would it make, except that she now shares her future husband's faith? (Quite sure that he's not a big church-goer anyhow......)
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An interesting development today is the news that Peter Phillips and his fiancee are to be paid a huge fee for a pre-wedding interview and photo spread in the British celebrity magazine Hello!
While the money may have been too good to refuse (though one could hardly countenance Mr. Phillips being short as the eldest grandchild of the Queen of England), it also further blurs the line between royalty and celebrity, in my opinion. One wonders whether Phillips' decision to grant the interview and photos will also see the end of his previous rather private life and instigate him and his future wife being pursued by the media in the fashion other 'royals' have found so unwelcome.
What do others think?
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=458390 (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=458390)
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You can go to Hello magazine's site and already see many photos from the spread.
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I 'm pretty sure it wouldn't happen but wouldn't it b e nice if the Queen made Peter upon his wedding, The Duke of Cambridge. He would be His Grace, the Duke of Cambridge. afterall, Cambridge was Queen Mary's own Grandfather, and UNcle, and since the qUeen was Q. Mary's favorite grandchild, Peter has been labeled Queen Elizabeths favorite in some books, I thought it would be appropriate.
Anyone else think so?
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No. He has never had any sort of role within the royal family nor represented them in any way. I don't think he warrants any kind of title at this stage.
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A Gold Medal in the Olympics follwed by a semi-royal wedding!!! A PR dream. GO! Zara GO!
Excuse me, I must phone my dress maker. I hope Martyn is not already booked up!
TampaBay
Booked up for years, darling.........
So Anne is keeping you busy these days........
I guess emeraldeyes, Grace and I will have to slum it and go see Dogatella...er...... Donatella or Lagerfeld .
I am sure you will make time in your achedule for GD Ella.........some people have all the luck!
Face is turning green with envy!!!
TampaBay
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Tampa you are a dear to think of me, but I have already made arrangements to borrow something from Hyacinth Bucket. :o Maybe you could borrow something from her sister Rose...lol...
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.........do we think that her mother did her hair for her??!!
lol...You are very cheeky.
Someone on another board mentioned something about trying to look like that Amy Winehouse creature.
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.........do we think that her mother did her hair for her??!!
lol...You are very cheeky.
Someone on another board mentioned something about trying to look like that Amy Winehouse creature.
Yep, I am....just can't help myself.......
Zara's hair is nowhere near as bad as Amy Wino's, who always looks as though she has roadkill stuck on the top of her head (still its a style that must be easy to maintain in the clink, which is where she seems to end up every other week!)
As for Peter Philips and a title - unlikely. Anne has always made it quite clear that her children are not royal (and thus no titles) and that their claim to fame and royalty is through her and their grandmother......
As for the 'Hello' deal, well it was probably easier to control the media circus by doing something organised like this. Some celebrities who go for this kind of deal sometimes give the money to charity (although the Windsors are canny with money, some even say tight-fisted.....)
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There are no grounds at all for giving Peter a title. Nice to think of his wife-to-be as Mrs Peter Phillips rather than Autumn. I mean to say, Autumn as a first name? Can you imagine the Queen's face when told her grandson was marrying a chick with the name of a season? I can imagine Prince Philip - damn silly name, what! She's not that good-looking either. He could have done far better than that. Nothing worse than having ugly totty on ones arm.
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I can imagine Prince Philip - damn silly name, what! She's not that good-looking either. He could have done far better than that. Nothing worse than having ugly totty on ones arm.
Are you saying that Prince Philip might have thought/said this whole bit or are you saying:
She's not that good-looking either. He could have done far better than that. Nothing worse than having ugly totty on ones arm.
If you're saying that last bit, it's rather mean-spirited don't you think?
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Marvellous!!Zara will compete for Britain and participate in Eventing at the Beijing Olympics as was announced today.Zara is World Champion in Eventing.
http://www.royalblog.nl/
scroll down a bit please and click on "news summary" at your left hand,thank you.
;D
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Another story about Zara Phillips winning a spot on the Olympics team
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/24541120/
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i didn't say there were any grounds for awarding the title. just thought it would be nice wedding gift and i love the Cambridge titile.... BUT the queen doesn't need to have any grounds.... She is the "Fountain" On Honour.........
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.........do we think that her mother did her hair for her??!!
lol...You are very cheeky.
Someone on another board mentioned something about trying to look like that Amy Winehouse creature.
Zaras' hair looks effortlessly elegant in the picture,no disrespect but nothing like the Princess Royals' hair-and nothing like Amy Winehouse,frightful creature but wonderfully talented.Her brother[Zaras'] is unlikely to be offered a title and would probably turn it down if his grandmother offered one."Autumn" -funny name but not weird,quite sweet really.The lady is a young Canadian girl,not an eighteenth century Gainsbourgh portrait.
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Can you imagine the Queen's face when told her grandson was marrying a chick with the name of a season? I can imagine Prince Philip - damn silly name, what! She's not that good-looking either. He could have done far better than that. Nothing worse than having ugly totty on ones arm.
Probably the same look she had on her face about 27years ago when she found out his sisters name was Zara.
I think she is quite nice looking. Some people fall in love for more than looks and a name. It rather gives the marriage a better chance of lasting.
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Zaras' hair looks effortlessly elegant in the picture,no disrespect but nothing like the Princess Royals' hair-and nothing like Amy Winehouse,frightful creature but wonderfully talented..
In your opinion. Mine is that backcombed beehive habits are quite possibly inherited.......... ;)
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Dearest Peter:
http://members3.boardhost.com/Oranjes/msg/1210837019.html
courtesy Nellie,GREMB.
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i didn't say there were any grounds for awarding the title. just thought it would be nice wedding gift and i love the Cambridge titile.... BUT the queen doesn't need to have any grounds.... She is the "Fountain" On Honour.........
Any title for Peter would more likely be bestowed by cousin William when/if he becomes king, imo.
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An Excellent Opinion.
TampaBay
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Hmmm.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=566926&in_page_id=1879 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=566926&in_page_id=1879)
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trash................. sounds like somenoe is trying stir up the same dram as was between diana and sarah just to sell papers.... Trash!
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Can't wait until the wedding photos hit.
Based on the Easter hat, Autumn will fit in just fine with the Women of Windsor ;)
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I just picked up the Canadian ediiton of Hello! today and in the interview, Autumn says that when it comes to fashion advice for the big events, she consults Peter's mother! This means many more years of Anne-style recycling for all of us to enjoy!
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At 4PM:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7406056.stm
:)
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i didn't say there were any grounds for awarding the title. just thought it would be nice wedding gift and i love the Cambridge titile.... BUT the queen doesn't need to have any grounds.... She is the "Fountain" On Honour.........
Any title for Peter would more likely be bestowed by cousin William when/if he becomes king, imo.
Sadly titles are out these days ...hense the Wessex family not taking up the Royal style. I presume Harry will be offered a Dukedom but by then he may feel it too old fashioned to take up. Personally I 'd hand out historical titles to all my family...Duke of Cambridge or Kendal,or even Buckingham, Marquess of Wigtoun etc. There is no romance today
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I like Autumn's outfit. For someone who is not stick thin she looks great in the coat dress and hat.
To her credit, she is wearing the hat. The hat is not wearing her.
TampaBay
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The bride
http://picture.belga.be/belgapicture/picture/prev/9166327.jpg
http://picture.belga.be/belgapicture/editorial/all/coverage/488225.html
A very happy couple:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/1975557/Royal-wedding-Autumn-Kelly-and-Peter-Philips-marry-at-Windsor-Castle.html
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Beautiful, thank you Lucien!! The veil is wonderful. I'm very eager to see what the Queen and Princess Anne wore! I'm suprised that Prince William chose to attend the wedding of a friend over that of his cousins. Family must come first!
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Beautiful, thank you Lucien!! The veil is wonderful. I'm very eager to see what the Queen and Princess Anne wore! I'm suprised that Prince William chose to attend the wedding of a friend over that of his cousins. Family must come first!
Maybe that was to avoid all attention going out to him and Kate.
And more,courtesy Lotte and the other posters of the GREMB.
http://members3.boardhost.com/Oranjes/msg/1211039335.html
:)
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Good point!
Just like Prince William to do something so kind and noble.
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Good point!
Just like Prince William to do something so kind and noble.
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_04/autstepsAP1705_800x608.jpg
Lovely picture,HM chatting with Camilla Duchess of Cornwall on the steps.
:)
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Nice photos. But they would not be much different if taken in black and white! Not much color in the clothing choices for the guests or bridesmaids.
The press, even in England, refers to the "royal wedding". Must be simply due to attendance of the QEII and the location, since neither groom nor bride is royal, yes?
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The Duchess looks lovely from what I can see. Princess Anne does look a bit on the plain side sadly. I think hats should be compulsory at a wedding.
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The Duchess looks lovely from what I can see. Princess Anne does look a bit on the plain side sadly. I think hats should be compulsory at a wedding.
The Princess Royal isn't the fashion icon is she?She can if she wants to.Back in the late 60's early 70's she could be daring really.
Agree,hats should be compulsory at weddings,yes.
http://picture.belga.be/belgapicture/picture/prev/9167280.jpg
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Yes it's a shame she could look great, she has a nice figure and long thick hair, and could easily find some wonderful designers. She needs an inspirational ladies maid!!
Zara looks lovely, i'm not certain but I think she has some tan lines. :-[
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Some more;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=566968&in_page_id=1770&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=picbox&ct=5 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=566968&in_page_id=1770&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=picbox&ct=5)
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Some more;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=566968&in_page_id=1770&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=picbox&ct=5 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=566968&in_page_id=1770&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=picbox&ct=5)
Ah,what work to type a whole link can be.
Love the pics,especially Harry kissing his grandmama,lovely. :)
My I ask you all to raise your glasses to the newly weds?
Cheers!
:-*
No Kimberly,glass,not bottle....sorry dearest. ;D
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Cheeky ...:-)
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Zara looks lovely, i'm not certain but I think she has some tan lines. :-[
Definite tan lines. Front and back - but it looks like all the bridesmaids have them so maybe it is a part of the toned-down, casual style of the wedding?
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk53/ee19c/weddingAP1705_468x653.jpg)
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(orig posted by Tamara on the RJOTWMB)
And sorry, but what kind of outfit does Beatrice think she has on? Honestly. Does she think she's Isabella Blow or something?
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk53/ee19c/bea.jpg)
(orig posted by Ariadne on the GREMB)
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This made me laugh out loud...poor Zara's having a difficult time keeping her dress in place, which somehow suprises me...
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk53/ee19c/tug.jpg)
(orig posted by Ariadne on the GREMB)
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Oh heavens you mean this?
http://picture.belga.be/belgapicture/picture/prev/9167175.jpg
:o
The Duke has a suspicious laugh,so do Harry and the Duchess,even HM lost it.I wonder if he dared pull a woopsy again,like he did a few years ago on BP balcony ???
;D
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Oh heavens you mean this?
http://picture.belga.be/belgapicture/picture/prev/9167175.jpg
:o
Yes Lucien, just modified my post to include that pic. Oh, the humanity!
The Duke has a suspicious laugh,so do Harry and the Duchess,even HM lost it.I wonder if he dared pull a woopsy again,like he did a few years ago on BP balcony ???
;D
Well, they are all moving away from Bea, so I'm thinking they're all laughing at her!
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This made me laugh out loud...poor Zara's having a difficult time keeping her dress in place, which somehow suprises me...
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk53/ee19c/tug.jpg)
(orig posted by Ariadne on the GREMB)
Not only a tan line and moles or warts that could have used some makeup, but wow...the triceps on that girl!!!
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I love the colour of the bridesmaids dresses, very pretty and it suits Zara's colouring.
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I couldn't get the message board links to connect for some reason (I don't usually have a problem) so forgive if these are duplicates:
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Really disappointed not to see one of the great old tiaras:
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I really like the dress & veil
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You can access the dozens of images here at Getty:
http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?src=spelling&spell=peter%20phillips&query=z.i.H4sIAAAAAAAEAO29B2AcSZYlJi9tynt_SvVK1-B0oQiAYBMk2JBAEOzBiM3mkuwdaUcjKasqgcplVmVdZhZAzO2dvPfee--999577733ujudTif33_8_XGZkAWz2zkrayZ4hgKrIHz9-fB8_In7dfLn91etf49f4NX6PX_dskV3kvyb9-pj-_5uu8jav09W8KMuyWDW_5gjfRB980WtOn_0m3mf0kWnKP5O6qtqXWZ0tml9LP8PPX2t3B7_-Zvgnof__eu9eXzen78yrv6b3N7-SnZtff039HVB-7ex8arE1f-D_vzZ-7nBHi9a96X7_dahxab-wf-G9X5f-qBd2AOGfvz4-2sVfvx5_PrEwOn_za-chFPsnQ9mxUM47UNzf_FodQrF_MpQ9C6XuQHF_E2VyCwN__Nr6B5NpF7_9hqbtb2w-J5rkK_Pprxn89Wvlrivv918rb8yvv6b3-6_drOybvyb-MKj8VvbFy6l70f3-61S1xxH2L_5qkvtfmb_w_Nqzq6X5_dc0f_w6-H-znjgEg79-7TxzGPh_0O8r_wv7x6_bBNDCP3_td8-eO3rTH_aLrPZw8_74jZpptcqfrJez0iNi8KkB-OOA82DnPlr9P0e4HcLUAwAA#
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Well, they are all moving away from Bea, so I'm thinking they're all laughing at her!
I was thinking exactly the same thing!!
It would seem she was shopping again at the "Little Shop of Horrors".
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I posted this on Beatrice's thread but since it's from the wedding, here it is:
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I don't even know what to say. :-X
And Anne--mud brown, really? With those lovely spring colors the bridesmaids had on? Uck.
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Another look at the dress
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Seeing Beatrice and Eugenie there, I couldn't help but think that in 'the old days' they would've been part of the wedding party as the groom's first cousins.
As for William, he was invited to the other wedding first and said that after discussing it with Peter, it was decided to honor the earlier commitment.
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Is the bride wearing Queen Mary's 'Girls of Great Britain and Ireland' tiara?Elegant dress and veil.The rain didn't seem to dampen the dress or the occassion.The Queen and Duke looked happy,not too tired after their busy week.The grooms mother seems pleased.Hope she and Autumn get on well.
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Is the bride wearing Queen Mary's 'Girls of Great Britain and Ireland' tiara?Elegant dress and veil.The rain didn't seem to dampen the dress or the occassion.The Queen and Duke looked happy,not too tired after their busy week.The grooms mother seems pleased.Hope she and Autumn get on well.
The tiara the bride wore is Princess Anne's Festoon Tiara.
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What Necklace is HRH The Princess Royal wearing?? picture isn't really clear.... it's not part of the set HM King EVII gave to HM Queen Alexandra is it??
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It's this one. I can't recall right now what the provenance of this piece is...
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Does anyone have a better picture of Lady Gabriella Windsor? She looks so nice, she always does look beautiful, like a real Lady.
Beatrice looks too ridiculous for words. I wish Ella was the Princess, not Bea.
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Does anyone have a better picture of Lady Gabriella Windsor? She looks so nice, she always does look beautiful, like a real Lady.
Beatrice looks too ridiculous for words. I wish Ella was the Princess, not Bea.
Ella was always like a princess when at university. Very studious, business-like and polite, a little aloof, probably for her own privacy as much as anything.
She has a lovely speaking voice and was as pretty in "college clothes" as she is in her designer outfits.
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Is the bride wearing Queen Mary's 'Girls of Great Britain and Ireland' tiara?Elegant dress and veil.The rain didn't seem to dampen the dress or the occassion.The Queen and Duke looked happy,not too tired after their busy week.The grooms mother seems pleased.Hope she and Autumn get on well.
The tiara the bride wore is Princess Anne's Festoon Tiara.
Here's Anne
(http://www.fashion-era.com/images/SocialHistory/annefur.jpg)
This site has video of the wedding as well as the guest list, etc...
http://www.britishroyalwedding.com/category/autumn-kelly/
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Autumn's earrings and necklace were from her groom. Her dress, which she paid full price for herself (or her family did) cost GBP 3000. It was designed by Sassi Holford and was an ivory Chantilly lace and duchesse satin gown, with a modest neckline, A-line skirt and a short-sleeved lace bolero. Detailing on the dress included a sun-ray pleat in the front of the bodice lace and a three-tiered waist sash. The full length of the two-yard cathedral train had Chantilly lace insets framed by hand-tied bows with cascading tails. Matching the gown was a beaded Chantilly lace petite jacket and, to complement the gown and jacket, she wore a Swiss silk tulle veil with a hand-beaded Chantilly lace edge. The bridesmaids were in sage green Vera Wang dresses. Mrs Phillips said she wanted to be appropriate rather than trendy.
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It's official then - the Royal Family ARE celebs - a half-million pound deal with "Hello" sez so.
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I just picked up the Canadian ediiton of Hello! today and in the interview, Autumn says that when it comes to fashion advice for the big events, she consults Peter's mother! This means many more years of Anne-style recycling for all of us to enjoy!
OMG, that can't be true!!!! The thrift shops in Gloucestershire will have yet another high-profile customer then......
She must be bonkers.....
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Is that the best that Anne could do? For her son's wedding? Really, someone needs to have a word with her, especially with the Queen and Camilla, who dressed up the the nines. The old penny-pincher could have invested in something better than that drab ensemble......
And on the subject of the Queen and Camilla - are they sharing a milliner now? Very similar headgear, except of course Camilla's has to be bigger I suppose to overwhelm thoroughly her big hair! One can only assume that the object of the exercise is to make her head look bigger so that it minimises the width of her hips!
Tan-lines, strap-marks - what the hell is going on?! These girls must have had at least two fittings for these dresses - didn't it occur to them that they were strapless? Has Zara Philips never heard of San Tropez ( not the place, the product....)? That just looks tacky.
Normally I like Vera Wang but one has to question the wisdom of strapless dresses; as we have said before, they are a pitfall for royal ladies with generous busts and it only would have taken one fool Hooray Henry to step on the back of a dress and 'Hello' would really have had something to print!!
I don't know about 'eau de nil'. The colour of thoise dresses was more like the English sky on Saturday.......dinge........
As for Beatrice - words simply fail me. She looks like she is wearing a school art project on her head......awful.
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It really is a sad day for fashionistas when QEII and Camilla take best dresses honors.
However, the blond in the gray dress behind Beatrice looks very nice. Is this Gabriella Windsor?
TampaBay
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Yes that is Lady Gabriella. The bright blue coat/dress thing worn by I think Lady Davina, I have definitely seen that before, worn by Davina or her sister Lady Rose, I think it was even worn at another wedding. Anne looked so boring. I agree out of the senior royals The Queen and Camilla looked the best. Both Beatrice and Eugenie looked hideous and ridiculous. Aside from Gabriella, Viscountess Linley looked very nice, but once again, hardly any pictures of them are shown.
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Martyn...you crack me up. There is a fabulous frock in the window of Help the Aged in Cheltenham at the moment....muddy brown, green and turquoise with a bit of frou-frou round the hem. I cycle past it every day and can just see Anne in it....maybe for Zara's nuptials?
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Martyn...you crack me up. There is a fabulous frock in the window of Help the Aged in Cheltenham at the moment....muddy brown, green and turquoise with a bit of frou-frou round the hem. I cycle past it every day and can just see Anne in it....maybe for Zara's nuptials?
Cheers Kim - and ditto!
That dress sounds right up Anne's street, but she probably finds the price tag a bit too steep........ ;) And you are right, it sounds perfect for Zara's nuptials, should they ever come to pass. Imagine, Anne in that confection and Zara strapless with tan-lines and perhaps some tattoos by then??!!
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With Mike in a white undershirt and a gold-capped front tooth; Harry alongside as best man holding a pint with a ciggie tucked behind his ear.
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I've just read that Hello! has devoted 59 of its pages to the wedding of Peter Phillips and Autumn Kelly...fifty-nine pages! I find that extraordinary. Personally, I doubt I could wade through 59 pages of anyone's wedding!!!
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A close-up of the tiara. Autumn did look lovely and elegant--it's a shame that Beatrice wore an outfit that would garner so much attention on the bride's day.
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Questions have today been raised in Westminster about the deal with Hello magazine and Peter Phillips. It has been asked "Should the Queen share a spread in the same magazine as footballers WAGS for commercial gain??"
What we are watching is the death throws of the Family Windsor - once QEII has died who is left Prince Billy, Prince Hal, Princess Bea and Chelsey and Kate. Hhmmmm.
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Herein lies the problem. It is a Catch-22 situation. Peter is not an HRH and is not an official member of the Royal family. Peter does not receive a Civil List Payment. He and his new wife must make there own way because the tax payers of the U.K. do not want to financially Peter or his sister Zara.
Wills, Harry and the York Princesses are a different matter because they are HRHs and are official members of the Royal Family.
I have no solution for this problem.
TampaBay
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I tend to agree here, TB. There's interest (hence the spread & money) in the couple, at least during this wedding time. Yet, he is 'just' a Mister. People don't want royals to have their cake and eat it too but it works both ways--non-royals (which is what he is despite his connections) shouldn't be held to the same standards as William, Harry, Beatrice and Eugenie should be as they have moved, or will move, into the forefront. It does seem ironic, though, that the more non-royal the member of the family, the better the behavior (Sarah Chatto, the Gloucester children, the Ogilvies) for the most part.
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Compliments of osoblog.tv:
So, this week's issue of Hello! is out - and with it, 100 (count 'em!) pages of coverage of the wedding of Peter Phillips and Autumn Kelly at Windsor Castle.
According to the magazine, "a collective gasp went up as Autumn walked down the aisle" - not because she had turned into a man, or anything, but because she looked "radiant in a magnificent ivory creation by Fulham-based designer Sassi Holford".
Autumn was followed by Winter bridesmaids, including Zara Phillips, wearing strapless Vera Wang gowns in a shade described by Hello! as "Kelly green" and by the rest of us as "a sort of pale, bluey-green".
Now, unfortunately because the bride and groom struck a controversial £500,000 deal with Hello! magazine (well, what else are you supposed to do when Princess Anne won't pay for your wedding?), I can't actually show you pictures of Kate Middleton and Chelsy Davy on the day.
So you'll have to just paint a picture in your head, I'm afraid.
Picture 1, Chelsy Davy: imagine a young Rachel Hunter wearing a three-quarter-length black and white floral dress, with a black jacket.
Picture 2, Kate Middleton: imagine a young Liz Hurley wearing a pale pink fitted jacket, a black knee-length skirt, and a black pillbox hat with a netted veil.
I know, it's like you were there, isn't it?
TampaBay
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Questions have today been raised in Westminster about the deal with Hello magazine and Peter Phillips. It has been asked "Should the Queen share a spread in the same magazine as footballers WAGS for commercial gain??"
What we are watching is the death throws of the Family Windsor - once QEII has died who is left Prince Billy, Prince Hal, Princess Bea and Chelsey and Kate. Hhmmmm.
I wouldn't have put it quite the same way as Joan but, in essence, I agree with what she is saying. It seems to me the royal family is not only down-sizing but heading down-market as well. It's just very sad.
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I think it is about time that all of the people in the UK and Commonwealth get a grip on the problems with a Royal Family. If you have a Royal Family then they must be financially supported. With this financial support comes the expectation that the Royal family will conduct themselves in a certain way acceptable to the majority of their subjects. Or as my mother aand father always reminded me...as long as your riding on our gravy thrain you will do things the way we want them done!
The Queen, her consort The Duke and Princess Anne are the models of this acceptable behavior. They are viewed as being very busy and working very hard doing absolutely nothing…i.e. charity work and official appearances to acknowledge and/or whatever.
The public cannot talk out of both sides of their mouths while eating their cake and having it to. If someone was stupid enough to offer me 500,000 BPS for pictures of my wedding and reception, I would be smart enough to grab the money and deposit it off shore before the ink was dry on the check. If The Queen or Princess Anne did not want Peter to take the deal, they could have stopped the whole thing in a New York second or forced him to donate all the loot gained to Anne's charity, Save The Children.
Think about it....
TampaBay
P.S.
I apologize in advance to all people I may offend with the above post.
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Liberal Democrat MP Norman Lamb said the deal, which included unprecedented access to St George's Chapel, could damage the monarchy, adding: "If you want to maintain the institution you actually have to avoid commercialising it and shifting it in the direction of celebrity footballers."
Dickie Arbiter, a former assistant press secretary to the Queen, said: "I find the pictures inside St George's Chapel particularly intrusive. Although it was billed as a private wedding, when it comes to the Queen nothing is private.
Here are the quotes from the Daily Mail. I am sorry Tampa Bay - it isn't the GBP who are "having their cake and eating it" (most are totally indifferent) but the Royal Family. As a British subject, I do not have a choice but to contribute to funding these people. However, I do have the right to comment about them and their lurid goings-on. For a family with such wealth to be so money grubbing is unseemly in the extreme.
By the way, I would much sooner hear what people really feel - and if I'm offended in the process, so be it.
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If The Queen or Princess Anne did not want Peter to take the deal, they could have stopped the whole thing in a New York second or forced him to donate all the loot gained to Anne's charity, Save The Children.
Think about it....
TampaBay
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I apologize in advance to all people I may offend with the above post.
I've never known you to give offence yet, Tampa! However, do we even know that Peter Phillips consulted his mother or the Queen before accepting the magazine deal? I mean, did Prince William ask his father or his grandmother before he went helicopter joyriding...does Prince Harry consult them when he downs a few too many at Boujis?
I just can't accept that the Queen's family consults her over every decision they make that's all. I think HM gives her advice if she's asked for it, otherwise just hopes everyone will show common-sense and discretion in their choices. ??
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But Peter Phillips doesn't have such wealth. I'm sure he's better off than us but certainly not on the level of his grandmother, uncle or male cousins. Nor, I would think, does the Kelly family.
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Compliments of osoblog.tv:
So, this week's issue of Hello! is out - and with it, 100 (count 'em!) pages of coverage of the wedding of Peter Phillips and Autumn Kelly at Windsor Castle.
According to the magazine, "a collective gasp went up as Autumn walked down the aisle" - not because she had turned into a man, or anything, but because she looked "radiant in a magnificent ivory creation by Fulham-based designer Sassi Holford".
Autumn was followed by Winter bridesmaids, including Zara Phillips, wearing strapless Vera Wang gowns in a shade described by Hello! as "Kelly green" and by the rest of us as "a sort of pale, bluey-green".
Now, unfortunately because the bride and groom struck a controversial £500,000 deal with Hello! magazine (well, what else are you supposed to do when Princess Anne won't pay for your wedding?), I can't actually show you pictures of Kate Middleton and Chelsy Davy on the day.
So you'll have to just paint a picture in your head, I'm afraid.
Picture 1, Chelsy Davy: imagine a young Rachel Hunter wearing a three-quarter-length black and white floral dress, with a black jacket.
Picture 2, Kate Middleton: imagine a young Liz Hurley wearing a pale pink fitted jacket, a black knee-length skirt, and a black pillbox hat with a netted veil.
I know, it's like you were there, isn't it?
TampaBay
The Daily Mail has pictures from Hello.
Kate
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_04/003middletonMOS_468x652.jpg)
Kate & Chelsy
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_04/katechelsey_468x376.jpg)
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If The Queen or Princess Anne did not want Peter to take the deal, they could have stopped the whole thing in a New York second or forced him to donate all the loot gained to Anne's charity, Save The Children.
Think about it....
TampaBay
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I apologize in advance to all people I may offend with the above post.
I've never known you to give offence yet, Tampa! However, do we even know that Peter Phillips consulted his mother or the Queen before accepting the magazine deal? I mean, did Prince William ask his father or his grandmother before he went helicopter joyriding...does Prince Harry consult them when he downs a few too many at Boujis?
I just can't accept that the Queen's family consults her over every decision they make that's all. I think HM gives her advice if she's asked for it, otherwise just hopes everyone will show common-sense and discretion in their choices. ??
According to the Daily Mail, the Queen wasn't consulted:
"Senior members of the Royal Family refused to be photographed by Hello! at Peter Phillips's wedding on Saturday. Neither the Queen nor the Duke of Edinburgh was consulted over the controversial decision by Princess Anne's son to sell the exclusive rights to the Windsor Castle ceremony and reception for £500,000. So courtiers made sure their pictures were not taken for the magazine. The damage-limitation exercise also extended to Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, the Duke of York and the Earl and Countess of Wessex....They all made a point of posing on the steps of St George's Chapel for newspaper photographers. Only minor members of the Windsor dynasty plus friends and relatives of the bride, Autumn Kelly, took part in the magazine photoshoot expected to appear over more than 20 pages this week.
The official, non-Hello photograph
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_04/3queen1DM1805_468x373.jpg)
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But Peter Phillips doesn't have such wealth
TOUGH !!!! He should not, however, be cashing in on his status within the RF - a mere accident of birth - but try earning his money like the rest of us.
Anyway, we won't have to worry much longer. With celebrity status comes the vagaries of public interest or disinterest as the case may be.
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The 'such wealth' was in response to a previous post. I hadn't seen your post right after it or I would've used the quote button to avoid confusion.
I still wonder, was the bride's family wanting to pay for this (ala tradition & pride) and this was a way for Peter & Autumn to off-set some costs without obligating either her family nor going to his.
Edit--Marlene provided somewhat of an answer on the BRMB:
An article in today's Mail notes that Anne would not pay for the wedding (but did not have an issue with the Hello coverage), nor could Mark help out and Autumn's family could not have afforded the expense.
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I've never known you to give offence yet, Tampa! .
Thank you Grace for the compliment on my posting behavior.
Some times (very rarely) I get on my high horse.
TanpaBay
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Edit--Marlene provided somewhat of an answer on the BRMB:
An article in today's Mail notes that Anne would not pay for the wedding (but did not have an issue with the Hello coverage), nor could Mark help out and Autumn's family could not have afforded the expense.
If Marlene posted then I believe it must be true. Marlene does not post anything nor lend her name to anything unless she is confident it is true.
I rest my case!!!!
Thank You Marlene for the information!
TampaBay
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Does anyone know who paid for the following weddings:
Anne & Mark -
Charles & Diana - The State??? ( I am assuming this wedding was an occasion of State like say a coronation)
Andrew & Sarah -
Edward & Sohpie -
The rumor of Anne refusing to pay for Peter's wedding got me wondering.
TampaBay
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Why on earth would they marry in St Georges if they are so poor and wish to remain out of the limelight. Another nail in the coffin...and those ghastly women Chelsy and Middleton. I give Autumn 5 years before she falls.
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Norbet,
If you were the dictator of the world, who would you match with William and Harry?
I am very curious!
TampaBay
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This is a great article regarding if the queen did or did not lnow aboutthe photo spread.
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news/columnists/2008/05/23/hello-surely-gran-was-in-the-picture-over-magazine-91466-20962360/
TampaBay
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To me, it just seems that the Queen might have agreed to it after the fact to spare her grandson any legal fallout if he pulled out of the deal. The article still doesn't prove she knew about it beforehand.
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GD,
I did not mean to imply that she did or did not know about the deal before hand. I was surfing the net and forund the article. I thought the author's perspective was interesting and would be of interest to other Ally Pally posters.
TampaBay
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Another perspective on the HELLO! deal.
http://living.scotsman.com/features/Who39d-want-to-be-a.4102968.jp
TampaBay
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I give Autumn 5 years before she falls.
Is that a pun? Autumn? Fall? Seriously though, I hope their marriage doesn't go the way of so many other members of Peter's family. I believe Autumn's parents are divorced also. It's said 90% of marriage failure is due to money issues. Now Peter and Autumn have had a taste of the money they can earn by their royal connections, it's probably only a matter of time before we see more spreads on them...inside their home...their first baby and so on... In the end, it may put far more pressure on them than if they'd kept their previous anonymity.
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GD,
I did not mean to imply that she did or did not know about the deal before hand. I was surfing the net and forund the article. I thought the author's perspective was interesting and would be of interest to other Ally Pally posters.
TampaBay
I know, TB. I read the article and was referring to it and not you.
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From CTV News:
"After criticism of a 59-page spread of her grandson's wedding photos in a glossy magazine, Queen Elizabeth has reportedly banned the selling of press access to future Royal events.
The ban comes just days after Hello! magazine was granted unprecedented access to the Windsor Chapel during Saturday's wedding of Peter Phillips and Canadian-born Autumn Kelly.
Hello! published pictures Wednesday from the ceremony and reception, which included formal portraits of the Royal Family. It is widely believed the Queen had no idea she was posing for pictures as part of a commercial arrangement.
The magazine is said to have paid Phillips and Kelly C$975,000 for the exclusive opportunity to attend the lavish event. "
The full article can be read at:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080522/royal_wedding_080522/20080522?hub=Specials
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Norbet,
If you were the dictator of the world, who would you match with William and Harry?
I am very curious!
TampaBay
Sorry i missed your message....WELL obviously Pss Madeleine of Sweden for William, what a lovely Queen she would make. Harry needs a strong lady to keep him in check , no other than Charlotte Casiraghi
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Harry needs a strong lady to keep him in check , no other than Charlotte Casiraghi
What qualities of strength has she shown? She's an accomplished horse rider and socialite. As far as I can see, there's little else to be said for her. She's also Roman Catholic as you would know.
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Harry needs a strong lady to keep him in check , no other than Charlotte Casiraghi
I think Chelsy Davy is quite a strong lady myself.
TampaBay
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Now Peter and Autumn have had a taste of the money they can earn by their royal connections, it's probably only a matter of time before we see more spreads on them...inside their home...their first baby and so on...
Did not Andrew and Sarah sell pictures of their young daughters to HELLO!. I think Andrew did the photography.
I think it really upset the Queen Mum.
Am I going crazy remembering sonething from the past that did not happen. Time to put the wine up.
LOL!
TampaBay
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Now Peter and Autumn have had a taste of the money they can earn by their royal connections, it's probably only a matter of time before we see more spreads on them...inside their home...their first baby and so on...
Did not Andrew and Sarah sell pictures of their young daughters to HELLO!. I think Andrew did the photography.
I think it really upset the Queen Mum.
Am I going crazy remembering sonething from the past that did not happen. Time to put the wine up.
LOL!
TampaBay
Yes, they did. And I believe Sarah also gave HELLO an exclusive on "SouthYork", the garish home The Queen had built for them.
The HELLO articles caused the Queen Mother much less irritation compared to Edward's ridiculous "The Royal Knockabout"...something she was absolutely livid about.
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From the AP:
"A British newspaper says the Canadian bride of the Queen's eldest grandson is being blamed for a controversial deal with celebrity magazine Hello! for exclusive photos of their wedding at Windsor Castle...The newspaper said senior royals, including the Queen, were upset that the Royal Family has been accused of “selling out” for commercial gain by allowing access to St. George's Chapel. The Daily Mail's website quoted a "royal insider" saying: "The blame is being laid at her (Kelly's) door." But the newspaper later reported that Mr. Phillips had given the final approval for the million-dollar deal along with Ms. Kelly. The report said the Royal Family was not consulted on the deal with Hello! – said to be worth $1-million – and only found out about it when an interview with the couple appeared in the magazine last week. The Daily Mail quoted another royal source saying Ms. Kelly had to make the reported deal because of the expense and the fact no one else would pick up the tab. A senior royal source quoted by The Telegraph newspaper said a similar arrangement will not happen again. “In hindsight it should never have happened in the first place.”...On Thursday the gossip website Royal Anecdotes said princes William and Harry let it be known they are unhappy. It quoted a royal source saying: "Neither Peter nor the magazine sought their approval, and, if they had, it certainly would not have been given. What has happened has not gone down well at all.""
Don't know why William is unhappy--he wasn't even there!
Whatever your feelings about the deal, and I think it was a mistake in hindsight (though if she, Peter and her family were going to foot the bill I can understand it) I do feel bad for Autumn--this should be the happiest time of her life and its being engulfed by this issue. If either of them should get the blame in the family, it should be Peter. She's a novice to the royal family but he was born into it. Welcome to the royal family, Autumn.
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Now Peter and Autumn have had a taste of the money they can earn by their royal connections, it's probably only a matter of time before we see more spreads on them...inside their home...their first baby and so on...
Did not Andrew and Sarah sell pictures of their young daughters to HELLO!. I think Andrew did the photography.
I think it really upset the Queen Mum.
Am I going crazy remembering sonething from the past that did not happen. Time to put the wine up.
LOL!
TampaBay
Yes, they did. And I believe Sarah also gave HELLO an exclusive on "SouthYork", the garish home The Queen had built for them.
The HELLO articles caused the Queen Mother much less irritation compared to Edward's ridiculous "The Royal Knockabout"...something she was absolutely livid about.
The Hello articles, if I recall correctly, along with leaving Beatrice behind on the Australian trip, really seemed to start the souring of public opinion on Sarah. I remember the Royal Knockabout! I think I even have it on some old VHS tape somewhere. :-X
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From the AP:
"A British newspaper says the Canadian bride of the Queen's eldest grandson is being blamed for a controversial deal with celebrity magazine Hello! for exclusive photos of their wedding at Windsor Castle...The newspaper said senior royals, including the Queen, were upset that the Royal Family has been accused of “selling out” for commercial gain by allowing access to St. George's Chapel. The Daily Mail's website quoted a "royal insider" saying: "The blame is being laid at her (Kelly's) door." But the newspaper later reported that Mr. Phillips had given the final approval for the million-dollar deal along with Ms. Kelly. The report said the Royal Family was not consulted on the deal with Hello! – said to be worth $1-million – and only found out about it when an interview with the couple appeared in the magazine last week. The Daily Mail quoted another royal source saying Ms. Kelly had to make the reported deal because of the expense and the fact no one else would pick up the tab. A senior royal source quoted by The Telegraph newspaper said a similar arrangement will not happen again. “In hindsight it should never have happened in the first place.”...On Thursday the gossip website Royal Anecdotes said princes William and Harry let it be known they are unhappy. It quoted a royal source saying: "Neither Peter nor the magazine sought their approval, and, if they had, it certainly would not have been given. What has happened has not gone down well at all.""
Don't know why William is unhappy--he wasn't even there!
Whatever your feelings about the deal, and I think it was a mistake in hindsight (though if she, Peter and her family were going to foot the bill I can understand it) I do feel bad for Autumn--this should be the happiest time of her life and its being engulfed by this issue. If either of them should get the blame in the family, it should be Peter. She's a novice to the royal family but he was born into it. Welcome to the royal family, Autumn.
Of course Autumn is going to take the blame. It's usual practice for the "outsiders" to be held responsible for bad decisions.
As for William and Harry not being happy.... I hardly think those two are the definitive authority regarding "royal" behaviour.
Hey William, been out on any interesting helicopter rides lately??
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From the AP:
"A British newspaper says the Canadian bride of the Queen's eldest grandson is being blamed for a controversial deal with celebrity magazine Hello! for exclusive photos of their wedding at Windsor Castle...The newspaper said senior royals, including the Queen, were upset that the Royal Family has been accused of “selling out” for commercial gain by allowing access to St. George's Chapel. The Daily Mail's website quoted a "royal insider" saying: "The blame is being laid at her (Kelly's) door." But the newspaper later reported that Mr. Phillips had given the final approval for the million-dollar deal along with Ms. Kelly. The report said the Royal Family was not consulted on the deal with Hello! – said to be worth $1-million – and only found out about it when an interview with the couple appeared in the magazine last week. The Daily Mail quoted another royal source saying Ms. Kelly had to make the reported deal because of the expense and the fact no one else would pick up the tab. A senior royal source quoted by The Telegraph newspaper said a similar arrangement will not happen again. “In hindsight it should never have happened in the first place.”...On Thursday the gossip website Royal Anecdotes said princes William and Harry let it be known they are unhappy. It quoted a royal source saying: "Neither Peter nor the magazine sought their approval, and, if they had, it certainly would not have been given. What has happened has not gone down well at all.""
Don't know why William is unhappy--he wasn't even there!
Whatever your feelings about the deal, and I think it was a mistake in hindsight (though if she, Peter and her family were going to foot the bill I can understand it) I do feel bad for Autumn--this should be the happiest time of her life and its being engulfed by this issue. If either of them should get the blame in the family, it should be Peter. She's a novice to the royal family but he was born into it. Welcome to the royal family, Autumn.
As for William and Harry not being happy.... I hardly think those two are the definitive authority regarding "royal" behaviour.
Agree. If this is true, it's a tad absurd for these two (especially Prince Harry) to be supposedly upset about their girlfriends being photographed by a celebrity magazine attending a wedding. They themselves have been photographed in far less decorous circumstances.
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EXCUSE ME! but i was asked what if I was dictaitor (or Holy Roman Emperor) Norbert I and anyone called Chelsey gets a veto
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Holy Roman Emperor Norbert I,
Your HRH,
I think you will make an excellent Dictator.
TampaBay
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Holy Roman Emperor Norbert I,
Your HRH,
I think you will make an excellent Dictator.
TampaBay
HA! lol...
As for William and Harry not being happy.... I hardly think those two are the definitive authority regarding "royal" behaviour.
Agreed. It's a bit rich isn't it?
Personally I find it hard to believe that all these people who are reportedly 'unhappy' had no idea about the deal beforehand. Hello! certainly didn't keep it a secret.
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Imperial Majesty PLEASE.... and like the famous mis-quote of poor King Umberto II as he went into exile , I'll ," make you all Counts " x
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A quote from yesterday's "Sunday Telegraph" "Peter Phillips: The man who DID sell his Grandmother !"
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all very sad...every royal for themselves
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A quote from yesterday's "Sunday Telegraph" "Peter Phillips: The man who DID sell his Grandmother !"
What was the quote?
TampaBay
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Great Article!
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/columnists/lindy-mcdowell/article3723696.ece
TampaBay
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Peter & Autumn have about as much a chance of ascending the throne as Posh & Becks! The Chukka Brothers are different though. The freewheeling, helicopter, nightclubbing, partying princes Harry and Wills are that bit closer to the throne and therefore that much more likely to come under scrutiny.
It isn't the sold-off wedding pictures of an inconsequential cousin that are doing the damage. It's those tales of royal excess among the actual heirs that are really WAGing the House of Windsor.
I must agree with the above exert from the linked article.
TampaBay
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I tend to agree with those lines from the article, as well. However, it does beg the question as to why QE appeared to be so publicly annoyed at the nuptials for doing so. With QE's somewhat legendary ability to close ranks and let the PR machine take over, her snit seemed a bit unexpected, imo.
Or, do you think she was trying to deflect any negative attitudes about her #2 and #3 by throwing poor Peter under the bus?
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Here are most of the pics from the Canadian edition of Hello!
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I seem to have cut out a few people here (bride and groom)...
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Unless there is some picture in the British ediiton of the Queen jumping out of the wedding cake wearing pasties , I frankly don't see what all the fuss is about. Almost everyone pictured has been shown in the same magazine in a far less flattering photo. The Queen is not pictured at the reception, same with the POW and the Duchess of Cornwall.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Queen's outfit look like a re-cycled version of Camilla Parker-Bowles' wedding outfit from a couple of years ago ?? Comparisons please (I don't have the facility).
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Anne's outfit looks much better in the HELLO! pictures than in the official pictures.
TampaBay
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Kate, Chelsy and Harry certainly look to be having a great time. It's nice to know that I'm not the only one who wanders around at weddings looking for my place card...
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The dance floor was 'mirrored'. Kind of a hazard if you're wearing a short skirt...lol.
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From the Telegraph
It's Hello! again
The Duke of Gloucester's daughter Lady Rose Windsor may have turned down a lucrative offer from Hello! to cover her wedding, as I reported last week, but the magazine has lost none of its appeal to other members of the Royal family.
Mandrake can disclose that the usually reclusive Duchess of Kent will appear on seven pages of Hello! this week with her daughter, Lady Helen Taylor. "The article will focus on their charity work," says my man at the Windsors' house journal.
(cross-posted)
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I heard on the news today that Zara has had to pull out of the olympics because her poor old horse is injured. No doubt she is dissapointed.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/11062008/58/beijing-2008-zara-phillips-olympics.html
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Thanks for the update eddieboy. What a dreadful disappointment.
another link -
http://www.hellomagazine.ca/royalty/2008/06/11/zara-olympics-out/ (http://www.hellomagazine.ca/royalty/2008/06/11/zara-olympics-out/)
Maybe an engagement ring would cheer her up? : o
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She must be well and truly gutted about this.
It's such a shame, as the mount of work and preparation that goes in to something like this is immense.......
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Autumn and Peter honeymoon info...
http://www.hellomagazine.ca/news/20080625317/peter/autumn/honeymoon/1/ (http://www.hellomagazine.ca/news/20080625317/peter/autumn/honeymoon/1/)
Also, apparently Mike and Zara are on a romantic holiday to Bali or Fiji or someplace of that type, will Mike be packing a diamond? Stay tuned!
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Autumn and Peter honeymoon info...
http://www.hellomagazine.ca/news/20080625317/peter/autumn/honeymoon/1/ (http://www.hellomagazine.ca/news/20080625317/peter/autumn/honeymoon/1/)
Also, apparently Mike and Zara are on a romantic holiday to Bali or Fiji or someplace of that type, will Mike be packing a diamond? Stay tuned!
Oh I do hope so. I can't wait for the first royal chav wedding........
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Oh I do hope so. I can't wait for the first royal chav wedding........
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Not sure when this was taken...
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from the Daily Mail site.
As part of a longer article on the new etiquette for ladies...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1033168/Debs-aint-The-celebrities-flout-new-etiquette-guide-modern-women.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1033168/Debs-aint-The-celebrities-flout-new-etiquette-guide-modern-women.html)
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"Etiquette" is sadly something from a bygone era now. The appearance of Zara Phillips in the red dress demonstrates this amply.
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"Etiquette" is sadly something from a bygone era now. The appearance of Zara Phillips in the red dress demonstrates this amply.
LOL etiquette = braslessness
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Not enough support in that dress for her bust. She looks cheap, tacky and the dress is awful. All pretty much as usual........
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From GREMB
Autumn & Peter at Rose's wedding
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Zara participated in the Military at the dutch town of Boekelo last weekend,she wasn't very lucky tho.......
Her parents were in attendance but were unnoticed by the press,good.
http://www.dutchphotopress.com/Collection.aspx?id=332
http://www.dutchphotopress.com/Collection.aspx?id=331
Courtesy Dutchphotopress/Patrick van Katwijk.
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Not sure when this was taken...
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from the Daily Mail site.
As part of a longer article on the new etiquette for ladies...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1033168/Debs-aint-The-celebrities-flout-new-etiquette-guide-modern-women.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1033168/Debs-aint-The-celebrities-flout-new-etiquette-guide-modern-women.html)
Gawd what a ghastly picture. Obviously not paying her dressmakers bills and that man....hidden attributes?
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poor horse:
http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2008/10/zara-breaks-col.html
courtesy Royalblog.
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Charity calenders,so neat..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1085858/What-Queen-think-Rugby-star-Mike-Tindall-shows-girlfriend-Zara-Philips-new-oiled-torso.html
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Charity calenders,so neat..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1085858/What-Queen-think-Rugby-star-Mike-Tindall-shows-girlfriend-Zara-Philips-new-oiled-torso.html
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Oeff,less neat,more thug......
http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2009/03/even-mike-tindall-cannot-save-england.html
courtesy hja
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Mike has lovely legs, has anyone else noticed?
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Trust you to spot that !!! :-)
He likes drink driving too
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Trust you to spot that !!! :-)
He likes drink driving too
Oh Kimbo, I just KNEW you wouldn't have missed them either!!
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Trust you to spot that !!! :-)
He likes drink driving too
Oh Kimbo, I just KNEW you wouldn't have missed them either!!
Your l-eggs Sir
http://gpdhome.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c648253ef011168a15ef8970c-pi
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God bless you Lucien!!! We can always rely on you to generously post wonderful links & images!! :)
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Calm down and remember your blood pressure !!
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Peter and Autumn Phillips became first-time parents Wednesday, having a baby girl. The baby weighed in at 8 lbs, 8oz.
""Mr. Peter Phillips was present at the birth," Queen Elizabeth's press secretary tells Usmagazine.com in a statement. "The Queen, The Duke of Edinburgh, The Princess Royal, Captain Mark Phillips and Autumn's family have been informed and are delighted with the news."
I hadn't realized that Peter and Autumn were living in Hong Kong up until right before the baby's birth.
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What a wonderful news!!! Congratulations to the couple.
As for Zara...(courtesy of PDV)
With her fiance,
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The ring
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Peter and Autumn Phillips became first-time parents Wednesday, having a baby girl. The baby weighed in at 8 lbs, 8oz.
""Mr. Peter Phillips was present at the birth," Queen Elizabeth's press secretary tells Usmagazine.com in a statement. "The Queen, The Duke of Edinburgh, The Princess Royal, Captain Mark Phillips and Autumn's family have been informed and are delighted with the news."
I hadn't realized that Peter and Autumn were living in Hong Kong up until right before the baby's birth.
If this source is correct, Peter & Autumn have named their little girl Savannah Phillips. No palace confirmation yet.
http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/royal_baby_is_named_savannah_1_765434
I wonder if Peter will transfer back to England now that the baby has arrived?
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Peter and Autumn Phillips became first-time parents Wednesday, having a baby girl. The baby weighed in at 8 lbs, 8oz.
""Mr. Peter Phillips was present at the birth," Queen Elizabeth's press secretary tells Usmagazine.com in a statement. "The Queen, The Duke of Edinburgh, The Princess Royal, Captain Mark Phillips and Autumn's family have been informed and are delighted with the news."
I hadn't realized that Peter and Autumn were living in Hong Kong up until right before the baby's birth.
If this source is correct, Peter & Autumn have named their little girl Savannah Phillips. No palace confirmation yet.
http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/royal_baby_is_named_savannah_1_765434
I wonder if Peter will transfer back to England now that the baby has arrived?
No,why would he?Millions of babies grow up abroad,no reason to move at all.
http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/01/edp-royal-baby-will-be-called-savannah.html
courtesy hja
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Quite right, Lucien.
Peter Phillips and his wife lived in Hong Kong because of his job with the Royal Bank of Scotland but they have apparently now transferred back to London where he works for the same bank.
Don't know about anyone else, but I have more trouble believing that Princess Anne is a GRANDMOTHER than I do Queen Elizabeth being a great-grandmother. Wouldn't it be cute if Anne's already presented her new granddaughter with a tiny SADDLE as a welcoming gift?!!!
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I too find it quite difficult to think of Princess Anne as a grandmother. As it happens, the first time I saw her was when she was 18 and on her first visit abroad without her parents (she accompaniied Prince Charles on a trip to Malta. How time passes.
Ann
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Buckingham Palace announced Zara Phillips and Mike Tindall will get married on july 30th.
http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2011/03/zara-and-mike-to-wed-july-30.html
courtesy hja
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Peter and Autumn Phillips became first-time parents Wednesday, having a baby girl. The baby weighed in at 8 lbs, 8oz.
""Mr. Peter Phillips was present at the birth," Queen Elizabeth's press secretary tells Usmagazine.com in a statement. "The Queen, The Duke of Edinburgh, The Princess Royal, Captain Mark Phillips and Autumn's family have been informed and are delighted with the news."
I hadn't realized that Peter and Autumn were living in Hong Kong up until right before the baby's birth.
If this source is correct, Peter & Autumn have named their little girl Savannah Phillips. No palace confirmation yet.
http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/royal_baby_is_named_savannah_1_765434
I wonder if Peter will transfer back to England now that the baby has arrived?
this is true, the baby has definatley been called savannah, i wrote congratulating the queen and duke of edinburgh on the birth and got a letter back which said that the baby was called savannah. i love the name but not entirely sure if its royalty appropriate
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Peter Phillips and his wife aren't royal and therefore don't perform any royal duties so I doubt they were under any restrictions as to what they could name their baby.
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yes, but isn't savannah still like 12th in line to the throne (not sure if it is 12th...might be 11th), i know the chance of her getting the throne is next to impossible, going on the fact that most of the immediate royal family would have to be wiped out, but still. don't get me wrong, i love the name!
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Savannah? Oh dear....
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Savannah? Oh dear....
Geographical names from the State of Georgia must be a new royal trend: Savannah Philips's fifth cousin's name is Emma Tallulah Behn, Tallulah being a Georgian river where "Deliverance" was shot!
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I see! Oh well, why not I suppose! Still being a great grand daughter of the Queen I think a more historical name would have been more appropriate. :)
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Tallulah was also the name of a popular actress, popular especially in Britain, Tallulah Bankhead. also Tallulah Falls, Alabama. Still, an odd name for a royal it might seem.
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'Still being a great grand daughter of the Queen I think a more historical name would have been more appropriate.'
I agree. The first time I came across Savannah as a name as distinct from a geographical feature, it was the name of a horse, and that is what I still associate it with!
Much better if they'd called the child Elizabeth after her great-grandmother.
Ann (Elizabeth)
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Come to think of it though, although I like the name, I suppose Zara ia slightly unusual? I wonder why Princess Anne chose that one too.
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IF am not mistaken, Zara is the name of a close friend of the Princess Royal.
When it comes down to it, it is solely the decision of the parents to name the child whatever they wish,is it not ? And in their case, they are so far from the throne, there is no real need for any historical connection.
And, come to think of it, I have know a couple of Savannahs overs the years. It is a nice name Although not really common, it is not unusual for Americans to give place names to children. My partner's middle name comes fro a county his family is historically linked too.
I am curious, though, where Tallulah comes in, as I am a big fan of the late, camp, Tallulah Bankhead.
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Tallulah was also the name of a popular actress, popular especially in Britain, Tallulah Bankhead. also Tallulah Falls, Alabama.
No, Tallulah Falls is in Georgia. Tallulah Bankhead was from Alabama.
I am curious, though, where Tallulah comes in, as I am a big fan of the late, camp, Tallulah Bankhead.
If I remember correctly, it was also Ari Behn (who is heavily into all kinds of popular culture, last Saturday night's state channel TV entertainment included him trying to communicate with his dead grandfather in the spiritualist community of Lily Dale, New York and earlier we've seen him visiting British "travellers" (i.e. indigenous Gypsies), it was him being a fan of Bankhead that led to his daughter being named Emma Tallulah.
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Of course you are correct, FP. I got ahead of myself. Tallulah Bankhead was from Alabama, where her family- the Bankheads, were an old line political family. I doubt very much they have anything to do with this, however.
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Of course you are correct, FP. I got ahead of myself. Tallulah Bankhead was from Alabama, where her family- the Bankheads, were an old line political family. I doubt very much they have anything to do with this, however.
Tallulah Bankhead was named after her paternal grandmother Tallulah James Brockman, who was the daughter of a planter in Greenville County in northwestern South Carolina, not far from Tallulah Falls in northeastern Georgia. NW SC and NE GA was exactly the home turf of the Creek Indian Oconee people, in whose language talula means "town". BTW also an interesting coïncidence that the Tallulah River is a tributary of the Savannah River.
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I've always seen a slight likeness between Tallulah Bankhead and Princess Margaret,just to tie this into the royal family.Not physical but in their personalities.Slightly typsy and flirty and the heavy smoking.Miss Bankheads' last acting role was in the 1960s' Batman tv show.Dressed in black Balenciaga she addressed the main characters as Bat darl and Robin-the little boy wonder.Her second to last film Die!Die!My Darlng is currently the topic of a Broadway play in New York.Looped.On her deathbed her last words were 'Codeine,bourbon'
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What a cute little baby she is;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1380619/One-DOES-family-commitments-know.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1380619/One-DOES-family-commitments-know.html)
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Such a sweetie...I think there might be a little resemblance in the mouth and nose to Queen E. II childhood photos but its too early to say that for sure...
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Does anyone know of any information about the wedding this weekend? Not much news coming out about it even though it is classified as a private family affair.
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Does anyone know of any information about the wedding this weekend? Not much news coming out about it even though it is classified as a private family affair.
Majesty Magazine state the church as Canongate Kirk in Edinburgh.
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The press have reported that the couple will host a cocktail party on Friday evening aboard the former Royal Yacht Britannia, before marrying at Canongate Kirk on the Royal Mile the following day. The Queen and Duke are believed to have been invited, but it isn't known yet if they will attend.
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Does anyone know of any information about the wedding this weekend? Not much news coming out about it even though it is classified as a private family affair.
If you believe stories going around in the media, Zara Phillips didn't intend her wedding to be a private family affair at all...she wanted to sell the photos to a magazine for a huge sum but was told "no" - supposedly by her grandmother. :/
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lol for some reason i wouldn't utterly doubt that rumour :)
no apparently it'll be live coverage of everyone arriving and leaving etc but not actually IN the church during the service. they just arrived at britannia for the pre wedding party, as kate and william arrived the news guy said "and heres princess kate and the earl of wessex" wow, these guys are just great at their job :)
both sets of parents were there i think but no sign of Queen and phillip, maybe not in the raving mood ;)
i'm so annoyed, i went outside and when i got back my mum was like "you missed them all arriving." great, thanks for calling me in. nobody has a news link do they?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2020229/Zara-Phillips-Mike-Tindall-met-cheering-crowds-arrive-rehearsal-ahead-tomorrows-royal-wedding.html
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thanks so much exactly what i was looking for! less than 2 hours to go!!!!
yeh it just said on the news that apparently the queen wouldn't allow zara to sell wedding photos to a magazine like peter did although she wanted to......
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I´ve been trying to work out who was the last granddaugter of a reigning sovereign to marry in their grandmother´s lifetime???
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Edinburgh today:
http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=30-07-2011%20Edinburgh
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I´ve been trying to work out who was the last granddaugter of a reigning sovereign to marry in their grandmother´s lifetime???
Darius, Princess Maud of Wales & Princess Alexandra of Edinburgh both married in 1896. I had a quick look and coudn't see any others after that!
Of course Queen Victorias grand daughter Princess Feodora married a year later in 1897, which is an interesting thought! :)
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Edinburgh today:
http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=30-07-2011%20Edinburgh
courtesy ppe
Courtesy de Mademoiselle Huguette du Canada:
http://bijoussimo.centerblog.net/115-zara-pillips
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Zara looked stunning!! I knew she would. I thought Princess Anne looked very nice too, though I would have preffered a full blown hat!
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I loved how the Earl and Countess of Wessex looked, especially how they were friendly and gave long waves to the crowds.
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God thats a lovely photo, can't wait to see official photos. thought beatrice and eugenie looked a lot better than at the last wedding :)
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I agree the Countess of Wessex looked really lovely and Lady Sarah Chatto looked stunning, as usual!
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Princess Anne
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I liked the blue on Beatrice
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Eugenie dresses like a 30years old
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Countess Sophie
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Lady Sarah Chatto, my favourite, too.
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The Duchess of Cambridge with her pringles hat and her Camilla coat. Again a wrong-age-dress victim.
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Autumn Phillips
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The Duchess of Cornwall. Nice coat, but what´s with the meadow?
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Not a fan of her dress, but she was radiant and so happy :)
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Larger photos
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/189727/20110730/zara-phillips-wedding-photos.htm
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Peter Phillips and his wife, Autumn are expecting their 2nd child in March 2012.
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To all who may know the answer I welcome your knowledge and comments concerning Zara & Peter Phillips son and daughter of UK Princess Royal and what is or shows they share the same ancestor genetic bloodline.
I am aware of what the answer is but I welcome all opinions of others. I had some discussion with AP on a matter of my first posting concerning Czar Nicholas and his son Alexi there lies the answer if one may be interested.
As this is the Romanov Russian and Royalty Discussion Forum, the subject matter may be of interest.
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I'm interested in this! How would Zara and Peter Phillips be closer to the bloodline of Tsar Nicholas than any of their royal cousins - Princes William & Harry, or Princesses Beatrice & Eugenie?
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I would imagine that all the first cousins you mention (William, Harry, Beatrice, Eugenie, Zara and Peter) are equally related to Nicholas and Alexei. Unless any of their parents (Mark Phillips, Diana Spencer, or Sarah Ferguson) were somehow closer related to Nicholas and Alexei. I doubt that.
Through Prince Philip (their grandfather): William (and the rest of his first cousins) are 1st cousins 3x removed to Alexei (their common ancestor being Princess Alice - daughter of Queen Victoria and mother of Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven and the Empress Alexandra).
Through Elizabeth II (their grandmother): William (and the rest of his first cousins) are 1st cousins 4x removed to Nicholas II, and 2nd cousins 3x removed to Alexei (their common ancestor being Christian IX of Denmark - father of Queen Alexandra and Empress Marie).
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Well, through watching the Biography of Anastasia (You know, the one with 2/3 about Anastasia, the rest about Anna Anderson? Yeah, that one. ;)) it said that when testing Anna Anderson's blood/DNA sample they used Prince Philip to match it. So I know that Prince Philip is at least related to them, and any of his offspring would also be related to them. (Wouldn't they? Or has the world drastically changed in the last 5 minutes?) :)
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The reason Prince Philip's blood was used to compare to Empress Alexandra and her children is because he shares the same mitochondrial DNA with them (i.e. DNA that is passed on unchanged down the female line). Philip's maternal grandmother (Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven) and Empress Alexandra were sisters, thus having the same mitochondrial DNA as passed to them from their mother, Princess Alice. Of course, Alexandra's children also had the same mitochondrial DNA as she did.
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A question was asked by a member why William and Harry and their two female cousins did not inherit the same ancestor genetic visible markers as Peter and Zara Phillips. The answer is William and Harry both inherited the same visible markers as Peter and Zara and that of Nicholas 11and his son Alexi. The two daughters of the Prince dont appear to have shared the same gene probably because their genetic make up leans more to their mothers side, but like all new Born's they share both parents genes but one side may be a more dormant gene.
In my case I was not born in a royal house but I share the same ancestor gene and inherited visible DNA markers/markings as Nicholas by means of my mother German ancestors who inhereietd the same ancestors genes.
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I'm no scientist but I do know that's not how DNA works. And...ANOTHER relative of Nicholas II on this forum? Incredible!
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HM Queen Elizabeth has become a great-grandmother again as her second great-grandchild was born last night.
Autumn Phillpis,wife of Peter,gave birth to her second daughter.The full name of the wee girl are Isla Elizabeth Phillips.
The couple already has a daughter,Savannah.
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Isla Phillips is the most recent royal with a Canadian connection - Both Autumn Phillips and the Countess of St. Andrews were born in Canada and King Edward VIII owned a ranch in Alberta
http://www.royalhistorian.com/queen-elizabeth-iis-second-great-grandchild-isla-elizabeth-phillips-born-march-29-2012-canadians-in-the-royal-family/
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Congratulations to both Peter and Autumn as well as Princss Anne and the Queen and Duke!
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Coongrats to Peter and Autumn! Isla is a lovely name too.
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So was she born at Gatcombe, its said on the news Gloustershire?
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Gloucester Royal Hospital I think.
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Gloucester Royal Hospital I think.
Sounds familiar... ;D
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Heh heh.......
Nice shiny new Womens' Centre open there since January 20011. Savannah was born in the old (very old...shudders) unit just prior to the move.
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Hi guys,
Did anyone watch Zara perform dressage at the Olympics? She rode beautifully, although her horse at one stage went from canter into a bit of a gallop lucky she regined him in :)
Princess Anne and Prince Phillip were there in the crowd cheering her on :)
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Anne and Prince Phillip cheering Zara on :)
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The cross-country starts this afternoon at 1230 UK time. Currently, the British team are in third place - and they usually do better on cross-country than dressage!
Ann
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British team lying second to Germany after the cross-country, with Zara eighth individually.
Ann
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The Olympic career of Zara Phillips marks 100 years of royal participation in Olympic equestrian events
http://www.royalhistorian.com/zara-phillips-and-100-years-of-royal-athletes-in-the-olympic-equestrian-events/
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Thanks for that Suzanne :D
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Congratulations to Zara for winning a silver medal along with her teammates on Team Britain.
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Congrats to Zara and the rest of the GB Equestrian team on winning a Silver medal. Well deserved!
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Congrats to Zara on her medal.
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It was announced this morning by Buckingham Palace that Zara and Mike are to become parents in the new year! Congrats!
http://www.royal.gov.uk/LatestNewsandDiary/Pressreleases/2013/ZaraTindallpregnancyannouncement8July2013.aspx (http://www.royal.gov.uk/LatestNewsandDiary/Pressreleases/2013/ZaraTindallpregnancyannouncement8July2013.aspx)
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That's wonderful news!
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I was thinking just the other day that Mr and Mrs Tindall had been very quiet recently, and was actually wondering whether their marriage was in trouble.
But it looks as though all is well.
Ann
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A fourth great-grandchild for HM and the Duke of Edinburgh. Congrats! These last 2 years, save for the Duke's health issues, have been pretty wonderful for the family.
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A spokesperson said she's intends to continue horse riding continue while pregnant. I thought it was dangerous for pregnant women to horse ride?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/10166725/Zara-Phillips-to-carry-on-riding-while-pregnant-spokesman-says.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/10166725/Zara-Phillips-to-carry-on-riding-while-pregnant-spokesman-says.html)
A fourth great-grandchild for HM and the Duke of Edinburgh. Congrats! These last 2 years, save for the Duke's health issues, have been pretty wonderful for the family.
Exactly what I was thinking. Bar the Duke's health at times, an excellent couple of years for the royals: Will and Kate's wedding, Diamond Jubilee, Zara and Mike's wedding, The Queen and Duke becoming Great Grandparents to Isla and Savannah, Baby Cambridge due in a few days and now Baby Tindall!
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It is generally considered unsafe to continue riding while pregnant--at least after the first trimester. From 2 different ob/gyn sites:
" But after 12 weeks, no riding. That's because by this time, the fetus has moved up above the pelvic girdle, a bony structure protects the baby during the first trimester, and now all that sits between the baby and any external force is skin and muscle. If you get kicked or are thrown off the horse at this point, you've got nothing protecting the baby from trauma. Even experienced riders get thrown off; that's part of the game."
And "The general consensus is that horseback riding is unsafe during pregnancy. Falling or being thrown from the horse is one danger for you and your baby. But even more important is the jostling motion of horseback riding. Unless you're riding at a very slow walk, that motion creates a risk of placental abruption – a serious pregnancy complication in which the placenta separates from the uterus. If a pregnant woman falls or is in a low-speed car collision, we monitor her for signs of placental abruption. I would equate this with the kind and level of sheer force you could be subjected to on horseback."
Certainly women have ridden, even competed, while pregnant with no adverse effects but I think it's remarkably foolish, and rather selfish, no matter how devoted you are to your riding. Your primary concern when pregnant should be the unborn child--pregnancy doesn't last that long in the scheme of things. I hope she doesn't continue on considering she's already taken one fall while pregnant.
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So happy for them! And, I agree 100% with what grandduchessella said above.
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Ah, thanks for explaining, Ella. She's apparently entered into three more events, and she's around 3 months pregnant I think.
Another article.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2358171/Zara-Phillips-Mike-Tindall-expecting-baby-New-Year-Buckingham-Palace-says.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2358171/Zara-Phillips-Mike-Tindall-expecting-baby-New-Year-Buckingham-Palace-says.html)
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Just heard that Zara has had a baby girl. Dad was present at the birth which took place at Gloucester Royal Hospital ( I used to work there!! for my sins).
No name as yet but the baby weighed in at 7 lb 12 oz.
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Well congrats to the couple on their new baby and to Her Majesty on another great grand child!
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Mike and Zara are going to make awesome parents. So happy for them. Well done, Zara!
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One report said that she had expressed a liking for the name Poppy if it was a girl so...Poppy Tyndall? :) Mike did say on Twitter that he hoped she didn't inherit his nose. LOL
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Well that can be understood, lol! Poppy Tyndall is an interesting name. I must confess, however, that I'm still not quite used to running across individuals with royal backgrounds with names like Zara, so Poppy would be weird for me as well. Imagine if she was born a princess and they named her Poppy. Princess Poppy...
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I understand what you're saying; however, I love the idea of Zara naming her daughter Poppy. It's truly lovely, and it would suit Zara's personality. I hope she does. :)
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I think Poppy would be a pretty name as well. Yes, it would sound odd if she was a Princess but since she's just a Miss, I think it would be a lovely name.
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I was thrilled to read the lovely news, they will be great parents.
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I understand what you're saying; however, I love the idea of Zara naming her daughter Poppy. It's truly lovely, and it would suit Zara's personality. I hope she does. :)
It does sound like a name Zara would choose! I rather like the sound of Poppy Tindall, it sounds old-fashioned and, at the same time very modern and cool. :)
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And she was back at home 6 hours after giving birth! Whew. Though, there were times with my kids I didn't feel that I, or they, needed to stay and bugged out of there as soon as the mandatory 24 hrs was up. But still, glad she and the baby felt so well.
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That sounds so odd to me. The only people I know that have had a baby had to stay for at least two days.
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They probably wanted to avoid photographers once the news got out. It's the Queen's granddaughter...she's hardly going to be left without help at home should she need it...medical or otherwise.
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That sounds so odd to me. The only people I know that have had a baby had to stay for at least two days.
A bit off topic I know but......
Not odd at all. Normal delivery, a check over for mum and baby and then home straight from the delivery room. Even mums who have a c/s go home 24 hours post op over here.
Community midwives used to home visit post natally on a daily basis up to and including day 10 but these days its more likely to be one or two visits only ( for the hoi polloi :-) ). No wonder the breast feeding rates are so rubbish in the UK.
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Apparently she is Mia Grace Tindall. Very nice too.
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It is a very beautiful and lovely name. I'm trilled!
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Very nice indeed. I still have a soft spot for Poppy though. LOL But it's a lovely name.
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Me too, Ella! :)
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Mia Grace... A little common for my personal taste, but a very, very lovely name.
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She is very cute.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2566649/Zara-Phillips-Mike-Tindall-introduce-baby-Mia-world-cover-Hello-magazine.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2566649/Zara-Phillips-Mike-Tindall-introduce-baby-Mia-world-cover-Hello-magazine.html)
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There is a decided lack of dignity in doing a deal with Hello magazine.
It's not as though Mr and Mrs Tindall are badly off.
Ann
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I agree with you!!!!
Amelia
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Didn't this happen with Princess Beatrice as well? Also I think there was once a deal for Peter's wedding photos. And the 'lesser' members of the family like Freddie Windsor have done covers and all.
**edited to Add--Ah, going to read the story they mention Phillip and Freddie as well. LOL**
I don't mind it so much--Zara and Mike are public figures (both due to connections and their sporting achievements) without being royal. They have no titles or formal responsibilities and take no money from the public. If they choose to go this way, I don't see a problem with it as they are more celebrity than royal. JMO
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But it's that uncomfortable and ever increasing royals/celebrity connection which is only reinforced by such deals and makes the public resentful about them cashing in, in my view. It would have perhaps been acceptable had they donated their fee to charity but there is no mention of that.
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There is no mention of the baby on the official monarchy site!
Imagine if the 16th in the line for the Russian throne in the days of the Romanovs (e.g. one of the Konstantinovichi princes) had been presented to the public in a similarly privatized fashion!
*Fanning myself and ducking for the revolution!* Because you don't want a revolutionary Mia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr0wpcGd150) in polite society!
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Didn't this happen with Princess Beatrice as well? Also I think there was once a deal for Peter's wedding photos. And the 'lesser' members of the family like Freddie Windsor have done covers and all.
**edited to Add--Ah, going to read the story they mention Phillip and Freddie as well. LOL**
I don't mind it so much--Zara and Mike are public figures (both due to connections and their sporting achievements) without being royal. They have no titles or formal responsibilities and take no money from the public. If they choose to go this way, I don't see a problem with it as they are more celebrity than royal. JMO
Agreed. Although, it would have been nice if they had donated any monies collected to charity. As Ann said, "They are not badly off." Between trust fund(s) and Zara's endorsement deals, those two should be set for life.
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Congrats to the new parents.
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Would love to see pics of the grandparents with the grand children. I'm yet to see even one of Princess Ann as a grandmother.