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Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty => The Wittlesbachs => Topic started by: Marc on March 15, 2007, 08:54:50 AM

Title: Who is Violante of Neuburg/Thurn und Taxis?
Post by: Marc on March 15, 2007, 08:54:50 AM
Hi,can anyone tell me something about third wife of Elector Karl III Philipp von Pfalz.She was Violante Marie Therese von Thurn und Taxis(1683-1734)!She was created Fürstin in 1733...Everything would be ok,but I just can't find her parents or any mention from which branch of the Thurn und Taxis she came from!If you search her ancestry in genealogy sites you will find NOTHING,that's why I am interested to find any information about her or her parents!
Title: Re: Who is Violante of Neuburg/Thurn und Taxis?
Post by: Yseult on March 15, 2007, 07:45:27 PM
Of course, Marc!

Baron Johann Baptista von Thurn und Taxis, imperial postmaster of Augsburg, Strassburg and Neuburg, married baroness Aloysia von Lösch in 1640. The couple had at least nine children. One of them was Philip Wilhelm Konstantin, married in 1677 with countess Maria Adelheid von Aham.

Maria Adelheid borne her husband twelve children. One of them was Maria Violanta Theresia, born in Munich, 1683. When she was forty five years old, she married, morganatically, Karl III Philipp. He was the widow of both Ludwika Radziwill and Katharina Lubomirska.
Title: Re: Who is Violante of Neuburg/Thurn und Taxis?
Post by: Marc on March 17, 2007, 05:34:11 PM
Thank Yseult,Didn't know that.So,she was Baroness von Thurn und Taxis?The same family as the Princely line?Could you share with us where did you find her ancestors and all informations abou her since there really isn't any mention of this branch of the family online...There are some othet Thurn lines but not this one...
Title: Re: Who is Violante of Neuburg/Thurn und Taxis?
Post by: Yseult on March 18, 2007, 01:56:05 PM
Marc, I was searching in genealogy.euweb, one of the better sites about genealogies. In "Wittelsbach 4" you´ll find Karl III Philipp von der Paflz, with his three wives. The name of Violante is marked in red, in you click in the name you´ll find her full genealogy.

Title: Re: Who is Violante of Neuburg/Thurn und Taxis?
Post by: Marc on March 18, 2007, 04:11:22 PM
Thank you Yseult...I know the site,but I just didn't see what was obvious  :o thank you!  :)
Title: Re: Who is Violante of Neuburg/Thurn und Taxis?
Post by: Yseult on March 18, 2007, 05:14:49 PM
Thank you Yseult...I know the site,but I just didn't see what was obvious  :o thank you!  :)

You´re welcome.
 ;)
Title: Re: Who is Violante of Neuburg/Thurn und Taxis?
Post by: Rebecca on March 18, 2007, 06:12:12 PM
I think it has as of yet not been possible to establish exactly how Violante Marie's line was connected to the main Thurn und Taxis line.  :-\
Title: Re: Who is Violante of Neuburg/Thurn und Taxis?
Post by: Marc on March 04, 2019, 10:00:50 AM
I think it has as of yet not been possible to establish exactly how Violante Marie's line was connected to the main Thurn und Taxis line.  :-\

They were very distantly related in male line. Both Violante and Princely line descended from Rugerius Delaytus de Tazzo(died in 1333). Princely line descended from his son Benedictus, while Violante and her family descended from his brother Paxius.

P.S. This is not certain connection, because I combined few genealogy sites to come to this.